Analysis of The Bow of Faerdhinen vs Twisted Bow vs Blowpipe
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- Опубліковано 25 сер 2024
- A complete analysis of the Bow of Faerdhinen, Twisted bow, and Blowpipe. Including BIS of bosses and cost per hour comparison.
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they have nothing on the ogre comp bow
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It has been 2 years and this comment has stood the test of time and the Ogre Comp Bow is still currently the BIS(best in slot) everywhere
Hahahahahhahahahhahaha is because the ogre bow no good! Hahahahahhahahahahahahahhahaha! Omg such a play with words you are craaaazy man
thank you!!! i have been waiting for a video EXACTLY like this, really appreciate it. Cheers!
cleaned bank for bofa rebuild, used bofa to get shadow at toa, used shadow to get another shadow, sold shadow bought tbow, now rocking max range and mage in raids going for torva next. gl
I really wish I did that :(((
one thing about BP after nerf is that all calculations regarding the nerf seem to be done with max ranged. change full arma + anguish + pegasians to blessed d-hide/fury and the BP dps just tanks completely. bows with already high damage and accuracy aren't as heavily effected by the loss accuracy and a max hit or 2.
Im always curious about this kind of stuff. Every single calculation is always done with max gear and stats. Things start to drop off or outperform in the middle tier.
Just started a bowfa rebuild, been mainly using it at gwd and zulrah. Glad to have something I can reference now when choosing between blowpipe and bowfa
How did the rebuild go? I have been thinking about grinding out the last few mil I need to afford bowfa and amour, just not sure if it's worth it.
@Heimtuckisch it's absolutely worth it now. I bought mine when the full set was well over 200m and I'm still happy with my decision. Bowfa is great at so many bosses it's insane
@@Pennywise-nx4jz Alright I guess I'll send it then thanks for the motivation, I was just worried that I wouldn't use it much since I don't have anyone to group with on things like bandos or raids
@@heimtuckisch3317 How did your rebuild go
this is the kind of shit i like to see. Such good info, thanks for the effort you put into this.
Love the new bow, rip my 1250 shards from reverting my corrupted blade! After recording, I realized I should have been pronouncing it differently but most people are calling the the fbow, bowfa, or bow of faerovjnoinwivn anyways so it doesn't matter!
Debating if I should give up the blade of saeldor and transfer to the bow of fae…
@@FrawLawk depends how much you fight bosses weak to slash damage. If youre doing a lot of tob and dont have scythe, keep the blade.
Bowfa these nuts
Yeah no. This guy pronounces every single word wrong without fail lol. He consistently adds letters that are not there to nearly every word.
Thank you so much for this video this is exactly what I was looking for. Tempted to get rid of my blade to make the bow quicker, but I think I'll send some gauntlet until I get tired of it and see what I want to do from there.
Thank you for the kind words. Thats exactly what i did until i decided to break down my bow since I'm mostly doing cox and gwd now. I'll gain my blade back passively after I get rigour/augory while i'm upkeeping my shards.
Best video on this subject. Thanks a ton.
Fantastic video.. can you make part 2 of the video by adding acb/dhcb + bucker/ward especially for GWD bosses, vorkath and cox. Also, would be interesting to see the fbow dps compared to bp against shamans with shayziyan armour for dwh grind
I didn't include DHCB because the enchanted bolts really change things up a lot and I think we can sum it up fairly in a comment. To give you a quick Tl;DR...DHCB generally better than Fbow/BP at dragons like Olm and Vorkath, but you need to leverage ruby bolts and you'll need a twisted buckler/dragon bolts to keep up when the HP is low. As for ACB, even in a max set-up, it's just worse then Fbow in all these locations. For example, using twisted buckler and ruby dragon bolts (e) at full HP Olm is still less DPS than Fbow with body/legs. 100% Use BP at shamans since you need the armour + shamans have low def.
So basically, Tbow is still the Blue Party Hat of osrs, but the BOF is definitely a Red Party Hat.
3rd age druidic is more like the blue party hat of osrs
3rd age pick
Nice video, super in-depth and high-quality. I personally will be sticking with blow pipe just because I don’t want to buy all the crystal armor and stuff right now it seems too expensive. And I really want a twisted bow so I’m just going to save up.
Bowfa is 240m now monkaS
@@Fortunee44 yeah i seen that. i bought a t bow at like 830m few months ago
Here we are today t bow is 1.3b and bowfa 110m
@@stevenalcorn4955 haha yeah. I quit osrs but still got my t bow chillin in my bank
Great video man the layout is so so easy to consume
Im so thankful for this video. Amazing video!
super late but this is the first youtube video ive ever bookmarked lmao good shit dude
thanks dude! probably need to factor in masori nowadays helping out blowpipe and tbow a bit more but otherwise should be okay
Do you know how the DHCB stacks up against these in the Olm fight?
