Badal akalis are responsible for this situation totally, they had complete mandate to turn Punjab around on the path to peace and prosperity but they focused more on personal wealth than state affairs.
Shekhar sir knows about Punjab and Sikhs well. Please don't criticise his views unless you know about Fundamentals of Sikhs and traditions. They need to be understood to be able to say a word about it. Those not knowing Sikh religion should appreciate Selhar sahib for letting many us know about it.
Such a nice episode that Shekharji can openly discuss the Sikh religion spiritual administration and its intricacies to wide world through the media with great respect. Hope that he can do the same to other side also openly.
Hindu/Sanatan side is not an organized religion/dharma. Different discussion. I don’t understand the Muslim side; it seems to have been taken over by congress party for few decades now.
Still wondering how this is a punishment for ruining a whole state. The seva as a Sikh is a duty, can't be punishment. As a kid, and even now when I go home, I listen to kirtan for more than 1 hour daily when my parents hear it. Didn't know it could be punishment. Finally, the idea of toilet cleaning as a punishment clearly has casteist origins. Moroever, I can't believe that for all the things Maharaja Ranjit Singh did, marrying Muslim woman was the reason for punishment, keeping in mind the companion of Sri Guru Nanak Dev Ji was a Muslim by birth too. I am sure I am getting many abrasive responses to even put some counter to Akal Takht, but some things definitely need to be said. To me, this "punishment" is all a sham to somehow revive SAD, with Badals now operating the same way as before, just behind the scenes.
I think you needs to do a bit more research. Ram Rahim sent a letter which wasn’t an apology but a clarification. That letter was edited with Badal’s influence and word “apology” was added. Ram Rahim straightaway refused that he apologised to Akal Takhat. Secondly, Ram Rahim introduced term “insaan” and asked his followers to use it as a surname. It was announced on the day he dressed up like Guru Gobind Singh ji. This incident provoked Sikhs. But you are saying that Ram Rahim called himself an insaan to clarify to Akal takhat that he didn’t try to copy Guru Gobind Singh ji. Come on. Can’t believe that such a celebrated journalist is spreading false news. It is the problem with national media, they think that they know everything but their research about regional issues is half cooked.
If congress was an enterprise then why you dads and dadas voted them for power for these many year. Because they knew communals and arrogants can't run the country peacefully. Look at the condition of India today. No one respect us coz of 2 clawns sitting on top chairs...
Punjab is doomed..SGPC is ironically one of the biggest reasons for its downfall. Remember, although Court dropped the murder charges, like Shekhar Gupta likes to whitewash the crimes, Jagir Kaur was convicted of forcing her daughter to abort her child and keeping her in illegal confinement!! And she used to head the SGPC at some point! These are the power heads of Sikhism now. Her whole team including the driver, SubInspector Personnel Guard all were convicted and only crime they couldn't prove was the murder because the body was cremated and ashes disappeared for any forensics to be conducted! Fake evangelist churches are rapidly converting low caste sikhs with lure of money and travel to US/UK/Canada. Drugs and Chitta is slowly eating the youth in Punjab and most industry has left due to law and order situation, Crop rotation of heavily pesticide wheat and rice is slowly killing the land and turning it infertile and barren- just like the political leadership of once the great state of Guru Nanakji's Punjab. Wahe Guru.
The problem of Sikhism since the early 80s is : the Akal Takht has been held hostage to increasingly disorienting concentric narratives spun around : Miri, Piri, and Nashedi. From tolerating ( or turning a blind eye to ) co-operation of Khalistanis with Pakistan to redirect the epicentre of narcotics trade towards North India, to meekly capitulating in the face of pressure from influential farmers to lay siege to Delhi .. the corruption through "nasha" has become synonymous with the nasha of corruption. 4 decades of Badals and other elite groups shoving pious, ordinary Sikhs into a maelstrom of bad money, worse crimes and inducements to addiction ( the very worst ) have happened under the lazy eye of the Akal Takht. Time will not be kind to the Akal Takht and it's practice of doling out indulgences. The power centre remains unchanged because the youth are being driven away, one suspects, by the machinations of the very people in power. And all they get by way of punishment for their crimes against their qaum is .. cleaning of latrines ( that too, a suspended sentence ? ). Kaisi teri khudgarzi, kaisa tera pyaar ? Where's the justice, yaar ?
Gurmeet Ram Rahim wore a dress similar to Guru Gobind Singh Ji Maharaj and even conducted Ruhaani Jaam ceremony on the similar lines of Amrit Sanchaar ! This was the main issue with him.
The only reason why India still a country with 70-80 crore poors, basically half of its population, and poor public infrastructure bcs we Indians gives vote on the basis of religion and caste and not on the real issue, such as, why RTO offices or gov departments in small districts are in pathetic conditions or why goverment colleges in small districts & town have degraded over the decades. No politician is to be blame for that, its us, Indians, who cant set our priority towards nation but towards caste & religion.
@@Life.is.a.library But in this scenario not everything is negative because Sukhbir Badal accepts all his bad karama publicly now voters know how he makes them fool past times.
@jagdishsharma4649 its just to avoid more harm. Do you think his politics would have survived if he said no to these punishments. This is nothing new for indian politics, dont you know our country's politicians.
How come Binderwalle was not declared a tankayat? He made the Akal Takth his home. This is blasphemous and none of the gurus ever did that even when they were getting killed.
@@navjotsinghrandhawa5547he doesn't not done anything which is against sikhism Iff babur make report on ram mandir he will also say there were terrorist inside mandir
@@navjotsinghrandhawa5547 I know he was Jathedar of Damdami Taksal, was invited by then Jathedar Kripal singh to stay in Akal Takht I believe to defend as Planning was done to attack Darbar Sahib in 1982
Badal rule, especially during sukbir Badal tenure, has done irreparable damage to Punjab, from debt to corruption. It all started during his tenure and destroyed the state and can never be pardoned this punishment is nothing for these looters and destroyers of Punjab
Calling it a punishment is laughable and an insult to not only the Sikh community but the Panjabi and Indian people as a whole. They have ruined Panjab and think cleaning VIP toilets and doing bs photoshoots is going to absolve them of anything. Panjab has been betrayed and pimped out by these charlatans.
Either they did all the things they admitted or they did not. If they did then the punishment should have been at least 2-3 months of toilet cleaning by each person including Sukhbir. How is 2 days of seva a punishment? Even I do more than that at the local Gurudwara without any punishment. Local devotee women spend the whole day cooking langar. Unfortunately this whole thing just proves that Guru Gobind Singh was right about Guru Maniyo Granth. I don’t think normal humans at SGPC are capable of doing justice soundly.
It is advani moment of akalis...when advani said jinnah was secular and he was totally destroyed after that... similar with badals ...leaving real vote for tactical votes destroyed them permanently...
It's not to be compared with Advani or any other such person. Its the power of the Sikh tradition as set by 6th Guru Hargobind Sahib that religion has to be a guiding force in political set up. Religion is not organized one, it means the righteous path.
@@gvsingh8785 Having an extra-constitutional right to pass a judgment for punishing someone is not an "organized religion". That is exactly how Organised religion with Sharia works too.
@@manpreetmannu1428 bro. He literally carried a party from 2 seats to 182 seats. If he isn't a politician then what? He isn't any dynast. His family migrated from Pakistan
@bhavawadhwa1852 he is a bot ,badal are trying very har to justify this and sgpc is totally under their influence, they are doing this to save akali party But there's famous saying in punjab that- Dinasours can come back to earth but not akalis
@@prabhgrewal22brother...I hope you're right in the last line...but unfortunately, anything is possible . Badlas will give freebies and leverage some votes from Christians and voila - they're back.
@@bhavawadhwa1852😂😂 I can give thousands such examples for example THIRUPATHI is founded as a reactionary to casteist Brahmins by ANNAMAYYA (it so happens he goes against all Brahmins and educates his wife and she became first Telugu women poet and read his poetry he is very anti caste )…😂 but the irony is now Thirupathi is controlled by one Brahmin family😂(descended of Annamayya)
Hindus are 80% in this country. A hindu nationalist party is ruling for the last 10 years. Still the hidutva dumbfs are crying a river. Itna khatre me ho to bhai bunkr bna ke chup jao or bahar mt ana kabhi.
Why does a religious council has right to give punishment to individuals? That's the bigger question. If he ruined the state ...the collect evidence on how he ruined the state and file in court .
Akal takht is sikhs biggest authority... sikhism was found 500 years back when democracy didn't exist . So akal takhat sahib has power to punish any sikh if he is doing something against religious conduct. It is only for sikhs , and sikhs follow akal takhat sahib's orders. It's religious concept .. You need to explore sikhism for better understanding ... and yes court in india cannot punish anyone for religious misconduct but in sikhism Akal takht sahib has this authority. If akal Takht sahib commands that 'someone' is now no longer part of sikhs , all sikhs will boycott that person . That's the religious power and importance of Shri Akal takht sahib. and yes for clarification , It's only for one practicing sikhism ..
@@nv9991 whataboutery at its finest even on a Sikh video. What about the Muslims that were killed? What about the Christian’s that were killed? What about the Sikhs that were killed? What about the women in Manipur that were killed? What about the Kashmiri pandits that were killed? 😂
Who has apologised for the ethno cleansing of punjab? Who has apologises for the Hindi mandate in schools, so Sikh kids needed to learn Punjabi and Gurmukhi outside of schools? Who apologises for this inability for Sikh children to have an education to be able to read their scripture? Who apologises for the westernisation of punjab culture? Who apologises for the rapidly decline portion of uncut hair sikhs? After this the more important question is how to kids who have been misled and so far disconnected from the sikhi that was mandated and taught in maharaja ranjits time, who puts them back where sikhs were prior to all this British and government oppression? Who apologises for that?
