I saw them at SPAC 22 years ago and they were awful.Went along with a friend and gave them another chance or whatever.That was the finish of Kiss as far as we were concerned.Never a big fan of them really.
@@MrAmi69 kisses a money making machine did not rock ‘n’ roll Taking money under false pretenses Bottom line Simmonsis is using people as fools Not Fans But Sap Suckers Stanley has been caught lip-Syncing pre-recorded music, Kiss is Pulling a Milli Vanilli That’s why my friend
Name another rock band that made a idisco song 1979 I was made for loving MONEY Oh I can’t get enough. Led Zeppelin Black Sabbath Deep Purple Jethro Tull Yes etc DISCO SUCKS Where a rock ‘n’ roll band 😎✌️👍❤️
@@slammingsammy9617 And still people have a GREAT time at their shows. Why does the fact that YOU don't like them even matter when there are LOADS of people that do. You don't like that people have a good time?
I was waiting and waiting for Queen to make the list, and you didn't disappoint with giving them the number one spot. Freddie had one wish for his band mates, "Don't make me boring." Well, they not only achieve doing that, but continue to stomp on Mercury's grave.
Totally agree. At the Queen’s jubilee concert in 2022, Queen (the band) were lacklustre, going through the motions. Adam Lambert looked as if he wanted to get back to eating pies. A terrible waste of time.
So totally agree with you Michael and Toy Box. I’m an older rocker chick from the 70s (I’ll be 70 in a month). From the first time I heard Queen in 1974, I was an immediate fan, but WTH are Brian and Roger trying to prove. Brian is supposedly worth over £210mil, Roger is worth over £ 200mil, John (even though not playing/touring gets royalties) is worth over £130mil, and Freddie’s estate also continues to glean monies. Queen + Adam Lambert is a sad showing for Brian and Roger. Their performance at the Queen’s jubilee was an embarrassment to the band they once were. Brian keeps saying that Freddie would love what they’re doing, but I wonder? The music is theirs, but it sounds old, tired, and lacking the passion that Freddie and John brought to performances. My old vinyl sounds much better. Michael is right…Brian and Roger need to write some new music and perform just the two of them.
I think there's at least one thing that you either forgot or just never thought about. °Bands used to make a good portion of their money from album sales, but since digital downloads have taken over this is no longer the case. Most rock stars weren't known for saving & investing their money for later so they can retire, so they had to hit the road "one more time" while they're still able to.. Look up the year digital downloading took off & the year classic rock bands started doing their reunion tours & you'll see they coincide with each other.
Trust me alot of these old farts flogging on have not been ruined by Digital downloads. Pure greed and egos. I feel more sorry for younger bands and bands that were not stadium fillers years ago
Damn! Spot on exact! The digital age has greatly deprived those acts, and, actually many current acts, of rightful compensation and numerous instances of literally zero compensation for any recording once it is online.
Van Morrison should never retire from touring. I have seen him in a small venue in Belfast x3 and in front of 15K in Philly. That old dude is timeless and still has it!
Yes deep purple rainbow dio UFO triumph acdc Judas priest molly hatchet van halen journey kiss boc foghat srv Sammy hager msg Elton John seen a lot of them.
I can see this guy crashing cocktail parties just hoping he will find someone (not old enough to have seen the great bands of the 70s and 80s) braving about a classic concert they just saw. Sad! I have to wonder if Mr. Perfect host has even seen any of the bands he’s insulting. He took some shots at Styx that were CLEARLY unjust and NOT deserved!!! Styx is still playing with 3 of their classic line up, one of which (Tommy Shaw) has written and sung a good amount of their best songs. BTW, he AND the rest of the band still sound INCREDIBLE!!!!! To set the record straight, the original drummer died many years ago and the original keyboardist / other lead vocalist left due to creative differences and ego. I suggest you go see them and it won’t cost you the $200 you seem to be found of (name) dropping.
It's true that Sabbath changed with Ronnie Dio, but Heaven & Hell is an absolute monster classic album, and in no way a loss of quality in output from the band.
The Stones still write new material but who goes to hear that? Their best material ended back in the 70s, it's a greatest hits show with two original members and a bunch of session musicians.....
I go to hear that Henry! But I also don’t knock fans who want the hits! So do I! But I want new material also! Not just one or two songs from their latest album of 12-14 songs! Paul McCartney has done this ever since he restarted touring in 89-90! Only MyBrave Face, This One, Figure of Eight, & Put It There, from what many believe is at least one of his better effort! In 76, he performed just the hits from Speed of Sound, but his Venus & Mars & Band on the Run albums had never been toured out, and by that time, he even had hits that weren’t on actual albums! Adding the 5 only Beatle songs, were brilliant! Besides, Speed of Sound might be an interesting album, but one of his weaker efforts, Too many substandard songs sang by members (Not Denny Though!) I didn’t want to hear! But one of his strongest efforts, sales wise! I much prefer his much maligned ‘Back to the Egg’! Now there is one his very best albums! But nobody liked it! Go figure!😉
In around '70 rock bands were putting out 2 sometimes even 3 new records a year. Now you're lucky if you hear of something within the same decade of the last release.
Can't believe Grand Funk Railroad isn't on your list. After the original three members split up, Don Brewer and Mel Schacher continued using the name. They haven't put out any new material since then and now have three other guys doing what Mark Farner did from the start. He (Mark) wrote 90+% of the songs they did and the current lineup is nothing more than a cover band.
I saw them in the mid '90's. Talk about awful ! They came out dressed as if they were still in their hay-day, opened with "Foot Stompin' " which wasn't to bad but it was downhill from there.
The fake GFR band is a disgrace. Bruce Kulick playing through a cranked Marshall while trying to replicate old Mark Farner soulful licks is a bad joke and something to avoid at all costs.
Gary don't know where your from but the last time I seen GFR was in Chicago Mark Farmer was being the egotistical A - Hole he always was bragging about how good he was when from off left side of stage came Eric Clapton and blew his ass off stage he stormed off it was funny as hell Don Brewer stopped playing just to watch him play
@@shaunduffy5180 Tired and old… they borrowed and built on an old library of blues riffs and lyrics that had been borrowed and built on decades before they ever did. Difference was that they were a big, fat, successful, and wealthy target, unlike the untold numbers of poor kids who did the same in obscurity and had nothing to give but the shirts off their backs. Zep spun it on it’s head and turned it into gold. That old blues stuff was handed down for generations, they just spun it better. Better get a new argument. That shit is old, rehashed, and tired.
I'm surprised you didn't have Lynyrd Skynyrd on the list, still touring with one original member left. I'm so glad I had the chance to see them in '77 before they had their tragedy. I have to say I agreed with a lot of your points you made, new subscriber here!
@@MichaelNoland-TheBottomLine Mc Cartney?? Be nice. I actually haven't seen him live since the Beatles. He played 2 shows in Seattle here, recently but I couldn't afford the tickets . I tried to watch one of his videos of one of his current concerts and his voice was a bit weak. I have the concert tape,Back in the U.S.A and I really enjoyed that. I haven't been impressed that much with recent music. Given his history and his overall genius, well , just be nice.
YES COOPER IS STILL GREAT AND PUTTING OUT NEW MUSIC, GREAT LIVE BAND. I GREW UP WITH THE ORIGINAL BAND STILL LOVE THEM. NO ALICE WITHOUT NEAL SMITH, DENNIS DUNAWAY, MICHAEL BRUCE AND GLEN BUXTON
Vince hasn't been worth a crap since "Welcome To My Nightmare". His poser metal crap has no heart. When your biggest post-70s hit was written and produced by freaking Jon Bon Jovi, you've turned to the dark side. But his early catalog ensures his standing as one of the coolest stylists and trendsetters in rock. That the gods for Frank Zappa's eye for talent and Bob Ezrin's sonic genius for pulling the brilliance out of those lads. Michael Bruce's music writing made his friend one of a very rare set of greats. Sammy's voice has been shot for decades. Don't get me wrong: I LOVE how great these performers WERE. The Alice Cooper Group (Band) changed American Rock as we know it, and put out some really, really brilliant tunes. Sammy had one of the greatest voices in Rock history. His work with Montrose and early solo stuff ("Red", "This Planet's On Fire", "Turn Up The Music", "Heavy Metal") was fun, rollicking jams. And he remains a really good guy
I remember seeing The Byrds back in the 90's with only the drummer as the original member. The set list was essentially their greatest hits album. This was at a carnival. It was pretty sad.
This absolutely needed to be said. I wont even debate what bands should or should not be on that list. The underlying point is solid. There's something to be said about "It's better to burn out than to fade away."
@@ianjameson3604 I bailed on Neil when they started releasing his albums in alternative formats, i.e. Living With War...w/a 50 piece choir and three weeks later the stripped down version that I wanted 😡
@@jeffclement2468 For some reason Neil now seems to think that everything he's ever recorded be it live recordings or studio sessions is of interest to the public. I'm not a compleatist and although Neil Young is one of my favourite artists especially his seventees and ninetees musical peaks I really don't want to hear his every utterance. Someone close to him should tell him that sometimes less is more. Take Kate Bush for example. She's one really classy lady who when she reached her creative peak and had nothing further to say musically decided to retire from the industry. She doesn't need to lift a finger but is still making millions and has been introduced to a whole new audience thanks to her music being used in the hit Netflix show Stranger Things.
@@ianjameson3604 thing to remember with Neil is that the man had a lot of drug problems(like the rest of Crosby, Stills and Nash) and in Neil's case a litany of bad really bad investments. Remember the Pono player?
I think you are right on! The "music business" is a horrible industry, and I don't see things getting better. I am a black man, born & raised in Chicago, and I grew up on Rock and Roll. Music today is sterile, impersonal and vapid. You cannot really have a deep connection to bands today, and to watch these older acts clinging to past glory, although understandable, it is sad. You made a sub out of me with this video!
This is my first time watching, Michael. Frankly, you're a breath of fresh air! I agree that once a band no longer has any original members, they are a tribute band. Others will argue that whoever holds the rights to the band name can go on as long as they want. That statement goes back to your original comment about playing just to make money. Anyway...thanks! I look forward to being notified of future videos.
Rush kept making new content that actually remained relevant rather than just becoming a nostalgia act like so many of their peers did. Basically, they never stopped being amazing.
KISS & Eagles need a mention for the fact they both have already done farewell tours. Once you do that, I say no more touring. The Eagles ticket prices are extreme gauging.
Saw King Crimson during their 50th anniversary tour. Even though Robert Fripp is the only original member (there was many versions), he always surrounded himself with musicians of the highest virtuosity. This lineup performed music from their extensive catalog. They were stunning. It sounded new & inventive. It was great to see master musicians pushing themselves with complex arrangements & configurations. I left exhausted but it was worth the ride. Great music is supposed to take you to a higher place. It was worth every penny.
KC was always a band in flux. To this day Robert has never loosened the standards on what it takes and means to be King Crimson, and the 2017 tour proved that all over again. It was absolutely King Crimson.
The Double Trio was definitive. They composed and orchestrated polyrhythmic performances like no one. The latest KC is fine, however Adrian Below can't be touched as the supreme front man in the biz. Outside of Wetton of course, no one can sing and play like Adrian
With Queen + Paul Rodgers, it was stressed that Paul was NEVER intended to be Freddie’s replacement (hence the + Paul Rodgers in the name). And they didn’t strictly perform Queen songs, they also threw in Free and Bad Company numbers as well, and you could see one very important thing: THEY WERE HAVING FUN PLAYING AGAIN!
I lost interest in their music made after the 70s, still listen to Exile now and then, but if they love what they're doing and audiences enjoy, more power to them. It's not still the Stones, really. And seeing Jagger as Taylor Swift's special guest when I took my daughter to a show in 2015? Very exciting for the parents there, but his singing was SO bad - he was about 3 notes off key, and it was embarrassing.
@@dietmarsteiner1070 cause the Stones have all the original members except those who died ( ok Ronnie joined in 75,but that’s still 47 years ) except Bill Whyman who left in 1990 but Darrayl Jones has been in the band for 30 years now. So it’s a bit different,until last year when Charlie died they had Mick,Keith and Charlie all original members and Ronnie who’s a stone for nearly 50 years and a bassist who’s been with them for 30 years so they’re not the same as the rest on this list who maybe have just 1 or 2 original members and a load of new guy’s,these guy’s have been going 60 years and Charlie died so they had to replace them . Also they have made a new album quite recently ( blue and lonesome) so they’re not just touring on ancient songs,also they can still play,go and see them,they may not be as good as their absolute peek but they still sound good,Jagger is still singing well and running and dancing,while Keith,Ronnie,steve Jordon and Darryl Jones are fantastic musicians
No offense, the only albums I enjoy over and over by Yes are: The Yes Album, Fragile, and Close To The Edge. I saw them in 1984 after that 😩 Owner Of A Lonely Heart album. Going For The One (song) is a good listen.
To be honest, I was waiting for Queen to come up - not that I agree with it in this instance. However, if I were in the band that wrote and recorded some of their songs, I would want to carry on playing them as long as possible. No one (including Roger, Brian, John and Adam) believes that they are the same band without Fred. But I for one am glad they are doing what they do, if for no other reason than I get to see and hear Brian & Roger play live together. They won't be around playing for that much longer, so I suggest we make the most of it while they are. With regards to Adam, he's certainly no Fred (which he freely admits himself), but he's not too shabby as a vocalist and performer.
@@markbaumbusch2473 no. of Course not. hair colour, skin complexion do not matter. being physically fit enough helps to accomplish what mentally one can think of. Therein is the problem: most of these guys have made No creative progression in decades
@@TvDaddyAndTheTabloidArmy They might have been creative but it didn't sell, so they peddle what people pay for and it's mostly the same favourite hits over and over, that's life!?!
I agree partially. I don’t agree that they should stop playing. People should hear their songs being played live, but I agree that it shouldn’t be at high price tag they put, since most original members they would rather see aren’t there. I was fortunate enough to see Black Sabbath original lineup 3 times during the 2000s at Ozzfest. They sound so good live. I do miss seeing them. Tony Iommi was at least smart enough to change the name of the band Heaven & Hell when he played with Ronnie James Dio. I was unfortunate not able to see them as Dio passed away. One of the greatest vocalists of all time, could arguably be # 1.
But, but, but Grand Funk did gain a former 38 Special lead singer, and with him brought 38 Special's late 80s hit he sang lead on: "A Heart Needs A Second Chance". There's that! 😆
Mark wrote most of the early material. Starting with "We're an American Band" and after Don Brewer became a major songwriter for the band and wrote many excellent songs. It was about a 50/50 split in songwriting on most of the later albums.
Hi Michael, here is another band you should mention that has no original member left is : "Little River Band". I was formed in Australia back in March 1975 by lead vocalist Glenn Shorrock, guitarist-vocalists Beeb Birtles and Graeme Goble, lead guitarist Ric Formosa, bassist Roger McLachlan, and drummer Derek Pellicci. The current line up is now basically American with no original members whatsever, the band is now Wayne Nelson, Chris Mason, Rick Herring, Ryan Ricks & Colin Whinnerey. Its strange because the original 1975 lineup wanted to re-form about 5 years ago but were not allowed to because Wayne Nelson now owns the LRB name.
A sorry tale. Shorrock was his own worst enemy selling the band rights. Have you seen the concert where the original members reunite? Brilliant session and it’s available on DVD.
