Reminds me of that DBZA line. Frieza: So for the 1st Century I'll go easy on them, lure them into a false sense of security. And then when they think I'm not so bad, BAM! I'll go full tyrant on them in the 2nd Century. After that I'll disappear for a millennium and make them wonder if I ever existed to begin with. Just to come back and kill them all.
Not only that, she ultimately fulfilled her last wish and heads the largest human magic organization on the continent, having taken many apprentices over the years.
Serie is such a tsundere in a way. Refusing to admit how much she loved Flamme. Goes on a monologue about every detail of her life what she loved and how she achived her dreams. The message behind it i think is that she hates how short lived humans are and hated how Flamme was not going to live to see the results of her work.
Totally agree and then she tries to cover it up with her disdain for humans evolving faster than other long lived race because they accomplish more in shorter time
@@AthallaNaufal-yo2xtNo, she's literally just Frieren before Himmel's funeral. She didn't cry because emotions suddenly got created like the Big Bang in her. She always felt these things, yet remained completely disconnected and unknowing of what it meant. She's just never made the realization. The fact she goes out of her way to point out that "she doesn't know why she remembers so clearly" couldn't be way more obvious.
She didn't want to admit it. She's much older than Frieren, so she probably got used to pushing humans away because of their short lifespan. In her eyes it might not even be worth it to get emotionally attached if they're just going to die in what seems like no time. Those flashbacks tell me that Flamme managed to worm her way into her feelings regardless.
I honestly believe that the author expected everyone to jump straight to this and included the, "so, we should expect the clone to have the same behavior as Frieren" to make everyone think that's where it was going. Myself, my kid, and nearly every reactor I've watched thus far all thought that.
But that delay is very short, she will immediately put up a defensive shield after you expose your mana for her to detect. Very few mages can take advantage of that weakness of hers.
I'd say it's more your radar temporarily switching off before you bring up a barrier, my eyes are still open i just lose my spacial awareness for a brief moment. But just cause there's a weakness there doesn't mean you'll be quick enough to exploit it, that like having a boss with an exposed core but you have a second to attack before it closes and attack/kills you. It's all down to timing.
I love how at the start of their battle, Frieren and clone are exchanging their readings on each other by erecting barriers in different positions preemptively, like "Whop- Gotcha- Whop- Not there!"
It's crazy that Flamme was raised by the most knowledgable elf mage in the world, then trained the one who would become the most skilled. All while laying the foundation for magical research. I love magical lady Plato.
@@coniwiiuwu5578 it could be , in manga u could see that the biggest ability that frieren has is to analyze all kind of magic she see and see could find a way to counter or even to use that spell
@@coniwiiuwu5578 I think there's a decent case for it. She's the strongest in terms of raw magic that we've seen, although I wouldn't be surprised if Serie or a couple demons outmatched her there. She has a broad range of combat experience from her time with Himmel, and her expertise is hyper-niche spells like that stupidly powerful barrier and the bird capture magic. She can demonstrably be beaten and she's not a genius like Qual who revolutionizes the field, but I think her combination of raw power, experience, and esoteric techniques is one that few could match.
@@Narifamen I know Serie would wash Frieren but I do kinda want to see a fight between those two. Would be interesting to see what they use against each other.
For me it wasn't subtle at all... it was clear as day that Serie truly cared, loved and appreciated Flamme... She wanted to reminisce about her while walking and talking with Frieren about her, she was visualizing all the way till the reached the edge, she knew and remembered her favorite spell, he dreams and her aspirations. When you dont give a ish about someone you don't retain so specific and detailed memories of the things they represented or the things they loved. We more or less had kind of the same reaction from Frieren towards her time with both Flamme and Himmel. Probably not knowing how to deal with communicating their feelings or something.
Yeah basically serie just like frieren before himmel death (before every memories they make together came to hit her in the head). For me in serie case she is like old enough to feel numb about that anymore or just she doesnt have that realize moments (what i mean there is a time like you doesnt feel anything or have a time to sad when you lose someone, and its take sometimes to realize that they're really gone). I don't know what thats called but i hope its clear what i mean.
@@muhammadfadel3183 she is exactly like frieren. she pretended its something natural, she kept saying how humans die before you even know it, and finally she went and continued the dream of Flamme anyways. Just like Frieren keeps doing what Himmel would do. Man i love this show.
@kevinganchero2104 To be fair it was shown at some point even as an old man (before the second meteor shower) he could take on monsters so I don't blame them tbh.
@KaiserReinhard yosano definitely has one of the best backstories in the show but it didn't magically make her an interesting/good character. i personally love her, but she doesn't apply to the discussion of outstanding female characters because she's not one. i'm not familiar with most characters on your list but i'm a big fan of bsd and dislike horimiya so at least i can confidently say both yosano and hori aren't well-written. with yosano it's definitely the writer's decision to start developing her character so late into the story that her amazing backstory didn't add much. she's a stagnant character and other characters in bsd suffer from that as well
Those alternating scenes between the real and fake Frieren are some of the rawest scenes in any anime in the recent years. Especially the one where they just walk towards each other surrounded by black flames. I'm so glad I decided to watch this anime.
