Servants talk about Gil: "That guy spells trouble. Are you crazy to form contact with him, Master?" Servants talk about Herc: "He is Berserker, but we respect him regardlessly." There is some massive difference here.
one is the selfish king that cared more about hoarding every treasure on Earth, the other is a famous hero who underwent various labour to be one I think I know which one I would root for
lol. to be fair Gil isn't exactly a typical hero. the dude just wanna chill and observe humanity. the only time he actively intervened was because he wanted to free mankind from the gods, so they could create their own future (Babylonia arc). other than that, he's basically a presentative of us audience, just curious to see our beloved characters do their things. He's also unpredictable, you will never know what he's gonna pull out of his vault. You also won't know if he's on your side. this fate-doraemon would lend his precious treasure to anyone, as long as he thinks that would serve to ensure humanity's future. Herc on the other hand is the typical hero type, while predictable, its also reassuring.
Fun Fact: During the 5th HGW when Heracles was rampaging through, he and Medusa saw each other and the latter immediately retreats. She immediately knew who's she's facing and decided not to fight.
Isn't Alcides an anomaly? From what I remember, in the strange fake manga, Alcides is a by-product of corrupting Heracles that's summoned in the archer class, and if my speculations are correct, Alcides will be in the avenger class (correct me if I'm wrong)
"Hmmhmm... as I thought, Berserker is strong, isn't he?" Illya/Sitonai has no qualms letting the player be Heracles' Master, seeing as she too is a Servant in this, and can tell that his powerful strength is appreciated.
Small fact: Medea and Heracles were good friends and Heracles told her that if Jason ever betrayed her she could go look for him and he'd take care of her. However, when Medea found Heracles he had gone Berserk after killing his kids. Medea cured him, but since he became busy with his 12 works she ended up leaving. That may be why Medea is so keen to communicate with Heracles.
That fact that Heracles, even in his Berserker state, still feels uncomfortable around Chiron is rather sad. That event is permanently ingrained into any Heracles Saint Graph. Chiron is that parent who won’t be angry at his child even if they did something that negatively affects him by accident.
Anybody would be traumatized to see their father figure scream and whither to poison so harsh that he gave up his own immortality so Heracles would kill him, ending the pain. It is not a pretty sight to see.
In strange fake even alcides likes him and warns his master not to insult him in fate myth jason was the few beings who treated Heracles like a person and believed in him even in okeanus
Alcides/Herc Archer will be a big news if he got a banner in FGO, but Stange Fake's author still abides on their rule of "I will finish this, then you got collab"
It never stops being weird to think about how Heracles, one of the strongest servants, recognized as one of the strongest servants in Fate by all the other servants, is a 4* servant in FGO.
I work it out as being that Heracles in his Berserker form just isn't as useful as many of his other classes. As an Archer he's noticeably far more proficient against Gilgamesh as Alcides shows, and as a Saber he'd gain an even stronger Anti-Magic presence on top of his peerless swordplay. Not to mention the number of mythical beasts he tamed he could potentially ride as NPs as a Rider. Even as just a Lancer or Assassin, his excellent spearwork and clever trickery from myth would make him extremely versatile. All he can do in Zerker form is hit stuff, and tank stuff. *Really really well,* yeah, but even then limited by his Master. Like, Ritsuka's version of Heracles is notably weaker than Ilya's, given he lacks the 12 lives and instead has to make up with a damaging NP.
@@JacksonJinn Well alcides is completely different from archer hercules. If archer herc was summoned he wouldnt be able to use 12NPs. Thats why hes pretty confident against gil, especially since he can seal away Ea. Ofc archer herc woouldnt be a slouch but he wouldnt be talking that much crap
Not for me, I'm working towards getting him to lvl 120 now that the servant coins have been added. I love Heracles and everything goes to him ahhaha. Got bond 15, skils all 10 but sadly missing 1 copy of him to get np5
@@JacksonJinn I don't know about Ritsuka version though since they can just use Chaldea's mana reserve anyway. This is why in lots of events we had so many servants wandering around in the facility. Although if you think about game sense we can only get about 4 lives or guts not accounting for the guts skill cool down and take it as one use only
I don't know why but I'm imagining Heracles carrying Sitonai on his shoulder while Jason is being carried under arm with a big grin on his face. I'm also imagining the shadow/fragment of Heracles that Sitonai has fusing with Heracles to make a proper 5 star Heracles that has full God Hand and has maybe 2 Nine lives blades and or 1 Nine lives blade and the axe he has at 3rd+ ascension. He'd maybe have a buster np, 2 buster, 2 arts, and 1 quick cards.
Miss Crane's possible reference: for his murder of Iphitus (induced by madness), Heracles was, by the command of the Delphic Oracle Xenoclea, remanded as a slave to Omphale for the period of a year. Heracles was forced to do women's work and even wear women's clothing and hold a basket of wool while Omphale and her maidens did their spinning.
