I've literally never heard of this game till the other day and now, after watching Narc's video, YT decided to send me a daily video about this whole controversy about it. It looks freakin cool tbh, I'm hoping that it eventually gets released.. good video btw, pretty funny and down to earth.
I commented on Narc's channel a lot. He never really wrapped his head around the Agile process and that this wasn't a traditional Alpha2 test. At this stage we are more like guinea pigs, or rats in a maze, than critics.
Lol your dry humor is awesome and i spent the 250 and am loving this game already, even though it has a long path ahead. Count me in as a subscriber to you man.
I think the most important aspect about all this is the Alpha previews from all throughout the last 2 years that show something which HEAVILY implied the current state of the Alpha, which turns out to look SIGNIFICANTLY worse than what we have into Phase2 of the Alpha. Go look at the midnight magic preview and go to that location in game in the desert. Now alt+tab and compare them side by side. Within Narcs hyperbolic ramblings where he tries to do to Intrepid what Intrepid has done to the players(make things appear one way when they are actually another), he has a point. And that main point, is the only point which Steven STILL refuses to address. Obviously because he knows what he did and doesn't want to put himself in a position where he either lies and gets called out, or feels the need to apologize(this ain't happening, he's got too much cope, too much loyalty and too much pride for this)
it's 100% peoples own faults for burnout and disappointment with games like this, they follow every aspect of the game's development, and then hype themselves up to astronomically unattainable levels and get mad when the game doesn't meet those lofty expectations. In the case of the baldy who was shitting on the desert expansion, it frankly just sounds like a case of "Oh, it's trending to hate on Ashes now? Welp, time to make a video about it!" I keep this game in my mind but come back to check on it every now and then and frankly it does look like it's shaping up to be a really fucking cool experience and I hope they can keep that up to release
@@jslaughter95Well said, I have seen a lot of content creators suffer burnout for those exact reasons. It really is a case of “a watched pot never boils” here. Watching the game too closely literally day by day can sometimes feel like nothing is happening at all, but when you’re not so glued to it, the updates and progress become a lot more noticeable year over year. Trying to generate consistent weekly hype around a game that’s taking its time to develop is just not sustainable imo
Very well put! I've been following this project on and off since it was announced. And the progress in the past year or 2 has me more hopeful than before. I haven't bought into the alpha and I'm not sure if I even will yet. But I really hope they manage to reach their goals one way or another, because AoC has the chance to be a truly special game for me.
first of all he is a youtuber .. and you know what UA-camrs do.. he knew that everyone will respond to him and create some drama to get some attention.. thats it
Bahhahaha. You just earned yourself another subscriber. And honestly agree with your points. I understand the frustration at the same time, the escalation wasn't needed. But alias, time will tell once the game is ready. But definetly gonna check it out during May.
I joined when you did back in early 2017 & I also didn't join the Kickstarter! I did get The Settler pack though! This is the last game I preordered! I hope it does great & I want them to take their time! I have faith in Intrepid still!
I think its fair to say, as someone who has been foloowing the games development for five years at this point, that its fair for people to expect more from the development. yes games take time, and we assumed they'd been working on it for the last 8 years, and if they have, the state of the game is pathetic
I think the key difference in frustration level is based on how long you’ve been following the game. If alpha 2 is your starting point this is great for an alpha. If you played and followed since alpha 1, it’s in a very similar state, four years later.
@@Morphologicallyy yeah, why would anyone be frustrated about a project not making considerable progress over 4 years when they followed it closely for even longer than that?? its beyond me ;)
@@naruto00nix its literally a game dude its not that deep, u got nothing else to do in life? Are you working on the game? did you invest money into the project? If not then just shut up and wait for the game release. If u like it at release play it if not just refund it.
@ its a product that people pay for. ofc people are frustrated when it is not satisfactory. in the case of open development, satisfactory would mean making progress in this development that can be seen as satisfactory. also dont assume things about me... i never talked about me, since i watched this whole situation from the sidelines. im too old to get hyped over some unfinished game myself XD
@@naruto00nix sorry to tell you bro but only people who have nothing going on in life would be frustrated about something like this. You got no real life problems to be frustrated about?
