From Shaheen Bagh to Bollywood, read about how the resistance has been led by females: www.filmcompanion.in/from-shaheen-bagh-to-bollywood-this-resistance-is-female/
what is this a joke or what? Discussing right wing politics and act as if left is doodh ke dhule. u guys are flushing ur self down the drain from film to politics. You are trying to become the catalyst #anupama to polarize the industry. Left always does it, only if I bad mouth BJP I will be hero in ur elite class.
Thank you Anupama for getting Nagraj into the discussion. His insight is so important and so painful. ❤️ It is so important for such voices to be heard!
Manjule what a person, his answers for almost all the questions is just so so thoughtful. Standout for sure. One dont need to be fluent in English to sound intellectual. Loved this discussion. Even the thoughts of Vetri Sir, though haven't seen any of his movies. Good going FC. Keep them coming. Today I am going to subscribe your channel, though have watched several videos in the past.
We should applaud Film Companion for bringing these gems of Indian Film Industry together and talk about such relevant and brave topic! Thanks for this conversation. And yes! Nagraj Manjule said Million Dollar thing, Jailor is changing and it doesn't matter to me anymore. I just want to get out of the jail.
True, but sometimes they have so much to say and some people speak little more, and Dibakar Banarjee is one such director who has done so so many experiment with the kind of films that he has made
It would've have been a historical & complete panel about political movie if Pa. Ranjith and Anurag Kashyap were there. Anyway had a great time listening to them, especially nagraj sir & vetrimaran sir...🙏🏽
Nagraj manjule is a grate thinker, and the best communicator to have the conversation. 👏👏 I'm a fan of his calmness and composer to answer the questions. 👍🤗
11years before Sairat a quiet tamil film called "Kaadhal" (Love) had come with which Sairat finds similarities. Produced by the guy who made Robot and 2.0, it ushered a new wave in Tamil cinema. A rich liquor store owner's high school daughter falls for a mechanic, elope from the town of Madurai to the city of Chennai and the ugly head of caste wakens back home. Gut wrenching and real, it was a sleeper hit, for the first time using gritty film making techniques and achieving cult box office status without being masala. Do look for it.
Fandry is good no doubt. Sarait is like little bit filmy but Fandry is more and more real and touches directly heart. Cinematography of Sarait is very good ,cinematogtrophy of Fandry some what poor.
Yep, invite another bunch who don't try to package them and are more raw in their approach. Though I am more like Dibakar in terms of my own filmmaking style but I still love and respect the style of Anurag. Sometimes a point has to be made didactically in order it to be powerful.
@@sureshabi3636 without caste there is no politics in India. You go through all elections and political history of india. you will find out how caste play major role.
@@sureshabi3636 if you remove religion and caste from politics.... even thats called politics. Its integral part of Indian politics. Right from Ambedkar changing his religion due to caste.... cause there is no independence from caste.
@@shyamhulloli5739 Ranjith takes only political films, so he is boss for others it's Genre and for Ranjith it's style or signature, also ppl can't tolerance when they see such movies getting success
Nagraj Manjule manages to remain so authentic despite a monstrous Sairat,no offense to other Directors here but they all pale in comparison,Fandry was an Oscar worthy movie.highly recommended!
Dear Film Companion! Just as a suggestion, how about having a roundtable interview with the documentary filmmakers such as Anand Patwardhan, Rakesh Sharma, Stalin etc., the way once you interviewed shortfilm makers.. I am sure not many people will watch it but as an attempt..
Manjule is more mature in this group.. very sorted out person..they started this discussion with mentioning being political system unfriendly but concluded this best time for flim makers n so many good film had came in past few years
I see many comments of pple asking for pa.ranjith.. I think thats the impact he made and he wants us to create a discussion. For me I like Madras which is a masterpeice💙
such a great discussion, i'll try checking out every film they've all made as soon as i can. Film companion please keep producing and arranging these important discussions among these and many wonderful filmmakers as much as you guys can.
I moot you to watch FC South too ... Mal movies are top notch ... When I hear Madhavan, Vetrimaaran and other Tamil directors, Vijay Sethupathi, I am imported to a different world. So will you ☺️
How beautifully Nagraj Majule articulates his thoughts and life experiences. Errrggghhh... When Dibakar cuts him in 55:27 when he was to say something about cloning Sairat for commercial purpose. 😒😒😒
Wow good to see Vetrimaran Sir here. He is a genius. Thanks film companion for the concept and discussion. Expecting more like this in near future with all film industry writers and other technicians. All the best.
Good to see Nagraj Manjule Sir after a long time. I'm a Delhiet, I don't understand Marathi well enough but my fav film is Sairat. Manjule Dada is my fav director.
