185: PNSO Torosaurus (Aubrey and Dabei 2022) Review
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- Опубліковано 30 вер 2024
- At last! After lacking a good Torosaurus for a long time, and losing hope with each offering of a new Triceratops, PNSO has delivered with a Torosaurus to have and to hold!
And what a Torosaurus. In terms of anatomical detail, sculpting, a mean frill pattern, and texturing that is improved even from the recent Triceratops Doyle, this is PNSO at its best, offering continual improvement even when most unexpected!
This Torosaurus captures all the detail that makes Torosaurus, Torosaurus. Unambiguously so, from the frill to the lack of a midline epiparietal, which means you can proudly display it as a well-defined, specimen of an entirely distinct genus from Triceratops.
We now have a new chasmosaurine to add to the Triceratops, and this bodes very well for the selection from PNSO indeed. Just a Chasmosaurus more, and I will consider myself satisfied for now.
The Triceratops is Torosaurus is an old controversy that still rears its ugly head from time to time, and with this offering, PNSO has taken a stand, even including a baby Torosaurus in what must seem like a slap to that theory. Still, the whole story is fascinating, and you should check out the articles below for some racy reading.
Scannella J, Horner JR (2010) Torosaurus Marsh, 1891 is Triceratops, Marsh, 1889 (Ceratopsidae: Chasmosaurinae) synonymy through ontogeny. Journal of Vertebrate Paleontology 30: 1157-1168
Longrich NR, Field DJ (2012) Torosaurus Is Not Triceratops: Ontogeny in Chasmosaurine Ceratopsids as a Case Study in Dinosaur Taxonomy. PLoS ONE 7(2): e32623. doi:10.1371/journal.pone.0032623
Maiorino L, Farke AA, Kotsakis T, Piras P (2013) Is Torosaurus Triceratops? Geometric Morphometric Evidence of Late Maastrichtian Ceratopsid Dinosaurs . PLoS ONE 8(11): e81608. doi:10.1371/journal.pone.0081608
Farke AA (2011) Anatomy and Taxonomic Status of the Chasmosaurine Ceratopsid Nedoceratops hatcheri from the Upper Cretaceous Lance Formation of Wyoming, U.S.A.. PLoS ONE 6(1): e16196. doi:10.1371/journal.pone.0016196
Mallon JC, Holmes RB, Bamforth EL and Schumann D (2021) The record of Torosaurus (Ornithischia: Ceratopsidae) in Canada and its taxonomic implications. Zoological Journal of the Linnaean Society, 2022, XX, 1-15
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Your reviews are without a doubt the most informative, knowledgeable and interesting ones out there. I always learn so much new stuff and I have to watch out that your enthusiasm and eagerness in your speech don’t lead me right into buying one for myself haha. I’ve decided to reduce my collecting to vintage toys and sauropods a while back (bc of the costs and shelf space) but the way you talk about all their latest ceratopsian releases really give me a hard time sticking to sauropods only. And they look great as well of course. Never stop what you‘re doing!
Absolutely, nailed it in the first line!
@TooOldForDinosaurs Thank you very much for your kind words indeed! One of my goals with my reviews is to help people decide if they want something, or if they already have it, to point out aspects to appreciate so that they can enjoy their figures even more! Insofar as playing some small part in threatening your wallet with ruin, I have to apologize 🤣 Still, there are some that I hope you will doubtless be able to enjoy vicariously via my videos without adding to the damage!
Incidentally, sauropods are my favourite dinosaur group, and I can see how any minimalist will want to have at least those! Hopefully PNSO will give us some decently sized sauropods, but we have at least a breather in this direction as they will most likely offer Sinraptor and Acrocanthosaurus next!
I love the science, helps me rationalize my adicction 😂
This piece looks absolutely excellent. I love the inclusion of a baby, it really sells the idea that Torosaurus is not Triceratops. This might be wishful thinking, but I would personally like a figure of T. prorsus in the future.
Yes! Horridus really gets all the fame. I really can't think of a single Prorsus figure.
I would definitely second that, but I think that being as expensive as they are, only the very hardcore enthusiast would prefer a prorsus above new dinosaurs, so I suspect PNSO may get to it, but only after a lot of more differentiated ceratopsians are released. I'd love a few more chasmosaurines!
One of your best reviews yet. And that is saying a lot. Thank you for all the time and effort you put into these. Such a valuable resource for us collectors. Unfortunately in this case, your information was so good that it changed my mind on my initial decision not to buy this. So my wallet will again be lighter as a result.
