Tried today after following some top reviews. I tried the latest 1080 before and didn’t like how mushy it felt. This shoe was to my surprise close to perfect, a nice feeling of stability with just the right amount of mushiness… That red line is a plate which is doing wonders to the overall shoe feel. It felt also superb to walk… I am trying currently many shoes and this one doesn’t feel like I am walking on a giant marshmallow. Will try some others shoes but this one is a winner. Note: I don’t need stability or very little of it. Will use for light run/tempo and walking.
@@RoadTrailRunI have the Nimbus 26, 880, and 1080. However, I really enjoy the light stability in this shoe and as of now, I like it more than the 880v14.
Deciding between the 860 and 880. Really enjoyed the Prism v1. Also liked the Beacon v1 (had a nice heel counter and liked the rocker). Love mild stability shoes. Wear orthotics. Hearing this 860 is super soft and to consider 880. Foot is a medium width, but on narrower side. Which one to go with?
@@RoadTrailRunthanks for the info. I'm seeing some reviews that are really canning the 880. Not sure what that is. It's sounding like the fit would be better on the 880. I did try the Vongo, and it's the first shoe I've ever worn where it actually forces my foot into pronation. I'd love to hear more about what you guys think about that EVA film that's being used for stability. Most of my friends who work in technical running shoe stores say that the 860 is very mushy.
@@melindareiner9908 did you appreciate the vongo 6 forcing your foot into (under?)pronation? You are a mild overpronator? Sometimes in neutral shoes I feel like I want to correct myself from flat footedness/overpronation and angle my feet laterally to correct this myself when walking. I am thinking I will try the 860 and the vongo as they both are said to push you a little into underpronation (guide you laterally). Not sure if I want the shoe to do it yet or for me to do it consciously. Though when walking any distances it is too much effort to consciously do it each step.
Can tell you know your stuff based on some things you mentioned in the video. I agree w what you said as well and liked the feel of the 860 V14 a lot as an all day any day shoe for neutral to slight pronate.
Thanks! Sorry for the late reply. I much prefer the Prima. More consistent feeling underfoot, denser but more energetic foam. I also like that the light stability element is concentrated at the ground rather than further up.
Never tested unfortunately but here is some detail of the differences from our written 860 v14 review: "We have not tested the Vongo. It is a bit heavier as it is more shoe in terms of cushion stack. It has the same heel height as the 860 but with 2mm more upfront cushion as 6mm drop shoe.The Stability Plane is full length on both sides of the shoe unlike the 860's which is partial on the lateral side." www.roadtrailrun.com/2024/06/new-balance-fresh-foam-x-860-v14-multi.html
The top layer is softer, the lower layer is about the same. Remember that there is also the Stability Plane plate in the mix which along with the more (than 880v14) vertical medial side walls provides the difference in stability, That said the stability is more mellow in feel anyway than a traditional posted shoe.
Maybe a touch softer than 1080 v11 but helped by stability plane for sure. I too found v13 overly soft and mushy. Not so in 860. Also if you are looking for a firmer Fresh Foam feel look at latest 880 v14. No plate and a bit firmer foam . Our review here: www.roadtrailrun.com/2024/03/new-balance-fresh-foam-x-880-v14-review.html
Very disappointed in the heel drop from 10 to 8mm. People who suffer from plantar fasciitis and who need very strong stability are getting increasingly limited choices. Guess its Brooks Beast for me.
1080 very soft not very stable and I find mushy in comparison. 880 is firmer than 860. I think 860 a nice balance even for under pronation although for sure not neutral
I have been wearing New Balance shoes for years. Lately those shoes are made in Vietnam to save costs. Unfortunately the quality is not the same as before! Very disappointed!!!
This update made a great stability shoe basically a neutral shoe with minimal arch support.
Oh no !
Love the comparisons to other shoes. Thanks!
Good morning. Excellent description. Like to RoadTrailRun. Have a great day.
Tried today after following some top reviews. I tried the latest 1080 before and didn’t like how mushy it felt.
This shoe was to my surprise close to perfect, a nice feeling of stability with just the right amount of mushiness…
That red line is a plate which is doing wonders to the overall shoe feel. It felt also superb to walk…
I am trying currently many shoes and this one doesn’t feel like I am walking on a giant marshmallow.
Will try some others shoes but this one is a winner.
Note: I don’t need stability or very little of it. Will use for light run/tempo and walking.
Got this a few days ago. Love it!
Great! What have you been running in?
@@RoadTrailRunI have the Nimbus 26, 880, and 1080. However, I really enjoy the light stability in this shoe and as of now, I like it more than the 880v14.
Compared to all you mention I prefer 860 v14 as well
Heal well Sam!!
Deciding between the 860 and 880. Really enjoyed the Prism v1. Also liked the Beacon v1 (had a nice heel counter and liked the rocker). Love mild stability shoes. Wear orthotics. Hearing this 860 is super soft and to consider 880. Foot is a medium width, but on narrower side. Which one to go with?
Either 880 or Noosa Tri 16.
