Exactly this. It's usually just a bunch of tiresome people who want to snipe at bands they don't like. Poor dears, having to endure music they dislike, must lead hard lives.
For me to really dislike a band it not only has to have bad music, but it has to be popular enough that I keep hearing its bad music, thereby causing me to really hate them. I have seen bands at bars whom I did not like, but I only heard them once, and I do not even remember their names. I can’t really hate them or say they are overrated.
The two are all too often used interchangeably.... and incorrectly... as are their opposites. I've long said that underrated is the most over used and misused word in music. How many times have we heard - ">insert-name-here< is the greatest guitarist / drummer / singer / whatever... EVER!!" when in fact, they're competent but pretty much just average but they play stuff that person happens to find pleasing? In nearly all cases, if you played 5 random musicians for them playing unfamiliar music, they couldn't pick out the one who they claim is the greatest.
If The Beatles had stuck to their early 3 minute pop songs then they would have been overrated. BUT, when you consider how they developed (Abbey Road, Revolver, St Peppers) in such a short space of time to describe them as overrated is ridiculous.
By Hard Day's Night they were already showing signs of real growth. They had a very short early period. In fact their entire run of original material is at best 8 years.
@@canalesworks1247 See, one of my personal central musical criticism tropes is that if The Beatles died in a plane crash after A Hard Day’s Night, they’d still be the band that completely revolutionized pop/rock music. “She Loves You” is the rarely-acknowledged most impactful single of all time.
@@scottanthonyweidner8692You're completely on the mark, not least because A Hard Day's Night was completely self-composed, which was unprecedented at the time. That album is the reason that artists who don't write their own material are now maligned, when in fact it was the norm before that. Even brilliant originals like Buddy Holly and Roy Orbison padded their albums out with covers.
After reading a couple hundred very entertaining comments, I wonder if the label "overrated" is being confused with "overplayed" or "oversaturated?" At 68, I'm old enough to pretty much remember it all when it was shiny and new, but there are certain bands that are on perpetual rotation on classic rock stations. For example, I am sick to death of Stairway To Heaven, but I also struggle to think of a better crafted rock song (as opposed to rock n' roll). There is a reason why Led Zeppelin, Pink Floyd and the Beatles are oversaturated, at least for those of us who heard these songs at least 100,000 times. But overrated? Not at all. For me, it is about genres. The Velvet Underground is overrated to me because they seemed to be more a New York City thing than a national band, and the Cool Kids listened to something edgy and different than the usual stuff on the radio. I never was into punk or grunge, either. My tastes tend to run towards musicianship, which is why I love prog and mainstream hard rock. But everyone has different tastes.
Interesting take. I am also 68 years old and think between us we may epitomise the dichotomy. I enjoy musicianship as much as anyone but if it doesn't have a genuine edge of rebellion against the MOR and the insane society we all inhabit, it's just not rock and roll.
Since I've Been Loving You, live version. Nothing displays Jimmy Page's superb musicianship more than this track in my opinion (and there's a lot of competition). He's not playing his guitar, his soul is howling into the night.
Completely agree with defence of Rush, but just when were Rush actually appreciated to the level to be over rated? If anything they are under rated. I just think people are so used to living in the internet these days we get a skewed idea on what general opinions are. Most people I know wouldnt even know who Rush were!
Totally agree w/your comment about people who live inside the internet having skewed views about what's actually popular in the real world. I'm not saying Rush isn't popular, but on the grand scheme of things, they're nowhere near Zeppelin, Floyd, or The Beatles in popularity.
That's how I feel about Revolution #9. If I were teaching a Musique Concrete class and a student showed up with something that slick and well constructed I'd give him an A and get him scholarship to write more Musique Concrete. Lennon gets an A for that one in my book.
Music is subjective and we all like different things. I love ELP and Yes but, can appreciate why people dislike them. I dislike The Clash, Pulp and Madness but, they must have all had something as so many people loved those bands. Let’s just appreciate all forms of music/genres and the joy it gives us all. Music is the ultimate pleasure in life.
Yeah, what he said. My criteria is if the music makes me dance in my head, feet or heart, then I like it. To quote JayZ, "if you don't like my music you can hit fast forward."
Yes but saying The Beatles even Zepp are overrated is simply being ignorant. Clearly they do not really listen!!! oh well, such opinions do not count anyway..
Oh man, Madness is one of the most UNDER-rated bands of all time, especially in the states where most only know them by one or two songs. Madness had 17 top 10 and 31 top 40 hits on the UK charts. Most only know them by their "nutty ska" sound but they had a SLEW of perfect pop songs after that first album. They had a lot of different styles, so of course some you may not like. Listen to Sun and the Rain, One Better Day, Grey Day, Tomorrows Just Another Day, Never Knew Your Name, Rain, Ironshirt, Forever Young, Africa, You'll Lose a Good Thing (remake) for those interested in discovering this band.
Neil Tennant recently recalled sitting with Bowie at the Brits where they were performing Hello Spaceboy. They watched Oasis rehearsing. At the end, Bowie leaned over and said one word to Tennant. “Parochial” and walked out. 😂😂
Even if the Beatles are not your favorite band, which may be very probable, I can't take anyone seriously if they say the Beatles are overrated. I just can't.
We had breakfast bowls in my house (in 1966/7) with four Beatles faces. You may present that to the overrated camp, as an example of everyone else being wrong.
The Beatles music has no swing, it is soulless. Has anyone ever danced to a Beatles song bar 1 or 2 songs? It all sounds incredibly dated too. Compare the catchy and admittedly danceable Lady Madonna from 1968 to the quite similar I'm Waiting For The Man from 1967 which has a layered groove. Personally I'm not one for ranking music, people should just listen to what they like, and in the proportion that maximises their own enjoyment. In that regard more or less every band, album and song is over rated because terms like "essential listening", are bandied around. They are just another band that can be happily absent from a record collection of hundreds of albums and the owner wouldn't miss them one bit. In my opinion there are only two things related to the type of music this channel discusses where one should not use the over rated label, the albums Dark Side Of The Moon and Rumours. These have been purchased in large numbers in multiple countries continuously since their release over 50 years and almost 50 years ago respectively. In contrast Sgt Pepper relies on 10 multiple anniversary years and that publicity to get sales. The much more recent Thriller, widely documented as the biggest seller has dropped off considerably in the last decade and thus maybe much more of its time; it is outside the scope of this topic but a good reference point. When it comes to streaming the only classic rock artist that makes an impression is Queen, so there is an argument to be made they get a pass too as they are clearly reaching across multiple generations.
Some of us only know what we like. We don't need to understand why we don't like The Beatles and history isn't going to make us spin their vinyls. Bland is bland, insipid is insipid is Beatles to many.
@@QuoPaperPlane You do not have to like classical music to understand the influence and ramifications that continue to reverberate in modern music today. History is supposed to teach us, which should be objective. If you believe the Beatles are insipid, that is subjective. Understand that and become a bit more understanding of the original question.
I think it's fine to say "I don't like The Beatles" , we all have our own tastes obviously. If, however, you just say "The Beatles were rubbish" then I think music isn't for you, try stamp collecting.
@@jasonjames6383 The Beach Boys are overrated to people who have never listened to them. If you know the beach boys as the Pendleton wearing surf rock band, yeah they suck, if you know them as the genre defying, boundary shattering, mind altering band of the mid 60s and mid 70s no. Brian Wilson is among the greatest composers of all time, anyone who isn’t musically illiterate will tell you that and with confidence.
@@robtyman4281 No one agrees. They already made great stuff before Stairway to heaven even came out. The three albums prior to it are all classics. And after the 4th album, there was still more than many other famous bands can boast.
Lists like this... Reasons to highly rate a band. 1. You are a musician and appreciate the skill of the musicians and song writing. 2. The music is a touchstone in your life, and those touchstones are myriad. 3. It was the music of your people, your youth, your crew, your family, your whatever. Reasons bands get overblown 1. Radio 2. Media 3. Sales driven push $$ To see past the curtain of Oz, one must recognize them in context of time. For the Iconic bands on the list you must have perspective. If an individual would take the time to listen to the music of the other bands of the era and what music they were producing and also what came before them, then and only then can you see/hear why some of these bands are so highly regarded at the time. Over time they become legend for breaking ground. I would never expect my teenage grand-kids to listen to the Beatles at my house and it become a life changing experience for him or her. They have no context or point of reference. I fell in love with 1950s Doo-Wop at 13 years old after seeing American Graffiti in 1973. As soon as that music was put in context the lights came on and I wanted more doo-wop, a Ducks Ass haircut and a hotrod. Carry on Cuz!!
@@morrisanderson3180 Perhaps as a musiciann I couldn't judge myself as I am no musician at all . But the Who were a far more exiting live band than Deep Purple ever were. And as with rebelliousness, No excitement = no rock and roll. Better or worse? depends what you are judging on. I enjoy both btw.
So how many bands do you think formed after The Beatles first Ed Sullivan appearance? You might not understand their importance unless you were there. The music world basically revolved around them and what they were doing from 1964 to 1970. I was lucky enough to see that show and get on the ride. Not everything was great but a lot of what they did were "firsts". What we have now does not exist without them. And may I add they were no slouches when it came to their instruments.
Surprised not to see The Rolling Stones mentioned. 50 years passed their sell by date. At least the Beatles know when to stop. I'd proffer the theory that almost no band has a shelf life of more than 10 years quality output.
I'd say most great bands have a 5-6 album run followed by a decline, either rapid or gradual. For the Stones, I'd say it was the Mick Taylor era, and not all of those were masterpieces.
What about bands whose peak quality didn’t start until well into their careers? For example, the Flaming Lips have one of my favorite three album runs, and the first of those albums was released 13 years after their debut.
It's about being overrated though. I suspect the Stones are underrated really. Written off as old granddads for decades, but still more Rock'n'Roll than anything from the last 25 years at least. I'd suggest Queen for the overrated list.
