C. Baxter Kruger / Christ In You!
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- Опубліковано 21 сер 2024
- Union, the gospel according to John, the nature of delusion, everlasting mercy, early church fathers and mothers, the always good nature of God, a prophet in his hometown desperation, the wrath of God, hell, freedom, salvation, holiness, the Fatherhood of God before creation, the incarnation, a prophet in his home town, the cloud of witnesses, the all-inclusive vicarious humanity of Jesus, the good Shepherd, in this conversation Baxter reveals the gospel as very good news-Christ in you! Plus, crawfish tacos!
The learn more about Baxter go to:
www.perichoresis.org
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Baxter is the guy who helped me rethink everything and find relief from toxic theology. Great 👍
He has been provided language and context for so much of my journey - so thankful for him!
Oneness...encompasses people in all realms...beautiful!
The frequency of generations reverbarating through the earth!
Well, this conversation has opened more clearly what the delusion is that I have lived all my life until this past year. I have been asking God to show me if there were others on this path in my state of North Carolina. I am thrilled to have this podcast show up in my UA-cam feed this week. I will be watching to see when Baxter comes to Charlotte. I live in the Triangle, so I am not too far to participate in meetings. Thank you, guys, for making this GOOD NEWS available. For the first time in my life of 70-plus years, I can call the Gospel GOOD NEWS!
We're here, in NC, awakening and growing sure :) We'll let folks know about a Baxter visit if/when it happens!
BAXTER. This man is a poet! His books "Jesus & the Undoing of Adam", "The Great Dance", & "The Shack Revisited" were incredible life changing books. His writing style is so poetic & full of life. I think he is a great speaker but an even BETTER writer. He communicates with power & love through written word.
Yes and Amen - he's an incredible communicator!
I am so in!
Cried and laughed and walked and sat and soaked this whole thing in!
Thank you guys so much!
Set a date, so we can mark our calendars!
Felt the same way - and we're looking at some dates now. Will let everyone know ASAP!
Oh wow. I’ve listened to Baxter for years now but that was just wonderful. I loved that it was more than just theology.
It was like Jesus just sat down and organically engaged in the conversation. Obviously He did!!!! 👍😂❤️
Cheers team…
Loved every second of this conversation. From the deep end goodness of union to bass fishing!
Hey I dont know if you guys have heard of Bruce Wauchope but I think Baxter is close friends with him. He would be awesome to have on the pod.
I've tried to connect with him a few times over the years - but Baxter gave us his email - so say a prayer haha!
@@JasonClarkIS-youtube awesome. Hes such a mysterious figure haha there isn't much info out there on him but the vids I've seen of him make me wonder who this guy is and why isn't he more known?! He has such a unique perspective that we need to hear. And plus he's an Aussie so he's a good laugh. Hope you get him on one day
, please invite him over!!! 🎉I would love to hear an interview with him on your platform❤
😊
Bruce is wonderful! A medical doctor as well as theologian He has a great series on UA-cam. Please look him up!
The Shack is The Best I've ever read or watched!!!❤
So good!
ua-cam.com/video/NkcXlkLTEIs/v-deo.html
Thank you for this talk ! It changes everything!❤
Yes, it does!
Absolutely LOVE this conversation! ❤
Me too!!
Teacher teach, well done my brothers. (God was in Christ on the cross) Love +love = healing 🦋
Amen.
Derrick said it perfectly, you can't unsee this. Thank you for making this interview happen.
Amen!
This was super special- loved the way y’all wrapped it up. Love the joy the Lord has for us 🙏🏼
I am so thankful for Baxter! I also loved the wrap up. Since this conversation, I've actually had crawfish with him - awesome!
This, this part is all hope!!!!! Thank you Baxter
Ha, amen!
Excellent podcast. Funny , in formative, and passionately loving God. ❤
Loved this conversation!
Listening a second time and decided to use this for the teaching and discussion time tomorrow at Worship in the Cloud. Metanoia, mind expanding conversation here ❤😊❤❤
Wonderful! Loved this conversation, so much grace and life on Baxters words!
So I listen to this whole interview yesterday then pause it unfortunately I wake up for work this morning on pause it right at the part where we're talking about crawfish tacos and Baxter's description has me starving at 5:00 a.m. with nothing I can do about it😭
Haha, can't help you with that. Hope you have found something to satisfy your hunger since then!
@@JasonClarkIS-youtube we most certainly had tacos that evening
haha, perfect! @@allenbergeron7263
Love this man and you guys of course!
He's pretty awesome :)
1:33…assess no situation as if Jesus is absent or as if He’s not good….🤯THATS IT! SO GOOD!
Ha, AMEN!!!
Can you guys pray for me for healing in my brain and all body systems?
Praying wholeness, abundant life, healing in you brain and a great revelation of our Fathers kindness and affection over you tonight.
Oh my Lord, I still don’t have a clue! Help me in my persistent delusions! So good. Guys could we have a list of some of these books and authors, most of whom I’ve not heard of perhaps?
