Vegeta Changed Super Saiyan 3 FOREVER...

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  • @christopherochoa4145
    @christopherochoa4145 29 днів тому +29

    People just make shit up when it comes to reading into shit and making up lore that Toriyama did not care enough to put that much thought into.

  • @doltannagy5521
    @doltannagy5521 29 днів тому +30

    Bruh idk why you're calling it false ssj3, when it has been confirmed that it is vegeta's ssj3 form, and canon at that, also it was akira toriyama who made vegeta that way as a throwback to the original design of ssj3! If you knew anything about dragon ball, you would've known that, for fuck sake yall make me wanna come out the wood works and actually bring facts with me, so everyone is facted out in db lore, history, and what's truly canon and what's not

    • @demetriusbrice3887
      @demetriusbrice3887 29 днів тому

      Well, the throwback design was way much more better than what we got in Dima and that’s if you’re talking about the long hair version with the tail not that ssj 2.O, Dima ssj3 Vegeta looks like the code name kids next-door parody came to life some goofy looking shit for real

    • @romart03
      @romart03 28 днів тому

      @@demetriusbrice3887 cope

  • @derickferris3650
    @derickferris3650 29 днів тому +14

    King Kai in the movie told Vegeta that Beerus beat Goku in his Super Saiyan 3. So I’m sure Vegeta already figured it was useless even if he had the form

    • @minutemaid8969
      @minutemaid8969 29 днів тому +3

      bro this maybe a huge point that a lot of people is missing this indeed did happen

    • @derickferris3650
      @derickferris3650 29 днів тому +4

      @@minutemaid8969 bro it just goes to show that all of people don’t watch the show or the movies.

    • @neonnemesis3267
      @neonnemesis3267 25 днів тому

      Still makes no sense. By that logic why did he even bothered using SSJ2 as well?
      SSJ3 is stronger than 2, Goku lost to Beerus due to lack of power, not due to stamina issues. There are zero reasons for Vegeta not to use SSJ3 if he had it at the time. By that logic he might as well fight in base form.
      The reason is simple. When writing it and the rest of Super, Toriyama had Vegeta as he was at the end of Buu saga, meaning his top was SSJ2 and progressed from there to the God forms.
      When making Daima he wanted to throw a twist with a new form but since Daima is set after Buu the only option was SSJ3 which he did, but as always Toriyama forgot™ what he wrote before just like how he forgot his own rules in RoF and we are left with another plot hole.
      But as always, the DB fanbase is trying to explain it like it was some sort of smart story telling when it is another moment that was done without thinking on what was already done before leaving us with another plot hole.

    • @minutemaid8969
      @minutemaid8969 25 днів тому

      @@neonnemesis3267 You overthinking bro you right it wasn’t a stamina issue why goku lost the fight cause it only lasted 30 seconds type shii…we all know how vegeta thinks he’s battle smart probably thought if i even wanna have a chance against a opp like beerus i don’t what any drawbacks so he went full power ssj2 instead of 3

    • @neonnemesis3267
      @neonnemesis3267 6 днів тому

      ​@@minutemaid8969 You are making no sense. The drawbacks mean nothing if he doesn't have the power to compete.
      Just look at Buu saga, Goku skipped straight to SSJ3 to stand a chance against Kid Buu. Vegeta as a SSJ2 didn't even lasted a minute and was destroyed effortlessly in seconds, while Goku had a prolonged fight where he could match Buu until the stamina issues kicked in.
      Even if SSJ3 had the stamina issues, it put a fight against Kid Buu. SSJ2 was obliterated like it was nothing. Goku instantly saw that SSJ2 was completely useless and ignored it completely.
      There's absolutely nothing smart about not using your currently strongest transformation when the issue is power and the drawbacks will never be a factor because the fight will never last that long, even more when the used form was destroyed the last time that kind of situation happened.
      The reason for that is simple, when Toriyama wrote BoG and even the whole Super, SSJ2 was the limit of Vegeta and he never got SSJ3 which is why Goku showcases it a few times but Vegeta doesn't.

