It’s not as crazy of a thing as you’d think. Doing something switch for a many people is actually ironically easier than doing it regular for them. Like I think sw heels are way fucking easier than regular. Even more so, there’s people who I think that skating switch entirely is easier than skating regular.
HA! i never even noticed that i was flipping the board the wrong way in my trick tip. i also barely knew what the trick even was back then so i guess it makes sense, sorry jonny! :D
thank you! yes i‘ve been working a lot on my english too, which makes it easier for me to talk like i would in swiss german. it‘s still a lot of work but i love to improve my english :)
I skated back when muska was in his prime, and this was a trick that I could do in every stance...i think the key to making it look like the real thing is a slight frontside tilt to the shuv. And we must remember that nobody used the names "illusion flip" or "muska flip" back then. It was just the way we did hardflips and frontside flips back then. That's how it got listed in magazines, and skaters knew the difference between a real one and a hard shuv. Also, if you're gonna name it after a skater, it should have been Chet Thomas. Your switch and nollie versions look correct.
Hi i jonny my names is João i'm 15 years old and i'm from Brazil, want to say thank you to inspired me to skate and have persistence, i met you 3 week ago and you got me fascinated in skatebor, 1 week ago i went to a local skateshop in my city and buy my first board and im skating everday since than, when i'm skating i feel happy, free, strong ,brave i dont know how to explain that lol, 4 days ago i learned ollie and today i learned shuvit and fs 180 ollie (your videos helped me a lot ).you are one inpiration in my life and definitely my favorite skater in the world, again i wanna say thank you so much to introduce skate in my life. Ps: your music playlist is dope
This was one of my signature tricks in 1996 and i had no clue what is was called. Also did it with body varial. Was easier for me do do that than a kickflip
For some reason some regular skaters find this easier than a heel or kickflip I skate goofy so I'll never understand that. But I had a friend that skated regular that basically was trying to shove it with a varial and this is what happened. And it kinda became his signature as well. We had no idea what ypu would call it either. We just called it a vertical shove it.
This is great. This is how I learnt to pop shoves and I always thought they looked like hardflips! Once the board goes vertical it basically has to flip one way or the other, otherwise it lands grip facing down. So if it goes vertical it’s no longer a shuv and will be either hardflip/inward heel depending on which way the board goes. I think 🤔
When i started skating (around muska time) 5:55 this was a legit hardflip back then. Nobody could do it like they do them today. u had a better chance of landing the trick, when your board was a bit shorter, because u have hit your nuts so often :D my foot placement was so weird to get the kickflip rotation and not heelflip. man it was fun back then, now im old and too fat to skate xD ah i forget, in a game of skate it only counted as a hardflip when u have seen the complete underside of the board in the air (from skaters perspective)
@djmikka06: There were regular hardflips before the Muska flip became a thing. And the Illusion flip is about as old if not older than the hardflip. So I don't think you are correct. As happens with some tricks, sometimes it is just a trend of people doing Muska flips instead of hardflips etc. It doesn't usually have anything to do with people not being able to do these tricks.
@@PHeMoX I was learning flip variants around '93. 100% before muska I knew what a real hardflip was. Cos I thought i was doing them then it was explained. Anyone who says a hardflip is not a fs shuv with a clear kickflip is just wrong. It's ok to learn.
Go watch rodney do hardflips in any old plan b vid before muska. When muska got big everyone I knew was talking about how they were illusions or muska flips as we started saying. 'Oh that one went muska'. It was really common for people not to know Not taking away from muska. Dude was insane and a big inspiration.
100%+ respect for this video! Also, yeah, there will always be a healthy discussion about when a trick is a trick with a certain name. I don't think illusion flip always has to have a body varial. But that's fine either way. You're probably right, this time around!
Your nollie hardflip and switch hardflip are proper flips. The Muska hardflip era was a strange time. Most people didnt care if it flipped or not, they just liked seeing them with pop. Thats the reason why I stopped doing them, I knew I was cheating my way into a hardflip.