We mentioned a lot of books (Baxter mentioned) I am only aware of a few and read even less. I know we mentioned several of Baxter books (see following paragraph for link). We also talked about George MacDonald Unspoken Sermons. Heres a link for that www.amazon.com/Unspoken-Sermons-COMPLETE-UNABRIDGED-Classics/dp/1539182886/ref=pd_bxgy_d_sccl_2/144-9510675-3747232?pd_rd_w=Bo8R7&content-id=amzn1.sym.7746dde5-5539-43d2-b75f-28935d70f100&pf_rd_p=7746dde5-5539-43d2-b75f-28935d70f100&pf_rd_r=HPJSBW79N5GZ00XRGGEQ&pd_rd_wg=tPfdl&pd_rd_r=0ba8548b-f5f9-4fa2-ae77-bf229de0d33c&pd_rd_i=1539182886&psc=1
Otherwise, I'd spend some time on Baxter site and follow him more closely. He is always mentioning books. perichoresis.org/
For me, Eastern Orthodox Theology holds all of the Cosmic Wonder that the early Fathers articulated.
I've never, in my personal Christian life, been "under" Augustinian and Calvinistic thinking though, but I can see how people like Torrence are a breath of fresh air for people who have been; but still, deterministically minded Reformed are working from a very different premise than the Greek Fathers were. They, through their view of divine and human freedom, held to - synergism - and not something similar to reformed compatibilism... and also a very different view of Predestination and Providence in general that Augustine introduced.
We must be careful to see that universalism is the opposite side of the same coin as exhaustive divine determinism... i. e, God gets what He wants done (in the end) regardless of human freedom (which is ultimately illusory from our perspective within the Calvinistic paradigm).
Yes of course we can never be separate from Christ who upholds all reality, but we very definitely can be relationally separated from Him through sinful acts born from an unregenerate nature which affects our state of being... and yes it is His incarnation which defied our collective human nature... But it now deifies our humanity through cooperation X But we must - individually - personally - as unique "Persons" apply what He achieved within Himself, as we abide in Him, and He in us.
"enter by the narrow gate"
Glory!
Ha, good thoughts here!
I love how Jesus walks us through union and how the delusion of separation works.
“The eye is the lamp of the body. If your eyes are healthy, your whole body will be full of light. But if your eyes are unhealthy, your whole body will be full of darkness. If then the light within you is darkness, how great is that darkness!" Matthew 6:23-24
The light is always within you, it's the lens we see/think through that is the problem.
Thankful Jesus' cruciform greater love is the "healthy" lens that sets us free to discover the light within :)
@@JasonClarkIS-youtube
Bless ya ✌️ Greetings from the U.K
(just my thoughts, I'm not Orthodox myself but I'm greatly nourished by that tradition)
Yes, the eye of the Soul, the Heart, the "Nous" is where Christ desires to "dwell" ("known" as Lord, as brother, friend and King)... so we "set Him apart" there "through faith". And so Paul "tested himself" often to see if he was "in" it, in the flow of it.: "Be transformed by the renewing of Your mind" (nous).
So we "fix our eyes" (our centres) upon Him - where He Who IS Grace - through His Baptismal, Regenerative Activity - may be found "today", that we may be receiving the goal of our faith - "the salvation of our souls" , and through cooperation, be working out our salvation ("working out" what He has worked, and is "working, in") with fear and trembling"... because, for classical non Augustinians, Hebrew 6 warnings etc, are to believers, and therefore "it is a terrible thing to fall into the hands of The Living God", and to disdain the Blood of Christ which once bought us.
"Once you were alienated from God and were enemies in your minds (quite agree that there is no separation of proximity) because of your evil behaviour; but now he has reconciled you - by Christ's physical body - through death - to present you holy in his sight, without blemish and free from accusation, if (and there's the "condition" of cooperation with the unconditional love) you continue in your faith - not moved from the hope held out in the gospel'
To the Orthodox, who do not work from underlying Augustinian presupps etc, and therefore hold to a differing view of both divine and human freedom, there ever remains this side of "the Jordan", a beautiful, but risky freedom... i.e, we can "lose" the relationship with Life and Love Himself - through our wrong use of our central "will".
The point is, is that when the universe shakes (Heb 12), are we - as individuals - Who "actualise" the Corporate Human Nature - "on that day" relationally reconciled to Him Who has "once for all" deified that Nature in Himself? ... For if not, and His corrective loving discipline has not born the fruit of repentance, then "such branches are thrown into the fire and consumed".
The incorporation of man (individually) into Christ and his Union with God require the cooperation of two unequal, but equally necessary forces : Divine Grace and human will"
(Lev Gillet)
(from "Orthodox Spirituality" by "a monk of the Eastern church")....
Will - and not intellect or feeling - is the chief human instruments of the Union with God. There can be no intimate Union with God if our own will is not surrendered and conformed to the Divine will: "Sacrifice and offering Though wouldest not... Lo, I come to do Thy Will O God" (Heb 10:5,9)... but our weak human will remains powerless if it is not anticipated and upheld by the grace of God.
