Neil is doing a really good job here because Michio is not answering the question and he keeps prompting and pulling Michio back onto the question. Not the easiest interview!
"A teenager with a quantum computer"...the absurdity!! Not only that he ignores the fact of what type of environment a QC needs to function and how data input works, he also assumes that banks are using password ONLY to login. Coming here to shamelessly plug a book.
Yea this is my second interview watching Michio and it just came to me why I don't prefer him. Everytime he has spoken, at the end I'm thinking "Wait, what did he tell us?" Does anyone learn anything about quantum computing in the two episodes he's talked about it?
As a former IT security professional, I was cringing. What Michio is failing to explain is that business 2 business connections between major corporations buy dedicated blocks of IPs and make an allow list which means B2B traffic only comes from one specific IP to another specific IP. However hackers can spoof the IPs and there's no lockout mechanism because hackers can easily perform failed login attempts, locking the B2B connections and costing each business potentially millions of dollars, completely crippling them, as these connections if there was a failure limit. B2B's, especially banks handle tens of thousands of connections a day. There's no way to keep the B2B connection alive and safe from hackers, while also limiting the amount of failed authentication attempts.
we already have *POST-QUANTUM* cryptographic algorithms, and while quantum computers will be able to smash some 'classical' old public-key algorithms like RSA (eg. using Shor's algorithm) it generally only reduces symmetric ciphers from 512-bit to 256-bit ... 256-bit to 128-bit etc (eg. using Grover's algorithm), so AES is still relatively secure. Quantum computing is not a silver bullet that destroys all cryptography. I really like Michio but a lot of what he says here is simply incorrect and/or ignoring the fact we have post-quantum algorithms that are resistant to quantum computers. To be fair, Michio is a theoretical physicist, not a cryptologist.
I've seen cryptographers talk about quantum security and it's insane, it would work completely different a ciphered message would have different states that collapse and get destroyed when a non correct decryption even try to interact, because the password is actually billions of passwords that exist simultaneously on a quantum state.
@@UCjNrKLyRJI-abFA8qiNo92Q yes that is physical quantum encryption, which is in theory unbreakable, but I think you are confusing it with practical algorithms
That’s too much smoke, they are not politicians. Given the current circumstances, the US could benefit from having a president around 40s and charismatic enough to sell a vision for both red and blue.
Kaku isn't really wrong but I think he either over-generalized of mis-explained some things. 1) Quantum computing can be used to break encryption. This means you could potentially see other people log into their accounts and get their passwords that way. But you CANNOT magically fly past any password screen on anyone's account you want by using quantum computing. As Neil points out, if you get your password wrong 3 times you're locked out and no amount of qubits will unlock your account. 2) But this won't really be a problem anyway. There are many promising encryption methods being developed that cannot be broken by quantum computing. Several of them already appear to work and are all but proven at this point. By the time quantum computers gets powerful enough we will have long since switched encryption methods. So don't worry about your bank password. Really it'll be fine. 3) The real and very scary danger (that Kaku does not mention at all) is that organizations are, RIGHT NOW, recording public internet traffic and storing exabytes of it in archives. They can't read it because it's encrypted, BUT eventually (10 years? 20 years?) they will be able to read it. Who knows what's in there! Any passwords will probably all be useless by then. But emails you sent/received, files you transferred to DropBox, maybe government secrets, literally anything transferred over the public internet today can be stored and de-crypted some years from now.
exactly right... he answers questions as if he is clueless and just rambles how over powered quantum is. simply state the SSL connection is instantly breached by a quantum computer. once that happens its like having a key logger on your computer and someone standing over you memorizing all u r doing.
I'm afraid it is you who misunderstand something. You won't be frozen from three wrong attemtps to enter a password because you can enter any bank account on a first try. Password form is only a facade. You don't think the length of crypto key is equal to your password, do you? Password is just a way to simplify key for humans. You can skip a password form, a login page, a personal account page... skip everything... all you need is to send command to move money to your account and confirm it with a right private key which you can forge by factoring a public key.
So what's the problem with all the past encrypted stuff being unencrypted? Why should we worry about someone gloating over our encrypted stuff. Even now we are all tracked and monitored by our ISP, Social media companies, businesses or anyone that wants to.
@@Max_Jacoby and how would that work? You still need to send the website a password that is then hashed by the website and compared to the stored hash of your password to grand or deny access. Please explain how a quantum computer would be able to brute force the correct password in less than 3 attempts.
You should put a little meter at the bottom of the screen during Chuck’s lovely advertisements. So us viewers are aware how long the ad is (: so when I skip along passed the advertisement I don’t miss any science . Lol. It’s what all the top channels are doing. Just another point of view I guess. Love you Mr. Chuck Nice and Sir Tyson ❤️
I'm really a big fan of both Dr. Michio and Dr. Neil deGrasse! I hope in the near future, you'd be able to do some visits here in the Philippines and be able to teach and discuss more about your ideas. Also, a fun idea, can you also try to review sci-fi games like for example Cyberpunk 2077 and etc. on how close to reality it is or if current or future science advancement can imitate such stuff? I know it's a game but I think it might add more fun yet educating discussions!
