How to Use a Kineteco Spring Starter
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- Опубліковано 16 вер 2015
- Kira shows Ollie how to start an engine with a spring starter.
Kineteco Spring Starters sell at list prices that range between £1,000 and £10,000 for bespoke specials (US$1,400 to $14,000). Ex Works UK. All starters are built to order from components source within Europe. Kineteco is increasingly manufacturing many of such components to improve lead times. The lead time for high volume models can be less than one week, specials are likely to have lead times of many months.
One of the most popular applications is as a secondary starter on lifeboats.
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Client: "How easy is your system to operate?"
KI Ltd: "Literally a 10yr old could do it"
Client: "Prove it"
Kira "Hold my frappicino"
Watch out: it doesn't say EVEN a child can do it -- it says ONLY a child can do it.
Yup, just as ICE are being consigned to history.....they re-invent the spring starter.
But they have a captive market - dem idiot preppers....lol
@@adem5762 Consigned to history, not quite.
I've definitely worked with qualified engineers who'd find a way to fuck it up
I wished modern engines have manual start like that just in case your battery or electric starter fails.
if your battery is dead, your modern engine isn't going to start anyway
@@PecanRanch it will if it’s mechanical injection diesel
@@mikecorleone6797 - modern ?
@@josegarcia2762 yes
Just push it - 2. Gear and let the clutch come oit
This is a master class in brilliant advertising. Absolutely nothing is said, so that the product speaks completely for itself. Bra-VO! :D Kira's got some acting chops!
Heya Calyo :D
@@norliasmith5427 Well hi there :P
Allowing the product to speak for itself is the exact _opposite_ of "brilliant advertising".
@@UnitSe7en k
@@calyodelphi124 It's not my fault if abstract concepts are beyond your ability.
I've been doing it wrong all this time using that key thing.
😂😂😂😂😂
LMAO
Hahahahahahaha
I guess you never started an old Cat or John Deer with a pony motor.
Key, what key? I just step on the brake pedal and push the button.
That was the most adorable advertisement I've ever seen
Yes, i agree, plus i think they did a great job with this advert, since it was super important that they showed how even a child could crank that starter.
The smirk on her face LOL.
women can do everything the same as men, they just have to try
I love your profile pic btw.
its a masterpiece! :-)
The unfortunate part about these innovations isn’t that they often existed decades ago and were fazed out. But the fact they never seem to catch on again strongly suggests an element of being pushed out, and not just fazed out.
The KTM EXC dirtbikes are a great example of this. A bike specifically meant to be rd legal and capable of much farther journeys into the back country, and had a manual kick start redundancy to accompany the electric start for obvious reasons.
With nearly zero push back or complaints about this in any way, and an undeniably large fan appreciation for the feature, they just removed the kick start and claimed it was for weight savings.
Technology is great, but the seeming arrogance of its creators to assume it will always work and have no down sides often ruins the freedom technology is supposed to provide. And worse, often simply serves to make us far more dependant then we were before.
We get this when we allow children to make important decisions.....
you can always roll start.
@@g__wizz Unless you've got an auto clutch.. well, I guess you could if you brought the tools to tighten up the the auto clutch...
@@g__wizz Depends if it's got an automatic decompressor, I've got a BMW F650 and the engine won't run at all below about 700rpm so you can't push start it at a walking pace.
Better to stay with the older KTM RFS engines. They are simpler and more bullet proof. Dodge Cummins 12 valve engines require no electricity to run if you replace the electric fuel control valve.
You knew it was fake when you saw the man reading the instructions. We never do that first, or so my ex says.
true
it is true xD even though i am a manual reader, it'd never be the very first thing i'd do xD
What the hell are 'instructions' ? ;)
What are instructions? A last resort, of course!
i recently bought a "45 min install storm door"
5 hours later i threw the instructions away and hung it the way i wanted it
it fits flush, solidly and square...
instructions be damned
I love how she handles over the key for dad to hold, after winding. She is still a kid.
Kid and champion arm wrestler.
Hahaha!
