Yowan Byghan - Cornwall is a Nation
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- Опубліковано 22 лис 2014
- Yowan Byghan states in the video that Cornwall is a nation and should be remembered as such, on the second day of the the 80th Scottish National Party Annual General Conference, 14th to 15th November 2014
Cornwall is a nation it should be regarded as this I say this as a proud Cornishman
LOL
@ᚐᚇᚆᚐᚋᚆ ᚋᚐᚉ ᚉᚑᚅᚉᚆᚒᚔᚏ yeah alright mate whatever you say!
I'm from Ireland. There's not much that I can do, but I will say that Cornwall is a country in it's own right.
I love England, but I still believe in the history of Cornwall.
John
piss off he can say what he wants@msmissy6888
"Cornwall is a nation. I know that. Cornwall is perceived by many people in Scotland exactly the same way is it perceive by many people in England, as a shire. Cornwall is not a shire, it is a nation!"
AMAZING BY YOWAN! Us Irish here agree with you! The Celtic League shall and will be free!
Galiza is a celt and corwall nation
It is, you are so right. I don't even know how you are always missed off.
David O Brien absolutely
David O Brien I’m Irish to I agree we got independence ages ago now Scotland and Wales need to leave the uk and Cornwall to become a nation
Didn't know there existed one person who represents the opinions of all Irish people.
I am from far west Cornwall,Penzance,St Just and Pendeen and was taught lots of cornish when I was a child not sentences but words and phrases.
I'm from pendeen too!
Yowan Byghan and his compatriots are right, of course, Cornwall is a nation, it is not a shire.
Cornwall is the poorest county in the UK. Westminster have abandoned them. They have their own identity and they should be given the same status as Wales and Scotland.
Country
OK
So should Yorkshire
Cornish people's ethnic status is already recognized. It's the politics that drags its heels.
Why 5? There are 6 Celtic nations. Scotland, Ireland, Wales, Isle of Mann, Brittany and Cornwall.
Then it would be 3.
Ah, now I get it.
No where is Galicia and Wallonia?
Ro Man
Would love if all of those go independent
@@jeanmichel4699 Neither are really Celtic, certainly not Wallonia.
I just love the Cornish and I will always think of Cornwall with such love and affection... The Cornish are so friendly and have always been great hosts each time I've been in Cornwall !
So youre a visitor then
@@oddities-whatnot aint we all
Means a lot, glad you enjoy Cornwall!
Im english but have celtic ancestry and i believe cornwall should be independent
Joseph Stalin Cornwall would be fucked if it was independent. Independence comes at a huge cost, and Cornwall wouldn't be able to afford that cost. Independace is only as good as your income per capita, and cornwalls is very low.
@@jamiejohnston8739 That's what the English have told us, anyway. :)
Beth Carey the English have told you that because it’s a fact.
@@chazbaz4519 at least we have our pasties
@@bethcarey144 19th century romanticism
Very moving , the character of Cornwall is strong no matter how much it is not recognized by certain others
support from the Isle of Man!
Support from a native canadian, ( Ojibwe ) too long have the english taken the road tried by their roman oppressors and inflicted the same thing o to other nations
@@darthanddedeu2580 so true
@@ManxMotorcyclesPack of lies
When Wales wake up we'll support you too
Why should it be a nation?
@@bosnia7429 It already is a nation, that's not debatable.
Beth Carey It’s a county, that’s not debatable
@@bosnia7429 It's a duchy, Not a county, there is no legal documents saying Cornwall is a county of england, The Cornish are proud, And we are now a people the same as the Scots irish and welsh, National minority status
Josh Hitch ah yes I’m from Lancashire therefore I’m not English stfu
He sounds more English than me!
Us Celts need to stand together, Cornwall is a country
unite the Celtic nations
Why the Celtic nations are safe and amazing!!!!!!!!!! I'm kind of confuse about this. the Celtic Nations have enough food water and other things so stop with all of this nonsense.
er nope they really don't.
Why do you keep banging on about celts, what about poor Anglo Saxons in Yorkshire and hard working saxon farmers in Herefordshire, are you racist?
WelshNoble Yeah but if it was to become independent it would have very little chance of survival similar if not worse to a independent Wales.
KERNOW DA VIKEN!!!!!!!!!!!
Penlee lifeboat, The bravest men on earth and Cornish :-)
The 5 celtic nations need to be independent sending my support to Cornwall, Wales, England, and Ireland, we should all be independent and run our own affairs 🏴
Isle of Man and Brittany too lad
You are so deluded, it's a comedy.
