Yep, I truly believe someone GONE put a hit on his Life. He knows TO much AND he GONE sing so the song gone be silence. DIDDY should have NEVER EVER NEVER MADE A DEAL WITH THE DEVIL. THE DEVIL DON'T PLAY FAIR EVER.😮😮😮
I wonder if they tested what was in those bottles though? Surely they did. Ij can’t wrap my mind around why you need that many bottles of oil & lube lol 😂😂 🤦♀️
If it was a drake audio, ya would say it's Ai and fake even though diddy has already man handled him even breaking his shoulder, but since its Meek Ai doesn't come up and just off a distored audio its facts 😂.
Most of the information will be funneled through media outlets which are doing an awesome job reporting in this preliminary phase. Federal courts unfortunately don’t allow cameras
All the baby oil jokes really undermine the seriousness of his crimes. People were abused for years. So many victims you can’t even comprehend the things they went through.
We care. I think people are making a joke out of it because he was even more creepy than we thought he was. To find a thousand bottles of baby oil is the most bizarre thing I have ever heard in a true crime case. Also sometimes humor is a way to cope with shock because we still can’t believe all this is happening.
And people have been talking about his abuse of others for years too, and the law enforcement did nothing for many decades. That’s more under-minding than ANY joke could ever do. All this pseudo virtue signaling you’re doing, get a grip.
@@gapeach14Very well sad! To find a thousand bottles of baby oil anywhere but a warehouse is damaging to the brain. Especially under these circumstances.
He must have been a genuius to accrue the money and properties he got. But Sean needs a Johnny Cochran pitbull lawyer. This is such an interesting discussion.
@@Chicago48It doesn't matter who you think you are. Know one Trump's God's word. His word is the ultimate law. " You will reap what you sow, period!!!"
Yeah, but the problem is some ppl get preferred treatment. Matt Gates should be charged. They feds investigating him before Puff. . They all need to be arrested
@maikeruBlackheart Some people want to throw names out, and I have not seen any proof. Stop saying this and that and provide the proof. Jay not sloppy so I can't wait.
No one here is talking about America OR the prosecutor's job. I'm talking about morals and ethics knowing he is guilty. This is not about politics. BUT I have a right of freedom of speech and say what I like. If YOU don't like it, feel free to exit the channel.
Because there is a presumption of innocent that the law provides = everyone is innocent unless proven guilty. What anyone thinks or knows is irrelevant. The only thing relevant is that the prosecution must prove their case beyond reasonable doubt to secure a guilty verdict.
I really don't think he has a choice to "out" certain people. He's dead man walking if he does. Look at Epstein. He couldn't out all his clients. However, Diddy's ego and simple mind nature he most likely wouldn't consider that and name names.
Meek Mill's side looking crazy guilty. Why would Meek's lawyer even agree to make a comment on this knowing how Meek is viewed in this whole diddler saga?
Out of ALL the comments I've read thus far on different forums abt this, YOURS caught me. ❤ I've thought about all his girls since this began. I sincerely hope they're truly in the care of a safe, loving, protecting genuine guardian. Bc their mental health has to be first and foremost. As a mother and grandmother, im really concerned about those girls. SMH... This is a complete travesty. 😔
It must tear Meek Mill up to have his lover behind bars. I believe the intimate relations between Meek and Diddy was consensual. Not that it matters what his sexuality is, but I can't stand a liar or a downlow.
Idk I don’t see diddy capable of being a lover. It was likely transactional in nature. Meek probably is thinking of his own reputation right now and trying to protect it.
He may have been on those tapes. Jaguar said he's worse than Diddy. I think many should know. If it was consenting, they should be fine. Its the ones who didn't consent, were forced and drugged that's more important.
our society appreciates people with material success, to a point that sometimes overlooks they have deep emotional wounds and traumas that get exacerbated when they attain power and influence, and allow them to feel entitled to behave like scum bags. we should never allow those kinds of behavior on us or onto others. Kudos to Casey!!!
@@misutasutanto6312 That’s what I said. He’d have to. His cohorts won’t be sleeping well knowing he’s probably going to snitch. He’s most likely going to get Epsteined.