Tbow is best..DHCB is mostly better dps by a fair margin over the fbow while using ruby bolts anywhere from 50%-85% of the fight (take dragon rubys and buckler to get the most dps difference) but the fbow can take over earlier in the early range of this hp pool if your dhcb setup lacks dragons/buckler. By the last bit of the fight, You'll for sure need dragon bolts and the buckler to keep the dps basically equal.
Love the Bowfa, it aint a bis niche wep like the Tbow but it handles very well in almost any situation where ranged is applied. Very accurate, with armor is even more and more accurate and powerful. Great low cost (low cost comparing the change in damage vs the cost of a tbow) item to start wearing down those end game mobs
Yup. Bowfa and fang are two weapons that do at least serviceable in most content.. can get a lot of mileage from both of them at a fairly reasonable price tag. Shadow is similiar in verstility for magic but its much more expensive to own and use of course
I feel like you're a runescape weatherman. but great video! keep it up!
There's a 10% chance of seeing a purple today, be sure to bring some RNG with you!
This is all I need, to keep me committed to finish gauntlet.
What this tells me is the bowfa is essentially the most consistent ranged weapon in the game.
there's a typo in the video for giant mole incase nobody pointed it out yet
Definitely better at mole than DH. With 99str 98att, I get 50-60 kills per hour at mole with dh depending on luck. At 98 range, I can get around 70 kills per hour with bowfa setup. I get a lot of kills with bow before mole even burrows because you can hit back to back 40's on it. With it's range, you can also attack it a few seconds sooner after burrowing than you can with DH, which means less stams are needed, so trips last longer. You also get a decent prayer bonus which extends trips.
Hey, thanks, this was very helpful. As an ironman, I'm mostly interested in shard costs, which you did put in at the end of the video for Bandos, Sara, Zulrah, and Mole. I was wondering if you had any data on Kree'arra and solo raids as well?
Hey Andrew! at Kree, you'll probably more hits there but since you'll also be on task for Kree, you won't be using the helmet so the cost may actual be either cheaper or the same as bandos/sara . As for cox, I'm not too sure but since you generally only use ranged armour like half the raid + there aren't many things hitting you at once, I'd imagine you can squeeze in a few hours of raiding for every gauntlet you'll need to do. Also, once again, you may not bring crystal helm to raids depending on your preference, meaning the cost will once again be 1/3 cheaper. If I get some data on COX, I'll let you know!
Bow is fucking poggers on slayer task. Rapid 51's potted/rigour with crystal body/legs and a slayer helm!
Ye it's pretty good on slayer tasks, i kind of like using it when doing cannon tasks! Technically, the bow is stronger relatively speaking outside of slayer, since all ranged weapons get the slayer helm buff but you lose out the crystal helms buff (while other ranged items only lose arma helm).
hi man i love your stream and your video thank for streaming
Hey Amine, thanks for sticking around!
Is it correct that the cox comparisons are assuming using crystal armor with all the weapons? Or is the bp and tbow calculated with armadyl? Would this make a significant difference? I don't have a tbow so I'm curious if I should invest in this until I can get one while I do cms. Maybe bring bp and bowfa? Obviously as you said in the beginning no crystal helm, faceguard instead. Great video by the way.
Hey Ben! BP and tbow were were already using Arma in the calcs. It's not a big difference either way (+5 accuracy from top/legs). As for CMs, while fbow scales better into CMs compared to the BP, tbow completely blows them so far out of the water (because of the magic scaling) that I'm not sure it's worth farming CMs without an tbow. Hopefully that helps!
@@TravagGames Thanks for the reply
Im confused by the graoh. How come the best weapons to use are at the top which is 0%
Hey stealth. The graph always has the BIS weapon at the top (0%).. the next two weapons are placed on the graph displaying how much weaker then are over the BIS (-10%, -20%, etc). This is how I chose to visualize BIS and avoid plugging in specific dps numbers since those vary more based on setup.
you are LONG overdue of a remake of this video vs masori vs shadow vs bofa
Was there any place the F bow was useful without the crystal armour? Or at least more useful than the blowpipe. Uim so debating going for it if it's useful
Over the blowpipe eh, a few places with high defense for sure but for creatures with too high of a def for bp, I think crossbows and even msb compete/out perform the fbow without armour so I'm not sure if its worth getting.
great video mate
Did you factor in how it scales with a bigger team? because I could be wrong but I think t bow should still be better at mystics.