She didn't gave the key to her dad to hold, she wanted him to start the engine again. See she killed engine upon handing the Key😮😮😅...
Usually you have to wait until they're teenagers before they know everything.
The only thing worse than the kids who claim to know everything... are the ones that do.
@@tommallon4052 Afraid of someone more knowledgeable than you? Perhaps listen to someone, you may gain some of that knowledge for yourself. A father of someone I know is a complete bafoon when it comes to electrical and mechanical, something I happen to be semi-proficient in. But he's proficient in the medical field, something I am not. I show him things, he shows me things. It's how well you listen and partake in the learning process, not how much you know.
Used a similar starter on forklifts, the engine a perkins 3.152 ( 3 cylinder 152 cu in capacity) was used in a chemical works and as such had no electrics ,easy to start even when cold ,just lift the decompression lever and turn the engine with the normal crank handle until the injectors could be heard pinging then drop the decompression lever and operate the starter ,most times it fired up first time .Happy days working at ICI in the 80s.
We had a pyroban on vc4 ici. Pain in the arse to start in winter. Wasn't spring started but done with a 2000 psi bottle on the back. If it didn't start you spent ten minutes manually pumping it up again.
They made lawn mowers that spring started in the 60’s, I always wondered why it didn’t become more popular. Makes a lot of sense, especially in the boondocks.
Dinosaur complaint ,
Well you know how it goes .
You wound it up then stood with your feet under the lawn mower and when you pushed the button it cut your toes off because people just do that.
Now with the proper safety device you could use that spring starter and be happy and have most of your toes.
It's expensive. A chinese knockoff gx160 is the same price as the recoil starter kit itself 😂
Those mowers became nick named the "amputator" because they would release before the person was ready and it would tear their arm up... Not saying that would happen here, but it could...
@@TufdogsPlace as usual, blame the machine for improper maintenance and cleaning, not the operator. A good machine should clean and repair itself, oh no! That would mean Artificial Intelligence! Arrgghh! I’m going insane! Help me! Oooh! Error, Error, Error! Reset, Reset, Reset! Click! (Darkness).
@@dinosaurcomplaints2359 No body blamed anybody for anything, was just sayin... Lighten up dude .
Though I can usually start a mower in one pull, it would be amazing if lawn mowers had this.
One day, maybe. Kineteco have developed prototype model for outboard motors, where it can be difficult or impossible to start by hand.
There were a couple spring started push mowers back in the day and a few aftermarket ones for the old Briggs 5hp
There were actually some push mowers a while back (mid-2000s) that had spring starters in addition to the pull starter. The spring starter wasn't manually wound, but instead wound itself from the inertia of the flywheel when you stopped the engine. Then, to start the engine back up, all you had to do was prime it and push the start button. If it didn't start, then you could pull-start it like a normal mower.
There were briggs& Stratton engines from the 1950 and 1960 that had a wind up starter.
vector6977 they worked good, don't know why they never took off
Back in the old days some lawnmowers had what was called a "coffee grinder" hand crank starter.
I had that Lawnmower
@@jamesbulldogmiller yes so did I! In fact I had two !!!
Yep. My first mower had a crank and push button b&s motor. Check out my other comment
I had a rotary reel mower...
@@joeschlotthauer840 which was it: rotary or reel?
When I was a kid, one of the lawnmowers had a spring starter like this. there was a steel handle thing on top, you unfolded it to make the crank, then wound it up and hit a lever. Almost forgot about it.
You must be about as old as me. We had one in our household, and Grampa had a different upscale version that released the spring when you folded the crank back into place.
I remember that damn thing well, the wind handle on a ratchet as well, click, click, click, then press the handle down and hope for the best. Thanks for the reminder.
@@Darryl_Frost they had them on the Lawn Boy mowers
I remember this type of thing and it was on an old Victa lawnmower.
@@steviebboy69 it was a Victa and in Australia as well, would have been in the 1970's I guess.. I don't remember if it broke or not, but I remember by dad removing the mechanism and just using a rope with a knot as a pull started, was quicker and easier. The things my father want through to allow me to mow the lawns!
