After TWO WHOLE YEARS of being stuck on a reserve list (God, I HATE those lists!) and having my hopes built up of an eventual job offer, I finally received an email from the department in question this morning informing me that the reserve list has now "expired" and that I will NOT be offered a job. Needless to say, I am NOT best pleased at the moment! They should scrap these ridiculous reserve lists altogether, as they build up applicants' hopes too much.
Manager gives you a project (ON A FRIDAY) with a follow-up meeting on the immediate monday (lol) on ENGAGEMENT and COMMUNICATION and then they don't even bother turning up on the follow-up meeting or pick up the phone. Literal bonus points earned from them suddenly gaining interest when a senior grade does. You just described the national mentality on managerial grades in the Civil Service. It is genuinely embarrassing to hear someone fresh to it immediately be subject to it. Also on another note I enjoyed your video but it's just clickbait in the sense that this is just what it's like doing SDIP, not working in the Civil Service. As you mentioned multiple times, you didn't really do any work and trust me, the average civil servant doesn't get to visit all the major government departments in a week and you're lucky if you can shadow someone once a year.
Agreed on this, I worked for the civil service and I have to say nothing there is permanent, you have to keep on applying to different roles, most of them you get with experience, and if you are low skilled you STAY there unless you have contacts!
Hi Chelsie! Really helpful video. I’m applying to do law next year but don’t really know if the career is for me, I’m more interested in it academically. I am really interested in the Diplomatic Fast Stream (though I still obviously have a while lol). I wish I could apply for the SDIP but my dad’s self-employed which I find odd because that doesn’t mean I’m high income. But I’ll still try my hardest and hope that maybe they’ll change the criteria by the time I’d be applying haha
Hi! thank you. best of luck for the application process. law is a brilliant foundational degree for life so don't worry if you're like me and don't want to practice it. you've just gotta be prepared to study it for three years (and boy is it hard work!). if you're interested in government, you can always apply to work at your local council or get work experience with them. it could give you a better understanding of government as a whole!
That's what I like about the civil service. The competency based process means that you can be assured that other people around you are up to the job. Good luck in your future endeavours. I'm sure you'll do well 🙂
Hi, I'm thinking of a career switch but am in full time work so won't necessarily have the time to get a summer internship or work experience at the civil service.Do many people get into civil service w/o having done an internship or work experience there?Also, do you know if a masters degree is likely to be more valued?Thank you!
Hi! A very small percentage of civil servants did the summer internship. Most apply via the fast stream route. Not sure if masters degrees are more valued. Will be best to email the civil service directly via their website to ask!
thank you!! the applications normally open in september (around now) and close in about a months time. i applied in september for both the EDIP and SDIP!
Hey Chelsie, I've stumbled across your video because I'm interested in applying for the fast stream programme, do you have any other advice on where to find out what it's like to work in the civil service? Also, is it a problem if your degree subject isn't directly linked to the department you hope to work in, for example if you didn't study law but wanted to go into the ministry of justice?
hey! your degree subject doesn't matter unless you want to do a stream that requires a certain degree. best bet is to talk to people on linkedin, get work experience at local council or with an MP (next best thing other than E/SDIP to see what gov work is like) and do a lot of research!
thank you! not sure what it would be as didn't get an official role title, but it was a B3/C4 position so a project lead or something of that ilk. good luck, the MoJ was a fab place to work!
Lol listening to Chelsie reminds me of how a colleague of mine who was working in the MOJ had.. her experience was very similar, and yes there are REAL BITCHES there! people really just see over you, for me having worked on a lower skill level was enough, I would never work in the MOJ not worth my time.. thank God I had that experience before starting Uni.. I would definitely go into a Law firm thousand times than the MOJ, at least you get the experience you really want, unless your jobsworth and stuff like the MOJ interests you
Hi I am starting to work as a policy officer apprenticeship and after the 2 years you can apply for policy advisor role. Do you know anything about this?
@@kss1190 @KS S no worries so I am currently a policy officer I can email over some tips if helpful. One thing I would say is read the competencies they are assessing in the interview and mind map all your best examples for them and choose the most strong example and have it ready. Also be ready for follow up questions. Read the civil service profiles and competencies you can find online also. Also one thing all civil service interview they will ask you one question they don't mark you on something like ' what do you do in your spare time essentially they are assessing your behaviour and personality here even though they don't mark this. Hope this helps and good luck!! 🕊
Chelsie, do you know much about how the UK Civil Reserve list works? I ask this because I passed an interview for AO Caseworker in a Liverpool dept back in March 2019 and scored 18. Consequently, even though I have been put on a reserve list, I STILL have not been offered a job. Due to Covid, they told me that the list expiry date has been extended to the end of July 2020. However, I still have had no job offer. So would you factor in my score of 18 (don't know how high up that would make me on the list) as being the reason why they still haven't offered me a job?
In that case, they must have had a helluva lot of other candidates who scored much higher than I did! No wonder they never offered me a position. I hate those damn reserve lists!
After TWO WHOLE YEARS of being stuck on a reserve list (God, I HATE those lists!) and having my hopes built up of an eventual job offer, I finally received an email from the department in question this morning informing me that the reserve list has now "expired" and that I will NOT be offered a job. Needless to say, I am NOT best pleased at the moment! They should scrap these ridiculous reserve lists altogether, as they build up applicants' hopes too much.
Manager gives you a project (ON A FRIDAY) with a follow-up meeting on the immediate monday (lol) on ENGAGEMENT and COMMUNICATION and then they don't even bother turning up on the follow-up meeting or pick up the phone. Literal bonus points earned from them suddenly gaining interest when a senior grade does. You just described the national mentality on managerial grades in the Civil Service. It is genuinely embarrassing to hear someone fresh to it immediately be subject to it.
