Ranking the First Bosses from the Mario RPGs
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- Опубліковано 26 чер 2024
- I talked about the First Bosses from The Mario and Luigi Series as well as the Paper Mario Series and Ranked them from Worst to Best. If you have a video idea, leave it in the comments below. If I make your idea into a video, you get to hear my thoughts on what you thought of! Don’t forget to subscribe and enjoy the video!
Bosses Counted For this list
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Super Mario RPG: Hammer Bros
Paper Mario 64: Goomba Bros
Paper Mario The Thousand Year Door: Blooper
Super Paper Mario: O Chunks
Paper Mario Sticker Star: Kamek
Paper Mario Color Splash: Morton
Paper Mario The Origami King: Earth Vellumental
Mario and Luigi Superstar Saga: Tolstar
Mario and Luigi Partners in Time: L33T Hammer Bros
Mario and Luigi Bowser's Inside Story: Sea Pipe Statue
Mario and Luigi Dream Team: Smoldergeist
Mario and Luigi Paper Jam: Petey Piranha
Game Footage (If there isn't a link to a game, it's because the footage was recorded by me!)
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Paper Mario Sticker Star: • Mario & Luigi Partners...
Mario and Luigi Partners in Time: • Mario & Luigi Partners...
Mario and Luigi Bowser's Inside Story: • Mario & Luigi Bowser's...
Mario and Luigi Dream Team: • Mario & Luigi Dream Te...
Mario and Luigi Paper Jam: • Mario & Luigi: Paper J...
If you want another video to watch from me, check this one out: • Ranking the Bosses fro...
I always get the question Why do you only talk about these few Mario RPGs, well do you Want me to talk about more Mario RPGs? For each milestone you guys get me to, I talk about a new game.
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Yes I'm back. Idk for how long, but the new releases of the Mario RPG remakes as well as Brothership made me feel like I had to come back at least for a bit. I hope you guys enjoy this video!
Welcome back (:
Rank every single bros attack (superstar saga included only advanced versions and trio attacks as well) in every Mario and Luigi rpg
I MISSED YOU!
Rank the super star saga bros attacks. You have been Skipping over this for a while. You gotta do it sometime.
I said this idea a while ago, but I'll say it again. Rank all Mountain/Volcano areas for all M&L games.
Society if Smoldergeist didn't exist and Dreamy Mario was Dream Team's actual first boss:
So true
Grobot is the first boss outside the dream world. Dreamy Mario is the first boss in the dream world.
Superstar saga bros attacks: “PLEASE JUST RECOGNIZE ME! JUST FREAKING RECOGNIZE ME”
I'll give them attention just this once LOL
Tolstar be like “NOTICE ME SENPAIS”
@@ShroobInvader please just rank them 🙏
A Super Mario RPG boss ranking sounds very interesting considering how many bosses are in that game.
I'm gonna do it eventually, there are SO MANY you are completely right
Correction: Smoldergiest actually has 3 attacks, not 2.
I personally just think the goomba bros is worse then smoldergiest. I consider getting a perfect dodge on them to snuff them and being punished for failing to meet the condition to be more fun than the goomba bros.
I realized that in the footage...whoops! Also that is valid
fun fact: When I was a kid and played BIS, I could not for the life of me get the Inhale mechanic to work in the sea pipe statue fight, so while I beat it, the only way for me to damage it was through counter-attacking during its turn
Thats a very weird way to take it out I won’t lie
@@ShroobInvader i know, but again, I was like 9-10
I’d argue that the goomba king is the first boss fight in paper Mario, the goomba bros are pretty much an enemy encounter but slightly stronger. Same thing with the hammer bros, I never considered that a boss in super Mario rpg. I’d argue a lot of these are just enemies. Great video though, I MISSED YOU
That is debatable and I could see that being it...but ngl it would probably land like only 1 or 2 spots higher, its not much better.
@@ShroobInvaderCould be worse, you could be like boss compilations and count the first Junior Troopa fight. Like no, that’s a tutorial, people.
@@robertlauncher Or take things another step further and count the unwinnable Bowser fight
Honestly goomba king is even worse than goomba bros imo you Just use a hammer once to kill all of the goomba bros and after that you Just jump on 1 target
Bro came back and didn't even acknowledge that he was gone.