This is solo only. Forhigher scaled raids, you are right in that tbow does do better. Tbow also does much much better in CMs.
holy moly the big braining comming with 17 min math video
So I'm assuming the KQ calculation includes a full set of crystal minus the helm? Im trying to figure out what weapon I should use to pet hunt, the rebalance kinda messed me up lol
Yup. Kq is assuming slayer helm.
He's just adding letters to everything he wants
Is the bow worth using with no crystal armor, at CoX for example?
If you dont own a tbow, it's probably better than bp at places like mystics and ice demon, plus the range is nice... but otherwise i'd say bringing at least the top and bottom should be strongly considered... it just makes the bow much better and not taking the pieces is a waste of damage and accuracy. It would be like bringing a dragon hunter lance without gloves and a defender.
Great video, only suggestion I would make is just put the graphs on the screen immediately instead of taking 2 minutes to slowly scroll over. It was really annoying and distracting to not be able to see the graph as you were talking about it.
anyone know how good F bow is at Venenatis? And Bear?
My Ironman just spooned the bow, as I've not got any armour seeds atm would the bow be useful anywhere? I'm only able to use addy darts with my blowpipe atm as well. Thanks for the video too!
Congrats dude!! You do need the armour to make much use of it I think Blowpipe will be better in most cases without it, even at ardy darts.. you'll need 2k+ shards to corrupt the bow + make the armour so might as well jump back into the gauntlet! The hard part is over though.
I was watching your livestream of bandos and wanted to show your strategy to a friend, anyway to get the link for that?
Hey Cristiano, thanks for stopping by! Just search 6:0 Bandos in UA-cam and a few guides should pop-up. Usually this method is used for crossbows on rapid. Fbow is faster so I set it to accurate to match 6:0. The real best method for fbow bandos will be 7:0 so you can be on rapid but that method is still new and I hasn't been learned by many yet. 6:0 works just fine and is a lot easier as well.
Does the bow work good without the armor though? I haven’t come across anybody mentioning just not having any piece of the crystal armor and using it with void/elite void/blessed dhide/arma/karils. Like my question personally would be is it still a bis at mole if you don’t have the crystal armor and using elite void/anguish/pegs because I can’t afford to buy the crystals for the armor just yet and can’t afford to buy a tbow either
Its really not super great without the armour. You'll want at least to top and bottom since they give the biggest bonuses. While you may think void is decent because the max hit is only 1 or 2 less.. the accuracy is much lower, which equates to anywhere from 25% less dps at mole upwards to 60% less dps at sara to use some examples. Roughly similar for karils/blessed dhide which is a bit better on high defense like sara but its still 50% less dps than crystal. Good news is that this set up is better than using a crossbow and diamond bolt (e) if you really need to kill these types of bosses, but i think youd be better off waiting until you get the crystal armour before going to deep into bossing without the set.. couple additional notes for you personally: For mole, dharoks is most certainly better at that point I would assume. Secondly, maybe consider selling your pegs for now to go towards crystal armour.. downgrading to blessed boots is barely a decrease but this will help you pay crystal which is a big boost.
@@TravagGames Thanks for the insight 🙏🏾 Fortunately I ended up getting an enhanced weapon seed from normal gauntlet about 20/30 minutes ago idk what to do besides to sell it and buy what I need for the armor and full charges for it! Thanks a lot for replying I’m about to camp mole til I get the pet
Wow lucky you! Congrats! I guess that solves your problem. Enjoy hunting the mole pet with the bow, its way more chill than dharoks and uses less staminas and prayer pots (safe spots) supplies.
really detailed video, love it, would have been nice to see how rocking the DHC/Arma crossbow against these weapons. Should i use arma for zulrah for example? Or if i have a DHC at olm, should i also use that for mystics?
Hey Joben, Thank you! Arma is just worse everywhere... id only use it if you couldnt afford the fbow and the target has high defense. DHC is slighty better at olm if you have max set-up with rubies and dont mind bringing the switches. Mystics is fbow 100%.
@@TravagGames should i bring bp to COX if i have dhc?
@@jobennebur i bring bp + bowfa. If you dont have bowfa, bp + dhc is good. I like using bp in certain situations + the specs for healing. While bp is better at shamans, i prefer bowfa (and even crossbows there) because the range makes the room easier.
How does this work with pures, and do you think the new bow is better than blowpipe for trash worlds at inferno?
Pures in what sense? If you cant wear the armour, id say bp is probably better at inferno.