G'day mate, I took a look back through the stream videos from Narc, and you can see that on launch of phase 2, there were definitely no trees around the node. He traverses the map around Azmaran and it is indeed empty sand dunes with sprinkles of mob as per his video. I travelled there yesterday before server shut down and suddenly there were trees around the node. I also travelled to the area on the east side of the desert and found the same vast gaps of nothing but random mob. Nothing he has said is untrue because when he experienced it, that was true. It is unclear at what time the trees were introduced to the area, or whether it was in response to the criticisms in his stream or his video. Also in his stream he clearly explains when he has entered the desert expansion, which is the area promoted in phase 2 that expands on the desert biome he showcased in his original video where he flies through the desert biome. To say that he ignores the initial area is in itself disingenuous, as his discussion video talks about what was expected in the phase 2 launch, but not delivered, when the biome you refer to was present in phase 1.
Hey thanks for your comment. I based my points off the claims made in Narc's video and Asmongold's stream yesterday. In his video, he omitted the developed sections of the desert and claimed that the devs were not using any of the assets they showcased prior, which is a completely false narrative. The clips of him saying there's no trees or assets in the desert were stated just yesterday on stream, which is an inaccurate thing to keep saying to followers of the game when there are indeed trees and other assets there. Going back to my point of Narc showing people a biased, less-developed area of the map without also showing viewers ANY of the developed parts.
@atlasaoc no worries! I was there in the stream, he also made a point that he was referring to the expansion into the desert promised in alpha 2, and that he had showcased the original desert content in the video prior. He also mentioned that his videos are for his audience with the assumed knowledge they watch his other videos. This is also clear in the way he speaks during the video, it's not addressed to new viewers
The trees became choppable when the nodes leveled up to stage 3 (village) after a server restart as the nodes were bugged and were not progressing properly.
@soothingchakra steven's response discussion with Asmon he admitted the trees were broken due to an outage between the message handler and the harvest server worker.
@@wiglord An expansion was put in tho - the nodes didnt exist in phase 1 but were added in phase 2. That's an expansion. It's just not what Narc was expecting. More will come in time. This concept of phase 2 includes the entire continent's worth of desert on day 1 is unrealistic. it's a development not already developed. Narc want's a beta, not an alpha.
Ppl should've played archeage lol. 4real empty spaces are boring but they can solve that with housing, with points of interest, with secret dungeons (dont even need to be big, just hard to find), with secret quests, with treasure hunting, with special mobs that fit the scenario. Lil things can make an empty space feels filled.
Game development takes a long long long time. Think of how long it takes someone to make a song, make an animated tv show, design games. Add all of that together and include time to actually code the thing. Think of how many years there are between mario titles, or pokemon gens. And those games are working with established formulas and are often reusing assets
This is what happened when you show development progress on those that doesn't really care only want the end product. Most that comment like this is not even those that donate $$$ to development.
Not an Ashes player, just judging by what I've seen from UA-cam videos, but tbh the desert in Age of Conan looks vastly more impressive than anything that I've seen in Ashes during this or any other video.
Now that you said it i find it unacceptable for the ocean to have so much water. Lets all band together and protest in every city! Let's protest against the water in the ocean! Who is with me? 😂
Meaning of Desert: A large, barren area of land with little or no vegetation, typically having a hot and dry climate, such as the Sahara or the Gobi. Some deserts, like the Arctic desert, are cold. well, I think it is pretty accurate.. lol
I guess I've been lucky. Found a fun guild "Stoic" and made friends already. Never been griefed, yes I've gotten pvped out of a couple grind spots, yes I've lost hours of hard work with my caravan getting murdered or despaawned into oblivion. Was the desert expansion bullshit? Only in the context of meeting my expectation. In the context of game development, maybe that was massive and almost groundbreaking level of work added and normal people have no idea how crazy the accomplishment was. 2024 was a year of context for me and now I look at everything this way.
I love how the guy went to an area that he knew should have been completely empty because they devs haven't got to it and is complaining that nothing is there yet hahaha.
Narc is a bald piece of an art, by art, I mean hypothetically, you can switch art with a S then a H, followed by an I, ending with a T, its enough to give you context to his rage bait videos
Aight aight. You cut down those ash trees near node. But real talk, I feel like those ash trees are intentionally placed far below ground to be partial cover for node wars. Thoughts?
Great video. Unfortunately when you pay for an ashes package - one is entitled to expect some level of fidelity from Steven. I think he should have prefaced that alpha 2 phase 2 zones were a work in progress and that limited servers would equate to limited folks playing on those servers at the start. Case in point, I still cannot log in as a kickstarter. I caution against using the term mental health. IF this game is going to be toxic, then Intrepid should not ban players or lock their critical comments about over-hyping the game - or is this comparing apples and oranges? I agree, don't get too personally involved in the game during development. Best regards, Skaff.