@ it has been used and juiced out by hindus to suppress weaker people….only now it has been criticized in modern times…. Akal Takhat also dont have any legal implementation…… The sikh himself comes with a public confession of his crime against other sikhs or humanity and apologizes to sikhs…. Most of the time it’s powerful people who get called here because of public pressure….
As Indians, shouldn't we all be held accountable as per the Bharatiya Nyaya Samhita (IPC)? Why are these Indian Citizens being tried by an Akali Panchayat? What message is that sending to the nation?
Indian nation came into existence 77 years ago while the Shri Akal Takhat Sahib was built 250 years ago. We respect Indian nation because our people gave their lives to bring this nation into existence, but you need to respect our way of life too.
@@JaySingh-gn2hx my apologies for saying this, but in this 77 year old nation, Sikhs are still thriving and growing in numbers and it because of the ethos of this 77 year old Indian nation. Look what is happening to Sikhs in our benevolent neighbouring countries. Hindu tradition has been in existence for thousands of years, in fact all other faiths are older than Sikhism. What happens to law and order when everyone/every religious group start holding their own Panchayats and meting out their own forms of justice? This is why as a nation, we have a single penal code.
It's not panchayat. Whe u don't knows about others then don't bark. Its the matter and faith of Sikhs. If u have complaint then go and file case in court
@@JaySingh-gn2hx dude ..I am the biggest supporter of diversity and inclusion but if a religious body circumvents proper authorities then it is a problem .. giving punishment is the job of courts ...not akal takht . And it's not " our people for this country " it's our people for our country ... Every freedom fighter from every corner of India is equal .. don't put them in groups. And no religious council should have authority to punish an Indian citizen..no matter which religion .
Well tried, but you guys always try to defame Maharaja Ranjit Singh , he was declared Tankhaya because he just went to a place place where ladies were dancing (mujra ) for the first time .He was playing role of leader in Khalsa Sarkar . Thats the reason .
I'm Maharashtrian and I don't give a damn. If I were alive during maharaja Ranjit Singh's time, irrespective of what happened, I would have still joined his army, and marched off in the direction our maharaja pointed us to. This ruling no matter how legal under Sikhism, is still extra constitutional. Tomorrow we will have to legalize pandits in Hindu temples sanctioning punishment...the concept of fatwa already exists in islam. The last time they opposed the specially designed helmets for Sikh soldiers of the Indian army- for these guys their dictats are more important than the frontline soldiers life.
@@hogginarmocount9562you are right but the sikh in majority are zombies and won't listen to sense. The radicalisation is very high in this over rated community
@@hogginarmocount9562constitution and judiciary is baised like parliament and corrupt too constitutional is not signed by sikhs because Article 25(2)(b) of the Indian Constitution specifically addresses the scope of religious freedoms and social reform. Here's what it states: Text of Article 25(2)(b): " law providing for social welfare and reform or the throwing open of Hindu religious institutions of a public character to all classes and sections of Hindus." Explanation: 1. Inclusion of Sikhs, Jains, and Buddhists: The explanation under Article 25 states that the term "Hindus" includes persons professing the Sikh, Jain, or Buddhist religions. This means that laws and reforms under this clause apply equally to Hindus, Sikhs, Jains, and Buddhists in matters such as access to religious institutions. To prevent discrimination and promote inclusivity in public Hindus often been criticized by Sikh as undermining their distinct identity. In india majority makes rules and impose on others
@@hogginarmocount9562 We can have conversation on this , You need better understanding of a religion before making prejudices. Akal Takhat sahib has this power to punish on the basis of religious misconduct . One who follows sikhism and is a sikh , accepts the punishment. It doesnot apply on non- sikhs. Listen it is very basic. Someone who follows sikhism and claims to be a sikh , must follow religious conduct. Something which may be crime in sikhism may not be crime in eyes of court , for example , cutting hairs . If a amritdhari sikhs cut his hairs , he has done a mistake , and according to gurus he must apologize for it and get the punishment. Now court doesn't see as a crime , but religion does. Now if that person regrets cutting his hairs and wants to apologize and get Amrit again , he will come to akal takhat sahib and they will announce his punishment. Punishment varies from mistakes to crime. Like skipping doing prayer is a mistake and akal takhat may announce him to do 10 more prayers ..So that's important in sikhism to maintain the conduct.. Akal takhat Sahib holds power on sikhs , not on any one else The concept the power of Akal takhat Sahib is very important and of great respect. Even Maharaja Ranjit SIngh ji accepted the punishment because he may be the king but at the same time he is sikh and doing something against religious conduct is punishable for him as he is sikh. It is humbleness and respect to our faith. Religions are based one faith brother. Like for example Beef . Eating beef is a crime in hinduism and even sikhs don't eat beef. Because that's our faith right? But maybe for muslims eating beef is all okay .. It's crime for them to eat pork.. It's all about faith. Courts cannot decide on it and in law it's not punishable to eat beef , but may be as hindu it may be crime for you to do that ... Such things are called religious misconduct. In sikhism , Akal takhat sahib deals with such issues. I'll be pleased to dicuss your doubts , you can ask.
where is democracy? not in India. thats wht u guys were told from schools. Go to democratic countries like America, Canada adn then ask is there any democarcy in India or its disabled democracy. Afcourse u cant understand one good way is , is anything big that rules the country , in other words run the country is working the way u read in books of democracy chapters in schools. Answer is no, but those things can be experienced in Canada,America. We got Independence but we forgot to fight for Democracy. In future talk has started, Indians have to fight for democracy.
@@ajitsinghrai8603 wtf are you blabbering about, Democracy in USA is utter bs, a convicted felon became President of the USA while the son of a sitting President who was also convicted got a blanket Presidential pardon for whatever shit he pulled for last 10 years, and don't even get me started on Canada, so if you truly want to lick westerners balls atleast pick some other countries as examples of beacon of democracy.
Miri and Piri powers applied to the Gurus, not to normal human beings. The Jathedars key duty is to serve and administer the Gurudwara infrastructure and provide a viewpoint on religious matters where this is necessary.
Dont be andhbhakt, Akal Takhat represents Gurus takhat and Holy book is seen as living guru. Study about sikhi then talk and please dont mix ur or other religions to really understand sikhi and its aspects.
I am an anti Modi already so I will easily comply with your first point and not be an Andbhakt. But I won’t stop using my brain. Tell me where in the SGGS or any other baani from the Gurus, it says that any Jathedar will inherit all of the Guru’s powers. On the other hand, Guru Gobind Singh was very clear on “Guru Maniyo Granth” which obviously prohibits the powers you are implying from being inherited by anyone else
The issue is that a lot of people do “bhed chal”. If somebody told them the Akal Takht has the full Miri and Piri powers of the Guru, they say “yeah I already know that”. I am not saying that the Akal Takht should not be respected because that is our Maryada and for the Jathedar holds some spiritual authority for sure, but what I am saying is that the authority of a Jathedar is nowhere near the same zone as the Guru. A Jathedar is just an ordinary person who in a good case may be endowed with some spiritual knowledge. In itihaas this has been shown to be true - we have had many very very bad Jathedars of various Takhts as well as good ones. Nobody, absolutely nobody ever in history had the authority of the Guru. When Ranjit Singh bowed before the Akal Takht, it was for a religious reason alone (read about these incidents if you don’t know the details) not because the Jathedar disagreed with his policies. Ranjit Singh was sovereign in matters of worldly policy such as which lands to conquer, who to appoint where, what taxes to levy etc. Additionally, I am saying that the concept of the full powers of the Miri and Piri literally belonged to the Guru alone because the Guru reflected the Noor of God himself. Today in a democracy the Jathedars of the Akal Takht have some of the power of the Piri and perhaps it is time for the Quam to agree that the power of Miri power belongs to the CM of Punjab and the PM of India because that is who was elected in a fair process. Ranjit Singh won his territory through the sword and they have done so through the ballot. That was the way of that age and this is the way of this age and perhaps superior. But that is where Miri belongs after the last Guru. You may have a slight difference on the latter part of my assertion, but as a Sikh how can you even dispute something so fundamental as Guru Maniyo Granth and not creating new Gurus by proxy? How can you even compare that authority of the Guru and the authority of a human Jathedar.
Really 😂 BTW, there is no concept of be adbi to the Quom it’s only to the Gurus (including SGGS). You are probably a Hindu and I would request you to not insert yourself in a religious matter even (and especially not) in jest.
22.34 Akali Dal is the political expression of Sikhism in Punjab. If the Akali Dal is going down, it means Sikhism is going down. Everybody knows that hordes of Sikhs are becoming crypto-Christans and the trend is not going to stop. Reason for this is two-fold. First, like Islam, Sikhism became a political religion wherein it is important for a religion to have its political suzerainty as well. This became prominent after Guru Govind Singh. After 1606, the political Sikhism was directed against Islam represented by Mughals. Political Sikhism got a new lease of life with Ranjit Singh's Sikh Empire, though it wasn't virulently anti-Muslim. Second, now the political Sikhism has turned anti-Hindu as it sees political power going to BJP which represents Hinduism as did formerly Mughals the Islam. Hence you see Sikhs voting for Congress or AAP and not BJP, though Congress massacred Sikhs in 1984. Also there is not a word against Pakistan from the Sikh quartes where Sikhs are persecuted and earlier who drove out and massacred Sikhs along with Hindus from Pakistan in 1947. Also Sikhs are so politically swayed by the Hindu-hatred that they never protest against Sikhs turning into crypto-Christians. The so-called kisaan andolan mostly dominated by Sikhs in being anti-BJP also reflects the same Hindu-hatred. Formerly, Bhindranwale and now Pannu Singh are the great symbols of political Sikhism anchored in Hindu-hatred..
