HONDA 3.5 ENGINE TIMING MARKS SET UP
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- Опубліковано 13 тра 2018
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here is avideo on how to set thiming belt on a 3.5 honda engine.
this was donde on a 2004 honda pilot 3.5 AWD, But it also applies to odessey and v6 honda vehicles
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This brotha right here got any questions about a car let him know he got u help me alot thanks brotha
The best i have found! Thanks
Thanks bro I had a bearing blow up in the timing case and it took me the last two days to replace everything and this video helped me set the timing correctly. I thought the engine was going to be blown for sure but it’s running like a top now. 😊
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Also note that the top front timing was like 3/4 of a tooth forward on mine to run properly Idky it just is.
Thank you very much ! great help, well explained, good and perfect.
The baby's laugh is priceless!! Thanks for sharing brother. Greetings from Mexico 👌
Perfect!! Excellent and detailed guidance!! Helped me out 1000%! 👍👏🏼🙌🏼🎊💪🏼
Nice job Sir...................you got the style
Thanks for the video man!
Very helpful
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Thanks for the easiest video to set timing... helped me out a lot worked out great for me.thanks brother..
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Will do 👍
Excelent video, thank you very much, God bless you and wish you the best in your canal
Never use ratchet spanner to turn cams, it will snap and bent valves
I was replacing a belt on my 3.0 and with my mother just dying I wasn't thinking clearly but I put the belt on correctly then spun the crank one time which put the cam sprockets pointing down. I came back and looked at it and took the belt off and turned the crank with a ratchet. It did spin. I lined up the marks that were pointing down put the belt back on turned it one more revolution which lined all the marks up. Will I be allowed to turN the engine by the crank if the valves are bent?? I feel compression
Thanks you.. bro 1trllion time. I watched your video while changing my timing. I was sub pass the gear ⚙ mark and you teaching me a lot i iou big time. Buy u beer?😁
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Thanks for the video!
Thanks, great infomation!
good job man!!
Literally answered my exact question within 2 minutes...love it when that happens. Liked.
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Bien tu video compadre! Bien explicado y muy claro, una pregunta:
esto mismo aplica para el cambio de banda de tiempo de una odissey 2002? Y es necesario bajar el motor? No se puede hacer con el motor dentro del cofre?
Saludos!!
Claro es la misma aplicación
Y si se puede hacer con el motor en el carro!
Gracias por ver el video!
Ajajaja mano para hacer el cambio de la banda no hay que bajar el motor yo pienso que el lo hace así porque se ve mejor...yo estoy tratando de poner el mio a tiempo pero no lo logro
Excellent video .
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great video thank you.
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So perfect, and very clear! Doing this exact job on my 2007 Pilot tomorrow, appreciate it!
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Hope you don’t have too much trouble doing it!
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How about if the cams rolled a little how to I set them back in to the place
Ty so much for this. I only wish I had found this video 4 days ago!!!! Mucho Gracias
Glad it was helpful!
Good evening sir
Blessings General,
First off I would like to say, great video.
I believe you the only one that can help me?
When I was putting on the timing belt. The rear cam slipped down like yours did.
So honestly, I just turn it back counterclockwise and slap it together and it will run with no problem?? No bent valves?? Everything still TDC?? So I don’t have to go all the way back around clockwise direction? It didn’t seem to want to go back for me? Is it like a ratchet when I pull it back that it will click?
It’s 4:00 am and I can’t sleeep. Please if you could confirm that this engine ran for you and everything was ok with this project.
I do greatly appreciate you taking the time to make this video and if all possible with a reply. I’m restless.
Respectfully
Hey!
If that happened turning it by hand
You should have not problem
I guess just put it back together cause they won’t just get vent if you turned it by hand!
Thanks so much for replying to my question so quickly. I appreciate you taking the time out of your busy day.
So if I go counterclockwise, the cam pulley shouldn’t come loose? Mine just seems like it won’t go back maybe you made it look too easy lol thanks so much
Should not come loose
And any time
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After starting it up, my rpm’s seems a little low from usual. Bleeding the power steering pump seemed to raise the rpm. The next day, I got check engine light.