Hi should I join alpha in this 2nd phase state? Honestly I jumped into Throne and Liberty two months ago and game feels horrible due to bad fundamental mechanics and badly balanced pvp. After 2 months waiting for game to improve. .... being part of the way better looking game in alpha phase sounds okay :D
Completely up to you, I will say there are a lot of half-baked features right now that are not fully implemented. The purpose of this alpha really is for testing, and a lot of the systems aren't fully there yet, but if you're cool with that then I would say yes. You can always get a refund within the first 90 days of testing in case it's not for you. I will say, the game is REALLY grindy right now and the levelling is slow (killing mobs is the most efficient way currently, questing XP isn't as rewarding in later levels). The combat is pretty good which helps to make the grind more enjoyable. But the best part of it right now is the node system cause it really does feel like a community. You'll get to know your "neighbors" and learn what your faction is specializing in and the politics.
You can do two things in the game: grind mobs and PvP. If you have no guild, you can grind mobs poorly and you can't PvP. If that sounds like your cup of tea, then sure.
@@atlasaoc Okay epic I am PvP player and I really like AoC combat mechanics and I have joined Throne to get siege fights but they sucks there same way like gameplay. Then your deal sounds okish to me!
Steven (head of dev) said that it isn't for everyone. He and many of the community actively say to wait until launch unless you're okay with dealing with buggy unfinished jank. If you want to contribute and help make the game better, then sure. Thats up to you
While I don't agree with what Narc tried to do, I think the key word in his video for desert is expansion. He wanted to say that the added stuff in p2 is only copy pasted nodes and empty sand. On the other hand, most people will not understand what he wanted to say, they will think that's the whole dessert what he showed and therefore this is misleading and defamatory. I was also expecting a bigger dessert map in p2. The 3 nodes added are obviously not done and are not the right size compared to other nodes, but I know this is alpha, I know it takes time, and it will be done at some point. There is no point of attacking and calling the devs liars because of having bigger expectations.
Great take, agreed. I think Narc had some valid points but I made this video in part to dismiss the idea some people were getting that the desert as a whole was empty
yeah duh marathon, but i wont be alive to play its release in 15 years, not with my health problems :s thankfuly im rather resistant to hype more or less so i didnt spend idk how much just to never play it :D
Ppl complain about a game which is in an early alpha version (Literaly WIP!). There is just nothing more to say about this... it seems like ppl expect a full game alrdy :'D
To me both Narc and Steven are been disingenuous Steven by not speaking on the edge of the map and simply just saying its in development instead he avoided completely and Narc by not showing the developed side and stating his concerns about why he feels he was lied to when part of the node is "incomplete" Steven been a great Sales man naturally is good at selling you a product by simply avoiding a response to claims made to me that's something Narc needs to learn from. I myself am in the process of studying these market strategies and how to implement then myself in future projects ..
this ius clearly an sponsored video, please dont mislead the people who are really hungry for a good MMO, this game is far from reaching its full potential, there is still a lot to do..
I can tell you didn't watch the full vid. I literally stated the current phase isn't that impressive, desert content IS lacking, and there is a lot more that work that needs to be done on the game...
1:35 what you show here are copy-pasted trees from Riverlands, they're not desert trees. You're the one manipulating and Narc was right. 5:55 mark in Narc's video clearly shows that they're presenting "Alpha 2 Phase 2 Desert Expansion" but none of these assets are in the game. Another thing, if I watched desert biome preview video 2 years ago, I would already buy the game because it looked epic. The problem is 90% of these assets are not in the game so I would get scammed. Ah, and that preview video was literally called "ALPHA TWO Desert Biome Preview" uploaded 30 July 2022.
This is one big circle of misrepresentation lol. Narc was talking about the expansion, not the old desert oasis. So why are you showing that? He was comparing the expectation that was sold vs the expansion received. Yet here you are showing this clip as if this is what he was talking about. 2:08
Because Narc's video completely omitted the existence of the more developed desert area. He compared an empty area on the edge of the map to the landscape of the 2022 dev livestream, making it seem as if that scenery was NOWHERE to be found in the entire desert region. I just simply showed the full scope of the region, both the developed and empty areas because many people have gotten impressions from Narc's statements that the total desert is an empty patch of sand
The issue is, this is actually from new part that has expanded, not from the old part. There is plenty more places like this, as this is desert, everything will kinda look alike until some POIs are added. Narc went to the far south of the map, nearly reaching the border, and you think this is a good representation? I can agree that Desert is half-baked at current stage, but to claim it has not expanded, there are no assets from the showcase, or phase 2 added nothing, is just lie, of a person, who just wanted to farm views. Look at the engagement on his channel. This one video gave him way more attention than previous, and last other succesful video of his, was also when he was talking shit about AoC. So it is obvious farming for the clicks, even though he knows it is disingenuous.