Anubhav Sinha, Dibakar Banerjee, Nagraj Manjule, Nandita Das and Vetri Maaran. What an Amazing Panel! 🙌 Thanks FC for continuing to bring more and more talents from Non-Hindi Film Industries too. Absolute love Vetri Sir and Nagraj Sir's work. Loved to see them here with other 3 people from Bollywood that I really admire. 🙏
Such a pleasure to get introduced to Nagraj Manjule - a superb verbal communicator! So are his films, I hope, that I am yet to discover. All others in this show can learn a thing or two from him.
This discussion could not have come at a better time. So relevant to the times we are living in. Everyone is somehow trying to make sense of accepting and living with what is going on right now !!
Thank you Anupama for this. I want to address Nandita and Anubhav over the thing that they said about caste and class overlap. Being myself a tanner (chamar) I assure you that social mobility is not a subset of economic capital. Capital doesn't alone drive social mobility. Cultural capital (ie Bhrahminical culture) might do that to a very little extent. I can substantiate that with tens of personal life experiences. Having grown up in urban landscape in a lower middle class family, my experiences with caste are just the same as Nagraj has put up into this conversation. The immediate problem for us is not Godzila itself. My whole life has been defined by my caste up until now, from siblings, to kinship, to marriage to family friends to even friends. It panders from your kitchen to university campuses. The understanding of caste system can't be derived from immediate discrimination of things like not allowing to draw water from well but it is about the whole system and how it is pushing particular caste in particular direction. It is about representation. Think about it, does it makes sense that 88% male parliamentarians are making legislations for a society where 50% are women ?? Does it make sense that more than 50% Judges in Supreme court are just Bhramins (not even other caste from savarna) those have been given responsibility to uphold the Constitution ?? Is there fundamentally anything wrong with women and lower caste people to make up to the courts or parliament ? No !!!! This is the system that I am talking about.
@Bloater 46 Go ahead. I can write about reservation all day. I must ask you to read various studies done regarding reservation and how it has succeeded in many of its aims despite being not implemented properly. Take Nepal for study which has similar social structure (caste hierarchy) and there is no reservation. Studies have shown that their inequality gap has only increased. And take States like Tamil Nadu where it is believed that reservation is implemented better than other states has shown decrease in inequality and in Kerela also. There is so much anger and misinformation professed regarding reservation in the country that people taking its benefit are made to feel like shit. Do you EWS category students will have to face such things as well ?? Let's see how much job does reservation actually covers ??? Only 8% jobs are under organized sector, of which only 3% is government owned, of which only 1% is available for direct recruitment (2% is under promotion, where there is no reservation) , of which 0.5% seats are reserved, of which only 0.25% seats are properly filled. This 0.25% population is reserved for 80% (ST, SC, OBC) of India. In other words such small number of jobs are reserved coveres almost all of the India still there is no much fuss about it. This tiny fraction of reservation for huge population has helped many people to come and be a part of public parks and play with their children along with others and have broken stereotypes...
Hey nilesh what insight you have given to the issue which is still considered by the filmmakers to make film....U must b sociologist who knows what is happening to the root level...Thanx for such thoughtful insight...
Very glad vetri entered this elite talk show - the world only knows Hindi-English speaking art/documentary movie directors - a South Indian English speaking art director means someone like Mani ratnam - this is a big step vetri!!!!!! These North Indian artsie directors don’t see reality and not subjective. Vetri you nailed it!!! Only sane people are Nandita, vetri and manjule - the other two directors are toooo elite
What Nagraj Manjule said was so brilliant and relatable. 🙌 And what everyone else was equally interesting. Such an amazing conversation. Thanks FC for making this possible. 🙏
Everyone who is here fan of Nagraj must read his Poetry. "उन्हाच्या कटा विरुद्ध" . He is just fabulous Poet. Like that Jail and Jailer comparison with society. I'm just happy these people are comfortably talking about cast, gender, Rich, poor. Indian Cinema is changing.