I love how serie raised flamme. It makes Serie more empathic, even for a elf. 3 Episodes left guys, lets hope that comes more :D The random guy reading this comment: you have a nice anime taste^^
I'm pretty sure that Frieren's clone used Zoltraak when it was just the other mages who entered the room in the previous episode, but now it's using much more "advanced" magics when facing off against Frieren. Like that first lightening spell would have wiped half of the other mages right off the bat if they had participated in this fight. I mean it instantly AOEd the entire room. Then that fire spell literally vaporized that huge stone block. Even the "Zoltraak" the clone used the previous episode was almost an instant party wipe. So like Frieren said, Zoltraak is enough to defeat the mages of this era.
It's interesting how in spite of her dialogue she cared for flamme, the faint expression in her face show the opposite of what she says a few times throughout the chapter
It's hard to notice because Seerie talks in a lower register, but she's also female. Flamme was essentially an adopted daughter to Seerie... and Frieren was an adopted daughter to Flamme... and Fern was and adopted daughter to Frieren. Their stories parallel each other pretty well, and Flamme really understood both her "mother" and her "daughter".
@@garyjay7259 When Serie shreds Flamme's will Roshi says "Damn, he said 'but I dont give a damn about this will'". I've seen the misunderstanding in a few other places too, because Serie in the show is never referred to with female pronouns, only by name. I wasn't necessarily trying to call anyone out, just noting that Serie is a woman for those who were uncertain or thought it was ambiguous.
Honestly I was pleasantly surprised by her low timbre. She has a damn nice voice. For some reason I was expecting a high pitched one when I saw her in the op. I was probably reminded of Aura. But this is wayyyy cooler
Serie keeps sayin "Flamme is just a stundent I taught on a whim" again and again I think this is just her way of coping with the loss of the actual best human pupil there could ever be, like, she's just trying to convince herself at this point
I like how there's a lot of combat logic that you can tie to other games. In Terraria, usually the bosses will aim after one person whilst shooting long range projectiles towards them, which is somewhat predictable for the one being targeted, but not so predictable and easy to dodge if you're a bystander. Less is definitely more in this situation where their lives are actually on the line. And right off the bat, Frieren casted a long-ranged AOE lightning spell, really hammering the point in.
The plan was a sum of all they could exploit to catch Frieren. It was her mana detection stopping, the fact that zoltraak is new to her so her response is slow and the fact even detecting mana she has trouble sensing Fern. It was a pretty good plan not depending on just 1 thing 👌
It's hilarious how that tiny stint of Frieren fighting herself just highlighted how above everyone else she was. Ain't nobody finishing the dungeon, even if they were all fighting together, if Frieren wasn't there to match herself.
Well, if Frieren wasn’t there, the strongest mage would only be Sense. Spoilers: Which would be incredibly easy to defeat because Ubel’s cleave cuts through anything she thinks she can cut.
@@andrewli6606 good luck spamming cleave to all these multiple attacks at the same time. also good luck getting in range to actually use it on that replica.
If frieren wasn't there, most people would've cleared the dungeon. Her presence messed up the balance of the whole exam. Even in the first phase, strong mages like denken had to struggle while weak mages like kanne and lawine easily passed because of frieren
The way this episode is directed is fucking masterful. I have never been so fully engaged in a battle, so captivated by the characters and their chemistry and relationships, and so immersed in the world building and lore in an anime more so than Frieren. Edit: 9:55 glad to see y’all are enjoying that anime.
I don't watch slice of life anime but frieren has become one of my top 5 anime and probably always will be. We don't need boom bam animation every single episode (although we have that here too). I'm just happy to watch these characters come to life. Frieren said flamme always seemed like she was in rush. Serie said that we all have points in our life where we have to make a crucial decision but elves they live so long they can push it as much as they want. Humans live so close to death (a mere century for most less) they can't afford to wait. How many beautiful moments can one show have?
Also when the battle of frieren vs clone frieren started, both were preemptively casting defensive magic which is a great touch of detail to how great of a mage she is.
Lol, thinking Serie had no empathy only to find out Serie's tsundere and raised Flamme with love since Flamme was a little girl. Note that Serie's basically fufilling Flamme's will right now as head of the magic continent association.
I think yall are forgetting that the monster is the one controlling the replicas, not the examiners. The replicas replicate all of the mages' mana, abilities, and mannerisms, but the monster controlling them is giving the directions. The replicas arent gonna be pacifists and go easy because this is a test, cuz they dont care. Sense only said that she was a pacifist in the sense that she gave all the examinees bottles to get them out safely if they choose to use them. So when the monster in the dungeon's goal is to kill any people coming towards it and stay alive, the replicas are gonna have that goal, and while they might go about it in their own way based on the personality of the person they are mimicking, the goal is to kill
Frieren got to see her her own total defeat at the hands of a mage who can surpass her, who she taught no less, and gets to live to tell the tale. No wonder she's smiling.