Codes: P0300, P0301, P0302, P0303, P0304, P0305, P0306
Misfire in all cylinders 🤦♂️
@@1eyerasta did THE guy in this vid give u baf info? I'm going through something seems like you went through right now and don't know
Which one do you set first???
How do you set it though, like my harmonic key is way off to the 1 and the cam...
Thank you
Thanks!
How do I find TDC? I barely turned the crack without the key in it. I don't want the pistons to hit a valve. So how the I realign the crank and cam at this point? Cylinder #1 is not facing up #5 is facing up at the moment.
By the way General we'd all be smiling if changing timing belt with engine out haha, just done mitsi V6 yesterday, the engine was in the car,
I know its a totally different story!
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I miss the 70's when you didn't need metric tools or special tools. You could practically step inside the engine compartment. lol Definitely had room to get your hands where they needed to be without being double jointed.
Ok group, I triple checked the timing before i started her up. She fired right up, but rpm's were around 2800 at idle. So I shut her off. Doubled check everything again. And realized that i totally forgot radiator fluid. Duhhhhh .... So i added coolant. I didnt let her run more than a minute, I was more concerned about the 2800 rpm at idle. Anyways i added coolant now she will not start at all? Any ideas why?
Quick question for you. I pulled my crankshaft pulley off, then pulled the lower TB cover off. The TB Idler pulley had the ball bearings falling out and was completely shot... when I turned the crank to line up the marks, the front cam mark was off about one tooth, and the rear cam was off by about 4-5 teeth. Can I just remove the TB, manually turn the cams the little bit needed to line up, then reinstall all the pulleys and belt again? The car was running fine, but I think the cam pulleys slipped a few teeth when the idler pulley let go.
Actually that will be the only way you want to do it resetting the time on it to make sure that you are doing the job the way it supposed to be, I will buy a new timing kit now that you are at it
@@GeneralMechanicGA Thanks, I have a new complete kit with water pump, belt, tensioner, pulleys. I just wasn't sure if I can just move the cams manually, but I see you did so I should be ok
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@@GeneralMechanicGA I replace the belt on my 3.0 2002 Honda Accord. But with my mother dying I wasn't thinking clearly and turn the engine one revolution by the crank. That left the mark on the cams pointing down, right. I came back a little while later and saw that and freaked out and took the belt off and turn the back Bank with a ratchet and it did spin on me. Then I realized I messed up. I lined it back up the way it was when I took the belt off and put the belt back on then turned the engine one revolution by the crank. My question is since it is a interference engine would I be able to turn the engine if something inside was wrong like with maybe the back cam bending the valves?
thayou brother
How do you reset timing mark on the leftbank if you think it's off
Thanks! Why when i turn the cam it spin past the mark? Thanks
Question. Timing belt snapped while driving. How do I get all marks align? Crank first then cams? How do I know piston are TDC? Gracias.
Well if I was doing the job
The only way to get to tdc is by the mark on crank sprocket
I would move crank first to like 10 degree before tdc then the cams and after cams are timed I would go back to crank and get it to tdc
@@GeneralMechanicGA Thanks, hopefully no valves were bent. Muchas Gracias.
You explain simple a ez
If my timing belt broke and i have bent valves do i just line up all 3 timing marks, put new heads on, adjust valves and im back on the road? All new parts of course🙂 ???
That is right
General Mechanic Thanks 👍👍👍👍
What is new heads that you was mentioning above? Could you please explain.
It's really tight...like no slack at all and I haven't pull the pin yet
What if the timing belt break?
What do I do?
Did you drop the engine to work on it? If so, did you do it from below with the subframe?
On this one we just dropped subframe down and did it with engine on subframe
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Good job thank you.
How do I get rear cam jump back in line w/ marks plugs are out had cam jump back can't use wrench binding going back
Well if it’s catching move the crank back a little just so you can move it back enough then bring crank back to time
@@GeneralMechanicGA . Tku
If i turn the crank over one rotation will the cam timing marks line up again ?
The marks line up again every time that the engine is at TDC
2 rotations, it's a 4 stroke motor so the crank goes around 2 times for the cam to go all the way around one time.. that's why the crank is small and the camshaft is 2x the size.. hope this helps
Good morning Gary's
what causes these to strip off teeth right at crankshaft only?