  • @KPophome-j9u
    @KPophome-j9u 29 днів тому +11

    i guess im the only one who like vegeta super saiyan 3 look

    • @swisswinds3685
      @swisswinds3685 29 днів тому +1

      @@KPophome-j9u his form looks fire man, honestly I prefer it over the older look just for the new animation

    • @KPophome-j9u
      @KPophome-j9u 29 днів тому +4

      @swisswinds3685 me too i love this look for him its unique to him also i dont know why people complain trunks and gohan super saiyan hair doesn't look similar to goku so why is it bad when vegeta super saiyan3 looks different

    • @swisswinds3685
      @swisswinds3685 29 днів тому +1

      @@KPophome-j9u yeah fans be forgetting they half-Saiyans and I kinda believe that certain Saiyan bloodlines offer different traits like Broly and Vegeta for instance

    • @KPophome-j9u
      @KPophome-j9u 29 днів тому +3

      @@swisswinds3685 exactly obviously the hair is gonna look different also we have not seen lots of super saiyan3 characters aside from gotenks and goku and now vegeta

    • @-TheMaskedMan-
      @-TheMaskedMan- 28 днів тому

      He should’ve got te the Baby hair that he had when baby took his body. Or his hair should have been spread out more to the sides rather then up like Gohan’s beast form trash. Looks like he has a giant bucket on his head

  • @Ringolero
    @Ringolero 29 днів тому +7

    Yeah, you went nuts with this. I’m just glad to have a new Dragon Ball series that I can watch with my 6 year old nephews, you’re out here giving scientific analysis and shit.

  • @marvelprince
    @marvelprince 29 днів тому +6

    You said Gotenks is plausible as a SSJ3 cause he’s watched Goku do it, so why doesn’t that same logic apply to Vegeta who’s not only seen it done multiple times but shared a body with Goku. A year is a long time for him to especially since he knows what the form is and what it requires and the strain it puts on your body.
    And I think it makes sense Vegeta doesn’t use the form typically if he doesn’t like the drawbacks. It’s said to be a huge energy drain so maybe Vegeta just prefers to go the distance and doesn’t want to sacrifice power for stamina but that’s changed now that he’s a kid.

  • @newhybrid101
    @newhybrid101 29 днів тому +5

    Vegeta tends to be like that with hairstyle changes through transformations.
    Gotenks is a bit like both,he doesnt have a bang like Vegeta but the rest is like Goku.

  • @swisswinds3685
    @swisswinds3685 29 днів тому +11

    mad cope in this video, Vegeta mastered Super saiyan god all on his own, not sure why its "L" , he has always had higher potential than Kakarot, it should be no surprise. just be happy Akira did yall a solid

    • @terralecoutain3056
      @terralecoutain3056 29 днів тому +1

      Facts

    • @MajinBird
      @MajinBird  24 дні тому

      I have a feeling you didn’t watch the entire video

    • @swisswinds3685
      @swisswinds3685 24 дні тому +2

      @@MajinBirdnah ur whole video is still coping, its not that complicated, Vegeta has already proven he can get a saiyan form before Goku, being Blue Evolution. Each of these saiyans get their own genetic traits, Broly using his ozaru without ape form, Goku naturally leaning on angel forms, vice versa Vegeta, Gohan's hella potential from his genes being mixed with human, its simple math, Vegeta has always had his royal genes to obtain these forms in less time than Goku, albeit he was training harder not smarter