Jumped right back into it
I didn't even realize that the hammer bros were supposed to be a boss fight in Super Mario RPG, and completely forgot them after beating them
Welp that says a lot then doesn’t it LOL
It wasn’t showcased here because I think when the attack finished mario’s hp was at 0, but for the petey fight in paper jam when he grabs and eats you he actually keeps you in his belly. I just think it’s interesting the first boss has a move that can temporarily remove a party member from battle and a little funny with how it’s done too. I don’t remember if you have to just wait a turn or two or attack him a certain amount of times to get them out of petey’s belly tho.
Oh my god, it’s been forever since I’ve last checked this channel. You’ve grown so much 😢 I’m so proud of you
I didnt even notice how often in the early game it was tutorial city, i was enthralled with the whole story from the jump and i really like Luigi and the characters, barring Starlow, are super fun!!!
Yeah some of the games sadly do take a bit to get started
He lives!
The mario bros beat up his leader and so he had to leave earth and fly back to his home planet
I’m so glad you’re back, THE BEST MARIO RPG CONTENT CREATOR RETURNS!!!
Even though he barely talks about half of them.
*My thoughts*
12) As a dream Team Fan... I do get why it's the worst. I wish it was better. Though, I feel like Dreamy Mario is also a first boss in its own right.
11) Goomba Bros is part one while Goomba King is part 2 of the boss fight.
10) Hammer Bro Duo (SMRPG) I like this battle. It's a basic boss, but it works. You do have only Mario, which makes sense.
9) Kamek 1 (I think Bowser Junior 1 technically also counts as the first boss)
8) at least he gets harder in later battles.
7) Tolstar is decent
6) yeah... This TTYD boss is disappointing. i wish the blooper was a unique Blooper enemy.
5) L33T Hammer Bros is a tough battle and one I remember struggling.
4) Morton Tough! Morton Strong! Morton MorTons!
3) Origami King above TTYD (I am happy for that.)
2) Petey Piranha has one the eat attack if the bros attack I struggle to dodge.
1) should have been number 2
This boss is actually why I dislike the boss music in this game. I wish the boss music was slightly different for Bowser and it changed during the bros segment of the Bowser boss fights. Original and Remake don't even do that.
You're back, it's been a while. I feel like replaying all M&L games since Brothership is coming out, I honestly can't wait to play the new game.
I can't wait as well!
He's back lets go!!!! im so glad your back
Claymorton shouldve been the first MAIN boss in Super Mario RPG because he guards the first star piece and is a member of the Smithy Gang
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Thanks for keeping it LOL
Good to have you back (;
A lot of these I’d call mid bosses. To me, the first true boss of Mario RPG is Mack, The Goomba King for Paper Mario, Swiggler for Pit, Fracktail for SPM, Megasparkle Goomba for SS, and Dreamy Mario for DT.
The list would be VERY different if those were on the list I will say, well maybe not Mack and the Goomba King, but yeah those would shift the list like crazy
@@ShroobInvader Yeah, for me, counting these bosses, the list would be:
#12: Goomba King
#11: Megasparkle Goomba
#10: Mack
#9: Blooper
#8: Morton
#7: Tolstar
#6: Dreamy Mario
#5: Earth Velumental
#4: Swiggler
#3: Petey Piranha
#2: Sea Pipe Statue
#1: Fracktail
@dimentiorules Fracktail is pretty awesome
Id consider mack more a major boss fight then the first boss fight. I think the crocodile counts as a proper first boss fight. if you dont level enough to let mario learn fireball the croc has a good chance of knocking you out that early in the game.
I was watching ur content while playing bowsers inside story and partners in time and you came back!
❤
Great games to play while I come back nice LOL
You are finally back!
I was thinking Midbus since that's the first boss in BIS. I actually forgot about the Sea Pipe Statue.
Oh Midbus would be very low since it’s basically just a tutorial LOL
@@ShroobInvader ah ok. Also get why Bowser (Paper Mario), Bowser (SS), Bowser (PIT), Baby Bowser & Bowser (BIS) aren't on the list. That's too much Bowser. But, what about Crump, hell, GUS?! I get Gus is optional, but, he can be fought right before Blooper.
@@luxrayblast I think it’s bc Gus doesn’t really need to be fought until Chapter 3 and even then it’s still optional as you can just pay him to pass. Also the battle kinda counts as a tutorial at the beginning of the game bc it teaches you that you can run away without shame in situations where it is very unlikely that you’ll come out victorious
@@FNAFman1983 He has a tattle entry and if you're good at dodging, he's a good first boss.
Good comeback !
glad to see you back dude
AYYYY YOU'RE BACK!
I think I'm in a dream rn
Pinch yourself to check quickly
Hes in a dream team
If you are then don’t fall asleep while in there.