@@psnatarajan6131 why not flip the logic and I can say Indira and Modi are anti-sikh ... be neutral in your approach if you want to understand nuances.. baki bhakt banna hai to bano
The sikhs of punkab have lost it completely , acting like talibanis. Couptaji and his sidekicks will support this ,madness all the tim3. Some one should point this out and ask them to come back to ground . enough is enough Couptajis woll ne totally different if Hindus follow their old traditions.
Listening to this, I feel I am blessed to be a Hindu and remain a Hindu. Just the concept of dharma and karma, which keeps you true to self, no other unnecessary blasphemy rules. Wonder how a santani sikh pant ended up like those mid-east desert cults!
@@NoLove179it is the soft underbelly of Hinduism. Things are getting better. Intercaste marriages are happening, casteism will dilute in urban areas by large extent in urban areas in upcoming years.
Wrong picture shown of Jathedar of Hazur Sahib nanded . Yes names are same but jathedar ji is another one and picture shown is of giani kulwant Singh ji a religious preacher not jathedar
Maharaja Ranjit Singh is not the only Sikh Monarch. Get your facts right, Mr. Gupta. Also the controversy regarding the apology by Ram Rahim is that he never truly apologized but the draft letter was edited and that the apology line added on later on the insistence of Badals by the SGPC officials.
Badals have damaged akali dal party so much that many sikh people trust congress more than Badal Akali Dal…. AAP has a majority of 94/117 MLA’s, the most in history of punjabi suba. Now, the competition seems to be between AAP and congress in Punjab….
It surprises me that it was the Congress that created mess in Punjab. Zail Singh as CM under Indira Gandhi as PM propped up Brindranwale to have control on Akhal Takht, the spiritual seat. Come 1979, for strange reasons as Congress was not in power then, Khalistan getting propped up. Openly Brindranwale did not support Khalistan movement. Then came 1982 when the Golden Temple were occupied by Brindranwale group with arms and ammunition, Indira Gandhi then PM ordered army action which lead to serious desecration of Golden Temple. This lead assas8lination of Indira Gandhi and massive killing of Sikhs that followed, eading to many Sikhs settling in Canada, UK and USA. Post year 1991 many things were under control, until recently Punjab as a state is going through different challenges.
@ congress did the damage and apologized and made a sikh prime minister for 10 years, even then a big population of sikhs dont vote for congress no matter what… this time those non-congress votes shifted from akali dal to AAP!!!!
@@ayes1669 a big population of sikhs dont vote for congress no matter what… So how did congress rule the state so many times with a clear majority of its own?
Dear Shekar sir and Team Print, I took ur membership since am ur great fan,but I am deeply disappointed by u and ur team , as no one is speaking about MR VIJAY political entry against all major ruling parties at all levels.pl tell its against ethos tat rulomg party in TN is controlling almost all industry from cinema to media ,how one big ruling party is nearing it's end because of dynasty. FAMOUS QUOTE IF AMBEKAR HAS TOLD ALL ARE EQUAL BY BIRTH ..IT ALSO MEANS NO ONE CAN BECOME CM BY BIRTH
Nobody is forcing them to accept the punishment, they are accepting it as they believe in the tradition, as simple as that. It is same like parents giving some punishment to their child.
There are two things, first the so called punishments are seva or service at gurudwara which other volunteers(sewadaar) also do, nobody is throwing someone in jail. Second you aren`t bound to accept it, if you don`t accept it at worst people will boycott you publicly that`s it there is no real harm done
@@mistersingh6470they are outdated .........with this logic manusmriti is older than your religion.....and Shariah is also older than your religion.......all of the above are outdated laws.......do they have AI , space program, computers, smartphone , internet?!
Muslims need to learn how to deal with blasphemy --- this is not an entirely bad way to deal of with blasphemy. What these groups do inside their temples, as long as they don't discriminate by caste, we shouldn't care --- STSJ should not be allowed
Is this anything less than a Fatwa ? Why we dont criticize all intolerant and barbaric practices in Sikhism. Its one thing to do voluntarily and another thing to do under a dictat
"Untill there is a process of cleaning their sins humans will keep doing it "~ OSHO Seems like sikhism is just going on same path of brahmanism and islam where the clergy can punish people...
The religion has been like this from starting they just practised more recently. Akali dal was supposed to be an arm of akal takht so obviously they bound to take steps now. This is not even a punishment its more like symbolic. Not even close to islam mate. You guys wont understand
Sikhs grew by 8% according to 2011 Census (Half of that of Hindus, a third to Muslims) Yet SGPC is focussed on such issues. By 2025 Census Sikhs would have hardly grown by 5%
'Insan' suffix denotes people from communities other than Hindu('Ram') and Muslim('Rahim') are also welcome to join his dera.For eg Christians,Buddhists etc
Until Akali Dal unite with BJP they won't be back to power in Punjab.. Unless the Akalis don't focus on conversion issue then there will no Sikh left in punjab and it will not be Akali dalat controlling,it will be the Missionaries controlling punjab 😂😂 Screen shot this and thank me after 20 yrs
This is a dangerous trend were a religious body is allowed to have a parallel governance. Badals shouldn't have succumbed to sgpc diktat. It's high time that government starts taking the threat from sgpc seriously and also think about dissolving the organization and replacing it with a moderate body.
@@shivfloyd Na they won't it was bjp in 2016 who emboldened the SGPC by agreeing to all their demands of gurudwara election process .The voices who make calls of disbanding SGPC are usually from the Right wing but they got no power and are often passed off as Trads and hounded out by their own political hindu brothers
@@maddyc503 How is this magic lol? Akal takht summoned the sinners, asked them questions, they admitted guilty to all of them and then a punishment was met out. Do you have negative iq?
@@maddyc503 Crimes against the sikh community. Like failing to provide justice for sacrilege crimes, promoting and helping officers who shot and killed innocents, stealing gurudwara donation money for personal usage etc..... etc..... theres an incredible list in this case......
You guyz don’t give space to Punjab otherwise its most important state to discuss where minority is in majority and sitting on most crucial border… panjab make its own space
I hope Sikhs loosen their emphasis on hair. It makes no sense to have such strict restrictions on cutting hair. Character and faith should be the main focus.
You mean the SGPC? Most Sikh families today are unlikely to boycott someone in their own family because he or she cuts their hair. The SGPC was set-up to maintain the Gurudwaras and preach the religion hence they've got to maintain the purity of the faith. For them to deviate from the tenants of the faith becomes hard.
@@finehumanbeing3506 SGPC wont punish you for cutting your hair, most sikhs have cut hair today even who tie turbans have their beards cut …. It just a tradition thats it … you dont have to be a uncut hair person to be a sikh anyways
Let me rephrase your words in a different context, hopefully it will help with understanding the ideology of keeping hair. "hope governments loosen their emphasis on army uniforms. It makes no sense to have such strict restrictions on regimented clothes. Bravery and loyalty should be the main focus" Now in this case, bravery and loyalty does not need the uniform, but uniform represent the bravery and loyalty to the country. Same way character and fate does not need hair, but hair are expected to be the representation of a good character and faith
Today, Punjab is ruled by a progressive Hindu political party called AAP. This party has a thumping majority in Punjab and is more popular there than Divided political parties like BJP and Akalis. The rest of the country should follow the lofty progressive ideals set by Punjabis.
Yeah sikhi has alot common with many religions. Our Gurus took all good things fromm every religion and made sikh religion, for ur statements answer, well u guys all time work on stupid agenda that sikhs are hindus and now sayin we are similar to muslims, decide one thing bcs what i ever heard is hindus nowadays are criticising Muslims for no reason, but just to get feeling of their raj which is temporary. People who got Raj as a pitty without any real fight for independence after 900 plus years of slavery cant rule like a pro ruler like Maharaja Ranjit Singh and Baba Banda Singh Bhadur. All u guys can do is wht nowadays is happening total shit. No ethical ways to rulle bcs u guys never fout for raj just ruling bcs of population, no other factor. People who fout every time are under stupid leaders like Modi and Rahul. Even 1947 was just on Punjab and little parts of Bengal and both are minorties and getting feeling of still living as non-independent and people who just did charkha and said show other side to get slapped from Firangis are ruling bcs its fucking stupid idea of democracy. And, we got only independence from britishers, fight for democracy is in the fututre. There is no democray just shaky aspects or little points or parts of democary in India. I call it disabled democracy. Educate urself and be a Human not andhbhakt.
@@jaibirkang5345And similarly when u do not have any idea, about other religions, u should also keep mum especially when your own religion is stuck in medieval times, which were even backward scientifically n spiritually than thousand years before itself
By your logic if the Samajwadi party draws its vote base from Yadav and Muslims should we call it a caste+religion party? It is Bhartiy Janta Party. Its not the Hindu Janta party, like the Muslim League or MIM or Akali dal.
Everyone draws votes on basis of religion. Muslims votes congress/TMC/SP/RJD because of religion. Sikhs in jammu, Maharashtra, bihar UP also vote for BJP because of religion.