A small version of this for snowblowers would be fantastic!
We are looking at just that. Please keeping looking at www.springstarter.com
@@kinetecointernationallimit8758 Fantastic! Will keep my eyes open! 😊
@@kinetecointernationallimit8758 and motorcycles please :-)
Briggs & stratton used to make them, there's a few videos on here of spring start lawn mowers.
My grandfather had an old Craftsman (Sears) lawn mower that had a crank that loaded a spring. Folding the handle over into it's storage position released the spring and spun the engine.
We had one too. Used it till about 1990 when the starter finally broke. Very reliable mower.
@@headfirst6227 This one made it to 1995 ish, but that starter died well before that. I took it off and wrapped a rope around what remained.
@@tonyc.4528 That’s how things were back then. Get the most out of what you have. We did that a lot.
Ours (circa 1970-75 or so) was similar (or you are remembering it wrong). YOu set choke, set throttle to any speed above 'stop", cranked it up and folded the crank handle down.
THEN, you pulled the little starting lever from "Crank" to "Start" and the spring unloaded...
If cold, it took ours, usually, two crank sequences to start, the first one primed the engine. With a warm engine, it would start on one crank. I used that mower from sometime around my tenth birthday until the day my dad bought a John Deer 110 rider/garden tractor.
@@NihongoGuy Ours was from ‘70 to ‘72 I’m pretty sure. Same as yours except it didn’t have the start lever. I remember it was run over by my aunt. Crushed one of the wheels and smashed the body. My uncle repaired it and gave it to us in ‘72 or ‘73.
the cutest video about engines you'll see in your entire life 🥰🥰🥰
I love having a back-up spring starter on my Sisu emergency generator.
My first access to technology was a flip phone senior year. Wow have times changed.
It took a 10 year old how the spring starter on WW2 German Tanks worked..... Awesome!!!
Gotta love that there's zero electrical involved in that engine. I can see why it's for lifeboats. i'd love to see this thing on a bigger engine like a farm tractor!
They used to put impulse spring starters on Briggs engines. You would crank it up just like the girl did, then move a lever. Worked every time.
I was just going to post that my dad had a lawn mower that started that way. You beat me to it. He had a bad back and it was way easier for him to start.
my lawn mower has one of these starters but its a lauson engine
I had one, but honestly it was NOT easier than a normal rope start.
This is a great idea for small motors too. It could be much smaller even with a pull cord instead of the crank. I was thinking it would be very helpful when using a generator. If you are in the mountains without electricity, you can't use an electric starter. It would need to be easily retrofitted to fit on most small motors and a smaller, more pancake like profile.
Nothing new. I had a spring starter on a lawnmower over 40 years ago... and that lawnmower was probably 20 yrs old at the time. Wind it up, push the lever, and watch it.... not start. Rope starters were so much faster and easier.
@Slick Armor My point was that the above idea has existed for a long time. The secondary point of my post was that those wind up starters are no fun when the engine is cold or has been sitting for awhile. Much easier to pull the rope a few times than to wind up several times. Might be good for weak people, though.
@Slick Armor They work fine. The issue is that they are more work and it is slower to wind them up and push the button than to just yank a rope. These days you can just buy a mower with an electric starter which solves the problem in a better way.
We had a lawn mower with a spring release starter when I Was a kid. I always thought that was the neatest thing.
They used to have these built-in to LAWNMOWERS in the late 70s early 80s in Australia. Like just factory options you could pick when you ordered it.
Sears Craftsman mower in 1960's
no way, that was an option? thats amazing
Yessirree. The mower would have a horizontally-mounted crank atop the engine. Wind it up, then let it go and the engine is turned over.
I used to have a Briggs made in 1966 that had a spring start. By 1980 you couldn't find a spring assembly any more. Some fools were opening them up and getting hurt by the strong spring.
