How to pH balance water, add nutrients and bottom water microgreens! | Hydroponics |
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- Опубліковано 21 лип 2024
- In this video, CJ walks through the basics of adding nutrients, pH balancing your water and explains how we bottom water our trays!
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Thanks so very very much! I'm a novice microgreen grower and found this lesson so helpful...a keeper!
Got 15 trays on the way. My wife and I are getting what we need to start slowly. Trying to get as much info as possible, so we can be set up for success. So far I love how very informative your videos are. Thanks, and keep up the great work
Congratulations!!! That’s huge!! If y’all ever have any questions, don’t hesitate to ask!
I'll echo the gratitude. I just setup a 6 tier rack in my kitchen, 2 shelves of which im devoting to microgreens. This channel's vids have been a big help.
BTW, I did have to rig up a short 4'w x 2't curtain though, to reduce the lateral glare.
I appreciate your work! Thank you!
Thanks for providing so much information. I have started to purchase items to get on the grow. Happy growing everyone.
This was very helpful, Thank you!
I can't stop watching your videos Guys!!!
Great Job!!!
Thank you so much for the support Ty!! It really means a lot to us!
Really appreciate these videos!
I'm about to start growing microgreens for the first time so this is so helpful!!!
Great video! Thanks!
Thanks for the tutorial.
Nice video! It was cool to see your process for the PH balancing.
Thank you for the support!!! Glad you enjoyed! 🤗
thank you guys you are great !!! keep it up
Thank you so much for the support!!
Please do a demonstration with Maxigro!!! Love you guys I’ve learned so much from you both and I’m more confident to get started with my small home grow 💚
SO glad you mentioned Flouride!
The hidden plant killer! Seriously though, why can't we just not have the copper by-product in our water? *shrug*
@@OnTheGrow because it helps prevent cavities, don't ya know *facepalm
Great information on nutrients for microgreens
Excellent well done video. Very helpful!
Thank you so much for the support David! We appreciate it!
Man where the heck were you when I started? Great job. This is the second video I watched. You and the young lady are natural behind the camera and explain things in a way that makes it easy to understand. I'll be binge watching the next few days. I hope my comment do not become to annoying haha. I am looking foward to seeing more of your experiments.
Thank you so much for the support Bob! We will not get annoyed with you, we love communicating with our followers! We have a lot more fun experiments coming soon too!
Your videos are the best. You bring some much content I am always eager to see your videos. You are awesome.
Thank you so much!!! We really appreciate the support! 🤗🌱🌱
Nice video on PH balancing! hope to see next steps..such as, do you use that nutrient mixed water to soak seeds before putting them on mat? how many days in dark...etc. looking forward to more of your videos!
Thank you so much! We will be making videos on all this soon! Thanks again for the support!
I have had those Blue Lab pens go out of sync on me as much as .8 side by side with another, right after a fresh calibration. We were trying to discover the issue with a nutrient lockout we were suffering. It is always a good idea to keep the pH litmus strips handy as a backup test. It's great to see you guys use both. 👍
Good to know!! Yeah, we’ve used the manual testing method for years and it’s never failed us... We want to move to better technology, but if it works, why change it 🤗 thank you for the support!
Great information. Thank you
Thank you for the support! It means a lot to us! 🤗
Than you guys you are amazings!!
Thank you so much, we really appreciate the support!
Thank you for all your great videos! Wondering how long this mixture now stays well. Do you just keep it until you have used all 3 gallons up, or is there a shelf life to this mix?
Like the Intro...fun, short...spot on.
The tune at the beginning was a banger
You guys are so great! (Transfer Pipette but I prefer squirty thing!)
Sounds like a lot of extra work and supplies for minimal improvement. Filtered water seems to do the trick. To each their own. Thanks for the info
Perfectionism knows not what good enough means...
Thanks for your videos
Thank you for the support!! It means a lot to us!
Great informative video sir....
Another great informative video.
Glad you enjoyed it 😊 Thank you for the support!
Thanks so much
Great gouge as usual...I think the “squirty thing” is called a pipette!
Lol, yeah, when all else fails, quickly make up a name to keep the show on the road 😂 thank you!