The way I saw Fern showing everyone Frieren's weakness is that: 1. Even if they know her weakness, Frieren would still win. 2. Frieren probably only has to deal with these people for the duration of the exam (which is like 5 minutes to her). 3. Why would she worry about a small group of strangers knowing her weakness if they're going be dead in less than a mere 100 years (likely a lot less than that for most of them).
Loved the conversation at the end. When you started talking about Side Step being an OP anime move, I suddenly thought: "Is Zoltraak just a super advanced version of Pocket Sand?"
A sad fact is that no matter how much they cherish the memories, they probably won't be able to visit Flamme's grave anymore 😢 unless Serie preserved it, but i doubt since it didn't look like she asked where it was
Let's go, 0 frame fullscreen beam assist Fern. I think my two favorite choreo bits from this were the Frierens sizing each other up with their shields moving back and forth, and then later the clone doing a down-heavy with the lightning spell to cut the hellfire spell.
@6:30 yea.....it would still only be Frieren and Fern that walked out.....the rest can't hold a candle to Frieren when she is unchained by a conscience....
The second ending is literally foreshadowing the future, everything is repeating itself, fern will eventually die, but frieren will remain, thats why, you see frieren lying down at the grave, but at the end of the ending, she is in fern lap... same spot were the grave was
The cool thing is, even 1000 years ago Frieren wasn't like Serie. She rejected Serie's offer of a spell because it just wasn't important or relevant to her. And Frieren probably has Flamme to thank for that, honestly. Low key, Flamme the Human is the most immortal character in this story.
I've seen the "evil twin/clone" trope in so many shows/movies. Some do it terribly, some do it competently and some do it well. I have NEVER seen it done as well as in this show. Frieren has amazing writing! Each detail was so well thought out, from the strategizing to each move of each fight scene.
whenever u see serie use the "an apprentice i took on a whim" u know she cared deeply. in the end, she still fulfilled flamme's will, heading the continental magic association.
If anyone aside from Fern and Frieren had gone in that room... they would have gotten bodied in the first 2 seconds of the fight 😂🤣😂 Fern went from turn based combat to bullet hell mode in 0.01 seconds!!!
The thing is, Serie seems to feel threatened by humans. She's therefore trying to make Frieren cautious of them, wanting to protect her from them. But Frieren doesn't see humans as a threat to begin with. A human could kill her, but so could an elf, dwarf or a demon. Except humans, elves, and dwarves won't WANT to kill her for no reason. Frieren sees the humanity in people, while Serie only sees battlefields. Truly, Frieren was a mage born for an era of peace. The part about humans having short lives and should make decisions fast hits hard.
I disagree slightly. I don't get the sense Serie was threatened by humans, moreso she's just very rational and pragmatic about it. She know how quick human's develop. She's seen through people like Flamme how humans will work their butts off to develop and create a foundation for those who come after to stand on. Standing on the shoulders of giants and all that. Meanwhile Serie and Frieren don't really have that. They live for thousands of years but they lack the level of drive and determination that humanity has on top of natural benefits like what Frieren was talking about to Fern where for Fern zoltraak is this natural spell she's known all her life as a mage, something Frieren doesn't have. So it's less that Serie is intimidated by them and more she just recognizes how things are going to progress. She's basically running a marathon solo against an opponent who keeps passing the baton to better and better runners. It ties back to earlier in the series when Frieren broke the barrier "This is why I can't give up being a mage, because with magic even heaven and earth can be flipped upside down." Magic is the great equalizer in this world. It makes the impossible possible turning what was once fairy tales into reality, and Serie knows that no matter how powerful she is eventually someone will come along who will turn the tables on her. And if anything I think she relishes that fact. I think she looks forward to it. My theory is that is why she takes on apprentices like Flamme, in the hopes that she will eventually find the one who will surpass her.
I was surprised at how actually simple and quick it seemed. Also I’m really looking forward to the others holding back the replicas, unless the girls get to the thing first
I like the simple fact that for Frieren's super spells, the colors are in infrareds and ultraviolets cuz we just can't visually comprehend how broken she is
I was telling wifey that as soon as they get the drop or think they got the drop on this thing watch ferns copy show up. I'm almost positive that she's waiting in the background like the real fern is....we have not seen ferns copy yet...at all..
