What's My Line? - Sam Spiegel; Hugh O' Brian; PANEL: Tony Randall, Joanna Barnes (Jan 30, 1966)
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- Опубліковано 11 січ 2015
- MYSTERY GUEST: Sam Spiegel; Hugh O' Brian
PANEL: Tony Randall, Arlene Francis, Joanna Barnes, Bennett Cerf
NOTE: The show from the week prior to this is lost (Jan 23, 1966). Closing credits added from an older rerun pre-GSN-credit-crunching.
Many thanks to Steve M. Russo for providing this episode in much higher quality than the version I had previously. Folks interested in high quality, well packaged, well-edited DVDs of WML (and other game shows) can contact him directly for more information at RetroTVFestival@comcast.net.
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Sometimes I don't know what I like better, watching the episodes or reading the comments. you guys are so well informed about this subject of this show and I love reading the back-and-forth comments left by the viewers.
This is the nicest, most welcome, most spirit-recharging comment I've read on UA-cam for a very long time. Thank you for taking the time out to acknowledge the generally very high level of conversation in the comments on these videos! :)
This show sends me to "ask Google" so much. I love learning soooo much.
Me too!
me too - the comments are almost as entertaining
And we like hearing from you as well
Hugh O'brien was a great actor and a great man! TY
Hugh O’Brien was a real gentleman and a very fine actor. I would have liked him to have done more work in the theatre.
I have a new WML crush: the motorcycle saleswoman. Bennett's tip about the red hair was the clincher.
I always 💜Tony Randall, played Rock Hudson's wingman in several HIT comedy movies. Huge O'Brien great in "10 little indians", best "LOMBARD" ever! TY for upload💙
Hugh O’Brien was a great actor & good looking guy ☺️
Hugh O'Brian will be seen as Mystery Guest again on the August 27, 1967 episode, the second-to-last-aired episode of the show.
Hugh O'Brian and Mickey Rooney was the stars of the movie "Ambush Bay".
For all intents and purposes, Hugh O'Brian was the real last WML mystery guest appearing in the second-to-last 1967 WML episode.
I love Arlene and Bennett. They were so smart.
Cerf is a cheater
Bennett cheated!
@@gailsirois7175 No he isn't.
@@joelfogelsanger5773 No he didn't.
@Reyna Herichan. Yes, they were both very intelligent. Bennett Cerf did a lot of reading up on all of the celebrities and other people that were big in the news every day. That caused a lot of ignorant people to accuse him of cheating.
Hugh O’Brian was very handsome. It was really lovely what he had to say about Vietnam and our soldiers there.
I was impressed too. He's much smarter and informed than celebrities today.
I was moved to tears by what he said. I had never heard such a moving tribute to our “boys” during that era (I graduated from College that spring and remember the blizzard that January.) I didn’t come across WML till years later.
What a fairytale on Nam
@@dinahbrown902 get phuqqed commie pos. I doubt a woke millennial like yourself knows anything about the Vietnam War beside what she's seen on Family Guy or South Park.
@@noobsshadow1369 I’m a 67 year old woman who remembers my neighbor screaming horribly throughout the whole neighborhood when she received the news her young handsome son had stepped on a landline and had both of his legs blown off. I remember him sitting in a wheelchair and his dad building a ramp. You are very quick at labeling people dear JR. Name one stinking thing good that war accomplished .
Fun to see what was going on at WML when I was two days old. :)
stlmopoet I was a foetus in my mother's tummy at this point.
just turned 64 and catching up on his wyatt earp episodes i never saw back in the 50s
I found the juxtaposition of Hugh O'Brian's description of Vietnam, and the video of a solder's description of Vietnam incredible.
Sam Spiegel had a great life. Very interesting.
The 2nd challenger is a pretty redhead, and yeah, imagine if WML had been in color already.
Anita Ekberg of "The Alphabet Murders",and so many others, died recently.
May she rest in peace.
For sheer length and complexity and a photo finish, the second mystery guest sequence is right up there with Walter Brennan's first mystery guest appearance.
One of the earliest references to Vietnam on WML. O'Brien went there several times. And John does a great post-game interview.
Which he should have done more often, as Larry Blyden did.