You’ll get sent to the endless Antasma chase sequence
@@derpsdeluxe but what if he finds the correct portal on the first try?
@@derpsdeluxe😬
I wonder how well dream team would of done if the fake mario fight was considered the first real boss fight instead of the poltergist. since that fight doesn't have a tutorial in the middle of it.
I like how he just spedrun the outro
Yeah I don't know what else to say at the end so I just out of there LOL
You being g back with such a banger is crazy, but when a ranking of the most broken bros moves across all games 🔥
Rip to all the partners in time bros items LOL
Look who’s back!
We missed you!
Return of the king
“Well well well look what the cat dragged in” ah comeback
I'm guessing you returned because of brothership got announced
That was the catalyst yeah LOL
Funny thing is I was just thinking about playing the Bowsers inside story remake
You should tbh it's a good game
@@ShroobInvader I played it before but I never beat it. I got stuck on the last Midbus fight because I was under leveled and I didn’t feel like grinding so I just gave up💀. I did beat the Bowser junior side mode though ironically enough. I’ve been meaning to restart the game so I can actually beat it this time
Welcome back Shroob......not an evil shroob but he's back
Yay first video in almost a year
He’s back again! No list this time but based on past lists, you can probably figure out how I feel about each boss.
HE LIVEEEEEES, welcome back dude
It’s nice to see you back:>
And great video too
Thank you :D
YES HE’S BACK! IVE BEEN WAITING SO LONG!
HE’S BACK! I missed you buddy. I was going through your old vids just the other day and it warms my heart you’re back. Good vid btw!
Thank you and I’m glad I’m back!
Thanks for replying! I hardly ever get replies from creators, so this is a shock! Also a weird thing that happens in the comment section is that while scrolling through comments after leaving one, you can find it multiple times. This has happened to me many times and it’s pretty wacky LOL
If the M+R games were here, they'd top the list easily
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The main decider seems to be how early on in the game the first boss actually takes place.
That definitely would be part of it for sure
I think Sea Pipe Statue takes the longest to get to. You have to go through the prologue in Dimble Wood and Peach's Castle, Trash Pit, Cavi Cape, and Plack Beach to get to him.
Will you rank all the paper Mario games?
Eventually yeah
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Welcome back
It feels like most of this ranking is just backhanded compliments
Yeah…when dealing with these first bosses, that’s gonna happen with how basic they are
Let’s go we back
he’s back!
Great to see you back. I was wondering where you've been. Here are my thoughts on this list:
Smoldergeist (DT) - I'm honestly surprised this landed at the very bottom. Like, yes, if you fail dodges, you may have to spend a turn jumping to extinguish the fire, but I actually always thought that was a clever way to reward dodging. Plus, you only take 1 damage from doing so, which is barely anything, even at the start of the game. Also, the fact that you can prevent extinguished Smoldergeists from reigniting if you attack them adds a bit of strategy, as you can choose to either focus down one of them, but have the others reignite, or split your damage between two to prevent both of them from reigniting. It's not a super interesting fight otherwise, but I definitely don't think it's the worst. Also, knocking it this hard for the tutorial seems a bit excessive to me. Like, you can very easily skip it and it doesn't even take very long.
Goomba Bros (PM64) - Yeah, this one is pretty lame. Paper Mario's Prologue in general kind of sucks gameplay-wise due to the lack of action commands. This is probably what I would've put at the bottom.
Hammer Bros (SMRPG) - I've only played the SMRPG remake once as of now, so I feel I can't say a whole lot about this one. Your reasoning for its placement makes sense.
Kamek (PMSS) - Not much to say here either. I agree with the points you made.
O' Chunks (SPM) - I do like how this fight encourages you to use Thoreau, as it's the pixl you just got (although I think it's pretty lame that Thoreau still cheeses all the later O' Chunks fights).
Tolstar (M&LSS) - A typical first boss. It works fine enough but isn't as interesting as some others. Your placement makes sense.
Blooper (TTYD) - Pretty much the same situation as Tolstar. A first boss that works fine but isn't super interesting.
Leet Hammer Broz (PiT) - I like this one. Yeah, Fire Flower can pretty easily incapacitate them, but you do have to get kind of lucky for that to happen. Plus, if only one is burned, the other starts using the more difficult hammer throwing attack, so it does come with some risk. Still not super interesting, but almost no first boss is.
Morton (CS) - I think you made some good points here. However, I'm just not a big fan of the "use this specific thing card or die" system that CS uses. and yeah, the fact that he only does 1 damage after the thing is used is pretty lame. Like, he's still got his shell attack, why not use that, Morton?