Ohh yeah i forgot Meek Milly took that Diddy pipe on the regular. This trial is going to be nothing but embarrassing and full of LOLZ. The laughs will be for those tough macho rappers and moguls playing like they're heterosexuals. I cant wait for the trial to begin.
@Danadane4 HAHAAA! 🤣🤣 I remember that. Meek was trying to keep it on the low because Brother Love was blowing him up in front of everyone. I just hope they pull the ringleaders up for trial as well ie Lucien Grange and Clive Davis.
What about the murder of Kim Porter? And will JZ be held accountable for his actions in the past. What About Alyha's mysterious death on the " plane crash " will All of these individuals involved be held accountable?
Off subject but, Usher needs to be charged for handing Justin over to Diddy knowing what was going to happen because he went through it. As far as I'm concerned Usher is responsible for what happened to Justin and needs to pay the price for it period
Download the FREE Upside App at upside.app.link/sidebar to get an extra 25 cents back for every gallon on your first tank of gas.
JZ just as dirty take him down also Beyonce also
Here we see the face of an EVIL FREEEEEKEN !!!👺🪱🪱👹
trafficking arrest? you meant to say he got caught screwing prostitutes? why arent the prostitutes being charged?
she was a 6 year old little girl not a prostitute.
@@LawAndCrime 😃😃😃😃😃
This mf been getting away with shyt since I was a kid.. I'm 41
💯💯💯
Exactly sad smdh
Absolutely absurd 😢
Right!
Messed up that it took this long
Meek went from escaping Rick Ross to Surviving Diddy lol
Heck naw 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@@marcushunter1406 went from Dream Chasing to Nightmare Fleeing lol
Rick Ross is a stark defender of The Diddler.
Is anybody else thinking Puff is gonna end up Epsteined?
I hope they assign extra guards to make sure he doesn't off himself. Well worth spending the extra money.
The Difference is Sean has children to think about. Epstein didn't have children.
Prolly gon say he got beat to death tryn touch his cellmate😂
Yep, I truly believe someone GONE put a hit on his Life. He knows TO much AND he GONE sing so the song gone be silence. DIDDY should have NEVER EVER NEVER MADE A DEAL WITH THE DEVIL. THE DEVIL DON'T PLAY FAIR EVER.😮😮😮
Yes I hope not though
Johnson & Johnson right now........... " Damn that was our biggest customer ! " 🤣🤣
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Probably the first person to ever buy Baby Oil in Bulk
Motion Lotion
Lmao 🤣
I wonder if they tested what was in those bottles though? Surely they did. Ij can’t wrap my mind around why you need that many bottles of oil & lube lol 😂😂 🤦♀️
Meek Mill definitely needs an interview in the Surviving Diddy series
Yes, exactly 🤷🏾♀️
If it was a drake audio, ya would say it's Ai and fake even though diddy has already man handled him even breaking his shoulder, but since its Meek Ai doesn't come up and just off a distored audio its facts 😂.
Meek was in the pool telling Diddy how much love he had for him...he said Diddy be putting in that work. "Work" a code word for ****?
@@RedBone-q2v wrong .
@@JoshuaMartinez-uk2dxthen he calling meek mill daddy
The people who helped Diddy need to be held accountable as well...what they did to people for all these years is just sick
They won't because it'll involve government official names former and current
@@CanadianRaven-s1p what happened to innocent till proven guilty?
All people in this chain has to be charged
Usher Justin Bieber haha u know they loved those freak offs 😂 or they wouldn't attend
You're 100% right .. and all these rappers and stars who knew and said nothing
Tupac finally Justice
@@jacobromero2634 AMEN, BOUT DAMN TIME
@@jacobromero2634 about time biggie for justice
Biggie finally justice
I would bet Tupac was abused as well!
@MeinemLeben naw I don't see that he is soo hood
"This thing bigger than Nino Brown, If I Go Down Im Takiin Everyone Wiid Me""....😂😂
@@gavjacks1082 underrated comment
Just imagine with Sean Diddy Combs billions $$$ that he may have thought about buying hotel Real Estate in Manhattan.
I can't wait for this trial to be televised!
Federal no cameras but cnn will have some jagoff artist rendering court depictions every 12 minutes
Federal Courts do not televise trials, unfortunately.