Mick Jones is the founding member of Foreigner and the main talent as songwriter and guitar player. He is still playing. Styx has had a few new albums not up to the par of the seventies but still good albums that they play live. Styx is also one of the few bands that sound as good or better live compared to their recordings.
A few years ago went to see Crosby Stills and Nash with massive expectation, when they came out for the second half 50% of the arena was empty, that says it all.
Saw them in the 70s. Stills was totally drunk but put on a great show. Nash and Crosby were just horrible. They couldn’t sing two notes in a row on key. It was worth it to see Stills tho.
I saw Crosby in a small venue 3 years ago. His voice was still beautiful. Nobody left. It was a surprisingly good show and a miracle to sound like that at 70 or whatever.
Great analysis! I would have included the Eagles on this list. Only original member left is Don Henley, meanwhile Don Felder, Randy Meisner and Bernie Leadon are all out there in Eagles exile while Henley tours with a bunch of replacements charging $300-500 a ticket. I’ll pass
The Eagles have always been over-rated in my opinion. They think because that they are still around that we'll pay the ridiculous ticket prices they ask for. They rely on their ego, rather than their talent.
I absolutely agree with pricing for an Eagles concert being absurd! They also should have asked Bernie Leadon to return in my opinion over Vince Gill, but I suppose that helped them maintain enough star power to remain a draw. Only thing I'd say is I really believe the Eagles would have been just fine without Don Felder. I know he would have never likely written Hotel California outside of the Eagles, but the songwriting of Glenn and Henley would have kept them as superstars regardless. Love Randy and wish he was able to tour too, but Glenn is sorely missed. Deacon is great though and I hope he has success as a solo artist! No disrespect to your post either, just feeding the conversation!
Well, when the music industry releases statistics recently that show the top 200 most popular songs currently only account for 5% of all streams and downloads, there's something to be said about the old music. The industry also stated that 70% of physical music media sold is vinyl and the artists go back 25 years and more. Music from the 60s-90s is the hottest selling in the industry. This is partly why these bands are still around... demand.
The Golden Age of Rock & Roll - from 1963 to 2000 - produced some amazing music ... but it's over. Just like Classical and Jazz , it had its time and then faded. We now go back and relisten and analyze and interpret but the original magic remains the standard. Rock is the same - Mick Jagger is still Rocking but it's more nostalgia than Rock. Bob Dylan still performs but his best work was done in the first 10 years of his pro career. It's over ... but we just don't want to let go of what once was magic ...
Ticket Sales tell a different Story my dear. There are millions of People on this Planet who want to See Queen and Adam Lambert live. So this is reason enough to Continue! Of course it‘s Not Queen with Freddie. But Many People like this incarnation !! So if you don‘t want to See them, no Problem. Stay at home! Nobody gives a a notice!!!
While I don’t take to Adam that much, he has now been touring with them for over 10 years. So has the bass player Neil Fairclough. Spike Edney the keys player toured live with Queen in the 80s. 12 years is almost as long as the original line up toured for. Plus they don’t call themselves Queen. They tour as Queen and Adam Lambert. So having gone on for 10 mins about how it’s fine that Steely Dan can be two people with a load of session players coming in and out, apparently it’s a problem that 2 or (arguably) 3 surviving members of one of the greatest live acts in history are still going out under the original name and making it clear that it’s a collaboration with the singer? Shut up. At 75 ish years old Brian and Roger are in the middle of a tour to millions of people who adore the music. If they can still do it then why shouldn’t they? Good for them.
Also on Zep losing Bonzo ripped the heart out of them. Page and Plant took it very hard and Pagey had some serious drug issues in the 70s and 80s. They probably couldn’t have done it if they wanted to. Ps remember Celebration Day and the O2 gig? That was in 2007
I don't know about Uriah Heep & Jethro Tull but I do know that Deep Purple & Def Leppard still have most of their classic line-up and are still making new material every now and then. Whitesnake are finishing up I think.
I saw Yes, Genesis, Black Sabbath, Rolling Stones, Lynyrd Skynyrd, Fleetwood Mac et al in Birmingham, England during the early 1970s - all with original line ups. Does that give me bragging rights at a party?
If you’ve ever heard Brian May’s solo album, Back to the Light from the early 90’s, you’ll see that he also has a great voice. That was a key to Queen. Freddy did have the best voice, but the rest of the band sang so well, their studio sound was easily reproducible, live, as their backing vocals weren’t just Freddy’s voice on everything. The whole band could sing and that’s why they could produce their studio sound live.
I'm the biggest queen fan in the world but I'm sorry pal your talking bollocks they never got anywhere near the studio sound when they were live partly due to the fact they didn't want to but mostly because they didn't cheat and performed totally live unlike most
@@stevegarth6902 This is true, today's concerts are a lot of backing tracks, click tracks, and various queue's computer-generated functions incorporated within the broader production as a whole. Pop music on the radio drives me nuts to even listen to with its auto-tune and all of the sampling just isn't the same, it doesn't possess the rawness of earlier rock bands.
I laughed out loud when Michael first makes the statement "...and I'm tired of becoming a 401k for band members and rock artists who didn't have the sense enough to save up for a rainy day..."
Yes, a great line. Most rockers hit if big in their 20s, much too young and naive to think about investing and being smart about money. They think they’ll be on the top of the charts forever, and the big money will never stop. In most cases it DOES stop, after a few short years. By then the audience has moved on, they’ve made a few bad albums, band members change, and suddenly they’re broke has-beens in their 30s! Shame they were too busy just a few years ago pissing away those millions on mansions, cars, women, cocaine, etc. No sympathy here. A few hundred bucks a ticket? With inflation and gas at $5 a gallon (as I write this in June, 2022), plus logistics, parking, fighting the crowds, etc.? No thanks. I paid around $90 for the KISS reunion tour in 1996/97. Now THAT was worth it. But that’s enough. Other than a Zeppelin ’reunion’ with Jason Bonham, there’s NO band I’d shell out big bucks for. Ever. I’ve been to plenty of concerts over the years, have lotsa great memories nobody can take away, have many CDs and concert DVDs. I’m good, thanks! (and just as a side note, off the topic- Axl Rose fronting AC/DC? Yuck!)
I saw all these bands back in the day when they were good (and a fraction of the ticket price now) and only now support local bands. Something on UA-cam triggers a renewed interest in bands and I revisit my Apple collection to see if I missed anything. Funny how CCR was on your list and you mentioned the same things I re-discovered as I updated my collection. John Fogerty played MULTIPLE instruments including guitars, piano, keyboard , harmonica AND saxophone (I thought it MUST have been a guest musician but it was John!). The other 3 played ONE instrument. He also wrote and arranged the songs that all became hits yet the other 3 thought THEY were the heart of the band!!! Musicians never seem to realize how good they have it riding a genius’s coat tails.
But also some genii don’t realise how important their minions are to them.As in John Fogerty’s case,he wasn’t the same without the other three and I’m as big a John Fogerty fan you can find. Think of how many artists are the main man in a group go solo and find they don’t sell records and tickets as they once did then revert to using the name of the group that made them famous,the latest example being Ian Anderson bringing back the Jethro Tull group name.
Concerning Genesis Collins agreed to do one last tour for the band. This wasn’t for their remuneration because their net worth was already off the charts. They did it to give a finale for the fans and that’s why it was limited amount of shows.
Sad to say the Rock era is over it's been gone for quite a while even if they wrote new songs the corporate hacks who own the radio stations would never play their songs. I'm 57 and I have 40 years of Rock music to listen to and I'm thankful for it. Rock music had a pretty good run and it was amazing to witness✌
F top 40 radio anyway. It’s irrelevant. There are numerous other ways to get new great rock music. It’s not dead - you just have to know where to find it. I’m not giving up & neither should you.
Yeah, radio is garbage. Makes no sense for some shirt on rhe other side of the country to tell my local stations what lineups to play, instead of leaving it to D.J.'s and requests, charts. Although charts are rigged and unfair too.
@@richieboy6825 I'll leave the new stuff for the younger generation it doesn't mean anything to me. I'm happy with the music from the 60's 70's 80's and the Alternative Rock from the 90's 😉
I am shocked you didn't include kiss as one of the top! They only released 2 albums in the last 25 years and neither were good and nothing in the last 10 years. Gene has put his name on anything and everything he can possible make a buck on and the band hasn't been relevant since the 80's.
@@basilmarasco1975 Then you haven't. Neither have I but I've spoken to a couple of thousand people, made a joke and they laughed. Musicians love it on stage. They have a hard time putting down the instruments and stopping, because standing in front of those people and playing is hard to give up.
I met jon Anderson at the heath and harmony festival in 2005 in Santa Rosa, ca...and watched him perform...it was mesmerizing...amazing what a cool dude 😎
Big Stones fan here. Always have been. After their Steel Wheels tour, Bill Wyman retired. When asked if they will keep going, Keith said "well as long as i have Charlie Watts, we'll keep touring". After Charlie's sad passing i thought that would be it for them. But no. New drummer, new tour and my respect went out the window for them. I guess its all about the money. As if they need it !!
I’ve seen the Stones several times over the years, but I skipped the “We Sure Do Miss Charlie” tour. He was the glue that held that train wreck together live.
With you totally on the negative impact of both the "talent" shows ( on both sides of the Atlantic),back in the mid nineties I was working as an engineer at British summer festivals,one band's guitarist/songwriter wanted me to join on f-ing vocals based solely on the way I dressed.I told him I couldn't sing to save anybody's life and all he could do was go on about that no longer being an issue because of autotune.Thinking of all the actual musicians I'd had the privilege to work with,he was lucky I just walked away in disgust.
The Little River Band only has the bassist (that only joined the band in 80/81) from the early line up. Due to a nasty legal battle the original songwriting trio , who were the core of the band from day 1, lost the legal right to retain the LRB name. Now the current lineup are non-original members performing more as a tribute band.
They are a tribute band! Yeah, bassist Wayne Nelson was great on vocals for Night Owls, but the geniuses writing all those great hits, and singing that killer harmony, were Beebe Birtles, Glenn Shorrock,and Graeham Goble. Sucks what happened to them losing rights to the name.
As far a managers add Rush's manager, Ray Daniels, to your list of keepers. He was there throughout their entire 40+ year tenure and kept the band's vision and its members individual needs as his focus.
Rush is one of those rare cases, where the band basically made all the right decisions throughout their career...... not only they kept getting more prog-y and interesting after those first 2 albums, they even did it after disagreement from their label...... they didn't care and kept rockin...... and also the way they retired was fantastic...... great farewell tour with no gimmick..... many other bands announce a "farewell tour" just to crank up ticket sales, but then they don't quit and tour in a few years again cause they run out of money
@@itkojecockot If I understood it correctly, once Neil got sick he knew he wouldn't be able to go on, and Alex and Geddy realized that too, so they decided to go out with style and then call it quits. Neil lived on for six more years, but his illness was the kind from which you don't recover, and they knew that. Sad of course, but at least a very classy way of going about ending your career.
My two cents: Over the recent few years, I've noticed the young 30 somethings and some a bit younger catch on fire for 70s and 80s songs from popular rock bands of that (my) era. I think it has renewed a love and fondness for that musical genre. One of my nephews started learning to play "Simple Man" by Lynyrd Skynyrd. I believe that new found fire has, in part, inspired the money hungry (greedy?) and still living old rockers to hit the road and go on tour again to cash in. Unfortunately, the only thing is that many of them are no longer the trim, good-looking, young and vibrant rockers they were back in the day. Many look atrocious (horrible) and are more of a spectacle than spectacular! I think maybe they should stay home and just record new stuff in the studio? And, to be truthful, I wouldn't pay to see a band where not even one of the original members is present! That's just a glorified COVER BAND with rights to the band's name. smh Thanks for pointing out some truth, even if it hurts! Nice job, Michael!👍🏼
The wife and I have seen Skynyrd three times in the past three years. As long as Gary Rossington is playing, I could be convinced to go again. Now....Marshall Tucker Band, it breaks my heart, because we saw them back in the day, but Doug Gray needs to call it quits. With out Toy, Tommy or George....forget it. Doug can't sing anymore...they are just terrible. 38 Special...seen them twice in the last three years. Don Barnes is still an amazing performer and singer. We'd go see them in a heartbeat as long as Don is there.
@@MichaelNoland-TheBottomLine The trouble with modern day music is its mostly Rap. Why is it that a new Rap singer comes along with a top 10 hit they wind up going to jail or the mortuary? Rock isn't as popular among the young generation but it's not dead by a long shot!
There is video on YT of an 11 year old kid shredding through "Free Bird" like he was falling off a log. He is just standing there, nonchalantly, ripping through the solos. It's hilarious.
We've been having "discussions" like this at the local pub. And as the senior citizen of our little group I've been saying this for YEARS!!!!! And whole heartily agree with your take on Stevie Nicks. That insane warbling and prancing around stage dressed like some storybook fairy is cringe worthy at best. Hearing these guys try to hit notes they can't reach is sad. It reminds me of seeing Willie Mays in a MET UNIFORM!!!, Johnny Unitas in a CHARGERS UNIFORM!!, Or the last few fights from Mr. Muhammad Ali. And why is McCartney at 80 still trying to sing. Love the guy but..... come on Sir Paul. I could go on but......what do you do. I just refuse to give these guys a penny of my money. Just an old guy's opinion.
The Johnny U in a Chargers uniform, now that's a low blow and a perfect analogy. They continue to perform for the love of performing and music in general, their first true love, they will take it to their grave as that.
Paul certainly doesn't need the money, either. That guy has an estimated worth of just over a billion dollars. He's arguably the richest musician on the planet. Hang it up and call it a career.
I saw Sabbath with Ozzy, Iomi, and Geezer in 2017. It was good to see 3 of the 4 original guys performing together. The tour was called "The End" and I think it was the last tour under the name Black Sabbath. It was a very enjoyable show.
I saw all 4 together on the reunion in the late 90s, just about the time Bill was starting to get too ill to handle the rigors of touring. I had seen Ozzy with Randy, Jake and Zak on guitar, but Tony and the old guys were just special. Bill was a truly tremendous drummer.
@@steveshattah they COULD have Bill Ward...... Bill said he was ready for the tour, but they offered him ridiculously less money than rest of the band got..... and who else could've been behind such SHITTY deal if not Sharon Osbourne, right
I was fortunate enough to see Black Sabbath on the last tour before Ozzie left the band and had the blizzard of Ozz with Randy. The sad part was that Van Halen open the show and blew them off the stage. At the end everyone was chanting Halen Halen Halen… I think that was a 1978 when Van Halen hit the scene and we’re untouchable for the next five years or so
@@itkojecockot very possible but also very possible that there's lots to this story we don't know about. I did read that Bill was the only one who thought he was ready. Nobody else seemed to agree with him. I'm real glad they did that tour and album and like everybody else I think it would have been even better if Bill could have been there with them.
Hi Michael, I just discovered you and this is the second video I watched of yours, I 100% agree with you and your outlook on this video! You are very knowledgeable and I appreciate that in a person and can respect them and their views! Thanks for doing these videos I'm really enjoying them! ♥️
There's nothing wrong with enjoying older music. I can sit for hours listening to my old albums. It's just when these bands don't write new material and rely on classic songs that they can't even perform as well as they used to, that I do have an issue. That's one of the reasons the remaining members of Led Zeppelin don't tour anymore. Robert Plant said EXACTLY that, that he never wanted to become a jukebox act.