I'm been fascinated with quantum computing possibilities for a while now. So thank you for this show. Keep these going every year so we can follow the progress. It reminds me of when, my grandmother born in 1900 and I would sit down and I would show her cell phones and how computers worked. A great leap to the future. I'm sure evil and corrupt orgs. will take advantage but, on the other hand when have they not. I still believe this will help humanity.
Dr tyson, im a cybersecurity professional and i would love participate to give an in-depth problematics and actual use cases of cybersecurity issues related to quantum computers
@@mikotagayuna8494 granted, but that doesn't mean a non-expert would generally be better at explaining something. We just saw Kaku demonstrating a very basic understanding of quantum computing, an expert in the field would have likely provided a better explanation of how exactly quantum computers can affect conventional cryptography.
@@rusher2937 An expert would also be as likely to provide exhaustive explanations that would be difficult for most to understand. Remember that this is a channel for laypeople, not a proper scientific forum. Perhaps you could give your insight on the merits of what Kaku actually said instead of nitpicking his qualifications? Did he say actually say something demonstrably wrong?
The point is: NO COMPUTER can BRUTE FORCE through a password system with a limited number of tries. It's not possible - or rather it's HIGHLY IMPROBABALE. One time I was at military school and I was chasing someone through the barracks. I chased him to his room where we had a 4 digit code lock. I DID NOT KNOW HIS CODE but somehow I entered it on the first try and walked into his room to his surprise. That's like a 1 in a billion chance of getting it right.
But if you can brute force into the backend system without a lockout protocol? Then access the encrypted password file a quantum computer could brute force all that encryption quickly. You theoretically only need one account hacked to get your primer of the encryption algorithm. Or from there your primer snowballs very quickly into a complete Codex.
Simple me thinks “just put lockout mechanisms on the database itself” 🤔 In theory connection requests should never be invalid machine-to-machine (implies it is untested or misconfigured) so could lockout immediately after a failure.
@@andy.robinson attackers get access to the database and usually copy it offline somewhere. they are not actively acting the live database - they are attacking an offline version that they can do whatever they want with.
⏰TIMESTAMPS by [K] 00:00 - Introduction to video and guests. 00:43 - Daniel asks about biggest National Security consideration of quantum computing. 01:26 - Quantum computers break encryption, pose national security threat. 02:02 - Quantum computers factorize large numbers quickly, breaking encryption. 03:05 - Future advancements beyond factorization and implications for security. 04:27 - Discussing how to prevent quantum computers from accessing private information. 05:01 - Quantum computing, money, and control over the world economy. 06:55 - Exploring Michio Kaku's book "Quantum Supremacy" and its impact. 07:37 - Quantum computing's role in solving the climate crisis through models. 08:08 - Limitations of current weather models and the need for precision. 09:07 - Power of quantum computers in manipulating infinitely small data units. 10:17 - Different weather modeling approaches by European and American computers. 11:27 - Potential impact of quantum computing on society and beneficiaries. 12:39 - Initial benefits for the wealthy, future accessibility for the masses. 13:13 - Accessibility of quantum computing through devices like contact lenses. 14:09 - Rapid advancements in quantum computing and future possibilities. GIVE A LIKE AND FOLLOW ✅
I think the bit that was missing in this discussion is the role played by cryptographic keys in the process of maintaining integrity of transactions and data within the banking system. Yes you have a password to log into your internet banking. But behind that is a bunch of algorithms that use cryptographic keys to identify you in downstream activities. Quantum computers could theoretically impersonate valid identities in a transaction and therefore alter transaction data. Say for example changing the target account for a transaction.
The trouble occurs because if a quantum computer can decipher the encryption, it can reveal the 3 way handshake, which include the keys that authenticate that session and allow you decrypt it into plain text. in short... yes they can.
Actually I can answer the very first question as I think I am a computer scientist: Quantum computer, computes all combinations of, a 10 or 16 digits passwords, in parallel (if the password is in binary, only 16 qubits needed) in polynomial time and test them all at once, like it was only 1 combination. The first test is also the right combination. Generally this is not the end of encryption: We will use quantum cryptography and we will keep our information safe. Please correct my thoughts.
When we get neural implants connected to the internet, no one can be held responsible for their own actions. "Your Honor, my brain was hacked!" or "I was offline at the time!"
@@gabor6259 The neural implants could control you entirely, and if they can be accessed remotely you could be hacked. He is assuming a technology much more advanced than you are thinking, but no one would be dumb enough to have the neural implants that control motor function be connected to the internet.
@gabor6259 incorrect. Look up the 'google ledger'. We're in stage 2 of a complete digitization of reality itself, We're beckoning it so strongly that it appears like an 'A.I. takeover' to us. Step one is information collection, on everything and everyone, this is complete since the dawn of the Internet. Step 2 is to merge or 'move in phase', the technology with the biology. First indicated by tech on the body, then tech 'in' the body (nano machines, advanced prosthetics and complete neural synchronisation with software). All promoted for its 'health benefits' due to being stuck in a 'monetary system'. Civilisations that can't move on from nuclear power and corrupt value placement, will never become a type 1 Civilisation. Stage 3 is where technology and biology are indistinguishable, by this point, the speed of calculation is so high that our biological part can be trained back into harmony with its surroundings, we'll stop lying to ourselves altogether, and choose to only inhabit physical bodies 'part of the time', hence we won't need so many of them to overpopulate the earth. We'll be venturing once more on other frequencies of consciousness, we'll actually improve earth's anatomy and function as a whole. Of course, this is if we don't flunk it...