@Michael Kawano
My condolences on the impending loss from your wallet 😂 However I can truly say that this is one model that has a real presence, and I don't think I highlighted enough just how massive this thing really looks compared to the other offerings so far. Even now on my desk it still seems to take up a much bigger space than previous occupants! I daresay that compared to some of my favourite large ceratopsians of recent memory, the EoFauna, Safari Ltd, and PNSO Triceratopses, this one has to be my favourite!
@@DinosDragons thank you! And I forgot to say in my original comment, I’m very happy you’re recovered! Take care.
I love ur reviews, you are my favorite dinosaur toy ytuber
I second this!
Thanks @Mario Gamarra and @Lee Pollington ! Appreciate the support, especially as there are so many other good reviewers on UA-cam!
She looks beautiful!!! And the baby is so cute!
I hope I'll be able to grab her for my birthday! Can't spend too much at the moment after spending $200 on my cat's vet bill DX
She's fine though and is back to her normal self :)
I'm delighted to hear it! I just spent a couple hundred on mine to get some tests done, but fortunately it was a baseless scare and she's heart, hale, and greedy as ever 😁 But cats are family too and deserve to be cared for as such!
Man I really wish we could get like a Utahraptor or Deinonychus from PNSO in the 1:35 scale. I know it would be small, but that’s okay
I'd certainly agree! It would make a very nice representation of the diverse range of dinosaurs, but I am guessing that PNSO would make those in a larger size. I'm surprised they haven't given us one of the popular raptors yet after all these years! Judging from their Microraptor, it would be outstanding!
Thank you once again for another wonderful review. I really appreciate how you broke down the Longrich/Field and Maiorino papers - I've always wondered if Torosaurus was indeed a Triceratops after all, but I think this breakdown has answered that question conclusively.
If I were a raging Ceratopsian fan, I would be going nuts for all these wonderful releases that PNSO has been churning out. The fact that they are largely in scale (Toro, Trike, Styraco, Centro, etc) is such a delicious cherry on top of the already-remarkable sculpt quality. Alas, I have to limit myself to acquiring only my absolutely favourite dinos, so as not to break the bank...
That baby is also absolutely adorable. Would make a great companion for little Rook, whom I'm glad also had a cameo (:
@Quiversaurus
Thank you for actually watching the science part of the video 😁😂 It's a little passion of mine to try to share some of these papers and a challenge not to omit important parts or key bridging concepts. It's really rewarding that viewers like yourself feel they are of value! 😁
From time to time, new papers arise still to talk about this issue, so I would say that Horner managed to stir up a real hornet's nest that still has repercussions today.
PNSO really makes life difficult for us! On the one hand they delight us with each offering; on the other hand it often seems like they're trying to bleed us dry! 😁 I understand however that there is a sale of sort on Aliexpress, with discounted prices and free shipping to the US, so you might like to check that out.
I'm glad that someone else likes Rook! It's easy to overlook and forget, but little baby dinosaurs deserve lots of love too! 😁
Definitely keep doing the science portions, I'm sure I'm not the only one who learns so much with every new review - we can even revisit them anytime we want (:
There's also Jon Favreau's Prehistoric Planet documentary coming up, so hyped for that, a modern successor to Walking with Dinosaurs. and narrated by David Attenborough no less!
(Baby dinos are great for imagining scale imo - if Rook is the right scale, he looks like he'd be the size of a calf or foal - helps with imagining!)
Too bad to hear you got sick, but glad you are well, I hope you are feeling much better.
I was waiting for your review of the Torosaurus and man as always you have done a spectacular job!! so much so that I have already ordered it 😅 thank you so much for making content like this, not only do you help to make the best purchase also we learn a lot with your videos.
Thank you Pez! I am feeling better though still recovering; I have heard that recovery from Covid is quite slow for many people!
You're most welcome, I'm very glad that there are viewers like you who like my content. I just couldn't let it rest with a model review alone without opening my mouth about the dinosaur itself, and especially one I like as much as this! 😁
It's a beautiful figure, but I think PNSO has done quite enough ceratopsians for the time being. I wish they'd make more spinosaurids...suchomimus or baryonyx would be great.