When someone tells me they don’t like the Beatles or think they’re over rated, I immediately know that the reason is simply because they’ve never bothered to listen to them.
I am a big fan of the Beatles. The Beatles were truly great and influential, but they are also overrated. For me, The Lads hit their zenith with Revolver. The later albums were not nearly as important and good. In an interview, John Lennon said that the last four Beatles albums weren’t necessary at all, and all four members had better solo albums, compared to the last four Beatles albums. Lennon particularly disliked The White Album. He also said the Abby Road medley was lazy and rubbish. Great band, but overrated.
I don't hate them and appreciate their contributions but I just do not like their music. I like While My Guitar Gently Weeps. But could just be the Clapton solo.
@@SeptemberChild1835, interesting coming from Lennon, who released some Godawful albums. One could make a single album of top songs from all four of their members' first albums, and it wouldn't touch anything the Beatles made collectively after Revolver. Given that John and Paul were the songwriters of 80% or more of the albums, which ones from McCartney and Plastic Ono Band (I won't bother mentioning Two Virgins) would fill an album? George would have two great songs from All Things Must Pass, Ringo has nothing from Beaucoups of Blues, Paul has very little solid material from his debut, which leaves John with...what? Mother, God and Working Class Hero? Even Let It Be and Magical Mystery Tour was stronger. Indeed, make a double album from them, with appropriate contributions, and while much stronger than the mythical single album, it wouldn't compare to Sergeant Pepper, The White Album or Abbey Road...
I've listened to all of their albums and I think they are overrated. It is okay to criticise something, particularly something that is by its very nature subjective.
Ah, youth. These bands are only overrated for those who weren’t around when their influence became felt in music. It’s only “overrated” now because you grew up knowing about them, and music has continued to move in new and different directions. But the fact that we still talk about them and listen to their music today tells you something: It was influential then, is influential now…and is damn good music.
Music has continued to move in new and different directions because bands, especially the Beatles, laid down the original format, to so many musical genres. Saying they are overrated shows, they just don't get it.
Technically I was around when Led Zeppelin were active, but they were not played on the radio, no-one I knew had even heard of them and they definitely wouldn't ever have toured anywhere within reach. So I only discovered them long after they'd broken up when I was reading a book on British music history. Once I managed to track down some of their albums I was blown away and I'm no less impressed with them now three decades later.
@@loganmedia4401 Weren't played on the radio and no one you knew had heard of them? When/where was this? In the US they were a staple on FM radio and were selling out stadiums only a few years after their first album.
This is such a silly concept. I couldn’t even make it through a third of the list. It’s really just subjective nonsense. And the term overrated is so generalized as to be meaningless. Just another stupid top 10 list. No thanks.
Atom Heart Mother an Meddle are the underlying foundations paving their way for DSOTM-that two year period is of a major significance-an Obscured By Clouds should not be overlooked either Guid on you Baz!!
What a wonderful, intelligent and informatative blog. It's refreshing to hear someone speak so eloquently about music. Not patronising, condescending or rude. I agree totally with you about certain bands. I have tried to 'like' The Grateful Dead but have found it impossible. Maybe their shambolic acid drenched hippy 'free form' music just doesn't connect to music lovers in the UK. The best thing about them is probably their album covers/t-shirts. The wearing of them in the UK would display a degree of irony...much like Johnny Rotten wearing a Pink Floyd t-shirt did at the time.
Foo Fighters more relevant than Nirvana? FF is only relevant because it is all that is left of Nirvana. And because Dave Grohl loves getting in front of a camera.
@@rodbelding9523I think that opinion might be gaining traction. Grohl, has become the voice and face of ‘dad rock’ and just overexposes himself to the point of being annoying.
Albums like "Surfs Up" and "Holland" have always made me think The Beach Boys are underrated. The Beatles aren't overrated because they are the most influential band of all time.
Not a lot of people gave the early 70s albums a chance. These 2 albums are awesome. But the album before Surf's Up, Sunflower is a masterpiece. Their second best album behind Pet Sounds obviously. A perfect 10/10.
Must defend the Beach Boys. As well as Surf's Up and Holland, Sunflower (1970) is an excellent album, and 20/20 (1968) also with Breakaway, I Can Here Music and Do it Again' with its Rolling Stones guitar break. And a lot of this was done at the time without Brian Wilson, with Carl, Dennis and Mike Love more than impressive.
A lot of 70s glam was far more influential than Led Zeppelin. An inconvenient fact that generally is swept under the rug. If you look at a lot of music in the 70s, 80s and 90s, a lot of it was rehashing 70s glam.
Nothing about glam rock is 'swept under the rug' - except maybe for some revelations about Gary Glitter having a penchant for the young ones. The music of the 80s that sounded most like 'glam' was the 'hair metal' genre - i.e. Def Leppard, Poison, Motley Crue, Bon Jovi. But the more mainstream artists - think U2, Prince, Springsteen, Madonna, Tears for Fears, Nirvana - had far less 'glam' influence in their music.
@@wylierichardson-tu6zs Nirvana were influenced by 70s glam and even covered some songs of that ilk. With that said, Nirvanas music was garbage. So yes the statement that 70s glam and its influence is downplayed is true.
@@spencerwilliams461 Nirvana was actually one of the better bands of the 90s. I recall them doing a cover of Bowie's The Man Who Sold the World, but that alone doesnt make them a 'glam-influenced' band per se. Quiet Riot did two covers of well-known Slade songs, but they (Quiet Riot) were clearly more 'metal' than 'glam'. Pearl Jam - the other big ''grunge' band of the 90s - worshipped The Who and Neil Young, neither of whom could be classified as 'glam'.
@@wylierichardson-tu6zs Im not telling you what to like. Nirvana were influenced by the 70s glam of England and 70s American Glam. Though most 70s American Glam were ripping off The Nice, Bowie, Mott The Hopple, The Beatles and Slade. The Beatles aren't seen as 70s Glam but they had a profound influence on it. Rolling Stones too. Obvious a lot of that also goes back to American Rock n Roll as a direct influence... Pearl Jam weren't really Grunge, they were more of a faux Springsteen type of outfit.
I’m really sick and tired of people saying one band is better than another. I don’t really care what anyone thinks about the Beatles or any other band. Not everyone is going to like everything. I grew up listening to my brother saying the Stones were much better than the Beatles. That was his opinion. If it was left up to the Stones, no other British band would have made it here, because at the time, they were a cover band, and basically a bar band. Whether you like it or not, the Beatles were trailblazers, and they brought rock and roll music to maturity. In their era, they inspired others to push the musical envelope, making other bands try to top them. Unlike most of the bands from the ‘70s on, they were not satisfied repeating the same formula over and over just to sell records. If you don’t like them, fine. Everyone has different tastes. But overrated, NO.
Only just started watching and jolted into a comment due to Nirvana being at 9. If anything, they are under-rated by the muso snobs who didn't give Nevermind anything other than lukewarm reviews, yet which became the biggest album on the planet for a good five years. It's hard for those brought up on "traditional" hard rock to understand the blood curdling rage us (then) young men felt at the time, that Kurt Cobain filled in the late 80's and early 90's with his brand of melody grunge pop filled lyric and slow fast slow thunderclap noise of wonderfully joyous arrangements and yet awfully dark.... 'Polly' ; 'Something in the way', through to "In bloom" 'et all - that was also radio friendly. Plus the dude was a good looking lad that coulda had any lady he wanted, but ended up with The Hole lady...we know how that all turned out before he joined the 27 club. Nirvana's influence is still felt today, especially by any bands that want to try to become the antidote to this current Taylor Swift era of toilet paper music - i.e, yes sh - it.
I was always more of a Soundgarden fan. I, in my opinion, think they are a better band. I think Nirvana are a bit overrated. But they are not underrated. About the reviews? Ever heard of Robert Christgau? Well he is known as the "The Dean of American Rock Critics," a nickname which he gave to himself actually 🙄. He gave Nevermind an A. He gave Superunkown an A-. But his reviews on certain genres are the most biased opinions in music. He constantly puts down heavy metal and prog. Loves almost anything punk or rap. He gave a record an A without really listening to it. What is great now is you can now listen to albums before you buy them. However, I do respect your opinion. Now about Taylor Swift. I think she is very talented musician and business woman. However, I find her song writing to be extremely childish, boring and uninspiring. She writes songs about love, people who have done her wrong and ex's. She calls that karma, I call it pettiness and uninspiring. Blues and country music have been singing and writing songs about how that no good man/woman broke their heart. There is no growth. I sure do miss good music. Oh, got to go. Wrote something disparagingly about Taylor Swift and there are Swifties at my door with fire and pitchforks. Cheers 😅
@@dohanddonuts5716 "Blues and country music have been singing and writing songs about how that no good man/woman broke their heart. There is no growth." I am no fan whatsoever of country music (bar Steve Earle), but you do the blues a huge injustice, because there is huge variety topics in the Blues, with everything from your list through tales of Gangsters (Willie The Wimp), Insects (Dragonfly) and a long list of etceteras. In fact the whole panoply of rock rests on the granite of Blues.
@@davidcolin6519 Woe. I think you are not understanding what I meant. I just saying that blues and country (which I'm not a fan of) have been writing about heartache for along time before she started. Taylor's music has no growth. I'm also quite aware the influences of both country and the blues made what rock and roll today. I grew up listening to it with my parents. Taylor's music isn't written for us. We are not her demographic. Where is Beavis and Butthead to say, "This sucks. Change It."
@@paulcollins5586 repeat after me "This is only my opinion". My opinion is that you're wrong, and that I find that the music produced by the Smashing Pumpkins is emjminently forgettable. But that is MY opinion, and I would be surprised, and disappointed if everybody agreed.
Rock'n Roll Hall Of Fame: The Beatles, Beach Boys, Grateful Dead, Led Zeppelin, Nirvana, Rush, Pink Floyd...could the hall of fame be a hall of overrated, or dear me, a hall of crap ?