@@teriz4506Nooooo, ah crap
Most of the information will be funneled through media outlets which are doing an awesome job reporting in this preliminary phase. Federal courts unfortunately don’t allow cameras
@@teriz4506that's a bummer.
Pardon the pun
All the baby oil jokes really undermine the seriousness of his crimes. People were abused for years. So many victims you can’t even comprehend the things they went through.
Sadly people just dont care , its obvious and reallysad @xxlizziezxxful
We care. I think people are making a joke out of it because he was even more creepy than we thought he was. To find a thousand bottles of baby oil is the most bizarre thing I have ever heard in a true crime case. Also sometimes humor is a way to cope with shock because we still can’t believe all this is happening.
@@gapeach14 YOU ARE SO RIGHT. AGREED!!
And people have been talking about his abuse of others for years too, and the law enforcement did nothing for many decades.
That’s more under-minding than ANY joke could ever do. All this pseudo virtue signaling you’re doing, get a grip.
@@gapeach14Very well sad! To find a thousand bottles of baby oil anywhere but a warehouse is damaging to the brain. Especially under these circumstances.
All his victims deserve their long overdo justice. Ppl of upper status need to be accountable for their sick & deplorable behavior.
Best post-Diddy-arrest podcast I've watched. Host and guest were brilliant at explaining.
Money and power has a way of making some think they are untouchable. Disgusting!
ill gotten gains with ill gotten evil ways
He must have been a genuius to accrue the money and properties he got. But Sean needs a Johnny Cochran pitbull lawyer. This is such an interesting discussion.
@@Chicago48 dont think it will work the dude is a monster.
@@Chicago48It doesn't matter who you think you are. Know one Trump's God's word. His word is the ultimate law. " You will reap what you sow, period!!!"
Yeah, but the problem is some ppl get preferred treatment. Matt Gates should be charged. They feds investigating him before Puff. . They all need to be arrested
Clive Davis created this rap empire of crime.
And yet, he seems to get away from the drama...smh
They all had choices
Yes, he did!! He was Diddy's secret lover. And he's the one who threw Diddy under the bus and put homeland security on Diddy. Diddy, your turn!!!
@@virgilbunn3314 If P Diddy is Darth Vadar, Clive Davis is Emperor Palpatine.
And ANDRE HARREL
Take a shot everytime they say freak off in a news highlight of Diddy 😂.
There are too many ((( freak- offs ))), not enough circuses.
Thanks for the Upside App.
I will never understand why rich and successful people who are blessed with wealth, would give all that away just to be in jail? Makes no sense.
all his riches will be stripped away.
They FALL IN LOVE WITH POWER 🚩👀💅🏾
Gods Plan
Because it’s never enough!
NONE!!!!
It's really great to tune into a creditable source like sidebar. I genuinely enjoyed it. I'm looking forward to more
50 been screaming it for years 😅
50 cent is a HATER.
@@gloalassociatesl.l.cglobal8015ok diddler
Yes yes 😂
Russell was smart he was older he dipped diddy was changing his life
keefe d told on puff an cassie
Baby oil and freak offs those words alone are diabolical yooooooooo 😭🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣😭
from a mansion to a jail cell..sad!
Bieber needs justice!
Really and usher I been know about it with usher
Bieber needs a proctologist
Wow, I wonder if both of them felt relief when they heard of his arrest or silently cried. So many people hurt for so long.
@@faheemafridi9860 usher needs to be in jail for handing over Justin to p. Diddy knowing what was going to happen.
Jay-Z on them tapes lol
Beyoncé, Oprah, Clive, and so many more.
Jaguar Wright said Jay z is worst than pdiddy, but he's not sloppy and he is very patient.
Unh huh uh uh jigga
@maikeruBlackheart Some people want to throw names out, and I have not seen any proof. Stop saying this and that and provide the proof. Jay not sloppy so I can't wait.
@Deni19640 watch jaguars videos. She been around.
Its time for meek to speak up now. No need to be scared anymore.
There's an audio recording of Meek "speaking up." 😮
Lol
We shall inherit the earth.
@@RedBone-q2v I honestly thought that was gonna be said at the beginning of the vid. He was quite vocal indeed :D
Lol meek liked it! He isn't going to say anything!
Nobody is reeling from this news. People knew he did this for a long long time. It was only a matter of time before he finally got caught
They were gathering evidence...