Before Zhuchengtyrannus, I would probably say that most spinosaurids really are too fragmentary to be of much interest, but after Zhuchengtyrannus, I think anything (other than Mercuriceratops!) goes! I'd love a real 1:35 updated Spinosaurus from them too. And the maniraptorans are conspicuously absent from PNSO's offerings!
@@DinosDragons simply upscaling the new and updated Essien would be a good start!
I'll definitely be getting this one - shame about the lack of cheeks though, for a personal preference.
@Lee Pollington
If it's any consolation, after a while, you actually don't notice it as much. This is such an impressive model I've had it on my desk for a few days now, and won't be shelving it anytime soon, and each time it really strikes me how massively impressive and powerful this animal is. I think Torosaurus might as well mean "bull lizard"!
Beautiful. I'm glad we have a Torosaurus...
So am I! This one is absolutely commanding on my desk or the shelf! One of PNSO's best work so far.
So glad you’ve recovered. It did give me a chance to backtrack and watch the dragon reviews, though.
This is a very well done figure other than being cheek-less and having the, what appears to me, an unfinished backside of the frill.
I will be picking this up but I’ll be doing some after market paint application to that area.
As always, this video is head and shoulders above others due to your continuing dedication to provide some science along with the fun.
Another home run review.
@Thomas Monroe
Thank you for your generous words! Torosaurus is one of those dinosaurs that I really have plenty to say, and I am absolutely delighted to get a model that is unequivocally Torosaurus. The rear of the frill and the abruptness from the neck is quite puzzling, but if you are able to paint then you can really do no better than to give what I consider a superlative sculpt the paint application you want exactly.
I've often wishes I'd learnt how to do simple painting in cases like this where just one little change would make a world of difference, but still, I really can't complain. This is a massive model and it currently has a very imposing presence on my table!
It’s probably going to be an easy fix but the process of matching color schemes can be daunting if dabbling in paint correction is not the norm. I have done model repairs for years and still learn something new every once in a while. A little patience and practice is really all it takes when I run up against a wall.
This guy will probably start with a carefully applied coat of dark grey acrylics on the back of the frill with some subtle lighter tones and accents.
If I need to seal it will be determined after everything dries.
The orange is just too jarringly out of place.
I try not to do the “favorites” thing with dinosaurs but most of us do, anyhow.
Torosaurus has always fascinated me just due to the immense size of its skull/frill.
What an amazing thing it would be to see a herd of such huge animals.
Having said that, let’s all do what we can to encourage and ensure the continued existence of our extant large animals like elephants, rhino, whales, etc.
Find legit organizations that work toward real world applications to save our fellow space travelers and give what you can.
hi ! nice reviews ! if i may ask, which country are you from?
I think you should include an unboxing part at the beginning. Many of us would be interested how PNSO managed to do it.
Unfortunately that would make my videos far too long, and I also like people to have at least _some_ surprise when they get their own figures, so you don't lose that thrill about opening the box and removing the contents inside. Luckily, there are some excellent UA-camrs who take up my slack in this area 😁
@@DinosDragonsUnfortunately I didn't find any channel that would continously explore this niche and it would only take an additional minute which can be skipped easily.
But I understand your point, your videos still offer the highest standard of quality.
It’s implied that torosaurus had a larger for frill and skull a triceratops was larger
I believe there will be overlap at some point in terms of size variability, but for me the more important point is that these two are now generally accepted to be different. I still cannot believe the idea the two are conspecific was ever seriously considered.
a figure without a doubt very good in the detail and the painting as well as the scales although the detail of the color ruff does not blend very well with the orange color a greeting mate good review 😎👍
@HuertSauri 10 Thanks mate! Indeed, that's the only puzzling aspect for me, as the rest of the animal really looks to me to be near perfect. Even a little blending to soften the transition point would have made a lot of difference! 😁
@@DinosDragons You're welcome mate, greetings and thanks for the extra information you gave in the review 😎👍
I CARE ABOUT NEDOCERATOPS!!!!! LITERALLY THE ONLY CERATOPSIAN I'VE EVER DRAWN!!!!!!
🤣 Excellent! I think you would be delighted with this paper, which I had wanted to include in the video, but which would have added at least 3 minutes so I had to regretfully omit it.
