Vandoren BD5 vs D'Addario Reserve Evolution
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- Опубліковано 2 жов 2024
- Please take into account that I am not a really good clarinetist, so I can't unlock full mouthpieces potential.
Also, my current main mouthpiece is BD5, and I am not used to Reserve Evolution.
So, my preliminary thought is that I like more tonal characteristics of Reserve Evolution, but I feel more secure with BD5, especially legato and articulation.
PS. Sorry about me constantly turning from side to side 😆
Loved the sound you have with the Reserve Evo, way more colorful than with the "dull" sound of the BD5 (which is actually my main mouthpiece too.. ).
I guess i need to start searching for a new one ! Great video!
Thank's so much! Good luck with your search! ;)
Pienso que es bastante relativo encontrar una boquilla ideal. En mi caso siempre estoy probando y he logrado resultados.
La que me resulta más cómodo es la BD4 VANDOREN.
Ahora bien, en los últimos tiempos he escuchado a muchos colegas tocar y el resultado sonoro es complicado. Yo escucho ruidos accesorios conjuntamente con el tono principal.
MI perspectiva es que la cuestión radica en la emisión y la velocidad de la columna de aire. No creo que sea de la caña, ni de la boquilla hacia delante más bien pienso que hay que escuchar qué hacemos de la boquilla hacia atrás , qué se produce independientemente de otros factores objetivos y, subjetivos, y del material que se utilice. O sea que es fundamental el tipo de emisión con que se ejecuta.
Muy buen punto de vista , concuerdo , he estado buscando ( sin probar ) que boquilla seria la ideal , pero al final lo que determina que tan comodo se sienta con uno con la boquilla es de que manera estamos emitiendo el aire y que tan solida es nuestra columna de aire al tocar , la boquilla simplemente debe de hacernos mas facil la emisón y si acaso cambiar el timbre de nuestro sonido pero al final , como dices , hay que prestar atención a la manera en la que estamos suministrando el aire a la misma .
D'Addario. No doubts...
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I will do some research on it, thanks!
Les deux becs sont bien.... Pour moi plus de richesse de son dans le bec D'addario.. ce n'est que mon avis. Et j’ai les deux becs parmi tant d’autres....j’aime bien aussi le Masters CL6 Tous les becs sont bons... il faut trouver le bon c'est tout...
@@patricksautour5963 thank you for your response. I tend to agree with you ☺️
BD5 invalid mundstück, minimal resonanc
I love the BD5, but i need to use 4.5/5 strength reeds with it, any lower and it's too bright. Kanter is the king of mouthpieces imo.
Thanks for your comment! Lastly I am thinking that brightness (or edge) in sound is a good thing if sound still has some depth. I mean, dark sound is OK in close distance, but the futher from clarinet the worse "dark" sound is.
I love your sounds, btw, which brand clarinet do you have?
Thank you! It's Buffet Conservatoire
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D, adario
저는 BD5 쓰는 아마추어 초보자 입니다. 리드는 V12 3과1/2쓰구요. 이제 조금 적응이 되어 BD4로 바꿔보려던 참입니다. 귀하가 비교해주신 2개 모두 소리가 참 부드럽고 선명합니다. 좋은 동기를 주셔서 감사합니다. 구독 꾹 눌렀습니다^^
Thank you so much!
what music piece is that? 11:59
Hey, it's Weber Concertino, op 26
Are these BD mouthpieces by Vandoren significantly better than their standard mouthpieces like B40,B45,5RV lyra etc. ?
I would say BD's are just different and rather popular. Any of vandoren mouthpieces can be great, depending on your sound preferences, feeling preferences, playing style, etc.
@@alexeysclarinet9109 B40,B45 and 5RV Lyre are mouthpieces that I've played and did not like too much.
David Weber, known for his beautiful sound, played 5RV Lyre. I know this mouthpiece was a standard for some time ago. I also remember when B40 and B45 were standard.
So, I believe all these mouthpieces can be great. Maybe just conception of sound changed a bit nowadays and BD5 suits this conception better. I dunno 😃
@@alexeysclarinet9109 I know many clarinetist playing these and they sound beautiful. But almost none of my favorite players have been playing these mouthpieces. My main complaint when I've tried these is lack of finding good reeds to match. Personally I've had much better results with Charles Bay(my current mouthpiece) and Walter Grabner mouthpieces.