And Amen to the blessed Led Zeppelin for that, Rob! True Rock Gods live forever! In our minds and hearts, and the true giants guard their legacy with a fervor! Like Jimmy Page tending to LZ’s catalogue!!!
@@MichaelNoland-TheBottomLine More like Page tweaking the catalog every few years claiming 'new material'.😂 He just keeps raking in $$$ on old material. Has been when it comes to guitar playing. He probably has hands as soft as one of his daughter's now.
Was a big Who fan during the 70s and when Keith Moon died I figured that was it. Then Kenny Jones stepped up and the Who did their infamous 79/80 tour. I caught them in at the beginning of 1980 and I have to admit it was one the greatest shows I ever saw. Just the 4 of them (plus Rabbit on keyboards) on stage. Sadly no destroyed guitars or drums...
I have a friend who saw the Who around that time, '79 or '80. His verdict: "Best live show I ever saw." And this is someone who rarely missed a concert. It was either in Toronto or Buffalo he saw them.
Yeah saw them in 82 I believe with Jones and thought they were pretty good. Would of loved to see them with Keith Moon for sure. But at least 3 of the originals where there when I saw them and John was quite a bass player!
@@slagit I saw them with Keith in 76 in Boston. A make-up show from when he passed out behind his drum set. They knew they owed us a great show and most definitely delivered. Saw them again in Paris in 79 with Kenny Jones. A 3 hour show, no opener, and they were fantastic. Actually saw them again that summer in Nuremberg in a festival with Cheap Trick , who also played great. Shortly after, came Cincinnati and the tragedy.
@@scottodonnell7121 Wow you saw some great WHO shows! Bummed I have not see Cheap Trick yet and I am amazed I haven't yet. Used to buy all their albums in high school. Man that feels so long ago.
Saw them in Sept. ' 79 ' with Kenny Jones. Could he fill Keith Moon's shoes? No. He didn't need to, because he was Kenny Jones and didn't try to. Much agreed...They were great. They were still The Who. Now they're Townshend and Daltrey.
I understand where he's coming from. Some groups have been reincarnated far to long. Not enough of the originals in the band, simply a tribute band for big bucks is what you're getting. Sometimes that's OK too if it's the only way to relive some nostalgia in your mind. Dude is absolutely correct on all of it.
I finally got to see Genesis live. I think I would have been happier if that was a dream left unrealized. I love Phil Collins, but his voice is gone and I was very disappointed. I would have been much happier if the band had built a whole show around their studio work *_using_* their studio recordings and presented *_that_* live.
Yep, I see what you mean. It's like all that stuff Phil Collins used to do on previous tours where he used to beat his tambourine on the live versions of "I know what I like" and he larked around on stage while doing it. Excellent stuff 😎👍 But it's all a memory nowadays 😐 Because I couldn't get to see them live this time, I had to rely on UA-cam videos instead, the Phil Collins sitting down throughout stuff. The choice of songs was excellent, even though some of them were obviously shortened. But the feel of the footage I saw made me realise there was something missing somehow... like it's hard to explain. Like yourself, if I'd actually gone there and witnessed it live, I might have felt a tad disappointed.
I saw Genesis in 83 and 08, and that was pushing it. I had tix for the last tour in Chicago, and I gave them away. It would have been too depressing to watch.
I've seen Jon Anderson doing his solo performance, I saw him on tour with Rabin and Wakeman a few years ago and I'm seeing his show again in July. Thoroughly happy with it.
I saw Jon Anderson solo. I’m a huge Yes fan, I’ve seen them in all their different members. Jon has still got a great voice and shared stories thru out the years. And I didn’t have tipsy a fortune, I was in the first row for $49.00!!!!!
Love it. Grace Slick had it right. Most groups are as you say tribute bands. Also, I have made it a rule (with a few exceptions) not to go to concerts where the original lead singer is 65 years or older. They now croak vs sing. You are essentially paying big bucks for backup singers/musicians.
Then you obviously haven't seen or heard Dennis DeYoung, we saw him live (at 72)! He was still amazing vocally, and concert almost 3 hrs! Also check out Michael Sweet (STRYPER).
Steve Howe is not an original member of YES. He is their second guitarist after Peter Banks. I have never seen them live and have not attended a concert since 2009!
You’re absolutely right, LJ! It’s just that wasn’t quite the fan of that incarnation of the band as I was of Anderson, Wakeman, Squire, Howe, & Bruford! They were the consummate line-up for me personally! But I know their are fans out there who love the line up you mention! So Kudos, brother!👌❤️
100% in with this one. As I sometimes chime in on the progressive rock forums, I saw them in their prime, that's all I need. I have my memories and don't want to _ruin_ those. Yes _is_ a tribute band now, almost spiraling into self-parody. I saw them over half a dozen times in the early-late 70's (not Buggles though), and even really enjoyed their Rabin period stuff. The last time I saw them was the Open Your Eyes tour. Losing Jon was enough for me, but the band died with Chris. And Genesis? I'm going to spend $250 to see Phil sit in a chair? Nope, I saw them when it counted, and Phil did an awesome job filling in some big shoes - maybe even doing a better job. An incredible drummer as well. But really?
@@carlsaganlives6086 who you talking to? RE: Mike's rant - could not agree MORE with YES nomination and very well spoken. I've seen Jon Anderson a few times solo (or, rather his tribute band 😉) and it is a great evening! I don't know what Steve Howe's issues are, but he's ruined YES.
Michael, I love your no-bullshit candor. Fleetwood Mac never worked creatively without Buckingham. I love Genesis and Phil Collins and it hurts me to see Phil in his current condition. I caught them on their latest tour for nostalgia reasons and while they tried to compensate for Phil’s limitations with an overall decent presentation, I wish they’d kept the amazing 2007 tour as the valedictory finale. Cool Spidey tee btw! 🕷
@@MichaelNoland-TheBottomLine Thankfully, I got to see them for free on this latest tour. Don’t think I would have paid this time around otherwise. Still a decent show, but of course not the same as when Phil was full-strength and able to drum.
My wife wanted to go see Genesis ( who I love ) we would have had to fly to the city, costing us hundreds for the trip, not to mention the price to see the show. All that time and expense to watch Collins, not move a muscle, hunched over in a chair for the duration. This is not the way these music legends should be remembered.
Or at least not in such a large setting! But they are trying to just get through the tour, and then retire! It’s almost like they’ve said, we can only do so many shows, so lets set them up, and knock them down! So sad, David!
That's why I didn't want to see the Last Domino tour. Phil Collins in his day was an amazing frontman and drummer,but that last Genesis tour was heartbreaking to watch and listen to on You Tube. 😢
I agree with the list with the exception of Styx. I saw them earlier this year and they were truly fantastic. Two original members performed at the show and despite not being an original member Tommy Shaw sang so many hits I would consider him just as important as any of the founding members. The new songs they performed were also truly exceptional. I enjoyed the video though. It was really entertaining and you made a lot of great points!
@@FOXLIES …certainly no Dennis DeYoung penned songs…but Tommy Shaw songs, YES! BTW, Dennis can’t even play his own songs like the record. He’s lost his feel and touch from decades ago.
Well said. Like paying top dollar at a Ferrari dealership, but the salesperson sells you a Fiero with a body kit, and tells ya “Just close your eyes and pretend.” Sadly, I think you missed my all time favorite rock band, “The Who”. For many years I’ve been called (by myself) The Biggest Who Fan On The Planet. I’m 53 so I narrowly missed The Moon Era, but I did see every show in the NYC area starting with Shea Stadium in ‘82, right up till ‘02 10th row at MSG, right after John died. At least I finally got to see Pete DESTROY a fully loaded Strat’ (‘00 at Jones Beach). They were really getting rolling again with Zach Starkey, but as soon as OX ‘left’ that was it for me. I knew it was ‘over’. John’s playing, till the day he kicked, was SO LOUD that, even at their ‘advanced’ age, the rest of the band HAD to play LOUD just to be heard.., just like the good old days. You wanna be noticed- play louder- play better. Plus- Johns mammoth talent, playing all the leads as well as holding the bottom, can not be replicated by anyone on stage. Without John to compete with, the band was finally able to turn it down and in doing so they became a very respectable ‘oldies’ band. The unpredictable, dangerous, glorious ‘noise’ coming from the stage, formerly created by four (sometimes 5) men has now been replaced by a flotilla of very well rehearsed musicians, pleasantly filling in all the aural voids that never existed when it was just, as Roger used to say “Four to the floor and a roar”. The present day audience doesn’t need to worry about getting hit with windmilling microphones, drumsticks, guitar splinters or deafening levels of VOLUME. The songs are great, and at Rogers’ request, the air is free of nasty pot smoke, and playfully yelling ‘Get on with it!!’ at Pete is no longer tolerated. I’ll always LOVE The Who- on a bad night they were great.., on a good night they were The Greatest Live Rock Act on The Planet. Nowadays they’re entertaining, very good. But so are cheeseburgers. Long Live The Who- Long Live Rock!
@@MichaelNoland-TheBottomLine Thx man.., can’t believe anyone would actually read all that, lol. You were brutally honest, saying what needed to be said about some truly great bands I figured I may as well come clean.., even though it kinda hurt🙃.
Glad I seen every single band you mentioned. Back when they were raw and real. Tickets were a whopping 8 to 12.00. Shirts were 10.00,Tour Book 8.00..For about 15.00 we would get 3 or 4 bands.. Ah,....memories..
I remember seeing REO Speedwagon, Blue Oyster Cult, and some others I can't remember at a festival for $15. In contrast, my boss at work paid $3000 for two VIP tickets to U2 a few years back.
I am inclined to agree ! I believe there are a good number of bands and solo artists who I think just do it for the art and self enjoyment and have made big money out of the industry ! Getting paid for it is great ! I don't think its the main reason !
Of all the people from the 60s and 70s still performing, I think the best is Ann Wilson. She's my age, and while I didn't know her, we went to the same high school. Her new album with the band she's put together the last few years is great. Still does some old Heart hits but also new songs. She covers songs that mean something to her and makes them her own. I can't think of anyone who covers songs better. I'd definitely pay to see her again and probably will at the final show of the current tour when it gets to Seattle. This is my first time seeing your channel, now I'll have to look up more of your vids!
Ann and Nancy are good examples of "seasoned" performers who continue to be great entertainers. I enjoy their cover of "Stairway To Heaven" with Jason Bonham.
Also saw King Crimson's 50th show Fripp is Crimson. Covered the history of the band Three amazing drummers in front would pay 300 a ticket 🎫 to see that show again. I have seen in the 70's,80's 90' and again the last show in 2019 Crimson and Fripp never disappoint the exemption
I agree with you. When Layne Staley died in 2004, Alice 'N Chains took an break but they found a new lead singer. They continued on. I wished they had changed their name.
you're absolutely correct, when Duvall tries to sing the older songs of Layne's it just sounds terrible. There was a great tribute band with an incredible lead singer, that everyone thought should have stepped in but now they have Duvall. Check out this kid singing Love Hate Love, just absolutely spot on. ua-cam.com/video/AcD6CLRLLJE/v-deo.html
This is sometimes difficult. In 2013 I had ONE chance in my life to see Johnny Winter live. He was in really bad shape, barely alive, could only stand up during the first song, and his playing was clearly nowhere near what it once was. But me and my friends had the feeling we were seing a legend live, probably for the last time (which turned out to be the case). In all honesty it was a sub par concert by any standard, but it still is a memory I am glad to have.
I was lucky enough to see "Johnny Winter And" at my university. As a guitar player myself I was blown away. After that I saw him on that big blues tour with Muddy Waters. The last time I saw him was at a local theater as a solo act. He was three sheets to the wind, drinking from a huge wine skin, barely getting through most of the set and with only one song that showed his faded brilliance. The theater was quite large and there were only a few hundred people in attendance, most of whom had no appreciation of the blues whatsoever. I was in a local bar/club band and the bass player's brother did some of the photographs for one of Winter's albums and was a guest at one of Winter's birthday parties. Winter lived in our region. We also could have gone but as we had a gig that weekend and had to play. Rick Derringer was there and the guys did some jamming. Boy were we jealous but we enjoyed Roddy's stories of the event nonetheless. -dave
@@dgwachtel I saw a Johnny Winter documentary recently and I am very surprised he lived as long as he did. His drugging and drinking were legendary. Apparently the last few years of his life he lived clean and sober. I also didn`t know that he was virtually blind for the majority of his life which explains why he would sit for most of his performances like Phil Collins..
@@jamesklassen5285 Another fun Johnny Winter anecdote. I was working for a small computer start up company and my boss used to hang out at a local club that booked semi famous bands that hadn't quite made "superstar" status. He saw Johnny in attendance in the crowd on several occasions, three sheets to the wind and rocking out to the music. Johnny wasn't entirely blind but I guess he was close, particularly in his later years. During that "Johnny Winter And" concert he was roaming around the stage like a caged tiger while playing his heart out. His eyesight seemed to be OK then, he didn't trip or fall off the stage. He and brother Edgar were albinos and bad eyesight is one of the medical problems they are prone to. There were two drummers IIRC. Edgar switched instruments, playing drums and that guitar like organ thingie as well as regular organ. When they performed "Rock and Roll Hoochie Koo" it was amazing with Johnny and Rick Derringer trading leads! Years later we covered it our band, it got everyone up and dancing and was big fun to play :). I don't know if anyone will ever surpass Johnny's skill and innovative bottleneck wizardry. RIP Johnny! -Dave
@@jhowardduff692 Just visited your site. Loved your bio. It kind of tracks my own musical trajectory, at least until I stopped playing out in 1972. I watched your video for "Ain't No Grave", nice! Our playing styles are quite similar. Tight band and that girl sure can sing, great set of pipes. During one of my band shakeups we had two girls - turned out to be a disaster. We pivoted to playing a lot of country rock as the lineup could no longer pull off CSN&Y and Chicago. A couple of years after that, and many dramas later, I got fed up and quit playing out. I may have mentioned it before but just after I quit I got a surprise call from a former near great drummer in my band who was playing for the "Jam Factory" and was invited to join the band. The only drummer that I was personally acquainted with that was better than him was Dicky Charles (RIP) from "Mother Flag and Country". I declined. It might have been a mistake as these guys opened for the Allmans on at least one of their tours, and the way I was to be integrated into the band was attractive. For the Chicago stuff I had tried my best to reproduce the horn parts on guitar. Since "Jam Factor" was a horn band I think that was why I got the invite. I made sporadic and somewhat halfhearted attempts to get another band together but only found one musician, a base player with a great bluesy voice that was on the same page as I was. He was living down south and was visiting a mutual friend who played (sort of) keys here in upstate NY. We had about a three hour jam session and loved every minute of it. He had planned to return and we were going to form a new band but he never did come back to these parts. A long lost cousin, Dick Sagendorf, who I actually met at an audition, and I get together to jam once in awhile. He actually played in my band long after it had traveled well down the road to obscurity and embarrassment. He just recently retired from playing out due to health issues as well as the fact that jobs that pay anything are basically nonexistent up here. His day job was amp tech at Parkway Music. A couple of guys you may have crossed paths with maybe: John Tucci ("Elger Band"), Mick Richards (The aforementioned drummer), Bruce Baker, Blues/Jazz keys (Believe it or not these were their real names!), Bob Hebler keys/vocals. good players, hard workers and easy to get along with. Bruce had intended to attend Berkley but we lost touch so I don't know if he did or not. I've got a couple of DAW tests that I did a few years ago on my site, a version of "Crossroads" (two guitar tracks and one bass track) and the other just some riffing to a slow blues backing track. They're a bit sloppy due to lots of rust and not being able to hear the monitor very well - currently trying out other DAWs and guitar effects. I had to sell my good equipment other than my 365 NS Rickenbacker which is in semi retirement due to needing a fret job. Anyhow - a pleasure to make your acquaintance and will definitely subscribe. -dave
Rock n Roll and Classic Rock will never die. Good music is timeless, I also love the music of Mozart which I listen to all the time,and I believe he existed about 225 years ago and his music is just as fresh today in 2022.