Winners: 1. Nagraj Manjule 2. Vetrimaran 3. Nandita Das Dibakar interrupted many times to make his point which neither of them did. P.S : Big fan of Vetrimaran and Nagraj Manjule from Tamil Nadu
It's not a wrestling or debating completion dude..where one needs to.topple the other..this is a typical Indian mentality of choosing the winners and disparaging the losers..they r not sitting there to win points from you they r there they are paid and invited..take what u can or don't take what u can't from their discourse they give a flying fuck..as u r not their financer
Did anyone notice that Nagraj Manjule said "Osmanabad"; when he was narrating the stone-pelting incident (37:38) and the film companion subtitled that as "Husnabad" 🤣🤣🤣
@@bhushansurya7821 Been seeing this for quite a while now so just a thought my friend. Remember we had that marathi saying in school textbooks - 'hota jeeva mhanun vachla shiva'. Did we get up and correct our teachers to change that to 'Chatrapati shivaji maharaj'? I don't remember anybody taking any offence in that sentence. And I think that's because he wasn't just a king we respected, but the king we truly loved. Many literatures call him a variety of names, shiva, shivraya, shivaji, shivba, shivaji Raja, raja shivchatrapti, chatrapati shivaji and countles others.. Calling him by his first name, shiva, sometimes feels even more personal and loving than Chatrapati shivaji maharaj or chatrapati shivaji raje bhonsale etc etc. These are notions propelled by political parties by asking people to address him a certain way. Wasnt the case before 2010 atleast when we had chatrapti shivaji terminus CST for many years and no one had a problem with that. If politicians really had respect, they would govern the way he used to, rather than just calling his name a certain way! Even when your read many many acclaimed and praised literatures on him written by legends like babasaheb purandare and ranjit desai, at one point they all address him by words like 'Jijau cha shivba' etc. And I feel that infact brings us closer to the king. There have been so many kings in history, but its only our beloved king shivaji whom we feel more personal too.
This is so amazing to watch! Like Anubhav has watch Vetrimaaran's movies. Dibakar understands what everyone is saying. Nandita is making good points and contributing effectively. Nagraj Manjule is amazing! Explained the point of making caste system related movies so welll. Everyone has watched everyone s movies! It will be rare to see this with actors.
While watching this, can't help but think of Kamal Haasan who had every mob threatening him in the past for different films. The Muslims (for Vishwaroopam), the Hindus (for Hey Ram), the casteist mobs from rural Tamil Nadu (films like Thevar Magan, Virumandi). And the biggest of them all, the political parties. Yet he had the conviction and acumen to boldly use his craft to expose different harsh realities that the society is plagued with. He will never shy away in doing this. Importantly he financed himself. He has equally churned out mainstream films loaded with cheese to earn and feed the film star in him , who in turn finances the bold filmmaker in him. Somewhere in this video I was waiting for his reference because nobody else in this country would have faced bans, court cases, religious heat, hatred from political parties as much as he did. Somewhere he became the seeds for change these filmmakers were talking about in this show. Btw excellent discussion FC. P.s. Also I was waiting for pariyerum perumal referred somewhere. A movie everyone should watch.
I am from West of India grown up watching Bollywood films but I think he is the most versatile actor ever to be born in India...nobody can match him not even in Bollywood. He acts, he dance, he writes and also he directs as well as produce movies. The only actor whom I consider close to him is "CHIYAAN VIKRAM" (Kennedy John Victor).
I agree to your point and also not agree to some of it.. the reason why there is no reference because the films these filmmakers made are good films not pathbreaking films like kamalhasan's.. secondly most of the questions directed towards the current situation n current political climate that is why there is no reference.. if kamalhasan had been an arthouse filmmaker like shyam benegal none of his films would have run into trouble.. as per his own confession kamalhasan hates the word art films.. he always wanted to be a mainstream filmmaker where he pushed the people's tastes.. good that he ran into these problems we got the true nature of the society n political background of our country.
For Those who Came here For Nagraaj Manjule ❤❤ Timeline Question-13:07 Answer-13:37 Nagraaj sir share some experience here: 22:55 Question-36:26 Answer-36:41 Question-58:46 Answer-1:01:13 All are great here, but Nagraaj sir is Favorite.❤❤
Interesting thing is that they are accepting, that they are also playing elite and privilege politics, coming to the point of the representation of dalit, which need to be head subject to discussion. Nandita is right about art that you can't categorize an art in single plate.
@@imonceagainaskingforyourfi4432 agreed Asuran was a very apt portrayal if at all anybody doesnt know about the struggles the lower caste went through, thats one of the films I want them to watch..
Most-appropriately spoken: 1. Mr. Nagaraj (this guy's a 10/10 for the clarity in his thoughts.. and I don't even follow Hindi (relied on subs)) 2. Ms. Nanditha 3. Mr. Vetri 4. Mr. Abhinav 5. Mr. Dibakar
From Shaheen Bagh to Bollywood, read about how the resistance has been led by females:
www.filmcompanion.in/from-shaheen-bagh-to-bollywood-this-resistance-is-female/
what is this a joke or what? Discussing right wing politics and act as if left is doodh ke dhule. u guys are flushing ur self down the drain from film to politics. You are trying to become the catalyst #anupama to polarize the industry. Left always does it, only if I bad mouth BJP I will be hero in ur elite class.
@@MarathaRoyals Itne pareshan kyo ho Bhaiya? Kis baat ki bhadaas hai itni? Kya hindu khatrein mein hein?