If the brain is an organic computer, and computers can be infected to become part of a botnet, it follows that it is possible to be forced into doing actions if one's Internet-connected brain gets hacked if the interface is sufficiently integrated.
@@silv12 yes it states in the Google ledger that they first want to provide what the consumer needs, then become acquainted with our wants and needs to such a degree that it knows what we want before we do, then it's just a stones throw to nudging our choices through exposure, subliminals and incentive.
Hey guys!! I am such a big fan of all 3 of you guys!!! Talking about quantum computers, what would happen if we were to combine quantum computing with AI technology?
The answer is simple. (Communication) if you have a problem that you need to solve and you ask another for a solution, the time to the solution will be an indicator for intellect. In the case of a quantum computer, it means greater energy consumption when it has to delay its solution by the time it takes a normal computer to arrive at solutions. And if we incorporate simulation problems into the questions, we will learn something more from the impact test.
The main con is that current encryption systems are very often built in hardware... Deploying those new algorithms will be a great logistics nightmare.
Thank you Neil, Chuck, and Team, and Michio. I could never have imagined this future a few years ago. I really appreciate the time and information you share. This one, did creep me out a little. I had just bookmarked, the Bourne Collection, from an unmentionable streaming site. This encouraged me, to make the purchase. But, I had to pause, at 6:40 of the 1st film, due to a severe Lighting Storm Last Night. And I kept thinking of this video, all during the program. Thanks a lot, Chuck, made me laugh at inappropriate times. 🙂
I think the biggest security risk posed by quantum computers is the simple fact how *all of us* increasingly are becoming totally dependent on an online presence to carry out anything at all. Money, identity, just about anything of any import, it's digital and online. I mean, even encryption which is the only sure-fire way of protecting anything online, will cease having any meaning once quantum computers hits the market. It's going to be pandemonium!
Quantum resistant encryption protocols already exist. The enhancements brought by quantum computing will also apply to digital security. Encryption will cease to have meaning? That's 100% false.
@@JunkBondTrader Well. Since most aspects of our identities, ranging from official data and social security numbers, over our existences as economical entities, to our social identities, behaviours and preferences; indeed even our memories to a large extend, is now more or less forced by the circumstances to be stored and handled digitally - I hope you're right. I think you are, in the sense that "The enhancements brought by quantum computing will also apply to digital security." seems quite obvious to me. Applied in some way, at least. But encryption, to the extend of my meager knowledge (which you can the argue is small or large, just please remember to offer the the reasons why you think I'm wrong) is going the way of the dodo once Quantum computers hit the market at average household income affordable prices. It's in how encryption works, I'll just drop that hint at you in hopes you might feel enticed to look it up and thus equip yourself to have an actual debate. So, probably - likely, given the current technology - future data security online is going to involve a lot multistepped verification and no browser ability that remembers your passwords for you. Secure communication? I don't know. Maybe not at all? Maybe narrow and precise delivery of messages by laser light in the atmosphere? If you got this far without your eyes melting - what do you think (beyond that I'm hopelessly wrong for some reason)?
It's sad how many of the comments here worship Kaku. If anyone with some knowledge of the subject ever listens to him for more than 5 minutes, they'd know he's full of it. He even unironically claimed to have done physics while dodging machine gun fire.
lol Tyson is bigger than Kaku, and he has been for a long time. Congrats? lol Tyson is one of the biggest most prominent public figures in science. Also, Kaku is totally clueless about quantum computing, at the very least, in relation to digital security. He didn't even answer the questions, just danced around them with rhetoric because he doesn't have answers. Even though answers do exist. Quantum resistant encryption protocols already exist.
When are we putting Neil and Michio together to discuss the UFO/UAP thing? I believe both of them have different positions on that issue, Neil being a sceptic and Michio being, apparently, more open-minded. 🤔
I didn’t quite heard the answer how, so I figured it out: quantum computer would only use one login attempt and it would be the correct one. It doesn’t need more. Why? Well, your password is stored in database as hashed character string, and yes, it is possible to decode that, but for a regular PC it would take many years to do so, tens and hundreds of years. Quantum computer could solve that hash in a (let’s say) a day. And the answer would be exactly your password. So it does not need more than one attempt. One is enough, and that’s the scariest part. 😊🙀
no, Kaku is totally wrong. Quantum resistant encryption protocols already exist. There's no real threat to digital security in the current state of technology.
@@okaydetar821 We defiantly lock our doors, deadbolts. door chains, lights that come on, convenes the dishonest to go try someplace easier. The saying does have practical implications, It reminds you to try to keep Hornist people Honest by not tempting them with an easy pickings. So far I have never had a home robbery, unfortunately my cars have been hit a number of times.
@@gavinbamber6082 North Van is nice, but for some reason, when you cross over that bridge, drivers just seem to get worse lol. What's with all the crazy bad driving on Marine? hah.
Provided one uses sufficiently large key sizes, the symmetric key cryptographic systems like AES and SNOW 3G are already resistant to attack by a quantum computer.