Who knows what exactly but is very common to see it happen
I think is the smallest sprocket that the belt drives on and is the one that drives the belt all along all the time
So there is lots of pressure from that small U bent of belt!
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Ok thanks
No problem
Hi can i rotate the cams to position can go right or left does it matter
It doesn’t matter as long as you don’t hit any piston
How do you know if it's hitting a piston
Do I need to take all valve off
Well its gonna get stuck if you touch a piston
Now don’t need to take valves off
Also if you putting engine in time without removing the camshafts off the head just rotate it to time and you will be fine
@@GeneralMechanicGA thanks
What happen if one of the cam move wen I m istallin the belt ,can I rotate back
Yeah just be gentle when moving
Remember you will know if its not moving or hitting something without venting anything
@@GeneralMechanicGA im very worry the left one moves o lot like jump so I 'll try tomorro put back on place, as long is in the marks shut work? Alright?
Edgar Gee yes 17mm open end wrench and move it back a little until its lined up with the timing mark. How did it turn out?🙂🙂🙂
@@kttangos2871 thankyou works perfect ,no problems
Never understood why they put a 1 on the timing mark on front head, or why there’s multiple marks in the first place,that’s bank 2 (cylinders 4,5 n 6) not knowing that one would think that cylinder one is there but it’s not
I'm doing this while in the car....slightly different ballgame
I done tried to four times while it's still inside pain in the ass
Good job
I don’t know you can see my comment I did exactly but the engine won’t star what I don’t wrong with… the engine light is on…
Wow, well that will be really interesting to know cause idk what you could’ve done wrong or what’s wrong with the engine itself
Best will be rechecking the timing after turning it
Of good start from there
Do you know this hondas engines very well??
I have a Question for you broo!
Need some help!
When you answer this
I tell you the other!
Thank's
Do it like this CU's I don't know if you will answer
Sorry I was out of state for whole week
But we’ll all I can tell you is that I do have some experience working on Honda engines
@@GeneralMechanicGA Gracias hermano. Tengo ese mismo motor en una Honda Pilot 2003.
Mi situación es rara y llevo como un año compartiendo aqui y fuera de you tube mi caso..
La pcm por una razón ovia para ella le está quitando combustible al banco#1.
-27.3% refleja en el short term al minuto despues de calentar.
Este comportamiento deja ese banco inactivo completo ya que le desconectas las bobinas todas a la ves y no fallan.. Pero el banco #2 está trabajando al 100% no puedo leer el short trim de ese banco pues solo tengo dos sensores para ambos.
Upstream y downstream.
Pero desconecto cada bobina y falla ademas las bujias estan clean.
Pero las del banco #1 están con carbón. En otras palabras trabajando con poca gasolina.
El voltage del sensor #1 fluctua entre los 0.945V y 0.7 algo Volts esto es mexcla rica.
En cambio el sensor #2 está en 0.035V y puede subir a 0.165 V esto es mexcla pobre.
No codigos...
El motor está sereno com si no estuviera pasando nada malo.
Se me vino a mi mente hacer una prueba y es esta:
Le desconecto prendido el motòr
Las tres bobinas y va fallando una por una hasta que dejo el banco inactivo
Y no se apaga la unidad..
La pcm entonces le suple mas gasolina al banco#1 y se mantiene prendida fallando no como el banco # 2 que se mantiene firme sin el #1.
Vuelvo y reconecto el banco #2 y mejora y cuando termino de reconectar volvemos a la misma situación con el banco # 1.
1 Catalistico
2 Map sensor
3 Coolant sensor
4 Termostato
5 Iat
6 Iac
7 Sensor #1
8 Bomba de gas
9 Regulador de gas
10 Spark plugs
11 Injectores
12 PCM
13. Ajuste de valvulas pues lo verifiqué
Y esta en especificación
14 Verifiqué el timing
15 Compresión en todos los cylindros
Parejo como Nuevo poco millaje 140.mil
16 Aceite y otros liquidos al cien.
16 Los Injectores los intercambié
17 Las bujias, las bobinas las intercambié.
18 desconecto cualquier sensor y la pcm lo registra con el check engine.
Todo esto que te he mencionado es como si tu estuvieras aqui y lo hubieras hecho tu 😁..
Se lo que está pasando.