This entire episode i was on edge that Replica Fern was also inside that room with Replica Frieren, stealthing it up, and the second our actual mages think theyve won: *Replica Zoltraak*
Yeah basically serie just like frieren before himmel death (before every memories they make together came to hit her in the head). For me in serie case she is like old enough to feel numb about that anymore or just she doesnt have that realize moments (what i mean there is a time like you doesnt feel anything or have a time to sad when you lose someone, and its take sometimes to realize that they're really gone). I don't know what thats called but i hope its clear what i mean.
freiren a role model fr, i'm tryna be so nasty i'm unphased, thinking about the economic state of the world while my clone's fist is tryna make my nose touch the inner regions of my brain
Fern is HER
One punch man season 3 special announcement trailer reaction?
Fern is most definitely her
Frieren isn't going down this easily
I hope y'all do the Slime movie and the 3 episode Coleus OVA before season 3 starts
Are y'all gonna watch DUNE PART TWO?
“I don’t like any of these humans on this planet, imma wait 200 years till there’s a whole new set” Sheera killed me with that comment 😂
Reminds me of that DBZA line.
Frieza: So for the 1st Century I'll go easy on them, lure them into a false sense of security. And then when they think I'm not so bad, BAM! I'll go full tyrant on them in the 2nd Century. After that I'll disappear for a millennium and make them wonder if I ever existed to begin with. Just to come back and kill them all.
She was on fire!
This drop is trash, let's just pay 200 years for a reroll. This drop is trash, let's pay 200 years for a reroll. This drop is trash-
Well that gives the meaning procrastination a whole new meaning when u can wait ure entire environment away.
@@Shiniusthis sounds so fucked😂😂
Serei: "Oh, she dead. I don't care" **proceeds to reminisce and think fondly of her while praising her**
Tsundere behavior smh.
Even better, when Frieren asks if she's sad she doesn't answer, saying instead "I only trained her on a whim."
Not only that, she ultimately fulfilled her last wish and heads the largest human magic organization on the continent, having taken many apprentices over the years.
Flamme got this 2 elves wrap around her fingers even after death 😂
elf moment
Serie is such a tsundere in a way. Refusing to admit how much she loved Flamme.
Goes on a monologue about every detail of her life what she loved and how she achived her dreams.
The message behind it i think is that she hates how short lived humans are and hated how Flamme was not going to live to see the results of her work.
Totally agree and then she tries to cover it up with her disdain for humans evolving faster than other long lived race because they accomplish more in shorter time
nah, she does that with every single one of her disciple, even tho she feels nothing about them, but she remembers
@@AthallaNaufal-yo2xtNo, she's literally just Frieren before Himmel's funeral. She didn't cry because emotions suddenly got created like the Big Bang in her. She always felt these things, yet remained completely disconnected and unknowing of what it meant.
She's just never made the realization. The fact she goes out of her way to point out that "she doesn't know why she remembers so clearly" couldn't be way more obvious.
It's the same thing as when Frieren says her journey with her party to kill the Demon King was " a mere 10 year adventure"
She didn't want to admit it. She's much older than Frieren, so she probably got used to pushing humans away because of their short lifespan.
In her eyes it might not even be worth it to get emotionally attached if they're just going to die in what seems like no time.
Those flashbacks tell me that Flamme managed to worm her way into her feelings regardless.
Episode Title: "A Fatal Vulnerability"
My dumbass thought it was the Mimic💀
It could have been!
I honestly believe that the author expected everyone to jump straight to this and included the, "so, we should expect the clone to have the same behavior as Frieren" to make everyone think that's where it was going. Myself, my kid, and nearly every reactor I've watched thus far all thought that.
Obviously they couldn't use that, since the real Frieren would have fallen first.
All of us probably did 💀
@@diostaku2😂 true
Stop detecting mana when casting a spell, it's like closing your eyes every time you throw a punch in boxing
It really is an amateur's mistake 😭
Too bad she hits like Mike Tyson
But that delay is very short, she will immediately put up a defensive shield after you expose your mana for her to detect. Very few mages can take advantage of that weakness of hers.
@@crackers5422 LMAOOO
I'd say it's more your radar temporarily switching off before you bring up a barrier, my eyes are still open i just lose my spacial awareness for a brief moment. But just cause there's a weakness there doesn't mean you'll be quick enough to exploit it, that like having a boss with an exposed core but you have a second to attack before it closes and attack/kills you. It's all down to timing.
I love how at the start of their battle, Frieren and clone are exchanging their readings on each other by erecting barriers in different positions preemptively, like "Whop- Gotcha- Whop- Not there!"
That was such a great little detail. Nobody talks about it but I thought it was great being able to see it.
This was a detail I picked up on as well!! And I LOVED it. So badass! 😅
Serie literally went through the 5 stages of grief in that scene. Tsundere for her adoptive daughter Flamme.
5:30 “This is not a gag, it’s just how lesbians flirt” is insane 💀
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Finally, seeing Frieren use non ordinary offense magic after talking about her flashy spells was worth the wait
It's crazy that Flamme was raised by the most knowledgable elf mage in the world, then trained the one who would become the most skilled. All while laying the foundation for magical research. I love magical lady Plato.
Is Frieren the most skilled mage tho?