@@Vejitatheouji Absolutely that one for me. It wasn't the greatest show in history. But it was pretty fun and definitely helped fuel my appreciation of Heracles. Even though I also tend to just want to call him Hercules.
despite all the new servant coming into the game heracles is always the one saving my ass in the story quest, like bruh i'm not even doing that in purpose i just instinctivelly put him in the party at each final story quest boss and when everyone is dead he is the one finishing the job.
That's actually the saddest line. It's the last thing Ilya says before dying, after blinded and on death's door, crawling on the floor. she searches for Heracles hand and when she find it she says that phrase.
@@agravain9006 I think he'd be a hunter that tracks prey and surprises it, he could have a noble phantasm unique to that class that makes it snow so much that nobody can run anymore besides heracles or it could just be dropping a rock on someone's back
Normal heracles already appeared in fate strange fake before being turned into alcides so hopefully we are having him in his heroic or at least in his alcides form one of these days. hopefully when the anime of strange fake airs
Love how despite of losing her reasoning and becoming a literal killing machine, everyone stills treats Basaka nicely (except of Penthe and adult Medea), I think Adult Medea hates Heracles for what happened on Stay/Night? or on that route were Kojirou had to solo Heracles using all of Medea's powers I really need to grail my Heracles on NA, he has helped me so much with a lot of fights, will wait for more events to happen soon
Actually, Medea's hatred for Heracles has something to do with their legends. Medea Lily didn't know Heracles before, and that's why she doesn't have a problem with him. Adult Medea, on other hand...
I’m a little sad Penethesila calls Heracles enemy to her sister, since, at least from my understanding, Heracles was originally only taking the girdle through negotiations, not violence, until Hera got the Amazons all angry at him
I think Hippolyta is still smitten by Herc, so I'm excited for Hippolyta to come and join Chaldea. It would be pretty cool to see them interact(and sad, since Zerk Herc is probably the only one we'll be getting besides Alcides, so it'll be hard to make a Convo).
According to Fake, Hippolyta was killed by Herk, she mentions it the first time she appears when Gil says that shes below that man (Alcides) which she acknoledges
@@masterblaster5186 well in the the mythology, she did get killed by him. When the amazones got tricked by Hera and attack Herc, he drove them off and after that, kill hippolyta due to him though that she ordered them.
If we talk about who's the most famous hero in the classical age till to this modern time, it be without in doubt, Heracles or Hercules! His legend is very highly spoken throughout the ages. There was a time that the demigod would lived a happy life with his wife Megara and their 3 sons. But in the Greek world? There no such thing as a happy ending especially being the son of Zeus. Anyone that is mortal and their father is the King of Gods always end up as the target of Hera's wrath. (Let's ignore what happened in God of War games about they turned the hero into that b*tch personal dog) If we do get someday a servant once again from the Greek pantheon. Let's really really hope that those deities personality are toned down a bit especially someone like Aphrodite or Zeus for that matter.
I mean after he died and became a pantheon of Olympus, Hera finally relented and since then has been more peacefull with him, the to even help eachother and Heracles sometime praise Hera too, one could say Hera is like a mother figure to Heracles. She even argee to let him married her daughter, goddess of eternal youth Hebe. Further more, in the Titanomachy, Heracles save Hera from one titan that wanted to rape her. But yes, all of the good time between the two happen after his mortal life end.
@@rogueascendant6611 obv but its not like they didnt get some things wrong on it even the norse gods got done dirty when ironically they only fought the giants due to being targeted by them, and also its true That Heracles and Hera basically became best pals after his death
We all know Heracles would be at his best and mightiest in his Archer class. His Saber class would feature the legendary blade Marmyadose, a sword that exceeds Excalibur in every way.
I really would love to see him in other classes once and for all, i know his archer form is out of the count until strange/fake is over, but what about saber or rider?.
I'm surprised when it comes to Hippolyta's death, none of those pissed at Heracles/Herc for that don't voice their disdain for Hera and Zeus, Zeus for constantly cheating on Hera having her revenge filled mentally and Hera for taking this anger out on his kids for just being born when they didn't ask for it Hippolyta wouldn't have died if Hera didn't brainwash Herc to kill his family therefore he'd never have to do his 12 Labors
I think the author of Strange Fake asked to keep the servants he was using out of FGO until he finished his story; also I am pretty sure that same author is on hiatus right now
Heracles? Hmmm........ How do i describe... a giant like muscle immortal hero who carried me all over the Singularities untill the latest NA lb atlantis? Hes just the best berserker ever I just hope i can hear him talking.. Despite his class being a berserker
@@Urd-Vidan heracles has a whole bunch of dialogue in the first third of stay night as well, only in the second third, UBW, does he have no dialogue (in the anime at least)
it really bummed me out how DW/Typemoon barely gave this guy some sort of content or general importance in story, when the dude genuienly one of known and popular hero in history. like they not even release another version of him or make story focus around him its just baffling
I feel the same way. It's such a total waste. Is he just really unpopular in Japan? I was pretty confident that he's one of the most popular mythological figures in the world. Guy should print money if they gave him a sane version and made him a 5*. But they just refuse to use him, even in stories where he'd make total sense. Are they legally required to use the Strange Fake version before any other version of him? Just save the archer version for when that story is done. Everything else is on the table DW!
