Sette 270 vs Eureka Mignon | CR Comparison
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- Опубліковано 24 вер 2024
- We compared the Baratza Sette 270 with the Eureka Mignon grinder. Both have adjustable timing and quality burr grinders. Which is best for the way you brew? Watch and find out!
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IMO comparing retention must be a staple in the grinder comparisons.
Finally sold my Baratza Sette as it woke everyone up in the morning when making my coffee.
Went for a Mignon Specialita and it’s a lot quieter and the family is much happier.
Do you notice any difference in quality/taste in the shots being pulled?
@@KennethGoldbergkglegalI have both. Honestly they’re identical. Retention is better on the sette, Mignon is quieter. Clarity body etc is basically exactly the same, only the snobbiest of snobs will notice a difference and even then, it’s small.
Sette 270 is very easy to repair, components do fail regularly (easy to source however)
Mignon is built to last and will definitely last.
Can’t go wrong with either one, quality of the shot is pretty darn identical depends if you like loud vs quiet and less vs more retention. I got bellows for my eureka so basically has no retention.
I use the Mignon as my girlfriend likes the look in our kitchen and it’s quiet, if it was me though I’d be using the 270 as it grinds slightly faster and I like the tactile sound it makes. I’m a mechanical guy.
Real winner is whatever one costs you less
It's not mentioned, but on the sette, the burrs have shims that can be added or removed to go even finer/coarser, and baratza sells another set of burrs for coarser grinds as well
I have the WI and use it several times a day, with no issues. I like the weighted doses, it saves me a step and it grinds fast. The fine tuning for espresso is excellent. The noise is an overblown non-issue.
Have you had any reliability issues with the sette?
The chute in the Mignon clogs up easily and leaves a lot of coffee behind. The Sette is faster and is nearly zero coffee retention.
I've bought a Baratza and I'm very happy with it
Sette is clearly more modern grinder with a couple of big advantages.
First off: grind quality: as mentioned: Sette is very consistent in its somewhat limited range. Moreover, it produces nice, fluffy grind with no clogs, which is immensely helpful as far as coffee distribution is concerned.
Secondly, Sette has almost zero grind retention (around 0.1 g). This is huge for using in home environment: no stale coffee leftover, quick and easy switching between different coffee beans, no wasted coffee.
Sette seems to be almost perfect all around grinder for various brewing methods at home. What really helps it is the two-step grind size adjustment. You can set coarse number for espresso and then tune it right with micro-stepless regulation. Then when you want to get yourself a cup of pour-over coffee, use simply change only the macro step (and you can always simply go back to an espresso range). This regulation seems to the best of both worlds: easy reference position of a stepped regulation and fine tuning of a stepless grinder. This combined with no grind retention means that you can go back and forth between pour-over coffee and espresso with relative ease.
Well put!
Agreed. I think the Sette sets a new standard when it comes to what you get for what you pay for home grinders. The only two slight advantages I see in the Eureka are 1) smaller footprint and 2) stepless adjustment. BTW, as for going back and forth with the settings, my experience is that it isn't really practical. I purchased a Vario (also has independent coarse/fine adjustments) a couple of years ago with that goal in mind and I ended up buying a second grinder for pour-over and use the Vario for espresso only and it remains dialed-in for the coffee I have at the moment. The main reason is that when you go from coarse to fine, you should do it with the grinder running _and_ with beans in the hopper. So every time I did that, I wasted at least a few grams of precious coffee. Also, when you go back, you're not really guaranteed to get the same thing: the distances between burrs we're talking about are so tiny on an espresso range that when you go back, even a 10th of a mm makes a difference.
TheSucread but sette will wake up each and everyone! 😂
love that eureka
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The mignon looks like the world's prettiest gumball machine. I love it.
exactly, it is a beautiful thing. I got chrome, but all of the colors were hard to pass up.
@@dthorne4602 I ended up buying a black and chrome myself
I love that looks!
Would be helpful if these reviews could show the burrs, how to remove, clean, etc.