Nah it's serie@@coniwiiuwu5578
@@coniwiiuwu5578 it could be , in manga u could see that the biggest ability that frieren has is to analyze all kind of magic she see and see could find a way to counter or even to use that spell
@@coniwiiuwu5578 I think there's a decent case for it. She's the strongest in terms of raw magic that we've seen, although I wouldn't be surprised if Serie or a couple demons outmatched her there. She has a broad range of combat experience from her time with Himmel, and her expertise is hyper-niche spells like that stupidly powerful barrier and the bird capture magic. She can demonstrably be beaten and she's not a genius like Qual who revolutionizes the field, but I think her combination of raw power, experience, and esoteric techniques is one that few could match.
@@Narifamen I know Serie would wash Frieren but I do kinda want to see a fight between those two. Would be interesting to see what they use against each other.
"You pick the stupidest comments to be in the video!!!" immediately gets picked to be in the video XD
For me it wasn't subtle at all... it was clear as day that Serie truly cared, loved and appreciated Flamme... She wanted to reminisce about her while walking and talking with Frieren about her, she was visualizing all the way till the reached the edge, she knew and remembered her favorite spell, he dreams and her aspirations. When you dont give a ish about someone you don't retain so specific and detailed memories of the things they represented or the things they loved.
We more or less had kind of the same reaction from Frieren towards her time with both Flamme and Himmel. Probably not knowing how to deal with communicating their feelings or something.
Yeah basically serie just like frieren before himmel death (before every memories they make together came to hit her in the head). For me in serie case she is like old enough to feel numb about that anymore or just she doesnt have that realize moments (what i mean there is a time like you doesnt feel anything or have a time to sad when you lose someone, and its take sometimes to realize that they're really gone). I don't know what thats called but i hope its clear what i mean.
@@muhammadfadel3183 she is exactly like frieren. she pretended its something natural, she kept saying how humans die before you even know it, and finally she went and continued the dream of Flamme anyways. Just like Frieren keeps doing what Himmel would do. Man i love this show.
Himmel casually one tap that monster while Frieren spell barely knocked it on its ass is crazy. Himmel must have crazy STR and AGI build.
bruh you have no idea.
himmel is the only character in this anime that has the word HIM
And to think he has all of that without being considered an "official" hero by the world. He really is him.
He's like the Gojo of his time. Demons did not rear their ugly heads until they were sure he was 6 feet under.
@kevinganchero2104 To be fair it was shown at some point even as an old man (before the second meteor shower) he could take on monsters so I don't blame them tbh.
I love that smile/smirk Frieren had when her clone fell into her trap into Fern's Zoltraak, it just screams "Yeah, that's my student, that's my girl"
frieren and fern are some of the best female characters i've seen in anime in a WHILE.
The girl form apothecary diaries is also one of the best aswell
@KaiserReinhard no way you put hori and yosano here.... lmao
@KaiserReinhard yosano definitely has one of the best backstories in the show but it didn't magically make her an interesting/good character. i personally love her, but she doesn't apply to the discussion of outstanding female characters because she's not one. i'm not familiar with most characters on your list but i'm a big fan of bsd and dislike horimiya so at least i can confidently say both yosano and hori aren't well-written. with yosano it's definitely the writer's decision to start developing her character so late into the story that her amazing backstory didn't add much. she's a stagnant character and other characters in bsd suffer from that as well
@KaiserReinhard i still love yosano as well, and i will always hope the writer of bsd will utilize the female characters better ;;
Frieren and Maomao as great female MCs within the last year. 👌
Those alternating scenes between the real and fake Frieren are some of the rawest scenes in any anime in the recent years. Especially the one where they just walk towards each other surrounded by black flames. I'm so glad I decided to watch this anime.
I love how serie raised flamme. It makes Serie more empathic, even for a elf. 3 Episodes left guys, lets hope that comes more :D
The random guy reading this comment: you have a nice anime taste^^
I'm pretty sure that Frieren's clone used Zoltraak when it was just the other mages who entered the room in the previous episode, but now it's using much more "advanced" magics when facing off against Frieren.
Like that first lightening spell would have wiped half of the other mages right off the bat if they had participated in this fight. I mean it instantly AOEd the entire room. Then that fire spell literally vaporized that huge stone block. Even the "Zoltraak" the clone used the previous episode was almost an instant party wipe.
So like Frieren said, Zoltraak is enough to defeat the mages of this era.
Frieren sure wasn’t using “ordinary offensive magic” when she fought herself. They both came out swinging with the S-tier spells on sight. 7:17
Well she is not the mage of the current era, even when fighting Aura she use dispell magic.
Haha exactly it was exciting to see her use some high level spells finally
It's interesting how in spite of her dialogue she cared for flamme, the faint expression in her face show the opposite of what she says a few times throughout the chapter
This is basically you fight the Boss with the unlock boss character you played be like:
Frieren and Serie may have conflicting ideas on magic, but that scene shows that the two still relate in a way no humans can.