@@kgeo2686 But they never said the expansion was going to be what was in the livestream. People (Narc) making their own assumptions of whats to come then getting butt-hurt when their expectations are not met. They said they were expanding the desert to add 3 nodes. They accomplished this. If your mind embellishes upon what was said then thats on you not the devs.
Ppl defending game that has taken 8 years to develope basicly a framework for generic MMO. This is scam citizen 2.0 and you are all 400 dollars too deep to see it. Even SC has some innovative systems while this has absolutely nothing new yet it is moving at a snail pace. Best case the game releases in 20 year and is any generic MMO, because there are no innovations or basic systems set in stone for 8 years of development.
"im testing it" what are you testing? hitting mobs? literally paid $110+ dollars just to pretend you are testing anything. even if you were a real tester, then why isnt steven paying YOU? cope.
@@carl5939You mean being a player who is providing feedback and bug reports on levelling, combat, questing, gathering, crafting, trading, caravan system, and the node system? You do realize the point of this video is to show the omitted desert areas, not to show off everything I’ve tested? Do.. you… want content creators to get paid by the devs to test and cover this game? How credible would their feedback be? Doesn’t seem like a great idea.
Who's misleading who? Big deal you are chopping an Ash trees in a copy and pasted asset. Players, sorry testers, are really getting thier money's worth. The trees in the actual phase 2 desert region cannot be interacted with. Narc isn't lying most of you AOC sycophants are just misrepresenting what he said. He did a video on the Phase 1 desert area that's not an issue. Even Thor lied about when Narcs video was recorded. Keep coping as this game will probably end up in a constant Alpha like Star citizen. But Steven has already Funded it to the end of development right? 😂
Well now we are going to have to do something about the water. 💆♂️
"it's not even that wet, I can't believe Steven would lie like this" - Likely some future video at some point.
Cry me an ocean...😢
urm... ocean is too flat, where are all of those assets? underneath? 🤓
I still believe, keep up the good work, I need Ashes to one day release :)
AoC is doing great!!! Let the haters keep hating.
I've literally never heard of this game till the other day and now, after watching Narc's video, YT decided to send me a daily video about this whole controversy about it. It looks freakin cool tbh, I'm hoping that it eventually gets released.. good video btw, pretty funny and down to earth.
Thanks for your comment, glad you enjoyed!
I commented on Narc's channel a lot. He never really wrapped his head around the Agile process and that this wasn't a traditional Alpha2 test.
At this stage we are more like guinea pigs, or rats in a maze, than critics.
Lol your dry humor is awesome and i spent the 250 and am loving this game already, even though it has a long path ahead. Count me in as a subscriber to you man.
Hey thanks so much, glad you enjoyed it!
“When there’s to much water” LMAO great vid OSRS for life!
Thanks brother! Glad you enjoyed
"its not a desert. Its just sand"
I like sand
Your sense of comedic timing is very good, any video you make will have substance in it because you're an enjoyable person to listen to
Wow thanks so much for your comment, I really appreciate that!
I think the most important aspect about all this is the Alpha previews from all throughout the last 2 years that show something which HEAVILY implied the current state of the Alpha, which turns out to look SIGNIFICANTLY worse than what we have into Phase2 of the Alpha. Go look at the midnight magic preview and go to that location in game in the desert. Now alt+tab and compare them side by side.
Within Narcs hyperbolic ramblings where he tries to do to Intrepid what Intrepid has done to the players(make things appear one way when they are actually another), he has a point. And that main point, is the only point which Steven STILL refuses to address. Obviously because he knows what he did and doesn't want to put himself in a position where he either lies and gets called out, or feels the need to apologize(this ain't happening, he's got too much cope, too much loyalty and too much pride for this)
it's 100% peoples own faults for burnout and disappointment with games like this, they follow every aspect of the game's development, and then hype themselves up to astronomically unattainable levels and get mad when the game doesn't meet those lofty expectations. In the case of the baldy who was shitting on the desert expansion, it frankly just sounds like a case of "Oh, it's trending to hate on Ashes now? Welp, time to make a video about it!" I keep this game in my mind but come back to check on it every now and then and frankly it does look like it's shaping up to be a really fucking cool experience and I hope they can keep that up to release
@@jslaughter95Well said, I have seen a lot of content creators suffer burnout for those exact reasons. It really is a case of “a watched pot never boils” here. Watching the game too closely literally day by day can sometimes feel like nothing is happening at all, but when you’re not so glued to it, the updates and progress become a lot more noticeable year over year. Trying to generate consistent weekly hype around a game that’s taking its time to develop is just not sustainable imo
Laughing coffin is a PK guild from an anime too lol.