Sam Spiegel was also the producer of yet another terrific movie, "On The Waterfront." Originally, Sam Spiegel told Frank Sinatra that he could play the role of Terry Malloy, and as a Hoboken young man who well knew the people and environment of the region, Sinatra felt he was ideal for the role. Eventually, director Kazan convinced Spiegel that Sinatra wouldn't be right for the role, so they gave it to Marlon Brando. Sinatra felt that Spiegel had double-crossed him, especially since Brando and Sinatra were frequently at odds. (Sinatra often referred to Brando as "Mumbles" because of Brando's poor diction, in comparison Sinatra's impeccable diction.) In George Jacob's memoir that extensively covered Sinatra's life, Jacobs described how Sinatra continued to express enmity toward Spiegel long after the completion of "On The Waterfront." (Jacobs was Sinatra's personal valet during the most interesting and turbulent periods of Sinatra's life.)
I didn't know any of that, although it is totally believable. And Sinatra was a guy who held grudge and you didn't want to cross. It didn't stop the two of them from making "Guys and Dolls" the following year. Even a die hard Sinatra fan has to know that Brando was a better actor than Sinatra, certainly at that time, and that Brando was infinitely better for the role. Just picture Sinatra talking about how he could have been a contender.
Sinatra seemed to be a bit of a hot head to a lot of people.
Sinatra sacked George Jacob rom his job as his personal valet after he was told that
Jacob had danced with Mia Farrow - Sinatra's wife at the time - at some 'do', in Sinatra's absence.
Sam Spiegel kept all the profits from "The African Queen," never distributing production points to Humphrey Bogart and John Huston, to which they were legally entitled. Katharine Hepburn, Bogart and Huston had a terrible time trying to get paid their salaries, and may not have ever been paid in full or at all. Sinatra, as a close personal friend of Bogart, would have known about this. It wouldn't have increased his fondness for Sam Spiegel. Spiegel was one of the most powerful producers in the world and I would assume that's why people kept risking working for him, even though his theft of "African Queen" profits was widely known.
@@preppysocks209 I can see Sinatra doing the "contender" scene and being excellent in the part. He would've been different from Brando, but Brando wasn't necessarily better. Brando is so thoroughly identified with the role of Terry Malloy, we can't imagine anyone else saying those lines in those scenes, by this point. He has passed into legend.
"In the matter of languages, Spiegel knows his way around in English, German, French, Spanish, Polish, Russian, Czech, Italian and Palestinian Hebrew.
"But Latin, the dead language, is his first love. And the tributes he pays it would bring tears of joy to many an American high school Latin teacher.
"'For my study of old Latin I have been grateful all my life,' said Spiegel. 'It has an enormous discipline - a discipline that once you learn you can use afterward in anything.
"'Today many film writers go off on a tangent. They lack the rigid discipline of thought that Latin teaches. I advise any young script writer to read the Gallic wars of Caesar. Then he will know how to write with discipline.'" (Hal Boyle, Associated Press Staff Writer, as published in the Binghamton Press of Binghamton, NY, Feb. 14, 1949)
So Spiegel knows his way around in Polish. Good for him.
Proszę przekazać mu moje pozdrowienia !
Please say hello to him on my behalf !
Cheers !
He was born in Poland
I took 4 years of Latin in HS and 1 semester in college. This must explain why I have such a disciplined mind! :-)
It also explains why I love grape jelly and jam. Veni, vidi, vici ... I came, I saw, I concord. :-)
Mr Spiegel said Israeli Hebrew. Any political reason you wrote Palestinian Hebrew?
@@stevekru6518 Thank you for the question, Steve. It was not I that said Palestinian Hebrew, but rather the Associated Press, in an article dated Feb. 14, 1949. Wikipedia currently states that "Palestinian Jews were Jewish inhabitants of Palestine . . . prior to the establishment of the modern state of Israel." The AP article was, in fact, written "prior to the establishment of the modern state of Israel"; Israel was founded three months after the article was written, on May 14, 1949. This broadcast was made many years later, so of course the reference would have been updated.
Just double-checked this episode. The sponsor was cut by GSN, and with the cut sponsor, the episode originally had no more than 3 commercial breaks.
Hugh O'Brian never got married till he was 81 years old..2006
Dated his wife for 18 yrs? Heavens, she was patient.
such a HANDSOME guy he was....I had a Wyatt Earp shirt that had the tie as well...my favorite to wear to school....