How is the bow vs Nex?
so as an ironman that will never get to amethyst darts because i hate mining (I will be using addy darts), is blowpipe even worth grinding for anymore? or should I just skip it and get Fbow? Just got my house setup and serp helm for zulrah yesterday too lol...fml
It's still useful for slayer and as a spec weapon. that being said, addy darts are -11 strength weaker than amethyst so its a solid difference, especially given how ranged strength feeds into the fast attack speed. Addy can still be used but I would at least try to get some rune darts for boss content as a middle ground. Amethyst are just easier to upkeep once you reach 92 mining (I know it sucks, I'm slowly grinding it to). To answer your question.. If you are mostly doing bosses, chambers, etc and just melee-ing slayer mostly... Fbow is going to be better than blowpipe with addy darts so yes, I guess you can skip the blowpipe if you CBA slowly work up your mining level (unless you plan on doing inferno, or more fight caves). What's nice about fbow is you can go do ranged only zulrah and get a blowpipe after anyways in a very very chill way. Couple things to keep in mind: the fbow grind is longer and even if you get spooned the bow, you need 6 armour seeds. Secondly, this is an early prediction and its very late game but if the armour from raids 3 comes into the game as "low life armour", the blowpipe and other ranged weapons will benefit from it while the fbow will not because you'll need to use crystal armour to make it strong.. This means blowpipe could become stronger again once that armour is available.
@@TravagGames thank you for the info! i think I will go for blowpipe second like you said. That's a good idea plus it will give me time to grind mining when I feel like it so i can use better darts when I get it
Hey, great video thanks!
Just a quick one- I’ve just bought one and corrupted it, been farming CoX- should I still bring armadyl armour as a switch anyway (for DHCB for first 60% of olm, BP rooms etc) or just use Crystal straight through? Cheers!!
whats the dmg comparison between bowfa+armor and dhcb on olm?
It is pretty close. Dhcb is generally a bit better if u have dragon bolt and twisted buckler. Might be worth it as a switch if you are comfortable at olm.. i'd still think using bowfa for the last 200 hp will be better
How is bowfa on a pure? Was thinking about doing a rebuild with it.
Crystal armour requires 70 def, not having that weakens significantly
@@Afrojoet right but it still hits over 40 and huge accuracy without the armor still
I kept up with Tbower's points in a trio CM with Bowfa. Also, anyone done DPS calcs for Dagannoth Prime?
Tbow does get a lot stonger in CMs and scaled raids but without a tbow, this is one of the best options. Weird i didnt include daggs even though i checked calcs! Assuming a slayer task, its pretty much a tie give or take the darts used. Off slayer, fbow by just a little bit. Though having the blowpipe spec is going to add value and dps if you dont have the sgs for your spec.
So is it worth to corrupt the bow as a main? I dont have t-bow yet
I would corrupt it if your path to tbow is far away
Good vid, I laughed way too hard when you said "Neigtorsnot" helm. Just funny cause there's no "R" in the spelling at all. Neitiznot (pronounced NAY-tizz-not). Great content though. Keep it up.
Looking at all the methods for gwd now like 9:0 8:0 and the method for killing sara with the f bow it dominates gwd
Oh big time. Changes Bandos completely and its really good at sara pre-tbow
dude you need to add timestamps within the video of different bosses and this video would be 1000x better
such a nice video
Love the video. Btw, it's pronounced "FILL-thin-ane"
does anyone know whats better bow of F or rune cbow with ruby bolt e's on bandos? I'd be running and taking no hits, curious which is better dps since theres no dps calcs that add ruby bolt E specs
Fbow is better by a long shot. You would use diamond bolts over rubies at Bandos because of his defense but even if you do that, fbow is still way way better.
@@TravagGames Yeah just came back from a run, it absolutely shreds wow
@@casualyoutube its insane! you go from 90 second kills to like 40 seconds
why does it say on all your links that the tweet is no longer available? do you have a link to the dps chart that actually works?
Hey Breed! Links should work now. thanks for flagging!
Can you do a bis video on the shadow, so i know where to take it besides toa
NADERS KNOT
I don't even care that I've lost over 200m on tbow it still shreds
how do i recolor the bow?
Hey Joker, the bow can be recolored by buying any of the crystals sold at Lliann's Wares on the west side of Prifddinas.
How about brutal black dragons? I’m sure tbow is better, but just curious.
Yup! Tbow by a fair margin of like 20% over DHCB and 30% over Fbow.. Elite void helping out here, a set Fbow can't use effectively.