Jat leaders like Prakash Singh Badal, Dushyant Chautala, Sukbir Singh Badal and others sold themselves to RSS Nagpur BJP and betrayed the Jat community. Ch Chhotu Ram is an example of a Jat leader who worked tirelessly for the Jat community in undivided India which included Pakistan. The entire Badal family never let any Jat leader emerge and through their contacts in Haryana sabotaged the Jat community to help BJP. The Badal family is very rich with ill gotten wealth.
Well the leaders who are discussed in this topic are mostly Jats. Sikhism gives respect to all communities irrespective of caste and in fact is the Indian religion which brought equality to oppressed weaker sections of the Indian society including untouchables and tribals.
My great grandfather worked with chotu ram. He supported Arya Samaj. He vowed revenge after bhagat phool singh (person after which university is named) was put down by ranghars. His followers played prominent role in 1947 retribution after Punjabis started pouring in after being looted. Regards
You do this Canada and then check their comments........why you want to go back 500 years ?!..... don't play victim card......I saw more worst comments about Hindus on indian youtube channel in so called hindu nation.
ha bc everything was dine by rss , Christian conversion also rss drug menace also rss , huge immigrant problem also rss water level to depletion also rss , so many sacrilege lynching and killing also rss bc Sab rss karwa eahi hai ,toh tum kya jar raje ho ch##ye
@@IamSuperman154Mrs Indira Gandhi used to ask all who came to meet her about whether she should send armed forces in Harmandir Complex and all told her it was a bad idea except Advani and some other BJP leaders. Eventually she agreed to Operation Bluestar after assurance from right wing Hindu leaders that she would get Hindu votes for the foreseeable future. Even the Army generals mistakenly mislead her when they told her it would be a short operation with low casualties. In fact a relative of mine Ranjit Singh Dyal who was one of the Generals overseeing the operation told Mrs Gandhi that Sant Bhindranwale and his 300 odd followers would run away once the army started firing. Eventually it turned out to be a disaster with deaths on both sides including devotees. Sikhs have not forgiven the Indian state in 2024 and even in 2100 and beyond this will echo throughout the worldwide Sikh community. For India it was a disaster of epic proportions with small gains to dislodge Sant Bhindranwale from the Akal Takht of Harmandir Complex. All the rumors of country breakup and Pakistani army entering India were unfounded rumors spread by Indian state to justify the attack. Pakistani generals had no wish or desire to launch an attack in India in 1984. They were happy with a disturbed situation in Kashmir and Indian Punjab.
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Badal akalis are responsible for this situation totally, they had complete mandate to turn Punjab around on the path to peace and prosperity but they focused more on personal wealth than state affairs.
Which politician is not bad?
Criticism of Badal is sacrilege
@@amanjha2144That doesn't make a politician not to be good.
What about your father Amrinder and Bhagwant? I’m not supporter of Badals
Shekhar sir knows about Punjab and Sikhs well. Please don't criticise his views unless you know about Fundamentals of Sikhs and traditions. They need to be understood to be able to say a word about it. Those not knowing Sikh religion should appreciate Selhar sahib for letting many us know about it.
Such a nice episode that Shekharji can openly discuss the Sikh religion spiritual administration and its intricacies to wide world through the media with great respect. Hope that he can do the same to other side also openly.
What other side 😂
Hindu/Sanatan side is not an organized religion/dharma. Different discussion. I don’t understand the Muslim side; it seems to have been taken over by congress party for few decades now.
It's good and bad that Hindu politics isn't as centralised as that of the Sikhs. @@Sachin-hi3sc
First time watching this. Informative for overseas Sikhs who have lost touch with what is happening in Punjab.
Still wondering how this is a punishment for ruining a whole state. The seva as a Sikh is a duty, can't be punishment. As a kid, and even now when I go home, I listen to kirtan for more than 1 hour daily when my parents hear it. Didn't know it could be punishment. Finally, the idea of toilet cleaning as a punishment clearly has casteist origins. Moroever, I can't believe that for all the things Maharaja Ranjit Singh did, marrying Muslim woman was the reason for punishment, keeping in mind the companion of Sri Guru Nanak Dev Ji was a Muslim by birth too. I am sure I am getting many abrasive responses to even put some counter to Akal Takht, but some things definitely need to be said. To me, this "punishment" is all a sham to somehow revive SAD, with Badals now operating the same way as before, just behind the scenes.
ਬਾਈ ਲਗਦਾ ਤੁਹਾਨੂੰ ਸਿੱਖ ਧਰਮ ਬਾਰੇ ਕੋਈ ਖਾਸ ਜਾਣਕਾਰੀ ਨਹੀਂ ਹੈਗੀ।
@@larcm3 Enlighten me.
Then you need to find and learn history
Cleaning toilet is the harshest punishment for Badal because this work is supposed to be done by lower caste, not by a self-respecting Jatt.
My thoughts exactly.
Many people confused that Ram rahim is a hindu. He is a jat sikh
He isn't a Sikh. He doesn't ascribe to Sikh dharam in the slightest
I think you needs to do a bit more research. Ram Rahim sent a letter which wasn’t an apology but a clarification. That letter was edited with Badal’s influence and word “apology” was added. Ram Rahim straightaway refused that he apologised to Akal Takhat.
Secondly, Ram Rahim introduced term “insaan” and asked his followers to use it as a surname. It was announced on the day he dressed up like Guru Gobind Singh ji. This incident provoked Sikhs. But you are saying that Ram Rahim called himself an insaan to clarify to Akal takhat that he didn’t try to copy Guru Gobind Singh ji.
Come on. Can’t believe that such a celebrated journalist is spreading false news. It is the problem with national media, they think that they know everything but their research about regional issues is half cooked.
agree 100%
This feels like one of the traditions which are sacred for those who believe in them and dated for those who dont believe in them.
Exactly
Not dated for Sikhs atleast, Akal takht is temporal seat for Sikhs.
Glad to hear akali politics is renewing itself and not becoming another lost cause family enterprise like the congress
If congress was an enterprise then why you dads and dadas voted them for power for these many year. Because they knew communals and arrogants can't run the country peacefully. Look at the condition of India today. No one respect us coz of 2 clawns sitting on top chairs...
Punjab is doomed..SGPC is ironically one of the biggest reasons for its downfall. Remember, although Court dropped the murder charges, like Shekhar Gupta likes to whitewash the crimes, Jagir Kaur was convicted of forcing her daughter to abort her child and keeping her in illegal confinement!! And she used to head the SGPC at some point! These are the power heads of Sikhism now. Her whole team including the driver, SubInspector Personnel Guard all were convicted and only crime they couldn't prove was the murder because the body was cremated and ashes disappeared for any forensics to be conducted! Fake evangelist churches are rapidly converting low caste sikhs with lure of money and travel to US/UK/Canada. Drugs and Chitta is slowly eating the youth in Punjab and most industry has left due to law and order situation, Crop rotation of heavily pesticide wheat and rice is slowly killing the land and turning it infertile and barren- just like the political leadership of once the great state of Guru Nanakji's Punjab. Wahe Guru.
The problem of Sikhism since the early 80s is : the Akal Takht has been held hostage to increasingly disorienting concentric narratives spun around : Miri, Piri, and Nashedi. From tolerating ( or turning a blind eye to ) co-operation of Khalistanis with Pakistan to redirect the epicentre of narcotics trade towards North India, to meekly capitulating in the face of pressure from influential farmers to lay siege to Delhi .. the corruption through "nasha" has become synonymous with the nasha of corruption.
4 decades of Badals and other elite groups shoving pious, ordinary Sikhs into a maelstrom of bad money, worse crimes and inducements to addiction ( the very worst ) have happened under the lazy eye of the Akal Takht.
Time will not be kind to the Akal Takht and it's practice of doling out indulgences. The power centre remains unchanged because the youth are being driven away, one suspects, by the machinations of the very people in power. And all they get by way of punishment for their crimes against their qaum is .. cleaning of latrines ( that too, a suspended sentence ? ). Kaisi teri khudgarzi, kaisa tera pyaar ? Where's the justice, yaar ?
Gurmeet Ram Rahim wore a dress similar to Guru Gobind Singh Ji Maharaj and even conducted Ruhaani Jaam ceremony on the similar lines of Amrit Sanchaar ! This was the main issue with him.
The only reason why India still a country with 70-80 crore poors, basically half of its population, and poor public infrastructure bcs we Indians gives vote on the basis of religion and caste and not on the real issue, such as, why RTO offices or gov departments in small districts are in pathetic conditions or why goverment colleges in small districts & town have degraded over the decades. No politician is to be blame for that, its us, Indians, who cant set our priority towards nation but towards caste & religion.
True, CCP propaganda literally uses Indian society as an example of what would have happened to the Chinese race without the communist revolution!
Its negative point view of this decision with zero knowledge about Sikh & Sikhism
@jagdishsharma4649 oh everything is connected to politics in this country. It would be childish to think otherwise.
@@Life.is.a.library But in this scenario not everything is negative because Sukhbir Badal accepts all his bad karama publicly now voters know how he makes them fool past times.
@jagdishsharma4649 its just to avoid more harm. Do you think his politics would have survived if he said no to these punishments. This is nothing new for indian politics, dont you know our country's politicians.
How come Binderwalle was not declared a tankayat? He made the Akal Takth his home. This is blasphemous and none of the gurus ever did that even when they were getting killed.
@ so you are saying the current jathader is staying in the akal thak?
@@MandeepSingh-di3hv in any case Binderwalle was never the jathedar of the akal thakt
@@MandeepSingh-di3hv He was not a Jathedar, but was living at Akal Takhat by force as he was fearful of capturing by security forces.