Looking at how they use the big name heroes, it's probably just an unspoken rule for Nasu to avoid relying on their fame, instead going for lesser figures like Mandricardo or at least famous but not world renowned characters like Billy the Kid
Also, he's kinda too powerful in some cases, they had to make put on a spot light for the other servants. There's a reason he was killed off screen by the gods themselves in LB5. Although, I am with you, I would love Herc in a story, especially as an Ally. Man, imagine we'd get sane Herc like what happened to Caligula in LB5.5.
I mean, considering Kratos is a divine spirit he'd prolly have to be a pseudo servant, did they ever mention anything about him or his siblings in part 2 of Lb5? I'm NA player so i wouldn't know yet Tho he'd likely be on the side of the villains considering how it's always mentioned how he enjoyed "unnecessary violence" especially by Aeschylus His sister Nike would be perfect as an ally tho considering she's always portrayed as not much of a fighter, just good enough to drive Zeus' chariot
I'm working on 120 rn. And I really hope when they finally make another version of him in FGO it won't be Alcides cause I want the real Heracles not some corrupted form. . .
Gil has trouble making friends, and girl problems considering the history between Artoria and him. Ishtar especially. I guess that golden rule can’t give him all the treasures.
Probably helps that he's not a genocidal maniac. Even if he's effectively a monster in Fate due to being a Berserker, there's still more humanity there than with Gilgamesh.
@@overlordwarlordtheomnilord9473 he doesn't have trouble making friends. Look at him and Alexander. It's not that he CAN'T make them. It's that he WON'T make them because Enkidu is the only person he will ever call friend
![Hercules / Heracles Solo - Megalos & Columbus Boss Fight [FGO]](/img/n.gif)
Servants talk about Gil: "That guy spells trouble. Are you crazy to form contact with him, Master?"
Servants talk about Herc: "He is Berserker, but we respect him regardlessly."
There is some massive difference here.
Of course, Gil is an overpowered dick, Herc is a genuine hero. There's a difference.
Well ones an arrogant doosh and the other is a fucking Hercules. There is plenty reasons to trust the latter even with his madness.
one is the selfish king that cared more about hoarding every treasure on Earth, the other is a famous hero who underwent various labour to be one
I think I know which one I would root for
They should made two difference of gil,
Gil archer and gil mage, because i think gil mage is wiser than the archer one
lol. to be fair Gil isn't exactly a typical hero. the dude just wanna chill and observe humanity. the only time he actively intervened was because he wanted to free mankind from the gods, so they could create their own future (Babylonia arc). other than that, he's basically a presentative of us audience, just curious to see our beloved characters do their things.
He's also unpredictable, you will never know what he's gonna pull out of his vault.
You also won't know if he's on your side. this fate-doraemon would lend his precious treasure to anyone, as long as he thinks that would serve to ensure humanity's future.
Herc on the other hand is the typical hero type, while predictable, its also reassuring.
You know you're a great man when everyone who saw you praises the hell out of you regardless of you being insanely angry or not
シトナイ以外「なんだ今回はバーサーカーか……」
の中、「相変わらずだな！」のイアソンの良いやつ感が最高なんすよ
百戦錬磨の英雄&神たちからこの評価だから、バーサーカーじゃなかったらもうメタクソ強いんやろうなっていうのがわかるな
是非Fate/strangefakeを……
strangefakeのヘラちゃんはバケモン
まぁ、ヘラちゃんであってヘラちゃんじゃないんだけど
煽ったりとかもしてるけど泥混ざってもあの精神だから凄いよな。どっかの金ピカとは違う。
Jason and sitonai fighting about who knows Heracles better*
Heracles: * Happy Incoherent noises*
イリヤだけヘラクレスではなくバーサーカーなの好き。
Fun Fact: During the 5th HGW when Heracles was rampaging through, he and Medusa saw each other and the latter immediately retreats. She immediately knew who's she's facing and decided not to fight.
Which is pretty weird considering Perseus was Heracles' great grandfather so she could've never seen Herc during her lifetime
@@GBlockbreaker Herc spent time on the Argo, so yes she probably did see him during her lifetime.