People like to talk and he burned plenty of bridges, so here we are😳
@@nononsense5182They actually contemplated just that. Waiting and watching until it became enough.
Exactly. All Diddy victims will finally get justice.
Mill is like “my booty is safe!”
Nah man, meek willingly participated
If anything he’s sad he ain’t gonna get anymore cheeky slaps
😂
😂
He will find someone else to fill that void
@@1suzuki2004🤣💅🏾👀🧴🧴🧴
How do lawyers defend clients KNOWING they are guilty. So money hungry with no morals.
I thought the same thing. How is his lawyer saying he turned himself in. Yet they arrested him in his hotel?
Because it is the prosecution’s job to prove guilt.
Please feel free to leave America if u don't like it
No one here is talking about America OR the prosecutor's job. I'm talking about morals and ethics knowing he is guilty. This is not about politics. BUT I have a right of freedom of speech and say what I like. If YOU don't like it, feel free to exit the channel.
Because there is a presumption of innocent that the law provides = everyone is innocent unless proven guilty. What anyone thinks or knows is irrelevant. The only thing relevant is that the prosecution must prove their case beyond reasonable doubt to secure a guilty verdict.
rest in PEACE 2PAC
Finally justice for Tupac, Biggie, Kim Porter, Aaliyah...
relax, it's just an arrest...
DD is not being charged with murders.
Very true specially Aaliyah
@@patdowsakul4564Not yet. More charges pending, the whole investigation is not over yet.
@@AKirshawnWith more charges coming. They are thorough.
Always Look Beyond a Smile My Grandma Always Told Me Smiling Faces Tells Lies
The 1970s R&B group "The Dramatics" sung that too
They were from Detroit
Yes and the ones are to nice are the bad ones
You know he ain’t going alone!!!
I’m curious to see who all he throws under the bus
Who else do you guys think is going?
Kim Kardashian will go down with him. She participated in a lot of his sicko behaviors.
Jay Z, Beyoncé, Td Jakes, Oprah, Clive Davis, the list goes on and on
Jonathan Oddi named a few in his interrogation a decade ago. No one wanted to believe him and others though. The party is over!!
I really don't think he has a choice to "out" certain people. He's dead man walking if he does. Look at Epstein. He couldn't out all his clients. However, Diddy's ego and simple mind nature he most likely wouldn't consider that and name names.
Kevin Hart definitely is sweating
The day the guy was singing to French Montana, happy birthday inner channelling Marilyn Monroe was creepy.
Weird how the FBI are raiding the mayors office, and diddy in the same timeframe. Anyone else realize the timing of all of this?
Meek Mill's side looking crazy guilty. Why would Meek's lawyer even agree to make a comment on this knowing how Meek is viewed in this whole diddler saga?
Lol 50 cent is about to have a field day. Wonder if Wwndy Williams is alert enough to see Diddy's "empire" collapse?
I 🙏 she is I feel so bad for her
@@shannonphillips7861 This was the year her show was needed. She had all the inside scoop.
INDICTMENT ON JAY-Z IN 54321
It's not coming. Jayz is smarter than that. He made sure he's aligned with people who have more to lose than himself
His downfall was suing those Big Liquor companies
Why did he sue them?
@@MaxMillion-yv8ibThey weren't selling his product in other markets only a select few...
Business is Business
Facts 💯 ‼️
Bingo!
They been knew who Diddy was. They was just waiting to use it against him.
His daughters are probably feeling so humiliated over this whole ordeal. They've been going through stuff since their mother died
Out of ALL the comments I've read thus far on different forums abt this, YOURS caught me. ❤ I've thought about all his girls since this began. I sincerely hope they're truly in the care of a safe, loving, protecting genuine guardian. Bc their mental health has to be first and foremost. As a mother and grandmother, im really concerned about those girls. SMH... This is a complete travesty. 😔
Diddy doesn’t look like the type of person to have an Excel spreadsheet on who got paid
Rightfully was DENIED BAIL!
This right here my friend !!!!! “ Trial of the century “ ….