  • @Wagonball_Z
    @Wagonball_Z 29 днів тому +4

    If Vegeta can learn ssj god then surely he always knew how to go ssj3

  • @zenkairanger
    @zenkairanger 29 днів тому +3

    The way I see it, this is the first time Vegeta is using Super Saiyan 3 against an actual opponent. From what Bulma said, all he’s done is train. Vegeta is always miserable, but he looked particularly miserable during this fight. I think there’s a possibility he just realized it’s not suited for battle.
    As for how Vegeta got the form so soon after Buu’s defeat, ya gotta think about it, it’s a common trope in this series that once a character experiences a certain level of power, characters adapt and grow more quickly. Not just the Saiyans, the many non Saiyan characters have this perk. So Vegeta getting this form 6-18 months after the Buu Saga, it makes sense. He’s felt it. It’s how Gotenks got it, it’s how Caulifla will eventually get it. All that being said, Goku should know by now that it’s a flawed form, the only reason he used it against Beerus was the writers showing the fans Goku at his peak can’t touch him. I hate that. I think Goku shouldn’t have used it against Beerus, but the writers. 😏

  • @tessaN64
    @tessaN64 28 днів тому +1

    my current head canon is that when vegeta died and was briefly in other world, he felt the change in his body and had a revelation on how to obtain SSJ3, and then a year later of training and focusing on attaining the form, he got it.

  • @2musicSoundtrackfandom579
    @2musicSoundtrackfandom579 29 днів тому +2

    I never really believed Saiyan 3 was useless. Yes, it might have had its cons, but it also had its pros that made it worth it. You just need to be trained in it right and for a long period of time to nummfy the drawbacks alot better more so that the transformation can be more stable and useful.
    But apparently they didn't have enough time to do that

  • @yusei151
    @yusei151 29 днів тому +14

    … ssj3 is and has always been irrelevant outside of one movie. These fan videos using head canon as to why ssj3 needs to be protected from one character doing it that has shown that he could get a god form without a ritual (a form that clearly exceeds super saiyan 3 in every possible way). My guy is a prodigy, stop acting like Vegeta hasn’t been about that life. And then let’s be clear that he literally is the only character to canonically make Ssj3 get a win. He did it before Goku or Gotenks. Just be proud SSJ3 got its first real W.

  • @ConanSmoke
    @ConanSmoke 29 днів тому +2

    I have this head canon belief that half saiyans can only achieve SSJ3 from fusion with another half saiyan. I also like the idea that certain saiyans don’t have to the potential to reach the latter forms.

    • @Supremax67
      @Supremax67 29 днів тому +3

      Actually, that would make a lot of sense. But I prefer the theory that with fusion comes new abilities. Prime examples of Gogeta and Vegito using abilities that neither Goku or Vegeta possesses. It's like 1 scientist can't build a prototype of a specific invention, but 2 scientists can.

    • @ConanSmoke
      @ConanSmoke 29 днів тому +1

      @ i also think SSJ1 initially needs to have the saiyans tail cut off at the time.They also might receive greater zenkai boosts when having no tail.

  • @petergrudge189
    @petergrudge189 29 днів тому +3

    Bro, Baby was still in a SSJ2 form not SSJ3. That long curved hair and loss of Vegeta's eye brows was because of Baby's biological mutation advancing inside Vegeta's body. It was just a coincidence he looked like a SSJ3. Look at Baby's original form and compare it with Baby Vegeta. The eye bows were replaced with that red banding.

  • @jaidonthomas2277
    @jaidonthomas2277 10 днів тому

    You could make the argument that when Vegeta went Majin it altered his body enough to fit the theory’s narrative for the SSJ3 transformation

  • @jaidonthomas2277
    @jaidonthomas2277 10 днів тому

    You could make the argument that when Vegeta went Majin it altered his body enough to fit the narrative for the SSJ3 transformation

  • @metanox1716
    @metanox1716 26 днів тому

    Ssj3 is a specific transformation that requires a specific type of concentration to tap into no emotions required, ssj 1 and 2 on the other hand have rage boost traits,meaning theoretically you could even surpass ssj3 with ssj 2 if you're angry enough, however after tapping into ssj3 you may still use rage to increase the forms power but no rage is required to become ssj 3.....vegeta against beerus maxed out at ssj 2 because his concentration had missed the ssj3 window during his rage