@@stevefoster9302 no? Medusa was long dead before the Argo sailed
@@GBlockbreaker there are some alternate versions of the Argo story where Herc is part of the crew so I guess that’s what they went with
@@peanutsplatoon9826 yeah i know, i never said anything against that, wtf are you people on about?
We really need Alcides in the game so we can have a talking Herc. Seriously.
Can't wait for him...
I think he's one of DW trump cards (very very late later)
@@MundusFate I hope soon though 😃
@@Cra-b Melting down? Is that bad?
Isn't Alcides an anomaly? From what I remember, in the strange fake manga, Alcides is a by-product of corrupting Heracles that's summoned in the archer class, and if my speculations are correct, Alcides will be in the avenger class (correct me if I'm wrong)
@@_mortis__ technically speaking, he’s both an Archer-Avenger due to how he was corrupted.
イアソンが嬉しそうなのほんと好き
頼むから周年記念でアーチャーヘラクレス実装してくれ
最後のイリヤのセリフで涙腺がやばい
I'm happy to see our illya smile at Hercarles
B E R S E R C A R
BASAKA WA DARE NI MO MAKENAI. SEKAI DE ICHIBAN TSUYOI DAKARA!
I'm not crying, You are crying
Of course she would
"Hmmhmm... as I thought, Berserker is strong, isn't he?"
Illya/Sitonai has no qualms letting the player be Heracles' Master, seeing as she too is a Servant in this, and can tell that his powerful strength is appreciated.
凄すぎて主人公ポジにすると周りのキャラを動かせないから助っ人にするぐらいが良いと聞いたときなるほどなぁと思った
Small fact: Medea and Heracles were good friends and Heracles told her that if Jason ever betrayed her she could go look for him and he'd take care of her. However, when Medea found Heracles he had gone Berserk after killing his kids. Medea cured him, but since he became busy with his 12 works she ended up leaving. That may be why Medea is so keen to communicate with Heracles.
Is this in the real myth or just Fate?
@@francisong94 One of the real myths I believe? The guy married like 4-5 times.
@@Elmithian Oh thanks. I knew they were both in the Argo but not if they have interacted.
Another case of the Gods fucking over heroes
But why Stay Night Medea hates Heracles?
That fact that Heracles, even in his Berserker state, still feels uncomfortable around Chiron is rather sad. That event is permanently ingrained into any Heracles Saint Graph. Chiron is that parent who won’t be angry at his child even if they did something that negatively affects him by accident.
Anybody would be traumatized to see their father figure scream and whither to poison so harsh that he gave up his own immortality so Heracles would kill him, ending the pain. It is not a pretty sight to see.
Hera did nothing wrong too bersekers exist to be illya guard
More like Hera did EVERYTHING wrong !
@@Urd-Vidan And then years later Heracles died the same way.
After LB5.1 my opinion of Jason changed completely, it was nice hearing his reaction.
fact
Same, especially since he still possess memories of Okeanos Singularity
In strange fake even alcides likes him and warns his master not to insult him in fate myth jason was the few beings who treated Heracles like a person and believed in him even in okeanus
FGAO HELIX
みんなヘラクレスって言うのにシトナイ(イリヤ)だけバーサーカーって言うは色々思い出される
みんなほとんどヘラクレスがバーサーカー顕現で理性ないの残念がってるけど、イアソンだけ多分生前と同じ感じで接してるの、10年ぶりにあって見た目めっちゃ変わってるけど学生の時と同じテンションで接してくれる同級生って感じしてすこ
理性なくてもヘラクレス強いイリヤ守る姿忘れない
イアソンの喜びっぷり好き
Seeing Ilya smiles at Heracles warms my heart
What Iliya/Sitonai really thinks about Heracles: **inhales** BASAAKAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!
Alcides/Herc Archer will be a big news if he got a banner in FGO, but Stange Fake's author still abides on their rule of "I will finish this, then you got collab"
I wish he would just let Alcides in the game.
@@rejoicingfakepriest201 nah, but it will be worth it, imagine Jack Berserker, Hippolyta, and Lionheart in one event
@@exudeku as long as we get a great welfare servant to top it off I'd consider it worth it.
@@exudeku I don't think they'd release more than 3 Servants per event. That'd be a dream though.
@@rejoicingfakepriest201 dream... yeah...a dream...
Tristan, play Gatsu Theme.mp3
It never stops being weird to think about how Heracles, one of the strongest servants, recognized as one of the strongest servants in Fate by all the other servants, is a 4* servant in FGO.
I work it out as being that Heracles in his Berserker form just isn't as useful as many of his other classes. As an Archer he's noticeably far more proficient against Gilgamesh as Alcides shows, and as a Saber he'd gain an even stronger Anti-Magic presence on top of his peerless swordplay. Not to mention the number of mythical beasts he tamed he could potentially ride as NPs as a Rider. Even as just a Lancer or Assassin, his excellent spearwork and clever trickery from myth would make him extremely versatile.