I've bought the Sette a couple of weeks ago and it's going back. It's not that loud. The reason for returning it is that it is not consistent. Sometimes it is right on, or almost (within .2 or .3 g), and other times it stops 2 or 3 g short, and switching to manual is a pain. Also, it is very messy. even with low static, getting more than 18g in the portafilter makes a huge mess around the counter. Not ideal.
i got the mignon and its quite messy too
When I bought the Sette , it was a disappointing experience. The craziest thing that happened was that I looked at the control panel and it looked like it had protective film over the words. It took me a while to get the edge to come up, then I started pulling it off and discovered that the words were a sticker. I immediately pushed it back down. Super cheesy quality. My burrs had rough edges and metal shavings fell out of the unit when I opened it up and turned it upside down. I had one of the first ones, so maybe they were really rushing to get it to market - I remember that market pressure was building at the time. I returned the thing to Amazon the next day and bought the Eureka. The Mignon is a bargain in comparison.
what has better taste what is easier to clean what is easier to repair/ durability
you never tell us the inportant things who cares
about side by side grind
I love my Eureka Mignon Notte. I calibrated the 50mm burrs to nearly dead on using aluminum foil shims and a dry marker per instructions I found in a UA-cam video that works for all burr grinders regardless of burr size. I removed the filter holder and bought a 55mm, heavy-duty, Rhino Coffee Gear stainless steel dosing cup. I rolled an o-ring over the top of the dosing cup to prevent coffee flying all over after I put the 55.6mm naked portafilter upside down over it (shake to eliminate lumps in the coffee, see below). I also bought a printed, single-dose hopper. (Why would anyone leave their coffee exposed to air and light at home until they use it?) I weigh the beans, grind them into the dosing cup, put my mouth over the single dose hopper after the beans are ground, and give a sharp two puffs to expel all the retained coffee. (The moisture in my breath seems to eliminate static.) I turn the portafilter upside down over the dosing cup and shake vigorously 3 or four times. Flip over the portafilter, level and tamp. No channeling, and excellent results 95%+ of the time.
Sette grinds look less clumpy
Eureka MIGNON Good or bratz setta 270 good ???
PLEASE DO AN UODATED REVIEW ON THESE TWO 🎉
I’m about to order a Sette 270. For those of you who own one, a question: what is your current coarse/fine setting for your espresso grind? I’ll be using a typical blend, and I’m imagining that such a roast blend should typically utilize a similar setting for most folks. I want to start from a good place, so I don’t need to waste too much coffee dialing it in. So let’s see your Sette settings!
I range between 5C to 6A on mine for a variety of beans and paired with a GCP.
Recently just modded to 9bar and I've had to grind finer to 4A
I use 1 shim, for my E&B Labs 12/14 basket i do 7C, for my VST 15 basket, 8C, all depends on basket and amount of holes in there, more holes comes out faster, less holes, comes out not as fast so you adjust to that
I never got the Sette. instead I got the Urbanic 070s. Great deal, great grinder. A couple retention issues, but those can be ameliorated.
is the Sette 270 good for french press?
Hoping the build quality on the Sette is good for a long and productive life. Everything else looks great. Hoping to see these in AU soon. Would be good to see if Baratza work on a commercial version and add sound deadening.
would love to see you compare niche zero vs eureka mignon specialita
I use the EM mainly for espresso grinds on the rocket machine and it does a great job. Quiet and fast for my home use. U can really dial in how fine u want the grinds. Easy to clean but if u use grindz as recommended by scg it will clog unless u add it in 1 or 2 corns at a time
The Mignon Speacialita is quieter and has an anti clump technology, should be superior to the Sette
can you tell me about the anti clump tech? looking at 6:33 in this vid it isn't very good. The Sette grinds look much nicer on the bench (not very scientific sure... but still).
LukusGamer the specialita is a different model by the same manufacturer.
@LukusGamer it is basically a very fine metal mesh screen that sits right above the chute. What it does is actually create a very nice static which in turn separates the grinds to a more uniform looking puck.
Really, a fantastic grinder, I have mine turned on 24/7 for the past two years, absolutely phenomenal grinder. So uniform with light roasts it's incredible really.