People who call the Beach Boys overrated probably have never listened to anything past Pet Sounds. Like you said, Surfs Up, Sunflower, Holland and even Wild Honey are amazing. I do agree though about their 80's output.
I can understand the point of view that *as a band* The Beach Boys are overrated because during their peak years, they hardly ever played on their own records. Most of the playing was done by The Wrecking Crew. But is the *music* that Brian Wilson wrote overrated? Hell no! It surpasses the Beatles in some ways, and Paul McCartney himself would admit as much.
Ive always thought of those post pet sounds albums as frustratingly patchy as the songwriting lacked an overall direction due to Brian checking out somewhat but if you put the best 12-13 tracks together from those albums its very very good indeed
@@AbbeyRoadkill1good point with the playing their own instruments part. But I still think they gave us awesome music. I used to write them off (even though I'm a huge 60s fan) but now I love them! Top 20 band of all time. They're only at 20 because I love 19 more bands ahead of them. I'm a huge fan of those bands too. If you ask me what I like, I'd let you know what bands I love. Great band and not overrated.
Dream Theater is my favorite band. It’s hard to call them overrated. It’s rare to see such melody combined with crazy musical structures. I listened to a lot of prog metal, but I haven’t found anything better yet. There are a lot of worthy bands, but I haven’t heard anything like them.
@@simpleman5688Once upon a time, I also couldn’t accept LaBrie’s vocals. But over time, I realized that he was well suited for DT. It’s a pity that now he’s too much of a substitute. He can’t handle the material well live.
@@tdrvknstin, yes. I think the same about Geddy Lee's vocals with Rush. Horrible, but I cannot imagine anyone else singing them. The overrated aspect of Rush to me is the adulation poured onto them about their virtuosity, as though no other band could touch them. While very talented, they are no more talented than many other rock or jazz fusion bands, including Dream Theater. When one thinks about Cream, The Jimi Hendrix Experience, Emerson, Lake and Palmer, Yes, Zeppelin, or any number of bands, Rush is considered another talented band. Let's not even mention Mahavishnu Orchestra...
@@robertglisson6319 Geddy's singing improved vastly after Hemispheres. He was great until Father Time took his voice. Dream Theatre can't write great songs. Sure, they have one here and there, but Rush did it for a long time and were more consistent. This is what sets apart Rush from the rest of the bands mentioned---their longevity. And don't talk to me about Yes because they constantly had a revolving door of musicians. Rush's last album was one of their best. Can you say the same about Led Zep or the Stones?
I’ve never understood the whole Grateful Dead thing. I am fully across all forms of classic rock being 62 years old and a dedicated music lover. I’d struggle to name a single song
Queen, no question. Partly generated by Freddie's tragic death, also the relentless TV documentaries, and the weird mythologising of the Live Aid performance. I read recently in The Times that this was "the greatest ever live concert". Seriously? Greatest ever? They were a decent band but that's about it, imho.
The problem with Queen is, that most people people who have a (positive or negative) opinion of the band, know exactly just the songs from the first Greatest Hits or the usual handful of songs that are played on the radio, but they think they've totally figured out that band. ^^
i agree. i live in spain and its amazing how many people regard queen as the best band ever. maybe they had 3 or 4 decent songs. who could think radio ga ga is anything but awful?
@@mori1bund, truer words never spoken. I wonder if any band had as many great songs that never made the airwaves as Queen, while having so many rather mediocre songs selected as hits? I could listen to the REST of Night At The Opera without EVER playing Bohemian Rhapsody, but that is the song everyone hears. News Of The World is filled with great music, but all most hear are We Will Rock You/We Are The Champions. I also think that the Mystique of Mercury overshadowed the band. The movie was basically a biopic of Freddie, whose personality was really over the top, the Jim Morrison of his day without the self-destruction.
Queen were a great band, wall to wall talent. I wouldn't put them in the top 5 all time or anything. But according to Wiki they're one of only seven acts to sell more than 250 million records, which is pretty impressive. The others are the Beatles, Elvis, MJ, Elton, Madonna, and Zep.
Blackmore said stuff that was taken as deliberate when he was just saying it for the sake of it. As with Townshend, he once stated that since Clapton only used a plectrum instead of plectrum and a picking finger it meant he couldn't play guitar 😁 not to be taken too seriously!
I'm not a miserable bastard! I'm the exact opposite of miserable. Outside of UA-cam and its endless stream of panty wetting cheerleaders, The Beatles should be nowhere near this list. UA-cam oversaturation is at the heart of their inclusion here, but it should not be used as a evidence against them.
Led Zeppelin may have plagiarised/nicked some songs, but with their vast body of brilliant work they still created more than enough songs of their own to practically triple the output of many of their contemporaries.
Anyone who doesn’t like The Beatles has absolutely zero to say to me about music taste, opinion, and commentary. The Beatles are absolutely impossible to overrate.
Sigh. The Beatles are hands down the most influential band in rock history, and their chart success speaks for itself. You can't say they're overrated unless you're just being contrarian. I have time for all the others on the list, although Rush fans will be mad since they all identify as underrated band lovers.
Agreed. Some people think it's edgy to bag on the Beatles. You don't have to like them, but you can't deny their importance. Don't like the Beatles? That's fine, but I bet the members of your favorite bands do.
@@modernrelic7092 I'm not sure I've ever heard a famous musician disrespect the Beatles. When you're admired by everyone from ABBA to Ozzy, you've done well
@@plymouth491 except to all the bands they influenced it does translate to good, so go ahead and disagree with every band who was profoundly influenced by the Beatles so that you get to be right
Perfect list. Early Aerosmith and Metallica were interesting for a few albums, last 90% of their career absolutely mediocre and forgettable. Guns and roses have a great debut album they have lived off for almost 40 years. Bon Jovi are not even worth talking about.
@@colgrey438 Nobody is using the mediocre and forgettable stuff to prop them up. I personally don't hold bad albums against a band if they have enough good stuff to make me a fan. Also Guns and Roses' Use Your Illusion albums were huge. Their career was short but they accomplished more with a few albums than many bands with long careers. I won't mention Jovi they aren't worth it 😉
I've always had a hard time with the term ''overrated'', it's people who don't like a band that's popular and that piss them off. It's not because you don't like a band that he's overrated. We see that alot with prog snobs in particular.
I enjoy these videos immensely, having said that lists of favorite bands, bands I hate, you hate, underrated, or overrated is very subjective, one thing I cannot stand is people who are extremely narrow minded in their musical tastes and belittle others if they enjoy bands or artists they do not enjoy themselves, I also find as I have grown older I have expanded my own musical palette and come to appreciate bands I would not have given a passing thought to when I was younger which proves that a love of music is something that lasts a lifetime and changes as much as we do on our journey through life.
A little ironic that, in Primus' Year of the Parrot, we get the lyric, "Take a Zeppelin riff And you alter it a bit And make lots of money It's called plagiarism." I love Zeppelin, but they could never get away with that stuff now.
Whether or not you care for The Beatles (they never moved me the way Yes, Rush, old Genesis, or even Iron Maiden do) there's "before the Beatles" and "after the Beatles" in non-classical music. Especially their later work was ground-breaking in so many ways.
As someone who was in my early 20s when Oasis broke through, I totally didn't get the hype around them - I didn't get it at the time and nothing's changed since. Sure, they have some decent songs, even some classic songs, but they're not - and never were in my opinion - a particularly great band. A lot of the bands mentioned here have stood the test of time, and will continue to do so - in fifty years people will still know who Floyd and Zep and The Beatles are, no question about it. But my prediction is that Oasis won't endure in the same way, and that over time they'll become increasingly forgotten.
Who were overrated more, Blur or Oasis? Oasis were a good pop band with plenty of good songs, which is fine, but can't see why anyone would rate them for more than that.
As players they were terrible. Just a bunch of guys, with musicianship far under minimum standard, plodding along. When the Gallagher’s decided to fire their rhythm section, the new guys had the unenviable task of just mimicking the more terrible older musicians. And not causing a fight. So as not to show up the fact neither Noel or Liam could really play anything.
yeah that doesn't make them overrated does it because clearly a lot of people loved them and they reignited the fire into what had become a very stale very boring music scene in the early 90s, they didn't need to artsy or exceptional musicians they just said what we all needed to hear the attitude we all wanted and many bands today will count Oasis as a major influence so no they're not going away easily
It was the Beatles that convinced the members of this jug band called "Mother Mcree's Uptown Jug Champians" to plug in and rebrand themselves as the "Warlocs" then re rebrand themselves as "The Grateful Dead"
i love 'emotional denouement' to RUSH! i think that's exactly why i love them, & i'm the one who hates anything 'agit-pop' or deconstructivist-seeming. i don't like long instrumental solos, or that 'magician singer songwriter' vibe either but what can i say, their music's absolutely TONAL, they're able to pull it off . . .
What a great list and the reasononing is dead on. I think the problem with most of these bands, is that they started believing their own press! They mostly have 'some' great songs or even albums. But to faun over these people for getting out of bed and gracing us with their presence seems to go too far. And for that reason, I own a ton of music from most if these bands, (my MP3 and MP4 list is almost 60 hours long) but damned few FULL albums from any of them. I loved this video. Keep at it.
Pet Sounds is very good music weighed down by mopey puerile lyrics. I'll make an exception for God Only Knows, which is transcendently beautiful, and for Sloop John B., which is a folk song tarted up.
It never ceases to amaze me ,that just because someone does not like an Album/group/singer they say there overrated . Some of the names on this list have sold millions of albums wide world ,so how can they be overrated when so many people like their records.Its an over used term which means nothing, if you like or don't like an Album/group/singer it does not mean they are over or under rated, its a nonsense saying. Thank you ,you made good comments to the list
I agree with you about Floyd. I always thought the Eagles grossly overrated. Joe Walsh joining them was a big disappointed. Sleepy Joe just made them more boring. Fleetwood Mac was brilliant from their first records up thru Bare Trees. The California-based Mac from 1975 on is occasionally pleasant- but NOT brilliant.