I could imagine this being a response to concerns by potential customers that these require great strength and effort to start. "Here, watch my 10 year old daughter operate it with ease." Pretty convincing to me, not much effort involved at all!
i imagine its also got some kind of gear reduction
a 1 way ratcheting mechanism and a clutch of some kind
probably a ratchet releasing mechanism with a big ass spring
@@djaydeved Yeah, sounds about right to me. I seem to recall that these use a screw mechanism that unwinds to start the engine, and a stack of belville washers (alternating orientation) as a spring. I believe there are other videos out there explaining and showing their function.
The handle has been extended The welded section is there easy to see. You are full of Bullshit......
What a cutie. Never heard of this starting system, and now I will research it a bit. Well done.
Man I wish I had a dad that cool when I was growing up.
Man they picked a good kid for this. She's got a very good 'thoroughly unimpressed' face.
i think thats the default setting for kids these days.
Interesting concept starting an engine indoors.
Notice it was shut off immediately after being started. So nothing out of the ordinary.
@@johnbarron4265 Companies especially need to be responsible. There is someone out there that might think “this company has a started generator indoors....it’s ok. To you and I it may seem idiotic to start a car in the garage but think how many people did this in Texas and died?
@@A1rsoftKid Good point. This is definitely not a USA based firm. In the USA there would be a massive fine for this type of irresponsibility. Even the NIOSH/ National Institute for Occupational Safety and Health has guidelines which go into detail. Very irresponsible indeed.
I had a Sears rotary lawnmower that had a spring starter. It sat on top of the engine and was somewhat difficult to crank. When the engine was new and in tune, it worked great.
Best commercial I've seen in a long time.
Way to go Kira!
This magnific!
Already during the WW-II a powerful Soviet war tank was started like this, due to its powerful diesel engine.
There were also agricultural tractors, which had this starter.
But the ad is very good, with the lovely girl starting the engine effortlessly
This is something I want on all my vehicles.
So it's a big wind up toy, lol!
I'd love to have a starter like that on my riding mower .
They were a thing a few decades ago. Stuff like this existed years ago, and got phased out, for who knows what reason. I had a few mowers with this feature. HONESTLY, it was too much work to wind it up, it took a lot of strength the last few turns, as you can see with the girl in the video.
@@kevintomb still an interesting piece of history. By the time I came around in '84, this stuff was a thing of the past .
I can already hear these advertising slogans: "Our starters - so intuitive that even a child can start them!"
So easy, even a woman can use it 🤣
That was probably the reason why they did this in the first place, they wanted to show that it's not hard to start.
I thought the engine was a model and I didn't expect it to start. Surprised me.
I could definitely see this being useful in my area, where battery theft is a major issue for construction equipment companies.
seems really resourceful
Would love to see more spring starts returning.
Great idea! try making one to replace the cord pull on motor mowers, jet washers and small generators.
They did in the 60s..
Cant believe someone did this nowaday they are genious
thats the most beautiful thing i've seen in over a year.
I want one and I don't even own a boat ! Is this meant to be easily installed if your starter or electrical system fails? Or is it meant to replace the electrical starter, still operate with electricity and have a manual option when electrical systems fail?
Hello Brett, the spring starter can be used alone or as a back-up if the electric starter fails. Check out our website for more information - www.springstarter.com
Thank you Karen! I want one, it seems a must to have on any sensible backup plan !
Imagine if the starter would also store energy for the next start after starting up :P (mechanically ofc)
Fantastic idea. I must build one.
I remember when I was a kid, my first motor was a B&S CRANK TOP winder. They should have never gotten rid of that setup. Wind it, then just hit the button & send it.🤪
Fantastic idea. Couldn't be that hard to store energy once running....
@@LazloNQ wow. As always, 1 ruins it for the many. Like with laws. One idiot does something stupid, then everyone has to abide by some new law, and our freedom gets a little smaller, and so does learning responsibility. What ever happened to just being responsible ? Now, they wrap you in bubble wrap, stick a pillow under your butt, and put a helmet on you. You can't move, but at least you don't need to learn responsibility. 🤪
I think some larger diesel engines do that via compressed air, they build up a head of pressure in the reserve tank to use to spin up the motor after a shutdown. bangshift.com/bangshiftxl/video-bonanza-the-sound-and-fury-of-bad-ass-diesel-air-starters-loud-proud-and-scaring-old-ladies-for-decades/
Fantastic demo - well done!!!