@klarinetta yeah, understood. I struggled to find a good reed for B45 or B40 as well.
Do you think you could use number 3 V12 on the Evolution or would be too light for It? I see some reviews saying It plays well with lighter reeds.. Did you try V12 #3 on the Evolution?
It seems to me that 3 is a bit soft. Also, I don't have 3 now. Though I have 3+ Fedotov reeds that fall between Vandoren V12 3 and 3 1/2.
So maybe I can give it a try with Evolution (I find it sounds not bad here at all)
@@alexeysclarinet9109 I hope you make a video playing that setup..
@@jimis3167 will do, I am interested as well how it will compare with B40D
@@alexeysclarinet9109 That's great!
@@alexeysclarinet9109 Vandoren really should have made 3+ strength in their reeds. 3.5+ V12 to me at least feel a little heavy for being mobile in playing. I think 3+ would be more useful over clarinetists and probably the sweet spot for many!
D'Addario Reserve classic reeds might actually play better than V12s. I discovered I already had some since years ago. I tried them yesterday and response was amazing! Though I've heard they don't last as long but I prefer the easiest response possible on a reed, even if I have to get new ones more frequently.
Yeah, that's possible. Though I was not happy with them 😢
@@alexeysclarinet9109 Which mouthpieces you tried them on? The known ones you play in video?
@@jimis3167 BD5, M30, M15, B40D
@@alexeysclarinet9109 I think they work with Reserve x5, M13, M13 Lyre pretty well.
@@jimis3167 that's great when you find a combination that works best for you!
D, adario
I think you'd like the BD4 more than BD5 and the D'addario. Whatever mouthpiece you try should be chosen between three or four of the same, they differ in playing even being the same.
Yeah, maybe I'll try BD4 some time
Nice playing. I just played a BD5 and a marble Evolution back to back and they were very different. Both excellent and free blowing compared to my 5RV Lyre and B45 (I own both but I do not like either one). The marble Evolution was very resonant and had great width and color. The BD5 more focused and compact. I liked both for different reasons. The BD5 played flat on my clarinet, though.
Thanks for sharing your experience. My BD5 isn't that flat, except throat tones. I'd like to test marble version of Evolution sometime 😀
Nice review. The tuning is better with the BD5, that is a bit lower, I think, than the D´addario. BD5 is offen a dull sound mouthpiece, but yours is really very colourful and vibrant. You are a lucky man. The D´addario on the other hand, sounds more constricted and tense, I mean, is very concentrated and has more high overtones, but sound more resistant...I recommend you for those mp to fix the tip of the reed, the first millimeter of the tip to get more response, and then the mouthpiece will response better, becouse the tend to be more resistant than Vandoren
Very nice playing!
@pablodevadder5109 thanks so much!
Yeah, evolution is more "bright", but now I am getting used to it and I believe with good reed selection (actually, relevant for any mouthpiece lol) this brightness and kind of stiffness will transform to ping or projection that should be OK in distance
@@alexeysclarinet9109 that "brilliant" concept is not always correct...we play french clarinet. It is constructed for sounding with ping and clarity...the evolution is an "evolution" of that concept of sound that is similar to 20' and 30" Chedeville mouthpieces, but with some modern flavor. I love reserve series. I didn't like evolution...is a more round and compact B40lyre, but I kept the X0 and the X5, and of course the M13lyre
@pablodevadder5109 I see what you are talking about. I had B40 but not B40Lyre. I never tried X0 or X5, unfortunately 😕
M13Lyre is really good, deep and focused.
I got the Evolution marble today and plays well with V12 number 3, they're little light but It sounds compatible with them. 3.5 are actually little heavy for It. Number 3 trimmed will be ideal. I'll make a video soon. It sounds really nice with silver BG tradition ligature and feels more comfortable than X0 and X5 which also surprisingly play more right with number 3.
How do you like it compared to M15 ?
@@alexeysclarinet9109 I probably like the Evolution with V12 number 3 more, I get more mobility and flexibility in my playing but will see that within time. Evolution mouthpiece earned Its place among my favourites, that's for sure, along with the M13, M13 Lyre and M15. Last place get the X0 and X5, even with number 3 they're not quite controllable like the Evolution is.
@@alexeysclarinet9109 Could be wrong but Evolution's beak also feels little narrower compared to X0 and X5 and I like that better, definitely not as narrow as Vandoren's profile 88 but better than other D'addario pieces.