1) Tbow
2) DHCB
3) Fbow
@@TravagGames is elite void better than arma for these? :O
Let me clarify! Brutal blacks: For Tbow Arma is better and for DHCB elite void is better.
@@TravagGames at Brutal Blacks the DHCB is better than the Faerdhinen ONLY while using dragon bolts however. If using runite, the Fbow is better.
Can u just buy it from g.e and use it without doing song of elves?
nice video
Thank you!
Did you calculate using the specs of nerfed blowpipe?
No. But the new spec is really good. Blowpipe is a solid spec weapon for some healing.. for example, I hit zulrah around 65% of the time and gwd minions around 80% of the time
Ney-terz-not
Tbow and bowls can't even kill chompies
What about Dagannoth Prime?
Hey Mikael! Missed Prime somehow! BP vs Fbow.. Assuming a slayer task, its pretty much a tie give or take the darts used. Off slayer, fbow by just a little bit. Though having the blowpipe spec is going to add value and dps if you don't have the SGS for your spec.
@@TravagGames i'd guess Fbow is a bit better then, for it's massive range, so Supreme doesn't aggro you if he ends up respawning by bad luck on the hits, but thanks for responding!
very good
Thank you! Cheers!
@@TravagGames beautiful craftsmanship care and detail, explains what's important.
Now... im late for freeing the world..
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And from these covid travel restrictions bullshit so I can go to somewhere beautiful in Rome high in the hills on a orange sky and have sexycreola4u sit on my face and kill me, after I impregnate a few other models.
Tc man ❤️✌️
OSRS Wiki has Hydra as tbow->fbow->dhcb and only has bp for spec. I'm torn on who is correct
I think this is a case of seeing the two crystal items and thinking fbow has to be better here.. its not.. hydra has pretty low defense and bp performs much better than the fbow and dhcb here.
@@TravagGames but if talking about profit, would it be better to bring a corrupted fbow? Since it won't consume charges and darts + scales can add up on the BP
@@mika_fernandes Yup, that's true.. It's not a bad option if you want to save scales/money but your kills will be a fair bit longer.
If your goal is to save money or maximize profits, I would suggest giving melee hydra a try! you'll save the money + have way quicker kills.
is the crystal bow comparison only with the armour? Can u do it without the armour?
This is with the armour, sometimes without the helm though. Im pretty sure the bow can't compete with msb(i) with rune arrows without 1-3 set pieces.
So the fbow is lackluster
Helm of Neiterznot
Good video, but I would be little careful about showing %. You need to keep the one way, not mix both saying its weaker or stronger.
4:58 you show bp is 50% weaker, but you say the bow is 50% stronger. Which leads to two ways. For example if the bow dow 50 damage, bp would do 50% so 25... But if bp does 25, 150% would be 37.5 damage.
Yes, you are correct and I misspoke. For the video, all cals are done with the top item being X% stronger.
should have added acb in compre.. who does sara with blowpipe lol
just wondering where would the dhcb be for olm
with buckler and dragon rubies is a bit better than fbow..but if you have fbow, I dont think its worth the extra 2 items to bring in
@@TravagGames I see
Neiterznot?
Is the BOF better than ACB at armadyl
Yes I believe BOF is pretty much better than ACB everywhere.
Slayer helm actually gives same set bonus as crystal helm
The Slayer helm and the top/bottom do work together, That is factored in here already. However, the gap does change those because you gain the difference (like around 11.6% damage, 14.1% accuracy) as opposed to the full slayer helm 16.6% boost.
wood u say the bow is worth it with arma and max gear
Not really. You lose a lot of power if you don't use the crystal armour or at least the top & legs
so we need all 3
No r in neitznot
neitiznot with the hard r
Are you sure you're supposed to say Feardhinen like that
ya its wrong but this was basically day 1 of release when no one really knew :D
lol natersnot
keep in MIND ITS A MOTHA FUCKING "!@#"BOFA"!@#!
Bofa kinda trash. I wish I didn’t spend 40m corrupting it yesterday lol
I wish there was a laughing react
so the bow is lowkey useless. just an attempt to balance. how does the bow do against nylo king?
duuuuuude, you need to say team size for cox calcs to be useful... the solo calc vs the 5s scale is completely different
I said these are solo calcs in the video. Tbow is the item that scales heavily.
lol got seed drop watching this free bofa
Well that's timely! Congrats dude!
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Naterznot
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@@ekim613 shatzo
butchered the name lol
I realized this during editing when I re-read the name but it was too late to redo everything lol.
So it's not that good, and you have to use a shitty armor to even make it relevant, and the armor costs...sad