Great vid, please do a "10 Rush Songs I Don't Want to Hear Again". My list (in no particular order): - Time Stand Still - Dog Years - Lakeside Park - Passage to Bangkok - Spirit of the Radio - Limelight - Vital Signs - Working Man - Mission - The Garden
Very nice job on this my friend. People voting The Beatles is pure idiocy. The invented pop, psychedelic and hard rock music. I agree that I have a niggling feeling that Pink Floyd and Led Zeppelin are a bit overrated in comparison to what else was happening in their salad days. I will defend Nirvana to an extent in that our poor lost soul Kurt was not the most musically gifted but his voice had an emotional/fragile tenor that really spoke to a generation that really sparked an awareness of vunerability that no one else in mainstream rock music did. I think that the current "woke" culture as well as the impending bed-wetting nu metal culture owes a lot to him. He was the CCR/John Fogerty of his generation.
I'm a musician, with qualifications in music, and I agree with most of his opinions. People who don't really understand music, just think the bands who sell the most must be the best. In the same way a 12 year old argues that McDonalds is better than a posh restaurant.
Ah, the best thing about music; I can like what I like and not care what others think. I agree on some points, disagree on others and the best part is that we are still discussing, sharing and listening to some of the best music ever created in our lifetimes. Brilliant!
I think I agree with this comment. I don't particularly like Oasis, but I also don't think they are rated highly by people outside the U.K., so I wouldn't bother to put them on a list of the most overrated.
Enjoyed your video, thank you.. people forgot to list Foo Fighters, besides 2 decent first albums, a lot of safe, middle of the road, dull ones.. People think everything's overrated if you see this list.
I can't understand why Radiohead isn't on this list. They are absolutely terrible and yet get massive amounts of critical acclaim for the meandering tuneless crap theyve spewed out for 30 years now
On The Beach Boys, I’m with Brian Wilson in terms of their best song, Barry. “Darlin’ “ is just sublime. Better than “Good Vibrations” and “God Only Knows”. Great vid as usual.
i really like the Beach Boys output during the 1970s, amongst the wack throwaway fillers there are some great elegiac pieces, and 'Lady Lynda' from 1979 was their last great highpoint imo.
I have to agree about LL even though it's pretty cheesy. Love You is another favourite of mine but it is forever getting slagged off as the BBs worst album. When I listen to music I don't always need it to be a masterpiece.
Anyone that claims that Elvis or The Beatles are overrated and have not bothered listening to the records and/or have no sense of historical perspective. Without them, your favorite band would probably not exist.
agree with most of that, Pink Floyd the Syd Barrett days they was magnificent, after Syd they suffered a bit from head up their arses syndrome in a big way, as for Blackmores take on Pete Townshend, Petes guitar work is limited to suit his songwriting also playing with Keith Moon and John Entwistle restricted him, however since Keith and John passed Pete Townshends guitar work has flourished given his new found freedom to express himself more live on stage......big Who fan here, also dont rate Blackmores bash at Folk, but he could never compete with the great Richard Thompson, Fairport Convention, Steeleye Span etc etc.....a lot of the Beatles stuff was Tosh, but a lot of their stuff was truly wonderful....Love Music Love Life, could say that about Beer as well...haha.
...great and highly entertaining review, Barry...of course lists of the very best, overrated, underrated and worst bands... are overall: overrated! 😎 But when you are there for the fun of it, then the 'overrated-ness' becomes possibly even 'underrated-ness' (still following me?) I can live with all kinds of judgement about any band... every single one of this low-10 has many fans, who rate them as the best band, ever gracing this planet... ...but: the Beatles, and I'm very (not) sorry, are indeed the wonder, that they are looked at... they had a few 'misses', but you can almost count those with your fingers... as much as this provokes riots among the rebellious, I put it down to 'not knowing enough about them' to be able to comprehend, what they've done... ⭐🔥💖
This is great. I love your deadpan delivery, even-handedness and range of knowledge. Good catch on the Bert Jansch episode, but see also Davey Graham (White Summer and Over the Hills both cop his version of She Moved through the fair). The Dead weren't particularly ill-disciplined when they played with Bob Bylan, by the way. It's only with the VE that I disagree with any of the choices here. If nothing else, it gave us Lou Reed. Do you really think the Beatles were that good. Borrowed from Bob Dylan? Well, yes, but more. By the time Sgt Pepper came out Bob had already released Bringing it all back home, Highway 61 revisited and Blonde on Blonde (first rock double album - beats Zappa's double by a week and Sgt Pepper by just under a year (Highway 61 kills it by about 18 months)!). So whos driving the album culture now? Obviously you do credit Dylan, but don't dismiss this as a Dylan Fan Rant. I should point out that even very good bands can be over-rated, and some of the ones on your list (not Nirvana, not Oasis, by the way) are very good, but still over-rated. Cheers.
You terrified me with the opening comment about Townshend. Mercifully, the Who (greatest live act in rock) were not on the list. That said, the Beatles? Really? I agree with Velvet Underground, Pink Floyd, Grateful Dead and some others being on the list. I don't get the enthusiasm for them.
I must have missed something. I have a lot of live Who and a lot of live Dead. The Who cannot touch the Dead when it comes to playing live. Yes, some of the Who's music is definitely good when played live, but the Who did not improvise like the Dead did. Maybe you just don't know the Dead, but that does not make them overrated.
@@CO-PE-123 Different strokes for different folks. My comment was spawned by the hint that someone might think the Who is overrated. More egregious is the actual placement of Zep and the Beatles on that list. Again, just my opinion.
Love your channel! For future reference, Jansch is pronounced with a hard J. Found that out recently from the man himself (via the medium of documentary on youtube)
I will honestly say that I never got into the Beatles and couldn't understand the fuss but then watched the recent documentary on the Sgnt Pepper Album - mind blown! Perhaps The Beatles now lay claim to one of the most underated bands of all time by those not around at the time??
Like Caitlin Moran said: "The Beatles is a grid from which I understand everything ... the way you can progress as an artist or human, I understand it throught the first you'll be in Hamburg and do your ten thousand hours, (---) and then you'll go through you know your punky urgent phase, then you'll go through your imperial phase, then you go through your experimental phase, then it all go heroin bad".
Much of this says more about the people who voted than it does about the bands themselves. Some people don't have the emotional or mental acuity to appreciate the music in its time. It is the old trope about I don't know about art but I know what I like.
Saying Rush are overrated because they have no soul is just that one person’s opinion, a preference which doesn’t make them overrated. I’ve always based overrated artists on their technique/skill or lack of. Factors like Influence I’ve never taken into account because it’s too loose a term, it’s a preference again as every band has influence to a certain degree.
@@canalesworks1247 just as bad lol , McCarthy wrote some beautiful songs, I have no idea what he was thinking with these two. Could be worse though…..Like if he asked Yoko to guest sing on one of his songs! 💀💀💀 God knows what Lennon was thinking or taking
I wonder if you would have hated Maxwells Silver Hammer if it was on Pepper or the White Album? Neither their greatest or worst song, but just feels out of place on Abbey Road.
@@glumonion1454 I’m trying give a honest answer I’ll say YES I wouldn’t like it no matter what album and since I’m being honest I’m not a fan of I’m A Walrus from MMT
I was wondering if you suggest the top ten rock bands based on musical quality. Every time I ask someone the best rock bands from a musical perspective I don't get any clear answer. Usually I hear that the Beatles were commercially successful, however from a musical perspective they are not so great. Thank you.
I don't agree with at least half that list. I think people who were not old enough to listen to these bands when they were releasing albums or were maybe too old to understand their influence on contemporary music when they came out would say they are overrated. Led Zeppelin was a huge influence. Yes, they stole other people's music like the Rolling Stones seemed to do in the early days. To me, some of the most overrated bands are Kiss and Guns n Roses. They were neither good nor unique but have a heavy following from mostly young boys at the time who grew up thinking they were the best bands in the world. Two artists I find to be overrated because of the bands they used to be in are Alice Cooper and Ozzy Osborne. Neither one is anywhere as good asbthe bands they left. I also think Peter Gabriel's solo career produced inferior music to Genesis. To me, it was a letdown. There are a lot of bands and musicians releasing music these days who are overrated because of how many hits they get from streaming sources. Musical contestant shows and streaming have produced a lot of bland, similar sounding artists who seem to be very popular now. By the way, how is the Grateful Dead overrated. You either like them or you don't. They did not have a lot of hit songs. People who follow them mostly like their live music, so if you didn't follow them, you would have no idea what the band is all about. Lots of people might say the Allman Brothers were a great jam band, but I would argue that the Dead were better. Sadly, most people who would say Pink Floyd is overrated probably haven't listened to their entire catalog. They made a lot of music, and it isn't just The Wall and Dark Side of the Moon. People are entitled to their opinions, but I am surprised by the bands that were called out on this list and by the ones that are missing.
Most bands and musicians name check Led Zeppelin because they were a big industry plant at the time. There music was poor, even with plagiarisms and most of what they were doing was done better by other bands who don't get enough credit. Every music nerd and dullard musician name checks them because they know it will get them talked about if they pretend to like them. Plenty of people hated that band for not being very good and having poor songwriting.
It's funny how Guns and Roses, or Queen, wasn't here but Led Zeppelin, Rush, The Beach Boys, Pink Floyd and The Beatles were. As a few mentioned below, it's again one of those "these guys are popular so I hate them" lists. Every one of these bands were highly influential, except for maybe Oasis. You can't be overrated when you've influenced a whole generation of musicians, whether a person likes them or not.
