Dorset Biological Warfare Experiment - Cold War DOCUMENTARY
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Our historical documentary series on the history of the Cold War continues with a video on the Dorset Biological Warfare Experiment, as we see how the UK tried to weaponize bacteria.
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I was a child living near Lyme Regis at the time, right in the middle of Lyme Bay. Didn't do me any harm. Did it?.... Well, truthfully there is no way of ever knowing what, if anything, these tests did to all of us living there at the time. That they were 'unlikely' to cause problems isn't exactly a ringing endorsement of the safety.
Perhaps you could do one on the some of the other testing carried out there - one RAF volunteer died when exposed to a massive amount of nerve gas. Porton Down was also the site of the infamous "Common Cold Research Institute", which acted as cover for tests of all sorts of nasty things on volunteers who were, to say the least, not told what was really going on. Oh, and of course it wasn't run by DSTL at the time, that's a relatively recent, post Cold War change.
This is probably why humans have a fear of needles lol
Could be worse.
Could be Scotland.
Could be anthrax.
@@julianshepherd2038 True! But at least everyone knew not to go near Gruinard. We weren't told about this at the time - not until many devades later.
Excellent video and coverage! I hope the topic continues to be covered throughout other episodes!
16:05 you sounded like an agent of Grandfather Nurgle :)
Thanks
I see you everywhere man
I lived almost all my life in Dorset (Weymouth specifically) and this is news to me. Nice to see some more footage of God's county, shame the way it was treated by the gov.
I can only imagine your face when you saw the title with your hometown followed by 'Bio Weapons tests' lol
@@topiasr628 first thought was that they must've named it after the county but then he started to name the towns off and then my jaw dropped.
My mum grew up near the admiral hardy
It should be emphasized that in none of these trials were the people being experimented on given any warning beforehand.
They were essentially RAPED for science.
@@jackster2568 Mine too, though I'm from Dorch.
A lot of people don't know about this. Thank you for this video.
Not specifics, but who doesn't know?
@@robertortiz-wilson1588 My parents lol
@@hanzup4117 again, I doubt many would know certain specifics or even good examples, but I would at least think that if most people were told about these experiments they would be inclined to think it's true based on very lacking but still general knowledge.
The most terrifying aspect of chemical/ biological weapons is how easy it's to be made...
Make beer not war.
laugs in covid19
*it's to make
Damn straight. You can make mustard gas, with only ammonia and bleach.
@@אילןאור-ח4מ Average Greek paying debts to germany
The USSR Doctrine was Quite Simple, and Logical: Once it came to Nuclear, there was Little point in Moderation.
Among the Nuclear Warheads would be Biological ones: a Population Ravaged by Radiation Sickness and Malnutrition would be Devestated for Generations by Persistant Biological Weapons, if not Almost Completely Wiped Out.
A combination of Anthrax, Smallpox and Plague following a Nuclear Strike would pretty much Spread through Survivors like Wildfire amongst an Immune-Compromised population already Suffering from Typhoid etc from Contaminated food and water.
Dorset born and bred, and my mum worked at Porton Down. It's weird to see a bit of local history on a channel with an international audience
Porton Down has international notoriety, I believe. Then again, we're probably representative of a peculiar demographic, ;-)
Remember boys and girls, never volunteer for any tests for trivial rewards.
video starts 2:15
What an awesome episode!
The end is awesome!
Wow, truly terrifying. Thank you for bringing light to a lesser known event!
Hi Magellan TV
Cool name
@@99xs Hi!
@@ahmedsaleh9509 Thank you!
I was in the Royal Navy in the '60s. Porton Down would take volunteers with extra leave and pay as the reward. Each volunteer was told that he was participating in experiments to find a cure for the common cold. All lies, of course, But these volunteers would never be told what experiments were really done on them. I do know that most of my fellow sailors are now dead
It's not looking good either so far for the more recent larger scale biological experiment conducted worldwide from the early 2000's
i’ve lived in Dorset my whole life and never knew this, crazy.
My grandfather's sister was killed by these experiments. He spent decades trying to get any sort of justice for his family but never got anywhere. He is in poor health and likely to pass on sooner rather than later. Amazingly intelligent man; I'm proud to be his grandchild.
The Bell Button puns never cease to amaze.
10:49 there is an editing error "the microthread trials" repeated twice. Otherwise very nice video as always.
it's kinda amazing humanity made it thus far really
Ain't that the truth!