This is how I 'hardflip' with half flip or what I thought 15 years ago. Tight trucks really help. Looks really good with a late kickflip. Looks just like kareem Campbell special TH1. It's all in the ball of the back foot on the tail, outside pocket, let it go vertical.
Fakie frontside/illusion flip was my best flatground trick back in the day. I didn’t realize it was weird until seeing something here on UA-cam in the last couple years.
Jonny the time lapse of you learning these tricks is insanely beautiful in the background and really cool looking seeing the attempts progress. Nice work bro
@@JonnyGiger The two in this video I kept rewatching and couldnt tell if he flicked or not so I did a youtube search for a muska vid, and the one I saw he definitely flicked.
One of my favorite tricks, haters will call it what they want but if you can do it you know the difficulty in committing to the trick and the high risk of turning yourself into a human popsicle. Best advice I can give is be very light on your feet, shoulders prepped for fs rotation, very subtle upward flick, and jump OVER board.
Yes there is a thin line between muska and hardflips, well said! i started doing them when my pop shoves transformed into muska flips more and more and it helps to put your backfoot on a tre flip kind of stance! After some time they turned into real hardflips using the same stance
Thank you Jonny for all the cinematography, and all the hard work you put into making your videos and skating dog, you a real one, much love out here from Vegas!
Definitely a real nice nollie hardflip! I have a sw Muska flip on my Muska unboxing & a Hard flip illusion in slow mo totally vertical. The key to this trick is the back foot positioning which you scoop to get the pressure to flip it 👍🏼
I've watched almost all your videos. Over the years I've had a few favorite skaters. Andrew Reynolds, Rodney Mullen, prod, daewon, Shane O'Neill, pj Ladd, and so many more but this comment will be really long 😂 You're right there with the greats dude. Your skill level is mind blowing
Dude. Words can’t describe how fast you progress when learning a new trick! My jaw literally drops at every video of your’s! Please, please keep on inspiring the younger generations and keep giving a sense of awe to the old heads like me!👏🙌🤩🤩
I think it is ridiculous how some "youtubers" waste time making up the name of maneuvers. This is really an illusion. And I understand this trick perfectly.
Your back foot has to pop then slide out forward while your front foot guides the hard flip. That’s the part you’re missing, that’s why the toe is in the pocket for a pressure heel. The back foot pops flat and slides out, that’s what gives the smooth look of the trick as it’s all done in one giant smooth action.
for illusion flip, notice the board has to do a half flip to land on the wheels. when you do a pop shove it the board doesn't flip at all. pop shove it rotates 180 degrees horizontally. illusion flip still does a 180 rotation, but vertically. Since it rotates vertically instead of horizontally the board also has to do a half flip so you can land on grip tape.
As a muskaflipper myself....This was a good video. I wish i could have shown you the stance and saved you some time. This is the only trick i could have ever gave you a tip for.
Right on, good job! I think Muska made it look so unique because when he did it, his legs went super spread eagle and the board would go almost completely vertical. In any case.. Great vid! 🤙
the thing is, during that flip, the board is moving on two axes of rotation. as soon as, let's call it the horizontal axis, kicks in too soon while the vertical axis rotation isn't over, the flip tends to look like/ basically has the same rotation as a pop shove it. there is probably a certain degree of vertical axis rotation needed to happen in order to really identify the flip as a hardflip, if you wanne get real science-y about it. it is really a matter of spatial thinking and at what point the board flips in which direction in a three dimensional grid.
Can I add a tip? I can only do Muska hard flips. Back foot, point the toe, then shuv it out. Has a lot to do with the pressure, it starts to twist the board then when you shuv and release it, it will spin kickflip. Good luck!
I love the discourse this video represents. Giger: Here's this trick. Comments: You're wrong. Giger: I'm right and here's why. Comments: You're wrong and here's why. Giger: Ah, I see my mistake. Comments: Yeah, no problem. Not only does healthy debate still exist, not only does healthy debate on the internet exists, but healthy debate can happen in YT comment sections too. Such a cool community you're building here.