@@navjotsinghrandhawa5547he doesn't not done anything which is against sikhism
Iff babur make report on ram mandir he will also say there were terrorist inside mandir
@@navjotsinghrandhawa5547 I know he was Jathedar of Damdami Taksal, was invited by then Jathedar Kripal singh to stay in Akal Takht I believe to defend as Planning was done to attack Darbar Sahib in 1982
That was all drama, they think we Sikhs are fools, low level politics
Badal rule, especially during sukbir Badal tenure, has done irreparable damage to Punjab, from debt to corruption. It all started during his tenure and destroyed the state and can never be pardoned this punishment is nothing for these looters and destroyers of Punjab
i wanna say to scholars in comments section if you don’t know about akaal takt don’t open your mouth
We know one thing now it's full of shit
@ 😝😝😝😝 it is your thoughts keep it let them what their history says
The ruling seems to be concerned with transgressions of religious nature. Corruption and crime not in purview.
Calling it a punishment is laughable and an insult to not only the Sikh community but the Panjabi and Indian people as a whole. They have ruined Panjab and think cleaning VIP toilets and doing bs photoshoots is going to absolve them of anything. Panjab has been betrayed and pimped out by these charlatans.
Either they did all the things they admitted or they did not. If they did then the punishment should have been at least 2-3 months of toilet cleaning by each person including Sukhbir. How is 2 days of seva a punishment? Even I do more than that at the local Gurudwara without any punishment. Local devotee women spend the whole day cooking langar. Unfortunately this whole thing just proves that Guru Gobind Singh was right about Guru Maniyo Granth. I don’t think normal humans at SGPC are capable of doing justice soundly.
Cleaning toilet is the harshest punishment for Badal because this work is supposed to be done by lower caste, not by a self-respecting Jatt.
@@rohanch07sikhs don't have caste system. This system is started by you punjabis which will destroy our religion
It is advani moment of akalis...when advani said jinnah was secular and he was totally destroyed after that... similar with badals ...leaving real vote for tactical votes destroyed them permanently...
It's not to be compared with Advani or any other such person. Its the power of the Sikh tradition as set by 6th Guru Hargobind Sahib that religion has to be a guiding force in political set up. Religion is not organized one, it means the righteous path.
@@gvsingh8785 Having an extra-constitutional right to pass a judgment for punishing someone is not an "organized religion". That is exactly how Organised religion with Sharia works too.
First of all Advani was a real politician who came from humble background. He made the BJP. Whereas this badal is a dynast.
@@HeavenRacer422😂😂😂Advani real poli😂😂
@@manpreetmannu1428 bro. He literally carried a party from 2 seats to 182 seats. If he isn't a politician then what? He isn't any dynast. His family migrated from Pakistan
Hello Shekharji,I am hoping you will soon cover the imposition of Martial law in South Korea
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Cleaning toilet is the harshest punishment for Badal because this work is supposed to be done by lower caste, not by a self-respecting Jatt.
What BS. Sikhs aren't supposed to observe caste. Remember? But "jatt" power is so important to yall's fragile egos
@bhavawadhwa1852 he is a bot ,badal are trying very har to justify this and sgpc is totally under their influence, they are doing this to save akali party
But there's famous saying in punjab that-
Dinasours can come back to earth but not akalis
@@prabhgrewal22 Who is a bot?
@@prabhgrewal22brother...I hope you're right in the last line...but unfortunately, anything is possible . Badlas will give freebies and leverage some votes from Christians and voila - they're back.
@@bhavawadhwa1852😂😂 I can give thousands such examples for example THIRUPATHI is founded as a reactionary to casteist Brahmins by ANNAMAYYA (it so happens he goes against all Brahmins and educates his wife and she became first Telugu women poet and read his poetry he is very anti caste )…😂 but the irony is now Thirupathi is controlled by one Brahmin family😂(descended of Annamayya)
Dear sir, this father & son destroyed Sikhism in Punjab & father departed & son has to face the music.
Everyone gets to control their own Places of worship in India.. Except the Hindus !!!
Hindus are 80% in this country. A hindu nationalist party is ruling for the last 10 years. Still the hidutva dumbfs are crying a river. Itna khatre me ho to bhai bunkr bna ke chup jao or bahar mt ana kabhi.
Dont worry, Hindus get to control which mosques to raze and which fridge to invade.
Same goes to parliament where majority makes ruls and impose on others
What about that
Bez they are still busy in telling world hindu is in danger instead of united among each other
Oh poor Hindus 😂. All they get is violently tearing down other religious monuments & building their own Mandirs
Thank you for the update.
.. Very well explained 🙏🙏🙏
Whats the difference does it make, he has collected properties worth of billions . And now sitting like a wet cat.
Why does a religious council has right to give punishment to individuals? That's the bigger question. If he ruined the state ...the collect evidence on how he ruined the state and file in court .
Religious context
Mughals son like u always have objections to Akaal Thakhat sahib …stay away from our matters ..
Akal takht is sikhs biggest authority... sikhism was found 500 years back when democracy didn't exist . So akal takhat sahib has power to punish any sikh if he is doing something against religious conduct. It is only for sikhs , and sikhs follow akal takhat sahib's orders. It's religious concept .. You need to explore sikhism for better understanding ... and yes court in india cannot punish anyone for religious misconduct but in sikhism Akal takht sahib has this authority. If akal Takht sahib commands that 'someone' is now no longer part of sikhs , all sikhs will boycott that person . That's the religious power and importance of Shri Akal takht sahib. and yes for clarification , It's only for one practicing sikhism ..
@@RohitSharma-oh8qm not to every individual ..only to Sikhs …any problem
ਅਕਾਲ ਤਖ਼ਤ ਸਾਹਿਬ ਤੇ ਦੋਸ਼ ਮੰਨ ਲੈਣ ਤੇ ਅਕਾਲੀ ਦੱਲ ਦੇ ਆਗੂ ਸਜ਼ਾ ਪੂਰੀ ਕਰਦੇ ਹੋਏ,,, ਅਕਾਲੀ ਦਲ ਤਾਂ ਆਪਣੀ ਗ਼ਲਤੀ ਮੰਨ ਕੇ ਸਮਰਪਿਤ ਹੋ ਆਪਣੀ ਭੁੱਲ ਬਖਸ਼ਾ ਜਾਵੇਗਾ ਪਰ ਕੀ ਕਾਂਗਰਸ ਦੇ ਆਗੂ ਵੀ ਅਪਣੇ ਕੀਤੇ ਜ਼ੁਲਮ ਲਈ ਮਾਫ਼ੀ ਮੰਗਣ ਗੇ??? ਇਹ ਵੀ ਸੁਆਲ ਹੈ ਬਹੁਤ ਵੱਡਾ ਹੈ?
Who has apologized for large-scale targeted killings of Hindus in the Khalistani period in Panjab? Has Akhal Takt done it?
@@nv9991 whataboutery at its finest even on a Sikh video. What about the Muslims that were killed? What about the Christian’s that were killed? What about the Sikhs that were killed? What about the women in Manipur that were killed? What about the Kashmiri pandits that were killed? 😂
@@nv9991u should ask for apology from ur hindutavi government …who did killings of more than 2 lac innocent Sikhs nd few innocent hindus …
Who has apologised for the ethno cleansing of punjab? Who has apologises for the Hindi mandate in schools, so Sikh kids needed to learn Punjabi and Gurmukhi outside of schools? Who apologises for this inability for Sikh children to have an education to be able to read their scripture? Who apologises for the westernisation of punjab culture? Who apologises for the rapidly decline portion of uncut hair sikhs? After this the more important question is how to kids who have been misled and so far disconnected from the sikhi that was mandated and taught in maharaja ranjits time, who puts them back where sikhs were prior to all this British and government oppression? Who apologises for that?
@@nv9991 propg chnnl …victim card player …ur facist hindutavi govts done innocents Sikh’s genocide nd killed more than 2 lac innocent Sikhs in nd outside Punjab … nd killed few Hindus …ask ur govt to apologise …
All new religions have same kind of strict code as they feel insecure, same with Islam as these are new religions.
Just read about Hinduism treatment of Dalits
Manusmriti is sharia law
@@ayes1669 Hinduism treatment of Dalits
@@ayes1669but unlike Sharia Manusmriti has NO legal implementation
@ it has been used and juiced out by hindus to suppress weaker people….only now it has been criticized in modern times…. Akal Takhat also dont have any legal implementation…… The sikh himself comes with a public confession of his crime against other sikhs or humanity and apologizes to sikhs…. Most of the time it’s powerful people who get called here because of public pressure….
As Indians, shouldn't we all be held accountable as per the Bharatiya Nyaya Samhita (IPC)? Why are these Indian Citizens being tried by an Akali Panchayat? What message is that sending to the nation?
Indian nation came into existence 77 years ago while the Shri Akal Takhat Sahib was built 250 years ago. We respect Indian nation because our people gave their lives to bring this nation into existence, but you need to respect our way of life too.
@@JaySingh-gn2hx my apologies for saying this, but in this 77 year old nation, Sikhs are still thriving and growing in numbers and it because of the ethos of this 77 year old Indian nation. Look what is happening to Sikhs in our benevolent neighbouring countries. Hindu tradition has been in existence for thousands of years, in fact all other faiths are older than Sikhism. What happens to law and order when everyone/every religious group start holding their own Panchayats and meting out their own forms of justice? This is why as a nation, we have a single penal code.