Most online criticism of Nirvana often comes across as elitist and snobbish. What Nirvana did was so basic, so derivative and so lacking in depth that you'd think critics would manage to do something better at some point in their lives. There seems be an attitude among some that music is either as complex as jazz-fusion or prog rock at its most experimental or it's 'mainstream' garbage. I'm not saying that anyone has to like Nirvana. But I don't think writing hits is a crime especially hits that define an entire generation and epoch. Nor is it a fair to act like just because Kurt Cobain wasn't Tom Scholz or Frank Zappa that his contribution and creativity deserves no respect.
Morning Barry. There is lot of over rated videos about at the moment. We all have different ears. There are no over rated bands. We all like different styles and music. My favourite band of all times are Rush. Very very few of my muso friends like them and my Mrs abhors them. She attended one of my favourite gigs and she hated it. I’ve never rated ELP (I know, sacrilege)! But appreciate how good they were and would never consider them over rated. I did see the Andy Edwards video and just thought it was pretentious tosh. Hey ho.
I absolutely agree The Beatles were over rated hugely. When you play instruments yourself, and have qualifications in music production, and really understand music, you can see the truth. The truth is, The Beatles were cheesy, simplistic, basic, rubbish. Their defining moment (Sgt Peppers) was only decent because Pink Floyd were in another room at Abby Road recording Piper At The Gates Of Dawn, and the members of The Beatles took turns sneaking in to listen (copy) what Floyd were doing. Led Zep absolutely over rated, Page was just a thief who stole all of his best bits from other better musicians. People love crap though, it's like the musical equivalent of McDonalds and some 12 year old arguing that McDonalds is better than any restaurant because they sell many more meals.
The Beatles catalogue of songs is anything but cheesy, simplistic and basic - Paperback Writer/Revolution/Strawberry Fields Forever. The quip about stealing from Pink Floyd is Fortean Times\Nexus ANALysis.
@@Ruda-n4h I looked on your channel, to gauge your intelligence, experience, and how that backed up your opinion. Mr no content 8 subscribers. I don't think that adds any credibility to your fanboyism.
There's a lot to unpack from this list and the opinions surrounding it so I'll try to keep it short, and yes, I'm speaking to the man behind the channel and all of you as well. I look at overrated bands as being in the right place at the right time in terms of the music and more importantly, the commercial viability. Every single one of the bands mentioned had the right music and the right advertising. Oasis would never have survived the Brit Pop era if it weren't for the marketing and their forced rivalry with Blur. Nirvana came onto the scene when grunge was healthy and growing at the very tail end of the 80's going into the 90's. It can absolutely be said that Alice in Chains is better than Nirvana but the latter was more commercially viable in the end and still is because of Nevermind and Kurt's suicide at 27, thus being immortalized by his fans and put on the "great artists who died at 27" list. When it comes to the likes of Zeppelin, The Floyd, and the Beatles, the marketing behind them catapulted them into stardom when the time and music was right as well. I tend to joke with people that I'm too much of a Floyd fan to listen to Zeppelin so I simply won't attempt to try and analyze them. Your opinions of the Floyd very much mirror my own and your analysis of AHM gave me a new appreciation for the album I never considered. When it comes to The Beatles, loving their music has been a lifelong journey and I can't say it's all good but the right stuff tickles my music bone with glee and gloom. Imagine falling in love with Accross the Universe while simultaneously the woman I loved and her daughter who called me Dad just up and left me. Had to put that song on the backburner and is still there. As an amateur historian of music, I also cannot stress enough to people the importance of how bands like The Floyd, Beatles and Beach Boys created new techniques for recording and mixing sounds into extraordinary works of art and that modern music could and would never be the same. Thanks as always for your words of wisdom and maybe try this for a poll: The most overrated bands most people have never heard of. (Until I went to college, I had no idea who the likes of King Crimson, Yes, Genesis, and Gentle Giant were, and punk that wasn't the Ramones)
Some folks confuses overexposed with overrated. Often because those folks feel a need for defining themselves as original individuals, visionary people with an eye for what many others can’t see as brilliant. Hence such folks despises things that are a bit too popular or widely acknowledged... The Beatles are surely such a overexposed band. And it’s their own fault. Even after all these years hardly a year goes by without a “new” Beatles release in some form. That doesn’t make The Beatles a less groundbreaking band though. They were clearly a musical revolution back in their day. And it’s hard to imagine how music would have developed if they hadn’t been there. Hence The Beatles can hardly be defined as overrated. In my eyes exposion and sales figures has nothing to do with whether a band is overrated or not.
As already alluded to in a few other posts, just because you like something doesn't mean it's genius, and just because you DON'T like something, doesn't mean it's shit or overrated. Let's also give credit to producers who (as I've heard from some less-than-awesome demos from bands) often times transformed a band's mediocre ideas into amazing finished products.
Maybe we should differentiate between "bands I don't like" and "bands that are overrated".
Yeah, pretty much.
Exactly this. It's usually just a bunch of tiresome people who want to snipe at bands they don't like. Poor dears, having to endure music they dislike, must lead hard lives.
For me to really dislike a band it not only has to have bad music, but it has to be popular enough that I keep hearing its bad music, thereby causing me to really hate them.
I have seen bands at bars whom I did not like, but I only heard them once, and I do not even remember their names. I can’t really hate them or say they are overrated.
The two are all too often used interchangeably.... and incorrectly... as are their opposites. I've long said that underrated is the most over used and misused word in music.
How many times have we heard - ">insert-name-here< is the greatest guitarist / drummer / singer / whatever... EVER!!" when in fact, they're competent but pretty much just average but they play stuff that person happens to find pleasing?
In nearly all cases, if you played 5 random musicians for them playing unfamiliar music, they couldn't pick out the one who they claim is the greatest.
There is no way to differentiate because music is all subjective.
If The Beatles had stuck to their early 3 minute pop songs then they would have been overrated. BUT, when you consider how they developed (Abbey Road, Revolver, St Peppers) in such a short space of time to describe them as overrated is ridiculous.
By Hard Day's Night they were already showing signs of real growth. They had a very short early period. In fact their entire run of original material is at best 8 years.
@@canalesworks1247 See, one of my personal central musical criticism tropes is that if The Beatles died in a plane crash after A Hard Day’s Night, they’d still be the band that completely revolutionized pop/rock music. “She Loves You” is the rarely-acknowledged most impactful single of all time.
@@scottanthonyweidner8692 Agreed.
@@scottanthonyweidner8692You're completely on the mark, not least because A Hard Day's Night was completely self-composed, which was unprecedented at the time. That album is the reason that artists who don't write their own material are now maligned, when in fact it was the norm before that. Even brilliant originals like Buddy Holly and Roy Orbison padded their albums out with covers.
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After reading a couple hundred very entertaining comments, I wonder if the label "overrated" is being confused with "overplayed" or "oversaturated?" At 68, I'm old enough to pretty much remember it all when it was shiny and new, but there are certain bands that are on perpetual rotation on classic rock stations. For example, I am sick to death of Stairway To Heaven, but I also struggle to think of a better crafted rock song (as opposed to rock n' roll). There is a reason why Led Zeppelin, Pink Floyd and the Beatles are oversaturated, at least for those of us who heard these songs at least 100,000 times. But overrated? Not at all. For me, it is about genres. The Velvet Underground is overrated to me because they seemed to be more a New York City thing than a national band, and the Cool Kids listened to something edgy and different than the usual stuff on the radio. I never was into punk or grunge, either. My tastes tend to run towards musicianship, which is why I love prog and mainstream hard rock. But everyone has different tastes.
Have to agree on Stairway....can't stand it!
You're my man, pal. Don't need to write an entry - you did it.
Interesting take.
I am also 68 years old and think between us we may epitomise the dichotomy. I enjoy musicianship as much as anyone but if it doesn't have a genuine edge of rebellion against the MOR and the insane society we all inhabit, it's just not rock and roll.
Since I've Been Loving You, live version. Nothing displays Jimmy Page's superb musicianship more than this track in my opinion (and there's a lot of competition). He's not playing his guitar, his soul is howling into the night.
Bingo! You left off Free Bird as another song- not band in the heard 100,000+ times.
Completely agree with defence of Rush, but just when were Rush actually appreciated to the level to be over rated? If anything they are under rated. I just think people are so used to living in the internet these days we get a skewed idea on what general opinions are. Most people I know wouldnt even know who Rush were!
Totally agree w/your comment about people who live inside the internet having skewed views about what's actually popular in the real world. I'm not saying Rush isn't popular, but on the grand scheme of things, they're nowhere near Zeppelin, Floyd, or The Beatles in popularity.
have you never met a rush fan? they never shut up about it
@@neonwired4978 I'm a Rush fan..................
@@neonwired4978 I'm a Rush fan.
Have you ever hung around with musicians, because the one's I've known talk about Rush more than pretty much every other band combined.
Basically a people’s list of ‘ I don’t like/ understand them, so it must be crap ‘
Sounds like you are saying "If you dont like what I like you must not understand it"
That's how I feel about Revolution #9. If I were teaching a Musique Concrete class and a student showed up with something that slick and well constructed I'd give him an A and get him scholarship to write more Musique Concrete. Lennon gets an A for that one in my book.
Music is subjective and we all like different things. I love ELP and Yes but, can appreciate why people dislike them.
I dislike The Clash, Pulp and Madness but, they must have all had something as so many people loved those bands.
Let’s just appreciate all forms of music/genres and the joy it gives us all.
Music is the ultimate pleasure in life.
Yeah, what he said. My criteria is if the music makes me dance in my head, feet or heart, then I like it. To quote JayZ, "if you don't like my music you can hit fast forward."
Yes but saying The Beatles even Zepp are overrated is simply being ignorant. Clearly they do not really listen!!! oh well, such opinions do not count anyway..
@@handebarlas6248The contributions that The Beatles and Led Zep made to music should never be underestimated.
Oh man, Madness is one of the most UNDER-rated bands of all time, especially in the states where most only know them by one or two songs. Madness had 17 top 10 and 31 top 40 hits on the UK charts. Most only know them by their "nutty ska" sound but they had a SLEW of perfect pop songs after that first album. They had a lot of different styles, so of course some you may not like.