We're on the path to extinction now. I wonder what the next dominant species of Earth will be.
I suspect this was also said about one hundred years ago. And, some time before that.
@@answerman9933 But a hundred years ago, we did not have the technology to destroy ourselves as we do now, and the cumulative effects of our actions on the environment are accelerating.
@@BTScriviner I am sure people has similar thoughts as the Ice Age was approaching
By the way, 100 years ago chemicals were used in war. And centuries before that the Mongols would use bodies infected with the Black Plague to help lift sieges.
Great video, I love your stuff!
I was a young kid living on the coast there at the time. We've never been truly told of the consequences and concerns dismissed on the grounds it was impossible to prove any individual was affected.
I understand that nuclear fallout simulations were also conducted over Lyme Bay as well.
How many things in history can have the description "experts at the time thought it was harmless" appended to it?
Brings memories of Op Dark Harvest (1942) when Anthrax was tested on Gruinard Island in Scotland; again Porton Down led
I have a whole list of about a dozen of these chemical warfare operations and experiments, but I never came across Operation Dark Harvest. I'll be digging into that.
Reminds me story from the game called Prototype. U.S military used virus on small settlement, people were unaware and even agree to participate(were told it's something else).
Ah, Porton Down, the place that gave me Atropine Poisoning in 1968 as a young soldier
My late father whilst serving in the Coldstream Guards in the 1930's agreed to be a paid 'volunteer '
to be exposed to mustard gas ( or so he was told ) at Porton Down
@@ianjones1034 We were "technically" volunteers too Ian, but basically when the SGT told you a volunteer was needed and pointed at you, that was volunteering.
You were voluntold?
@@TheColdWarTV Pretty much yes. That's how it worked back then 😅
@@jimfrodsham7938 i can well imagine Jim
Biological Warfare. Will always be infamous. My compliments to all those who made this video a reality.
Anyway we could see something on the Bering Strait? Dubbed the ‘Ice Curtain’
Porton Down,close to Salisbury where the Skripals survived an attack by deadly Novichok. Army chief nurse and daughter just happened to be near by to administer help. Cold war never ended?
Where do they get their music? I'd love to know.
You should make this a podcast channel
astonishing
You know of course some nut job is likely to spray large amounts of E Coli across the country and when caught say YOU told them to do it. 😂😂😂
That's okay, though. We know from the video that E. Coli is "relatively benign".
Experiments on humans is ok when done by "the good guys," amirite?
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What other experiments on humans done by the "bad guys" are you referring too?
@@dodda Wikipedia:
By 1960, numerous BW research facilities existed throughout the Soviet Union. Although the USSR also signed the 1972 Biological Weapons Convention (BWC), the Soviets subsequently augmented their biowarfare programs. Over the course of its history, the Soviet program is known to have weaponized and stockpiled the following bio-agents (and to have pursued basic research on many more):
Bacillus anthracis (anthrax)
Yersinia pestis (plague)
Francisella tularensis (tularemia)
Burkholderia mallei (glanders)
Brucella sp. (brucellosis)
Coxiella burnetii (Q-fever)
Venezuelan equine encephalitis virus (VEE)
Botulinum toxin
Staphylococcal enterotoxin B
Smallpox
Marburg virus
Orthopoxvirus
These programs became immense and were conducted at dozens of secret sites employing up to 65,000 people. Annualized production capacity for weaponized smallpox, for example, was 90 to 100 tons. In the 1980s and 1990s, many of these agents were genetically altered to resist heat, cold, and antibiotics. In the 1990s, Boris Yeltsin admitted to an offensive biological weapons program as well as to the true nature of the Sverdlovsk biological weapons accident of 1979, which had resulted in the deaths of at least 64 people. Defecting Soviet bioweaponeers such as Vladimir Pasechnik and Colonel Kanatjan Alibekov confirmed that the program had been massive and still existed. In 1992, a Trilateral Agreement was signed with the United States and the United Kingdom promising to end biological weapons programs and convert facilities to benevolent purposes, but compliance with the agreement-and the fate of the former Soviet bio-agents and facilities-is still mostly undocumented.
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And its totally not happening today!
@@John77Doe still a disgusting thing to do no matter who does it. They made horror games out of MKUltra like Outlast.
Since the weapons have longed been banned from use, I'll never understand how testing and development was allowed. Why spend money on an illegal weapon when you can't use it. Especially when there's other problems that could have used that money. That goes for both sides.