It's not panchayat. Whe u don't knows about others then don't bark. Its the matter and faith of Sikhs. If u have complaint then go and file case in court
Does your school charge you according to BNS if you had a small fight with another student?
@@JaySingh-gn2hx dude ..I am the biggest supporter of diversity and inclusion but if a religious body circumvents proper authorities then it is a problem .. giving punishment is the job of courts ...not akal takht . And it's not " our people for this country " it's our people for our country ... Every freedom fighter from every corner of India is equal .. don't put them in groups. And no religious council should have authority to punish an Indian citizen..no matter which religion .
Well tried, but you guys always try to defame Maharaja Ranjit Singh , he was declared Tankhaya because he just went to a place place where ladies were dancing (mujra ) for the first time .He was playing role of leader in Khalsa Sarkar . Thats the reason .
I'm Maharashtrian and I don't give a damn.
If I were alive during maharaja Ranjit Singh's time, irrespective of what happened, I would have still joined his army, and marched off in the direction our maharaja pointed us to.
This ruling no matter how legal under Sikhism, is still extra constitutional. Tomorrow we will have to legalize pandits in Hindu temples sanctioning punishment...the concept of fatwa already exists in islam.
The last time they opposed the specially designed helmets for Sikh soldiers of the Indian army- for these guys their dictats are more important than the frontline soldiers life.
@@hogginarmocount9562you are right but the sikh in majority are zombies and won't listen to sense. The radicalisation is very high in this over rated community
@@hogginarmocount9562constitution and judiciary is baised like parliament and corrupt too constitutional is not signed by sikhs because
Article 25(2)(b) of the Indian Constitution specifically addresses the scope of religious freedoms and social reform. Here's what it states:
Text of Article 25(2)(b):
" law providing for social welfare and reform or the throwing open of Hindu religious institutions of a public character to all classes and sections of Hindus."
Explanation:
1. Inclusion of Sikhs, Jains, and Buddhists:
The explanation under Article 25 states that the term "Hindus" includes persons professing the Sikh, Jain, or Buddhist religions. This means that laws and reforms under this clause apply equally to Hindus, Sikhs, Jains, and Buddhists in matters such as access to religious institutions.
To prevent discrimination and promote inclusivity in public Hindus often been criticized by Sikh as undermining their distinct identity.
In india majority makes rules and impose on others
@@hogginarmocount9562stay away from our matters dude …see urself ..
@@hogginarmocount9562 We can have conversation on this , You need better understanding of a religion before making prejudices. Akal Takhat sahib has this power to punish on the basis of religious misconduct . One who follows sikhism and is a sikh , accepts the punishment. It doesnot apply on non- sikhs.
Listen it is very basic. Someone who follows sikhism and claims to be a sikh , must follow religious conduct. Something which may be crime in sikhism may not be crime in eyes of court , for example , cutting hairs .
If a amritdhari sikhs cut his hairs , he has done a mistake , and according to gurus he must apologize for it and get the punishment. Now court doesn't see as a crime , but religion does. Now if that person regrets cutting his hairs and wants to apologize and get Amrit again , he will come to akal takhat sahib and they will announce his punishment. Punishment varies from mistakes to crime. Like skipping doing prayer is a mistake and akal takhat may announce him to do 10 more prayers ..So that's important in sikhism to maintain the conduct.. Akal takhat Sahib holds power on sikhs , not on any one else The concept the power of Akal takhat Sahib is very important and of great respect. Even Maharaja Ranjit SIngh ji accepted the punishment because he may be the king but at the same time he is sikh and doing something against religious conduct is punishable for him as he is sikh. It is humbleness and respect to our faith.
Religions are based one faith brother. Like for example Beef . Eating beef is a crime in hinduism and even sikhs don't eat beef. Because that's our faith right? But maybe for muslims eating beef is all okay .. It's crime for them to eat pork.. It's all about faith. Courts cannot decide on it and in law it's not punishable to eat beef , but may be as hindu it may be crime for you to do that ... Such things are called religious misconduct. In sikhism , Akal takhat sahib deals with such issues. I'll be pleased to dicuss your doubts , you can ask.
Good episode. Thanks Shekarji.
This is no punishment for the political crimes Badal and his stooges committed.
Should waft board also be elected like this? All this doesn't sound secular but at least it sounds democratic.
It is only jatt Sikhs handing out religio-political patronage that's why deras like ramrahim are popular with backwards and dalits
It is democratic! The sikh selects our SGPC body
where is democracy? not in India. thats wht u guys were told from schools. Go to democratic countries like America, Canada adn then ask is there any democarcy in India or its disabled democracy. Afcourse u cant understand one good way is , is anything big that rules the country , in other words run the country is working the way u read in books of democracy chapters in schools. Answer is no, but those things can be experienced in Canada,America.
We got Independence but we forgot to fight for Democracy. In future talk has started, Indians have to fight for democracy.
@@ajitsinghrai8603 wtf are you blabbering about, Democracy in USA is utter bs, a convicted felon became President of the USA while the son of a sitting President who was also convicted got a blanket Presidential pardon for whatever shit he pulled for last 10 years, and don't even get me started on Canada, so if you truly want to lick westerners balls atleast pick some other countries as examples of beacon of democracy.
Have been in the US and India's democracy is with it's flaws just like theirs.
Thank you for an honest and sincere account
Giani Kulwant Singhs pic is Wrong Pl Corret it.
If any religious book is tampered , sacrilege committed , irrespective of religion : there vl b uproar.
Badal and congress are responsible for current situation of panjab
Very good 👍🙏🙏 and thanks sir news
Miri and Piri powers applied to the Gurus, not to normal human beings. The Jathedars key duty is to serve and administer the Gurudwara infrastructure and provide a viewpoint on religious matters where this is necessary.
Dont be andhbhakt, Akal Takhat represents Gurus takhat and Holy book is seen as living guru. Study about sikhi then talk and please dont mix ur or other religions to really understand sikhi and its aspects.
I am an anti Modi already so I will easily comply with your first point and not be an Andbhakt. But I won’t stop using my brain.
Tell me where in the SGGS or any other baani from the Gurus, it says that any Jathedar will inherit all of the Guru’s powers.
On the other hand, Guru Gobind Singh was very clear on “Guru Maniyo Granth” which obviously prohibits the powers you are implying from being inherited by anyone else
The issue is that a lot of people do “bhed chal”. If somebody told them the Akal Takht has the full Miri and Piri powers of the Guru, they say “yeah I already know that”.
I am not saying that the Akal Takht should not be respected because that is our Maryada and for the Jathedar holds some spiritual authority for sure, but what I am saying is that the authority of a Jathedar is nowhere near the same zone as the Guru. A Jathedar is just an ordinary person who in a good case may be endowed with some spiritual knowledge. In itihaas this has been shown to be true - we have had many very very bad Jathedars of various Takhts as well as good ones. Nobody, absolutely nobody ever in history had the authority of the Guru. When Ranjit Singh bowed before the Akal Takht, it was for a religious reason alone (read about these incidents if you don’t know the details) not because the Jathedar disagreed with his policies. Ranjit Singh was sovereign in matters of worldly policy such as which lands to conquer, who to appoint where, what taxes to levy etc.
Additionally, I am saying that the concept of the full powers of the Miri and Piri literally belonged to the Guru alone because the Guru reflected the Noor of God himself. Today in a democracy the Jathedars of the Akal Takht have some of the power of the Piri and perhaps it is time for the Quam to agree that the power of Miri power belongs to the CM of Punjab and the PM of India because that is who was elected in a fair process. Ranjit Singh won his territory through the sword and they have done so through the ballot. That was the way of that age and this is the way of this age and perhaps superior. But that is where Miri belongs after the last Guru.
You may have a slight difference on the latter part of my assertion, but as a Sikh how can you even dispute something so fundamental as Guru Maniyo Granth and not creating new Gurus by proxy? How can you even compare that authority of the Guru and the authority of a human Jathedar.
edisonbrain, You have done be-adbi towards Sikh panth. Apologize right now.
Really 😂
BTW, there is no concept of be adbi to the Quom it’s only to the Gurus (including SGGS). You are probably a Hindu and I would request you to not insert yourself in a religious matter even (and especially not) in jest.
22.34 Akali Dal is the political expression of Sikhism in Punjab. If the Akali Dal is going down, it means Sikhism is going down. Everybody knows that hordes of Sikhs are becoming crypto-Christans and the trend is not going to stop. Reason for this is two-fold. First, like Islam, Sikhism became a political religion wherein it is important for a religion to have its political suzerainty as well. This became prominent after Guru Govind Singh. After 1606, the political Sikhism was directed against Islam represented by Mughals. Political Sikhism got a new lease of life with Ranjit Singh's Sikh Empire, though it wasn't virulently anti-Muslim. Second, now the political Sikhism has turned anti-Hindu as it sees political power going to BJP which represents Hinduism as did formerly Mughals the Islam. Hence you see Sikhs voting for Congress or AAP and not BJP, though Congress massacred Sikhs in 1984. Also there is not a word against Pakistan from the Sikh quartes where Sikhs are persecuted and earlier who drove out and massacred Sikhs along with Hindus from Pakistan in 1947. Also Sikhs are so politically swayed by the Hindu-hatred that they never protest against Sikhs turning into crypto-Christians. The so-called kisaan andolan mostly dominated by Sikhs in being anti-BJP also reflects the same Hindu-hatred. Formerly, Bhindranwale and now Pannu Singh are the great symbols of political Sikhism anchored in Hindu-hatred..