Years ago we used to say that the hardflip had to go through, or between your legs. Pause and compare at 8:46. You lift your back leg over the top - unlike Muska.
this was the first flip trick i learned right after a shuvit, it’s so cool to watch you break it down! i didn’t even think of doing it hardflip style rather than frontside flip!
Illusion flip is a muska flip body varial. And a muska flip is 'a' pressure flip. Not 'the pressure flip'. Muska found another way to do a pressure flip, where the board does a different move, then we know from 'the pressure flip', where the board does an inward heel rotation. Maybe there are even more than those two ways to to 'a' pressure flip, where we think of pressure flips as a trick categorie, not just one trick. And maybe we should even create more kinds of pressure flips. They are at least cooler than no complies. :D
@@TSUFinny its not where the board is facing, its the rotation... if it rotate in the wheels direction its a shuv it, if it rotates opposite the wheels direction its a hardflip, it it doesnt rotate in any direction in the X axis, its a perfect 90* muska flip
This was my goto trick back in the days. I loved how the board went up to stick to my shoes, such a satisfying feeling. Add a grab on a 3 stairs and enjoy the ride. Peace
Watching this was so painful for me because everyone in my neighborhood growing up did this trick! It's all about the backfoot placement, you keep the backfoot further back the opposite direction you'd place it for a 360 flip. You then pop the board completely vertical so that it does a vertical flip. Because of the position of your backfoot, it is going to flip in the heelflip direction SLIGHTLY. This gives you a lip to kickflip on and flip it over the other way.
I was doing this weird hardflip for a long moments and by watching our clips, with the homies we were like "wtf is this shit a hardflip or not" got my answer ! illusion flip woooow big up Jonny u make me love skate more and more every day !
This man really works for his money. Some you tubers just play games or act stupid but this guy really comes to grind and show he’s the best skater on UA-cam and that’s huge 👀
Damn bro, i really appreciate the effort u put into these videos. Skating is a very hard sports and requires a lot of dedication and discipline. I really like ur videos. U seem to be very sympathetic and a chill dude. Keep up these vids and keep up the good atmosphere!
We always called these tricks hardflip (except the shove its, those are shove its). Watching this video makes me want to redefine my definition of what a hardflip is and what's something else
you got it 100% right Jonny. Awesome video. :D this hard flip is approved and it looks rad. the back foot was the key. think it is easier with a little flick like on 13:21. the last hardflip was between muska flip and the usual hard flip. don't understand how some people say that the muska flip is an illusion flip. it is a clear hard flip.
In 2000 I discovered this trick and thought it was a hardflip. On a night of fun and tricks a "smart guy" appeared and said that it was a "splash" and not a hardflip.
I would say the 'Nollie Hardflip' counts as an 'Illusion flip' (it's more of an 'Illusion flip' than a true/real Hardflip) and the 'Switch Hardflip' is a Switch Hardflip. Also, the vertical Frontside pop shuvit you did previously is also an 'Illusion flip'. An 'Illusion flip' is any trick that spins/rotates vertically 180 degrees.
Nollie hardflip. Your first one is a beaut'. I didnt realize that there was that many hardflip variation. I love to see the breakdown. It wasn't too technical, Keep them coming. On another note, you should really check the Session Skateboard game coming up on Xbox and PC. They added primo slide last week. Im having so much fun !!!
youre supposed to flick a muska flip! exactly like u did in the first nollie hardflip. Just that somehow muska managed to do it without too much flick sometimes. To be able to call it a hardlip the bottom of the board needs to be pointing at least slightly upwards at some point, otherwise it would be a shuv it
my brain hurt until you landed the nollie hardflip. I think the muska is dangerous because to create the pressure to make it flip and spin correctly it has to initaially go in the backside direction
does 5:52 count as a nollie „hardflip“? you decide 🙏🏼 vlskate is the man even that this one thing was a little misleading 🙏🏼
Ye 100 %
I think it counts, also ur the best skate youtuber just to let you know, keep up the good work.