*Farke AA (2011) Anatomy and Taxonomic Status of the Chasmosaurine Ceratopsid Nedoceratops hatcheri from the Upper Cretaceous Lance Formation of Wyoming, U.S.A.. PLoS ONE 6(1): e16196. doi:10.1371/journal.pone.0016196*
Glad you're feeling better after having COVID! Take all the time you need to get better! 🤗
Thank you, the recoevery is quite slow as reported by other people, and being able to speak is something I have learnt not to take for granted! Fortunately I managed to say enough for this review 😁
He's a nice guy. I'm going to order one, too. By the way, I've been waiting for you!
Hahah thank you. This was later than I wanted because of Covid! 🤒
Absolutely forgot the baby torosaurus from WWD. It's been ages.
Haha I used to know the WWD series like the back of my hand!
You can't beat that frill! I always position my ceratopsian specimens at a forward facing angle.
You can say that again! I have to say that compared to the other ceratopsians, this is the one where I knew immediately the thumbnail wouldn't be my customary side profile, because man, this thing is impressive head-on! 😁
@@DinosDragons Can't wait to get one for review! PNSO have really out done themselves with their ceratopsians this year!
He's back! Sorry that you caught covid, hope you're doing better now. And a great review of a great model, yet again. I've wanted a Torosaurus for some time now. I'm waiting for a sale to grab this guy and the Stegosaurus, hopefully. Now for that Acrocanthosaurus and Sinraptor, which I pray are both in the Prehistoric Animals line. I was initially confident that they would be, since the Dinosaur Museum line tended to be reserved for either the most famous dinosaurs worldwide, or famous dinosaurs from China, but with this Torosaurus being released in the latter line, I'm a bit scared.
Thank you, Covid was a real experience! I fancy I am quite strong in constitution, and generally recover from most afflictions in a week or less, but this one being two weeks and a little over was a real surprise!
If I were to guess, I would guess that Sinraptor might be in the Prehistoric Animals line, but Acrocanthosaurus, because of its size if offered at 1:35, as well as its popularity, maybe be in the Museum Line. I think that's what happened with Torosaurus. It is BIG, even bigger than the Triceratops, and since it is rather well-known, it made sense to try for a Museum Line offering.
That said, if there is anything you like, I hear there is an Aliexpress sale with discounts as well as free shipping to the States, so you might like to check it out!
@@DinosDragons I can imagine, it's quite the beast. Glad you've recovered at any rate.
That makes sense, but I'm still hoping they're both Prehistoric Animals models. The similarly-sized Tarbosaurus and Carcharodontosaurus were, so who knows? Thanks for letting me know, but I'm trying to save money at the moment 😔 man I wish I could. Hopefully the next one.
Yo Torosaurus México 🇲🇽
even if amnh 5116 is torosaurus whats wrong? doyle works fine as the female of this torosaurus too with more simple brown and black colors and smaller frill and you can assume that the midline big wide scale at the middle of the top of the frill is some kind of deformation like that styracosaurus with extra horn then the horns and beak are simply part of the individual variation you showed
so in these factors pnso doyle will just change name, the figure will still be accurate representation of amnh 5116 so whatever that one is doyle is too without any body change
i see many people judge the figures quickly just from the promos i wish they looked deeper into them than that and think naturally using even living animals for comparison and logic not just the shape of a skeletal which is btw modified to look perfectly healthy...if for example a dinosaur had scoliosis skeletal won't show it will it? but if a figure decide to make a specimen with a bit of a more deformed arched back or a bit of fat quickly call it inaccurate
after all each figure has name showing they are certain specimens not depictions of the whole species
so as long as a figure has accurate skeleton and muscles its fine for me the rest are only based on logic and possibilities
There is nothing wrong as such. However as someone who is interested in anatomy, and for my viewers who are interested enough to actually watch the science part of my videos, it is only responsible to share the fact that the AMNH5116 which PNSO bases its Triceratops on could in fact be a Torosaurus.
Likewise true to the content on my channel, it is also responsible to point out that while Doyle could be a Torosaurus, PNSO Doyle clearly has a parietal P0 and Torosaurus _latus_ does not. T. _utahensis_ however has been suggested to have one, so Doyle could double up as that species if they like. But it will _not_ be the same species. One can certainly make an argument that any variation forms within an acceptable range of variability, but there is a reason why established species are based on autapomorphies which if visible externally, should be represented on a model.
That way my viewers or anyone watching can decide if that model is exacting enough for their needs. Many of them buy only representative models of dinosaurs, and these aren't cheap figures especially for Western collectors so every bit of information I can give about a model helps them decide one way or other.