If I wanted a political view I wouldn't come here. Just give me Cinema here, not politics please
@@pinakbhende5058 cinema is a reflection of life and nowadays politics is a huge part of our life
@@pinakbhende5058 Then you can just skip this one interview right?
Nagraaj Manjule and Vetri Maaran should have separate interviews
Vetri maaran....not raaman bro....
Maaran not raaman bro
exactly 2 similar people and 2 legends in the making
@@arunchandran9259 Freudian Brahminical slip!!
yes...they can't because title is political, not social/humanistic......racist/classist/groupist
I came here only for Vetrimaran and Nagraj Manjule. Those guys are in a league of their own! 🙂
You can watch this diary film too... * It's on pandemic life of India ...*
>> ua-cam.com/video/U9HiDhz4KTU/v-deo.html
His upcoming movie Ghar Banduk Briyani Pan India Release 🔥
Everyone of them is great but *VETRIMARAN IS A BLOODY GENIUS* 💥
Shammi mudi vetteele?
Felt only visaranai is great. Rest of them are good but not great for me . Watch nagraj's fandry and sairat
@@Pranav-r9u I thought VadaChennai was fab👌
Aadukalam is still his best IMO. All of his movies are classics though.
@pranav, Have you watched Aadukalam & Vadachennai, you dumbass
Nagaraj Manjule is such a pure heart and it was a delight to hear every time he spoke.
Ghar Banduk Briyani His Upcoming Pan India Movie 🔥
For Those who Came here For Vetrimaaran
❤❤
2:05
25:10
31:45
33:10
41:40
50:00
59:00
SUPER
Thanks bruh
Thanks 👌👌👌
Nandri
Please listen to others too. They also make sense
Nagraj Manjule, hold on to your purity sir.. You are a force
He's a storm 💯
I am Sure Nagraj Manjule have ability to take Indian Cinema to next Level.....Everyone must watch his Masterpiece "Fandry"
Which language and where to watch?
@@adis2024 It's Marathi movie
Couldn't find in Netflix 🙄
@@amritanag1668 watch on einthusan
Vada Chennai is a piece of art !!
Thank you Anupama for getting Nagraj into the discussion. His insight is so important and so painful. ❤️ It is so important for such voices to be heard!
Very True
Vetrimaran not interfering anytime displays his listening skills. Genius 🔥
@Akash Akks cause he is not comfort with others languages
@Akash Akks yeah I too know but I'm telling that most of them having conversation in hindi
bruh
Group discussion you didn't know I think
he interfers everytime in south roundtables
Why always Hindi Directors talk too much but the regional directors steal the show...wow..amazed
Nagraj Anna is ours. People from Solapur love him so much no one knows. Also respect to Veeti Tamil director
@@panash6 vetri
Hindi is also a regional language
You can watch this diary film too... * It's on pandemic life of India ...*
>> ua-cam.com/video/U9HiDhz4KTU/v-deo.html
@@pheonixd2 which other language in India is spoken by nearly 44 percent of India's 1.4 billion population 😎
Nagaraj Manjule .....Please make a separate interview with him mam....I could hear him all day.....
Ohh.. Me too brother. He's a genius
bhau manatla bolla
👍
Nagraj Manjule was the most impressive one...
such wise words !!!
I came here to listen to The Great Nagraj Manjule..., he is an Inspiration...!!!
The best line comes from #NagrajManjule...You don't need the courage to tell about humanity.
"Mai to jail Mai hi Hu bus jailer badal jate hai " ... These words hit like a truck
Nagraj Manjule stills the show. Talks straight from the heart.....!
*steals
Nagraj Manjule *steals* the show
What a great bunch!! Nagraj are you for real?? Innocence and Intellect at the same time!!!
Need of the hour interview 🙌🏻👏🏻Nagraj manjule take a bow! 👏🏻👏🏻
Absolutely
Please make a separate video with Nagraj Manjule....
You can watch this diary film too... * It's on pandemic life of India ...*
>> ua-cam.com/video/U9HiDhz4KTU/v-deo.html
*Comment section*
50% Nagraj Manjule
50% Vetri Maaran
Regional cinema 1
Bollywood 0
It's gonna be like that forever
You can watch this diary film too... * It's on pandemic life of India ...*
>> ua-cam.com/video/U9HiDhz4KTU/v-deo.html
bollywood is also a regional cinema
@@manojadithya3672 Fact
@@manojadithya3672 is bjp and Congress also regional parties?
Nagraj manjule and vetrimaran genius
Like here
You can watch this diary film too... * It's on pandemic life of India ...*
>> ua-cam.com/video/U9HiDhz4KTU/v-deo.html
Vetrimaran Sir has a very beautiful way of portraying relatable story with his cinema.