It’s a Nollie hard flip too me
Absolutely counts
@@yeetbot7699 same
Imagine being so good when you’re having trouble with a trick your solution is try it switch
Had the same thought
yep that was clearly insane! lol
It’s not as crazy of a thing as you’d think. Doing something switch for a many people is actually ironically easier than doing it regular for them. Like I think sw heels are way fucking easier than regular.
Even more so, there’s people who I think that skating switch entirely is easier than skating regular.
@@cheepasskid still, it's CRAZY to see someone do that when struggling with a trick
@@cheepasskid I land nollie kickflips 4/5 tries. Regular is 1/5 if I'm lucky. I cant explain it because I SUCK switch
HA! i never even noticed that i was flipping the board the wrong way in my trick tip. i also barely knew what the trick even was back then so i guess it makes sense, sorry jonny! :D
Soooo new tutorial??? 😊
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no worries, it was still helpful 🙌🏼🙏🏼 thank you 🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼
@@JonnyGiger Jonnyyyyyyyyy 🔥 🔥
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This is the official "apology accepted" button
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@@JonnyGiger hi
tell the factory the button has a spelling error on it.
@@joejoe2658 oh yes you’re right, I am sorry.
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“A wizard is never late, nor is he early, he arrives precisely when he means to.”
Nice one mir J. R. R. Tolkien fan!
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Thanks Gandolf.
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Apology accepted, those late flips were sick!
thank you! big relief 🙏🏼
Your content has come a long way, man... this new format is great, very natural and your personality shines.
Happy you’re still keeping it real!
thank you! yes i‘ve been working a lot on my english too, which makes it easier for me to talk like i would in swiss german. it‘s still a lot of work but i love to improve my english :)
@@JonnyGiger Your English is very good man, your personality comes out very well!!
@@JonnyGiger when you call it Swiss German your accent starts to make so much more sense!
I skated back when muska was in his prime, and this was a trick that I could do in every stance...i think the key to making it look like the real thing is a slight frontside tilt to the shuv. And we must remember that nobody used the names "illusion flip" or "muska flip" back then. It was just the way we did hardflips and frontside flips back then. That's how it got listed in magazines, and skaters knew the difference between a real one and a hard shuv. Also, if you're gonna name it after a skater, it should have been Chet Thomas. Your switch and nollie versions look correct.
Jonny, the way that you walked through every step of what and how just shows how Awesome of a skater and human being you are!!!
Hi i jonny my names is João i'm 15 years old and i'm from Brazil, want to say thank you to inspired me to skate and have persistence, i met you 3 week ago and you got me fascinated in skatebor, 1 week ago i went to a local skateshop in my city and buy my first board and im skating everday since than, when i'm skating i feel happy, free, strong ,brave i dont know how to explain that lol, 4 days ago i learned ollie and today i learned shuvit and fs 180 ollie (your videos helped me a lot ).you are one inpiration in my life and definitely
my favorite skater in the world, again i wanna say thank you so much to introduce skate in my life.
Ps: your music playlist is dope
Muska's flip over the stairset looks incredible, he absolutely nailed that slow flipping motion and landed perfectly
Doesn’t flip tho does it
I’ve always called this trick a hard flip when done vertical and a FS varial when done horizontally. Not stopping now.
I don’t understand why everyone is so critical when we all know damn well no one is even close to this mans skill level
You should be able to critique any person. That's how we keep them honest. Just because we criticize someone doesn't necessarily mean its negative.