Agreed, it's a shame. The thinking seems to be that when the going gets tough, one side will likely break the rules to obtain an advantage, and at that point it pays to be prepared.
@@UNSKIALzPSN I agree with that, you have to be prepared in any emergency. Just seems like they'd have learned their lesson from World War 1 and agreed to a total ban. But history shows that didn't happen.
I assume you are so virtuous you have never exceeded the speed limit, dropped litter or taken a short cut down a corridor marked "No Entry". As such I can understand why you are confused. However, there are people who do not follow the rules and people wiser than me or you realise that taking chances is for fools.
The enemy of the future might give two shits about legality.
Easy. There is a need to know how to defend against them.
Have you done an episode on Numbers Stations?
So, my two-day visit to Dorset in 1983 means I could have been exposed? Lovely! (sarcasm)
"Naturally..." LOL
Now imagine an experiment on a new virus that could travel all around the world.
Covid. Indeed. Next monkey pox, then...
Yeah... funny 'coincidence', isn't it?
WOW!
oh boy.
I can clearly see why some people despise scientists:
Ye god's, I was Born in Bournemouth, a coastal town to the west of Weymouth that used to be part of Hampshire but is now in Dorset due to the shifting of county borders. I was born in 1973, and I'm Asthmatic. I wonder?????
4:43 its pronounced Derry
Did the TV come out of Porton , filthy enough to be dangerous.
Remember, your government has your best interests at heart...
You know, maybe chem trails aren't so far fetched...
No, no. They are extremely far fetched.
@@KB4QAA you JUST watched a video on how ships were used to blow out massive bacterial clouds (with coatings made with spider silk that protected the bacteria) that went for 1200 miles in one case, but having planes crop dust an area is too out there?
@@alastor8091 Yes. Another whacko conspiracy theory believed by the uneducated and gullible masses.
And people still dont believe in chemtrails
Maybe this explains why San Francisco is so messed up today.
Now compare that with the USSR who just used the actual agents and spread life anthrax over Sverdlovsk and life smalpox over Aralsk.
OK, it wasn't deliberate but at least at Aralsk the release into the environment was deliberate.
Well, I certainly hope biological weapons aren't ever seriously entertained on a large scale. That sounds like a disaster for all sides in the making. Thank you for this unexpected and interesting video.
Stay well out there everybody, and God bless you, friends. ✝️ :)
The focus has always been on creating single cycle diseases
@@terencestone182 I really don't know a lot about biological warfare research. Do you have any sources you would recommend on the topic?
Doesn't voting for a politician or party means you give/gave consent on their future votes (Even if it's on your behalf????)
As a fellow Canadian I can understand the trickiness in referring to Derry. Many people in our country, possibly due to British influence, mistakenly assume London is in Ireland. No worries, my friend, looking at the two isles one would assume such due to beauty alone. The occupation may soon be over and the maps can then reflect that. Cheers, boyo! Love the videos, keep them coming
There's no occupation, the hell are you talking about?
The present 'occupation' has the support of the majority of the N Ireland populace with the Good Friday Agreement stipulating that unification of the two Ireland's should only be realised though the consent of NI's people
I'm sure as a Canadian colonialist you'd be more than happy to right past wrongs by vacating the place of your birth
Crazy 😜
Inginuity? I'd rather call it psychopathy.
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Kinda crazy that they make their own citizen as their lab rat without them all knows what happened
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Now imagine if literally a 10th of this effort and cash was put toward making people's lives better for half the time in our history. We'd have been in Star Trek by 2000
wrong.
Human nature makes the communist utopia that is the UFP impossible.
Trust your government.
Remember to always trust and obey your government funded authority on current thing
Just to let you know, there is a silent London, in Londonderry. Its pronounced Derry.
things like this make people doubt how much "democratic" nations are actually better than other types of government
Careful now certain people don't like that kind of based behavior
Oh c'mon dude... The very thing you know about this experiment is why democracy is better. Do you realize that a totalitarian regime would never declassify any of that? And if they don't, there is no way people will ever find it out cuz there is literally nowhere to leak such information due to total control of the media.
@@Novgorod_Republic not really. There would be leaks which will make it to various CIA, MI6, etc. to be published and accused of especially during the Cold War.
Finding out about this kind of thing, in democracy, is the only the saving grace of this whole affair and NOTHING to be proud of either.
The shock of this is much greater than finding out a totalitarian regime did that to their own people precisely because we expect that kind of regime to test biological weapons on their own people, not a democratic regime.