On The Grow 🤙
Thanks for all your great videos. I'm learning (and buying) so much! In looking at the water filter you've recommended, it doesn't appear to remove fluoride. Do you remove fluoride through another method, or has it not been an issue?
What kind of filter do you use for water? Have you ever checked the chlorine and fluoride after it has run through the filter? If not, that could be easily done by taking a sample to your local water treatment plant. I would be interested in seeing how much reduction you get post filter vs pre filter.
Great channel by the way! I just found you guys and I really enjoy your content! Awesome setup you have!
Hey Thank you for all your great videos! can you do a test of pH balanced Water vs Not balanced.
I really love your videos a bit of a suggestion though on mixing your nutrients completely use a small submergible water pump just drop it in there so it’s on the bottom plug it in and let it run
Thank you for the support and great suggestion! We will try this technique out!
Tap water from Lake Lavon has, interestingly-enough, an EC of 1.2 and if the chlorine in tap water bothers you, just leave it in the shallow tray open to the air for 24 hours and it bubbles out.
Great suggestion and good to know! We always leave our buckets cracked for that same reason 🥳
@@OnTheGrow YES I HAVE HEARD CHLORINE WILL EVAPORATE OR TURN TO WATER IF LEFT OPEN. NOT SURE WHICH THOUGH.
You can boil the chlorine out in just a minute then cool it.
What's the TDS or EC reading of the nutrient you use? We can't get the Ocean Solution here in South East Asia so I'm wondering if it will be the same feeding with regular hydroponic solution and want to know how concentrated it needs to be.
I'm just about to start my very first tray of microgreens and have been watching a ton of your videos and learning a lot for the both of you. Keep up the good work and keep posting these really informative videos.
Polypropylene itself is food grade, but the release agents used in injection molding are not usually food grade unless specifically requested you should never rely on the plastic recycling designation to determine if an object is food grade.
Hey guys ,you are the best!how many times you add ocean solution during the growing?do you only put the nutrients only at the first day of bottom watering or you keep adding until the harvest day?Thanks once again!!
Cheap pH Testing: For those who are uncomfortable with titration, or for whom a digital pH meter is too expensive, a less expensive 3rd option to consider are disposeable "pH 0-14 Universal Test Strips". Which only cost 5-10 cents apiece, and are accurate to roughly +/- 0.5. As long as you're in the 6-7 range, you're probably fine, esp if you're using coco coir, which is very mildly acidic. Theyre easy to use ... just dip, wait 30 sec, then look up the color pattern of the 4 tiny reagent pads to get the result.
Amazon sells them in packs of 100 for $5-12 or so, depending on brand.
we are growing with soil and wondering if the liquid fertilizer (Ocean Solution) you use, would be a good option to use for a soil based growing medium? thanks a bunch, we appreciate ur videos :)
Just started looking at your videos and its gold mine of information if you want to start your micro green journey. I am from Ontario, Canada and it's hard to find the same products here but would appreciate if you can suggest alternative to Ocean solution liquid fertilizer. This would really help me to build my own set at home. BTW, keep up the good work :)
anmol talwar greetings from Moncton, New Brunswick!
Could you adjust PH with Apple cider vinegar? or would that introduce other unwanted things
Just what I needed as to what nutrients and PH is needed....does adding nutrients also help to grow more difficult harvesting seeds? and a general question...I am getting more serious as a grower, should I transition from window light to the whole rack and grow lights for constant stable results? I really like your setup in your videos and those greens look totally amazing..
Thank you Nater_Gamer 879 for the compliment! 😄 Please visit www.onthegrow.net and look for the sign up for the Microgreens Master Book...there's a Bonus BluePrint section about the trailer and other layout info!!!
You need a five gallon paint paddle to stir your water.
Can you please advise me how to mix the antifungal H2O2?
My concern about seeagri and ocean solution is that it contains all the minerals and metals including lead aluminium and arsenic
Using it and eating the product on a daily basis concerns me with long term health issues
I’m just starting to grow only for my own family and have been considering this and am rely stuck on if I should use it or not
What is the verdict of people using these sea minerals on microgreens and have have you done any real research
Thanks for your videos they are amazing and I love what you guys are doing
Peace
Where can I get some of those tray from? Is there a link for an online store?