    • @metanox1716
      @metanox1716 26 днів тому

      Lol he just doesn't like the form. It would make sense

  • @atmbigmoonshit4533
    @atmbigmoonshit4533 27 днів тому

    Vegeta had an underwater transformation he haven't used it in a long time he mixed it up with super Saiyan now

  • @Rar-u2f
    @Rar-u2f 26 днів тому

    If it was a false ssj3 Goku would've asked "what's that?!" instead of "he can do that technique?"
    Dbz fans headcanon so much

  • @CharlesCorso-hw7ze
    @CharlesCorso-hw7ze 26 днів тому

    It's ssj 3, based on the OG concept. If you really want to stretch it, maybe its a 75% ssj3 form where vegeta stopped the full transition to increase his power while negating the heavy stamina drain. However, he ended his fight with Tamagami no.2 quick, that tells me it is true ssj 3 with the stamina drain. Vegeta did what goku should have done to kid buu.

  • @ManuVentu
    @ManuVentu 29 днів тому

    It's not false, it's OFFICIAL SUPER SAYIAN 3 ✓

  • @boomboombaby9140
    @boomboombaby9140 14 днів тому

    Watch when Goku use it it will be on another level and probably have Ui principles in it .

  • @Blitzkrieg_Rhino
    @Blitzkrieg_Rhino 29 днів тому

    Since the beginning of the wish in Daima they all state and showed the difficulties of being in child sized bodies and their struggles getting used to it so naturally you’d assume God ki based forms are out of the question since I’m certain their current bodies couldn’t handle divine energy so I assume Vegeta ssj3 shows a potential pinnacle in “children” saiyans and shows his superior potential over Goku

  • @THELIGHTKNIGHT_2025
    @THELIGHTKNIGHT_2025 29 днів тому +1

    Super Saiyan 3 Vegeta is cool but it brings up too many questions

  • @KPophome-j9u
    @KPophome-j9u 29 днів тому

    honestly you might be right about baby he might have been a super saiyan 3

  • @chillnhawaii_8086
    @chillnhawaii_8086 29 днів тому

    it was stated that, because of how goku lived he got to keep his body, unlike vegeta, when vegeta died, all the good he did cannot erase all the bad he had done before bulma, which is why he couldn't keep it

  • @JVAZ5936
    @JVAZ5936 28 днів тому

    Vegeta actually had elder kai release his potential just to mess with goku

  • @calvinospina7307
    @calvinospina7307 28 днів тому

    Well you said this "theory" was thrown out the window in dragon Ball Diama, key word, "theory", not canon confirmation.

  • @zmetalsanctum
    @zmetalsanctum 19 днів тому +1

    People seem to forget vegeta would be weak if it wasnt for goku, the actual prodigy inspiring him to train as hard as he does. Higher potential than goku, but goku has more talent obtaining forms faster, and a smarter fighter in conserving ki. No super saiyan 1 goku, no super vegeta at all. Catalyst. No higher power would train vegeta as his old self. He needed to be humbled by goku for any of it

  • @EmpireArcadia
    @EmpireArcadia 29 днів тому

    I answered the questions you asked in this video. I want to speak with you privately about them. How can I reach you?

  • @andrewcaughman1416
    @andrewcaughman1416 29 днів тому

    The only thing I want to say is due to it being different in looks, i wanna call it royal 3, or royal ssj3, that's all nothing more or less

  • @KyKy_Kyri
    @KyKy_Kyri 29 днів тому

    Your point at the 8:45 mark is incorrect Goku thought she was useless he used it against buress because it was his strongest form and the only 2 other times like u stated were teaching moments for trunks and kalifla in the TOP. That point is mute that u made. Goku too saw it being useless after ssgss and UI/MUI

  • @Geo-Prompt
    @Geo-Prompt 29 днів тому

    Bro. Figuring out how Z-fighters are getting their powers in DB is out the window. I stopped trying to figure out how since Frieza trained for 4 months and caught up to Goku and Vegeta. And not to mention Beast Gohan 🤣. This is comical, I don’t even watch it anymore.