It's hard to notice because Seerie talks in a lower register, but she's also female. Flamme was essentially an adopted daughter to Seerie... and Frieren was an adopted daughter to Flamme... and Fern was and adopted daughter to Frieren.
Their stories parallel each other pretty well, and Flamme really understood both her "mother" and her "daughter".
Who was confused about Serie being female?
@@garyjay7259 idk what their saying.
@@garyjay7259 When Serie shreds Flamme's will Roshi says "Damn, he said 'but I dont give a damn about this will'". I've seen the misunderstanding in a few other places too, because Serie in the show is never referred to with female pronouns, only by name.
I wasn't necessarily trying to call anyone out, just noting that Serie is a woman for those who were uncertain or thought it was ambiguous.
@@garyjay7259a lot of people, surprisingly
Honestly I was pleasantly surprised by her low timbre. She has a damn nice voice. For some reason I was expecting a high pitched one when I saw her in the op. I was probably reminded of Aura. But this is wayyyy cooler
Serie keeps sayin "Flamme is just a stundent I taught on a whim" again and again
I think this is just her way of coping with the loss of the actual best human pupil there could ever be, like, she's just trying to convince herself at this point
It's like Frieren's "it's a mere 10 years journey"
That walking animation between Frieren and her copy was clean
Serie out here proving that elf copium is something else
I like how there's a lot of combat logic that you can tie to other games. In Terraria, usually the bosses will aim after one person whilst shooting long range projectiles towards them, which is somewhat predictable for the one being targeted, but not so predictable and easy to dodge if you're a bystander. Less is definitely more in this situation where their lives are actually on the line. And right off the bat, Frieren casted a long-ranged AOE lightning spell, really hammering the point in.
The plan was a sum of all they could exploit to catch Frieren. It was her mana detection stopping, the fact that zoltraak is new to her so her response is slow and the fact even detecting mana she has trouble sensing Fern. It was a pretty good plan not depending on just 1 thing 👌
It's hilarious how that tiny stint of Frieren fighting herself just highlighted how above everyone else she was. Ain't nobody finishing the dungeon, even if they were all fighting together, if Frieren wasn't there to match herself.
Well, if Frieren wasn’t there, the strongest mage would only be Sense.
Spoilers:
Which would be incredibly easy to defeat because Ubel’s cleave cuts through anything she thinks she can cut.
@@andrewli6606 good luck spamming cleave to all these multiple attacks at the same time. also good luck getting in range to actually use it on that replica.
If frieren wasn't there, most people would've cleared the dungeon. Her presence messed up the balance of the whole exam. Even in the first phase, strong mages like denken had to struggle while weak mages like kanne and lawine easily passed because of frieren
@@reignmans Ubel literally did lol
@@reignmans sense knows that she doesn't stand a chance against ubel. It's all about matchup.
The way this episode is directed is fucking masterful. I have never been so fully engaged in a battle, so captivated by the characters and their chemistry and relationships, and so immersed in the world building and lore in an anime more so than Frieren.
Edit: 9:55 glad to see y’all are enjoying that anime.
I don't watch slice of life anime but frieren has become one of my top 5 anime and probably always will be. We don't need boom bam animation every single episode (although we have that here too). I'm just happy to watch these characters come to life.
Frieren said flamme always seemed like she was in rush. Serie said that we all have points in our life where we have to make a crucial decision but elves they live so long they can push it as much as they want. Humans live so close to death (a mere century for most less) they can't afford to wait.
How many beautiful moments can one show have?
Also when the battle of frieren vs clone frieren started, both were preemptively casting defensive magic which is a great touch of detail to how great of a mage she is.
Lol, thinking Serie had no empathy only to find out Serie's tsundere and raised Flamme with love since Flamme was a little girl.
Note that Serie's basically fufilling Flamme's will right now as head of the magic continent association.
The editor crack me up with some of the annotations/subtitle changes. Always gets me when I least expect it.
this anime just doesn’t miss… istg it better win a bunch of awards
That Zoltorakk was personal, I can see soo much joy on fern eyes
I think yall are forgetting that the monster is the one controlling the replicas, not the examiners. The replicas replicate all of the mages' mana, abilities, and mannerisms, but the monster controlling them is giving the directions. The replicas arent gonna be pacifists and go easy because this is a test, cuz they dont care. Sense only said that she was a pacifist in the sense that she gave all the examinees bottles to get them out safely if they choose to use them. So when the monster in the dungeon's goal is to kill any people coming towards it and stay alive, the replicas are gonna have that goal, and while they might go about it in their own way based on the personality of the person they are mimicking, the goal is to kill
Frieren got to see her her own total defeat at the hands of a mage who can surpass her, who she taught no less, and gets to live to tell the tale. No wonder she's smiling.