Pero no se lo que lo está causando
Sé lo que estoy haciendo y he puesto esas piezas a pesar que sabia que estaban buenas.
Las reemplacé porque yo no lo sé todo.
Y escucho a todos los que quieren ayudar... Mecanicos o Amateurs.
Fui a la Honda y me dijo un mecanico que era la pcm por seguro..
Yo sé que es ella pero no porque esté dañada pero la reemplace y nada.
Ahh! Y tuve que programar la llave pues no la reconocia.
Suerte que tengo programador🙈
Voy por ahi y pregunto en los garages como te pregunté a ti.
Y me mencionan cosas ya reemplazadas y les digo ya las cambié.
Ahh pero vienen defectuosas tambiem.
Les digo: Las verifiqué...
Y mano nadie me da confianza..
Me dicen tienes que traerla y dejarmela sin prisa🤭
Increible.. Pero sigo adelante.
He aprendido lo que no te imajinas
Y sobre los fuel trims.
Todo esto me ha sido de provecho
Aunque tengo el problema todavia.
Hoy me llegó el sensor #2.
A ver que pasa.
Pues mano tambien noté que
Con el motor frio solo poniendo el switch le pongo el scanner y los Volts el los sensores de oxigeno son diferentes y por logica tienen que leer igual. El #1 está en 1.275V y el #2 sigue en 0.035V y descubri esto
Cuando quité el sensor #2
Ahora aunque no está conectado
El voltage cambió y estan parejos en 1.275V. Hoy me llegó y se lo voy a poner a ver que pasa.
Voy a limpiar la memoria de la pcm tambien pues tambien he escuchado sobre esto y asi empezar en zero..
Nada🙏
Cualquier cosa que se te ocurra
Sientete libre y la ponemos en practica
Pues si nó..
Voy a tener que conectarme con el manufacturero..
En SERIO🤺
Saludos desde 🇵🇷☕
Si le llego el sensor? Lo puso y el resultado?
En serio lo que me impresiona es el lean signal del sensor q menciono
Recuerde lean signal mean Engine running rich and rich signal a lean bank
El causante de una black spark plug to my knowledge es rich injection
Es necesario saver por que está running too rich
Deje le pienso y leo en mi trouble shooting en mi software y le dejo saver alguna idea!
@@GeneralMechanicGA llegué ahora mismo y mañana lo pongo.
Te tiro mañana..
Gracias te lo agradezco
What should I do if timing marks are off on front and Left Bank
Man!
Well no bank can be reset by itself unless you take the belt a loose cause the slack is needed to jump any tooth on any sprocket
@@GeneralMechanicGA yes I may need to take the belt off but can I move the timing marks to where they need to be manually by turning them with a wrench?
Can this be done without taking the whole motor out? Any one let me know Plz
Yes it is
We do it all the time, should be able to get it done in one day
Who is the seller/name who sell counterfeit Honda kit on eBay?
There are so many different stores that carries them
Is there away to get incontact
I thought you're supposed to turn everything clockwise direction not counter when he was turning the rear cam sprocket counter clockwise. Not good sir. Other videos up here advice to turn CLOCKWISE. I'm about to do my 05 Honda Odyssey timing bell. Otherwise good video but just 1 step wrong thank you
No lol, this is very common. The rear one often slips forward or backward. Just take a 17mm wrench and put it back in line👍
KT Tangos is right and Turning them 360 clockwise in this case would cause the Valves to hit a piston since the Crank will not be turning
Ok
Anyway I can send a picture to you
In need of help ???
THATS TOW DARK TO SEE ENNYTING.
Give you 500 dollars if you do mine on my 2004 Saturn Vue AWD 3.5
Somebody anybody lol...
They do must of the times
Just get you the right size wrench and move it back in to time and hold
Won’t be too big of a deal!
You should be good
@@GeneralMechanicGA I can move them with out the belt on only move it back to we're I mark it right
@@GeneralMechanicGA front one move forward a little and the back rolled a little back ??
Yes that’s right
But use a wrench or a beaker bar so if it wants to rotate on u you can hold it
Just be very careful and do not hit valves too hard!
You should be ok
@@GeneralMechanicGA so I get another person to hold them for me and put the belt were I mark them right ??
Thank you