I saw Yes live in 2014, a few months before Chris Squire passed away. They played all of The Yes Album, Fragile, and Close to the Edge plus two songs from their latest album at the time, Heaven and Earth. The audience, mostly over 60, loved the classics. But they only politely clapped for the new songs. I'm not sure if it was because they didn't know or care about the new songs or if the new album was really just a tepid offering and the fans acknowledged that. But you are right when you say the fans are also guilty. We always seem to hold up anything new to the band's classic output from 40, 50 years ago.
@@johnward9146 yeah bro! $10 four- finger bag of Mexican on a Friday. By the time you cleaned the stems and seeds it was a two-finger bag gone by Sunday night!!
my favorite band is Iron Maiden and they've had a fairly consistant line through out their career. they changed one guitarist out on their second album, then got bruce on their third and finnally changed drummers on their fourth album in 83. their 83 line up was constant till 90 when they changed a guitarist again , then bruce left in 93 their 90's they hung in there doing new but still doing new stuff , but then in 2000 , they got bruce back and that other guitarist came back as well , but this time they didn't ditch his replacement and just rolled on with three guitarist. it's been that same line up since then ... 23 years which is basically their 83 line up plus one guitarist. so out of a 40+ year career their line up has been almost the same as it is today for 30 of those years. and man do they still put on a good show and deliver musically. and i've seen them countless times from 96 to 2019(the last time i saw them live)
@@joshfeatherstone8546 yep ,also note first time i saw them live was when they were with blaze . i love bruce he certainly has a stage presence , but there's been nothing (experience wise) like seeing iron maiden at a club that only housed 2,500 people. only time I ever got to shake some of the band's hands at the end of the show. seriously the guard rail only had a foot and half space between the stage and the crowd. No seats. after the show Steve and gang were leaning down across the rail and shaking as many fans hands as they could. i also saw them a few times at a slightly bigger place (sunken gardens san antonio) with bruce and adrian back, the crowd there was about 6,000. bigger stage didn't have the tight rail spacing for the band to shake fans hands. but still no seats. compared to the dozen times i've seen them at the woodlands (a seated ampitheatre) those shows at sunken gardens and that first one at the millenium club in houston were always the most memorable to me.
I saw Genesis, as much as it hurt not seeing Phil being able to move like when I saw them during the Invisible Touch Tour, he managed to sound spectacular how I have no idea sitting down, but he sorted it out, but his SON, Nick that kid is a star, and you could listen to him, he plays like his father and you just knew Phil put him through the paces and had him prepared, he didn't miss anything IMO.. Phil had to be proud of him.
Yup totally agree, especially with Stevie Nicks. Lindsey was always the one great, under-rated guitarist/songwriter I gravitated to, so what if he caused all the problems.
You know he didn’t even cause all of the problems! Stevie-Sleep-around had her share of the blame! He just wore his rage badly! But he seems to have learned along the way! Thanx, Richard!👌
That's my attitude. My work life was in a very different creative field, but everyone I ever knew kept on the obnoxious person who did the best work while others begged to have them fired. From the replies here, though, a lot of people would fire the best band member to make life more pleasant. And maybe at this age, that's the smart thing, life being short and all.
I guess you have to credit Grace Slick for quitting, though, she thought older folks playing the rock game were ludicrous, and said so. She retired to paint.
Unfortunately your right, but at least with Santana we got an evolving guitar player, one of Rock’s very best btw, and a changing and valid art release with each album!
Imho, they put out some GREAT albums after III: Caravanserai, Borboleta, Moonflower, Amigos... all with different flavors and influences. But no arguement that the 1st 3 records were their most mindblowing. For my money the 1st Journey album mined that same territory to great success. I think that record was the truer successor to III than was Caravanserai. Their second and third weren't the same but still rocked HARD. After that, pffft...
Im sure that every band member mentioned here from the 70s or 80s, would have been amazed if told that they would still be playing the same material 40 or 50 years later. The "hope I die before I get old" philosophy, is so easy for young people to believe in, because no one of the age they were then, could imagine getting old. However, getting old is a reality for these musicians now, and their priorities have completely changed. If you've toured all your life in a big named band, and are capable of playing live, why should you give up now? You've done what you do for almost your entire life, and love what you do. Many probably crave the continued exaltation from fans and fear they can't live without it. For many of these musos, retirement would be like losing an arm. That's why they go on stage, when its clear they've been beyond their best for decades, with croaky voices and arthritis that compromises the accuracy of those old guitar runs. Keeping going for as long as possible is what all old people have to do though, until the batteries go completely flat, and that's in all fields of endeavour, and its more important for their well being than that myth they might have carried in their head when they were 25, that I'll be too old for all this at 40, so I'll retire to maintain my self respect, and my super star reputation. They do it for as long as possible, because there's no other way of facing up to old age...........
Huh? Mick Jones is in Foreigner. And there will never be a Foreigner once he is done. But Led Zeppelin did it right - member dies, done! Unlike The Who. They should have been done in 1979 just like Led Zeppelin in 1980.
You got to remember This is a musicians job they need to make a living . Iconic. old Tymers musicians get it together Form The Sensational Senior Citizen Dam Jam Band 😎🇺🇸🍺
I really liked the New Cars with Todd Rundgren. Todd showed the utmost respect for those classics and even heavied them up a bit. If anyone could fit in with that band, it's Todd.
And old punk bands reform too . Sad but the idealistic hippies and punks turned into what they used to hate .Greedy bussiness men cynically explioting their name to get their fans to part with their cash .
There's nothing more quaint than 60+ year old punks still having mohicans and studs! I'm 62 (16 in 1976); me and my friends ignored punk and continued to buy prog. As working class kids we just thought punk was not relevant to us.
There's no substitute for all original band members but the decades have taken their toll! Without Christine, Fleetwood Mac isn't Fleetwood Mac! I could care less about Stevie. You're brutal but you make good points.
It’s time for the howling and screaming to come to an end in todays metal scene and return to something people can understand and appreciate. These old farts, and I’ve seen them all in their prime, need to retire and support young talent and renew Rock and Roll. They have a vital role to play and that’s to become the teachers and mentors for the next generation.
The Beatles did it wrong. Lost most of their money in a bad business venture, then lost almost the rest of it to lawyers. Oh yeah they also filmed themselves breaking up.
Peter Banks(RIP), Tony Kaye and Bill Bruford had all left yes for varying reasons by 1972 leaving only Jon Anderson and Chris Squire (RIP) as originals before the band became really big.
Kiss deserves honorable mention. They should have retired twenty years ago.
I saw them at SPAC 22 years ago and they were awful.Went along with a friend and gave them another chance or whatever.That was the finish of Kiss as far as we were concerned.Never a big fan of them really.
Let’s just put them to the Top of the list! #1, KISS! Thanx B for setting the record straight! Never liked them except for their one live album!
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They should've quit an hour after the started.
I agree but I think it was 30 years ago they should have retired
How the hell did Kiss not get a mention?! They're doing their final final final final tour.... and their infighting is legendary.
They are still putting on a GREAT show and filling stadiums. Why would they?
Is KISS really a rock band ?
@@MrAmi69 kisses a money making machine did not rock ‘n’ roll Taking money under false pretenses Bottom line Simmonsis is using
people as fools Not Fans But Sap Suckers Stanley has been caught lip-Syncing pre-recorded music, Kiss is Pulling a Milli Vanilli That’s why my friend
Name another rock band that made a idisco song 1979 I was made for loving MONEY Oh I can’t get enough. Led Zeppelin Black Sabbath Deep Purple Jethro Tull Yes etc DISCO SUCKS Where a rock ‘n’ roll band 😎✌️👍❤️
@@slammingsammy9617 And still people have a GREAT time at their shows. Why does the fact that YOU don't like them even matter when there are LOADS of people that do. You don't like that people have a good time?
I was waiting and waiting for Queen to make the list, and you didn't disappoint with giving them the number one spot. Freddie had one wish for his band mates, "Don't make me boring." Well, they not only achieve doing that, but continue to stomp on Mercury's grave.
Totally agree. At the Queen’s jubilee concert in 2022, Queen (the band) were lacklustre, going through the motions. Adam Lambert looked as if he wanted to get back to eating pies. A terrible waste of time.
So totally agree with you Michael and Toy Box. I’m an older rocker chick from the 70s (I’ll be 70 in a month). From the first time I heard Queen in 1974, I was an immediate fan, but WTH are Brian and Roger trying to prove. Brian is supposedly worth over £210mil, Roger is worth over £ 200mil, John (even though not playing/touring gets royalties) is worth over £130mil, and Freddie’s estate also continues to glean monies. Queen + Adam Lambert is a sad showing for Brian and Roger. Their performance at the Queen’s jubilee was an embarrassment to the band they once were. Brian keeps saying that Freddie would love what they’re doing, but I wonder? The music is theirs, but it sounds old, tired, and lacking the passion that Freddie and John brought to performances. My old vinyl sounds much better. Michael is right…Brian and Roger need to write some new music and perform just the two of them.
Freddie was John's friend in the band, John Deacon stopped touring and recording with them because he believes there is no Queen without Freddie.
Lynyrd Skynyrd definitely deserves a mention.
Lynyrd Skynyrd died when they were in the plane crash and these guys now are just a bunch of has beens that should be ashamed of them self
Been gone for many decades, sadly.
Excellent point!
I forgot to make that exact comment yesterday after enjoying Mike's video, Thanks a lot, I subbed, 🙂
Gary said they were a cover band
Grace Slick is right about there is a certain age when being a rock star is just silly.
at 35
Grace Slick has been retired/out of the public eye for 20 years
Looking at you Stevie Nicks
@@laurallewien2165 Yeah, even when young she sounded like a bullfrog in a hailstorm.
And the Rolling Stones
I think there's at least one thing that you either forgot or just never thought about.
°Bands used to make a good portion of their money from album sales, but since digital downloads have taken over this is no longer the case. Most rock stars weren't known for saving & investing their money for later so they can retire, so they had to hit the road "one more time" while they're still able to.. Look up the year digital downloading took off & the year classic rock bands started doing their reunion tours & you'll see they coincide with each other.
Trust me alot of these old farts flogging on have not been ruined by Digital downloads. Pure greed and egos. I feel more sorry for younger bands and bands that were not stadium fillers years ago
Damn! Spot on exact! The digital age has greatly deprived those acts, and, actually many current acts, of rightful compensation and numerous instances of literally zero compensation for any recording once it is online.
Van Morrison should never retire from touring. I have seen him in a small venue in Belfast x3 and in front of 15K in Philly. That old dude is timeless and still has it!
Saw him in Glastonbury in the late 80’s and he was great. Saw him in Glastonbury Cathedral a few years ago and he way past his best.
💯
I'm so glad I grew up in the 70s/80s...saw all the great CLASSIC bands in their prime.
Yes deep purple rainbow dio UFO triumph acdc Judas priest molly hatchet van halen journey kiss boc foghat srv Sammy hager msg Elton John seen a lot of them.
I can see this guy crashing cocktail parties just hoping he will find someone (not old enough to have seen the great bands of the 70s and 80s) braving about a classic concert they just saw. Sad!
I have to wonder if Mr. Perfect host has even seen any of the bands he’s insulting. He took some shots at Styx that were CLEARLY unjust and NOT deserved!!! Styx is still playing with 3 of their classic line up, one of which (Tommy Shaw) has written and sung a good amount of their best songs. BTW, he AND the rest of the band still sound INCREDIBLE!!!!! To set the record straight, the original drummer died many years ago and the original keyboardist / other lead vocalist left due to creative differences and ego. I suggest you go see them and it won’t cost you the $200 you seem to be found of (name) dropping.
Me also...I had a brother 4 yrs older that started taking me to shows at 13. 1972.
@sixslinger you got that right…I feel the same way…
Yeah and simultaneously ruined all the generations after you 😂
It's true that Sabbath changed with Ronnie Dio, but Heaven & Hell is an absolute monster classic album, and in no way a loss of quality in output from the band.
Changing the name to Heaven And Hell was the way to go there.
Mob Rules great album.
@@vanplq8841 lol
@@edwardmclaughlin719 haha yes its actually laughable that how much it is underrated.
Dio over Ozzy anyday
Totally agree
Reminds me of the joke:
My high school prom hired the real Foghat band because we couldn’t afford the Foghat tribute band.
RIP Dave and Rod.
The Stones still write new material but who goes to hear that? Their best material ended back in the 70s, it's a greatest hits show with two original members and a bunch of session musicians.....
I go to hear that Henry! But I also don’t knock fans who want the hits! So do I!
But I want new material also! Not just one or two songs from their latest album of 12-14 songs!
Paul McCartney has done this ever since he restarted touring in 89-90! Only MyBrave Face, This One, Figure of Eight, & Put It There, from what many believe is at least one of his better effort!
In 76, he performed just the hits from Speed of Sound, but his Venus & Mars & Band on the Run albums had never been toured out, and by that time, he even had hits that weren’t on actual albums!
Adding the 5 only Beatle songs, were brilliant! Besides, Speed of Sound might be an interesting album, but one of his weaker efforts, Too many substandard songs sang by members (Not Denny Though!) I didn’t want to hear!
But one of his strongest efforts, sales wise! I much prefer his much maligned ‘Back to the Egg’! Now there is one his very best albums! But nobody liked it!
Go figure!😉
The Stones can barely manage one new song every two years on average by now. Their latest album of new material came out all the way back in 2005.
In around '70 rock bands were putting out 2 sometimes even 3 new records a year. Now you're lucky if you hear of something within the same decade of the last release.
the stones are junkies they just can’t stop😩
The two original members are the songwriters, and Ron Wood has been in the band longer than most people here have been alive.
Can't believe Grand Funk Railroad isn't on your list. After the original three members split up, Don Brewer and Mel Schacher continued using the name. They haven't put out any new material since then and now have three other guys doing what Mark Farner did from the start. He (Mark) wrote 90+% of the songs they did and the current lineup is nothing more than a cover band.
I agree! I saw them in Austin in 2005 and only one guy on the stage had ever even met one of the original lineup.
I saw them in the mid '90's. Talk about awful ! They came out dressed as if they were still in their hay-day, opened with "Foot Stompin' " which wasn't to bad but it was downhill from there.
@@billbeliakoff5589 Yea, they're doing the State Fair and Casino circuit now. As the phrase goes, "No Farner, No Funk". What an embarrassment.
The fake GFR band is a disgrace. Bruce Kulick playing through a cranked Marshall while trying to replicate old Mark Farner soulful licks is a bad joke and something to avoid at all costs.