Also on another note I enjoyed your video but it's just clickbait in the sense that this is just what it's like doing SDIP, not working in the Civil Service. As you mentioned multiple times, you didn't really do any work and trust me, the average civil servant doesn't get to visit all the major government departments in a week and you're lucky if you can shadow someone once a year.
Agreed on this, I worked for the civil service and I have to say nothing there is permanent, you have to keep on applying to different roles, most of them you get with experience, and if you are low skilled you STAY there unless you have contacts!
Hi Chelsie, sounds like you are going to do really well in the senior civil service, best wishes!
Civil service . Is that the people that have a meeting to schedule when to have a meeting ?
Just received my laptop as I'll be working from home for the FCO Parliamentary relations department wish me luck
congrats!! smash it!
Hi I am starting next month, what is your laptop like and working from home with the Civil servants?
how did ur interview go. I found it hard
Got a job inteview for the MOJ soon ... can't wait to watch this!!!😁
good luck!
@@ChelsieAngeles Thank you !!😁
Hi Chelsie! Really helpful video. I’m applying to do law next year but don’t really know if the career is for me, I’m more interested in it academically. I am really interested in the Diplomatic Fast Stream (though I still obviously have a while lol).
I wish I could apply for the SDIP but my dad’s self-employed which I find odd because that doesn’t mean I’m high income. But I’ll still try my hardest and hope that maybe they’ll change the criteria by the time I’d be applying haha
Hi! thank you. best of luck for the application process. law is a brilliant foundational degree for life so don't worry if you're like me and don't want to practice it. you've just gotta be prepared to study it for three years (and boy is it hard work!). if you're interested in government, you can always apply to work at your local council or get work experience with them. it could give you a better understanding of government as a whole!
That's what I like about the civil service. The competency based process means that you can be assured that other people around you are up to the job.
Good luck in your future endeavours. I'm sure you'll do well 🙂
In indonesia , civil service have ranks, like military... in UK civil service have ranks or not ?
Hi, I'm thinking of a career switch but am in full time work so won't necessarily have the time to get a summer internship or work experience at the civil service.Do many people get into civil service w/o having done an internship or work experience there?Also, do you know if a masters degree is likely to be more valued?Thank you!
Hi! A very small percentage of civil servants did the summer internship. Most apply via the fast stream route. Not sure if masters degrees are more valued. Will be best to email the civil service directly via their website to ask!
Such an interesting video! When did you apply for the internship?
thank you!! the applications normally open in september (around now) and close in about a months time. i applied in september for both the EDIP and SDIP!
Hey Chelsie, I've stumbled across your video because I'm interested in applying for the fast stream programme, do you have any other advice on where to find out what it's like to work in the civil service? Also, is it a problem if your degree subject isn't directly linked to the department you hope to work in, for example if you didn't study law but wanted to go into the ministry of justice?
hey! your degree subject doesn't matter unless you want to do a stream that requires a certain degree. best bet is to talk to people on linkedin, get work experience at local council or with an MP (next best thing other than E/SDIP to see what gov work is like) and do a lot of research!
Great video, thank you for your insight! I have my telephone interview tomorrow, do you have any tips?
just seen this! hope it went well!
Really useful video . I start a new role in MOJ in a few months, just wondering if you had a ‘job role title’ as such during your intern ?
thank you! not sure what it would be as didn't get an official role title, but it was a B3/C4 position so a project lead or something of that ilk. good luck, the MoJ was a fab place to work!
Chelsie Angeles thank you! All the best with your next steps :)
Loved this video very insightful! I'm gonna be on the SDIP this summer as part of the HMT do you have any advice? Thank you :)
Lol listening to Chelsie reminds me of how a colleague of mine who was working in the MOJ had.. her experience was very similar, and yes there are REAL BITCHES there! people really just see over you, for me having worked on a lower skill level was enough, I would never work in the MOJ not worth my time.. thank God I had that experience before starting Uni.. I would definitely go into a Law firm thousand times than the MOJ, at least you get the experience you really want, unless your jobsworth and stuff like the MOJ interests you
Hi I am starting to work as a policy officer apprenticeship and after the 2 years you can apply for policy advisor role. Do you know anything about this?
Hi! I’ve got a video out on Saturday where I talk to a current civil servant who talks about this!
@@ChelsieAngeles thank you soo much I will keep an eye out😇
I have an interview for a Policy officer role in a few weeks, do you have any useful tips?
@@kss1190 @KS S no worries so I am currently a policy officer I can email over some tips if helpful. One thing I would say is read the competencies they are assessing in the interview and mind map all your best examples for them and choose the most strong example and have it ready. Also be ready for follow up questions. Read the civil service profiles and competencies you can find online also. Also one thing all civil service interview they will ask you one question they don't mark you on something like ' what do you do in your spare time essentially they are assessing your behaviour and personality here even though they don't mark this. Hope this helps and good luck!! 🕊
What type of degree were you doing at the time?
LLB law
Chelsie, do you know much about how the UK Civil Reserve list works? I ask this because I passed an interview for AO Caseworker in a Liverpool dept back in March 2019 and scored 18. Consequently, even though I have been put on a reserve list, I STILL have not been offered a job. Due to Covid, they told me that the list expiry date has been extended to the end of July 2020. However, I still have had no job offer. So would you factor in my score of 18 (don't know how high up that would make me on the list) as being the reason why they still haven't offered me a job?
Minimum is 16, max 28, I think.
In that case, they must have had a helluva lot of other candidates who scored much higher than I did! No wonder they never offered me a position. I hate those damn reserve lists!
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A thousand words a minute, vague, and lots of I , I , I .
Should go far in Civil Service management. 🙄
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