Very articulate Yowan! Up An Gof!
you just can't take anyone is a Che Guevara shirt seriously.
Would be great if Cornwall could get its independence as well.
I was reading about the lost of the Scottish Independence referendum in a hostile source the World Socialist Web Site,which has a rather Whiggish take to their "Marxist" economic history. Yes English capitalism and Scottish Whigs created an industrial proletariat,in the process my ancestors were driven off the land and across the sea.
Kernow Bys Vyken!
bydh kosel, ken
I think its quite quaint, and like these nationalistic regions, they add a lot of additional appeal for tourists, one that places like Shropshire don't have.
Hi grasp of Elvish is phenomenal.
Absolutely correct, Kernow is a nation, and the 1st Celtic nation and needs to be recognised as such,
@James F saxon? Ego??... If you want to work together I suggest you don't speak c rap.
The only Celtic nation to advance into England as far as London (1497). Cornish people are awesome.
Perhaps Cornwall should join Éire the only free and republic country of the celtic nations.
As Cornishman I think we should be independent from England and we should have a president, a navy a army a airforce...hell even a space program and also we should start trade talks with Russia and Saudi Arabia...
yes I'm joking.
Or they could simply join the EEA with a view to joining the EU. Have a small homeland defence force and cooperate with the UN. Pretty sure Cornish Fisheries. Tourism and Renewables would be enough to make Cornwall viable.
John Binnie We are happy being apart of Britain, we left the EU for a reason.
@@outtour2525
It's up to them. No deal, Bojos herd immunity ploy and dismal economic plan may have changed a few minds.
I like cornwall but it being part of the UK just causes high house prices, tourist homes and low investment.
With stronger local governance it could address some of these issues and realise its potential. It needs a proper upgrade to the power link feeding into the grid for starters.
John Binnie as I have worked as a fisherman and seen what they go through with the EU, I rather keep our own water. Any road if old commie corbyn got in by now we would be in a utopia similar to mad max.
@@outtour2525
I agree. That's why Independence makes more sense. Not tied to the limited selection of two bit politicians. I'm Scottish. Scotland's fisheries are larger than the UK market so maybe a bit of a different dynamic on this front but the principle is the same. Cornwall would be like the lichtenstein of Britain if it got independence. Look at the Isle of Man. It's wealthy.
Why has he got a 'Remember Che", Che Guevara teeshirt on? It is hardly relevent, Che was a left-wing revolutionary similar to and close to Fidel Castro.
Please look at that once again. It's a "Rabbie Burns like a Che" T-shirt
He was a mass murderer, plain and simple. Bit like the SNP I suppose so it fits on that stage.
Padraig Pearse disagrees
support this man help make Cornwall independent unite the Celtic nations
six nations are we all Celtic and free
Wot about Iceland, Norway, Sweden, Finland, Germany, Anglia and Denmark?
Anglia isn't a country - do you mean England? All the countries you listed aren't Celtic.
no way we be in deep shit if we go indepentdent dont listen to the moaning scotts
That is where the Anglos (Denmark and Holland) and the Saxons (Germany) and vikings (Norway, Sweden, Iceland and Finland) came from with their lovely Anglo Saxon English, but not Celtic, culture. Rising Sun, you've sort of missed the point. Those countries mentioned are the ENGLISH. They arrived after the Romans. And the people here already, who celebrated and worked a Celtic life, became minorities as soon as the Romans left and those people arrived. It is the minorities here, who are arguing to be allowed to avoid continued assimilation. The people you have noted are the English assimilators.
@@aragornthebrave Niether are you. But you're welcome to your fanciful notions.
Apart from the che shirt this is great!
Its not a Che Guevara shirt its a Rabbie Burns as Che Guevara shirt.
Che is a folk hero. So is Burns.
So where did the Celts originate from
Rich H Ireland where I come from
So therefore they must have invaded from Europe, Bloody foreigners.
Rich H Austria.The celts didn't build Stonehenge and a lot of the monuments in Europe,they just moved into those areas.the Celts gradually were pushed out of mainland Europe into Ireland and Great Britain,then were pushed further by the Germanic tribes invading,and some then went and invaded and colonized Brittany,leading to the modern 6 Celtic nations.
Central Europe
Celtwall
I'm a Canadian of Cornish & Scottish ancestry. If you guys care so much about preserving your culture and heritage then why do you guys elect politicians who preach mass migration into Britain, and why aren't you guys putting forth policies to increase your birth rate?
Because in Wales, Scotland and Cornwall we recognise the advantages migrants bring to our countries without being afraid of far right propaganda.