Haha .. and you a Modi Andh bhakt .. anti-bjp is anti hindu..
bjp formed post independence and you equate it with your millennium old religion 😂
Very true...spoton...
@@psnatarajan6131 why not flip the logic and I can say Indira and Modi are anti-sikh ... be neutral in your approach if you want to understand nuances.. baki bhakt banna hai to bano
The sikhs of punkab have lost it completely , acting like talibanis. Couptaji and his sidekicks will support this ,madness all the tim3. Some one should point this out and ask them to come back to ground . enough is enough
Couptajis woll ne totally different if Hindus follow their old traditions.
You garland rapists, Sikhs stand for morality and justice. We are not the same
Very great salute to you
Listening to this, I feel I am blessed to be a Hindu and remain a Hindu. Just the concept of dharma and karma, which keeps you true to self, no other unnecessary blasphemy rules. Wonder how a santani sikh pant ended up like those mid-east desert cults!
And keep practicing jattiwaadd....well done😂😂😂😂
@@NoLove179it is the soft underbelly of Hinduism. Things are getting better. Intercaste marriages are happening, casteism will dilute in urban areas by large extent in urban areas in upcoming years.
Are you joking ...true to self....
True to self until someone threatens you. Then hindu seeks assistance from guru tech bahadur...dont forget many hindus changed their religion
Why there is no subtitles plz provide subtitles it's urgent q
Its law and order
Lapse at greater noida
Sector 16b
Ek murti
No police action
Local politcians
Surekha gupta,
Pratibha advani
Gundagardi
Wonder why the Akaal Takaht never declared Bhindranwale a tankhaiya !????
I guess you have not seen the complete video? Akal Takht is the place for politics and power so the general i.e. bhindrawala operates from here.
@@arindamkumar7725 because he is a saint
Akal Takhat Sahib declared him the greatest martyr of the 21st century. If you don't know, you can check it on google and anywhere.
Focus on your religion
We have declared modi a tankhayia. Very soon you will see his video too.
Wrong picture shown of Jathedar of Hazur Sahib nanded . Yes names are same but jathedar ji is another one and picture shown is of giani kulwant Singh ji a religious preacher not jathedar
Finally the sikh jathebandis took control from the badals! Sikh politics need to be reformed with badals aside.
Bizarre!
You don't know the founding principle of Sikhism
@gvsingh8785 If it involves such bizarre things, I am kinda happy that I don't know.
Maharaja Ranjit Singh is not the only Sikh Monarch. Get your facts right, Mr. Gupta. Also the controversy regarding the apology by Ram Rahim is that he never truly apologized but the draft letter was edited and that the apology line added on later on the insistence of Badals by the SGPC officials.
Who was other sikh monarch
@@Peace_keeper112Modi’s friend Amarinder comes from monarchy
@@Peace_keeper112Duleep Singh
Ram Rahim is a jat sikh. It's your internal matter. Don't blame others.
Wheelchair trick worked
Badals have damaged akali dal party so much that many sikh people trust congress more than Badal Akali Dal…. AAP has a majority of 94/117 MLA’s, the most in history of punjabi suba. Now, the competition seems to be between AAP and congress in Punjab….
It surprises me that it was the Congress that created mess in Punjab. Zail Singh as CM under Indira Gandhi as PM propped up Brindranwale to have control on Akhal Takht, the spiritual seat. Come 1979, for strange reasons as Congress was not in power then, Khalistan getting propped up. Openly Brindranwale did not support Khalistan movement. Then came 1982 when the Golden Temple were occupied by Brindranwale group with arms and ammunition, Indira Gandhi then PM ordered army action which lead to serious desecration of Golden Temple. This lead assas8lination of Indira Gandhi and massive killing of Sikhs that followed, eading to many Sikhs settling in Canada, UK and USA. Post year 1991 many things were under control, until recently Punjab as a state is going through different challenges.
@ congress did the damage and apologized and made a sikh prime minister for 10 years, even then a big population of sikhs dont vote for congress no matter what… this time those non-congress votes shifted from akali dal to AAP!!!!
@@ayes1669 a big population of sikhs dont vote for congress no matter what…
So how did congress rule the state so many times with a clear majority of its own?
@ 45% of state is hindu , 45% sikh rest is christians muslims etc
Hope sgpc will award him siropa and sukhbir badal will sit for protest this bandi sikh
He should also tell nobody was able to survive politically after got accused guilty bu akal takhat
Dear Shekar sir and Team Print,
I took ur membership since am ur great fan,but I am deeply disappointed by u and ur team , as no one is speaking about MR VIJAY political entry against all major ruling parties at all levels.pl tell its against ethos tat rulomg party in TN is controlling almost all industry from cinema to media ,how one big ruling party is nearing it's end because of dynasty.
FAMOUS QUOTE
IF AMBEKAR HAS TOLD ALL ARE EQUAL BY BIRTH ..IT ALSO MEANS NO ONE CAN BECOME CM BY BIRTH
These kinds of religious fundamentals make more people to leave it... ..
When someone accepts bad karama from his past life then these type cheap statements do not make any sense...
No one invited you 😂
Chal dafa ho
Classic case of Sharia or near about
"Naal kaat Dena" was shria law obeyed in ancient, under stood
Sgpc is a divine secular body! Sikhisim gains their strength from SGPC
Forgot Manusmriti 😂
@singharkirat right
Shekarji is defending all these stupidity happening in golden temple. Who are these guys to hand out punishment?
Jathedars of Akal Takhat sahib established by Guru Hargobind ji....
Court established 400yrs ago. When were your so called indian courts established??
Nobody is forcing them to accept the punishment, they are accepting it as they believe in the tradition, as simple as that. It is same like parents giving some punishment to their child.
There are two things, first the so called punishments are seva or service at gurudwara which other volunteers(sewadaar) also do, nobody is throwing someone in jail. Second you aren`t bound to accept it, if you don`t accept it at worst people will boycott you publicly that`s it there is no real harm done
@@mistersingh6470they are outdated .........with this logic manusmriti is older than your religion.....and Shariah is also older than your religion.......all of the above are outdated laws.......do they have AI , space program, computers, smartphone , internet?!
Muslims need to learn how to deal with blasphemy --- this is not an entirely bad way to deal of with blasphemy. What these groups do inside their temples, as long as they don't discriminate by caste, we shouldn't care --- STSJ should not be allowed
You have even problem giving respect to Sikh gurus while saying their names, you can atleast say “JI” after their names
He needs to disperse of the entourage and come as a normal man/ He shouldn't be allowed to exercise his power this way. Its all a show.
You reinstalled my faith in religion. I am always very spectacle for my on religion.
Is this anything less than a Fatwa ? Why we dont criticize all intolerant and barbaric practices in Sikhism. Its one thing to do voluntarily and another thing to do under a dictat
Go to hell hate monger …
what a circus
Please cover illegal disappearances and extrajudicial killings in punjab.
"Untill there is a process of cleaning their sins humans will keep doing it "~ OSHO
Seems like sikhism is just going on same path of brahmanism and islam where the clergy can punish people...
The religion has been like this from starting they just practised more recently. Akali dal was supposed to be an arm of akal takht so obviously they bound to take steps now. This is not even a punishment its more like symbolic. Not even close to islam mate. You guys wont understand
Sikhs grew by 8% according to 2011 Census (Half of that of Hindus, a third to Muslims)
Yet SGPC is focussed on such issues. By 2025 Census Sikhs would have hardly grown by 5%
Numbers don't matter in a democracy.A micro minority has an upper edge given the fact politicians leave no stone unturned to appease your community.
A lot of political BS
Ji lagaaake gall karro ... Guruaan baare
'Insan' suffix denotes people from communities other than Hindu('Ram') and Muslim('Rahim') are also welcome to join his dera.For eg Christians,Buddhists etc
This sort of Gurmeet Ram Rahim BS can only happen in India
I don’t think you saw world much, it happened everywhere and in every religion.
Just read about the origins of other religions.
All know that popes like boys.
Idiot like you only exist in india.
Until Akali Dal unite with BJP they won't be back to power in Punjab..
Unless the Akalis don't focus on conversion issue then there will no Sikh left in punjab and it will not be Akali dalat controlling,it will be the Missionaries controlling punjab 😂😂
Screen shot this and thank me after 20 yrs
Drama for votes.
Votes nahi melege Sir
This is a dangerous trend were a religious body is allowed to have a parallel governance. Badals shouldn't have succumbed to sgpc diktat. It's high time that government starts taking the threat from sgpc seriously and also think about dissolving the organization and replacing it with a moderate body.
Dissolve RSS and disband its members then 😂
@@shivfloydwhich state are you from?
@@shivfloyd Na they won't it was bjp in 2016 who emboldened the SGPC by agreeing to all their demands of gurudwara election process .The voices who make calls of disbanding SGPC are usually from the Right wing but they got no power and are often passed off as Trads and hounded out by their own political hindu brothers
@@mistersingh6470 why does it matter?
AISPLB is in making on lines of AIMPLB
Where is your evidence for that ? AIMPLB doesn't make people clean toilets or can't excommunicate Muslims or punish
You cant laugh at religion enough.
@@maddyc503 you can laugh at legal courts as well. Nothing different here.
@mistersingh6470 at least they are based on logic and not magic.
@@maddyc503 How is this magic lol? Akal takht summoned the sinners, asked them questions, they admitted guilty to all of them and then a punishment was met out. Do you have negative iq?
@bhavjotsingh3190 what is sin?