I used to love Wyatt Earp
23:20 I had no idea the Vietnamese people never ate before the American GIs saved them and brought them food for the first time ever.
While Hugh is in the movie "Ten Little Indians" adapted from a book by Agatha Christie. Tony was in the parody" The Alphabet Murders "also adapted from a book by Agatha Christie "The ABC Murders"
Yes. This was an earlier version the same movie as Ten Little Indians. That was made in 1945.
Debra Battle It was called "And Then Their Were None," and starred one of my favorite actors, Barry Fitzgerald.
In 1974 Peter Colinson directed another version of "And Then There Were None" set at a grand hotel in the Iranian desert starring Richard Attenborough as judge Arthur Cannon, and with Charlez Aznavour, Elke Sommer, Gert Fröbe, Herbert Lom, Oliver Reed, Adolfo Celi and Orson Welles as the voice on the record. An awful movie! The best version is still that made in 1945.
In 1989 there was further a version set on a safari in the African savanna with Donald Pleasance and Herbert Lom (I thought he died in the last one!!).
Debra Battle he played in ambush bay
My goodness Mr.Bengstsson, you are a very negative person. We are all only humans. Try to look for the positive in life.
RE: In Cold Blood. Too bad Truman Capote never showed up as a writer guest panelist aka Herman Wouk, James Michner, Helen Gurley Brown, or Max Shulman.
Hugh O’Brian was the star of the first adult western, The Life and Legend of Wyatt Earp, which debuted in 1955 just before Gunsmoke did.
Beautiful. I lived in Saigon the Vietnamese are a for the most part a beautiful people. Thank you nfor going
I was so glad to hear this tribute. Moved me to tears.
@@VickyRBensonThe city is now Ho Chi Mihn City.
Spiegel was the first independent producers to win three Best Picture Oscars. But he wasn't billed that way in all of his films. Up to "The African Queen," he was billed as SP Eagle. Some fun facts about "Lawrence of Arabia" are that it is the movie that Stephen Spielberg saw that inspired him to become a film director (some years ago he said that remaking the film today would cost $300 million, quite relevant to producing it), and that in that nearly four hour film, there is not a single line of dialog that is spoken by a woman.
Arline always smiled big if she was the one to guess the person.
John Daly made a mistake at 21:00, one that he made many times ovcer the years. Arlene asked, "It's not David Niven", and John said "no", but he should have answered in the affirmative. Yes, it is not David Niven.
She was actually asking if it was with her wording and inflection: "It's not David Niven?" (The inflection suggested a following "is it?") Had she said "May I assume it is not David Niven?" would give her a "Yes." You will notice that she didn't argue the point.
Wouldn't have made a difference
One question at a time
The film, "Ten Little Indians", also starred:
Shirley Eaton
Fabian
Leo Genn
Stanley Holloway
Wilfrid Hyde-White
Daliah Lavi
Dennis Price
Marianne Hoppe
Mario Adorf
For some reason I always mix up Shirley Eaton with Sheena Easton. Wilfrid Hyde-White was Colonel Pickering and Stanley Holloway played Alfred Doolittle in the 1964 film "My Fair Lady". I didn't know Fabain was in this one.
If I am correct one of these four persons was the murderer.... :)
Johan Bengtsson Shirley Eaton was the woman painted in gold in "Goldfinger".
***** Yes, beautiful actress! Too bad she retired so early from filming. Sheena Easton sang in my absolute favorite Bond-movie "For Your Eyes Only"!!
Weird how so many of the actors who are mystery guests on this show take an insanely long time to answer the simplest questions...often giving the wrong answers and needing Daly to correct them. Was it nerves or were some of them not too bright?
I know what you mean. . . how can a person not know whether he appears regularly on television, e.g.? Happened all the time. I think sometimes the pauses are due to their concentrating on their vocal disguise.
+GLC2013 Keep in mind these shows were at 10:30 at night so there's also a decent chance they might have had a few "belts" under their belts.
Or maybe they want to be exact with their answers so as to not give themselves away right away because the panel is so well informed at times they could guess a mystery guest in no time flat. So the mystery guest has to try to throw them off the track any way they can..... Just my assumption.