"Through the grace of our Lord Jesus Christ we shall be saved" (Acts 25:11). It is Grace that achieves in us both the willing and the doing (but not via a Monergistic Determinism). The Christian East did not experience the controversies which raged in the West around the notions of Grace and Predestination (Augustianism, Pelagianism and semi - Pelagianism, Thomism, Calvinism, Jansenism, Molinism). In the Orthodox Church the idea of grace has kept something of the vernal freshness which the word "charis" evoked to the Greek minds: the idea of Luminous beauty, Free gift, Condescension and Harmony.
(page 24)) great book!
Blessings in Christ! : )
beautiful, just beautiful@@emilesturt3377
@@JasonClarkIS-youtubeAmen, The Context being Generosity! God Is Good ~ Merciful and Full of Grace ✝️ WHOSOEVER COME 🙏🏻
Religious spirits ungenerous
Mean and stingy ~ full of darkness
God” desires that all men come to HIM”
Since we enter an outside-time-realm,
HE really could spend that realm going after each one who is yet lost, as is HIS desire,(all while still honoring free will ).
Bro id make the flight all the way from oz, for a session or two with baxter and you blokes. This would be unreal have been absolutely loving this podcast you lads are tip top
Come on! We had more conversations this week. We'll let folks know ASAP.
Im having a hard time accepting Gods Grace..i was a very horrible person..i feel guilt..God has changed me in many ways but im still a sinner
Praying you know you are so worth the blood of Jesus, you are His beloved, and you don't get to change His mind about how He feels - He loves you and is proud to call you a friend. Praying grace for the spirit of breakthrough.
I know you don’t like desperation Jason, but I want to be desperate for the authentic gospel!
I know desperation well, I have just stopped making it the foundation of my faith. But I am ravenous for the Truth that sets us free :)
might have to rename Rethinking God with crawfish 😂
Did he ever end up coming to NC? Or is it scheduled at all? I’m on the east side of the state and would like to come if he does!
In my opinion, we have no need to wonder if we’re under a delusion. Paul confirmed that we definitely are in 1 Corinthians 13:12: “For now we see through a glass, darkly; but then face to face: now I know in part; but then shall I know even as also I am known.” It’s my understanding that the Hindu concept “Maya” means illusion, i.e., what we see in the material world is an illusion. For that reason, I have often questioned if what I am perceiving is the way things really are-or to what degree is what I am seeing/perceiving accurate? It can be paralyzing, but I guess that’s better than leaning the ladder against the wrong wall and beginning to climb.
I've climbed the wrong ladder on the right wall and the right ladder on the wrong wall haha - love the 'illusion' insight. Our perception is just a part of the story. Kinda like all those fellas trying to describe the elephant.
Thankful for you, man - praying grace and a profound sense of peace and wholeness over you and your family. Life and life more abundant.
I know it says in the scriptures that Jesus Christ is in us.
Maybe I'm overthinking it but, how do I know He is in me??
Ask Him ha! Thats where I'd start. And you will recognize him where you participate in love - toward yourself and others.
Greetings in ✝️JESUS 🕊️
To all …. The old covenant has been Done Away with!
What Do The Inspired Scriptures say?
Let’s look 👀 no not in The New
Let’s go to 600 BC The Prophet Jeremiah… ch 31
V31 The New Covenant 📕
V32 NOT LIKE SINAI 🪦🪦
V33 Indwelling 🧠🫀🫁
V34 NO SIN 🕊️
If your new covenant is like similar or exactly the same as the old covenant
Then You Haven’t Got
THE NEW COVENANT
OF Jeremiah let alone
✝️ JESUS 🩸 CHRIST 🕊️
THE LORD (Adonai)👑
The Eternal Life Giving Spirit 🔥
AMEN 🙏🏻🙏🏽🙏🏿🙏
It is a glorious union we have discovered in this New Covenant :)
which version of Athanasius on the Incarnation are you referring to?
That's a Baxter question - you can find him in the liner note links.
Bro I felt so isolated… as a Christian tattoo artist
Ha, glad we have entered the day when the tattoo isn't taboo :)
TO THE PODCAST:
I HAVE SOME QUESTIONS REGARDING THE FACT THAT SCRIPTURE WAS TRANSLATED FROM HEBREW AND ARAMAIC. THIS MEANS THAT TRANSLATIONS FROM THOSE TWO VERY CLOSE LANGUAGES NEEDED TRANSLATORS FROM THOSE LANGUAGES. WERE THEY?
I AM CONCERNED OVER HOW SO MUCH HAS BEEN MISSED ACCORDING TO ARAMAIC LANGUAGE EXPERTS IN THE NUANCES OF THAT LANGUAGE THAT CAN NOT BE PROPERLY TRANSLATED INTO GREEK AND LATIN, ETC WE HAVE MISSED OUT ON THE TRUE MEANINGS, IDIOMS, ETC., OF THAT LANGUAGE AFTER BEING TRANSLATED. WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS?
I am out of my wheelhouse with this question. You may want to check out Baxter's website. He's a scholar, for sure.
Hey guys! I didn’t catch all of the names for books he shared, can someone help me out?
You can listen here and find links to Baxters website as well. afamilystory.org/2023/11/c-baxter-kruger-christ-in-you/
I don't have a list but thats a good place to start :)
Catalog crew
Happy Thanksgiving :)