@@rotemshoshani424 the silenzio model has that too and its cheaper than the specialita
@@Cimone90 Specialita has 55mm burrs all the other Mignons have 50mm
I find my Sette to be a bit messy when grinding directly into my portafilter (static issues), but that could be a result of dry conditions with the furnace on. otherwise, especially when grinding for drip, it's fantastically consistent
Agreed on the consistency!
I'm thinking to replace my rocky, which one can grind finer, sette or rocky?
Hi Bheros, I know it has been a while since your comment post. Did you find the Eureka or Baratza better than your previous Rancilio Rocky grinder? I was just comparing these three grinders. Thanks
@@asfentantono Oh wow, it’s been 5 yrs already and I’m still using my rocky LMAO 😂😂😂
I don't have the answer but I would recommend getting stepless grinder if you are doing espresso.
Can't really fine tune with rocky.
@@Bheros LOL Thanks for getting back to me after 5 years. Have purchased the Eureka Mignon Crono. Works really well. Yea I went with stepless. 20gr beans went in and 20gr ground coffee came out. Pretty happy with it.
The new Sette 270 grinders from early 2018 are quieter. Baratza has made some tweaks.
is that eureka mignon manuale
Sette seems to be less clumpy.
How are the grinds retention for the Mignon? Would it be good as a single dosage grinder?
Mignon retention is pretty decent, and is a good all-purpose grinder. You may like the Baratza Sette 270 even better for lower retention and single dosing
seems like the latest comparison shows the mignon clumpy grounds... are these an issue to the taste ?
No, I've had mine for 3 years and it is great. The clumpiness is really a visual thing, any tamping you do is above and beyond any tension in the "clumps". It's an excellent grinder for the money.
How about build quality between these two? ithe mignon looks like it can last longer and has "less stuff to break", clumping is a huge advantage on the sette, but it is useless if it breaks after one year of use
I've had both and returned the Sette, no camparison in build quality : Mignon is a BMW to the Sette's Hyundai
Not a good comparison as I have the latter which came with a 7 year warranty, less expensive in parts and cheaper to run plus longevity. How's 35 years, 400k and still running?
love your style, seen a few of your vids now. Thanks for the vid. and subbed too. ty
Wow, is the Sette really that much louder than the Mignon?
yes. I bought a Sette and returned it, quality control issues, quite loud, really big, very plasticky, I had waited months for it and was really really disappointed with the thing. I tried again with the Mignon instead and it is beautifully made and works great, the only negative is it can make a little bit of a mess with grounds on your counter which you need to keep on top of. It is simple and elegant and very stoutly built - I got the chrome version and the chrome is really lustrous and nice.
d thorne did you notice any quality difference between the two?
@@LandsoulFFXI Build quality of Eureka is world class, sette cheap plastic and rough metal burrs, the sette is made in leichtenstein I think I remember
@Frank Rubi I use the mignon every day, it is fantastic, it is consistent, it is the only sub $600 grinder I'd buy. The only quibbles I have with it are: #1- it tends to eject grounds hard enough that you sometimes make a bit of a mess on the counter that you have to keep up with. #2 - taking a full hopper off if you want to change beans always leads to dropping a few beans on the counter. Otherwise I'd give this purchase an "A" as one of the best bang for the buck purchases I've made in the past few years. Another bonus for me is that it is very small and takes up very little counter space. It is very nice looking and is available in a bunch of sweet colors - but I went with chrome and the finish is very deep and glossy, feels llke a thick finish rather than thin and cheap.
@@dthorne4602 ended up going with the specialita because of the praised build quality. A lot of people seem to have issues with the settle breaking down I dont want to wait weeks for repairs and no grinder.
I have the mignon. I was going to buy the Sette but the shop people (Coffee Parts in Sydney) convinced me to get the Mignon on quality of grind.
I am not that happy with it. The issues I have:
1. Poor adjustment of both the grind and the timer. The graduation is so rough, it's a guessing game.
2. It's messy. Grounds fly everywhere. I made a little plastic extension to chute to reduce the problem, but only partially successful.
I hardly use it. I use Breville Smart most of the time - not the best grind but easy and accurate adjustment. .
What’s the model of eureka mignon?