Man. I wish I had a spring starter when I was her age. Dad made me skip school and go to work with him building tennis courts back in the 70's. Many times the dumper would kick back while starting. Gripping the handle with bare hands on a wet ice cold morning always made me nervous.
Lovely experience and look your still alive. That was a wonderful generation where kids still learned something from their Parents/Grand parents. Today dad say's "dunno google it!"
Why don't @Kineteco International Limited branch out into Clockwork generators for small power applications, such as phone charging and places where noise or environmental restrictions prohibit petrol or diesel generators?
She walked off like a baws
I LOVE these types of starters
As a kid our lawnmower had a spring starter on the Briggs and Stratton engine .
Все гениальное просто))
Ради нескольких кадров установили медведя в белоснежный коридор. Даже стена на заляпана, где кривой стартер(ключик заводной) висит.
Kira acts like she runs the shop, and honestly I’d let her. The kid’s got presence!
Very ingenuous starting system!
Офигенный стартер
Так вот он, - безщёточный стартер существует !
Just like the old wind-up spring starters in WWII tanks.
Those were kinetic start. Spin a giant heavy flywheel and engage the clutch
Yes
Brilliant! Actions speak louder than words!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Wow this is a game changer. We had old Victa lawnmowers in Australia that you wound the handle then pull the trip lever and off they go by not this big. Nice
Zip ah do Doo Dah, Zip ah dee day.......
I still like the Coffman (shotgun shell) starters the best.
@Mick Mack That scene always bothered me. You don’t undo a flooded engine by just cranking with the ignition off! You wanna burn that fuel out - - you just turn the fuel off and crank with the throttle wide open. But, who cares, right? It was still cool.
this is almost as cool as the cofferman starter but i want this in my car anyways
良い仕事したぜ。ってドヤ顔で去っていく娘がカッコいいｗ
I did a good job. The girl walking away with a smug look on her face is so cool lol!
never seen a starter like that, pretty neat
The next time I need to run a perfect engine that’for some reason doesn’t have a starter motor. This will be my second choice.
Something like a small diesel water pump that is in a back paddock that might get started once a month. Or just about any piece of machinery in a remote location.
Ha ha good one.. still laughing. You make an excellent point!
this is a nice thing for something like a generator that is to big for a pull start. You know that when you will need to start that thing the battery will be dead
Нужно установить в каждый мерседес
Mais didático impossível. Parabéns pela promotora de vendas. Excelente comercial.
Mack trucks had air Starters!
When I was a kid we had a lawnmower that you cranked like that and hit a button and it would start. Much easier than trying to pull your arm out of socket trying to pull start.
fun fact: Kira is 5'11", Ollie is 9"2"
...дело семейное.
Me at my previous job: !?
The other guy: "ermagerd, it's not rocket science, a 5 year old can understand."
Me, to the secretary: "fetch me a 5 year old please"
OK, ill get it to ya Kineteco. Iv always found it trashy when companies use kids in their adverts. But you guys did a good job, so take my like.
Creepy. UA-cam recommended this for me and it's right up my alley. Not only do I think smaller engines should have a form of manual starting, I wouldn't mind something like this Kineteco for my cars when starting them at 25 below zero (that's Fahrenheit, folks).
But what even is this thing ? And I have a sudden urge to crank it
I’ve had a couple of engines with these type of starters on , if the engine needs more than one throw over the compression , it just won’t start it . You barely get one revolution of the engine with those starters . The engine has to be absolutely spot-on , otherwise there is no way it will start it . you will be there all day cranking that thing trying to get the engine to start . There is usually a reason things don’t catch on . It’s a good idea , but unless the engine is brand-new and starts first kick it’s useless
Interesting comment. If the starter power is correctly matched to the engine, it should start the engine, whether old or new. Very old engines are easier to turn and should start with a spring starter, which will crank the engine three times faster than the standard electric starter and easily overcome the lost compression. In very cold climates, you either need to upgrade the power of the starter and/or use starting aids.