@@RedSpade37 for symmetric algorithms being broken by Grover's quantum algorithm it only reduces the keysize by half. So a 512-bit key becomes as secure as a 256-bit key, which is still VERY SECURE.
The speed isn't important, because you might have a quantum computer at one end good at hacking, at the other end there will be a quantum computer good at stopping the other one. It will be the same as using 2 commodore 64's. It's not the speed, it's what you do with it.
This is kind like not not being able to see a mountain in front of you because you are too busy looking at your shoes. Computers gets stronger, encryption gets stronger and different and it takes time. Still waiting on my flying car that drives itself and cooks me breakfast while using nothing but free energy etc...
just a p.s for anyone reading , i used to get so upset with tye because he was so skeptical , now i respect him for it which is why he has his title , extraordinary claims require extraodinary evidence , his math and precicision is so honest to the fact i can feel good about , which leaves the abstraction , is there any way we can ever hear tyes abract thoughts and conclusions??
I might be misunderstood and I do not mean to correct anyone. It’s just if you have a quantum computer why wouldn’t you just use that extra quantum to actually map the earth and model the quantum survey? Or are we limited in other ways?
I think the cloud word or term is oversold. The cloud still needs a computer with a hard drive and connected to a plug. Disabling the cloud takes a simple physical act as switching off the plug. How long will it take for the cloud to not depend on power or backup battery?
What Do You Believe Will Be The Biggest Change Brought by Quantum Computers?
People will be able to craft feature films from scratch, using AI to construct shots, compose music, mimic acting, etc...
I thought you were going to tell us
Hopefully, it can take the corruption out of politics. It can rule on an issue and use logic and reason without the greed and back-alley deals.
when AI is integrated with Quantum Computers, we go bye bye.
I wish it would help the world learn how to live together again… but I ain’t hopeful.
Neil is doing a really good job here because Michio is not answering the question and he keeps prompting and pulling Michio back onto the question. Not the easiest interview!
Yeah, all I heard was "quantum computer strong"... 😕 disappointing.
"A teenager with a quantum computer"...the absurdity!! Not only that he ignores the fact of what type of environment a QC needs to function and how data input works, he also assumes that banks are using password ONLY to login. Coming here to shamelessly plug a book.
Yea this is my second interview watching Michio and it just came to me why I don't prefer him. Everytime he has spoken, at the end I'm thinking "Wait, what did he tell us?"
Does anyone learn anything about quantum computing in the two episodes he's talked about it?
@@waitselljones8068 Veratasium does a decent video on it.
As a former IT security professional, I was cringing. What Michio is failing to explain is that business 2 business connections between major corporations buy dedicated blocks of IPs and make an allow list which means B2B traffic only comes from one specific IP to another specific IP. However hackers can spoof the IPs and there's no lockout mechanism because hackers can easily perform failed login attempts, locking the B2B connections and costing each business potentially millions of dollars, completely crippling them, as these connections if there was a failure limit. B2B's, especially banks handle tens of thousands of connections a day. There's no way to keep the B2B connection alive and safe from hackers, while also limiting the amount of failed authentication attempts.
we already have *POST-QUANTUM* cryptographic algorithms, and while quantum computers will be able to smash some 'classical' old public-key algorithms like RSA (eg. using Shor's algorithm) it generally only reduces symmetric ciphers from 512-bit to 256-bit ... 256-bit to 128-bit etc (eg. using Grover's algorithm), so AES is still relatively secure. Quantum computing is not a silver bullet that destroys all cryptography. I really like Michio but a lot of what he says here is simply incorrect and/or ignoring the fact we have post-quantum algorithms that are resistant to quantum computers. To be fair, Michio is a theoretical physicist, not a cryptologist.
I've seen cryptographers talk about quantum security and it's insane, it would work completely different a ciphered message would have different states that collapse and get destroyed when a non correct decryption even try to interact, because the password is actually billions of passwords that exist simultaneously on a quantum state.
@@UCjNrKLyRJI-abFA8qiNo92Q yes that is physical quantum encryption, which is in theory unbreakable, but I think you are confusing it with practical algorithms
Thank you! I was looking for this comment.
It's the death of convenient cryptography. We're gonna have to share our keys by hand for a while.
I don’t know the subject, but I do believe in Michu more than I believe a random self proclaimed expert on the Internet….
I love you guys as you always put a smile on my face, before I go off to sleep.
Good night guys, 🌃
This was so refreshing to listen to ! I love the science education and the laughter ! It doesn't get any better than this ! Big fan here since 2019 .
Neil and Chuck for 2024
Yes
President and Secretary of Chuckles
That’s too much smoke, they are not politicians. Given the current circumstances, the US could benefit from having a president around 40s and charismatic enough to sell a vision for both red and blue.
@@bjojosimpson Dya think? Thanks, man, for a moment there I really thought it was a good Idea
What is your platform because I'm intrigued!