All he can do in Zerker form is hit stuff, and tank stuff. *Really really well,* yeah, but even then limited by his Master. Like, Ritsuka's version of Heracles is notably weaker than Ilya's, given he lacks the 12 lives and instead has to make up with a damaging NP.
@@JacksonJinn Well alcides is completely different from archer hercules. If archer herc was summoned he wouldnt be able to use 12NPs. Thats why hes pretty confident against gil, especially since he can seal away Ea. Ofc archer herc woouldnt be a slouch but he wouldnt be talking that much crap
Not for me, I'm working towards getting him to lvl 120 now that the servant coins have been added. I love Heracles and everything goes to him ahhaha. Got bond 15, skils all 10 but sadly missing 1 copy of him to get np5
@@JacksonJinn I don't know about Ritsuka version though since they can just use Chaldea's mana reserve anyway. This is why in lots of events we had so many servants wandering around in the facility. Although if you think about game sense we can only get about 4 lives or guts not accounting for the guts skill cool down and take it as one use only
@@israelpadilla8126 Archer herc would still be talking mad shit cause he's stronger than berz herc
ヘラクレス優しい英雄だよ狂化されようともかっこいい強い
I don't know why but I'm imagining Heracles carrying Sitonai on his shoulder while Jason is being carried under arm with a big grin on his face. I'm also imagining the shadow/fragment of Heracles that Sitonai has fusing with Heracles to make a proper 5 star Heracles that has full God Hand and has maybe 2 Nine lives blades and or 1 Nine lives blade and the axe he has at 3rd+ ascension. He'd maybe have a buster np, 2 buster, 2 arts, and 1 quick cards.
overpowered but then again we have gilgamesh, living galaxies, void insects and reboot gods so yeah cmon aniplex/dw
I love how when castor sees pollux being flirty with herc he automatically assumes that they did the thing
普通にイリヤの声で
涙出てきたんだけど…止まんないこれ
I managed to solo the demon pillar Ozymandias used with level 60+ Heracles when all my other servants died
H-how? I stuck at that shit ngl
I did with sasaki kojiro. Riders are just swallows in disguise
@@user-fb5ir3zz8l *I mean everything is a swallow in disguise if you really think about it...*
Bright Red Cards. Best solution ever
His bond CE is too OP
Alcides on Fake/Strange Fake was so fire. Cant wait to have him on the game.
I know right?
Sooner we get the guy, the sooner we get to see people soloing a assload of bosses with the guy
ヘラクレス優しい英雄みんな慕われてるねこれにはイリヤトイアソン特ににっこりしてるのがいいね
アルゴノーツからの信頼が厚い
Miss Crane's possible reference: for his murder of Iphitus (induced by madness), Heracles was, by the command of the Delphic Oracle Xenoclea, remanded as a slave to Omphale for the period of a year. Heracles was forced to do women's work and even wear women's clothing and hold a basket of wool while Omphale and her maidens did their spinning.
Also in fate tiger colosseum herc regains his sanity and he's a tuxedo wearing dandy
Honestly would like if Heracles wives get included their merged into one Servant since their myths are so sparce besides hebe
神代の英霊や神霊の中に紛れ込むミスクレーン
最後のシトナイのセリフがあの光景を思い出して辛い
Funny how in real life, people refer to Heracles as "Hercules", the Roman version of himself
I think it's thanks to disney
@@Chillgamesh It was the TV series with Kevin Sorbo for me.
@@Chillgamesh now I remember my fav childhood game
A legend all the same
@@Vejitatheouji Absolutely that one for me. It wasn't the greatest show in history. But it was pretty fun and definitely helped fuel my appreciation of Heracles. Even though I also tend to just want to call him Hercules.
If they ever bring him in the game I feel like he would have to be a combination of xing huang xi and super Orión to do him justice
The FGO Arcade or the FGO Game?
Cuz he's both on it
Wait.. I thought Heracles IS in the game
Maybe a 5 Star Robin? I imagine since he has the hydra arrows whenever he does a face card attack the enemy becomes poisoned or something
@@degenerateprick3288
Yeah, but it's the Berserker version. There's a Archer version of him which still not available in FGO.
Technically alcides is weaker than normal archer herc
Hope they add his Archer self (and if they do, have him be a 5-Star Servant).
despite all the new servant coming into the game heracles is always the one saving my ass in the story quest, like bruh i'm not even doing that in purpose i just instinctivelly put him in the party at each final story quest boss and when everyone is dead he is the one finishing the job.
The tone of how Ilya said that to berserker felt like she had more to say but can't
That's actually the saddest line.
It's the last thing Ilya says before dying, after blinded and on death's door, crawling on the floor. she searches for Heracles hand and when she find it she says that phrase.