@@samharris3508 agreed but some people were just went beyond just critiques
growing up skating in late 90s, this trick seems so not confusing , was just how a lot did their hardflips or fs flips :)
I use to argue with my friend about this. He did them so well thinking he was doing a fs flip But they're not front side flips😂
I do appreciate your honesty and persistence Giger, keep up the amazing work!!!
thank you! lot of work went into this one 🙏🏼
This was one of my signature tricks in 1996 and i had no clue what is was called. Also did it with body varial. Was easier for me do do that than a kickflip
For some reason some regular skaters find this easier than a heel or kickflip I skate goofy so I'll never understand that. But I had a friend that skated regular that basically was trying to shove it with a varial and this is what happened. And it kinda became his signature as well. We had no idea what ypu would call it either. We just called it a vertical shove it.
Jonny giger is such a nice guy. I would love to meet him and skate with him😁
lets goo 🙏🏼
@@JonnyGiger no way dude! I love your channel
@@JonnyGiger ayoo i will a learn Session with u
Im a 33 years old non skater also feel like want to skate with him. Shit, what am i doing here
Simp
A man of honour stands by his mistakes, owns up to them and seeks redemption.
You sir, have been redeemed 🤙
that first nollie hardflip was pure butter
This is great. This is how I learnt to pop shoves and I always thought they looked like hardflips! Once the board goes vertical it basically has to flip one way or the other, otherwise it lands grip facing down. So if it goes vertical it’s no longer a shuv and will be either hardflip/inward heel depending on which way the board goes. I think 🤔
This is great editing and filming! You lead the viewer step by step to the logic of the trick.
thanks! it was a lot of work for me to have this in a logic. The Trick was confusing already but have it explain in english was hard :D
When i started skating (around muska time) 5:55 this was a legit hardflip back then. Nobody could do it like they do them today. u had a better chance of landing the trick, when your board was a bit shorter, because u have hit your nuts so often :D my foot placement was so weird to get the kickflip rotation and not heelflip. man it was fun back then, now im old and too fat to skate xD ah i forget, in a game of skate it only counted as a hardflip when u have seen the complete underside of the board in the air (from skaters perspective)
amazing thanks for the input 🙏🏼 the game of skate thing makes sense. that sure did lead to some arguments though 😂
@djmikka06: There were regular hardflips before the Muska flip became a thing. And the Illusion flip is about as old if not older than the hardflip. So I don't think you are correct. As happens with some tricks, sometimes it is just a trend of people doing Muska flips instead of hardflips etc. It doesn't usually have anything to do with people not being able to do these tricks.
@@PHeMoX I was learning flip variants around '93. 100% before muska I knew what a real hardflip was. Cos I thought i was doing them then it was explained. Anyone who says a hardflip is not a fs shuv with a clear kickflip is just wrong. It's ok to learn.
Yeah this was how I did my hardflips too back then
Go watch rodney do hardflips in any old plan b vid before muska. When muska got big everyone I knew was talking about how they were illusions or muska flips as we started saying. 'Oh that one went muska'. It was really common for people not to know
Not taking away from muska. Dude was insane and a big inspiration.
100%+ respect for this video! Also, yeah, there will always be a healthy discussion about when a trick is a trick with a certain name. I don't think illusion flip always has to have a body varial. But that's fine either way. You're probably right, this time around!
true 🙏🏼
Your nollie hardflip and switch hardflip are proper flips. The Muska hardflip era was a strange time. Most people didnt care if it flipped or not, they just liked seeing them with pop. Thats the reason why I stopped doing them, I knew I was cheating my way into a hardflip.
This is how I 'hardflip' with half flip or what I thought 15 years ago. Tight trucks really help. Looks really good with a late kickflip. Looks just like kareem Campbell special TH1. It's all in the ball of the back foot on the tail, outside pocket, let it go vertical.
haha i actually been thinking about tightening the trucks but i forgot about it.
giger: p-rod, come over! nollie hardflip
p-rod: next battle at the berrics?
Fakie frontside/illusion flip was my best flatground trick back in the day. I didn’t realize it was weird until seeing something here on UA-cam in the last couple years.