I'm a simple man, i see Vetri Maaran, i click on the video.
Manjule what a person, his answers for almost all the questions is just so so thoughtful. Standout for sure.
One dont need to be fluent in English to sound intellectual. Loved this discussion. Even the thoughts of Vetri Sir, though haven't seen any of his movies.
Good going FC.
Keep them coming. Today I am going to subscribe your channel, though have watched several videos in the past.
OMG Vetrimaran sir is in interview, he is a bloody genius man👏👏👏👌🙏👍
We should applaud Film Companion for bringing these gems of Indian Film Industry together and talk about such relevant and brave topic! Thanks for this conversation.
And yes! Nagraj Manjule said Million Dollar thing, Jailor is changing and it doesn't matter to me anymore. I just want to get out of the jail.
"Mitron" bar and cafe.
Quite coincidental..
Perhaps ironical.
Hah!
Ironical as hell!
No coincidence. It's sarcasm at its best
Mr. Dibakar Banarjee needs to relax a bit, sit back and listen to Sir Nagraj Manjule.
True, but sometimes they have so much to say and some people speak little more, and Dibakar Banarjee is one such director who has done so so many experiment with the kind of films that he has made
It would've have been a historical & complete panel about political movie if Pa. Ranjith and Anurag Kashyap were there. Anyway had a great time listening to them, especially nagraj sir & vetrimaran sir...🙏🏽
missing pa ranjith sir in the panel
Nagraj manjule is a grate thinker, and the best communicator to have the conversation. 👏👏 I'm a fan of his calmness and composer to answer the questions. 👍🤗
The Sairat director, to this day I haven't found a film that impresses me like Sairat did.
Try watching fandry it is better
11years before Sairat a quiet tamil film called "Kaadhal" (Love) had come with which Sairat finds similarities.
Produced by the guy who made Robot and 2.0, it ushered a new wave in Tamil cinema.
A rich liquor store owner's high school daughter falls for a mechanic, elope from the town of Madurai to the city of Chennai and the ugly head of caste wakens back home.
Gut wrenching and real, it was a sleeper hit, for the first time using gritty film making techniques and achieving cult box office status without being masala.
Do look for it.
Fandry was great
Fandry is good no doubt. Sarait is like little bit filmy but Fandry is more and more real and touches directly heart. Cinematography of Sarait is very good ,cinematogtrophy of Fandry some what poor.
There can be another volume of the same theme, With people like Pa. Ranjith , Anurag Kashyap, etc
Yep, invite another bunch who don't try to package them and are more raw in their approach. Though I am more like Dibakar in terms of my own filmmaking style but I still love and respect the style of Anurag. Sometimes a point has to be made didactically in order it to be powerful.
without director pa ranjith it's incomplete to talking about political films in India.
His politics oly spks abt caste but ntg else
@@sureshabi3636 without caste there is no politics in India. You go through all elections and political history of india. you will find out how caste play major role.
@@sureshabi3636 if you remove religion and caste from politics.... even thats called politics. Its integral part of Indian politics. Right from Ambedkar changing his religion due to caste.... cause there is no independence from caste.
@@shyamhulloli5739 Ranjith takes only political films, so he is boss for others it's Genre and for Ranjith it's style or signature, also ppl can't tolerance when they see such movies getting success
He would've spoiled the entire conversation by speaking just caste politics and not about other issues
ohh Vetrimaran it is !!!!
Vetrimaran is absolutely brilliant filmmaker!
Nagraj Manjule manages to remain so authentic despite a monstrous Sairat,no offense to other Directors here but they all pale in comparison,Fandry was an Oscar worthy movie.highly recommended!
Dear Film Companion! Just as a suggestion, how about having a roundtable interview with the documentary filmmakers such as Anand Patwardhan, Rakesh Sharma, Stalin etc., the way once you interviewed shortfilm makers.. I am sure not many people will watch it but as an attempt..
Manjule is more mature in this group.. very sorted out person..they started this discussion with mentioning being political system unfriendly but concluded this best time for flim makers n so many good film had came in past few years
Political filmmakers adda without Pa Ranjith and Rajeev Ravi feels incomplete
I see many comments of pple asking for pa.ranjith.. I think thats the impact he made and he wants us to create a discussion. For me I like Madras which is a masterpeice💙
Yeah,all his movies spoke much needed politics. It's a shame he wasn't invited :/
such a great discussion, i'll try checking out every film they've all made as soon as i can. Film companion please keep producing and arranging these important discussions among these and many wonderful filmmakers as much as you guys can.