@The505Guys You' re quite an ugly person, aren't you? I have lived for nearly all my life in ethnically diverse, vibrant, cosmopolitan cities such as London. It is what makes them so successful. Bigotry, on the other hand, as you yourself demonstrate so clearly, is something to avoid.
Strangely enough I agree with you on one point - local patriotism and pride in your own history (as in Scotland and Cornwall in this case) is not inconsistent with globalism. Globalism is having a very bad press at the moment, but ultimately international co-operation is the only thing that is going to save this planet and all the humans who live upon it. (And I really don't care if you or anyone else is 96.02% white, brown or sky-blue pink - in the end it's all one.)
Mind you, globalist capitalism probably deserves all the bad press it can get - although it usually doesn't. But then I would say that, wouldn't I? Being the lefty, pinko person that I am. You know, caring about the environment, and people, and animals and all that rubbish stuff. Meanwhile, please stay out of Scotland, Cornwall or anywhere else where people actually care about their fellow human beings. :)
@The505Guys Thank you for your considered, and considerate, reply. There are some things we can certainly agree on, especially how UA-cam is very good at bringing out the worst in people. And you're quite right: I did start (and end, come to that) with an insult, for which I apologise. I was hoping to provoke a reply and to that extent at least I succeeded. And perhaps you might acknowledge that I was responding to a post which was itself rather aggressive in its tone.
Another thing which we can agree on is that the "success' of cities such as London depends upon them being "financial centres for the elite and their financial interests". That is why I made the remark I did about global capitalism. But that was not the kind of success I was referring to. I was referring to the cultural vitality of London and that was due to the a specific combination of factors - its history, its ethnic and linguistic diversity, its very vitality. I lived in Hackney for many years, decades before it became "woke" in a hipsterish way, although perhaps I could be thought of as a hint of what was to come. No, the Hackney I was a part of was still predominately working-class cockney. Many of those cockneys were in fact second and third generation Jews who had moved up from Whitechapel and their London slang was peppered with Yiddish. (Harold Pinter and Stephen Berkoff had already left, but that was their cradle.) But there was already, and had been for years, a large proportion of West Indians who were part of that community. And an equally large number of Bengalis and Punjabis and others from the sub-continent, some of whom had already settled in Spitalfields, which in earlier times had been the home for Flemish weavers and Huguenot refugees. . And, as always, Italians, Greeks, Australians, Irish, Chinese - you name it, they were there: and they all were contributing, in their different ways, to the economic and political mix. And in doing so, they were also creating a cultural and artistic environment of great richness.
You mention Officer Chauvin and his kneeling on a man's head for ten minutes until he was dead. And, yes, it could be that this was simply the action of one sadistic person, who just happened to be white, deciding to torture, in public, another man, who in this case just happened to be black. But you must know as well as everyone else that this was not just a matter of random possibilities: this was but one event in a systematic entrenchment of racial profiling and abuse by police authorities around the world. It has been allowed to continue, and encouraged, for decades - for ever, in fact, in the case of the United States. And not only in the US. I remember, whilst still at school and self-consciously a 'lefty' as a few of us were at the time, being told by this chap who had left school a year earlier, had joined the police in West London and who was big-noting himself for no obvious reason, how he and others at the station liked to "beat up the nigs" in the alley ways at night. We, nice middle class suburban lads as we were, were shocked - and even allowing for the fact that he might have been exaggerating, which we wanted to believe, the fact that he thought he was impressing us at all was cause for great concern. Since then, decades ago now, the reputation of the Met has steadily worsened.
I am very glad to hear that caring for the environment is not a preserve of the left. Neither should it be. But it can hardly have escaped anybody's notice that virtually all the deniers of climate change are from the right side of politics, from the President of the United States downwards. (Or upwards, perhaps!) The apologists for the polluters and for those who would lay this planet to waste are all almost exclusively (apart from the odd dinosaur from the righthand side of the union movement) to be found in the rightwing media. Check it out if you don't believe me. I feel the Left should be campaigning a lot more on this issue than they do as it happens, but they have been successfully blindsided by those in control of our media. That includes the BBC, incidentally.
gleefully
That stray word 'gleefully' for some reason is the only word that remained from my final paragraph, which for some reason inexplicably, though perhaps appropriately, turned red. I think it was telling me that I had gone on for too long and it was probably right.
What I think I said was along the lines that we seemed to be in agreement about what should constitute a genuine (and benign) local patriotism.
And my use of the word 'bigotry' to answer your question was probably the same as your use of the word 'bigot', which I take it was a reference to its use by Gordon Brown and which was gleefully (there's that word again!) seized upon by Mr Murdoch and his acolytes in the right-wing media.