Was am unnecessary war
Hugh, even though, is gone. Great service 👏🏽
Wow, producer of the greatest film ever made
At 21:30 Bennet asks if the picture is one of those spy-detective stories, and they both answered “Not a Spy” and John Daly turned down the NO, while Bennett’s query about the “detective” part goes unheard. Fortunately it came around to him again, and no one had picked it up. Technically, he should not have been given a “No,” since it was an Agatha Christie detective story. But it was too late to tell him to choose one or the other or to tell him it was one or the other. But I sure noticed what happened! But by that time I think Bennett was sure who it was as well as the picture. I’d like to check it out that movie!
I was really impressed with this Mystery Guest, who I hadn’t heard of before. The story of his visit to Vietnam moved me to tears. You don’t usually hear the good side of our Vietnam saga. I was a college senior at the time this was aired. I had grown up in South Africa with no television or movie background. I remember the January blizzard that year in Indiana. I wonder how the Honda sales lady made it from Indianapolis in that blizzard!
Talk about a man of the world, being fluent in ONE language can be a challenge
I sometimes wonder what was it that was cut.
Maybe it was Kool Cigarettes, or maybe it was a commercial. Each episode during the later 1960's had 3 commercial breaks.
Hugh O’Brien
Really cool guy 👍👍👍👍👍
Hugh was friends with Debby Reynolds
Her name is DEBBIE Reynolds
I don't think maybe 5 ppl in that audience recognized Sam Spiegel by site.
SIGHT, not site.
Hugh O’Brian was so handsome, refined and debonair. ❤
He looked so sexy in the movie "Twins" where he was barechested.
Motorcycles are seasonal.
Motocycles are used 365 days a year.
I disagree with the answer on hills. On a steep hill or mountain on a highway, nothing beats a big motorcycle. A big bike leaves all the 4 (or more) wheeled vehicles in the dust.
Arlene knew right away
Wow; eight languages!
I would’ve thought that one of the languages Sam Spiegel spoke was Yiddish.
Bike with a motor. It's a moped.
Motocycles are very powerful compared to a moped or scooter.
Bennett's Weekly Pun: The joke about John's ancestor Sir Murgatroyd Daly, the St Bernard dog and the Inn was so bad even I couldn't recommend it... (2:00-2:30)
Johan Bengtsson
Believe it or not, I actually liked that one! :D
SaveThe TPC The difference between good and bad is very small when it comes to Bennett's jokes. :)
Johan Bengtsson And quite subjective too. :)
SaveThe TPC Right!
He tells it better than Ralph Kramden
Wow, Honda from the 1960s... didn’t realize they were already a thing in the US since then.
Try the 1950s.
6:13 To cast Sam Spiegel's new film The Chase he used the literal casting couch 8:30 The whistlers are desparate; I mean she isn't all that 22:46 Hugh O'Brian talks about his trip to Vietnam. I mean I've never heard anything more pro-war, but the anti-war position was in general not allowed on TV back then.
@ 2:15 Jackie Gleason did this joke on The Honeymooners almost 10 years before this.
Later, when immigration wasn't a joke as it is now.
For years, "Now let's all play WML:>" Suddenly, "Time now for television's favorite guessing game." What is up with that?
Good observation, I never listen with both ears what the announcer says at (in?) the beginning of each show.
Johan Bengtsson Ah, but you do notice, with your eyes, Steve Allen checking his watch for approximately 3 seconds when that sort of thing happens. :)
What's My Line? Of course, that's quite another thing. When I look at the TV weather forecast I always doze off mentaly and miss the whole thing, the same when Johnny Olson announces WML. But when something unexpected happens I wake up. :)
+soulierinvestments What's old is new again. That's how they used to introduce the show starting around mid to late 1953. Interesting how they decided to use the intro they first used over 10 years earlier.
Guess they decided to change things up eventhough they used that intro "slogan" many years before
Ironic about aliens having to report every year.
In light of current events.
This law has been in effect for 100 years.
Prior to the internet, the panelists must have relied on newspapers and gossip columns. They always seem to know who was in New York and which plays, movies & TV shows were written about.
You're exactly right, they read all the papers. In fact, Bennett admitted the panel would often know and there was an "unwritten rule" that they would let the guesses go around one time just for fun, even if they knew. Like here I think Bennett knew way earlier and was playing along.