I moot you to watch FC South too ... Mal movies are top notch ... When I hear Madhavan, Vetrimaaran and other Tamil directors, Vijay Sethupathi, I am imported to a different world. So will you ☺️
How beautifully Nagraj Majule articulates his thoughts and life experiences. Errrggghhh... When Dibakar cuts him in 55:27 when he was to say something about cloning Sairat for commercial purpose. 😒😒😒
Most deep and thoughtful things said by Nagraj Manjule. Nandita Das made the most practical and honest comments. Nice session!
Film Companion Where is Pa.Ranjith?! He is Master In Making Political Films.. ?! Missing Him a Lot In these Discussions
I am SUCH A HUGE Nagraj Manule and Nandita Das fan! Much love
Wow good to see Vetrimaran Sir
here. He is a genius. Thanks film companion for the concept and discussion. Expecting more like this in near future with all film industry writers and other technicians. All the best.
Good to see Nagraj Manjule Sir after a long time. I'm a Delhiet, I don't understand Marathi well enough but my fav film is Sairat. Manjule Dada is my fav director.
Vetrimaran!!🔥❤️
Nagaraj manjule sir love from Tamil Nadu💓💓💓
Waiting for jhund🔥
dhanyavad bhava
Anubhav Sinha, Dibakar Banerjee, Nagraj Manjule, Nandita Das and Vetri Maaran. What an Amazing Panel! 🙌 Thanks FC for continuing to bring more and more talents from Non-Hindi Film Industries too. Absolute love Vetri Sir and Nagraj Sir's work. Loved to see them here with other 3 people from Bollywood that I really admire. 🙏
What a Frame of Filmakers!! great to see Nagaraj and Vetri sharing a frame with other Hindi movie greats.
Such a pleasure to get introduced to Nagraj Manjule - a superb verbal communicator! So are his films, I hope, that I am yet to discover. All others in this show can learn a thing or two from him.
Vetri Maaran's Asuran is a masterpiece.
வெற்றி காக மட்டுமே!
Vetrimaaran is freakin genius🖤🔥
With due respect to Other directors Nagraj and Vetrimaran are legends in making... 🙌
Nagraj Manjule is genius...He is so simple that is his USP which is reflect in his films...You can watch his movies multiple times...
It feels so good to see nagraj among these amazing directors. I admire all of their movies..
learn so much from Nandita Das and Nagraj Manjule everytime
Came here for one one only gem of Tamil cinema vetrimaran and happy to see great directors of Indian cinema
bollywood director so much talk art... but regional director sits quiets and listens... that art....
This discussion could not have come at a better time. So relevant to the times we are living in. Everyone is somehow trying to make sense of accepting and living with what is going on right now !!
Thank you Anupama for this. I want to address Nandita and Anubhav over the thing that they said about caste and class overlap. Being myself a tanner (chamar) I assure you that social mobility is not a subset of economic capital. Capital doesn't alone drive social mobility. Cultural capital (ie Bhrahminical culture) might do that to a very little extent. I can substantiate that with tens of personal life experiences. Having grown up in urban landscape in a lower middle class family, my experiences with caste are just the same as Nagraj has put up into this conversation. The immediate problem for us is not Godzila itself. My whole life has been defined by my caste up until now, from siblings, to kinship, to marriage to family friends to even friends. It panders from your kitchen to university campuses. The understanding of caste system can't be derived from immediate discrimination of things like not allowing to draw water from well but it is about the whole system and how it is pushing particular caste in particular direction. It is about representation. Think about it, does it makes sense that 88% male parliamentarians are making legislations for a society where 50% are women ?? Does it make sense that more than 50% Judges in Supreme court are just Bhramins (not even other caste from savarna) those have been given responsibility to uphold the Constitution ?? Is there fundamentally anything wrong with women and lower caste people to make up to the courts or parliament ? No !!!! This is the system that I am talking about.
Such a great insight into caste
@@danielwalter2001 glad
@Bloater 46 Go ahead. I can write about reservation all day. I must ask you to read various studies done regarding reservation and how it has succeeded in many of its aims despite being not implemented properly. Take Nepal for study which has similar social structure (caste hierarchy) and there is no reservation. Studies have shown that their inequality gap has only increased. And take States like Tamil Nadu where it is believed that reservation is implemented better than other states has shown decrease in inequality and in Kerela also.
There is so much anger and misinformation professed regarding reservation in the country that people taking its benefit are made to feel like shit. Do you EWS category students will have to face such things as well ?? Let's see how much job does reservation actually covers ???
Only 8% jobs are under organized sector, of which only 3% is government owned, of which only 1% is available for direct recruitment (2% is under promotion, where there is no reservation) , of which 0.5% seats are reserved, of which only 0.25% seats are properly filled. This 0.25% population is reserved for 80% (ST, SC, OBC) of India. In other words such small number of jobs are reserved coveres almost all of the India still there is no much fuss about it. This tiny fraction of reservation for huge population has helped many people to come and be a part of public parks and play with their children along with others and have broken stereotypes...