Oh, I also farmed Laughin Coffin :D
Brother you can't believe how happy that makes me
loving the al kharid theme while talking about the desert lmao
@@bjni Glad you enjoyed!
Fucking brutal. I’m not even top 3 of bald guys.
LMAO well 2 of the 3 bald guys listed have stepped away, now there is room for you to ascend the bald guy ladder
i like caravaning to the desert.
Very well put!
I've been following this project on and off since it was announced. And the progress in the past year or 2 has me more hopeful than before.
I haven't bought into the alpha and I'm not sure if I even will yet.
But I really hope they manage to reach their goals one way or another, because AoC has the chance to be a truly special game for me.
Agreed, it has a long way to go but I'm cautiously optimistic
thats odd because the last two years are why I dont believe the project will ever exist at this point
10/10 ahahah, good stuff man also nailed it with the archeage comparison
Thank you very much!
i subbed cause you have your head on straight.
@@Highmegarza Thanks so much for your support!
first of all he is a youtuber .. and you know what UA-camrs do..
he knew that everyone will respond to him and create some drama to get some attention.. thats it
you mean narc? well over the last few years he never had fewer clicks on his uploads than in the past 2 weeks XD if this was strategy, it didnt work
3:12 is my favorite quote so far of 2025
@@DesoloGaming Thanks for your comment, glad you liked it haha
Bahhahaha. You just earned yourself another subscriber. And honestly agree with your points. I understand the frustration at the same time, the escalation wasn't needed. But alias, time will tell once the game is ready. But definetly gonna check it out during May.
Thanks so much! Welcome to the channel :)
I already like the combat by that short clip, that looks engaging
The combat is definitely one of the game's strengths so far
@@atlasaoc It should always be for every game, but a lot of game "companies" don't understand that. I'm glad aoc is.
I joined when you did back in early 2017 & I also didn't join the Kickstarter! I did get The Settler pack though! This is the last game I preordered! I hope it does great & I want them to take their time! I have faith in Intrepid still!
Good watch.
Ive sunk alot of hours in AoC, fingers crossed he can pull it off.
It’s a long long long long long road with passion (and with ur money)
I think its fair to say, as someone who has been foloowing the games development for five years at this point, that its fair for people to expect more from the development.
yes games take time, and we assumed they'd been working on it for the last 8 years, and if they have, the state of the game is pathetic
+1 Thanks for the laugh and the OSRS + AA Music :D 🤣
Thanks for your comment! Glad you liked it
I think the key difference in frustration level is based on how long you’ve been following the game. If alpha 2 is your starting point this is great for an alpha. If you played and followed since alpha 1, it’s in a very similar state, four years later.
Why would u be frustrated about that? Like srsly its a game thats still in Alpha
@@Morphologicallyy yeah, why would anyone be frustrated about a project not making considerable progress over 4 years when they followed it closely for even longer than that?? its beyond me ;)
@@naruto00nix its literally a game dude its not that deep, u got nothing else to do in life? Are you working on the game? did you invest money into the project? If not then just shut up and wait for the game release. If u like it at release play it if not just refund it.
@ its a product that people pay for. ofc people are frustrated when it is not satisfactory. in the case of open development, satisfactory would mean making progress in this development that can be seen as satisfactory.
also dont assume things about me... i never talked about me, since i watched this whole situation from the sidelines. im too old to get hyped over some unfinished game myself XD
@@naruto00nix sorry to tell you bro but only people who have nothing going on in life would be frustrated about something like this. You got no real life problems to be frustrated about?
PP and OR Vag?! Talk about winning the lottery.
good one! u have my sub
Thanks so much for your support!
3:16 LMAO this
Some people don't even touch grass, let alone sand 💔
People are playing the Alpha like it's a release. Huge mistake. Great video. Earned a sub.
@@temijinkahn511 Thank you very much!
"to much water in the ocean" lol great vid
Thank you! Glad you enjoyed
G'day mate, I took a look back through the stream videos from Narc, and you can see that on launch of phase 2, there were definitely no trees around the node. He traverses the map around Azmaran and it is indeed empty sand dunes with sprinkles of mob as per his video. I travelled there yesterday before server shut down and suddenly there were trees around the node. I also travelled to the area on the east side of the desert and found the same vast gaps of nothing but random mob. Nothing he has said is untrue because when he experienced it, that was true. It is unclear at what time the trees were introduced to the area, or whether it was in response to the criticisms in his stream or his video. Also in his stream he clearly explains when he has entered the desert expansion, which is the area promoted in phase 2 that expands on the desert biome he showcased in his original video where he flies through the desert biome. To say that he ignores the initial area is in itself disingenuous, as his discussion video talks about what was expected in the phase 2 launch, but not delivered, when the biome you refer to was present in phase 1.