Gary don't know where your from but the last time I seen GFR was in Chicago Mark Farmer was being the egotistical A - Hole he always was bragging about how good he was when from off left side of stage came Eric Clapton and blew his ass off stage he stormed off it was funny as hell Don Brewer stopped playing just to watch him play
And this conversation is exactly why Zep did it the right way.
When it’s done, know when to walk away and preserve the legacy.
They only toured in the mid to late 70s to pay off their endless stream of lawsuits
@@shaunduffy5180 that may very well be the most idiotic comment in the history of the internet. Congratulations. That's quite an accomplishment
@@shaunduffy5180 Tired and old… they borrowed and built on an old library of blues riffs and lyrics that had been borrowed and built on decades before they ever did.
Difference was that they were a big, fat, successful, and wealthy target, unlike the untold numbers of poor kids who did the same in obscurity and had nothing to give but the shirts off their backs.
Zep spun it on it’s head and turned it into gold. That old blues stuff was handed down for generations, they just spun it better.
Better get a new argument. That shit is old, rehashed, and tired.
@@jetcat132 nowhere near as rich as u think jr.
@@jetcat132 nope!
I'm surprised you didn't have Lynyrd Skynyrd on the list, still touring with one original member left. I'm so glad I had the chance to see them in '77 before they had their tragedy. I have to say I agreed with a lot of your points you made, new subscriber here!
Amen to this, Greg! I really need to do a part 2 on this video, maybe a part 3! My next one will address Sir James Paul McCartney! Sad story there!
@@MichaelNoland-TheBottomLine Mc Cartney?? Be nice. I actually haven't seen him live since the Beatles. He played 2 shows in Seattle here, recently but I couldn't afford the tickets . I tried to watch one of his videos of one of his current concerts and his voice was a bit weak. I have the concert tape,Back in the U.S.A and I really enjoyed that. I haven't been impressed that much with recent music. Given his history and his overall genius, well , just be nice.
That original member retired last year from LS.
They will be at the Big E Fair here in MA come Fall. Retire...
I beg ur pardon
Lynard skynard is still awesome
As far as older artist go, Alice Cooper and Sammy Hagar both are still amazing.
YES COOPER IS STILL GREAT AND PUTTING OUT NEW MUSIC, GREAT LIVE BAND. I GREW UP WITH THE ORIGINAL BAND STILL LOVE THEM. NO ALICE WITHOUT NEAL SMITH, DENNIS DUNAWAY, MICHAEL BRUCE AND GLEN BUXTON
Artist who take care of themselves Will rock forever🔥 just common sense✌️Then one day go to Rock n’ Roll Heaven 🙏
Vince hasn't been worth a crap since "Welcome To My Nightmare". His poser metal crap has no heart. When your biggest post-70s hit was written and produced by freaking Jon Bon Jovi, you've turned to the dark side. But his early catalog ensures his standing as one of the coolest stylists and trendsetters in rock. That the gods for Frank Zappa's eye for talent and Bob Ezrin's sonic genius for pulling the brilliance out of those lads. Michael Bruce's music writing made his friend one of a very rare set of greats.
Sammy's voice has been shot for decades.
Don't get me wrong: I LOVE how great these performers WERE. The Alice Cooper Group (Band) changed American Rock as we know it, and put out some really, really brilliant tunes. Sammy had one of the greatest voices in Rock history. His work with Montrose and early solo stuff ("Red", "This Planet's On Fire", "Turn Up The Music", "Heavy Metal") was fun, rollicking jams. And he remains a really good guy
@@burningoldsage4012 Respectfully disagree
@@jdmcd3873 - And I wish with all my heart I shared your opinion.
I remember seeing The Byrds back in the 90's with only the drummer as the original member. The set list was essentially their greatest hits album. This was at a carnival. It was pretty sad.
Isn't anybody's set list essentially their greatest hits album ?
This absolutely needed to be said. I wont even debate what bands should or should not be on that list. The underlying point is solid. There's something to be said about "It's better to burn out than to fade away."
Yeah it's a pity Neil Young doesn't take his own advice.
@@ianjameson3604 I bailed on Neil when they started releasing his albums in alternative formats, i.e. Living With War...w/a 50 piece choir and three weeks later the stripped down version that I wanted 😡
@@jeffclement2468 For some reason Neil now seems to think that everything he's ever recorded be it live recordings or studio sessions is of interest to the public. I'm not a compleatist and although Neil Young is one of my favourite artists especially his seventees and ninetees musical peaks I really don't want to hear his every utterance. Someone close to him should tell him that sometimes less is more. Take Kate Bush for example. She's one really classy lady who when she reached her creative peak and had nothing further to say musically decided to retire from the industry. She doesn't need to lift a finger but is still making millions and has been introduced to a whole new audience thanks to her music being used in the hit Netflix show Stranger Things.
#FACTS!
@@ianjameson3604 thing to remember with Neil is that the man had a lot of drug problems(like the rest of Crosby, Stills and Nash) and in Neil's case a litany of bad really bad investments. Remember the Pono player?
I think you are right on! The "music business" is a horrible industry, and I don't see things getting better. I am a black man, born & raised in Chicago, and I grew up on Rock and Roll. Music today is sterile, impersonal and vapid. You cannot really have a deep connection to bands today, and to watch these older acts clinging to past glory, although understandable, it is sad. You made a sub out of me with this video!
I can't agree with you more. Ever dissect a Taylor swift album?
No one ever mentions who runs the music industry 😤
_"All bands break up, or at least they should at some point."_ -Rick Beato
This is my first time watching, Michael. Frankly, you're a breath of fresh air! I agree that once a band no longer has any original members, they are a tribute band. Others will argue that whoever holds the rights to the band name can go on as long as they want. That statement goes back to your original comment about playing just to make money. Anyway...thanks! I look forward to being notified of future videos.
Like his Content as well. But Completely disagree with you and the upload as well.
Last band I paid to see was Rush on the Clockwork Angels tour. They were always worth it.
Rush were fantastic on the Snakes and Arrows tour too. They are just a fantastic bunch of musicians
The 1987 tour was memorable too.
Rush kept making new content that actually remained relevant rather than just becoming a nostalgia act like so many of their peers did. Basically, they never stopped being amazing.
@@Cincinnatus1869 that tour was a drag . Thought they should have retired after that
@@jerrywoods4066 they just played a lot of new material and I personally liked the shows for that reason. I didn't need to hear Tom Sawyer again
KISS & Eagles need a mention for the fact they both have already done farewell tours. Once you do that, I say no more touring. The Eagles ticket prices are extreme gauging.
JUST SAW EAGLES FOR 99 BUCKS ARE THEY WERE GREAT VINCE GILL A GOOD REPLACEMENT
@@freddycookjr.2164 wow! 100$!!! Every time they’ve been within a days drive of me, you couldn’t get a ticket under $200
Saw King Crimson during their 50th anniversary tour. Even though Robert Fripp is the only original member (there was many versions),
he always surrounded himself with musicians of the highest virtuosity. This lineup performed music from their extensive catalog. They were stunning. It sounded new & inventive. It was great to see master musicians pushing themselves with complex arrangements & configurations. I left exhausted but it was worth the ride. Great music is supposed to take you to a higher place. It was worth every penny.
KC was always a band in flux. To this day Robert has never loosened the standards on what it takes and means to be King Crimson, and the 2017 tour proved that all over again. It was absolutely King Crimson.
Elton John auditioned to join King Crimson, chuckled thinking of 21st Century Schizoid Man and Yellow Brick Road being mashed.
He couldn't have had that sound, without that orignal band... He doesn't sound NEAR as good, solo. My opinion.
@@irish431962 It been army of musicians at first 3 KC albums + a lyric writer?!?!?!
The Double Trio was definitive. They composed and orchestrated polyrhythmic performances like no one. The latest KC is fine, however Adrian Below can't be touched as the supreme front man in the biz. Outside of Wetton of course, no one can sing and play like Adrian
All these bands would retire pretty quickly if people stopped going to see them.
With Queen + Paul Rodgers, it was stressed that Paul was NEVER intended to be Freddie’s replacement (hence the + Paul Rodgers in the name). And they didn’t strictly perform Queen songs, they also threw in Free and Bad Company numbers as well, and you could see one very important thing: THEY WERE HAVING FUN PLAYING AGAIN!
It gives the line I feel like making Love new meaning, with geriatrics to consider............. 🤣
There's another guy out there who sounds exactly like freddie ? And it's a shame queen didn't go with him
@@Rayk76 George Michael was brilliant on “Somebody to Love” at the Tribute.
The other point is that Rodgers still has a genuinely great voice and sounds wonderful live.
Too bad they replaced him with an American Idol buffoon
I’m with you on 95% of your choices, but the Stones need to be retired also,especially with the death of Charlie, no respect, Greed lives on.
Greed? You don't think it's because they love doing what they do?
@@kevindean1327 That’s part of it.
@Mike Barooshian good points....the stones are a mess
I lost interest in their music made after the 70s, still listen to Exile now and then, but if they love what they're doing and audiences enjoy, more power to them. It's not still the Stones, really. And seeing Jagger as Taylor Swift's special guest when I took my daughter to a show in 2015? Very exciting for the parents there, but his singing was SO bad - he was about 3 notes off key, and it was embarrassing.
No Charlie asked Steve Jordan to play and the tour had been postponed due to of course the never ending covid
10. Foreigner
9. Styx
8. Cars
7. CCR
6. Doobie Bros
5. Fleetwood Mac
4. Black Sabbath
3. Yes
2. Genesis
1. Queen
What about the Rolling Stones and AC/DC? Tangerine Dream? Edgar Froese (+2015, RIP) was the last original member!
I mean TG's last original member!
Very good list. This guy is on my list of those who should retire. This is the most boring video I've seen in a long time.
@@dietmarsteiner1070 cause the Stones have all the original members except those who died ( ok Ronnie joined in 75,but that’s still 47 years ) except Bill Whyman who left in 1990 but Darrayl Jones has been in the band for 30 years now.
So it’s a bit different,until last year when Charlie died they had Mick,Keith and Charlie all original members and Ronnie who’s a stone for nearly 50 years and a bassist who’s been with them for 30 years so they’re not the same as the rest on this list who maybe have just 1 or 2 original members and a load of new guy’s,these guy’s have been going 60 years and Charlie died so they had to replace them .
Also they have made a new album quite recently ( blue and lonesome) so they’re not just touring on ancient songs,also they can still play,go and see them,they may not be as good as their absolute peek but they still sound good,Jagger is still singing well and running and dancing,while Keith,Ronnie,steve Jordon and Darryl Jones are fantastic musicians
No offense, the only albums I enjoy over and over by Yes are: The Yes Album, Fragile, and Close To The Edge.
I saw them in 1984 after that 😩 Owner Of A Lonely Heart album.
Going For The One (song) is a good listen.
To be honest, I was waiting for Queen to come up - not that I agree with it in this instance. However, if I were in the band that wrote and recorded some of their songs, I would want to carry on playing them as long as possible. No one (including Roger, Brian, John and Adam) believes that they are the same band without Fred. But I for one am glad they are doing what they do, if for no other reason than I get to see and hear Brian & Roger play live together. They won't be around playing for that much longer, so I suggest we make the most of it while they are. With regards to Adam, he's certainly no Fred (which he freely admits himself), but he's not too shabby as a vocalist and performer.
I second all of that . I saw them play live in Aus and I really hope they can play here once more . What an amazing show .
have they in any way improved since 1979?
@@TvDaddyAndTheTabloidArmy Does having GREY hair count ?
@@markbaumbusch2473 no. of Course not. hair colour, skin complexion do not matter. being physically fit enough helps to accomplish what mentally one can think of. Therein is the problem: most of these guys have made No creative progression in decades
@@TvDaddyAndTheTabloidArmy They might have been creative but it didn't sell, so they peddle what people pay for and it's mostly the same favourite hits over and over, that's life!?!
I agree partially. I don’t agree that they should stop playing. People should hear their songs being played live, but I agree that it shouldn’t be at high price tag they put, since most original members they would rather see aren’t there.
I was fortunate enough to see Black Sabbath original lineup 3 times during the 2000s at Ozzfest. They sound so good live. I do miss seeing them. Tony Iommi was at least smart enough to change the name of the band Heaven & Hell when he played with Ronnie James Dio. I was unfortunate not able to see them as Dio passed away. One of the greatest vocalists of all time, could arguably be # 1.
I believe "Grand Funk Railroad " is still touring without Mark Farner, you know, the guy who wrote almost all of their songs.
Yeah, and I’d only pay to see Farner!😉
Bruce Kulick was a long time Kiss member, toured with Meatloaf in 78, etc. But no Farner, no Funk.
But, but, but Grand Funk did gain a former 38 Special lead singer, and with him brought 38 Special's late 80s hit he sang lead on: "A Heart Needs A Second Chance". There's that! 😆
Mark wrote most of the early material. Starting with "We're an American Band" and after Don Brewer became a major songwriter for the band and wrote many excellent songs. It was about a 50/50 split in songwriting on most of the later albums.
They should call the band.. "You've been Railroaded" :)
Hi Michael, here is another band you should mention that has no original member left is : "Little River Band". I was formed in Australia back in March 1975 by lead vocalist Glenn Shorrock, guitarist-vocalists Beeb Birtles and Graeme Goble, lead guitarist Ric Formosa, bassist Roger McLachlan, and drummer Derek Pellicci. The current line up is now basically American with no original members whatsever, the band is now Wayne Nelson, Chris Mason, Rick Herring, Ryan Ricks & Colin Whinnerey. Its strange because the original 1975 lineup wanted to re-form about 5 years ago but were not allowed to because Wayne Nelson now owns the LRB name.
A sorry tale. Shorrock was his own worst enemy selling the band rights. Have you seen the concert where the original members reunite? Brilliant session and it’s available on DVD.
Jesus thats a weird one and shows whats wrong with music now where bands essentially become a brand band
Mick Jones is the founding member of Foreigner and the main talent as songwriter and guitar player. He is still playing. Styx has had a few new albums not up to the par of the seventies but still good albums that they play live. Styx is also one of the few bands that sound as good or better live compared to their recordings.
And I say play on! Disagree with the post
A few years ago went to see Crosby Stills and Nash with massive expectation, when they came out for the second half 50% of the arena was empty, that says it all.
Another band...
Call it a day.
a book on them says they didn't like each other at the end but needed the money so went out or recorded.
Saw them in the 70s. Stills was totally drunk but put on a great show. Nash and Crosby were just horrible. They couldn’t sing two notes in a row on key. It was worth it to see Stills tho.
I saw Crosby in a small venue 3 years ago. His voice was still beautiful. Nobody left. It was a surprisingly good show and a miracle to sound like that at 70 or whatever.
Great analysis! I would have included the Eagles on this list. Only original member left is Don Henley, meanwhile Don Felder, Randy Meisner and Bernie Leadon are all out there in Eagles exile while Henley tours with a bunch of replacements charging $300-500 a ticket. I’ll pass
Felder wasn't an "Original" member. Think he was brought on by the 3rd album.
@@bigjohnson7415 never said he was
The Eagles have always been over-rated in my opinion. They think because that they are still around that we'll pay the ridiculous ticket prices they ask for.
They rely on their ego, rather than their talent.