Enough already and please excuse the odd typo in the screed above. Nice talking to you.
Kernow!
first of ALL KRUT CHARLY BOY NEEDS TO GET HIS NATZI MEITS OF CORNISH PEOPLES MONEY PRONTO
Me parece increible que considereis que el gallego no es un idioma celta porque es romance ,cuando vuestros idiomas son de origen germanico,galiza is celta ,galiza is country celt ,galicia is very good ,galicia foreber ,e o que non o vexa que se vaia a tomar vento porque non sabedes o que e ser celta non o vivides ,we invasioned irland
Me parece un vergueneza total. Hasta Wallonia en Belgica que quiere decir Galicia (Wal=Gal=Celtic) Pero no, hay que hablar inglés. Es los celos por ser españoles y francofonos de los ingleses. Esos Saxones que ni siquiera son celtas, son germanos.
You are right it is Celtic nation occupied by Germanic engels
Genealogy is a bit more complicated than that mate.
a person with an Arabic name having the nerve to talk about occupying. Sounds like you could do with picking up a book and reading about the Arab empire......trust me.... they never asked "nicely" before taking over the countries they did.
@@doberman2yk it's stupid when Arabs call England the occupiers of Britain. While Arabs occupy the Copts, Berbers and Nubians.
@@noahtylerpritchett2682 absolutely. Arabs took in black slaves long before the Europeans got involved in anything yet they seem to get a complete free pass in both social and main stream media.
@@doberman2yk yes its dumb. I don't hate Arabs but at least I'm not a goddamn hypocrite.
Whatever sin Europeans are accused of, witness how Assyrians, Aramaeans, Phoenicians, Jews, Egyptians or Berbers were treated.
At least we have our lovely pasties
:D
I'd vote for a free Scotland if I could. But I would not vote for the EU.
Tell us why.
@@alanbbrady8196 Are "Us" in the room with me and you right now?
Cernyw am byth
I hope; "The [very]_Celtic: LEAGUE/COUNTRIES"; Will: "get behind/support: _ -Celtic, F.C.!!"??
:-)
This is what Pictish probably sounded like.
Pictish wasn't related to P-Celtic language branch, other than reconstructed nonsense theres no evidence
Yowan Byghan's tone sounds a bit "nationalistic", seems a little "intolerant", Cornwall needs to "COEXIST" with the rest of Britain!
Sussex was a nation. So was Kent, etc. Get a grip and grow up. Times change
I do notest a difference in the atmosphere their, the people the landscape, and much more. Go to the cost you will find surf dudes child as hell eating party's then you have the amazing herber towns. The question you have to ask yourself is how many places in Britain are different to your County or Scotland or Wales. If we went on this pretense that each County deserves their independence based on individuality we would soon have a fractured nation. Yes I could see Cornwall being it's a nation as it is very different to the rest of Britain. I respect that they want independence but the question they got to ask themselves is how economically sustainable is this going to be 4 Cornwall and also is there any point Plus the most population are probably beyond the age of the people that are traditionalists rooted in nationalism so ask any person beyond the paradigm of a traditionalist they would probably tell you that Cornwall is not a nation and it is a good idea to stay in the British Kingdom done
Well done. Speaking good sense here.
Cornwall could be its own nation within the UK so we would have Scotland, Wales, Northern Ireland, England AND Cornwall. That way, there's no need to worry about economics or dividing anything
Darzona, forever Kernow
How far in history do you want to go back? Independence for Wessex , Mercia or Northumberland or Cumbria Essex and Kent ? It just gets silly. Personally before the Roman invasion we were all known as Britons which is exactly what I am today . Proud to be Welsh and British . One island one family of fundamentally the same people .
Nah. Scotland's a different place. And the fact we share an island in immaterial.
Free Northumbria, support the Northern Independence party
Exactly. I'm a Sussexer and Sussex was a sovereign kingdom. These people are ridiculous. They're stuck in the past
No god no god please no no no nooooooooo!
Dream on gandalf
Fuck it why don't lancashire be its own country whilst we're at it.
Lancashire is a shire..?
Go ahead, speak Lancastrian
He sounds about as Cornish as Boris Johnson,he is what George Orwell would describe as a 'transferred nationalist'.
By the way I loved the Che Guervara tee shirt,or should that be 'Tre' Guervara.I bet his real name is Dave Smith.
It's Robert Burns
Ché Guevara t-shirt. Muppet.