@@maddyc503 Crimes against the sikh community. Like failing to provide justice for sacrilege crimes, promoting and helping officers who shot and killed innocents, stealing gurudwara donation money for personal usage etc..... etc..... theres an incredible list in this case......
You guyz don’t give space to Punjab otherwise its most important state to discuss where minority is in majority and sitting on most crucial border… panjab make its own space
I hope Sikhs loosen their emphasis on hair. It makes no sense to have such strict restrictions on cutting hair. Character and faith should be the main focus.
Uncut hair symbolizes the detachment from public appeasement ie material world
You mean the SGPC? Most Sikh families today are unlikely to boycott someone in their own family because he or she cuts their hair. The SGPC was set-up to maintain the Gurudwaras and preach the religion hence they've got to maintain the purity of the faith. For them to deviate from the tenants of the faith becomes hard.
@@finehumanbeing3506 SGPC wont punish you for cutting your hair, most sikhs have cut hair today even who tie turbans have their beards cut …. It just a tradition thats it … you dont have to be a uncut hair person to be a sikh anyways
@patmclaughlin107 How does their uncut hair cause harm to you or anyone else?
Let me rephrase your words in a different context, hopefully it will help with understanding the ideology of keeping hair.
"hope governments loosen their emphasis on army uniforms. It makes no sense to have such strict restrictions on regimented clothes. Bravery and loyalty should be the main focus"
Now in this case, bravery and loyalty does not need the uniform, but uniform represent the bravery and loyalty to the country.
Same way character and fate does not need hair, but hair are expected to be the representation of a good character and faith
Did Gandhi family aka congress destroy golden temple!…….
you mean maino family?
25:23 jiske sar k baal aaye hi naa ho,kyaa wo moorakh vote kar saktaa hai???
Religion and casteism are everywhere. However, only upper cast Hindhus get a bad name.
@@alokgupta4200 Ye kya baat hui, koi discrimination hui kya yha casteism ki tarah?
Less knowledge not gud for brain
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Today, Punjab is ruled by a progressive Hindu political party called AAP. This party has a thumping majority in Punjab and is more popular there than Divided political parties like BJP and Akalis. The rest of the country should follow the lofty progressive ideals set by Punjabis.
I sense somthin in commen between this folks and Mussulmaans
When you have no idea speak less. Introspect your religion first who has been in reverse gears for 1000’s of years.
Yeah sikhi has alot common with many religions. Our Gurus took all good things fromm every religion and made sikh religion, for ur statements answer, well u guys all time work on stupid agenda that sikhs are hindus and now sayin we are similar to muslims, decide one thing bcs what i ever heard is hindus nowadays are criticising Muslims for no reason, but just to get feeling of their raj which is temporary. People who got Raj as a pitty without any real fight for independence after 900 plus years of slavery cant rule like a pro ruler like Maharaja Ranjit Singh and Baba Banda Singh Bhadur. All u guys can do is wht nowadays is happening total shit. No ethical ways to rulle bcs u guys never fout for raj just ruling bcs of population, no other factor. People who fout every time are under stupid leaders like Modi and Rahul.
Even 1947 was just on Punjab and little parts of Bengal and both are minorties and getting feeling of still living as non-independent and people who just did charkha and said show other side to get slapped from Firangis are ruling bcs its fucking stupid idea of democracy. And, we got only independence from britishers, fight for democracy is in the fututre. There is no democray just shaky aspects or little points or parts of democary in India. I call it disabled democracy. Educate urself and be a Human not andhbhakt.
@@jaibirkang5345And similarly when u do not have any idea, about other religions, u should also keep mum especially when your own religion is stuck in medieval times, which were even backward scientifically n spiritually than thousand years before itself
Check worse treatment of Dalits in Hinduism
A dalit jatherdar on Akal Takhat punishing an upper caste leader but your manusmriti punishes the poor people 🤡….. Your manusmriti is the sharia law
Recently , you have spewed venom against Punjabis and sikhs. Stopped watching you.
Your video clips become a little bit too long. Keep them around twenty minutes.
Funnily Shekhar Gupta forgets about BJP which draws it's vote base from religion lol.
Shekhar is not neutral.. he left NDTV because pronoy roy, Barkha, ravish were not pro-modi
By your logic if the Samajwadi party draws its vote base from Yadav and Muslims should we call it a caste+religion party?
It is Bhartiy Janta Party. Its not the Hindu Janta party, like the Muslim League or MIM or Akali dal.
@@nv9991 haha naive bhakt.. BJP is RSS offshoot.. your ill logic - there is no Hindu in BJP .. arey bhai where is Sikh in Akali dal ?.. wf logic
Everyone draws votes on basis of religion. Muslims votes congress/TMC/SP/RJD because of religion. Sikhs in jammu, Maharashtra, bihar UP also vote for BJP because of religion.
How this is an punishment? Serving at your holy place isn't a punishment. If they want him to punish they would ask him to fast for 2 days 😂
Jat leaders like Prakash Singh Badal, Dushyant Chautala, Sukbir Singh Badal and others sold themselves to RSS Nagpur BJP and betrayed the Jat community. Ch Chhotu Ram is an example of a Jat leader who worked tirelessly for the Jat community in undivided India which included Pakistan. The entire Badal family never let any Jat leader emerge and through their contacts in Haryana sabotaged the Jat community to help BJP. The Badal family is very rich with ill gotten wealth.
Is Sikhism only about Jats?
Days of jatt hegemony r gone in haryana and will end up in punjab also
Well the leaders who are discussed in this topic are mostly Jats. Sikhism gives respect to all communities irrespective of caste and in fact is the Indian religion which brought equality to oppressed weaker sections of the Indian society including untouchables and tribals.
My great grandfather worked with chotu ram. He supported Arya Samaj. He vowed revenge after bhagat phool singh (person after which university is named) was put down by ranghars. His followers played prominent role in 1947 retribution after Punjabis started pouring in after being looted.
Regards
Ab isme RSS kahan se aa gayi??
Chal o godhi media
Tu to bhag le khalistani
check the hindus thinking in the comments about our religion, that is our grade in hindu nation
You do this Canada and then check their comments........why you want to go back 500 years ?!..... don't play victim card......I saw more worst comments about Hindus on indian youtube channel in so called hindu nation.
Comman men done he killed by nihang but he is leader so everything is fine😂
ਉਹਨਾਂ ਨੇ ਹਰ ਦੋਸ਼ ਆਪਣੇ ਸਿਰ ਲਿਆ, ਭਾਵੇਂ ਉਹ ਕਦੇ ਵੀ ਇਕੱਲੇ ਦੋਸ਼ੀ ਨਹੀਂ ਸਨ। ਇਹ ਉਹਨਾਂ ਦੇ ਸ਼੍ਰੀ ਅਕਾਲ ਤਖ਼ਤ ਸਾਹਿਬ ਅਤੇ ਗੁਰੁਆਂ ਪ੍ਰਤੀ ਸਮਰਪਣ ਨੂੰ ਦਰਸਾਉਂਦਾ ਹੈ।ਉਹਨਾਂ ਨੇ ਆਪਣਾ ਰਾਜਨੀਤਿਕ ਜੀਵਨ ਦਾਅਵ 'ਤੇ ਲਗਾ ਕੇ ਸੱਚਮੁੱਚ ਇਕ ਸਿੱਖ ਦੀ ਰੂਹ ਨੂੰ ਦਰਸਾਇਆ, ਜਿਸਨੇ ਆਪਣਾ ਜੀਵਨ ਸ਼੍ਰੀ ਅਕਾਲ ਤਖ਼ਤ ਸਾਹਿਬ ਨੂੰ ਸਮਰਪਿਤ ਕਰ ਦਿੱਤਾ।
😂😂😂ਮੈਂ ਕਹਿਨਾਂ ਏਨਾਂ ਖੱਚਾਂ ਦੀ ਸਜਾ ਜਿਆਦਾ ਹੋਣੀ ਚਾਹਿਦੀ ਸੀ
Sikh nation knows who is real culprit behind badals ...rss is real culprit
Who did 1984, congress
Who ruined Punjab economy, congress and aap
Who they blame, Rss
Gazab ka logic😂
ha bc everything was dine by rss , Christian conversion also rss
drug menace also rss ,
huge immigrant problem also rss
water level to depletion also rss ,
so many sacrilege lynching and killing also rss
bc Sab rss karwa eahi hai ,toh tum kya jar raje ho ch##ye
You should stick to trucking lol
Lol even for your birth Rss is the reason
@@IamSuperman154Mrs Indira Gandhi used to ask all who came to meet her about whether she should send armed forces in Harmandir Complex and all told her it was a bad idea except Advani and some other BJP leaders. Eventually she agreed to Operation Bluestar after assurance from right wing Hindu leaders that she would get Hindu votes for the foreseeable future. Even the Army generals mistakenly mislead her when they told her it would be a short operation with low casualties. In fact a relative of mine Ranjit Singh Dyal who was one of the Generals overseeing the operation told Mrs Gandhi that Sant Bhindranwale and his 300 odd followers would run away once the army started firing. Eventually it turned out to be a disaster with deaths on both sides including devotees. Sikhs have not forgiven the Indian state in 2024 and even in 2100 and beyond this will echo throughout the worldwide Sikh community. For India it was a disaster of epic proportions with small gains to dislodge Sant Bhindranwale from the Akal Takht of Harmandir Complex. All the rumors of country breakup and Pakistani army entering India were unfounded rumors spread by Indian state to justify the attack. Pakistani generals had no wish or desire to launch an attack in India in 1984. They were happy with a disturbed situation in Kashmir and Indian Punjab.
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