This is what I love about Johnny Giger, he always cleans up his tricks and is determined to land it somewhat clean
Jonny the time lapse of you learning these tricks is insanely beautiful in the background and really cool looking seeing the attempts progress. Nice work bro
You nailed it! Board flips up in between your legs and your back leg has to extend back to let the board through and then come forward to land.
I've been skating for years and never really understood this trick. Great explanation!
I've always flicked my "illusion flip". I still call it a hardflip. Edit: I went back and watched, and Muska definitely flicked his hardflips.
i don‘t see a flick on the two examples on 2:28-2:30. i found one that is slightly flicked though.
@@JonnyGiger Let me rephrase. He definitely flicked some of his hardflips.
@@JonnyGiger The two in this video I kept rewatching and couldnt tell if he flicked or not so I did a youtube search for a muska vid, and the one I saw he definitely flicked.
@Nillass True, definitely nothing like you would flick a kickflip. It wasnt meant to criticize Jonny in any way. He's one of my favorite skaters.
One of my favorite tricks, haters will call it what they want but if you can do it you know the difficulty in committing to the trick and the high risk of turning yourself into a human popsicle. Best advice I can give is be very light on your feet, shoulders prepped for fs rotation, very subtle upward flick, and jump OVER board.
Yes there is a thin line between muska and hardflips, well said! i started doing them when my pop shoves transformed into muska flips more and more and it helps to put your backfoot on a tre flip kind of stance! After some time they turned into real hardflips using the same stance
thanks for this extra info 🙏🏼 its always inspiring how people learned tricks :)
luv the vids, luv ur humility, luv ur dedication, luv ur luv of sk8ing...........thanks for existing JG, MUCH LOVE
thanks for the support! glad you like my videos! 🙏🏼
Thank you Jonny for all the cinematography, and all the hard work you put into making your videos and skating dog, you a real one, much love out here from Vegas!
THE FIRST 10 MINUTES = the most beautiful INWARD KICKFLIPS - I - have - ever - seen!!
Jonny got the deepest bag of flip tricks of all time, no doubt.
it's crazy that for so long I could do a trick johnny couldnt. props on coming back to it!
Definitely a real nice nollie hardflip! I have a sw Muska flip on my Muska unboxing & a Hard flip illusion in slow mo totally vertical. The key to this trick is the back foot positioning which you scoop to get the pressure to flip it 👍🏼
I've watched almost all your videos. Over the years I've had a few favorite skaters. Andrew Reynolds, Rodney Mullen, prod, daewon, Shane O'Neill, pj Ladd, and so many more but this comment will be really long 😂 You're right there with the greats dude. Your skill level is mind blowing
Dude. Words can’t describe how fast you progress when learning a new trick! My jaw literally drops at every video of your’s! Please, please keep on inspiring the younger generations and keep giving a sense of awe to the old heads like me!👏🙌🤩🤩
I think it is ridiculous how some "youtubers" waste time making up the name of maneuvers. This is really an illusion. And I understand this trick perfectly.
4:57 just a lil flawless flip as a reminder he still a pro ;) keep up the good work Jonny!!! love from México
Your back foot has to pop then slide out forward while your front foot guides the hard flip. That’s the part you’re missing, that’s why the toe is in the pocket for a pressure heel. The back foot pops flat and slides out, that’s what gives the smooth look of the trick as it’s all done in one giant smooth action.
The way you handled that mistake is examplary. It shows your incredible character !
for illusion flip, notice the board has to do a half flip to land on the wheels. when you do a pop shove it the board doesn't flip at all. pop shove it rotates 180 degrees horizontally. illusion flip still does a 180 rotation, but vertically. Since it rotates vertically instead of horizontally the board also has to do a half flip so you can land on grip tape.
As a muskaflipper myself....This was a good video. I wish i could have shown you the stance and saved you some time. This is the only trick i could have ever gave you a tip for.
Jonny Giger is the best skater ever
Can we please cherrish that this video is 13:37 long?
Absolute pro!