Pollux: heracles was a great warrior
Castor: did you smash?!
Pollux: die
No Alcides, no more Bsrsercules, we need an actual sane Heracles class already, if not Archer I'll gladly take Saber Heracles with Marmyadose.
Same. 😩🤝 We need Archer or Saber Heracles.
Same, i would like to see him as an Archer, Saber or Lancer
I'd honestly be more intrigued by an assassin heracles
@@GBlockbreaker
My headcanon for that is that he uses gauntlets and greaves laced with Hydra venom while doing pankration a lot.
@@agravain9006 I think he'd be a hunter that tracks prey and surprises it, he could have a noble phantasm unique to that class that makes it snow so much that nobody can run anymore besides heracles or it could just be dropping a rock on someone's back
Normal heracles already appeared in fate strange fake before being turned into alcides so hopefully we are having him in his heroic or at least in his alcides form one of these days. hopefully when the anime of strange fake airs
実はアーサー・ペンドラゴン〔プロトタイプ〕もヘラクレスについて「彼はバーサーカーなのかい？なるほど」とコメントしてる
I love that Medea voice line. 😩 Her voice actress is so good.
Her lines in the gudaguda singularities are always peak comedy.
-Please for the love of god(s) buff her aniplex-
そろそろ理性ヘラクレス来てもいいと思う
そんなんいたら一人でギリシャ異聞帯攻略しちゃうじゃん()
んじゃアサシンヘラクレスで()
エゴクレスでトンチキやりそう(性能はブッ壊れ)
話しが通じないか…俺イリヤのために力を使わなかった時めっちゃ好きなんだよね
話は通じないが心は通じてるんやで
Who else knows Japanese enough to understand the last line with sitonai plz raise your hands 🙌
HAI!!
「やっぱりバーサーカーは強いねー」って彼女は言ってますよ
As expected, berserker is really strong.
Somewhere around that because illya always say "Berserker is the strongest!".
I was literally just searching for this video yesterday and was disappointed when I couldn’t find it
Thanks for the upload!
Sitonai talking about Heracles is heartwarming..
The last one somehow give me happiness and depression at the same time
There are so many heroes that need to show in fgo...Charlemagne and Moses are the main ones I wish would come
Me gusta la idea que Jason e Illya/Sitonai, hagan un grupo de fans de Heracles xD
Suelo ponerlos juntos cuando juego.
Peth is in denial. Her sister had no beef with him in fact it was quite the opposite. And then along came Hera…
Goddess of Family Ruining amirite?
@@matthewbrune5490 most definitely
@@matthewbrune5490 Yeah...Hera isn't fond of Zeus's bastards as it is, but she had it out big-time for Herc in particular.
0:56 honestly kinda interesting here, since Hippolyta herself doesn't hold any grudges over her death and is still very fond of Herc
Love how despite of losing her reasoning and becoming a literal killing machine, everyone stills treats Basaka nicely (except of Penthe and adult Medea), I think Adult Medea hates Heracles for what happened on Stay/Night? or on that route were Kojirou had to solo Heracles using all of Medea's powers
I really need to grail my Heracles on NA, he has helped me so much with a lot of fights, will wait for more events to happen soon
Actually, Medea's hatred for Heracles has something to do with their legends. Medea Lily didn't know Heracles before, and that's why she doesn't have a problem with him. Adult Medea, on other hand...
I feel you on grailing Herc. Even now he's still often my anchor for tough fights. I think he actually was my finisher for Arjuna Alter...
She hate him because he is Jason best friend
@@vsksan7485 Makes sense, I guess there is a lot of reasons why Adult Medea hates Heracles
@@vsksan7485 I would say it's less hate and more not wanting to deal with him. Kinda like avoiding your ex best friend even if you already knew her.
I’m a little sad Penethesila calls Heracles enemy to her sister, since, at least from my understanding, Heracles was originally only taking the girdle through negotiations, not violence, until Hera got the Amazons all angry at him
I think Hippolyta is still smitten by Herc, so I'm excited for Hippolyta to come and join Chaldea. It would be pretty cool to see them interact(and sad, since Zerk Herc is probably the only one we'll be getting besides Alcides, so it'll be hard to make a Convo).
According to Fake, Hippolyta was killed by Herk, she mentions it the first time she appears when Gil says that shes below that man (Alcides) which she acknoledges
@@masterblaster5186 well in the the mythology, she did get killed by him. When the amazones got tricked by Hera and attack Herc, he drove them off and after that, kill hippolyta due to him though that she ordered them.
@@ahborn6961 Yeah. Hera has ISSUES regarding pretty much everyone Zeus fathers with other women, and she had a huge mad-on for Heracles in particular.
@@masterblaster5186 he thought she betrayed him because I think he liked her so thinking it was all a trap he killed her and took it
If we talk about who's the most famous hero in the classical age till to this modern time, it be without in doubt, Heracles or Hercules!