@@markxxx21 Bennett was known to bring a scrap of paper with a list of celebrities he knew to be in New York and would study it before airtime.
That is true, but also these were prominent people in society who personally knew almost every celebrity so they'd be aware that way, too, of who was in town and what they were up to.
For Those Interested. And/Or Those Who Have Not Scene It.
- Ten Little Indians Here is FANTASTIC.
WAY (WAY) Superior, More Self-Secured, and REAMS More Confident than that knock-off knives out.
One of the BEST, CUTEST, SWEETEST Endings (I've) EVER (Scene on Film or In Screen).
This was also a DELIGHTFUL Mg Segment Right Here.🎨
He was in 'and then there were None' about that time but it wasn't Hitchcock
So i use the pc title
R.I.P. Aunt vicky ❤
What project did Randall and O Brian work together ?
I was curious as well and found nothing on IMDB or IBDB or good old Google.
Dorothy would've gotten the answers much quicker (2nd guest)
No, she would of been drunk and hesitant.
Interesting I don't find many people named Joyce these days.
Joyce DeWitt of "Three's Company."
The motorcycle lady was gorgeous, one of the best looking women ever on the show.
Absolutely. One of my all-time WML favorites.
Sam Spiegel the greatest of all producers
Arelene asked two questions saying do you get in or on ,then the girl said on,she shouldn't of told her .
Arlene is cheating, like usual.
sounds like Bennet had a cold, what a trumper
I think you meant trooper...
Second game: Is this in anyway a bicycle. Only in the sense that when it was invented peoople said, "Look, a bicycle witha motor." Pul-lease John.
Rarely do I disagree with John, but here I would have given Tony a "yes" if I were the judge.
Motorcycles are powered by gas, bicycles are powered by men.
Bicycles are also powered by women 🙂. I also would have given a Yes answer: both "vehicles " are two-wheeled, are sat upon by the driver and are used for transportation. "Is it in ANY WAY like a bicycle?"
I see three ways!
Omg. Non citizens have to report their addresses each January to the immigration office??? Is that still the law??
Yes, so you don't and you will be kicked out of our great country.
Tony Randall always acts out of it on WML.
Who says he's acting?
Will Milton - Tony Randall was an extremely educated man, particularly in theatre and opera. He was making fun of himself because he so often worded what he wanted to ask backwards from the way that would have gotten him a YES reply to continue. He was not stupid or out of it. He was the commentator for years on the Met's live Saturday afternoon broadcast of their opera performances on radio. He funded a theater company doing classics with the monies from his nationwide theater tours in "The Odd Couple" with Jack Klugman, because his commitment to fine theater was so great. He was happily married for 50 years before being widowed and had friends of some talent and grace, like Eva Marie Saint and her director husband, Jeffrey Hayden, all the years they all were alive. She alone remains now. But he was a decent, refined human who lived a life filled with performance arts and exemplary behavior. If you watch enough of these, you will note his witticisms and puns are often erudite and he has great humor and warmth. He has a particularly funny exchange with fellow Okie James Garner when Garner was the Mystery Guest and Randall was on the panel that night. It was witty and caustic and all done with great appreciation one to the other for each of them being among the finest of the American light comedic actors.
@@philippapay4352 Very interesting information! Thanks!
My favorite guest panelist.
you should close your eyes when you have blindfolds on
I have been watching these out of order just choosing ones where I know or are interested in the mystery guest. However I noticed the rather odd boy girl girl boy set up. Was that normal for 1966?
I don't think so; I don't understand why Arlene wasn't in the first chair, as she usually was after Dorothy's passing. I do remember one show from the syndicated era when Bennett made one of his frequent visits; Soupy and Arlene were not on, and the panel (in order) were Gene Rayburn, Brenda Vaccaro, Joanna Barnes, and Bennett.
It seems to have changed since the beginning of 66. I'm glad.
The Chase was really the least interesting of Sam Spiegel's films. Any man who produced "Tales of Manhattan," "The African Queen," "On the Waterfront," ":The Bridge on the River Kwai," "Lawrence of Arabia," and "Nicholas and Alexandra" cannot be all bad.
soulierinvestments
"The Chase" is going to be on TCM tonight at 2:15 AM EST -- What a coinkydink! :)
Zihnija Sarac' had to do this every Jan. Katrina Sarac' Vale Dodson take note.