@@RoadTrailRunthanks for the info. I'm seeing some reviews that are really canning the 880. Not sure what that is. It's sounding like the fit would be better on the 880. I did try the Vongo, and it's the first shoe I've ever worn where it actually forces my foot into pronation. I'd love to hear more about what you guys think about that EVA film that's being used for stability. Most of my friends who work in technical running shoe stores say that the 860 is very mushy.
@@melindareiner9908 did you appreciate the vongo 6 forcing your foot into (under?)pronation? You are a mild overpronator? Sometimes in neutral shoes I feel like I want to correct myself from flat footedness/overpronation and angle my feet laterally to correct this myself when walking. I am thinking I will try the 860 and the vongo as they both are said to push you a little into underpronation (guide you laterally). Not sure if I want the shoe to do it yet or for me to do it consciously. Though when walking any distances it is too much effort to consciously do it each step.
I'm curious how it compares to the Saucony hurricane 24
Great review
@@BlackNAVYAmericanVET Thanks! Much appreciated! Hope you will subscribe to our channel
Can tell you know your stuff based on some things you mentioned in the video. I agree w what you said as well and liked the feel of the 860 V14 a lot as an all day any day shoe for neutral to slight pronate.
great review
Thanks! Much appreciated!
Wouldn't better comparable be other moderate stability shoes? Such as the GT2000 12 instead of the Kayano?
Yes that would have been a good comparison but my last GT 2000 was the 10
Hi great review, how would this compare to the supernova prima in terms of ride? Thanks
Thanks! Sorry for the late reply. I much prefer the Prima. More consistent feeling underfoot, denser but more energetic foam. I also like that the light stability element is concentrated at the ground rather than further up.
@@RoadTrailRun thankyou, been enjoying the noosa 16 and wanted something to complement that to use as a daily. Thanks again 🇬🇧 👍
Wish Vongo v6 was in the comparison... Would love to know how these 2 stability shoes differ.
Never tested unfortunately but here is some detail of the differences from our written 860 v14 review:
"We have not tested the Vongo. It is a bit heavier as it is more shoe in terms of cushion stack. It has the same heel height as the 860 but with 2mm more upfront cushion as 6mm drop shoe.The Stability Plane is full length on both sides of the shoe unlike the 860's which is partial on the lateral side." www.roadtrailrun.com/2024/06/new-balance-fresh-foam-x-860-v14-multi.html
Is this one as soft as the nb 880 v14? Love that one but actually I need more stability I think
The top layer is softer, the lower layer is about the same. Remember that there is also the Stability Plane plate in the mix which along with the more (than 880v14) vertical medial side walls provides the difference in stability, That said the stability is more mellow in feel anyway than a traditional posted shoe.
I wonder where does the Vongo6 fit in their lineup? Which one is better?
Haven’t tested latest Vongo but it shares Stability Plane with v14. It is heavier, higher stacked with a 6mm drop vs 8mm and at $165 more expensive.
Could you put orthotics in this since there is no medial post?
I think yes assuming enough volume
@@RoadTrailRun thanks!
How stiff is the rocker? Anything like the kayano 30/31?
Not nearly as stiff. More a flex based shoe
@@RoadTrailRun thanks!
How does the midsole compare to the 1080 V11? I read the 1080 V13 is quite soft, maybe these are a nice successor for the V11
Thx.
Maybe a touch softer than 1080 v11 but helped by stability plane for sure. I too found v13 overly soft and mushy. Not so in 860. Also if you are looking for a firmer Fresh Foam feel look at latest 880 v14. No plate and a bit firmer foam . Our review here: www.roadtrailrun.com/2024/03/new-balance-fresh-foam-x-880-v14-review.html
@@RoadTrailRunhow is it compared to 860v13? 860v13 is soft imo, is v14 softer?
Which do you think would be better for a heavier person? This or the 880v14
If you have higher volume foot 860 although wides are also available in 880. For weight despite being softer I still think 860 is potentially better
which has better breathability? 860 or 880 v14?
About the same relatively thick uppers
Innovation…killing stability in traditional stability shoes. 🤦♂️
Kayano 30 vs 860 v14 for walking all day comfort?
Both good. Kayano 30 more cushioned and harder to move along, 860v14 more nimble less bulky
@@RoadTrailRun Thanks. What about Saucony Tempus vs 860v14 for walking/standing on feet for 8 hours a day/20ksteps
How soft is it compared to 860v13?
Sorry never ran v13 but I think it is softer now.
Very disappointed in the heel drop from 10 to 8mm. People who suffer from plantar fasciitis and who need very strong stability are getting increasingly limited choices. Guess its Brooks Beast for me.
Saucony hurricane 24 could be worth considering
If I have underpronation should I rather go with the 1080?
1080 very soft not very stable and I find mushy in comparison. 880 is firmer than 860. I think 860 a nice balance even for under pronation although for sure not neutral
I have been wearing New Balance shoes for years. Lately those shoes are made in Vietnam to save costs. Unfortunately the quality is not the same as before! Very disappointed!!!