Listen to Sun and the Rain, One Better Day, Grey Day, Tomorrows Just Another Day, Never Knew Your Name, Rain, Ironshirt, Forever Young, Africa, You'll Lose a Good Thing (remake) for those interested in discovering this band.
Neil Tennant recently recalled sitting with Bowie at the Brits where they were performing Hello Spaceboy. They watched Oasis rehearsing. At the end, Bowie leaned over and said one word to Tennant. “Parochial” and walked out. 😂😂
And as always Bowie was right. ^^
@@mori1bund right up his own arse, but right in thinking oasis stank
Love that 😂
And l would have said to Bowie....
'Er, whats that mean son?'
@@Lloyd1885 😆
Even if the Beatles are not your favorite band, which may be very probable, I can't take anyone seriously if they say the Beatles are overrated. I just can't.
We had breakfast bowls in my house (in 1966/7) with four Beatles faces. You may present that to the overrated camp, as an example of everyone else being wrong.
I hear ya…
They are too acclaim, they are not so good as most of the '70's band.
And it was thanks to them that we had The Rutles
The Beatles music has no swing, it is soulless. Has anyone ever danced to a Beatles song bar 1 or 2 songs? It all sounds incredibly dated too. Compare the catchy and admittedly danceable Lady Madonna from 1968 to the quite similar I'm Waiting For The Man from 1967 which has a layered groove. Personally I'm not one for ranking music, people should just listen to what they like, and in the proportion that maximises their own enjoyment. In that regard more or less every band, album and song is over rated because terms like "essential listening", are bandied around. They are just another band that can be happily absent from a record collection of hundreds of albums and the owner wouldn't miss them one bit.
In my opinion there are only two things related to the type of music this channel discusses where one should not use the over rated label, the albums Dark Side Of The Moon and Rumours. These have been purchased in large numbers in multiple countries continuously since their release over 50 years and almost 50 years ago respectively. In contrast Sgt Pepper relies on 10 multiple anniversary years and that publicity to get sales. The much more recent Thriller, widely documented as the biggest seller has dropped off considerably in the last decade and thus maybe much more of its time; it is outside the scope of this topic but a good reference point.
When it comes to streaming the only classic rock artist that makes an impression is Queen, so there is an argument to be made they get a pass too as they are clearly reaching across multiple generations.
Lol. The irony of wearing a Grateful Dead shirt while conducting this video 😂
That's awesome, sir.
I'll take any of these bands on their worst day over today's so called "artists" on their best.
The Beatles being the most overrated is a claim by people who do not understand music or history.
The world's first Boy Band is something...I guess.
Some of us only know what we like. We don't need to understand why we don't like The Beatles and history isn't going to make us spin their vinyls. Bland is bland, insipid is insipid is Beatles to many.
@@atlasking6110 I will assume that was supposed to be a slight. Good job...I guess.
@@QuoPaperPlane You do not have to like classical music to understand the influence and ramifications that continue to reverberate in modern music today. History is supposed to teach us, which should be objective. If you believe the Beatles are insipid, that is subjective. Understand that and become a bit more understanding of the original question.
I think it's fine to say "I don't like The Beatles" , we all have our own tastes obviously. If, however, you just say "The Beatles were rubbish" then I think music isn't for you, try stamp collecting.
People need to know the difference between Popular and overrated. Some bands, like Zeppelin, the Beatles and Beach Boys are popular for a reason
Like the majority of mainstream artist?
Spot on.
Yes, promotion of "the star system" has been an extremely effective sales tool since the very early days of Hollywood.
Beach Boys are overrated. Beatles & Led Zep no. But these are all subjective opinions.
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The Beach Boys are overrated to people who have never listened to them. If you know the beach boys as the Pendleton wearing surf rock band, yeah they suck, if you know them as the genre defying, boundary shattering, mind altering band of the mid 60s and mid 70s no. Brian Wilson is among the greatest composers of all time, anyone who isn’t musically illiterate will tell you that and with confidence.
Rush ? Floyd ? The damn Beatles ? Man, is nothing sacred
No. No it isn't!
@@robtyman4281 No one agrees. They already made great stuff before Stairway to heaven even came out. The three albums prior to it are all classics. And after the 4th album, there was still more than many other famous bands can boast.
@@robtyman4281no! Looks like you’re on your own. Black Dog, Rock n Roll, Ramble On, Ozone baby…and 100’s others. Probably the greatest rock band ever.
@@Sanks247 Counting only their studio albums, Zeppelin did not release 100 songs. I understand loving a band, but being factually accurate matters.
Not to mention the greatest Rock band of all time, Led Zeppelin. Laughable poll
I remember a quote from someone saying " Never trust somebody who dislikes animals and the Beatles"
Well I love animals …
@@mhitson7483 Never mind 50% ain't bad.
Tell me whyyyyyy
@@marksomething Tell me why. Great Beatles song. I think the quote is self explanatory.
@@martinklein4651 I meant where you probably heard the quote
Lists like this...
Reasons to highly rate a band.
1. You are a musician and appreciate the skill of the musicians and song writing.
2. The music is a touchstone in your life, and those touchstones are myriad.
3. It was the music of your people, your youth, your crew, your family, your whatever.
Reasons bands get overblown
1. Radio
2. Media
3. Sales driven push $$
To see past the curtain of Oz, one must recognize them in context of time.
For the Iconic bands on the list you must have perspective. If an individual would take the time to listen to the music of the other bands of the era and what music they were producing and also what came before them, then and only then can you see/hear why some of these bands are so highly regarded at the time. Over time they become legend for breaking ground. I would never expect my teenage grand-kids to listen to the Beatles at my house and it become a life changing experience for him or her. They have no context or point of reference.
I fell in love with 1950s Doo-Wop at 13 years old after seeing American Graffiti in 1973. As soon as that music was put in context the lights came on and I wanted more doo-wop, a Ducks Ass haircut and a hotrod.
Carry on Cuz!!
I would replace The Beatles, Led Zeppelin and Rush with Coldplay, Radiohead and Korn.
Would suit me fine!
blackmore is right Townshend IS overrated, reason he hates zeppelin is because page is a far better guitar player.
@@morrisanderson3180 Perhaps as a musiciann I couldn't judge myself as I am no musician at all .
But the Who were a far more exiting live band than Deep Purple ever were. And as with rebelliousness, No excitement = no rock and roll.
Better or worse? depends what you are judging on.
I enjoy both btw.
Ditto
The Doors surprisingly slipped under the radar of this nonsensical subjective overrated poll
So how many bands do you think formed after The Beatles first Ed Sullivan appearance? You might not understand their importance unless you were there. The music world basically revolved around them and what they were doing from 1964 to 1970. I was lucky enough to see that show and get on the ride. Not everything was great but a lot of what they did were "firsts". What we have now does not exist without them. And may I add they were no slouches when it came to their instruments.
Someone said The Beatles saved music from being boring. So true so true.
Nonsense.
That quote fits the velvet underground better 😁
@@SeptemberChild1835 You look at the landscape before and after the Beatles.
beatles are not rock.. next!!
Saved Rock and Roll too. With very innocent lyrics like She loves You, PS, I love you, I want to hold your hand.
PS
But overrated too. Come on.
Surprised not to see The Rolling Stones mentioned. 50 years passed their sell by date. At least the Beatles know when to stop. I'd proffer the theory that almost no band has a shelf life of more than 10 years quality output.
true. I keep saying this to Tull fans.
*past....your welcome,👍🏽
I'd say most great bands have a 5-6 album run followed by a decline, either rapid or gradual. For the Stones, I'd say it was the Mick Taylor era, and not all of those were masterpieces.
What about bands whose peak quality didn’t start until well into their careers? For example, the Flaming Lips have one of my favorite three album runs, and the first of those albums was released 13 years after their debut.
It's about being overrated though. I suspect the Stones are underrated really. Written off as old granddads for decades, but still more Rock'n'Roll than anything from the last 25 years at least.
I'd suggest Queen for the overrated list.
When someone tells me they don’t like the Beatles or think they’re over rated, I immediately know that the reason is simply because they’ve never bothered to listen to them.
I am a big fan of the Beatles. The Beatles were truly great and influential, but they are also overrated. For me, The Lads hit their zenith with Revolver. The later albums were not nearly as important and good. In an interview, John Lennon said that the last four Beatles albums weren’t necessary at all, and all four members had better solo albums, compared to the last four Beatles albums. Lennon particularly disliked The White Album. He also said the Abby Road medley was lazy and rubbish. Great band, but overrated.
I don't hate them and appreciate their contributions but I just do not like their music. I like While My Guitar Gently Weeps. But could just be the Clapton solo.
Eleanor Rigby. Thats it. The rest is crap.
@@SeptemberChild1835, interesting coming from Lennon, who released some Godawful albums. One could make a single album of top songs from all four of their members' first albums, and it wouldn't touch anything the Beatles made collectively after Revolver. Given that John and Paul were the songwriters of 80% or more of the albums, which ones from McCartney and Plastic Ono Band (I won't bother mentioning Two Virgins) would fill an album? George would have two great songs from All Things Must Pass, Ringo has nothing from Beaucoups of Blues, Paul has very little solid material from his debut, which leaves John with...what? Mother, God and Working Class Hero? Even Let It Be and Magical Mystery Tour was stronger. Indeed, make a double album from them, with appropriate contributions, and while much stronger than the mythical single album, it wouldn't compare to Sergeant Pepper, The White Album or Abbey Road...
I've listened to all of their albums and I think they are overrated. It is okay to criticise something, particularly something that is by its very nature subjective.
Ah, youth. These bands are only overrated for those who weren’t around when their influence became felt in music. It’s only “overrated” now because you grew up knowing about them, and music has continued to move in new and different directions.
But the fact that we still talk about them and listen to their music today tells you something: It was influential then, is influential now…and is damn good music.