Right on, good job!
I think Muska made it look so unique because when he did it, his legs went super spread eagle and the board would go almost completely vertical. In any case.. Great vid! 🤙
That’s how I hard flip and frontside flip. Than again I grew up watching muska.
I watch all your UA-cam clips Jonny! Some of the things I see on your channel should come with a physics book!
Dang those late flips were rawww
thank u 🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼
Thanks for the clarification Jonny!
I love your content. Screw the haters, 99% of them likely can’t kick flip. Super inspirational and positive channel.
the thing is, during that flip, the board is moving on two axes of rotation. as soon as, let's call it the horizontal axis, kicks in too soon while the vertical axis rotation isn't over, the flip tends to look like/ basically has the same rotation as a pop shove it. there is probably a certain degree of vertical axis rotation needed to happen in order to really identify the flip as a hardflip, if you wanne get real science-y about it. it is really a matter of spatial thinking and at what point the board flips in which direction in a three dimensional grid.
Can I add a tip? I can only do Muska hard flips. Back foot, point the toe, then shuv it out. Has a lot to do with the pressure, it starts to twist the board then when you shuv and release it, it will spin kickflip. Good luck!
I love the discourse this video represents.
Giger: Here's this trick.
Comments: You're wrong.
Giger: I'm right and here's why.
Comments: You're wrong and here's why.
Giger: Ah, I see my mistake.
Comments: Yeah, no problem.
Not only does healthy debate still exist, not only does healthy debate on the internet exists, but healthy debate can happen in YT comment sections too. Such a cool community you're building here.
Years ago we used to say that the hardflip had to go through, or between your legs. Pause and compare at 8:46. You lift your back leg over the top - unlike Muska.
this was the first flip trick i learned right after a shuvit, it’s so cool to watch you break it down! i didn’t even think of doing it hardflip style rather than frontside flip!
What’s ur best tip for it
best personal skate content on youtube.
Ive been trying to figure out the difference between these two flips since 2000.. Thank you for finally clarifying!
Do never have an appointment with Jonny.
He is always LATE.
This trick without the body varial is one of the first tricks i learned and i had no idea what it was or had ever seen anyone else do it
Bro you are the UA-cam flat ground/technical skate goat 🐐. Nice work keep up the great content 👍
next up is the 'no board flip'
We love watching you do tricks that a lot of tries Johnny!
Illusion flip is a muska flip body varial. And a muska flip is 'a' pressure flip. Not 'the pressure flip'. Muska found another way to do a pressure flip, where the board does a different move, then we know from 'the pressure flip', where the board does an inward heel rotation. Maybe there are even more than those two ways to to 'a' pressure flip, where we think of pressure flips as a trick categorie, not just one trick. And maybe we should even create more kinds of pressure flips. They are at least cooler than no complies. :D
Love your videos Jonny. I watch them all the time with my viewers. Cheers! :)
I love watching you skate and learn new tricks even as a pro, you are inspiration
Amazing channel, I'm an ultimate noob skater but its amazing to see these tricks broken down
This is one of those vids that really shows off the science behind skating. Keep rockin on jonny
Man I wish I had the ability to unlock tricks like Jonny Giger. But I guess available spots to go to everyday helps too.
that was a legit muska flip. if anyone still calls that a pop shuv then they're just a skater hater
a skhater ? :p
if the bottom of the board isnt facing up enough its a shuv it
@@TSUFinny its not where the board is facing, its the rotation... if it rotate in the wheels direction its a shuv it, if it rotates opposite the wheels direction its a hardflip, it it doesnt rotate in any direction in the X axis, its a perfect 90* muska flip
Its basically a very sketchy pop shuvit lol
@@Kazperian the wheels are fuckin round how am supposed to know what direction its going in with this explanation 😂
Always love seeing a new vid posted!
This was my goto trick back in the days. I loved how the board went up to stick to my shoes, such a satisfying feeling. Add a grab on a 3 stairs and enjoy the ride.