Hey thanks for your comment. I based my points off the claims made in Narc's video and Asmongold's stream yesterday. In his video, he omitted the developed sections of the desert and claimed that the devs were not using any of the assets they showcased prior, which is a completely false narrative. The clips of him saying there's no trees or assets in the desert were stated just yesterday on stream, which is an inaccurate thing to keep saying to followers of the game when there are indeed trees and other assets there. Going back to my point of Narc showing people a biased, less-developed area of the map without also showing viewers ANY of the developed parts.
@atlasaoc no worries! I was there in the stream, he also made a point that he was referring to the expansion into the desert promised in alpha 2, and that he had showcased the original desert content in the video prior. He also mentioned that his videos are for his audience with the assumed knowledge they watch his other videos. This is also clear in the way he speaks during the video, it's not addressed to new viewers
The trees became choppable when the nodes leveled up to stage 3 (village) after a server restart as the nodes were bugged and were not progressing properly.
@soothingchakra steven's response discussion with Asmon he admitted the trees were broken due to an outage between the message handler and the harvest server worker.
@@wiglord An expansion was put in tho - the nodes didnt exist in phase 1 but were added in phase 2. That's an expansion. It's just not what Narc was expecting. More will come in time. This concept of phase 2 includes the entire continent's worth of desert on day 1 is unrealistic. it's a development not already developed. Narc want's a beta, not an alpha.
you got yourself a new subscriber.
Thanks so much, really appreciate your support!
Bro, you are sooo chill
Yoo thanks so much fellow Atlas, appreciate it
"Too much water in the ocean" 🤣
thx for the info. maybe Narcs biggest problem is that the real Alpha 2 starts with Beta 1. so it's good I will be there. XD
Ppl should've played archeage lol. 4real empty spaces are boring but they can solve that with housing, with points of interest, with secret dungeons (dont even need to be big, just hard to find), with secret quests, with treasure hunting, with special mobs that fit the scenario. Lil things can make an empty space feels filled.
great take thanks for the video
Thank you, glad you enjoyed
Super based video
Thank you!
aaaarhh i wanna play this game looks so damn good.
Well said !
Thank you!
Lol the into hilarious!
8 years! Think about that. Insane people still think this game is ever going to be finished
Throne and Liberty is AAA and it took them 13 years. If it does release it'll be when I'm watching my grandkids graduate
Game development takes a long long long time. Think of how long it takes someone to make a song, make an animated tv show, design games. Add all of that together and include time to actually code the thing.
Think of how many years there are between mario titles, or pokemon gens. And those games are working with established formulas and are often reusing assets
This is what happened when you show development progress on those that doesn't really care only want the end product.
Most that comment like this is not even those that donate $$$ to development.
@@atlasaoc T&L took 13 years because it had to reset development a few times.
@@ryuno2097so did Ashes when they switched from UE4 to UE5 and also completely revamped the combat from scratch after ppl weren’t happy
Not an Ashes player, just judging by what I've seen from UA-cam videos, but tbh the desert in Age of Conan looks vastly more impressive than anything that I've seen in Ashes during this or any other video.
Now that you said it i find it unacceptable for the ocean to have so much water. Lets all band together and protest in every city! Let's protest against the water in the ocean! Who is with me? 😂
what class were you using in this video?
Fighter :)
i just subscribe! i dont mind harsh truth and fair criticism. so upset that narc took that path, his copium gas ran out i guess
Hey thanks so much! Glad you enjoyed
Meaning of Desert:
A large, barren area of land with little or no vegetation, typically having a hot and dry climate, such as the Sahara or the Gobi. Some deserts, like the Arctic desert, are cold.
well, I think it is pretty accurate.. lol
Lol, agreed
Honest video. Keep it up.
Thanks so much!
I guess I've been lucky. Found a fun guild "Stoic" and made friends already. Never been griefed, yes I've gotten pvped out of a couple grind spots, yes I've lost hours of hard work with my caravan getting murdered or despaawned into oblivion. Was the desert expansion bullshit? Only in the context of meeting my expectation. In the context of game development, maybe that was massive and almost groundbreaking level of work added and normal people have no idea how crazy the accomplishment was. 2024 was a year of context for me and now I look at everything this way.