@@prastagus3 So what? 1) They will just start saying it's all fabricated by them. 2) People in the country (the majority of) will never find it out anyway. So they'll just say it for external "consumers". In totalitarian regimes it's easy to split what you're saying to your own people and to foreigners with one of them not knowing anything of what you said to the other. You just don't show it to them and that's it. There are no one to do that apart from you(the government).
Remember that meeting of Kim Jong Un with Donald Trump? Pretty sure not a single person apart from high ranking officials knew about that in North Korea and at the same time the whole free world was talking about that meeting.
@@Novgorod_Republic While you can make some claim about minor differences such as these, it doesn't tract from what democratic nations had done here.
The expectation from Democratic nations are vastly different than with Totalitarian nations which is why it is shocking to hear such things from democratic nations doing this since we thought only Totalitarian nations can do so.
The most surprised thing is that even in Democratic nations, the people who did this GOT AWAY with it just like in a Totalitarian nation.
IF YOU NOT FIRST, YOU LAST
What if there are 5 people in line.. you are first.. I am behind you.. there are 3 people behind me.. I believe that would make me second.. they guy at the end of the line would be last.. until others join the line. Yes?
you must have been the top of your class
i guess inteh end capitalism wins over all... *sighs in nonsimonist*
This probably didn’t violate the British “Bill of Rights.”
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Can you also make something like this about such tests in the USSR or PRC? Oh, wait... Totalitarian regimes would never declassify any of that.
I wonder if after the collapse of the USSR the democratic government of Russia declassified at least something of this kind in the 90s though. But considering they didn't properly decommunized and the amount of power former Soviet officials including the KGB had I doubt they did, even if they tried.
These Cold War Programs are unbalanced. They often highlight Western misbehavior and Western injustice while failing to adequately address much more terrible Soviet misbehavior; repression in Eastern bloc police states; evil decisions of communist leaders in Red China that led to deaths of millions; and terribly unjust actions of other communist regimes. Why don't we hear much about the Gulags; about persecutions ordered by communist authorities; or about the assaassinations and executions they ordered? Why don't we hear much more about the victims of communism?
You have hit on the truth. We don't hear much about these things in part because information about the injustices of communism were not always widely known due to the closed nature of totolitarian communist regimes. Nor has available information about misdeeds by communists been disseminated in the West as eagerly by Western media (including these Cold War programs) in comparison to how Western media publicized the failings and shortcomings of Western democracies and capitalism.
The US is monitoring the cattle population and I know this is going to sound crazy but how else could the military/ Department of Energy go in to test these cattle around the country. The unknown assailants move in the cover of darkness and the use emptiness of the geography to remove certain organs that involve species reproduction. All you have to do is look at where all the nukes have been detonated along with the fallout trail across most of the central US. Yes, it's that big. How are you going to find some group in some desolate canyon retrieving cattle parts? Who knows why they're taking samples but, I think it has something to do with the US exploding nuclear device from 1945 until 1963 above ground and below after the Limited Test-Ban Treathy of 1963 it was u der ground contaminating it with radioactivity in the ground water, which gets back to radiation getting in to the food supply via the cattle industry.
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The fact that they used B. Globigii further supports my alternative theory on ww2: that Pearl Harbor was meant to be a stepping stone for an axis wmd program. The similarities to anthrax, the Japanese biowarfare’s most extensively tested agent, along with the fact they left all secondary support structures intact at Pearl Harbor seem to me to indicate that they planned on immediately using Pearl Harbor as a base of operations to launch immediate biological warfare attacks on the us to cripple the us before it ever mounted any sort of military mobilization necessitated by the attack on Pearl Harbor. This, coupled with the amerika bombers and zyclon b research really kind of casts extreme doubt upon the current historical narrative. The nature of these tests is especially important considering Germany’s focus on u boat warfare.
The philosophy of the rich and the poor is this: "the rich invest their money and spend what is left. The poor spend their money and invest what is left".
In that area is a little village called East Lulworth and it has the highest rate of birth defects in Europe due to an "accidental" release of 1000x the dose of Zinc Cadmium sulphide.
BBC ua-cam.com/video/k5u3hxgvpCM/v-deo.html
They also were found guilty of firing Depleted Uranium a mile from the same village and the MOD had to compensate some people. There was a document online about it but i can't find it now.
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@@John77Doe L + Bozo + why + did not ask