@@jimis3167 got it, thank you!
@@alexeysclarinet9109 I already requested D'addario to make mouthpieces in 1.02 and 1.03 openings with long facing. They said will consider that. Would be super interesting because that rubber seems better quality compared to current Vandorens. Vandoren in the 70s and 80s had excellent pieces also made from rod rubber (now made of molded hard rubber). They had crystal ones and they also had similar material to marble Evolution, just in red/black rubber.
Pretty tricky to compare the two. Partly because the Reserve evolution is a 1.o8 tip whereas the BD5 is 1.15 which is going to make the playing of each different. I use the marbled edition of the reserve evolution which has a softer sound as you can hear in my live performance of the Mozart concerto on my UA-cam channel. Also be mindful that the reserve evolution comes in either 440 (EV10) pitch or 442 (EV10E)
The BD5 also comes in two different tunings. The 13 series (CM1405) uses American standard A440 tuning while the standard BD5 (CM1005) is tuned to a slightly higher pitch.
@@mazeradeville2911 440 is used in many countries across world including the UK but yes many know the 13 series of Vandoren mouthpieces are intended for 440 pitch whereas the standard pitch in France and other places in Europe is 442
@@Cornodebassetto I wouldn't say that 442 is standard at all. German orchestras historically tuned to 445+ while French and Italian orchestras tuned within the 430s. Some orchestras tuned to as high as A452. The advantage of having a mouthpiece tuned up is that you can make intonation adjustments by pulling out at the barrel. If you're pushed all the way in, only embouchure adjustments will be able to correct it. 440 has been the international standard tuning for decades, but there are still holdouts, most notably in Europe, who are reluctant to standardise, hence the need to have equipment tuned above A440 for certain applications. Americans have pretty much entirely switched over to the A440 standard hence why Vandoren markets their series 13 mouthpieces as "diapason americain"
@@mazeradeville2911 thanks for the history lesson. I’m well aware as a professional and someone that has played historical instruments professionally. There are predominately three tuning pitches in use currently, 440, 442 and 445/445 (Germany and Vienna). I haven’t included high pitch which of course was a standard pitch in the 1890s turn of the 20thC. It wasn’t until the 1920s /30s that 440 was standardised in Europe and then the US. But of course the US isn’t completely standardised currently with many orchestras like the NY Phil and LA Phil playing at 442.
@@Cornodebassetto Well there will always be conservatives and contrarians who refuse to conform to modern norms. If you are well aware of the controversies that have led to our current deviations from what was meant to be a standard, that's all that matters. I was simply pointing out that the BD5 also comes in two different tunings just as the Reserve Evolution mouthpiece does.
Salve , che apertura ha il Daddario ?
Hi, I believe it's 1.08mm, medium-long facing
What you think between BD5 and B45 Lyre?
I only played B45 Lyre in my early student days. As far as I remember it was very resistant, but with good reed I had good big round sound that also carried well in a big concert hall. It required very good and strong embouchure and breathing.
@@alexeysclarinet9109 ok thank you. And BD5 do you like it?
@@rubensousa3466 It's a good mouthpiece. Though I bought several new mouthpieces lately (Selmer Focus, M15 13 Series, M30, B40D) and I prefer them over BD5.
My last favorite that I am not going to change at least for now is B40D.
Compared to the above-mentioned mouthpieces, BD5 seems to lack some colors in tone, though it's a very secure mouthpiece that holds tone really well.
@@alexeysclarinet9109 ok thank you
Was there difference in resistance? I'm new to a BD5 and find it tiresome to play to keep the sound I want, even when dropping reed strength.
With the same reed, for me, BD5 is easier to blow and sound is more "dark". On Reserve Evolution, I need to push harder and sound feels "brighter"
@alexeysclarinet9109 You should say all that in the video! There's only so much you can convey to viewers through playing alone. We hear your sound, but we can't understand the experience unless you also provide an explanation.
@@j.r.1210 Agree, but I feel shy a bit with my English and pronunciation lol
Reed used?
V12 3.5
@@alexeysclarinet9109 Also ideal for BD4. #3 for BD7.
@@jimis3167 got it, thanks!
Which reed did u use?
I don't remember, but most likely, vandoren either v21 or v12 . Strength 3.5