Another example is the PNSO Parasaurolophus, based on ROM768 which that spinal pathology which many viewers have told me they do not like, and is the only thing that stops them from buying. Without pointing this out, learners who are unaware would still think that that cleft was a normal feature, as indeed I explain in that video with some depictions even suggesting that cleft makes a nice recess for the end of the head crest.
As for scoliosis, it depends on what kind of scoliosis you are talking about. Congenital scoliosis presents with spinal deformity, and that would certainly show on a skeleton. Functional (non-structural) scoliosis generally has no spinal deformity, being an effect of factors such as muscular imbalance or leg length difference. However even then, one might expect long-term positional abnormalities to result in bone remodelling that could conceivably show.
@@DinosDragons so doyle or more accurately amnh 5116 is simply another torosaurus species? with the holes and stuff covered because of plaster of course
Awesome review again! Thanks for the interesting theory as well. Actually, I'm glad that the jaw can be closed and in that way, it looks a great figure! In my opinion, the best of PNSO (as good as or even little bit better than the Iguanodon Harvey). I guess the Walking With Dinosaur Nostalgic also influences my preference. I already have the Papo Pentaceratops and Triceratops and I would love to see a comparison with them too. They are rather 1:40 scale. Many thanks in advance!
Thank you for your kind words!
WWD was a powerful influence on many people, including myself. I can't believe it's been over 20 years, and no other documentary even comes close in my opinion. Perhaps the upcoming Dinosaur Planet will give us the update we're all looking for, and if there has to be a replacement for Kenneth Branaugh then there could be few so worthy as Sir David Attenborough!
Unfortunately I don't have either of the Papos, so I can't do a comparison. Perhaps when other reviewers get this, they will! 😊
I really hope that PNSO continues on this trajectory, moving into better paint apps and more decently sized figures, and giving us something that differentiates Museum Line figures more in future! I liked the Iguanodon though the dull colours and the Mantellisaurus head was a bit of a letdown.
@@DinosDragons I agree. I'm also surprised that great dinosaur documentaries have been absent for such a long time! Haha with Sir Attenborough would be awesome :D
Damn it, I hope to see a review of Andy or Killershrewfan's soon then :D I truly hope the same. Torosaurus would be my first PNSO figure. I didn't buy the Iguanodon for the exact reason you mention. Every time, I'm upset by the dull colours of the actual figure, which is not corresponding with the release image of PNSO. I'm luckely very selective in buying figures according to my feeling, the paint application and their overall scientific accuracy. That's why I love following your channel!
У PNSO полно фигурок, которые и лучше и достовернее сделаны, в отличие от торозавра и игуанодона.
Would be cool to see PNSO making Theropods with their small chicks too! Like really young theropod babies lol.
And this figure here is awesome! I really love the color of the frill!
Most definitely! I think PNSO would please and console many people by including a little one with their Museum Line models. At least the box won't be so ridiculously big compared to the actual figure itself. Theropod babies would add so much to the illusion of these animals being animals, not monsters!
@@DinosDragons Yes exactly!
Excelente, no entendí nada pero igual, gracias!!!
Jajaja gracias mi amigo! Usted no entiende Inglais? Con suerte, en unos años, si mi español es suficientemente bueno, voy a hacer un video corto en español.
Now this review was pretty sweet and I like it alot
Thank you, I enjoyed doing it!
Beautiful frill.
The mouth threw me off too.
Thank Goodness it worked out in the end. One of my favourite models from PNSO!
I just might go on a PNSO binge someday.
Don't wait too long for those which colours you like though, as newer production runs often have a dramatic falloff.
@@DinosDragons Oh my yes, I found out the hard way with Safari.
A really impressive model, I like it so much but above all I congratulate you on the scientific part of your video, excellent as always.
PS. Man, I really hope you're okay now
@massimiliano petricca
Thank you my friend! I am finally recovered after two unpleasant weeks 😁 Thank you also for watching the science part of my video. It's a passion of mine, and I'm always delighted that someone else takes an interest in that aspect of things! 😊
My favorite ceratopsian!!!!
With what PNSO has done, it could easily become mine. In terms of models, it certainly is my current favourite!
Epic review, I really like the combo duo of the baby and adult Toro,SO GOOD also poor Nedoeratops lol
Also good additional information about Torosaurus and Triceratops it's pretty interesting
Thank you! The combo is certainly a powerful pairing and I hope for more like it from PNSO. Imagine how awesome it would be to have a hardosaur and baby. Perhaps Maiasaura would be a good candidate!