Shot of ether saves the day.
fab service and fab product always from the team at Kineteco International - starting engines everyday, everywhere. If you have engines that need a kick start, look no further.
Interesting to see something that was developed over a 100 years ago being used today.
Yes...this type of starter was used to start WW 1 radial engines.
Does she come with the kit or do I have to provide my own 😂
Get a Vietnamese one. They're cheapest and there's more there than in Japan.
@@OffGridInvestor lower quality though and usually break a lot sooner than the top quality ones
Ради нескольких кадров установили медведя в белоснежный коридор. Даже стена на заляпана, где кривой стартер(ключик заводной) висит.
Эта хреновина умеет сама за собой мыть коридор. Ключик для этого висит на противоположной стенке, которая не попала в кадр.
Разве там, где стоит двигатель обязательно должно быть все засрано?
@@user-nu-naher-nu-ty-videl а я вижу, вам не известно выражение медведь. Хотя оно из тепловозной темы, но этот мотор за несколько тактов начадил не хуже)). Отсюда и сарказм по поводу белых стен. Дальше разжёвывать не стану ...
@@ultracolor не понял что за ключик вы имели ввиду и для чего, но русский язык позволяет выражаться более лаконично. Швабру врядли можно обозвать ключиком)), скорее это рабочий инвентарь. И малышку-коротышку(либо мотор) хреновиной - тоже. Констатирую это, следуя вложенному вами смыслу в свой ответ.
@@XaLi_GaLi В чем проблема? Ну пукнул двигатель, вентиляция отработала, потом приберутся. Разруха, смотрю, не в клозетах.
This is amazing, would be great if one was available for a 0.5L Perkins generator (Rigmaster APU) ?
Tecumseh used to have this type of wind up spring starter. I used to put them on mini bikes, it was cool to just tap the release with your toe and the motor would start right up. Many surprised faces with that set up.
What and why is this in my recommendation?
The girl was soooo cute!
Fbi! Open up!
That was so neat!
Daddy's so proud of his little girl!
А в -30" ❓ А Зиловский движок так могём ❓❓❓
там капость, що воно має з пів-оберта стартонути....
Сначала отогреть пружину. Потом накручивать)))))
@SMKS56 це зветься "холодноломкость" деякі марки легованих (пружинних) сталей можуть..... є й такі що до -100 не втрачають міцності.
@SMKS56 я металознавство ще російською вчив. Давно, у 90х. Тоді тільки частину предметів перевели.
Hahaha, Great Advertisement
Great demonstration! We this on generators in the army.
This is a great idea!
So first you need a young girl,second just stand back and let her show you how its done. 3rd make sure she doesn't shut it off at the end and walk off, or you will be back to step one again.🤣
She's like 12 ?
Already ahead of everyone in her class that only know how to charge and turn on their iPhones lmao
This setup is perfect for our boat
Applause to the young lady
Good work, young lady!
во, блин )
I want one of these and I don't even have an engine. I'm Amish.
Amish got all the stationary engines. I one saw a big cam Cummins running a sawmill, that was started with an 8hp briggs and stratton.
Hahahahaha
Ok, you convinced me. I am going to create a big pit on bottom of my boat in order to rotate an handle 40 cm long, like in the video
Future models will have a pull cord option.
@@kinetecointernationallimit8758 Maybe this is a stupid question since i dont use spring starters, but could this starter be used with pneumatics, which maybe allready available inside the vehicle, so that access and space dont become an obstacle if enough compressed air is still stored somewhere.
Nice one Kira!
Cute girl❤️
FBI......OPEN UP
SHE,S TEN !
"So easy a woman can do it."
WOW incredible invention in 21st century, crank starting engine!! 👍👍👍
Honestly would be a great apocalypse starter with no electrics to fail and a seemingly simple function.