Earth Vellumental (TOK) - I haven't played TOK, so I have no comments about this boss. I will say, the fact that you knocked Smoldergeist hard for an optional tutorial, when you knocked this less for a mandatory tutorial is a bit odd to me.
Petey Piranha (PJ) - Paper Jam has great boss fights, even at the start of the game. Enough said. Also, I feel the tutorial is warranted because the Paper Plane Guard is a completely new concept to the series. I guess it would be nice if it was skippable, though.
Sea Pipe Statue (BIS) - I definitely agree with your top two picks, but I would probably swap them. While I really like how this one introduces the idea of Bowser's inhalation, which is very important for later fights, and does test most of your abilities (Not jump defense; the Stone Blooper doesn't have any attacks that requires you to dodge by jumping), it doesn't have the same level of variety as Petey Piranha. The Statue itself has only one attack, and the Stone Blooper only has three, one of which only happens after enraging it enough, and another that is unavoidable. Since I feel the Mario & Luigi builds its entire battle system around dodging, I can't say I'm a big fan of unavoidable attacks, but at least you can still win without inhalation if you really want to avoid that forced damage, I suppose. Ultimately though, even if I wouldn't put this at #1, it's a very solid #2 for me.
Great write ups!
Yo holy shit he returned!
Your back anyway good video😊
Yay! Was excited seeing this upload, welcome back!
Honestly I agree with a lot of these takes though I actually completely forgot about Smoldergeist. I genuinely thought Dreamy Mario was the first boss lol. I think the fight is ok but it’s a bit of a weird choice for a first boss. I think the gimmick of dodging successfully to be able to attack would be really cool if it was just a bit later on in the game, especially since your options are so restricted this early. Personally Paper Jam Petey is my favorite gameplay-wise. All the different attacks you mentioned really keep it interesting for an early-game fight!
Good takes I agree!
Glad to see you back. Any chance for a Paper Mario 64 boss ranking? I’ve been dying for it!
I’m definitely doing it soon, it was harder for me to do it because of the surprising amount and me only playing it once so far
Bros back 🗣️🔥🔥🔥
interestingly, Smoldergeist in a nerve mode challenge w/no healing, no equips/Badges and no bros/Luiginary attacks
(cept the fact you're required to get the +1 Badge Effect Stock for both bros at level 8 for the Massifs.)
and only +1 level per area arc(essentially +2 levels, 1 level per boss, due to there usually being 2 separate bosses for each part of an area.)
Smoldergeist actually becomes.. kind of a threat but barely. yet dat 18 damage's no joke. with these conditions, since it does about 18 damage via its Fire Ring/Single Fireball toss on hard, enough to 2 shot or 1 shot both bros, if you took damage prior to the fight, w/being unable to heal, except for the optional tutorial heal. 🤔
I think is interesting that it punishes you for not dodging via them being lit up, forcing you to take damage or wait.
its actually a neat concept that deff would've been slightly more deadly,
if it weren't for the fact you can't die to jumping on spiked/flame enemies in Dream Team-
I can deff confirm that Torkscrew's by far most deff the 1st true brick wall in Dream Team in a nerve mode/low-level no-equips and no bros attacks challenge,
and thats only due to its underground Drill attack that Intentionally goes slower, on top of it having a massive 656 hp that early 💀
THE GOAT HAS RETURNED!!
SHROOB IS BACK!!!
Hes back!
But at what cost…
My free time is now shrunk because I must make videos, BUT I MUST DO IT!
We've been going through some hectic times and it just so happens that my schedule started loosening up a whole lot too. What do you think? Should we finish what we started?
I think we should eventually tbh
You're back ! Finally !! This is probably the perfect time to come back , now that nintendo spamms out these Games like the New Super Mario bros games
Welcome back also no list but my fave first boss is tolstar because he’s funny and to the point. Idrc that he’s easy, it’s a first boss also I beat superstar saga and bowser’s minions again
You should make a 2nd boss list
That would be interesting
@@ShroobInvader Here would be a boss list
RPG Croco (1)
Superstar Saga Hoohooros
Partners In Time Swiggler
Bowsers Inside Story Scutlet
Dream Team Dreamy Mario
Paper Jam Big Pokey Duo
64 Koopa Bros
TTYD I am not sure what would be wanted Gold Fuzzy or Red Bones or Hooktail the reason is Hooktail is the only one that is not just a stronger regular enemy that dies in 2 turns.