Hey nilesh what insight you have given to the issue which is still considered by the filmmakers to make film....U must b sociologist who knows what is happening to the root level...Thanx for such thoughtful insight...
Very glad vetri entered this elite talk show - the world only knows Hindi-English speaking art/documentary movie directors - a South Indian English speaking art director means someone like Mani ratnam - this is a big step vetri!!!!!! These North Indian artsie directors don’t see reality and not subjective. Vetri you nailed it!!! Only sane people are Nandita, vetri and manjule - the other two directors are toooo elite
I think Pa Ranjith too should have been invited. I am so happy that Nandita recognized his work and mentioned his name.
Has to be one of the most intelligent set of film makers and actors!!!!
What Nagraj Manjule said was so brilliant and relatable. 🙌 And what everyone else was equally interesting.
Such an amazing conversation. Thanks FC for making this possible. 🙏
HIS UPCOMING MOVIE GHAR BANDUK BRIYANI PAN INDIA RELEASE 🔥
Loved Diwakar bannerjee's Anurag's bit in Ghost stories. Dibakar specially was outstanding. Weaving caste and honor killing in a horror narrative
Everyone who is here fan of Nagraj must read his Poetry. "उन्हाच्या कटा विरुद्ध" . He is just fabulous Poet.
Like that Jail and Jailer comparison with society.
I'm just happy these people are comfortably talking about cast, gender, Rich, poor. Indian Cinema is changing.
Please take note of Tushar's recommendation and read "उन्हाच्या कटाविरुद्ध" 🙏🙏
Zindagi humari bhi bahut interesting hai- Nagraj Manjule ..Heart touching🔥😍
I can listen to Dibakar all day long. He always makes so much sense and can see his clarity of thought
Winners:
1. Nagraj Manjule
2. Vetrimaran
3. Nandita Das
Dibakar interrupted many times to make his point which neither of them did.
P.S : Big fan of Vetrimaran and Nagraj Manjule from Tamil Nadu
It's not a wrestling or debating completion dude..where one needs to.topple the other..this is a typical Indian mentality of choosing the winners and disparaging the losers..they r not sitting there to win points from you they r there they are paid and invited..take what u can or don't take what u can't from their discourse they give a flying fuck..as u r not their financer
Did anyone notice that Nagraj Manjule said "Osmanabad"; when he was narrating the stone-pelting incident (37:38) and the film companion subtitled that as "Husnabad" 🤣🤣🤣
good newz for all manjule fans that he is gonna direct
THE SIVAJI TRILOGY
Yes.
Chatrapati shivaji maharaj brother please
@@bhushansurya7821 Been seeing this for quite a while now so just a thought my friend. Remember we had that marathi saying in school textbooks - 'hota jeeva mhanun vachla shiva'. Did we get up and correct our teachers to change that to 'Chatrapati shivaji maharaj'? I don't remember anybody taking any offence in that sentence. And I think that's because he wasn't just a king we respected, but the king we truly loved. Many literatures call him a variety of names, shiva, shivraya, shivaji, shivba, shivaji Raja, raja shivchatrapti, chatrapati shivaji and countles others.. Calling him by his first name, shiva, sometimes feels even more personal and loving than Chatrapati shivaji maharaj or chatrapati shivaji raje bhonsale etc etc. These are notions propelled by political parties by asking people to address him a certain way. Wasnt the case before 2010 atleast when we had chatrapti shivaji terminus CST for many years and no one had a problem with that. If politicians really had respect, they would govern the way he used to, rather than just calling his name a certain way! Even when your read many many acclaimed and praised literatures on him written by legends like babasaheb purandare and ranjit desai, at one point they all address him by words like 'Jijau cha shivba' etc. And I feel that infact brings us closer to the king. There have been so many kings in history, but its only our beloved king shivaji whom we feel more personal too.
@@budguesor9222 well explained
The best political Movie in Tamil in recent times in my view is Pariyerum Perumal by Maari Selvaraj
Nagaraj Manjule is a big body of work in himself....Thanks a lot FC for bringing him in the mainstream....
This is so amazing to watch! Like Anubhav has watch Vetrimaaran's movies. Dibakar understands what everyone is saying. Nandita is making good points and contributing effectively. Nagraj Manjule is amazing! Explained the point of making caste system related movies so welll. Everyone has watched everyone s movies! It will be rare to see this with actors.
Nagraj anna and vetri stole the stage everywhere they go❤️
Dibakar is such a visionary that he now needs two sets of glasses.
I first thought it was a stetho.