You need a Paint Stir Stick 12" to 14" long. They are cheap, and you may get a few free by asking for them at your nearest paint store, they may give you the 12" ones instead but hey it's free.
Would food grade or USP grade citric acid powder work as a substitute for pH down solution?
Hi
How do you filter chlorin and fluor ? What do you use? Berkey coal filter?
We have a Berkeley water filter in our home that we love, but in this space we use a different single stage filter that is hooked up to the bottom of our sink! We will be upgrading it to a multi stage filter next year most likely!
Great video! Just curious...I always thought you had to pH the water before you add the nutrients. As I understand it the nutrients will not dilute well with the water if the pH is incorrect to start with.
🙂Mike L Have you signed up for our Master Class yet? Please get ready to take advantage of all the information we've assembled for you!!! Hopefully that will clear things up.
Great video! My question is would a microgreen grow work well using 1000 watt hps ?
Thank you and great question! You could grow with that, but I would use that to grow an entire rack most likely. It is a bit overkill for microgreens which don’t need a lot of light. They would probably love it though!
Hey guys big fan of your channel. Just curious do you know if that ocean solution can be bought local? thanks
Thank you so much for the support Jody Sephus!! We are going to be making new content soon! 😄 Have'nt found it...Try their product support...maybe it can be ordered direct.
What about electro conductivity (EC) of your solution ? Which level do you use ?
Do you add Cal or Mag at any point? Also, won't different plants like different PH or are microgreens all pretty similar?
We don't add Cal or Mag anymore... We used to add some epsom to it, but we noticed that it may have been negatively effecting germination on some of the crops.
Plants do prefer different pH and temperature/light/etc... but we have found that most do really well when the pH is between the 5.5-6.0 range. It keeps it simple for watering.
Is PH up and down solution bad for the soil? I heard it hurts plants in soil.
Hey! Quick question. When watering the seeds during germination, do you supply the seeds with the nutrient water or regular filtered water? When do you begin using the nutrient water? Thanks a ton you guys are full of knowledge and super helpful. Glad you are putting out so much positive energy to the world.
Thank you so much for the support and kind words! We usually just mist them with regular water during the germination process. Once the roots are developed enough and the plants are slightly bigger we will introduce nutrients. It is usually around the time they are about to go in the light... So depending on the crop variety it's around days 3 to 6. Thank you again for the support!
What’s your PPM for ocean solution once mixed?
Great video guys! I assume that you usually check the ppm cause you have the meter, but you didn't show it on the video. How many ppm do you usually aim for after putting in the nutrients? Is it RO water?... most of the recommended concentrations on the back of nutrient bottles are done taking into account that people are using water with 0ppm to begin with. Some filters might not reduce the ppm of your tap water that much, and if your water is pretty hard to begin with, the recommended dosis of nutrients would have to be reduced :P
I was waiting for someone to ask about that :P
Yeah, it totally slipped my mind while doing this video to show the PPM. So we do not use RO water because of how inefficient the process is... It really creates a lot of waste water so we opted for a simple filtration system that is hooked up to our triple sink. You are correct and our PPM out of the filter is usually around 300-400ppm and after we add nutrients, we are around the 900-1200 mark usually. We also use a lot of different nutrients so we haven't had the time to really sit down and dial dosages in yet... We will be playing with PPM experiments soon hopefully! Thank you for the support!! It really means a lot to us!
@@OnTheGrow Nice of you to take the time to answer every comment, keep up the good work!
Thank you! We do our best!
CJ, have you experimented with any natural/organic PH adjustments?
Most pH down solutions are natural! They are primarily minerals extracted from the earth and then mixed with water. So they are natural, but because of rules around “organic”, they can’t be considered “organic”. They are “of the earth”. We will try experimenting with some more types in the future maybe!
On The Grow
Hey, by the way, your pH meter will last many times longer, if you rinse the sensor off in de-ionized water and dry in between uses.
I have been using filtered organic lemon juice and it seems to work well. For my filtered well water it takes 1 Tbsp. per gallon to get the PH down to 5.8.