Music has continued to move in new and different directions because bands, especially the Beatles, laid down the original format, to so many musical genres. Saying they are overrated shows, they just don't get it.
Technically I was around when Led Zeppelin were active, but they were not played on the radio, no-one I knew had even heard of them and they definitely wouldn't ever have toured anywhere within reach. So I only discovered them long after they'd broken up when I was reading a book on British music history. Once I managed to track down some of their albums I was blown away and I'm no less impressed with them now three decades later.
@@loganmedia4401 Weren't played on the radio and no one you knew had heard of them? When/where was this? In the US they were a staple on FM radio and were selling out stadiums only a few years after their first album.
Taylor Swift enough said?
Not really a 'band'.
But I agree.
It would have been good if those slagging off Rush, Floyd etc told us what they thought were great bands. I suspect it would give us a good laugh.
New Kids on the Block.
@@MultiCappie 🤣🤣
I hate Rush.
I LOVE the Who.🏆
Is that clear enough for you?
@@GaryIrving-x5o You really do have issues, don't you?
@@GaryIrving-x5o Rush and The Who are my favorite bands ever. lol. Just saying.
This is such a silly concept. I couldn’t even make it through a third of the list. It’s really just subjective nonsense. And the term overrated is so generalized as to be meaningless. Just another stupid top 10 list. No thanks.
Coldplay, Radiohead, Muse, Joy Division, Rolling Stones.
Atom Heart Mother an Meddle are the underlying foundations paving their way for DSOTM-that two year period is of a major significance-an Obscured By Clouds should not be overlooked either
Guid on you Baz!!
What a wonderful, intelligent and informatative blog. It's refreshing to hear someone speak so eloquently about music. Not patronising, condescending or rude.
I agree totally with you about certain bands.
I have tried to 'like' The Grateful Dead but have found it impossible. Maybe their shambolic acid drenched hippy 'free form' music just doesn't connect to music lovers in the UK.
The best thing about them is probably their album covers/t-shirts. The wearing of them in the UK would display a degree of irony...much like Johnny Rotten wearing a Pink Floyd t-shirt did at the time.
Foo Fighters more relevant than Nirvana?
FF is only relevant because it is all that is left of Nirvana. And because Dave Grohl loves getting in front of a camera.
Yeah nah. Foo Fighters are pretty much rubbish in my opinion, but can't blame Dave Grohl for doing what he did post Nirvana
Exactly. Unpopular opinion, but Dave Grohl isn't funny or cool, he's cringe.
I will take Foo Fighters over Nirvana any day. Just my IMO
@@rodbelding9523I think that opinion might be gaining traction. Grohl, has become the voice and face of ‘dad rock’ and just overexposes himself to the point of being annoying.
Grohl is kind of annoying, but, in my opinion, as a songwriter, he's infinitely more talented than Cobain was.
Albums like "Surfs Up" and "Holland" have always made me think The Beach Boys are underrated.
The Beatles aren't overrated because they are the most influential band of all time.
Not a lot of people gave the early 70s albums a chance. These 2 albums are awesome. But the album before Surf's Up, Sunflower is a masterpiece. Their second best album behind Pet Sounds obviously. A perfect 10/10.
Must defend the Beach Boys. As well as Surf's Up and Holland, Sunflower (1970) is an excellent album, and 20/20 (1968) also with Breakaway, I Can Here Music and Do it Again' with its Rolling Stones guitar break. And a lot of this was done at the time without Brian Wilson, with Carl, Dennis and Mike Love more than impressive.
Man, if I were to list band I thought were overrated, the top three would have to be U2, R.E.M., and Guns N Roses.
and here I thought everyone had forgotten about REM
Don't most people hate u2?
Valvid, but Bon Jovi easily tops the most overrated easily. I keep up with modern music as well and the second place spot goes to Asking Alexandria .
A lot of 70s glam was far more influential than Led Zeppelin. An inconvenient fact that generally is swept under the rug. If you look at a lot of music in the 70s, 80s and 90s, a lot of it was rehashing 70s glam.
Nothing about glam rock is 'swept under the rug' - except maybe for some revelations about Gary Glitter having a penchant for the young ones. The music of the 80s that sounded most like 'glam' was the 'hair metal' genre - i.e. Def Leppard, Poison, Motley Crue, Bon Jovi. But the more mainstream artists - think U2, Prince, Springsteen, Madonna, Tears for Fears, Nirvana - had far less 'glam' influence in their music.
@@wylierichardson-tu6zs Nirvana were influenced by 70s glam and even covered some songs of that ilk. With that said, Nirvanas music was garbage. So yes the statement that 70s glam and its influence is downplayed is true.
@@spencerwilliams461 Nirvana was actually one of the better bands of the 90s. I recall them doing a cover of Bowie's The Man Who Sold the World, but that alone doesnt make them a 'glam-influenced' band per se. Quiet Riot did two covers of well-known Slade songs, but they (Quiet Riot) were clearly more 'metal' than 'glam'. Pearl Jam - the other big ''grunge' band of the 90s - worshipped The Who and Neil Young, neither of whom could be classified as 'glam'.
@@wylierichardson-tu6zs Im not telling you what to like. Nirvana were influenced by the 70s glam of England and 70s American Glam. Though most 70s American Glam were ripping off The Nice, Bowie, Mott The Hopple, The Beatles and Slade. The Beatles aren't seen as 70s Glam but they had a profound influence on it. Rolling Stones too. Obvious a lot of that also goes back to American Rock n Roll as a direct influence... Pearl Jam weren't really Grunge, they were more of a faux Springsteen type of outfit.
I’m really sick and tired of people saying one band is better than another. I don’t really care what anyone thinks about the Beatles or any other band. Not everyone is going to like everything. I grew up listening to my brother saying the Stones were much better than the Beatles. That was his opinion. If it was left up to the Stones, no other British band would have made it here, because at the time, they were a cover band, and basically a bar band. Whether you like it or not, the Beatles were trailblazers, and they brought rock and roll music to maturity. In their era, they inspired others to push the musical envelope, making other bands try to top them. Unlike most of the bands from the ‘70s on, they were not satisfied repeating the same formula over and over just to sell records. If you don’t like them, fine. Everyone has different tastes. But overrated, NO.
Only just started watching and jolted into a comment due to Nirvana being at 9. If anything, they are under-rated by the muso snobs who didn't give Nevermind anything other than lukewarm reviews, yet which became the biggest album on the planet for a good five years. It's hard for those brought up on "traditional" hard rock to understand the blood curdling rage us (then) young men felt at the time, that Kurt Cobain filled in the late 80's and early 90's with his brand of melody grunge pop filled lyric and slow fast slow thunderclap noise of wonderfully joyous arrangements and yet awfully dark.... 'Polly' ; 'Something in the way', through to "In bloom" 'et all - that was also radio friendly. Plus the dude was a good looking lad that coulda had any lady he wanted, but ended up with The Hole lady...we know how that all turned out before he joined the 27 club. Nirvana's influence is still felt today, especially by any bands that want to try to become the antidote to this current Taylor Swift era of toilet paper music - i.e, yes sh - it.
I was always more of a Soundgarden fan. I, in my opinion, think they are a better band. I think Nirvana are a bit overrated. But they are not underrated. About the reviews? Ever heard of Robert Christgau? Well he is known as the "The Dean of American Rock Critics," a nickname which he gave to himself actually 🙄. He gave Nevermind an A. He gave Superunkown an A-. But his reviews on certain genres are the most biased opinions in music. He constantly puts down heavy metal and prog. Loves almost anything punk or rap. He gave a record an A without really listening to it. What is great now is you can now listen to albums before you buy them. However, I do respect your opinion.
Now about Taylor Swift. I think she is very talented musician and business woman. However, I find her song writing to be extremely childish, boring and uninspiring. She writes songs about love, people who have done her wrong and ex's. She calls that karma, I call it pettiness and uninspiring. Blues and country music have been singing and writing songs about how that no good man/woman broke their heart. There is no growth. I sure do miss good music.
Oh, got to go. Wrote something disparagingly about Taylor Swift and there are Swifties at my door with fire and pitchforks.
Cheers 😅
@@dohanddonuts5716 "Blues and country music have been singing and writing songs about how that no good man/woman broke their heart. There is no growth."
I am no fan whatsoever of country music (bar Steve Earle), but you do the blues a huge injustice, because there is huge variety topics in the Blues, with everything from your list through tales of Gangsters (Willie The Wimp), Insects (Dragonfly) and a long list of etceteras. In fact the whole panoply of rock rests on the granite of Blues.
@@davidcolin6519 Woe. I think you are not understanding what I meant. I just saying that blues and country (which I'm not a fan of) have been writing about heartache for along time before she started. Taylor's music has no growth. I'm also quite aware the influences of both country and the blues made what rock and roll today. I grew up listening to it with my parents. Taylor's music isn't written for us. We are not her demographic. Where is Beavis and Butthead to say, "This sucks. Change It."
Smashing pumpkins i am one is way better than any nirvana song.
@@paulcollins5586 repeat after me "This is only my opinion".
My opinion is that you're wrong, and that I find that the music produced by the Smashing Pumpkins is emjminently forgettable. But that is MY opinion, and I would be surprised, and disappointed if everybody agreed.
Kiss .... I have no idea why anyone likes them , they are a cliche band and average at best , but then again I dont believe the media bullshit
You don't need "good music" when you've a stage show like Kiss. Breathing fire + platform boots = automatically great band!
@@mantislake4141 shit music requires a good show .. simple
Kiss were always a complete bucket of rancid shite.
The Beatles is the most underrated band ever!
You're absolutely right!
Rock'n Roll Hall Of Fame: The Beatles, Beach Boys, Grateful Dead, Led Zeppelin, Nirvana, Rush, Pink Floyd...could the hall of fame be a hall of overrated, or dear me, a hall of crap ?