He always carry them
😂😂😂✌️
Lmao
With those miracle glasses he can see inside your clothes.😲
Such uploads are pure gold dust. Thank you Film Companion.
While watching this, can't help but think of Kamal Haasan who had every mob threatening him in the past for different films. The Muslims (for Vishwaroopam), the Hindus (for Hey Ram), the casteist mobs from rural Tamil Nadu (films like Thevar Magan, Virumandi). And the biggest of them all, the political parties. Yet he had the conviction and acumen to boldly use his craft to expose different harsh realities that the society is plagued with. He will never shy away in doing this.
Importantly he financed himself. He has equally churned out mainstream films loaded with cheese to earn and feed the film star in him , who in turn finances the bold filmmaker in him. Somewhere in this video I was waiting for his reference because nobody else in this country would have faced bans, court cases, religious heat, hatred from political parties as much as he did.
Somewhere he became the seeds for change these filmmakers were talking about in this show.
Btw excellent discussion FC.
P.s. Also I was waiting for pariyerum perumal referred somewhere. A movie everyone should watch.
I am from West of India grown up watching Bollywood films but I think he is the most versatile actor ever to be born in India...nobody can match him not even in Bollywood.
He acts, he dance, he writes and also he directs as well as produce movies.
The only actor whom I consider close to him is "CHIYAAN VIKRAM" (Kennedy John Victor).
I agree to your point and also not agree to some of it.. the reason why there is no reference because the films these filmmakers made are good films not pathbreaking films like kamalhasan's.. secondly most of the questions directed towards the current situation n current political climate that is why there is no reference..
if kamalhasan had been an arthouse filmmaker like shyam benegal none of his films would have run into trouble.. as per his own confession kamalhasan hates the word art films.. he always wanted to be a mainstream filmmaker where he pushed the people's tastes.. good that he ran into these problems we got the true nature of the society n political background of our country.
You can watch this diary film too... * It's on pandemic life of India ...*
>> ua-cam.com/video/U9HiDhz4KTU/v-deo.html
I learned so many things from this interview.. nagraj sir wins hearts everytime..
This conversation is not completed without Pa.Ranjith
@@crazycockatiel2982 cry
For Those who Came here For Nagraaj Manjule ❤❤
Timeline
Question-13:07 Answer-13:37
Nagraaj sir share some experience here: 22:55
Question-36:26 Answer-36:41
Question-58:46 Answer-1:01:13
All are great here, but Nagraaj sir is Favorite.❤❤
Thank you so much
WOW. Nagraj Manjule
Omg genius vetrimaran🔥🔥🔥💥💥
Nagraj Manjule is too pure and profound at the same time.🙌
Please do an full interview with Nagraj sir....man mith simplicity but high intellectual
Here for Vetri maaran!!! Thank you FC for bringing every one together!!!!!
Pa.ranjith , vetrimaran , raam,selvaragavan
Vachi oru interview vainga
You can watch this diary film too... * It's on pandemic life of India ...*
>> ua-cam.com/video/U9HiDhz4KTU/v-deo.html
Listening to Nagraj and Dibakar shows the difference in knowledge gained from life experience and knowledge gained from living room conversations.
Exactly.. well said
I feel exactly the same
I am here for Mr.Nagraj Manjule, his simplicity destroyed everyone's thought process and made a new way to see the life.
Anyone here for Nagraj Manjule.. The man who made classics like Sairat and Fandry
Nagraj sir is simply great!!
He can explain an intellectual thing in just a simple way..and this is what makes him deferent!!!
I just love his work 😍
Yes & what he says he also portray in simple & artful way in his every films, that's where is his greatness
Vetrimaaran and nandita Das is damm genius...
Interesting thing is that they are accepting, that they are also playing elite and privilege politics, coming to the point of the representation of dalit, which need to be head subject to discussion.
Nandita is right about art that you can't categorize an art in single plate.
Except Asuran isn't. Infact none of Vetrimaran's movies are elitist.
@@imonceagainaskingforyourfi4432 really
@@imonceagainaskingforyourfi4432 agreed Asuran was a very apt portrayal if at all anybody doesnt know about the struggles the lower caste went through, thats one of the films I want them to watch..
Please have a separate discussion with sir Nagraj Manjule
You can watch this diary film too... * It's on pandemic life of India ...*
>> ua-cam.com/video/U9HiDhz4KTU/v-deo.html
Pa Ranjit should also have been here
Most-appropriately spoken:
1. Mr. Nagaraj (this guy's a 10/10 for the clarity in his thoughts.. and I don't even follow Hindi (relied on subs))
2. Ms. Nanditha
3. Mr. Vetri
4. Mr. Abhinav
5. Mr. Dibakar