I absolutely agree with pricing for an Eagles concert being absurd! They also should have asked Bernie Leadon to return in my opinion over Vince Gill, but I suppose that helped them maintain enough star power to remain a draw. Only thing I'd say is I really believe the Eagles would have been just fine without Don Felder. I know he would have never likely written Hotel California outside of the Eagles, but the songwriting of Glenn and Henley would have kept them as superstars regardless. Love Randy and wish he was able to tour too, but Glenn is sorely missed. Deacon is great though and I hope he has success as a solo artist! No disrespect to your post either, just feeding the conversation!
Timothy Bruce Schmit and Joe Walsh! 🔥 😎 🔥
Well, when the music industry releases statistics recently that show the top 200 most popular songs currently only account for 5% of all streams and downloads, there's something to be said about the old music. The industry also stated that 70% of physical music media sold is vinyl and the artists go back 25 years and more. Music from the 60s-90s is the hottest selling in the industry. This is partly why these bands are still around... demand.
Journey is nothing but a tribute band now and I have been a lifelong fan, got to see them during the Steve Perry era, and it was great
Creedence is also another tribute band without John Fogerty.
The Golden Age of Rock & Roll - from 1963 to 2000 - produced some amazing music ... but it's over. Just like Classical and Jazz , it had its time and then faded. We now go back and relisten and analyze and interpret but the original magic remains the standard. Rock is the same - Mick Jagger is still Rocking but it's more nostalgia than Rock. Bob Dylan still performs but his best work was done in the first 10 years of his pro career. It's over ... but we just don't want to let go of what once was magic ...
It's because top 40 only wanted short songs and non threatening so you got China Grove...way overplayed and wimpy crap
Absolutely spot on !
Sweden has been cranking out the best rock n roll for years. That's where rock and roll is.
You hit the nail right on the head, it's over!
The golden age of rock n roll ended ca. 1964. It’s been in a state of decline ever since.
Queen should have taken a hint from Zeppelin and called it a day
Absolutely Jose! You’ve said it in a nutshell🥜
But there are people who really enjoy what they do now and aren’t old enough to have seen Freddie and John.
Ticket Sales tell a different Story my dear.
There are millions of People on this Planet who want to See Queen and Adam Lambert live. So this is reason enough to Continue! Of course it‘s Not Queen with Freddie. But Many People like this incarnation !! So if you don‘t want to See them, no Problem. Stay at home! Nobody gives a a notice!!!
While I don’t take to Adam that much, he has now been touring with them for over 10 years. So has the bass player Neil Fairclough. Spike Edney the keys player toured live with Queen in the 80s.
12 years is almost as long as the original line up toured for. Plus they don’t call themselves Queen. They tour as Queen and Adam Lambert.
So having gone on for 10 mins about how it’s fine that Steely Dan can be two people with a load of session players coming in and out, apparently it’s a problem that 2 or (arguably) 3 surviving members of one of the greatest live acts in history are still going out under the original name and making it clear that it’s a collaboration with the singer? Shut up. At 75 ish years old Brian and Roger are in the middle of a tour to millions of people who adore the music. If they can still do it then why shouldn’t they? Good for them.
Also on Zep losing Bonzo ripped the heart out of them. Page and Plant took it very hard and Pagey had some serious drug issues in the 70s and 80s. They probably couldn’t have done it if they wanted to. Ps remember Celebration Day and the O2 gig? That was in 2007
Deep Purple ,Uriah Heep,Def Leppard,Whitesnake,Jethro Tull still sound awesome after all these years...good job mates !
I don't know about Uriah Heep & Jethro Tull but I do know that Deep Purple & Def Leppard still have most of their classic line-up and are still making new material every now and then. Whitesnake are finishing up I think.
I saw Yes, Genesis, Black Sabbath, Rolling Stones, Lynyrd Skynyrd, Fleetwood Mac et al in Birmingham, England during the early 1970s - all with original line ups. Does that give me bragging rights at a party?
@@SophieLovesSunsets Pedant.
@@SophieLovesSunsetsMick Taylor was in the two best albums. Sticky Fingers and Exile on Main Street.
If you’ve ever heard Brian May’s solo album, Back to the Light from the early 90’s, you’ll see that he also has a great voice. That was a key to Queen. Freddy did have the best voice, but the rest of the band sang so well, their studio sound was easily reproducible, live, as their backing vocals weren’t just Freddy’s voice on everything. The whole band could sing and that’s why they could produce their studio sound live.
He also sounded good on the Star Fleet Project mini album with EVH.
YAWWWWWWWWWWWN
I'm the biggest queen fan in the world but I'm sorry pal your talking bollocks they never got anywhere near the studio sound when they were live partly due to the fact they didn't want to but mostly because they didn't cheat and performed totally live unlike most
@@stevegarth6902 This is true, today's concerts are a lot of backing tracks, click tracks, and various queue's computer-generated functions incorporated within the broader production as a whole. Pop music on the radio drives me nuts to even listen to with its auto-tune and all of the sampling just isn't the same, it doesn't possess the rawness of earlier rock bands.
Don't Roger Taylor amazing voice. He formed The Cross and had several solo albums.
I laughed out loud when Michael first makes the statement "...and I'm tired of becoming a 401k for band members and rock artists who didn't have the sense enough to save up for a rainy day..."
Ah, I see he, too, suffers from "Ritchie Blackmore Syndrome."
Yes, a great line. Most rockers hit if big in their 20s, much too young and naive to think about investing and being smart about money. They think they’ll be on the top of the charts forever, and the big money will never stop. In most cases it DOES stop, after a few short years. By then the audience has moved on, they’ve made a few bad albums, band members change, and suddenly they’re broke has-beens in their 30s! Shame they were too busy just a few years ago pissing away those millions on mansions, cars, women, cocaine, etc. No sympathy here. A few hundred bucks a ticket? With inflation and gas at $5 a gallon (as I write this in June, 2022), plus logistics, parking, fighting the crowds, etc.? No thanks. I paid around $90 for the KISS reunion tour in 1996/97. Now THAT was worth it. But that’s enough. Other than a Zeppelin ’reunion’ with Jason Bonham, there’s NO band I’d shell out big bucks for. Ever. I’ve been to plenty of concerts over the years, have lotsa great memories nobody can take away, have many CDs and concert DVDs. I’m good, thanks! (and just as a side note, off the topic- Axl Rose fronting AC/DC? Yuck!)
I saw all these bands back in the day when they were good (and a fraction of the ticket price now) and only now support local bands. Something on UA-cam triggers a renewed interest in bands and I revisit my Apple collection to see if I missed anything. Funny how CCR was on your list and you mentioned the same things I re-discovered as I updated my collection. John Fogerty played MULTIPLE instruments including guitars, piano, keyboard , harmonica AND saxophone (I thought it MUST have been a guest musician but it was John!). The other 3 played ONE instrument. He also wrote and arranged the songs that all became hits yet the other 3 thought THEY were the heart of the band!!! Musicians never seem to realize how good they have it riding a genius’s coat tails.
But also some genii don’t realise how important their minions are to them.As in John Fogerty’s case,he wasn’t the same without the other three and I’m as big a John Fogerty fan you can find.
Think of how many artists are the main man in a group go solo and find they don’t sell records and tickets as they once did then revert to using the name of the group that made them famous,the latest example being Ian Anderson bringing back the Jethro Tull group name.
And the stories they tell themselves.
Preach Brother, preach. You speaketh the truth. People gotta vote w their dollars, stop supporting crap due to nostalgia.
I really like the way you pull no punches and call it as you see it.
Very refreshing
Thanx, B! Sorry for the late response! Busy busy couple of videos! 😉
Concerning Genesis Collins agreed to do one last tour for the band. This wasn’t for their remuneration because their net worth was already off the charts. They did it to give a finale for the fans and that’s why it was limited amount of shows.
I saw Phil Collins recently. He looked about 100. He doesn't appear well at all.😞
Think phil also did it for him and his son nick to do something together and his son is a brill drummwr
Sad to say the Rock era is over it's been gone for quite a while even if they wrote new songs the corporate hacks who own the radio stations would never play their songs.
I'm 57 and I have 40 years of Rock music to listen to and I'm thankful for it. Rock music had a pretty good run and it was amazing to witness✌
@The Terrence Reardon Podcast You've just described the horror show that was the last 20 years😱
F top 40 radio anyway. It’s irrelevant. There are numerous other ways to get new great rock music. It’s not dead - you just have to know where to find it. I’m not giving up & neither should you.
Yeah, radio is garbage. Makes no sense for some shirt on rhe other side of the country to tell my local stations what lineups to play, instead of leaving it to D.J.'s and requests, charts. Although charts are rigged and unfair too.
@@richieboy6825 I'll leave the new stuff for the younger generation it doesn't mean anything to me. I'm happy with the music from the 60's 70's 80's and the Alternative Rock from the 90's 😉
@@richieboy6825 Totally agree. Have you seen the group Haim do their cover of "Oh Well", the Peter Green/Fleetwood Mac tune? Rock and Roll forever!
Dude, I totally agree with you on CCR! John Fogerty was the main genius behind that band.
Edit: Fleetwood Mac too! You hit the nail on the head!
I am shocked you didn't include kiss as one of the top! They only released 2 albums in the last 25 years and neither were good and nothing in the last 10 years. Gene has put his name on anything and everything he can possible make a buck on and the band hasn't been relevant since the 80's.
And yet... 30 gold albums of which 13 went platinum, and people love going to see them.
@@dirkbag22 With all that success, why are they (Paul and Gene) still making a sad spectacle of themselves?
@@basilmarasco1975 Have you ever stood in front of 20,000 cheering fans?
@@dirkbag22 How is that relevant?
@@basilmarasco1975 Then you haven't. Neither have I but I've spoken to a couple of thousand people, made a joke and they laughed. Musicians love it on stage. They have a hard time putting down the instruments and stopping, because standing in front of those people and playing is hard to give up.
I met jon Anderson at the heath and harmony festival in 2005 in Santa Rosa, ca...and watched him perform...it was mesmerizing...amazing what a cool dude 😎
Agreed. I saw Jon Anderson on one of his solo tours, and it was a great show!!
Big Stones fan here. Always have been. After their Steel Wheels tour, Bill Wyman retired. When asked if they will keep going, Keith said "well as long as i have Charlie Watts, we'll keep touring". After Charlie's sad passing i thought that would be it for them. But no. New drummer, new tour and my respect went out the window for them. I guess its all about the money. As if they need it !!
I’ve seen the Stones several times over the years, but I skipped the “We Sure Do Miss Charlie” tour. He was the glue that held that train wreck together live.
I saw the rolling stones in November and loved it and charlie asked Steve to fill in
McCartney, Stones, Dave Matthews, Alanis Morissette, and many more.
Really missed Bill Wyman ! I have seen them 'live' in recent years and there always seems a big gap on stage without Bill !
With you totally on the negative impact of both the "talent" shows ( on both sides of the Atlantic),back in the mid nineties I was working as an engineer at British summer festivals,one band's guitarist/songwriter wanted me to join on f-ing vocals based solely on the way I dressed.I told him I couldn't sing to save anybody's life and all he could do was go on about that no longer being an issue because of autotune.Thinking of all the actual musicians I'd had the privilege to work with,he was lucky I just walked away in disgust.
The Little River Band only has the bassist (that only joined the band in 80/81) from the early line up. Due to a nasty legal battle the original songwriting trio , who were the core of the band from day 1, lost the legal right to retain the LRB name. Now the current lineup are non-original members performing more as a tribute band.
They are a tribute band! Yeah, bassist Wayne Nelson was great on vocals for Night Owls, but the geniuses writing all those great hits, and singing that killer harmony, were Beebe Birtles, Glenn Shorrock,and Graeham Goble. Sucks what happened to them losing rights to the name.
Wimpy little garbage top 40 ...no balls
Molly hachett is another band with no original members left
Heart has no original members, and REO Speedwagon has one original member left. The keyboardist Neal Dougherty is 76.
@@rafaelsale6364 Did anyone know who Heart were before the Wilson sisters joined?
As far a managers add Rush's manager, Ray Daniels, to your list of keepers. He was there throughout their entire 40+ year tenure and kept the band's vision and its members individual needs as his focus.
There you go, Mark!
Rush is one of those rare cases, where the band basically made all the right decisions throughout their career...... not only they kept getting more prog-y and interesting after those first 2 albums, they even did it after disagreement from their label...... they didn't care and kept rockin...... and also the way they retired was fantastic...... great farewell tour with no gimmick..... many other bands announce a "farewell tour" just to crank up ticket sales, but then they don't quit and tour in a few years again cause they run out of money
@@itkojecockot My favorite band of all time.
Except for when Ray Daniels broke up Van Halen. Whether you like Sammy or not, they were selling records, and Ray Daniels destroyed that.
@@itkojecockot If I understood it correctly, once Neil got sick he knew he wouldn't be able to go on, and Alex and Geddy realized that too, so they decided to go out with style and then call it quits. Neil lived on for six more years, but his illness was the kind from which you don't recover, and they knew that. Sad of course, but at least a very classy way of going about ending your career.
My two cents: Over the recent few years, I've noticed the young 30 somethings and some a bit younger catch on fire for 70s and 80s songs from popular rock bands of that (my) era. I think it has renewed a love and fondness for that musical genre. One of my nephews started learning to play "Simple Man" by Lynyrd Skynyrd. I believe that new found fire has, in part, inspired the money hungry (greedy?) and still living old rockers to hit the road and go on tour again to cash in.
Unfortunately, the only thing is that many of them are no longer the trim, good-looking, young and vibrant rockers they were back in the day. Many look atrocious (horrible) and are more of a spectacle than spectacular! I think maybe they should stay home and just record new stuff in the studio? And, to be truthful, I wouldn't pay to see a band where not even one of the original members is present! That's just a glorified COVER BAND with rights to the band's name. smh
Thanks for pointing out some truth, even if it hurts! Nice job, Michael!👍🏼
Thanx, J! Superior music always survives! Classic Rock will be listened to far into the future! All true art survives!👌
The wife and I have seen Skynyrd three times in the past three years. As long as Gary Rossington is playing, I could be convinced to go again. Now....Marshall Tucker Band, it breaks my heart, because we saw them back in the day, but Doug Gray needs to call it quits. With out Toy, Tommy or George....forget it. Doug can't sing anymore...they are just terrible.
38 Special...seen them twice in the last three years. Don Barnes is still an amazing performer and singer. We'd go see them in a heartbeat as long as Don is there.
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The trouble with modern day music is its mostly Rap. Why is it that a new Rap singer comes along with a top 10 hit they wind up going to jail or the mortuary? Rock isn't as popular among the young generation but it's not dead by a long shot!
There is video on YT of an 11 year old kid shredding through "Free Bird" like he was falling off a log. He is just standing there, nonchalantly, ripping through the solos. It's hilarious.
A lot of young people know most of today's music is crap, which is why they're discovering artists from the past.
I don’t think anyone needs to retire. It’s their careers . They should do what every they want. If you don’t like it you don’t have to go.
Laughed my head off when you were talking about these old dudes using playing as their 401k. Never thought of it that way 😂🤣
What’s wrong with still playing if people are still paying?
We've been having "discussions" like this at the local pub. And as the senior citizen of our little group I've been saying this for YEARS!!!!!