Great video
Thank you!
I love how the guy went to an area that he knew should have been completely empty because they devs haven't got to it and is complaining that nothing is there yet hahaha.
lmao, true. oceandrama next!
"Sand"😂
Narc is a bald piece of an art, by art, I mean hypothetically, you can switch art with a S then a H, followed by an I, ending with a T, its enough to give you context to his rage bait videos
''Too much water in the ocean'' Hahahahahaha :)
10/10 video
Thank you!
Aight aight. You cut down those ash trees near node. But real talk, I feel like those ash trees are intentionally placed far below ground to be partial cover for node wars. Thoughts?
I just thought they were janky placement cause of the rugged terrain but... you might be onto something
Great video. Unfortunately when you pay for an ashes package - one is entitled to expect some level of fidelity from Steven. I think he should have prefaced that alpha 2 phase 2 zones were a work in progress and that limited servers would equate to limited folks playing on those servers at the start. Case in point, I still cannot log in as a kickstarter. I caution against using the term mental health. IF this game is going to be toxic, then Intrepid should not ban players or lock their critical comments about over-hyping the game - or is this comparing apples and oranges? I agree, don't get too personally involved in the game during development. Best regards, Skaff.
Thanks very much for your comment! I definitely see where you're coming from
How long this games been in development? Like 8 years? Games going the way of 7 days to die.
Thanks for the laugh 😂
Glad you enjoyed!
I am Starcitizen backer lol. Nuff said.
Lol at least your grandkids will be able to play it
Facts
overall Jahlon is the best content creator for AoC,but idk real reason why he leave i mean its baned by steven :D
Hi should I join alpha in this 2nd phase state? Honestly I jumped into Throne and Liberty two months ago and game feels horrible due to bad fundamental mechanics and badly balanced pvp. After 2 months waiting for game to improve. .... being part of the way better looking game in alpha phase sounds okay :D
Completely up to you, I will say there are a lot of half-baked features right now that are not fully implemented. The purpose of this alpha really is for testing, and a lot of the systems aren't fully there yet, but if you're cool with that then I would say yes. You can always get a refund within the first 90 days of testing in case it's not for you. I will say, the game is REALLY grindy right now and the levelling is slow (killing mobs is the most efficient way currently, questing XP isn't as rewarding in later levels). The combat is pretty good which helps to make the grind more enjoyable. But the best part of it right now is the node system cause it really does feel like a community. You'll get to know your "neighbors" and learn what your faction is specializing in and the politics.
You can do two things in the game: grind mobs and PvP. If you have no guild, you can grind mobs poorly and you can't PvP. If that sounds like your cup of tea, then sure.
@@Ranziel1 same like Throne and Liberty Bro ! Epic 🤣
@@atlasaoc Okay epic I am PvP player and I really like AoC combat mechanics and I have joined Throne to get siege fights but they sucks there same way like gameplay. Then your deal sounds okish to me!
Steven (head of dev) said that it isn't for everyone. He and many of the community actively say to wait until launch unless you're okay with dealing with buggy unfinished jank. If you want to contribute and help make the game better, then sure.
Thats up to you
While I don't agree with what Narc tried to do, I think the key word in his video for desert is expansion. He wanted to say that the added stuff in p2 is only copy pasted nodes and empty sand. On the other hand, most people will not understand what he wanted to say, they will think that's the whole dessert what he showed and therefore this is misleading and defamatory. I was also expecting a bigger dessert map in p2. The 3 nodes added are obviously not done and are not the right size compared to other nodes, but I know this is alpha, I know it takes time, and it will be done at some point. There is no point of attacking and calling the devs liars because of having bigger expectations.
Great take, agreed. I think Narc had some valid points but I made this video in part to dismiss the idea some people were getting that the desert as a whole was empty
Lmao great vid…insta-sub
Thanks so much for your support! Glad you enjoyed
Toxic game confirmed.
Anyone paying 110$ for access to this shit is rich asfk or regarded. or both.
yeah duh marathon, but i wont be alive to play its release in 15 years, not with my health problems :s thankfuly im rather resistant to hype more or less so i didnt spend idk how much just to never play it :D
Sorry to hear that, I sincerely hope you get to play the full release if/when it ever comes out, and truly hope everything gets better for you
NarcSydePhil talking shit as usual
Ppl complain about a game which is in an early alpha version (Literaly WIP!). There is just nothing more to say about this... it seems like ppl expect a full game alrdy :'D
To me both Narc and Steven are been disingenuous
Steven by not speaking on the edge of the map and simply just saying its in development instead he avoided completely
and
Narc by not showing the developed side and stating his concerns about why he feels he was lied to when part of the node is "incomplete"
Steven been a great Sales man naturally is good at selling you a product by simply avoiding a response to claims made to me that's something Narc needs to learn from.