Kaku isn't really wrong but I think he either over-generalized of mis-explained some things. 1) Quantum computing can be used to break encryption. This means you could potentially see other people log into their accounts and get their passwords that way. But you CANNOT magically fly past any password screen on anyone's account you want by using quantum computing. As Neil points out, if you get your password wrong 3 times you're locked out and no amount of qubits will unlock your account. 2) But this won't really be a problem anyway. There are many promising encryption methods being developed that cannot be broken by quantum computing. Several of them already appear to work and are all but proven at this point. By the time quantum computers gets powerful enough we will have long since switched encryption methods. So don't worry about your bank password. Really it'll be fine. 3) The real and very scary danger (that Kaku does not mention at all) is that organizations are, RIGHT NOW, recording public internet traffic and storing exabytes of it in archives. They can't read it because it's encrypted, BUT eventually (10 years? 20 years?) they will be able to read it. Who knows what's in there! Any passwords will probably all be useless by then. But emails you sent/received, files you transferred to DropBox, maybe government secrets, literally anything transferred over the public internet today can be stored and de-crypted some years from now.
exactly right... he answers questions as if he is clueless and just rambles how over powered quantum is. simply state the SSL connection is instantly breached by a quantum computer. once that happens its like having a key logger on your computer and someone standing over you memorizing all u r doing.
I'm afraid it is you who misunderstand something. You won't be frozen from three wrong attemtps to enter a password because you can enter any bank account on a first try. Password form is only a facade. You don't think the length of crypto key is equal to your password, do you? Password is just a way to simplify key for humans. You can skip a password form, a login page, a personal account page... skip everything... all you need is to send command to move money to your account and confirm it with a right private key which you can forge by factoring a public key.
So what's the problem with all the past encrypted stuff being unencrypted? Why should we worry about someone gloating over our encrypted stuff. Even now we are all tracked and monitored by our ISP, Social media companies, businesses or anyone that wants to.
lol the comments... all that is needed to be said is "clear txt" no other words are needed.
@@Max_Jacoby and how would that work? You still need to send the website a password that is then hashed by the website and compared to the stored hash of your password to grand or deny access.
Please explain how a quantum computer would be able to brute force the correct password in less than 3 attempts.
Love you guys and this show with all I have. Could never thank you enough for Star Talk
You should put a little meter at the bottom of the screen during Chuck’s lovely advertisements. So us viewers are aware how long the ad is (: so when I skip along passed the advertisement I don’t miss any science . Lol. It’s what all the top channels are doing. Just another point of view I guess. Love you Mr. Chuck Nice and Sir Tyson ❤️
Chuck stole the show in NY this weekend. Thanks for laughs. Love this show, love chuck, love science. Y’all the best 🎉
I'm really a big fan of both Dr. Michio and Dr. Neil deGrasse! I hope in the near future, you'd be able to do some visits here in the Philippines and be able to teach and discuss more about your ideas.
Also, a fun idea, can you also try to review sci-fi games like for example Cyberpunk 2077 and etc. on how close to reality it is or if current or future science advancement can imitate such stuff? I know it's a game but I think it might add more fun yet educating discussions!
Chuck! Loving the Ad video you made, good framing and your outfit is sharp
I would listen to these two talk about anything. 🥰🥰
When technology is absurdly taken out of context I start to ...never mind. Congratulations on the show guys.
Neil’s laugh makes these just that much better
Always a good one thx Neil and Mitch and chuck
I'm been fascinated with quantum computing possibilities for a while now. So thank you for this show. Keep these going every year so we can follow the progress. It reminds me of when, my grandmother born in 1900 and I would sit down and I would show her cell phones and how computers worked. A great leap to the future. I'm sure evil and corrupt orgs. will take advantage but, on the other hand when have they not. I still believe this will help humanity.
2 of the best guys in history in one place😁 Can't go wrong with that👍
3
Except for chuck that is a 0 to the left
Your videos are some of the best content on UA-cam.
thats right lil buddy 😊
Dr tyson, im a cybersecurity professional and i would love participate to give an in-depth problematics and actual use cases of cybersecurity issues related to quantum computers
Did you need to get a comp.sci degree to be a cyber.sec expert
This is the greatest thing online !
Neil usually has top experts on to discuss a topic that they are expert in. Today he has Michio Kaku.
That phrasing indicates kaku is not at the top of the thing he is known for.
@@linyenchin6773 not exactly, it implies (correctly) that Kaku is not an expert on quantum computing / cryptography.
That could well be a blessing in disguise. Being an expert in something does not necessarily mean you are good in explaining what you know.
@@mikotagayuna8494 granted, but that doesn't mean a non-expert would generally be better at explaining something.
We just saw Kaku demonstrating a very basic understanding of quantum computing, an expert in the field would have likely provided a better explanation of how exactly quantum computers can affect conventional cryptography.
@@rusher2937 An expert would also be as likely to provide exhaustive explanations that would be difficult for most to understand. Remember that this is a channel for laypeople, not a proper scientific forum.
Perhaps you could give your insight on the merits of what Kaku actually said instead of nitpicking his qualifications? Did he say actually say something demonstrably wrong?
Two of my favorite really smart people.
The point is: NO COMPUTER can BRUTE FORCE through a password system with a limited number of tries. It's not possible - or rather it's HIGHLY IMPROBABALE.
One time I was at military school and I was chasing someone through the barracks. I chased him to his room where we had a 4 digit code lock. I DID NOT KNOW HIS CODE but somehow I entered it on the first try and walked into his room to his surprise. That's like a 1 in a billion chance of getting it right.