And whole heartily agree with your take on Stevie Nicks. That insane warbling and prancing around stage dressed like some storybook fairy is cringe worthy at best.
Hearing these guys try to hit notes they can't reach is sad. It reminds me of seeing Willie Mays in a MET UNIFORM!!!,
Johnny Unitas in a CHARGERS UNIFORM!!,
Or the last few fights from Mr. Muhammad Ali. And why is McCartney at 80 still trying to sing. Love the guy but..... come on Sir Paul. I could go on but......what do you do.
I just refuse to give these guys a penny of my money. Just an old guy's opinion.
The Johnny U in a Chargers uniform, now that's a low blow and a perfect analogy. They continue to perform for the love of performing and music in general, their first true love, they will take it to their grave as that.
Paul certainly doesn't need the money, either. That guy has an estimated worth of just over a billion dollars. He's arguably the richest musician on the planet. Hang it up and call it a career.
Damn im a Chargers fan lol , and even i agree with that , but he was just holding the spot till Fouts took over ..
Oh fair enough, they just cant get off the stage ,I was wondering about the stones. 🤔🤔🤔🤔
at least when # 24 put on that Met uniform he had some good games.. but " say hey" i can dig it
I saw Sabbath with Ozzy, Iomi, and Geezer in 2017. It was good to see 3 of the 4 original guys performing together. The tour was called "The End" and I think it was the last tour under the name Black Sabbath. It was a very enjoyable show.
I totally respect the way Black Sabbath made their farewell. They would have had Bill Ward there if they could have.
I saw all 4 together on the reunion in the late 90s, just about the time Bill was starting to get too ill to handle the rigors of touring. I had seen Ozzy with Randy, Jake and Zak on guitar, but Tony and the old guys were just special. Bill was a truly tremendous drummer.
@@steveshattah they COULD have Bill Ward...... Bill said he was ready for the tour, but they offered him ridiculously less money than rest of the band got..... and who else could've been behind such SHITTY deal if not Sharon Osbourne, right
I was fortunate enough to see Black Sabbath on the last tour before Ozzie left the band and had the blizzard of Ozz with Randy. The sad part was that Van Halen open the show and blew them off the stage. At the end everyone was chanting Halen Halen Halen… I think that was a 1978 when Van Halen hit the scene and we’re untouchable for the next five years or so
@@itkojecockot very possible but also very possible that there's lots to this story we don't know about. I did read that Bill was the only one who thought he was ready. Nobody else seemed to agree with him. I'm real glad they did that tour and album and like everybody else I think it would have been even better if Bill could have been there with them.
Hi Michael,
I just discovered you and this is the second video I watched of yours, I 100% agree with you and your outlook on this video! You are very knowledgeable and I appreciate that in a person and can respect them and their views! Thanks for doing these videos I'm really enjoying them! ♥️
I disagree
There's nothing wrong with enjoying older music. I can sit for hours listening to my old albums. It's just when these bands don't write new material and rely on classic songs that they can't even perform as well as they used to, that I do have an issue. That's one of the reasons the remaining members of Led Zeppelin don't tour anymore. Robert Plant said EXACTLY that, that he never wanted to become a jukebox act.
And Amen to the blessed Led Zeppelin for that, Rob!
True Rock Gods live forever! In our minds and hearts, and the true giants guard their legacy with a fervor! Like Jimmy Page tending to LZ’s catalogue!!!
Always remember John Lennon wanting out at the old age of 29? He was afraid of being a Vegas act in the Beatles like Elvis did.
@@MichaelNoland-TheBottomLine More like Page tweaking the catalog every few years claiming 'new material'.😂 He just keeps raking in $$$ on old material. Has been when it comes to guitar playing. He probably has hands as soft as one of his daughter's now.
I admire what Robert Plant has done since the end of Zeppelin. I was so blessed to see them in 1977. What a great and wonderful night that was. I
I could care less about new material. I still listen to Beethoven’s 9th.
Was a big Who fan during the 70s and when Keith Moon died I figured that was it. Then Kenny Jones stepped up and the Who did their infamous 79/80 tour. I caught them in at the beginning of 1980 and I have to admit it was one the greatest shows I ever saw. Just the 4 of them (plus Rabbit on keyboards) on stage. Sadly no destroyed guitars or drums...
I have a friend who saw the Who around that time, '79 or '80. His verdict: "Best live show I ever saw." And this is someone who rarely missed a concert. It was either in Toronto or Buffalo he saw them.
Yeah saw them in 82 I believe with Jones and thought they were pretty good. Would of loved to see them with Keith Moon for sure. But at least 3 of the originals where there when I saw them and John was quite a bass player!
@@slagit I saw them with Keith in 76 in Boston. A make-up show from when he passed out behind his drum set. They knew they owed us a great show and most definitely delivered.
Saw them again in Paris in 79 with Kenny Jones. A 3 hour show, no opener, and they were fantastic. Actually saw them again that summer in Nuremberg in a festival with Cheap Trick , who also played great.
Shortly after, came Cincinnati and the tragedy.
@@scottodonnell7121 Wow you saw some great WHO shows! Bummed I have not see Cheap Trick yet and I am amazed I haven't yet. Used to buy all their albums in high school. Man that feels so long ago.
Saw them in Sept. ' 79 ' with Kenny Jones.
Could he fill Keith Moon's shoes?
No. He didn't need to, because he was Kenny Jones and didn't try to.
Much agreed...They were great.
They were still The Who.
Now they're Townshend and Daltrey.
I understand where he's coming from. Some groups have been reincarnated far to long. Not enough of the originals in the band, simply a tribute band for big bucks is what you're getting. Sometimes that's OK too if it's the only way to relive some nostalgia in your mind. Dude is absolutely correct on all of it.
I finally got to see Genesis live. I think I would have been happier if that was a dream left unrealized. I love Phil Collins, but his voice is gone and I was very disappointed. I would have been much happier if the band had built a whole show around their studio work *_using_* their studio recordings and presented *_that_* live.
Yep, I see what you mean. It's like all that stuff Phil Collins used to do on previous tours where he used to beat his tambourine on the live versions of "I know what I like" and he larked around on stage while doing it. Excellent stuff 😎👍 But it's all a memory nowadays 😐
Because I couldn't get to see them live this time, I had to rely on UA-cam videos instead, the Phil Collins sitting down throughout stuff. The choice of songs was excellent, even though some of them were obviously shortened. But the feel of the footage I saw made me realise there was something missing somehow... like it's hard to explain. Like yourself, if I'd actually gone there and witnessed it live, I might have felt a tad disappointed.
Phil Collins never should have left the cabbage patch to begin with!
I saw Genesis in 83 and 08, and that was pushing it. I had tix for the last tour in Chicago, and I gave them away. It would have been too depressing to watch.
I saw Genesis many times in the 70s and 80s, after that I couldn't bring myself to see them live again,think that was a good decision.
I've seen Jon Anderson doing his solo performance, I saw him on tour with Rabin and Wakeman a few years ago and I'm seeing his show again in July. Thoroughly happy with it.
Saw Anderson Rabin and Wakemam, they were spot on perfect YES concert
At least Jon Anderson's version currently is named Yes featuring Jon Anderson to distinguish the name from the original version.
I saw Jon Anderson solo. I’m a huge Yes fan, I’ve seen them in all their different members. Jon has still got a great voice and shared stories thru out the years. And I didn’t have tipsy a fortune, I was in the first row for $49.00!!!!!
You nailed it Mike. Styx, Foreigner, Journey, Kansas...are the kings of what I call: “Diet Rock.”
Or ‘Diet New Coke Rock’ No sugar, and no originality to the taste!😉
Thanx, luv!👌
Well put my friend.
Love it. Grace Slick had it right. Most groups are as you say tribute bands. Also, I have made it a rule (with a few exceptions) not to go to concerts where the original lead singer is 65 years or older. They now croak vs sing. You are essentially paying big bucks for backup singers/musicians.
You're also paying to hear songs you've known by heart for decades.
Roger Daltrey still sings very well and he's in his 70's
AWB's Hamish Stuart still has a great voice and rocks as well as ever!!
Then you obviously haven't seen or heard Dennis DeYoung, we saw him live (at 72)! He was still amazing vocally, and concert almost 3 hrs! Also check out Michael Sweet (STRYPER).
Benatar still hits those notes. And she’s about 68
Steve Howe is not an original member of YES. He is their second guitarist after Peter Banks. I have never seen them live and have not attended a concert since 2009!
You’re absolutely right, LJ! It’s just that wasn’t quite the fan of that incarnation of the band as I was of Anderson, Wakeman, Squire, Howe, & Bruford! They were the consummate line-up for me personally! But I know their are fans out there who love the line up you mention! So Kudos, brother!👌❤️
100% in with this one. As I sometimes chime in on the progressive rock forums, I saw them in their prime, that's all I need. I have my memories and don't want to _ruin_ those. Yes _is_ a tribute band now, almost spiraling into self-parody. I saw them over half a dozen times in the early-late 70's (not Buggles though), and even really enjoyed their Rabin period stuff. The last time I saw them was the Open Your Eyes tour. Losing Jon was enough for me, but the band died with Chris. And Genesis? I'm going to spend $250 to see Phil sit in a chair? Nope, I saw them when it counted, and Phil did an awesome job filling in some big shoes - maybe even doing a better job. An incredible drummer as well. But really?
"Yes '' without Chris is a contradiction in terms.
....shades of 'Creedence Clearwater Revisited'. Who ya crappin'?
I'd take Buggles Yes over the Rabin stuff anytime.
@@carlsaganlives6086 who you talking to? RE: Mike's rant - could not agree MORE with YES nomination and very well spoken. I've seen Jon Anderson a few times solo (or, rather his tribute band 😉) and it is a great evening! I don't know what Steve Howe's issues are, but he's ruined YES.
Michael, I love your no-bullshit candor. Fleetwood Mac never worked creatively without Buckingham. I love Genesis and Phil Collins and it hurts me to see Phil in his current condition. I caught them on their latest tour for nostalgia reasons and while they tried to compensate for Phil’s limitations with an overall decent presentation, I wish they’d kept the amazing 2007 tour as the valedictory finale.
Cool Spidey tee btw! 🕷
Thanx Bruce! Like I said, I’d probably cough up the funds to see them too! They were the least guilty band on the whole list!👌
@@MichaelNoland-TheBottomLine Thankfully, I got to see them for free on this latest tour. Don’t think I would have paid this time around otherwise. Still a decent show, but of course not the same as when Phil was full-strength and able to drum.
OP, is Peter Green a joke to you.
@@geetee2694 Not at all. I was referring to the Mach III version.
@@BruceColon-BSides ohh, my dear goodness, you said m.lll. :D
In a twist of irony, m.ll produced my favorite Fleetwood Mac song.
My wife wanted to go see Genesis ( who I love ) we would have had to fly to the city, costing us hundreds for the trip, not to mention the price to see the show. All that time and expense to watch Collins, not move a muscle, hunched over in a chair for the duration. This is not the way these music legends should be remembered.
Or at least not in such a large setting! But they are trying to just get through the tour, and then retire!
It’s almost like they’ve said, we can only do so many shows, so lets set them up, and knock them down! So sad, David!
That's why I didn't want to see the Last Domino tour. Phil Collins in his day was an amazing frontman and drummer,but that last Genesis tour was heartbreaking to watch and listen to on You Tube. 😢
I agree with the list with the exception of Styx. I saw them earlier this year and they were truly fantastic. Two original members performed at the show and despite not being an original member Tommy Shaw sang so many hits I would consider him just as important as any of the founding members. The new songs they performed were also truly exceptional. I enjoyed the video though. It was really entertaining and you made a lot of great points!
I agree about Styx, Tommy and JY are in fine form still and as good or better than they were back in the 70's and 80's.
I saw them, not the same thing. I left after Crystal Ball. Wanted to hear that song.
@@FOXLIES …certainly no Dennis DeYoung penned songs…but Tommy Shaw songs, YES!
BTW, Dennis can’t even play his own songs like the record. He’s lost his feel and touch from decades ago.
The Styx concerts I've been to are some of the best I've been to.
@@roblmri ah no
Well said. Like paying top dollar at a Ferrari dealership, but the salesperson sells you a Fiero with a body kit, and tells ya “Just close your eyes and pretend.” Sadly, I think you missed my all time favorite rock band, “The Who”. For many years I’ve been called (by myself) The Biggest Who Fan On The Planet. I’m 53 so I narrowly missed The Moon Era, but I did see every show in the NYC area starting with Shea Stadium in ‘82, right up till ‘02 10th row at MSG, right after John died. At least I finally got to see Pete DESTROY a fully loaded Strat’ (‘00 at Jones Beach). They were really getting rolling again with Zach Starkey, but as soon as OX ‘left’ that was it for me. I knew it was ‘over’. John’s playing, till the day he kicked, was SO LOUD that, even at their ‘advanced’ age, the rest of the band HAD to play LOUD just to be heard.., just like the good old days. You wanna be noticed- play louder- play better. Plus- Johns mammoth talent, playing all the leads as well as holding the bottom, can not be replicated by anyone on stage. Without John to compete with, the band was finally able to turn it down and in doing so they became a very respectable ‘oldies’ band. The unpredictable, dangerous, glorious ‘noise’ coming from the stage, formerly created by four (sometimes 5) men has now been replaced by a flotilla of very well rehearsed musicians, pleasantly filling in all the aural voids that never existed when it was just, as Roger used to say “Four to the floor and a roar”. The present day audience doesn’t need to worry about getting hit with windmilling microphones, drumsticks, guitar splinters or deafening levels of VOLUME. The songs are great, and at Rogers’ request, the air is free of nasty pot smoke, and playfully yelling ‘Get on with it!!’ at Pete is no longer tolerated. I’ll always LOVE The Who- on a bad night they were great.., on a good night they were The Greatest Live Rock Act on The Planet. Nowadays they’re entertaining, very good. But so are cheeseburgers. Long Live The Who- Long Live Rock!
He was truly one of the greats, Michael!
BTW: love your analogy! Fiery! LOL! I 😂🤣😂
@@MichaelNoland-TheBottomLine Thx man.., can’t believe anyone would actually read all that, lol. You were brutally honest, saying what needed to be said about some truly great bands I figured I may as well come clean.., even though it kinda hurt🙃.
Love the who agree totally looks like their not going to just fade away.
Glad I seen every single band you mentioned. Back when they were raw and real. Tickets were a whopping 8 to 12.00. Shirts were 10.00,Tour Book 8.00..For about 15.00 we would get 3 or 4 bands.. Ah,....memories..
I remember seeing REO Speedwagon, Blue Oyster Cult, and some others I can't remember at a festival for $15. In contrast, my boss at work paid $3000 for two VIP tickets to U2 a few years back.
@@chrisjames3087 insane Huh... Kiss.. 1979..10.00 Ticket 10.00 shirt
Motley Crue, The Doors (aka "Riders of the Storm"), KISS, Grand Funk, soon Pantara...
Could it be some of these musicians simply enjoy getting out and doing it? Maybe it isn't always about the money, it could also be about living.
Well said.
I am inclined to agree ! I believe there are a good number of bands and solo artists who I think just do it for the art and self enjoyment and have made big money out of the industry ! Getting paid for it is great ! I don't think its the main reason !
If that’s the case, then don’t charge exorbitant ticket prices.