"This is not a gag, this is how lesbians flirt" I see you
8:28 holy shit, that is an amazing observation I hadn't thought of. Flamme and Himmel taught Frieren how to empathize
The way I saw Fern showing everyone Frieren's weakness is that:
1. Even if they know her weakness, Frieren would still win.
2. Frieren probably only has to deal with these people for the duration of the exam (which is like 5 minutes to her).
3. Why would she worry about a small group of strangers knowing her weakness if they're going be dead in less than a mere 100 years (likely a lot less than that for most of them).
@11:55 she didn't need to tell her because she figured Frieren already knew. and clearly she did.....lol
That'd be like telling a 40 something year old DBZ fan that Goku can go super saiyan.
Loved the conversation at the end. When you started talking about Side Step being an OP anime move, I suddenly thought: "Is Zoltraak just a super advanced version of Pocket Sand?"
A sad fact is that no matter how much they cherish the memories, they probably won't be able to visit Flamme's grave anymore 😢 unless Serie preserved it, but i doubt since it didn't look like she asked where it was
When you realize there are 3 episodes left, but spring brings back 3 beloved fantasy series
Which ones bro?
@@JPSaga77 konosuba, mushoku tensei and reincarnated as a slime
@KaiserReinhard Demon slayer is barely even Fantasy
@KaiserReinhard I don't think they're reacting to misfit anymore, and to me demon slayer ain't fantasy, it's supernatural
@@jewelabyss and slime is meant to be two 2 episodes every week
5:31 excuse me?😂😂😂😂😂
I love how much Sheera gets and vibes with this anime!
Sheera did not say "a whole new set" 😂😂
Serie is voiced by Maria Ise who also voices Killua (HxH -2011), Juiz (Undead Unluck), Reg (Made in Abyss), Ray (The Promise Neverland), Stocking (Panty & Stocking), Sen (Ben To), Kiku (One Piece), Himeno (Chainsaw Man), Guila (7 Deadly Sins), Levy & Romeo (Fairy Tail), Bonnie & others (Pokemon), Dorothy (Black Clover), Myouga (Medoka Box), Lenessia & Itherus (Log Horizon), Wizard Boy (Goblin Slayer), Foo & Atroe (JoJo), Mika & young Shinara (Durarara), Sanzu (Kyuketsuki Sugu Shinu), Syria (Maken-ki), Ludmila (Lord Marksman & Vanadis), Yukina (Kabaneri of the Iron Fortress), Sonoka (Masamune-kun’s Revenge), Haruki (Heavenly Delusion), Erika (Maid Sama), Miku (The Idaten Deities Know Only Peace), Tiger Lily & Sherbet (Cookie Run: Kingdom), & many more
And also, kid Gojo (JJK) :D
oh no wonder she sounds like killua
Never forget a Demon had a rope tied around her neck and Frieren was just blocking it with raw mana output.
Let's go, 0 frame fullscreen beam assist Fern.
I think my two favorite choreo bits from this were the Frierens sizing each other up with their shields moving back and forth, and then later the clone doing a down-heavy with the lightning spell to cut the hellfire spell.
@6:30 yea.....it would still only be Frieren and Fern that walked out.....the rest can't hold a candle to Frieren when she is unchained by a conscience....
5:54 more like he came into the dungeon Babalazed 😂😂
it's funny how I watched this and The Blind Bandit | Avatar Book 2 Ep 6 Reaction from three years ago you said the same thing about the Side Step haha
So basically " She was only ever a student i trained on a whim" Is Seire Version of "it's only mere ten years"
10:36 actually crazy statement
5:30 Lol, based editor.
The second ending is literally foreshadowing the future, everything is repeating itself, fern will eventually die, but frieren will remain, thats why, you see frieren lying down at the grave, but at the end of the ending, she is in fern lap... same spot were the grave was
Sheera with a great catch there on Frieren's "weakness", anyone else other than Frieren herself that steps in the room is dead.
Meanwhile Roshi still tripping about Fern "revealing" it to people like anyone other than Frieren could distract Frieren. 😂
9:10
Lupasan for real thanks for always making me laugh 😂
The cool thing is, even 1000 years ago Frieren wasn't like Serie. She rejected Serie's offer of a spell because it just wasn't important or relevant to her. And Frieren probably has Flamme to thank for that, honestly. Low key, Flamme the Human is the most immortal character in this story.
5:30 as a girl who likes girls, i can confirm that LMAO
A comment I saw on another vid that has me HYPED for next episode is that we haven't seen the Fern replica yet 🤯
spoiler alert , its weak , fern is just like an assassins mage , not suitable to duel face to face ...
@@andyserizawa That's not how you use spoiler tags.
I've seen the "evil twin/clone" trope in so many shows/movies. Some do it terribly, some do it competently and some do it well. I have NEVER seen it done as well as in this show. Frieren has amazing writing! Each detail was so well thought out, from the strategizing to each move of each fight scene.
whenever u see serie use the "an apprentice i took on a whim" u know she cared deeply. in the end, she still fulfilled flamme's will, heading the continental magic association.