  • @Fireandknives
    @Fireandknives 29 днів тому

    I think Vegeta used it because they were in another dimension, like when Goku went ssj3 bs Janemba

  • @jimstylin
    @jimstylin 29 днів тому

    How about watching the series to it's to see if the SS3 issue is addressed.

  • @JayGatz-sd9qj
    @JayGatz-sd9qj 29 днів тому +1

    He looks like Numba Fourku

  • @kelseycody8158
    @kelseycody8158 28 днів тому

    Daima takes place some time before DBSuper..

  • @Lamellbranch00
    @Lamellbranch00 20 днів тому

    goku's Concept form that was never used so they gave it to vegeta second best😂😂😂😂😂

    • @LightingOfTheRedHawk
      @LightingOfTheRedHawk 19 днів тому

      I'm glad he got the different Ssj3 look, i really hate how goku's Ssj3 looks

  • @dwightnorton3398
    @dwightnorton3398 29 днів тому +1

    correct

  • @Ldragoofficial98
    @Ldragoofficial98 28 днів тому +1

    Vegeta the hedgehog

  • @SwadeMusic911
    @SwadeMusic911 29 днів тому

    Because the owners of dragon ball are at odds w the actual writers and creators and daima is from the owners. I gave the show a chance and I honestly hate it.

  • @israelplaysthis
    @israelplaysthis 29 днів тому +1

    Umm no that last transformation baby vegeta took before great ape was not super saiyan 3 it was super baby vegeta 2 (super Saiyan 2). All the forms baby vegeta takes are (baby vegeta, super saiyan baby vegeta, super baby vegeta, and super baby vegeta 2).

    • @marqueskates5873
      @marqueskates5873 29 днів тому +2

      No it says in the guide book super baby 2 was ssj3

  • @alliotdragon6666
    @alliotdragon6666 28 днів тому

    Yeah, I’m probably gonna call this fake super Saiyan three probably super Saiyan 2.5

    • @LightingOfTheRedHawk
      @LightingOfTheRedHawk 19 днів тому

      Delusion 😂

    • @alliotdragon6666
      @alliotdragon6666 19 днів тому

      @@LightingOfTheRedHawk Vegeta’s super Saiyan three transformation is not stronger than Goku’s. Anyone who thinks Vegeta is stronger than Goku are dumbasses.

  • @AkeemReese
    @AkeemReese 28 днів тому

    First everyone and their mama complains about beast gohan and how his new form was an ass pull, that he got it out nowhere. Now you’re dissatisfied about SSJ3 Vegeta because you think it’s lazy writing and the way he earned that form from actually training his ass off is inaccurate. To the way Goku and gotanks Got super Saiyan 3. But I would argue that Gohan beast is even a bigger ass pull because he hardly trains at all. But it’s OK since he’s a hybrid between a human and a saiyan it’s justified right 🤨. I swear to God there’s no pleasing you, Dragon Ball enthusiast dude just don’t think about it too much. And enjoy the show while it lasts.

  • @absupinhere
    @absupinhere 29 днів тому +2

    I completely agree. Your criticism is entirely sound. This is baseless fan service at best. But still, it is admittedly quite interesting.

  • @kassie500
    @kassie500 29 днів тому

    The only one i think mastered ssj3 is z broly in heroes.

  • @sonjunior4360
    @sonjunior4360 29 днів тому

    The end of the video is straight haterade.

  • @lemelancholic1755
    @lemelancholic1755 28 днів тому

    I believe it’s not super sayian 3 'but super sayain 2.5 .

    • @LightingOfTheRedHawk
      @LightingOfTheRedHawk 19 днів тому

      Its Ssj3, this is the original Ssj3 concept before they change it

  • @raph8065
    @raph8065 29 днів тому

    These ppl just change whatever they want.