It's Robert Burns
They have been part of England for 1000 years its not going to change
Ye the Anglo Saxons!!! Invaders nicked out sacred Island pushed back the Natives made them speak there Germanic Language
@MrNorthernSol Yes well do that to hahah
So, Cornwall was a separate country but then it got conquered.
I never thought a serious political meeting would actually make me cringe. Never in my life this is hilarious.
It's always fun when people are triggered about stuff that happened almost over a 1000 years go like grow a pair and grow up
Galicia and Wallonia is more celtic thant poor scotland...
Cornwall is not a nation except in the minds of a handful of small-minded deluded individuals. There are very few people who speak Cornish and even fewer who want to. As for being neglected, Cornwall has done very well out of Europe. (And the majority voted to leave it - says it all really.)
Because the majority in Cornwall these days are not Cornish but people with money from England. The majority of Cornish I know did not vote to leave Europe.
mikelheron20 it is bloody fool
Jim Thompson yes I agree
Amazing isn't it, the English have been humilated in ever country they have invaded, all they got to hang onto now is little old Cornwall.
Self-loathing EU bootlickers like you are an embarrassment.
no 🇬🇧
yes 🏴
cornwall is part of england and uk get over it
let me ask you are you cornish.if not what right do you have to make an opinion
@@collectorshaven722 I'm Cornish and I am DEFINITELY also ENGLISH. Honestly really? Cornwall isn't a part of England? And you try to justify this by saying we have pasties, clotted cream and scrumpy, oh yes and the tin mines. You know what makes me a bit peeved at your head being stuck in some romantic non-sensical cloud? I'll tell you what makes me angry. I'm Cornish born n bred, but I moved to London when I was 24 worked and studied there for 7 years, moved home again, but then got offered a job in the Peak District (countryside management), met my wife who is Irish, worked there for another 4 years, then worked in Northumberland for 5 years and each and every English county has it's own culture, and traditions, and varying foods and beverages and so on yet no other county yelps on as much as the Cornish about how we're not English. Why? We show along with Northumberland, Devon, Derbyshire, Yorkshire and so on and on and on just how diverse ENGLAND is and I LOVE it. I have three flags: Saint Piran's Flag, St George's Cross, and the Union Jack. I'm proud of them all and twits like you will never change that.
@evansdrad The celtic nationalist er, no it's not. Get over it.
@@collectorshaven722 yes i am cornish whats your fucking problem
Hello everyone I am sorry if I offended you I don't remember making this comment and i don't know why I did it but I believe what I was trying to say was that anyone who isn't Cornish should judge the validity of its independence not to offend those who are cornish.
Cornwall is both a nation and a county of England. The Cornish are English first and Cornish second, or the reverse if you prefer, but they are both - and thus a paradox. Cornwall is not a nascent 'country' in its own right.
Tom Rogers I agree and I'm from cornwall
It's not even a county never was. It was always known as a country way before the Romans came.
I'm Cornish and I am DEFINITELY also ENGLISH. I'm Cornish born n bred, but I moved to London when I was 24 worked and studied there for 7 years, moved home again, but then got offered a job in the Peak District (countryside management), met my wife who is Irish, worked there for another 4 years, then worked in Northumberland for 5 years and each and every English county has it's own culture, and traditions, and varying foods and beverages and so on yet no other county yelps on as much as the Cornish about how we're not English. Why? We show along with Northumberland, Devon, Derbyshire, Yorkshire and so on and on and on just how diverse ENGLAND is and I LOVE it. I have three flags: Saint Piran's Flag, St George's Cross, and the Union Jack. I'm proud of them all.
@@doublebois But then the Romans came and conquered it.
@@StevieLadrough Good for you being proud of all the flags you mention. Cornish people are still a Celtic ethnic minority, though.
Fantasy for larpers, Cornwall is a county in England
Cornwall is poor on GDP if the get Independence the will be poor as hell. I love Cornwall but this is redicolous and stupid. The Cornish ain't nothing without England. I'm American.
They aren't necessarily asking to be an independent nation but at least as a nation within the UK just as Scotland and Wales are recognized as such.
MasiukA well yay but Cornwall is not a country.
The Cornish wish to keep their heritage and culture. They feel that they are a nationhood group. Just like the American Indigenous / originals, they do not want to be assimilated into the overhanging culture. That is not to say that they do not feel part of it. I am Cornish and I have a British Passport, I am from the UK, I am European. Just like an indigenous native to America could say: I am from the United States, but might like to say that they are indigenous people and not: 'from California; or, America'.
If Cornwall kept all the duchy money they would be quite rich
Poorest region in western Europe along with wales. No fucking way they could even get poorer.