This one is an Instantaneo. I know cuz I have the exact same one.
i'm curious about Eureka Mignon and Compak k3 touch for small coffee shop purpose (espresso)... any suggestion ? thanks
I' d go with Compak
As a Mignon owner, the only real advantage I feel like the Sette has over the Mignon in terms of brewing would be the lack of clumping. I normally have to redistribute grinds from the Mignon using a needle as it doesn't come out as fluffy as the Sette seems to output.
Mr Juitman what’s the grind retention in Mignon
I wouldn't worry about the clumping, it doesn't effect anything - you will be tamping at an exponentially higher tension than any clumping could ever be, it's really a grinder myth that clumping matters - put down the needle, I did and it's fine:)
Do you recommend for espresso without pressurized basket?
I think I'll get get a mignon
The Sette looks nice but it is a piece of garbage. I looked at it in a store, read reviews etc. The electronics of the Sette operate inconsistent. The whole thing is plastic. The Eureka is much simpler and therefore less things can break.
oliver Lison I was really knee on settle, then I tested in my friend’s . I realized either that one was a faulty one, or this machine is hard to produce fine ground to pull espresso .
Need more space to buy more grinders!
We have the same problem...
@@SeattleCoffeeGear My flatmate has sprayed cleaned it with white vinegar and now it won't start.
The switch ON light works perfectly, but once you press it won't grind, totally dead. It did though switch on the other day, but only for a short time and now its dead again... Please if you see this comment can you reply what could be the problem.
Where's the Sette vs Vario comparison?!?!
We removed it! Updating and will upload soon
The Sette seems to produce much less clumping
Yes, much less
It does, but clumping doesn't have any actual effect on the brewing since you will be tamping the grinds down under pressure.
@@dthorne4602 I believe clumps do make a difference. Generally the Eureka grinders are nice and clump free, not sure what's going on with this one, or maybe this model doesn't have the anti-clump technology in the other models they have.
@@BensCoffeeRants the "tension" in a clump is so minimal that once the grounds are tamped, any semblance of clump separation will be broken. It's more about physics than anything else.
@@dthorne4602 I don't know the science behind it but I've noticed channeling due to clumps and many people have reported the same and improved results using methods to stir and break up clumps or by shaking up the grinds in a dosing cup.
Which grind-setting would you recommend for the AeroPress and Chemex with the Sette 270? Greets
We would experiment with the coarser end of the settings, although in our testing we have had some clogging issues when using paper filters. Baratza is working on a second burr better suited for the coarser range, which we hope will be released soon.
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My Eureka Mignon did not last for 1 week after purchase. It did not rotate or when it did, it did not dispense beans. One of the worst things I've seen in my life. Very bad manufacturing. I will return it immediately. Baratza is a clear winner.
That's just unfortunate... sorry to hear that. Mine will be delivered tomorrow - wish me luck. :/
More people seem to have issues with Sette, but sounds like you got a lemon, Could happen with any product..
The internet is full of Sette breakdown stories. Get a new or used k-3, will grind for more than a lifetime...
Martin Der should i just Google k-3 ? Is that the name of the model?
Mignon looked clumpy
The newer Mignons do not have that issue. I have an older Mignon; with a proper tamping technique, the clumping is a non-issue.
I've experimented a lot with the Mignon using a naked portafilter. Visible clumping has no effect on brewing at all. I used a toothpick to stir the grounds to remove clumps as the control cup - no difference at all - the clmping isn't some kind of tightly packed thing, tamping pressure is a pressure that overrides whatever "pressure" the clump is held together by - it's an old coffee brewing myth.
quite useless... more a kinda marketing presentation: it doesn't matter which of both you buy, but buy them at Seattle coffee greed;-)
Which one is more suitable for turkish coffee ?
no pain no gain sette
Any REAL QUALITY device that is something you use for many many years for top1 stuff in your daily life and even can be a heirloom for multiple generations, needs a review on MAINTENANCE !
That you US 'throw it away" peeps don't get this, is one of the many reasons why you are NOT the greatest country on earth, and will not be for many years to come.
Both can be serviced by the customer, baratza & eureka have good parts support & videos. From USA with love 🤣 🇺🇸