  • @kassie500
    @kassie500 29 днів тому

    The only one that i think master

  • @Supremax67
    @Supremax67 29 днів тому +2

    This video is making too many assumptions. It wasn't officially declared within Daima that it was a continuity of Super. Multiverse is a thing in Dragon Ball.

    • @swisswinds3685
      @swisswinds3685 29 днів тому

      then they must of placed Gowasu in Daima for no reason smh

    • @Supremax67
      @Supremax67 29 днів тому

      @swisswinds3685 Alternative universes is not science fiction, just most people don't accept it being applied to fan logic. Heh.

    • @swisswinds3685
      @swisswinds3685 29 днів тому +2

      @@Supremax67 are you slow? thats not even remotely what I said, let alone not countering my point

    • @Supremax67
      @Supremax67 29 днів тому

      @@swisswinds3685 The internet is funny like that, people call other slow when they think they know better. If you didn't understand my train of thoughts, calling me slow doesn't justify it.
      I guess that's how trolls are born.

    • @swisswinds3685
      @swisswinds3685 29 днів тому +4

      @@Supremax67 you really are slow.., my comment was about Gowasu being in Daima since you said it wasnt a continuity of Super and your response was a brainfart about the multiverse lmao

  • @marquismccray5674
    @marquismccray5674 20 днів тому

    Please do some research before you make a video about dragon ball again. Every question you had, there’s a simple answer for them.

  • @kingwavy6338
    @kingwavy6338 29 днів тому

    People are make up anything lol vegeta hair different because vegeta has different hair why would it look like goku even gt fans wasn’t this dumb when ssj4 vegeta hair is different are y’all really that dumb

  • @rashidmohammad8653
    @rashidmohammad8653 25 днів тому

    Its funny that after 7 years he couldnt transform in to ssj3 but hes a kid now and it does ssj3 like he could do it anytime 😂😂😂😂😂bro daima is getting super vies 😂😂😂😂im so done with db these days in watched dragonball (kid goku) and loved that kid goku more then any other version of goku i mean even gt we had the same vibe goku compared to super and now even daima

  • @pnahar0847
    @pnahar0847 28 днів тому

    everything u said would make sense if it was true and not headcanon

  • @amirulhafiz549
    @amirulhafiz549 29 днів тому

    Everyone have their own opinion..still to me its ss3 and better version

  • @Jesse-r1k3c
    @Jesse-r1k3c 29 днів тому

    Super Saiyan 2.5

  • @keylessdragonball1574
    @keylessdragonball1574 22 дні тому

    I mean they yave hom ssj3 in heroes and fan mangas like multiverse and it looked way better bin those. From a looks standpoint dima ssj3 vegeta is and down grade.

  • @Lamellbranch00
    @Lamellbranch00 20 днів тому

    Vegeta's form to me is not canon

    • @LightingOfTheRedHawk
      @LightingOfTheRedHawk 19 днів тому

      Akira made this, so it's obviously canon lol, you probably don't like Vegeta so you don't want to believe that he is capable of using ssj3

  • @StarWarsShortss
    @StarWarsShortss 29 днів тому +4

    SSJ3 Goku DESTROYS SSJ3 Vegeta and its not close...

    • @True_EditZ1
      @True_EditZ1 29 днів тому

      True.

    • @yusei151
      @yusei151 29 днів тому +5

      There are so many videos disproving this… but hey do you.

    • @newhybrid101
      @newhybrid101 29 днів тому

      Daima Goku(if he goes SSJ3)>=Daima Vegeta>Buu Saga Goku

    • @JayGatz-sd9qj
      @JayGatz-sd9qj 29 днів тому +3

      At least Vegeta can win a fight with it

    • @pimpchi774
      @pimpchi774 29 днів тому +3

      There's no proof to that statement that you're making

  • @RickMorty-s1o
    @RickMorty-s1o 29 днів тому

    “Changes everything” or shut it down