His legend is very highly spoken throughout the ages.
There was a time that the demigod would lived a happy life with his wife Megara and their 3 sons.
But in the Greek world? There no such thing as a happy ending especially being the son of Zeus.
Anyone that is mortal and their father is the King of Gods always end up as the target of Hera's wrath.
(Let's ignore what happened in God of War games about they turned the hero into that b*tch personal dog)
If we do get someday a servant once again from the Greek pantheon.
Let's really really hope that those deities personality are toned down a bit especially someone like Aphrodite or Zeus for that matter.
I mean after he died and became a pantheon of Olympus, Hera finally relented and since then has been more peacefull with him, the to even help eachother and Heracles sometime praise Hera too, one could say Hera is like a mother figure to Heracles. She even argee to let him married her daughter, goddess of eternal youth Hebe. Further more, in the Titanomachy, Heracles save Hera from one titan that wanted to rape her. But yes, all of the good time between the two happen after his mortal life end.
@@ahborn6961
The name Heracles means Glory to Hera, he changed his original name, i don't remember well which was before
@@NeozMax alcides, if i'm not mistaken.
@@ahborn6961 I still don't like what happened in the God of War.
@@rogueascendant6611 obv but its not like they didnt get some things wrong on it even the norse gods got done dirty when ironically they only fought the giants due to being targeted by them, and also its true That Heracles and Hera basically became best pals after his death
We all know Heracles would be at his best and mightiest in his Archer class. His Saber class would feature the legendary blade Marmyadose, a sword that exceeds Excalibur in every way.
Merdea see Heracles: *Vietnam's flashback*
バーサーカーになってもケイローン先生の前では気まずそうなの草
I really would love to see him in other classes once and for all, i know his archer form is out of the count until strange/fake is over, but what about saber or rider?.
Chiron: *Proud Sad Teacher Face*
Chiron's line hurt my heart a little 😢
Especially if you get his 'dislikes' voice line right after
Sin importar su forma Hércules es uno de los héroes más poderosos y grandes que existen
BASAKA !!
I can't wait for True Archer coming to FGO o(*≧▽≦)ツ
I'm surprised when it comes to Hippolyta's death, none of those pissed at Heracles/Herc for that don't voice their disdain for Hera and Zeus, Zeus for constantly cheating on Hera having her revenge filled mentally and Hera for taking this anger out on his kids for just being born when they didn't ask for it Hippolyta wouldn't have died if Hera didn't brainwash Herc to kill his family therefore he'd never have to do his 12 Labors
Every Illiya version knows how good Heracles is
強いだから
I think he's pretty good Servant
There weren't subs for Illya's lines but most of us still knows what she said...
I would call out Jason’s basic strategy is have Heracles do everything BUUUUUT, that is exactly what I do for Grail Frontline sooo
I find it interesting that Medea and Medea Lily have somewhat contrasting reactions towards the big guy lol
Edit: Archer Herc/Hippolyta when DW?
I think the author of Strange Fake asked to keep the servants he was using out of FGO until he finished his story; also I am pretty sure that same author is on hiatus right now
@@randomanimangathingsilike3838 What about the manga?
@@randomanimangathingsilike3838 Hopefully that means more chapters are coming soon.
Anywhere I can read the novels translated online?
@@randomanimangathingsilike3838 Legally or on a site?
@@randomanimangathingsilike3838 Name?
Heracles? Hmmm........ How do i describe... a giant like muscle immortal hero who carried me all over the Singularities untill the latest NA lb atlantis? Hes just the best berserker ever
I just hope i can hear him talking.. Despite his class being a berserker
If you're really desperate, look up the Shirou vs Berserker fight in the FSN Heaven's Feel movie. Just when he dies, Heracles speaks.
@@Urd-Vidan heracles has a whole bunch of dialogue in the first third of stay night as well, only in the second third, UBW, does he have no dialogue (in the anime at least)
Medea: Ew get that gross muscle guy away from me
Medea lily: I see this as an absolute win
何かのクエスト限定でいいから12の試練完全再現されたヘラクレス使わせてくれ
ネロ祭……
あれば敵だろ？
6章村正みたいにサポートで使いたいんだよ
I wonder how everyone is talking about Archer Hercules, when he’s not even in the game yet?🤨🤔🧐
Obrigado por traduzir os vídeos
I don’t need subs to know Illya is happy to see Herc again 😆
星4とは思えない横の繋がり
そろそろヘラクレスリリィ(ショタ)来てほしい…
最後のは我々の心に悲しい意味で効く
it really bummed me out how DW/Typemoon barely gave this guy some sort of content or general importance in story, when the dude genuienly one of known and popular hero in history. like they not even release another version of him or make story focus around him its just baffling
I feel the same way. It's such a total waste. Is he just really unpopular in Japan? I was pretty confident that he's one of the most popular mythological figures in the world. Guy should print money if they gave him a sane version and made him a 5*. But they just refuse to use him, even in stories where he'd make total sense.