Hi! How many ounces per gallon of water if I’m using Maxigrow instead of ocean solution?
I’m pretty sure it’s 1/2tsp per gallon with MaxiGro! Double check the measurements on the back for suggested dosage and use the minimum for micros!
Wow! there are a lot of things need to do on making some nutrients.
It seems like a lot when you first get started, but really it happens very quickly after you've got the hang of it. We can make a nutrient reservoir in about a minute or less. We just did it really slow for this video...
@@OnTheGrow Looking for more videos. Thank you very much.
Very well done and appreciated! Check out the free spreadsheet "Bru'n Water" sometime as it gives pH ml recommendations and is pretty darn accurate. I use it for brewing but it could save you some trial and error time down the road. Thanks again guys!
2 questions do you sell your microgreens and secondly do you at any point during your watering process use just water
🙂Thank you for watching Steve Kocinski!!! 😄 We do get a chance to only supply water...nutrients help some delicate crops is all!!
So far as just selling our microgreens...not for now ...we're having too much fin cooking with them for our cookbook!!!
Squirty thing is called a pipette !
Lol 😂 thank you! It completely evaded me while trying to remember!
Hey this is smittyandsonurbanfarm and just wanted to drop a woohoo on ya for this video, I love watching beginner videos and hope you guys would make a few more for those of us just getting started. beautiful crop of carrots btw, am planning on trying these for myself.
Thank you so much for the support! We will work on quite a few more of these! Thank you for letting us know that it is something you are looking to see more of so we know where to focus future videos! Thanks again for the support, it means a lot to us!
Are there any powder nutrients that dissolve in water rather than a liquid approach?
Yes! There are actually quite a few out there. We have used some such as MaxiGro, MasterBlend, Sea-90 and more. Search your local hydroponic shop for water soluble nutrients! 🤗🌱🌱
Oh, and is it normal to check the "babies" every 30 min. once under the lights??? I am having so much fun!!!
Hi guys, I put one teaspoon of maxigrow I bought from your amazon link into 1 gallon of distilled water. It took the pH from a nice 5.8 to about 3.8! Is that normal? Now I need to by pH up and down unless I can use my pool ph up and down chemicals.
Yeah, some hydroponic solutions will change the pH of the water. There are natural ways to change the pH such and lemons/baking soda/vinegar/egg shells. If you need to raise it, do a very, very small amount of baking soda. Like less than a pinch. Too much baking soda will add too much sodium, and it really doesn’t take a lot to raise the pH.
Hope that helps 🤗🌱🌱
I believe the "squirty device" is called a "pipette"
Hey guys! I've watched a lot of your videos, and I have a lot of notes saved on my whatsapp conversation with myself hahaha
I have an question (maybe a stupid one): I pretend to test and use the Spagnum Jiffy, they say that the Ph is around 5.5 ~ 6.0, and the EC is 0,40 mS/cm
I could use only the filtered water? If so, there is the need to verify everyday the Ph from that filtered water? Sounds confusing to me haha
Thanks so much for all the content! Much love!
About companies, here I have BioBizz, General Hydroponics and Advanced Nutrients.
Completely lost in all of this.
Is the PH needs different for each microgreen? I would assume yes, as I know each plant is different but I’m new to the microgreens
Great question Kimberly! We have noticed that basically everything does well with the 5.5-6.0 pH range for water, especially when we add fertilizer to the water. We've grown probably 50 different varieties with that pH and all have been successful. That's not to say that some may do slightly better with more acidic or more basic. If we we any trouble with a crop, we will start playing with factors like pH to see if we can get better growth... Hope that helps!
@@OnTheGrow thanks, love ur channel! 🌱💕
what is the EC or ppm of the final solution?
Depends on the water source… our PPM starts around 500 and ends up around 1000 after adding the nutrients from the last time I checked. Changes throughout the year as the water source changes… hope that helps!
Super helpful video! How would you assess the benefit of using nutrient-added water from day 3 on vs. using only PH balanced water from start to finish? Does it impact yield, taste, or some other crop health metric? You might consider doing a control test video. I sure would be interested. I'm using your videos to learn myself and to train staff in 2 grow rooms on 2 different continents at the same time. Thanks for the knowledge!