More like one in 10,000
But if you can brute force into the backend system without a lockout protocol? Then access the encrypted password file a quantum computer could brute force all that encryption quickly. You theoretically only need one account hacked to get your primer of the encryption algorithm. Or from there your primer snowballs very quickly into a complete Codex.
Hackers usually are able to access the database directly. They don't go through the customer login portals us normals go through
Simple me thinks “just put lockout mechanisms on the database itself” 🤔 In theory connection requests should never be invalid machine-to-machine (implies it is untested or misconfigured) so could lockout immediately after a failure.
@@andy.robinson attackers get access to the database and usually copy it offline somewhere. they are not actively acting the live database - they are attacking an offline version that they can do whatever they want with.
⏰TIMESTAMPS by [K]
00:00 - Introduction to video and guests.
00:43 - Daniel asks about biggest National Security consideration of quantum computing.
01:26 - Quantum computers break encryption, pose national security threat.
02:02 - Quantum computers factorize large numbers quickly, breaking encryption.
03:05 - Future advancements beyond factorization and implications for security.
04:27 - Discussing how to prevent quantum computers from accessing private information.
05:01 - Quantum computing, money, and control over the world economy.
06:55 - Exploring Michio Kaku's book "Quantum Supremacy" and its impact.
07:37 - Quantum computing's role in solving the climate crisis through models.
08:08 - Limitations of current weather models and the need for precision.
09:07 - Power of quantum computers in manipulating infinitely small data units.
10:17 - Different weather modeling approaches by European and American computers.
11:27 - Potential impact of quantum computing on society and beneficiaries.
12:39 - Initial benefits for the wealthy, future accessibility for the masses.
13:13 - Accessibility of quantum computing through devices like contact lenses.
14:09 - Rapid advancements in quantum computing and future possibilities.
GIVE A LIKE AND FOLLOW ✅
You forgot the AG1 add.
Wow is this a useful bot or an actual person
Alright. Will try to get a patreon and Dr. Kaku's book before or after I depart my current gig. I'll need things to occupy all the free time I have.
Neil and Chuck ask great questions.
Love startalk and subscribed. Cheers From California 😊
Great tag team.
The questions were spot on, especially that last one 😅 bc most of us watching are like that sounds awesome! When can I get one?
the answers, however, were meaningless.
@@JunkBondTrader to what?
4:08 - absolute gold...
Glad to hear that im not the only one who forget
speaking of northern canada i live in kuujjuaq,Quebec which isnt that far from the arctic circle, might not be rez but its the inuk life
Great program!
More of this guy. You go big, he goes small. It's the perfect combo.
Just noticed Starry Night behind you NDT. My favorite painting. Thank you for your service. Has it been there all along and I just noticed it now?
Love when Neil and Michio collaborate. True genius on display.
Love your content.
Could do without the infomercial in the middle selling me something I don't want.🙂✌️
I think the bit that was missing in this discussion is the role played by cryptographic keys in the process of maintaining integrity of transactions and data within the banking system. Yes you have a password to log into your internet banking. But behind that is a bunch of algorithms that use cryptographic keys to identify you in downstream activities. Quantum computers could theoretically impersonate valid identities in a transaction and therefore alter transaction data. Say for example changing the target account for a transaction.
no, they can't.
The trouble occurs because if a quantum computer can decipher the encryption, it can reveal the 3 way handshake, which include the keys that authenticate that session and allow you decrypt it into plain text.
in short... yes they can.
"with a gun!' Professor Kaku is hard!
Thanks!
New intro is smoothing and not spooky sounding
Actually I can answer the very first question as I think I am a computer scientist:
Quantum computer, computes all combinations of, a 10 or 16 digits passwords, in parallel (if the password is in binary, only 16 qubits needed) in polynomial time and test them all at once, like it was only 1 combination. The first test is also the right combination.
Generally this is not the end of encryption: We will use quantum cryptography and we will keep our information safe.
Please correct my thoughts.
Nice talk
Chuck is operating on anotha level 😂😂😂 I'm here for it!
“With a gun…” great response 😂😂😂
When we get neural implants connected to the internet, no one can be held responsible for their own actions. "Your Honor, my brain was hacked!" or "I was offline at the time!"
That's not how it would work. The internet lets you access information but doesn't force you to do anything.
@@gabor6259 The neural implants could control you entirely, and if they can be accessed remotely you could be hacked. He is assuming a technology much more advanced than you are thinking, but no one would be dumb enough to have the neural implants that control motor function be connected to the internet.
@gabor6259 incorrect. Look up the 'google ledger'.
We're in stage 2 of a complete digitization of reality itself, We're beckoning it so strongly that it appears like an 'A.I. takeover' to us.
Step one is information collection, on everything and everyone, this is complete since the dawn of the Internet.
Step 2 is to merge or 'move in phase', the technology with the biology. First indicated by tech on the body, then tech 'in' the body (nano machines, advanced prosthetics and complete neural synchronisation with software). All promoted for its 'health benefits' due to being stuck in a 'monetary system'. Civilisations that can't move on from nuclear power and corrupt value placement, will never become a type 1 Civilisation.
Stage 3 is where technology and biology are indistinguishable, by this point, the speed of calculation is so high that our biological part can be trained back into harmony with its surroundings, we'll stop lying to ourselves altogether, and choose to only inhabit physical bodies 'part of the time', hence we won't need so many of them to overpopulate the earth. We'll be venturing once more on other frequencies of consciousness, we'll actually improve earth's anatomy and function as a whole.