3:20 John made a little speech to all non-citizens of US to report their local addresses each January. Peculiar!
+Johan Bengtsson I remember that through the 1960s there were constant reminders on radio and television for non-citizens to file their Alien Registration cards during the month of January. John Daly wasn't the only one to do this and I never thought it peculiar. I don't know when the filing of Alien Registration cards came to an end.
This is rich - alien registration cards are still required. There used to be PSA's like John's on the TV and radio all the time. I guess it is peculiar in the sense that breaking the law is now so widely tolerated.
You hear that public announcement on many shows - Bud Collier used to do them on To Tell the Truth also, and I suppose many others.
Peculiar that it should seem peculiar.
I remember the late, late night Public Service Announcements of the '70s, but I don't recall ever seeing one during a prime time show. Peculiar, indeed.
Hugh sounds like the guy that played Moses . Can't think of his name.
Thzt would be Edward G. Robinson.
To borrow a joke from soulierinvestments, was Spiegel's "etc." about other things?
jesus…hugh…ANSWER THE FRIGGIN QUESTIONS…and tony…ASK THE FRIGGIN QUESTIONS
You stop Taking Lord’s Name in Vain Broke 1Of The 10 Commandments!! SHAME
@@toinimoore3463 Jesus..what a reply. Freedom of speech.
@@toinimoore3463 Remember, your Lord is YOUR Lord, not everyone's. You don't get to dictate other people's beliefs. So typical.
Hugh really sugar-coated the Viet Nam War. Hugh mentioned something about going to the White House for dinner.. President Johnson must have been right pleased with Hughes propaganda tales. Apart from that, I always liked Hugh O'Brian. I lived for a long time in the city where Hugh O'Brian was born.
Very sugar coated, who got to him?
I'm not sure O'Brian himself believed the stuff he was spouting. He sounded so paternalistic, it was nauseating--- like we found a primitive tribe in the jungle and we're going to force them to be modern. You can't do that, and Ho Chi Minh proved it.
Hugh O'Brian was the youngest ever Marine DI during WW2. His generation largely believed in the Vietnam War and thought the US war machine and it's leaders were infallible. Many would change their minds, many would not.
What was I doing January 30, 1966? Men don't whistle at pretty girls anymore. DAMN FEMINISTS. 2023...to be continued.
I like dorathy better.
You like dead women?
Sam Spiegel had a terrible handwriting. 4:10
Johan Bengtsson
We *could* blame the chalk, but I think you're right. ;)
And that matters how?
YES..
Well, he got a military style brain-washing in his visit to Vietnam. ( Not that the U.S. military would ever lie.....ho, ho, ho.) He was indoctrinated by the Military Industrial Complex and the pentagon if he really believed what he was saying that the military action was "saving" those people who were starving and incredibly they now had a government they could count on, I had to LMAO.
Thank you for saying this. I could not figure out how to word it without going off into excruciating detail of facts I know to the contrary of the vision Hugh was shown and expressed.
The director of this show should have long ago realized the wasted time at the beginning of these shows could have been useful at the ends of these rushed shows.
Nick Doe I like the beginning of the shows though. The programme needed another five minutes that's all. :)
Producer Gil Fates realized it. When WML went into syndication there were six minutes of commercials so there had to be some cutting down on the basics, such as the panelists introducing each other; another thing was a clue to the contestant's occupation; Bruner or Blyden might say, for instance, that the professional stilt walker "gets around in a most unusual way." The panel then did not have to ask the preliminary questions that always seemed to take a couple of minutes on the network show; the time saved, whether the panel came up with it or not, allowed the contestant to demonstrate or show a film clip of his or her occupation. The mystery guest spot also had a time limit of 2-3 minutes on syndicated "Line." Blyden, in particular, liked to have time to talk with a mystery guest of some stature; he would say, "Leave me some time. I want to talk with him (or her)."
Oh come on now....Bennett wasn't even close then out of nowhere comes out with Hugh O'Brian. He cheats!
How?
You fail to understand that Dorothy, Arlene and Bennett have spent over 15 years making it an art knowing who is in town and who isn't and what plays and films are opening and who are in them. There is NO CHEATING. Moreover, they all have disqualified themselves at times if they were made aware of a guest.
Stupid people often accuse smart people of cheating. Bennett was very smart.