When I see this figure I'm 100% sure that Torosaurus is no more a controversial genus. Just look at those life-like appearances. Damn, I'm in love... This figure clearly depicts that the Torosaurus is in fact so different, truly unique, and a magnificent beast. And figures like this will rest assured that the Triceratops - Torosaurus controversy will be put to rest. I'm so glad and thankful that there are companies like PNSO who go the extra mile to give their customers what they deserve ( Even though the figures are pricey ). As you said, my dear Sir, now we all are eagerly waiting for PNSO to give us a Chasmosaurine. And I think they will select something controversial like this for their next ceratopsian figure. Maybe they will go with either Pentaceratops or Titanoceratops. Because those two dinosaurs are another controversial ceratopsian duo and PNSO love to lay their hands on stuff like that 😉 Let's see. I enjoyed this well-detailed and educational video so much, my dear Sir. Thank you so much and please keep up the good work as always. Much love to you 🖤
I absolutely hope they will give us a Pentaceratops or Titanoceratops. You certainly your dinosaurs! Yes there would indeed be quite a bit to talk about with these two genera. Those would be such impressive models to have in an array. Though I think they might go with something smaller in the same scale, to spread out the variety as well as the cost customers have to pay so as not to scare them off.
I will definitely try to continue giving you guys content to the best of my ability. PNSO really makes this easy since there is always plenty to say about every aspect, including the science which we both enjoy. Can't wait for their next one, though that will probably be into May due to the lockdown.
Take care over there!
@@DinosDragons Thanks to you my dear sir, I learned a lot and inspired to learn more. And I will continue to do so. Hopefully they will give us another magnificent beast....
Thank you for this review!!! I have a potential video request in the same vein if convenient :)
I'm debating getting a Triceratops, but I was wondering if there's any way that potentially you could do a review on the older 1:35 PNSO Doyle?
I'm having a hard time debating between that one and the newer one, but I know there are still at least some scientific merits to that older one. It seems to be a little bit similar to Dr. Witton's paleoart. I was wondering if there be any way of doing some sort of a video going over the scientific merits of that previous model or inaccuracies? Especially since it seems to represent horridus as opposed to the latest Doyle.
I want to thank you for your content! You make some fantastic videos that actually go to the scientific depth and detail that I always hope dinosaur media would go to!
Thanks so much!!!!
Just put up a quick video. Hope it helps! There is an Aliexpress sale that ends very soon so you might like to take advantage of that. Good luck!
even if amnh 5116 is torosaurus i think new doyle also would fit as a female torosaurus with the more simple brown colors and smaller frill...horns and snout being a result of individual variation as shown at 6:00
I ordered this the moment it became available. This will be the second torosaurus I’ve ever owned in my 28 years, and whilst triceratops is my favourite dino of all time… I’m even more excited for this then I was for the two Doyles.
8-year old me would be so proud my my decision to break the bank to acquire this 😂 stellar review as always!
Thank you! And yikes.... reading your post I completely forgot! I was going to mention that this is only every my second Torosaurus, the only other one being the small CollectA.
You will certainly not be let down by this. In many areas, it is improved from Doyle, and it really has PRESENCE in that bulk and pose. It's on my desk as I'm typing this, and although each new dinosaurs guest stars on my desk for a while before being rotated for the next, I have truly not have anything as impressive as this actually being right in front of me.
@@DinosDragons my only other one was the WWD one that was released t promote the show. Really, really cannot wait to get my own one of these 😄
i want to buy all..but no money yet... huhu
Have to start saving. But I advise getting the more recent ones first. Very old ones by now, will have quite diminished paint apps compared to first run models.
@@DinosDragons yeah thanks u
I don’t think a baby torosaurus has been found according to jack Horner torosaurus is a mature version of triceratops as jack Horner described pretty cool that dinosaurs went though different growth stages as we do plus they are reptiles so they kept growing but in a slow amounts perhaps
Well that theory of Jack Horner has been debunked almost a decade ago.
I'm guessing you didn't watch the full video.
You're right, no Torosaurus baby has been found. But if you watch the full video you'll see why Horner's proposal has been refuted by many counterarguments.
“No one seemed to give a sh%#t…” had me in stitches 😂
Lol I thought it was sad and hilarious at the same time. And I had the perfect Doraemon picture to go with that! 😂