Of course, this is if we don't flunk it...
If the brain is an organic computer, and computers can be infected to become part of a botnet, it follows that it is possible to be forced into doing actions if one's Internet-connected brain gets hacked if the interface is sufficiently integrated.
@@silv12 yes it states in the Google ledger that they first want to provide what the consumer needs, then become acquainted with our wants and needs to such a degree that it knows what we want before we do, then it's just a stones throw to nudging our choices through exposure, subliminals and incentive.
Great show!
Hey guys!! I am such a big fan of all 3 of you guys!!! Talking about quantum computers, what would happen if we were to combine quantum computing with AI technology?
The answer is simple. (Communication) if you have a problem that you need to solve and you ask another for a solution, the time to the solution will be an indicator for intellect. In the case of a quantum computer, it means greater energy consumption when it has to delay its solution by the time it takes a normal computer to arrive at solutions. And if we incorporate simulation problems into the questions, we will learn something more from the impact test.
Kaku just danced around the questions he couldn't answer, as if he's answering the question. Why not just say, "I don't know"?
Thought I was the only one who noticed it.
If u have patreons, why run adds ?
Tks.guys.
“With a gun” I’m dying over here 😂😂😂
Wow I need to see the whole show, still gonna post it? Or it already happened? Thanks
Already shown. Scroll through the youtube videos for a month or two back.
@@gavinbamber6082 thanks sir
Can you speak about Altered Carbon and quantum computing?
I'm surprised there was no mention of quantum resistant cryptography like CRYSTALS-Kyber. Would love to hear the pros/cons of the new algorithms.
The main con is that current encryption systems are very often built in hardware... Deploying those new algorithms will be a great logistics nightmare.
thank you )
Startalk!!! " Jim Carrey face, salute " .
North vancouver is literally just a Burrough in Vancouver and it barely.gets.cold even in winter lmfao
That one was weird. Neil has been to Vancouver, so why he answered my comment that way was odd!
Yo guys are hilarious. I love it!
Where can I watch the rest of this / do I have to pay for that knowledge?
Another day to learn
Thank you Neil, Chuck, and Team, and Michio. I could never have imagined this future a few years ago. I really appreciate the time and information you share. This one, did creep me out a little. I had just bookmarked, the Bourne Collection, from an unmentionable streaming site. This encouraged me, to make the purchase. But, I had to pause, at 6:40 of the 1st film, due to a severe Lighting Storm Last Night. And I kept thinking of this video, all during the program. Thanks a lot, Chuck, made me laugh at inappropriate times. 🙂
I think the biggest security risk posed by quantum computers is the simple fact how *all of us* increasingly are becoming totally dependent on an online presence to carry out anything at all. Money, identity, just about anything of any import, it's digital and online. I mean, even encryption which is the only sure-fire way of protecting anything online, will cease having any meaning once quantum computers hits the market. It's going to be pandemonium!
Quantum resistant encryption protocols already exist. The enhancements brought by quantum computing will also apply to digital security. Encryption will cease to have meaning? That's 100% false.
@@JunkBondTrader Well. Since most aspects of our identities, ranging from official data and social security numbers, over our existences as economical entities, to our social identities, behaviours and preferences; indeed even our memories to a large extend, is now more or less forced by the circumstances to be stored and handled digitally - I hope you're right. I think you are, in the sense that "The enhancements brought by quantum computing will also apply to digital security." seems quite obvious to me. Applied in some way, at least. But encryption, to the extend of my meager knowledge (which you can the argue is small or large, just please remember to offer the the reasons why you think I'm wrong) is going the way of the dodo once Quantum computers hit the market at average household income affordable prices. It's in how encryption works, I'll just drop that hint at you in hopes you might feel enticed to look it up and thus equip yourself to have an actual debate.
So, probably - likely, given the current technology - future data security online is going to involve a lot multistepped verification and no browser ability that remembers your passwords for you. Secure communication? I don't know. Maybe not at all? Maybe narrow and precise delivery of messages by laser light in the atmosphere? If you got this far without your eyes melting - what do you think (beyond that I'm hopelessly wrong for some reason)?
3:55 saving this for later
I love you all. You are my men...
The answer to solving the factorization problem is to convert to a symbol like characterization like what we see with hieroglyphics.
Something tells me that, Michio isn't getting the pop culture references and jokes.
Let the man speak!!!
Fascinating, enlightening, scary, ...
Michio Kaku is the Elizabeth Holmes of theoretical physics
thanks. gave me a chuckle
Kaku is kak! Pathetic cuckoo!🤣
It's sad how many of the comments here worship Kaku. If anyone with some knowledge of the subject ever listens to him for more than 5 minutes, they'd know he's full of it. He even unironically claimed to have done physics while dodging machine gun fire.
@@TheSingularity8 wait, I’ve gotta hear more 😹 when did he say that about dodging machine gun fire?