Are they legally required to use the Strange Fake version before any other version of him? Just save the archer version for when that story is done. Everything else is on the table DW!
Looking at how they use the big name heroes, it's probably just an unspoken rule for Nasu to avoid relying on their fame, instead going for lesser figures like Mandricardo or at least famous but not world renowned characters like Billy the Kid
Also, he's kinda too powerful in some cases, they had to make put on a spot light for the other servants. There's a reason he was killed off screen by the gods themselves in LB5. Although, I am with you, I would love Herc in a story, especially as an Ally. Man, imagine we'd get sane Herc like what happened to Caligula in LB5.5.
@@Urd-Vidan heracles pseudo servant with divine spirit heracles inside him
@@Urd-Vidan same thing happened with achilles they literally had to nerf him and get rid of his armor so he's balanced
We still have a shot at a grand saber heracles i suppose.
I really wanted to hear more about Basaka from illya
Imagine Kratos as a servant in the Fate series
ZEEEEUUUUSSS !!!!! HEYY BOY WHERE'S THE OTHER BOY !!!
we need another Olympus xD
Young Kratos is just straight up Grand Berserker. He could wipe out the entire Lostbelt Olympus all by himself
@@omarzudan1743 I don't know. Maybe the other Gods, but LB Zeus? He's a Solar System buster. Way stronger than even a Planet destroyer.
I mean, considering Kratos is a divine spirit he'd prolly have to be a pseudo servant, did they ever mention anything about him or his siblings in part 2 of Lb5? I'm NA player so i wouldn't know yet
Tho he'd likely be on the side of the villains considering how it's always mentioned how he enjoyed "unnecessary violence" especially by Aeschylus
His sister Nike would be perfect as an ally tho considering she's always portrayed as not much of a fighter, just good enough to drive Zeus' chariot
I'm working on 120 rn.
And I really hope when they finally make another version of him in FGO it won't be Alcides cause I want the real Heracles not some corrupted form. . .
イアソンよりもヘラクレスのほうがクソデカ感情持ってるのが肝
00:53 sheeeeeeessshh . . . .
知性あるヘラクレスを見たいのでアサシンとかで実装されてほしい(個並感)
アーチャーだよね
タイコロアッパーで出てますよ。
フェイクにてアーチャーとしてのヘラクレスがアルケイデスって名前で出てますね、エアを抜いてない状態の満身してないギルですら苦戦させられるレベルのチートです、とゆうか文明の利器では傷つかない毛皮とか持ってるので非常にギルと相性が悪い
@@ks-kn8fe fakeのアルケイデスは純粋なヘラクレスじゃないからなぁ
強化された部分もあるけど、弱体化してるし、性格も変わってるから、純粋なアーチャーヘラクレスをfgoで見たい
@@Meleager-g5h もっと純粋なヘラクレス見たいのわかる。でもとりあえず召喚直後の数ページだけでも本来の姿を垣間見れたのは本当に良かった。成田先生最高だわ。
It's funny how a berserker like herc is tremendously more popular than Gilgamesh... Some times talking is not an advantage
That comes from Heracles being in a less controversial role.
Gil has trouble making friends, and girl problems considering the history between Artoria and him. Ishtar especially. I guess that golden rule can’t give him all the treasures.
Probably helps that he's not a genocidal maniac. Even if he's effectively a monster in Fate due to being a Berserker, there's still more humanity there than with Gilgamesh.
@@overlordwarlordtheomnilord9473 he doesn't have trouble making friends. Look at him and Alexander. It's not that he CAN'T make them. It's that he WON'T make them because Enkidu is the only person he will ever call friend
If you are talking in chaldea yeah maybe but as irl fanbase , no, gilgamesh is the most popular male servant
it was such a big miss to put Alcides in lostbelt 5 but super orion was already their so that would be awkward to have two 5 star archers
Emiya fights Heracles without hesitation in every Fate routes.
イリヤだけバーサーカーって呼ぶのエモエモのエモなのだ
fateアンリミテッドコードでライダーのメドゥーサがギリシャ最大の英雄から知性を奪うなんてもったいないといっていました。
Is a there a form of Hercules with all 12 np with god hand and stuff?
Fate/staynightで敵にヘラクレスがいると知った瞬間、メディアさんは＼(^o^)／状態になってそう
WoW thank you
やっぱ最強格、というか最強って評価を得てるんだな
シトナイのヘラクレスに対する反応がもうイリヤ
"It's a shame he's a berserker", I sure wonder what would happen if True Archer is in FGO.
Ahhhhhh, Satoni get me in the feels at the end