Thank you for the support! We have done plenty of experiments with pH balanced water versus Nutrient water, and adding the right nutrients always increases the crops appearance, growth, taste and yields.
@@OnTheGrow I tracked down the
Floragrow vs PH balanced water comparison video right after I commented. Exactly what I was looking for! Top tier content!
how much of a 5% acid white vinegar would one need to a liter of 8 ph water into a 5.5-6ph thing of water?
i already asked in a chemistry discord and no one knew the answer😓
It depends on your water. Even if the pH is 8.0, the composition of minerals varies compared the the composition of minerals in my local water.
Get a cheap pH testing kit if you can and just start to work your way down slowly. Like 1mL at a time
For example, ours takes three milliliters of phosphoric acid to bring ours down from 8.0 to the 5.7range
I did a set up exactly like yours from your store on amazon. It is my thank you for the best delivery of content on youtube in my opinion. You both are genuine and unpretentious which is lovely. Thank you so very much for your help and wisdom in these difficult times for the world but especially for Americans who are not used to their liberties being taken away. This gives us something we can value and move forward on even if out of work so again, thank you. Still out of work here in California and pretty frustrated since we have ZERO cases at the local hospital here near Sacramento. Great Gov... or not. All the best to you both!!!
ALSO, those extra shelves are $45 each here so... I bought an extra shelving unit and will have so many extra parts and shelves for only the price of roughly 1.5 more shelves...which I would need anyway if I keep going. I have an empty bedroom with new carpet...is this a mistake? LOL!! No worries, my family will be healthy~
my ppm is around 180 in austin...does the water ppm matter if my micros are getting their nutrients from soil?
PPM doesn't really tell you anything, just how much "stuff" is in your water. That "stuff" could be beneficial, like trace minerals, or it could be detrimental, like fluoride. You'll still want to use the nutrients, but if you want to know more about what is in your tap water, your free city water report will tell you that information, no need to test it on your own.
Tom did a pretty great job of explaining that! This is the filter that we use and it has done an incredible job! www.amazon.com/dp/B000923524/?tag=aiponsite-20&linkCode=ic5&ascsubtag=amzn1.infl.us.product&creativeASIN=B000923524&ref=exp_onthegrowfarms_dp_vv_d
It was also really easy to setup and didn't mess with the flow-rate of our water. We use ours to reduce the fluoride in our city water... Personally, I always like to have some kind of filter to reduce the fluoride in water, even when watering our outdoor crops!
Squirty device - pipette
Lol thank you!
You need a stir stick
Two quick questions... what filter have you found works best to remove chlorine and, would this same watering and nutrient process work with plant starts in soil before transplanting? Thank you for you awesome vids and willingness to share!
Thank you so much for the support! We've been using this filter and it has provided us with some really solid results: www.amazon.com/dp/B000923524/?tag=aiponsite-20&linkCode=ic5&ascsubtag=amzn1.infl.us.product&creativeASIN=B000923524&ref=exp_onthegrowfarms_dp_vv_d
At our previous house, we used a bigger 3-stage water filtration system and this little filter seems to do just as well as it did.
I think that this would absolutely help with starts! Just make sure with plant starts that you aren't stretching them like you would microgreens.
what was the ppm on the bucket
I cannot remember on this video exactly, but usually our PPM is around 1200 with nutrients added. Our tap water is about 400-600ppm out of the filter. Hope that helps!
bruh .... I have watched so many videos on ur channel .... I just need one info and then I can start as well (just so that I do not start from 0) ok: AFTER the germination is done and you put them under the light: how often do you water the trays untill u harvest them ? 2 times per day ? a cup of solution per day .... hose it down once per day and let the water drain ?
P.S. ok ..... I got a bit ahead of myself .... at about 11:00 you mentioned watering .... I need some more patience lol, tnx mate.
Thanks for watching! We do about 1 cup of water twice a day, as needed! sometimes you may not need as much water due to higher humidity, whether or not you have fans, things like that! Best of luck to you! Can't wait to hear how it turns out xandru8! Let us know if you have any questions!! and post your crop pictures!