Yes, and more. I completely disagree with the post
Absolutely spot on sir! You are openly saying what many of us have thought for years.
Thanx, Ted!
Of all the people from the 60s and 70s still performing, I think the best is Ann Wilson. She's my age, and while I didn't know her, we went to the same high school. Her new album with the band she's put together the last few years is great. Still does some old Heart hits but also new songs. She covers songs that mean something to her and makes them her own. I can't think of anyone who covers songs better. I'd definitely pay to see her again and probably will at the final show of the current tour when it gets to Seattle.
This is my first time seeing your channel, now I'll have to look up more of your vids!
Ann and Nancy are good examples of "seasoned" performers who continue to be great entertainers. I enjoy their cover of "Stairway To Heaven" with Jason Bonham.
She s good but way overrated top 40
@@jimf4492 Would Ann cover Total Eclipse Of The Heart? That'd be cool
Yes, she played a small SRO venue here recently and was great.
Also saw King Crimson's 50th show Fripp is Crimson. Covered the history of the band Three amazing drummers in front would pay 300 a ticket 🎫 to see that show again. I have seen in the 70's,80's 90' and again the last show in 2019 Crimson and Fripp never disappoint the exemption
I agree with you. When Layne Staley died in 2004, Alice 'N Chains took an break but they found a new lead singer. They continued on. I wished they had changed their name.
you're absolutely correct, when Duvall tries to sing the older songs of Layne's it just sounds terrible. There was a great tribute band with an incredible lead singer, that everyone thought should have stepped in but now they have Duvall. Check out this kid singing Love Hate Love, just absolutely spot on.
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Layne's voice was unique, especially with a pumping bass line to augment it,,, from memory I think lane passed in 2002
This is sometimes difficult. In 2013 I had ONE chance in my life to see Johnny Winter live. He was in really bad shape, barely alive, could only stand up during the first song, and his playing was clearly nowhere near what it once was. But me and my friends had the feeling we were seing a legend live, probably for the last time (which turned out to be the case).
In all honesty it was a sub par concert by any standard, but it still is a memory I am glad to have.
I was lucky enough to see "Johnny Winter And" at my university. As a guitar player myself I was blown away. After that I saw him on that big blues tour with Muddy Waters. The last time I saw him was at a local theater as a solo act. He was three sheets to the wind, drinking from a huge wine skin, barely getting through most of the set and with only one song that showed his faded brilliance. The theater was quite large and there were only a few hundred people in attendance, most of whom had no appreciation of the blues whatsoever.
I was in a local bar/club band and the bass player's brother did some of the photographs for one of Winter's albums and was a guest at one of Winter's birthday parties. Winter lived in our region. We also could have gone but as we had a gig that weekend and had to play. Rick Derringer was there and the guys did some jamming. Boy were we jealous but we enjoyed Roddy's stories of the event nonetheless.
-dave
@@dgwachtel I saw a Johnny Winter documentary recently and I am very surprised he lived as long as he did. His drugging and drinking were legendary. Apparently the last few years of his life he lived clean and sober. I also didn`t know that he was virtually blind for the majority of his life which explains why he would sit for most of his performances like Phil Collins..
@@jamesklassen5285 Another fun Johnny Winter anecdote. I was working for a small computer start up company and my boss used to hang out at a local club that booked semi famous bands that hadn't quite made "superstar" status. He saw Johnny in attendance in the crowd on several occasions, three sheets to the wind and rocking out to the music.
Johnny wasn't entirely blind but I guess he was close, particularly in his later years. During that "Johnny Winter And" concert he was roaming around the stage like a caged tiger while playing his heart out. His eyesight seemed to be OK then, he didn't trip or fall off the stage. He and brother Edgar were albinos and bad eyesight is one of the medical problems they are prone to.
There were two drummers IIRC. Edgar switched instruments, playing drums and that guitar like organ thingie as well as regular organ.
When they performed "Rock and Roll Hoochie Koo" it was amazing with Johnny and Rick Derringer trading leads! Years later we covered it our band, it got everyone up and dancing and was big fun to play :).
I don't know if anyone will ever surpass Johnny's skill and innovative bottleneck wizardry. RIP Johnny!
-Dave
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@@jhowardduff692 Just visited your site. Loved your bio. It kind of tracks my own musical trajectory, at least until I stopped playing out in 1972. I watched your video for "Ain't No Grave", nice! Our playing styles are quite similar. Tight band and that girl sure can sing, great set of pipes.
During one of my band shakeups we had two girls - turned out to be a disaster. We pivoted to playing a lot of country rock as the lineup could no longer pull off CSN&Y and Chicago. A couple of years after that, and many dramas later, I got fed up and quit playing out.
I may have mentioned it before but just after I quit I got a surprise call from a former near great drummer in my band who was playing for the "Jam Factory" and was invited to join the band. The only drummer that I was personally acquainted with that was better than him was Dicky Charles (RIP) from "Mother Flag and Country". I declined. It might have been a mistake as these guys opened for the Allmans on at least one of their tours, and the way I was to be integrated into the band was attractive. For the Chicago stuff I had tried my best to reproduce the horn parts on guitar. Since "Jam Factor" was a horn band I think that was why I got the invite.
I made sporadic and somewhat halfhearted attempts to get another band together but only found one musician, a base player with a great bluesy voice that was on the same page as I was. He was living down south and was visiting a mutual friend who played (sort of) keys here in upstate NY. We had about a three hour jam session and loved every minute of it. He had planned to return and we were going to form a new band but he never did come back to these parts.
A long lost cousin, Dick Sagendorf, who I actually met at an audition, and I get together to jam once in awhile. He actually played in my band long after it had traveled well down the road to obscurity and embarrassment. He just recently retired from playing out due to health issues as well as the fact that jobs that pay anything are basically nonexistent up here. His day job was amp tech at Parkway Music.
A couple of guys you may have crossed paths with maybe: John Tucci ("Elger Band"), Mick Richards (The aforementioned drummer), Bruce Baker, Blues/Jazz keys (Believe it or not these were their real names!), Bob Hebler keys/vocals. good players, hard workers and easy to get along with. Bruce had intended to attend Berkley but we lost touch so I don't know if he did or not.
I've got a couple of DAW tests that I did a few years ago on my site, a version of "Crossroads" (two guitar tracks and one bass track) and the other just some riffing to a slow blues backing track. They're a bit sloppy due to lots of rust and not being able to hear the monitor very well - currently trying out other DAWs and guitar effects. I had to sell my good equipment other than my 365 NS Rickenbacker which is in semi retirement due to needing a fret job.
Anyhow - a pleasure to make your acquaintance and will definitely subscribe.
-dave
Rock n Roll and Classic Rock will never die. Good music is timeless, I also love the music of Mozart which I listen to all the time,and I believe he existed about 225 years ago and his music is just as fresh today in 2022.
Unfortunately, like Mozart, it is dead. We have to go way back to get the good stuff.
@@viacrucis2509 I agree.
@@05645ci I'm not sure I understood your comment.
I saw Yes live in 2014, a few months before Chris Squire passed away. They played all of The Yes Album, Fragile, and Close to the Edge plus two songs from their latest album at the time, Heaven and Earth. The audience, mostly over 60, loved the classics. But they only politely clapped for the new songs. I'm not sure if it was because they didn't know or care about the new songs or if the new album was really just a tepid offering and the fans acknowledged that. But you are right when you say the fans are also guilty. We always seem to hold up anything new to the band's classic output from 40, 50 years ago.
I saw them in concert at Oxford Town Hall and the Yes album was out, they were fabulous
I do.not care...i Will pay to asist.on any venue where Steve howe Is involved
Mr Noland,don't sugar coat it,tell us how you really feel! :-)
Well you know me, Kevin! I just open my mouth and insert my foot!😉👌
I love it ban stevy
One thing about being old. We saw all these bands in the 70s when they were incredible.
I wouldn't trade it for anything
$7 tickets and $5 tee-shirt, a $2.50 six pack and a nickle bag= a fantastic Saturday night
@@johnward9146
yeah bro!
$10 four- finger bag of Mexican on a Friday. By the time you cleaned the stems and seeds it was a two-finger bag gone by Sunday night!!
Same with the built 1970 Chargers, 69 Chevelle's, AMC 390's- rode in them, drove them, when they were new
my favorite band is Iron Maiden and they've had a fairly consistant line through out their career. they changed one guitarist out on their second album, then got bruce on their third and finnally changed drummers on their fourth album in 83. their 83 line up was constant till 90 when they changed a guitarist again , then bruce left in 93 their 90's they hung in there doing new but still doing new stuff , but then in 2000 , they got bruce back and that other guitarist came back as well , but this time they didn't ditch his replacement and just rolled on with three guitarist. it's been that same line up since then ... 23 years which is basically their 83 line up plus one guitarist. so out of a 40+ year career their line up has been almost the same as it is today for 30 of those years. and man do they still put on a good show and deliver musically. and i've seen them countless times from 96 to 2019(the last time i saw them live)
And they've had the same manager, Rod Smallwood, from the start, and he's done a good job and has always been on the fans' side.
@@medicallyunexplainedsymptoms yep i forgot to mention that, good ol' rod smallwood.
They do put on one hell of a show. Finally caught them a few years ago
@@joshfeatherstone8546 yep ,also note first time i saw them live was when they were with blaze . i love bruce he certainly has a stage presence , but there's been nothing (experience wise) like seeing iron maiden at a club that only housed 2,500 people. only time I ever got to shake some of the band's hands at the end of the show. seriously the guard rail only had a foot and half space between the stage and the crowd. No seats. after the show Steve and gang were leaning down across the rail and shaking as many fans hands as they could. i also saw them a few times at a slightly bigger place (sunken gardens san antonio) with bruce and adrian back, the crowd there was about 6,000. bigger stage didn't have the tight rail spacing for the band to shake fans hands. but still no seats. compared to the dozen times i've seen them at the woodlands (a seated ampitheatre) those shows at sunken gardens and that first one at the millenium club in houston were always the most memorable to me.
I saw Genesis, as much as it hurt not seeing Phil being able to move like when I saw them during the Invisible Touch Tour, he managed to sound spectacular how I have no idea sitting down, but he sorted it out, but his SON, Nick that kid is a star, and you could listen to him, he plays like his father and you just knew Phil put him through the paces and had him prepared, he didn't miss anything IMO.. Phil had to be proud of him.
Yup totally agree, especially with Stevie Nicks. Lindsey was always the one great, under-rated guitarist/songwriter I gravitated to, so what if he caused all the problems.
You know he didn’t even cause all of the problems! Stevie-Sleep-around had her share of the blame! He just wore his rage badly! But he seems to have learned along the way! Thanx, Richard!👌
loved Peter Greene and Danny Kerwan.
That's my attitude. My work life was in a very different creative field, but everyone I ever knew kept on the obnoxious person who did the best work while others begged to have them fired. From the replies here, though, a lot of people would fire the best band member to make life more pleasant. And maybe at this age, that's the smart thing, life being short and all.
I guess you have to credit Grace Slick for quitting, though, she thought older folks playing the rock game were ludicrous, and said so.
She retired to paint.
Much like Steely Dan, Santana ceased to be a band after the third album and became Carlos Santana and a revolving door of sidemen.
Unfortunately your right, but at least with Santana we got an evolving guitar player, one of Rock’s very best btw, and a changing and valid art release with each album!
Imho, they put out some GREAT albums after III:
Caravanserai, Borboleta, Moonflower, Amigos...
all with different flavors and influences. But no arguement that the 1st 3 records were their most mindblowing.
For my money the 1st Journey album mined that same territory to great success. I think that record was the truer successor to III than was Caravanserai. Their second and third weren't the same but still rocked HARD. After that, pffft...
@@MichaelNoland-TheBottomLine i disagree. Carlos santana if anything has been doing the same solo for 50 years...he did not evolve...
Im sure that every band member mentioned here from the 70s or 80s, would have been amazed if told that they would still be playing the same material 40 or 50 years later. The "hope I die before I get old" philosophy, is so easy for young people to believe in, because no one of the age they were then, could imagine getting old. However, getting old is a reality for these musicians now, and their priorities have completely changed.
If you've toured all your life in a big named band, and are capable of playing live, why should you give up now? You've done what you do for almost your entire life, and love what you do. Many probably crave the continued exaltation from fans and fear they can't live without it. For many of these musos, retirement would be like losing an arm. That's why they go on stage, when its clear they've been beyond their best for decades, with croaky voices and arthritis that compromises the accuracy of those old guitar runs. Keeping going for as long as possible is what all old people have to do though, until the batteries go completely flat, and that's in all fields of endeavour, and its more important for their well being than that myth they might have carried in their head when they were 25, that I'll be too old for all this at 40, so I'll retire to maintain my self respect, and my super star reputation.
They do it for as long as possible, because there's no other way of facing up to old age...........
Huh? Mick Jones is in Foreigner. And there will never be a Foreigner once he is done. But Led Zeppelin did it right - member dies, done! Unlike The Who. They should have been done in 1979 just like Led Zeppelin in 1980.
Mick has been missing shows recently.
In your argument AC/DC should have retired when Bon Scott died!!! SMFH.
@@cvilletech8628 until he officially leaves he's still there.
You got to remember This is a musicians job they need to make a living . Iconic. old Tymers musicians get it together Form The Sensational Senior Citizen Dam Jam Band 😎🇺🇸🍺
The New Cars actually included 2 original members...Elliot Easton & Greg Hawkes...but without Ric & Ben I wasn't in the least bit interested!
I really liked the New Cars with Todd Rundgren. Todd showed the utmost respect for those classics and even heavied them up a bit. If anyone could fit in with that band, it's Todd.
Being 60, this is a perfect example of why punk rock was formed
I'm in my 50's and will never old enough to listen to Styx.
And old punk bands reform too . Sad but the idealistic hippies and punks turned into what they used to hate .Greedy bussiness men cynically explioting their name to get their fans to part with their cash .
There's nothing more quaint than 60+ year old punks still having mohicans and studs! I'm 62 (16 in 1976); me and my friends ignored punk and continued to buy prog. As working class kids we just thought punk was not relevant to us.
There's no substitute for all original band members but the decades have taken their toll! Without Christine, Fleetwood Mac isn't Fleetwood Mac! I could care less about Stevie.
You're brutal but you make good points.
It’s time for the howling and screaming to come to an end in todays metal scene and return to something people can understand and appreciate. These old farts, and I’ve seen them all in their prime, need to retire and support young talent and renew Rock and Roll. They have a vital role to play and that’s to become the teachers and mentors for the next generation.
Beatles did it right - at their peak and still in their 20’s quit and never returned
As opposed to the Stones - touring in their 80’s
Amen to this, mike! Both the Beatles and Led Zeppelin, instinctively knew to let sleeping dogs lie!👌
The Beatles did it wrong. Lost most of their money in a bad business venture, then lost almost the rest of it to lawyers. Oh yeah they also filmed themselves breaking up.
@@steveshattah They still did just fine out on their own. The documentary was great. They hung it up at their finest moment.
Peter Banks(RIP), Tony Kaye and Bill Bruford had all left yes for varying reasons by 1972 leaving only Jon Anderson and Chris Squire (RIP) as originals before the band became really big.
Hay I saw the Beatles, Rolling Stones, Herman’s Hermits, you get the era, I’m with you.
I agree Linsey Buckingham is a musical genius!!!!👍👍