I myself am in the process of studying these market strategies and how to implement then myself in future projects ..
this ius clearly an sponsored video, please dont mislead the people who are really hungry for a good MMO, this game is far from reaching its full potential, there is still a lot to do..
I can tell you didn't watch the full vid. I literally stated the current phase isn't that impressive, desert content IS lacking, and there is a lot more that work that needs to be done on the game...
Steven goes on every videos on youtube to comment
This guy has no limit about shame
1:35 what you show here are copy-pasted trees from Riverlands, they're not desert trees. You're the one manipulating and Narc was right. 5:55 mark in Narc's video clearly shows that they're presenting "Alpha 2 Phase 2 Desert Expansion" but none of these assets are in the game. Another thing, if I watched desert biome preview video 2 years ago, I would already buy the game because it looked epic. The problem is 90% of these assets are not in the game so I would get scammed.
Ah, and that preview video was literally called "ALPHA TWO Desert Biome Preview" uploaded 30 July 2022.
sooooo ... like archeage ... the game will die. -,-
@@rodrigoaraujo2708 Well if they add p2w loot boxes like Archeage did then yes lol
This is one big circle of misrepresentation lol.
Narc was talking about the expansion, not the old desert oasis. So why are you showing that?
He was comparing the expectation that was sold vs the expansion received.
Yet here you are showing this clip as if this is what he was talking about. 2:08
Because Narc's video completely omitted the existence of the more developed desert area. He compared an empty area on the edge of the map to the landscape of the 2022 dev livestream, making it seem as if that scenery was NOWHERE to be found in the entire desert region. I just simply showed the full scope of the region, both the developed and empty areas because many people have gotten impressions from Narc's statements that the total desert is an empty patch of sand
The issue is, this is actually from new part that has expanded, not from the old part. There is plenty more places like this, as this is desert, everything will kinda look alike until some POIs are added. Narc went to the far south of the map, nearly reaching the border, and you think this is a good representation?
I can agree that Desert is half-baked at current stage, but to claim it has not expanded, there are no assets from the showcase, or phase 2 added nothing, is just lie, of a person, who just wanted to farm views. Look at the engagement on his channel. This one video gave him way more attention than previous, and last other succesful video of his, was also when he was talking shit about AoC. So it is obvious farming for the clicks, even though he knows it is disingenuous.
@@atlasaoc The expansion IS a total empty patch of sand tho!
Again, he compared “Expansions expected” vs “Expansion received”
@@kgeo2686 But they never said the expansion was going to be what was in the livestream.
People (Narc) making their own assumptions of whats to come then getting butt-hurt when their expectations are not met.
They said they were expanding the desert to add 3 nodes. They accomplished this. If your mind embellishes upon what was said then thats on you not the devs.
Ppl defending game that has taken 8 years to develope basicly a framework for generic MMO. This is scam citizen 2.0 and you are all 400 dollars too deep to see it. Even SC has some innovative systems while this has absolutely nothing new yet it is moving at a snail pace. Best case the game releases in 20 year and is any generic MMO, because there are no innovations or basic systems set in stone for 8 years of development.
"im testing it" what are you testing? hitting mobs? literally paid $110+ dollars just to pretend you are testing anything. even if you were a real tester, then why isnt steven paying YOU? cope.
@@carl5939You mean being a player who is providing feedback and bug reports on levelling, combat, questing, gathering, crafting, trading, caravan system, and the node system? You do realize the point of this video is to show the omitted desert areas, not to show off everything I’ve tested?
Do.. you… want content creators to get paid by the devs to test and cover this game? How credible would their feedback be? Doesn’t seem like a great idea.
@@atlasaoc your not testing anything
Who's misleading who? Big deal you are chopping an Ash trees in a copy and pasted asset. Players, sorry testers, are really getting thier money's worth. The trees in the actual phase 2 desert region cannot be interacted with. Narc isn't lying most of you AOC sycophants are just misrepresenting what he said.
He did a video on the Phase 1 desert area that's not an issue. Even Thor lied about when Narcs video was recorded.
Keep coping as this game will probably end up in a constant Alpha like Star citizen. But Steven has already Funded it to the end of development right? 😂
Hope Steve gave you some money for this shilling. :)