Super Fracktail
Sticker Star Big Buzzy Bettle
Color Splash Big Spiny
Origami King Colored Pencils
ITS BEEN 3000 YEARS
Did Mario & Luigi make you come back? Either way, I’m happy to see you make videos again.
FINALLY THE GOD IS BACK
The return of the king
Thank you so much 🫡 and I’m glad to be back!
@ShroobInvader No problem man! Love your content, can't wait for Brothership!!
HE'S ALIVE
It's great to have you back. Also btw I would personally have dreamy mario on the list instead of smoldergiest. I don't consider smoldergeist a boss even. If you had dreamy mario instead of smoldergeist on the list. where would you place it
It would be like top 5 probably? It's definitely a good boss
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Fun fact: You can refight Smoldergeist whenever you want by replaying the tutorial
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Oh hi! Haven't seen you in a while ^^
The shroob has returned!
Yay hes back
This was such a jumpscare lmfao
You should make a ranking of penultimate bosses or bosses before the final boss ranking
That would be interesting tbh
smoldergeist isn’t really considered a boss fight its just a fight with normal enemies, the real first boss of dream team is Grobot
I don't even agree with the 2nd part of the statement tbh. If people do not consider Smoldergeist to be the first boss, it HAS to be Dreamy Mario then. Grobot is way too late into the game at that point and while yes it is definitely a more normal boss, Dreamy Mario is definitely a boss before that
@@ShroobInvader ah yes, how could i forget dreamy mario
Yippie he back and really waiting for brothership
Oh hey your back. I was just thinking a few days ago that youd left youtube until brothership
Yeah the game made me felt obligated to come back I won’t lie LOL
If you don't mind me asking, why did you leave and are you planning on staying long term or is this just temporary?
Not sure yet, and honestly just burnout 💀
Welcome back! (For the second/third time)
Shhh...yeah I've left and came back a lot of times don't remind me LOL
@@ShroobInvader when’s the next one?
THE REDEMPTION OF SHROOB INVADER
You should do the final bosses next
We're still waiting for starlows explaination on the wind.
Yeah idk how the heck she is even able to summon it but uh...hey I'll take it LOL
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Let have final bossed in rpg next
Good idea. I’m doing that. That’s my idea now I’m stealing that LOL
@@ShroobInvader give me credit 😤
For paper mario 64 Goomba king is the real first boss not just the goomba bros
I responded to someone else who said this, if the Goomba King was on this list, it would rank barely higher and it has the same problems that the Goomba Bros has.
13:25 there is one thing kinda cool about this attack, it's knockback bros from superstar Saga
That is true actually I didn’t realize that, it doesn’t make it better but it’s kinda neat
@@ShroobInvader makes sencwe, i'm kinda bias because i'm a sucker for refrences and throwbacks like this,
good thing the enemis in super start saga didn't know how to jump
@@ShroobInvader and here's an idea they could of done to add a second attack for Leet hammer bros, Dunk bros!
how it'd work is one hammer bro would dunk the other and the dunked bro goes under one of the babies and when the light on their antenna lights uop, you jump to counter the attack as the hammer bro comes up and takes damage as you land on him, could even re-dunk them in the process and they go back to their position while dunked
I will correct you, Sticker Star's first boss is the Bowser Jr. fight.
Only way to defeat Jr. is by using the scissors, which the Toad just gave you.
Worse than the Goomba Bros.
I count that as a kind of tutorial boss to be honest. I would probably have it second to last but yes it would be worse than the goomba bros I agree.
ngl the hammer bros are essentially just "power up Jump simulator."
I have a weird relationship with RPGs and by that I mean Mario RPGs because they are the only RPGs I have ever played. Basically I don’t like battling unless it’s an important battle. Like I love the boss battles, but I hate fighting just normal enemies on the overworld and what not and I hate having to grind. Like I just want to continue the story I don’t wanna have to level up 500 times before I can. Honestly me not liking normal battles in RPGs is probably the reason I like paper Mario color splash so much. For a lot of people the battle system ruins the game for them, but I don’t care about the battle system at all. I never want to fight normal enemies in any RPG so it makes no difference to me. Color splash does have a bad battle system but it just doesn’t affect me since I just don’t care💀
Honestly that's valid because I think that the levels are very good in that game so if your opinion on the battle system doesn't matter, then the bad stuff gets overshadowed.
@@ShroobInvader definitely. I absolutely love color splash. Also it’s good to see you making videos again
isnt mario & luigi dream team bros's first boss the big evil nightmare bat?
You’re BACK sorry I couldn’t make it
This wasn’t a premiere so I would be shocked if you could make it LOL
Oh