@@1ron0xide ua-cam.com/video/IfvoBlDUrPU/v-deo.html
oh my god how did you get michio kaku, that's insane, congrats
Michio is getting old. He is 76
lol Tyson is bigger than Kaku, and he has been for a long time. Congrats? lol Tyson is one of the biggest most prominent public figures in science. Also, Kaku is totally clueless about quantum computing, at the very least, in relation to digital security. He didn't even answer the questions, just danced around them with rhetoric because he doesn't have answers. Even though answers do exist. Quantum resistant encryption protocols already exist.
When are we putting Neil and Michio together to discuss the UFO/UAP thing? I believe both of them have different positions on that issue, Neil being a sceptic and Michio being, apparently, more open-minded. 🤔
Professor maximum speak TRUE,
How Are you Boss
Hi Neil. I have a question. If Chuck could chuck wood, how much wood could Chuck chuck?
But could Chuck chuck Chuck Norris?
As much wood as Chuck could chuck if Chuck could chuck wood.
love the Dune quote
I didn’t quite heard the answer how, so I figured it out: quantum computer would only use one login attempt and it would be the correct one. It doesn’t need more. Why? Well, your password is stored in database as hashed character string, and yes, it is possible to decode that, but for a regular PC it would take many years to do so, tens and hundreds of years. Quantum computer could solve that hash in a (let’s say) a day. And the answer would be exactly your password. So it does not need more than one attempt. One is enough, and that’s the scariest part. 😊🙀
password is the key to the door of your bank account, a Q-computer doesn't open that door, it brakes the whole building down.
no, Kaku is totally wrong. Quantum resistant encryption protocols already exist. There's no real threat to digital security in the current state of technology.
@@JunkBondTrader bro you know more than him?
@@JunkBondTrader he made a partical accelerator when he was in highschool
Do a video talking about fractals in the universe
My Dad always said that a locked door only keeps an Honest Man, Honest.
Which means no man is honest.
And so neither of you locked/lock your doors at night now? Or is that just a really bad saying with no practical implications?
@@okaydetar821 We defiantly lock our doors, deadbolts. door chains, lights that come on, convenes the dishonest to go try someplace easier. The saying does have practical implications, It reminds you to try to keep Hornist people Honest by not tempting them with an easy pickings. So far I have never had a home robbery, unfortunately my cars have been hit a number of times.
@@morbidmanmusic I just try not to tempt them, everone has some weakness.
I read "Quantum Supremacy". It's a good book, but I could narrow everything he said down to one page.
Ok then, give us the synopsis, please
@@henryknepp name a scenario, it can be solved with quantum computers. That's the premise of the entire book.
@@deucedaprodeuca Question - '?'
Answer - 'Jesus'
- the bible
@@toolbaggers you need to read Thomas Paine "Age of Reason" and not that bs book of fables.
WOW only 10 yrs lol. That is insane. I had no idea.
North Vancouver. Just on the other side of Lions Gate Bridge which passes through Stanley Park. Beautiful
I will try to get another question comment to harass Neil's answer to my North Vancouver comment.
Whenever you say he’s a friend and a professor of physics, it seems like you’re saying he’s a friend of physics and a professor of physics 🤣
Hey I'm Canadian from the east coast and we get days in the summertime where it's like 45° Celsius and then in the wintertime -30 Celsius.
Yup... Neil misrepresented my North Vancouver comment! lol
@@gavinbamber6082 North Van is nice, but for some reason, when you cross over that bridge, drivers just seem to get worse lol. What's with all the crazy bad driving on Marine? hah.
Thank you Neil chuck and Kaku for your guys contribution to science
Provided one uses sufficiently large key sizes, the symmetric key cryptographic systems like AES and SNOW 3G are already resistant to attack by a quantum computer.
What determines the sufficiency of the key size?
@@RedSpade37 for symmetric algorithms being broken by Grover's quantum algorithm it only reduces the keysize by half. So a 512-bit key becomes as secure as a 256-bit key, which is still VERY SECURE.
The sharpie method is another option to predict hurricanes
The speed isn't important, because you might have a quantum computer at one end good at hacking, at the other end there will be a quantum computer good at stopping the other one.
It will be the same as using 2 commodore 64's.
It's not the speed, it's what you do with it.
This is kind like not not being able to see a mountain in front of you because you are too busy looking at your shoes. Computers gets stronger, encryption gets stronger and different and it takes time.
Still waiting on my flying car that drives itself and cooks me breakfast while using nothing but free energy etc...
just a p.s for anyone reading , i used to get so upset with tye because he was so skeptical , now i respect him for it which is why he has his title , extraordinary claims require extraodinary evidence , his math and precicision is so honest to the fact i can feel good about , which leaves the abstraction , is there any way we can ever hear tyes abract thoughts and conclusions??
I might be misunderstood and I do not mean to correct anyone. It’s just if you have a quantum computer why wouldn’t you just use that extra quantum to actually map the earth and model the quantum survey? Or are we limited in other ways?
Pls do an episode on Oppenheimer
Ehmm. What about future forms of quantum cryptography/encryption against all that? ¬¬
Chuck fake liking AG1 was the best.
The good news is that dials are making a comeback.
Add subtitles please 👍👍👍👍
It is auto generated.
I think the cloud word or term is oversold. The cloud still needs a computer with a hard drive and connected to a plug. Disabling the cloud takes a simple physical act as switching off the plug. How long will it take for the cloud to not depend on power or backup battery?
still halfway trough the game no spoilers please
Hello Neil and Chuck