Katt Williams was right!
this one bigger than OJ Simpson trial
So yall brought the guy that couldn't save his clients lol
🤣💅🏾
He actually ended up walking Cosby out the Court on appeal
Cosby got off easy if you ask me
Meek got charged dropped n let off probation
Facts!!😂
He's going to be on the receiving end this time😂
He walk both sides of the street like Will Smith.
will groomed his own kids... eew
Yeah! He's gonna get SHAFTED 😂
Meek mill on them tapes getting his cheeks busted.
The trial is about to be wild lol
For real champ
Imagine they leak all them videos sheesh
@@Booyaahh5050 they need to
@Localjadedealer is it going to be televised??
Imagine losing everything, yet have to still pay Sting $2000 a day!
😂😂😂
Sting?
@@c.w6593 yes Sting, diddy violated copyrights without permission and Sting sued him.
@@c.w6593 he has to pay sting $2000 a day for use of his song.
@@c.w6593 Puffy sampled a Sting track for “Ill be missing you”, and has to pay Sting $2000 per day for it.
Sean Baby Oil Combs.
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
On a random note, I love when you do the reporting. You have an amazing voice for it. I could listen to you talk all day!
Yes its very calm. Some other channels going 100, makes your head hurt worse than the case. Lol 😟😖
the thumbnail alone got bro lookin bad😂
Lol they had him looking like an AI Somalian..😅
Fabulous coverage, you are great!
Cheek mills watching the news eating pop corn “ I hope he go to jail, he took my booty too 😔 “ lmao 😂 🤣 😅
The love of money greed demonic
That we see
Did anyone else read the title and think Meek Mill was getting arrested too until you reread it again); 🤣😭
Always informative! Thanks Jesse
Hollywood is going down
it's too late for Meek Mill his career went down when he gave his a** up to his boyfriend Queen Puffy😂😂😂😂
His hole got destroyed
Diddy had him squealing
Was cooling off his hole in the pool in that video.
@@carlos_sosaa who wrote this.. 😂😂😂 that took me out
😂😂😂😂Facts
Diddy was that self absorbed he didn't think to get rid or hide some of the evidence went this fist dropped🤦🏾♀️
Exactly
He had dope in his hotel room freaking yesterday. Lazy Addict
Diddy was keeping that evidence close for blackmailing.
Diddy was keeping that evidence close for blackmailing.
Do you have to put Puffy photo up 50,000 times in the video 😂❓
The eyes are the windows to the soul, I have always thought Diddy & R Kelly have evil eyes that’s why they both wore sunglasses all of the time
I enjoy the podcast here. This is very well informed. Appreciate the info!
They should look into clive davis.
And Diddys Assistant..
It must tear Meek Mill up to have his lover behind bars. I believe the intimate relations between Meek and Diddy was consensual. Not that it matters what his sexuality is, but I can't stand a liar or a downlow.
Intimate? That was a bloody mess. He went to the emergency room.
Meek had already been torn up.
You should care it's unnatural;)
Idk I don’t see diddy capable of being a lover. It was likely transactional in nature. Meek probably is thinking of his own reputation right now and trying to protect it.
Jay Z be like : "don't get me involved with this, I didn't take part in any of his party."
He may have been on those tapes. Jaguar said he's worse than Diddy. I think many should know. If it was consenting, they should be fine. Its the ones who didn't consent, were forced and drugged that's more important.
@@rebeccaboyar Interstate transportation of ppl for prostitution = the MANN ACT…
updated in 1978.
This is the trial of the 21st century
He had it all and it wasn't enough and now he's eating slop in jail sleeping without a pillow and going through withdrawals!
😮
No eating. Just withdrawals and rampant diarrhea.😮
I couldn’t wait to watch your video of you covering this arrest. I know it would be coming before it came 😂❤
our society appreciates people with material success, to a point that sometimes overlooks they have deep emotional wounds and traumas that get exacerbated when they attain power and influence, and allow them to feel entitled to behave like scum bags. we should never allow those kinds of behavior on us or onto others. Kudos to Casey!!!
Cheeks mills took those Diddy back shots like a champ 😂
The Canadian is probably nervous right now.
Who?
🤣🤣🤣👍🏾
Justin Bieber
Crazy comment, imagine stuff just beginning to pop up from different countries right now. This is a person who could go all over. This is bad.
I hope the trial is on TV
It won’t be! Federal doesn’t allow cameras in the courtroom.
He had better take what ever deal is offered! If he takes this to trial he's going to loose and sent for life !