If anyone aside from Fern and Frieren had gone in that room... they would have gotten bodied in the first 2 seconds of the fight 😂🤣😂
Fern went from turn based combat to bullet hell mode in 0.01 seconds!!!
Loool this was the one of the funniest post-reaction discussions in a while.
Sidesteps are also used in video games like minecraft, COD, LOL etc. It is pretty OP
5:30 Lawine and Kanne really ensuring the lesbian domestic violence statistic stayes up there
Fern on that batman prep time
Animation went crazy this episode
So glad you guys watched Pluto. S tier show.
Watched the first episode but the piano scene put me to sleep, i guess it's better if you watched Astroboy before.
God I love how that fight starts, both subtly aiming their staffs and responding with rapid barriers.
The thing is, Serie seems to feel threatened by humans. She's therefore trying to make Frieren cautious of them, wanting to protect her from them. But Frieren doesn't see humans as a threat to begin with. A human could kill her, but so could an elf, dwarf or a demon. Except humans, elves, and dwarves won't WANT to kill her for no reason. Frieren sees the humanity in people, while Serie only sees battlefields.
Truly, Frieren was a mage born for an era of peace.
The part about humans having short lives and should make decisions fast hits hard.
I disagree slightly. I don't get the sense Serie was threatened by humans, moreso she's just very rational and pragmatic about it. She know how quick human's develop. She's seen through people like Flamme how humans will work their butts off to develop and create a foundation for those who come after to stand on. Standing on the shoulders of giants and all that. Meanwhile Serie and Frieren don't really have that. They live for thousands of years but they lack the level of drive and determination that humanity has on top of natural benefits like what Frieren was talking about to Fern where for Fern zoltraak is this natural spell she's known all her life as a mage, something Frieren doesn't have. So it's less that Serie is intimidated by them and more she just recognizes how things are going to progress. She's basically running a marathon solo against an opponent who keeps passing the baton to better and better runners. It ties back to earlier in the series when Frieren broke the barrier "This is why I can't give up being a mage, because with magic even heaven and earth can be flipped upside down." Magic is the great equalizer in this world. It makes the impossible possible turning what was once fairy tales into reality, and Serie knows that no matter how powerful she is eventually someone will come along who will turn the tables on her. And if anything I think she relishes that fact. I think she looks forward to it. My theory is that is why she takes on apprentices like Flamme, in the hopes that she will eventually find the one who will surpass her.
@@CeliriaRose great mental image you've come up with. Kudos to you!
Fern is a beautiful example of:
"Strong foundation and understanding the basics, is key".
Not me dying of laughter after reading today's video comment. I was like..um no...wait yes!
10:39 "a whole new set" is crazy LMAO
That's why Frieren gets cautious when Fern is in a bad mood.
Frieren and Fern just casually being her.
I was surprised at how actually simple and quick it seemed.
Also I’m really looking forward to the others holding back the replicas, unless the girls get to the thing first
Never 1v1 yourself.
Always bring the pocket sand and a pinch hitter.
I hope they show some of the matchups they end up going with outside the final room.. I gotta know how they handle ferns clone
I like the simple fact that for Frieren's super spells, the colors are in infrareds and ultraviolets cuz we just can't visually comprehend how broken she is
Did you guys notice Frieren replica using Blink?
Frieren is so proud 😂
Roshi really needs to see World Trigger, and see the true test of the sidestep.
Frieren is basically raising the first human that could kill her.
Frieren's so OP, the only creature that can match her is herself. 😅
They really throw us to a whole flashback sequence right before fern's killing blow lol.
@7:30 LOL Raw level 3 Super.
I was telling wifey that as soon as they get the drop or think they got the drop on this thing watch ferns copy show up. I'm almost positive that she's waiting in the background like the real fern is....we have not seen ferns copy yet...at all..
A drunk incapacitated teammate in a fight is the average solo que league experience.
I hope y'all do the Slime movie and the 3 episode Coleus OVA before season 3 starts
😂 RIP everbody dying to Fern's mimic
This show always makes me wonder how overlord would've turned out if madhouse wasn't restricted on what they could do with the show
This entire episode i was on edge that Replica Fern was also inside that room with Replica Frieren, stealthing it up, and the second our actual mages think theyve won:
*Replica Zoltraak*
Yeah basically serie just like frieren before himmel death (before every memories they make together came to hit her in the head). For me in serie case she is like old enough to feel numb about that anymore or just she doesnt have that realize moments (what i mean there is a time like you doesnt feel anything or have a time to sad when you lose someone, and its take sometimes to realize that they're really gone). I don't know what thats called but i hope its clear what i mean.
freiren a role model fr, i'm tryna be so nasty i'm unphased, thinking about the economic state of the world while my clone's fist is tryna make my nose touch the inner regions of my brain
Gatekeeping magic is wild 💀