Peace
Watching this was so painful for me because everyone in my neighborhood growing up did this trick! It's all about the backfoot placement, you keep the backfoot further back the opposite direction you'd place it for a 360 flip. You then pop the board completely vertical so that it does a vertical flip. Because of the position of your backfoot, it is going to flip in the heelflip direction SLIGHTLY. This gives you a lip to kickflip on and flip it over the other way.
I was doing this weird hardflip for a long moments and by watching our clips, with the homies we were like "wtf is this shit a hardflip or not"
got my answer ! illusion flip woooow
big up Jonny u make me love skate more and more every day !
This man really works for his money. Some you tubers just play games or act stupid but this guy really comes to grind and show he’s the best skater on UA-cam and that’s huge 👀
6:18 yes, it was exactly nollie hardflip
Damn, I never realized til now that Muska was doing switch muska flips in that clip at 12:25. So sick.
Damn bro, i really appreciate the effort u put into these videos. Skating is a very hard sports and requires a lot of dedication and discipline. I really like ur videos. U seem to be very sympathetic and a chill dude. Keep up these vids and keep up the good atmosphere!
Please keep going, u motivate me to start skating again! And i just fw ur vids heavy
your just missing the spread legs after the pop. keep doing it switch looks mad bro.
We always called these tricks hardflip (except the shove its, those are shove its). Watching this video makes me want to redefine my definition of what a hardflip is and what's something else
hmmm seems like normal pop shov it to me, loved your late flips as excuse, man you do not need to excuse for no one, you are a legend!
you got it 100% right Jonny. Awesome video. :D this hard flip is approved and it looks rad. the back foot was the key. think it is easier with a little flick like on 13:21. the last hardflip was between muska flip and the usual hard flip. don't understand how some people say that the muska flip is an illusion flip. it is a clear hard flip.
Very cool and apology accepted.. by the way, your nollie and switch hardflips were beautiful
Was never a big fan of this trick, but you got it nailed down.
Happy to see your hitting the pop shove problem as well
Giger vid...fastest click ever, sorry Braille guys! I’ll come back to you when this bit of magic is done 😂👍🏻
Yo I literally did the same jajaja
thank you! 🙏🏼
did youtube stop recommending scientology ads from braille? I might watch again..
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yooo your so raw! and the dedication you have to landing tricks is soooo crazy!! thank u
Yes, one of my favourite skater talking about one of my favourite tricks
You should try doing a monster flip and when the board is upside down lateflip (under, kick, or heel). That would be a super cool trick.
In 2000 I discovered this trick and thought it was a hardflip. On a night of fun and tricks a "smart guy" appeared and said that it was a "splash" and not a hardflip.
I would say the 'Nollie Hardflip' counts as an 'Illusion flip' (it's more of an 'Illusion flip' than a true/real Hardflip) and the 'Switch Hardflip' is a Switch Hardflip. Also, the vertical Frontside pop shuvit you did previously is also an 'Illusion flip'. An 'Illusion flip' is any trick that spins/rotates vertically 180 degrees.
Nollie hardflip. Your first one is a beaut'. I didnt realize that there was that many hardflip variation. I love to see the breakdown. It wasn't too technical, Keep them coming. On another note, you should really check the Session Skateboard game coming up on Xbox and PC. They added primo slide last week. Im having so much fun !!!
youre supposed to flick a muska flip! exactly like u did in the first nollie hardflip. Just that somehow muska managed to do it without too much flick sometimes. To be able to call it a hardlip the bottom of the board needs to be pointing at least slightly upwards at some point, otherwise it would be a shuv it
Muska flips don’t have any flick. Finally found a trick I can do that Jonny was struggling with. The last one with the body varial was it!
my brain hurt until you landed the nollie hardflip. I think the muska is dangerous because to create the pressure to make it flip and spin correctly it has to initaially go in the backside direction
Is...is that the hyrule hystoria I see? Ah, a man of culture..