@@OnTheGrow I am literally just starting out because of videos like yours .... I know there is the side business of the microgreens growing but, besides the " i started this and got this much money in a week / month, and all this with just a few initial thousands of dollars invested initially ..... ( MTF I DON´T HAVE A FEW THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS TO INVEST INITIALLY .... If I had them I would already been doing it) " videos, there is not a lot of people showing the behind the scenes part of growing like in a few of your videos. (sorry for the long rant and again my point, tnx for answering and for showing the behind the scenes as well)
Honestly, we don't believe a lot of money is needed to start a business. Choose 3 to 4 varieties you love to grow and use and talk about. Set up a Grow rack made of whatever you have on hand at first! Find people to sell to! Give away a few samples to get them hooked! Figure out a schedule for growing and delivering! Really, starting smaller and growing your business as you learn is better for people new to this business. You do not want to promise orders you cannot deliver! so take your time and love what you do! Best of luck to you! 😀 xandru8 Again...we really benefit from your support and nice compliments!!! Have you visited our newest website...
www.onthegrow.net ...we are so proud of the help it provides!!!
@@OnTheGrow yeah mate, already downloaded the grow cheat sheet, email notifications but unfortunately I can not buy any merch at the moment, sorry. There are SO many questions .... oh well, keep up the great work and hopefully if I have more questions I can still ask you guys.
Just keep Be-Leafing ,friend! You got this! We are honestly just so excited to help people learn!😊 Be sure to send us pictures of your success!
I want that ph pen.... I would ph test everything
Lol, when I got it, I tested basically everything. It was a lot of fun, no lie :)
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Since micro greens are only on this earth for a maximum of about three weeks, I don’t want to bother with pH or EC or ppm And everything seems to grow just fine.
We like to because we get better results when we do.
dont U raise the ph every time you add water from the sink
Yes, but it is quite minor. We use it to mix and it doesn’t raise it much from that process
Damn plant is like babies minus crying and pooping. My pea shoot is starting to get thin brown color on the leaves. I'll just cut them today and eat it
Sounds like the start of damping off, check out this blog we did on damping off www.onthegrow.net/post/what-is-damping-off-how-it-affects-microgreens-and-how-to-prevent-it
If the roots are constantly underwater doesn't that kill the plants don't they end up overwatered
When using COCO , is liquid fertilizer required?
Great Question! It is not required, but we have noticed in all of our tests that it makes the growth faster and can effect the flavor and appearance positively as well. It will grow fine without it though...
you should be teaching people to let the water sit for 24 to 48 hours before mixing to allow chlorine to evaporate out of water
Pipette is what that's called
My local ACE Hardware doesn't carry that bucket
🙂Check with local restaurant suppliers and ask about their source for them...most have them.
Why don't you guys use humic acid? It's organic and you don't have to use pH reducer like literal acid
Great suggestion! We will see about trying it! 🤗🌱🌱
Btw - I also use apple cider vinegar when my humic acid gets over just a tip :)
You can even just call it a dropper.
Thank you for watching Lynnette Roodt!!! 😄 Glad you enjoyed it! Sometimes we practice our wording and talk thru the material and sometimes your brain just gets stuck!!! Have Fun!!!
The Amaranth prefers to dry out a little...
In our experience, Yes! Not sure if this is a question or a comment, but I'll do my best to address it. In our space, we've found that we have to water amaranth significantly less... Anytime that we've kept our amaranth saturated for the entire duration of the grow, we get dampen off. So, we water a lot less because of that and the medium will dry out a little... So, in our space, we get the best results when growing it by letting it dry out a little. Hope that helps!
@@OnTheGrow I had found that to be true as well, was just emphasizing that little nugget of knowledge, which you mention at some point in the vid.
Amaranth is like the boss battle of microgreens. I've died twice on it but I'm still putting quarters in the machine! I bet a lot of people could use a strategy guide though.
"squirty device" = pipette :)
Pipette
This fellow Would be interesting even if he were just reading the dictionary.
Well thank you so much Mike!