If he's smart he'll plead out and he won't go to trial
He'll go straight to the hole!
@@misutasutanto6312
That’s what I said. He’d have to.
His cohorts won’t be sleeping well knowing he’s probably going to snitch.
He’s most likely going to get Epsteined.
This man does not deserve to walk the streets. No bond no plea Justice for Hip Hop
There won't be a deal he's top of the chain plus way to much evidence to even offer a deal.
Meek Mill has the most famous clapped cheeks ever.
First is Kim K ,cheek mill is in 2nd place
💀💀💀💀
He sure was squaking behind that door!!😂
Meek in da pool tryin to cool his pothole up smh
@MonetSasa
😩😂😅”Besides that, Mrs. Lincoln had you like the play?” 😩😂I’m using that expression from now on
This story is absolutely crazy
Bill Cosby sent Jello Pudding snacks to P Diddy’s cell.18:06
😂😂😂😂
Ohh yeah i forgot Meek Milly took that Diddy pipe on the regular. This trial is going to be nothing but embarrassing and full of LOLZ. The laughs will be for those tough macho rappers and moguls playing like they're heterosexuals. I cant wait for the trial to begin.
I hope they used the security guards video tape when push daddy was giving it to cheek mills😂😂😂😂
I'm proud of you daddy; your putting in that work 😒😒😒 Diddy talking to Meek.... 😂😂😂
@Danadane4 HAHAAA! 🤣🤣 I remember that. Meek was trying to keep it on the low because Brother Love was blowing him up in front of everyone. I just hope they pull the ringleaders up for trial as well ie Lucien Grange and Clive Davis.
People are so cruel and social media doesn’t help. No one really knows if Meek ever did anything with that man. I definitely don’t believe that.
Meek Mill aka. Cheek Fill or Cheek Drill. 😂
1000 baby oil is insane tho 😂💀
If Diddy’s account of the freak offs being consensual and if what those tapes show don’t coincide with what he said he’s DONE !
If you are on a substance you can’t legally consent.
You named your company BAD BOY and it finally took this long for doing bad things to catch up to you
Hush… if you’re really a DJ I’m sure you played many songs from”Bad Boy”
The only thing his lawyer is going to ask him is who's going to be on his visitor list and who is his cellmate going to be?
What about the murder of Kim Porter? And will JZ be held accountable for his actions in the past. What About Alyha's mysterious death on the " plane crash " will All of these individuals involved be held accountable?
Oprah or Gail should interview him. 😂
Racketeering and he’s the only one charged???
Kingpin charge. HNIC.
Everybody else get IMMUNITY for Testyfying.
For now. Definitely believe that there will be more indictments coming. People scrambling to make deals with the Feds for sure.
excellent interview
These lawyers are just as evil
He was a street drug dealer and gangster before he got into music.
Why is any of this a surprise!!!???
Cheeks Killed tryna make sure he aint part of Diddy's babyoil drama
Sidebar pay me for watching lol
If he's pay 50 millions for bail, yeah next move is a flight to go hang out with Russell Simmons In Malaysia.✈️🛩
Off subject but, Usher needs to be charged for handing Justin over to Diddy knowing what was going to happen because he went through it. As far as I'm concerned Usher is responsible for what happened to Justin and needs to pay the price for it period
He wasn’t “allegedly “ beating Cassie!!
It was on video of him beating and kicking her!
"Thine will be done"! Nothing is done before the time! All chickens go to roost at dusk!
Its Diddy's time to face the 🎵🎶 music!
Well, thus far the pre-trial detention has been granted .... but he has a 'bail appeal' tomorrow afternoon in front of a 'New' judge ....
A new judge he will pay off 😅
This is a low down dirty shame. What happened to due process, innocent until proven guilty 🙏🏾
Jay-Z and Beyonce are Next 💯
Let him pay for all of his Crimes.😂😂😂😂
Is that why Ben dumped J lo. The feds showed her turning out people with Diddy 😂
I hope she is not on no tapes. It was obvious something happened back then.
Hes also been cought tring to get someone else to take the punishment. Not in this investigation.
He ain't gettn' out!
THE QUESTION IS....DOES DIDDY HAVE THE BEST LAWYERS ON HIS SIDE AND DEFEND HIM....