Hall of Crap ! That’s hilarious 😅
@@Luciddreamer007 It's the alternative like the Golden Raspberry Awards. 'Welcome my Son...to the hall of crap'.
@@garyizzard839 it’s kinda smelly in The Hall of Crap! 💩
Corporate Hall
This is a list of bands some people don’t like instead of overrated
People who call the Beach Boys overrated probably have never listened to anything past Pet Sounds. Like you said, Surfs Up, Sunflower, Holland and even Wild Honey are amazing. I do agree though about their 80's output.
I can understand the point of view that *as a band* The Beach Boys are overrated because during their peak years, they hardly ever played on their own records. Most of the playing was done by The Wrecking Crew.
But is the *music* that Brian Wilson wrote overrated? Hell no! It surpasses the Beatles in some ways, and Paul McCartney himself would admit as much.
Ive always thought of those post pet sounds albums as frustratingly patchy as the songwriting lacked an overall direction due to Brian checking out somewhat but if you put the best 12-13 tracks together from those albums its very very good indeed
@@AbbeyRoadkill1 I hate the beach boys they sound like a bunch of howling cats.
@@AbbeyRoadkill1good point with the playing their own instruments part. But I still think they gave us awesome music. I used to write them off (even though I'm a huge 60s fan) but now I love them! Top 20 band of all time. They're only at 20 because I love 19 more bands ahead of them. I'm a huge fan of those bands too. If you ask me what I like, I'd let you know what bands I love. Great band and not overrated.
Dream Theater is my favorite band. It’s hard to call them overrated. It’s rare to see such melody combined with crazy musical structures. I listened to a lot of prog metal, but I haven’t found anything better yet. There are a lot of worthy bands, but I haven’t heard anything like them.
I can’t handle the singer except for “Pull Me Under”.
@@simpleman5688Once upon a time, I also couldn’t accept LaBrie’s vocals. But over time, I realized that he was well suited for DT. It’s a pity that now he’s too much of a substitute. He can’t handle the material well live.
Dream Theatre is overrated.
@@tdrvknstin, yes. I think the same about Geddy Lee's vocals with Rush. Horrible, but I cannot imagine anyone else singing them. The overrated aspect of Rush to me is the adulation poured onto them about their virtuosity, as though no other band could touch them. While very talented, they are no more talented than many other rock or jazz fusion bands, including Dream Theater. When one thinks about Cream, The Jimi Hendrix Experience, Emerson, Lake and Palmer, Yes, Zeppelin, or any number of bands, Rush is considered another talented band. Let's not even mention Mahavishnu Orchestra...
@@robertglisson6319 Geddy's singing improved vastly after Hemispheres. He was great until Father Time took his voice. Dream Theatre can't write great songs. Sure, they have one here and there, but Rush did it for a long time and were more consistent. This is what sets apart Rush from the rest of the bands mentioned---their longevity. And don't talk to me about Yes because they constantly had a revolving door of musicians. Rush's last album was one of their best. Can you say the same about Led Zep or the Stones?
I’ve never understood the whole Grateful Dead thing. I am fully across all forms of classic rock being 62 years old and a dedicated music lover. I’d struggle to name a single song
I'm right there with you. Truckin' is the only song of theirs I can think of, and I had to Google to make sure it was them.
Queen, no question. Partly generated by Freddie's tragic death, also the relentless TV documentaries, and the weird mythologising of the Live Aid performance. I read recently in The Times that this was "the greatest ever live concert". Seriously? Greatest ever? They were a decent band but that's about it, imho.
I´m really big Queen fan, but I have to agree with you.
The problem with Queen is, that most people people who have a (positive or negative) opinion of the band, know exactly just the songs from the first Greatest Hits or the usual handful of songs that are played on the radio, but they think they've totally figured out that band. ^^
i agree. i live in spain and its amazing how many people regard queen as the best band ever. maybe they had 3 or 4 decent songs. who could think radio ga ga is anything but awful?
@@mori1bund, truer words never spoken. I wonder if any band had as many great songs that never made the airwaves as Queen, while having so many rather mediocre songs selected as hits? I could listen to the REST of Night At The Opera without EVER playing Bohemian Rhapsody, but that is the song everyone hears. News Of The World is filled with great music, but all most hear are We Will Rock You/We Are The Champions. I also think that the Mystique of Mercury overshadowed the band. The movie was basically a biopic of Freddie, whose personality was really over the top, the Jim Morrison of his day without the self-destruction.
Queen were a great band, wall to wall talent. I wouldn't put them in the top 5 all time or anything. But according to Wiki they're one of only seven acts to sell more than 250 million records, which is pretty impressive. The others are the Beatles, Elvis, MJ, Elton, Madonna, and Zep.
Blackmore said stuff that was taken as deliberate when he was just saying it for the sake of it. As with Townshend, he once stated that since Clapton only used a plectrum instead of plectrum and a picking finger it meant he couldn't play guitar 😁 not to be taken too seriously!
@gab99 Anybody who knows Blackmore knows that you don't take what he says seriously. He never did.
@@BunnEFartzI don’t take what he plays seriously either.
I'm not a miserable bastard! I'm the exact opposite of miserable. Outside of UA-cam and its endless stream of panty wetting cheerleaders, The Beatles should be nowhere near this list. UA-cam oversaturation is at the heart of their inclusion here, but it should not be used as a evidence against them.
No, the Beatles are overrated.
Led Zeppelin may have plagiarised/nicked some songs, but with their vast body of brilliant work they still created more than enough songs of their own to practically triple the output of many of their contemporaries.
Anyone who doesn’t like The Beatles has absolutely zero to say to me about music taste, opinion, and commentary. The Beatles are absolutely impossible to overrate.
I agree
To me … people who don’t like the Beatles is kind of like not liking water or food or air !
At the end of the day, all music is subjective. It's kind of weird to think that everyone should like a certain artist, even if it's The Beatles
“There’s The Beatles, and then there’s everyone else.” (Tom Petty)
I and many I know including family, don't own a single Beatles record!
God Only Knows is The Beach Boys' greatest song and one of the greatest songs of all time.
Candy floss and bubblegum together can only be tolerated once.
@@QuoPaperPlane who is that by?
Sigh. The Beatles are hands down the most influential band in rock history, and their chart success speaks for itself. You can't say they're overrated unless you're just being contrarian. I have time for all the others on the list, although Rush fans will be mad since they all identify as underrated band lovers.
Agreed. Some people think it's edgy to bag on the Beatles. You don't have to like them, but you can't deny their importance.
Don't like the Beatles? That's fine, but I bet the members of your favorite bands do.
@@modernrelic7092 I'm not sure I've ever heard a famous musician disrespect the Beatles. When you're admired by everyone from ABBA to Ozzy, you've done well
Influential doesn't translate to good.
@@plymouth491 except to all the bands they influenced it does translate to good, so go ahead and disagree with every band who was profoundly influenced by the Beatles so that you get to be right
@@plymouth491 You're like a pizza cutter. All edge and no point.
Aerosmith, Metalica,Bon Jovi and Guns & Roses are just a few I would add.
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Perfect list. Early Aerosmith and Metallica were interesting for a few albums, last 90% of their career absolutely mediocre and forgettable. Guns and roses have a great debut album they have lived off for almost 40 years. Bon Jovi are not even worth talking about.
@@colgrey438 Nobody is using the mediocre and forgettable stuff to prop them up. I personally don't hold bad albums against a band if they have enough good stuff to make me a fan. Also Guns and Roses' Use Your Illusion albums were huge. Their career was short but they accomplished more with a few albums than many bands with long careers. I won't mention Jovi they aren't worth it 😉
I've always had a hard time with the term ''overrated'', it's people who don't like a band that's popular and that piss them off. It's not because you don't like a band that he's overrated. We see that alot with prog snobs in particular.
The core of it is jealousy- resentment of the fact that some band you don't like is more famous/celebrated than a band you worship.
I enjoy these videos immensely, having said that lists of favorite bands, bands I hate, you hate, underrated, or overrated is very subjective, one thing I cannot stand is people who are extremely narrow minded in their musical tastes and belittle others if they enjoy bands or artists they do not enjoy themselves, I also find as I have grown older I have expanded my own musical palette and come to appreciate bands I would not have given a passing thought to when I was younger which proves that a love of music is something that lasts a lifetime and changes as much as we do on our journey through life.
A little ironic that, in Primus' Year of the Parrot, we get the lyric,
"Take a Zeppelin riff
And you alter it a bit
And make lots of money
It's called plagiarism."
I love Zeppelin, but they could never get away with that stuff now.
Whether or not you care for The Beatles (they never moved me the way Yes, Rush, old Genesis, or even Iron Maiden do) there's "before the Beatles" and "after the Beatles" in non-classical music. Especially their later work was ground-breaking in so many ways.
As someone who was in my early 20s when Oasis broke through, I totally didn't get the hype around them - I didn't get it at the time and nothing's changed since. Sure, they have some decent songs, even some classic songs, but they're not - and never were in my opinion - a particularly great band. A lot of the bands mentioned here have stood the test of time, and will continue to do so - in fifty years people will still know who Floyd and Zep and The Beatles are, no question about it. But my prediction is that Oasis won't endure in the same way, and that over time they'll become increasingly forgotten.
What absolute rubbish
Who were overrated more, Blur or Oasis? Oasis were a good pop band with plenty of good songs, which is fine, but can't see why anyone would rate them for more than that.
......Both.....!!!
As players they were terrible. Just a bunch of guys, with musicianship far under minimum standard, plodding along. When the Gallagher’s decided to fire their rhythm section, the new guys had the unenviable task of just mimicking the more terrible older musicians. And not causing a fight. So as not to show up the fact neither Noel or Liam could really play anything.
yeah that doesn't make them overrated does it because clearly a lot of people loved them and they reignited the fire into what had become a very stale very boring music scene in the early 90s, they didn't need to artsy or exceptional musicians they just said what we all needed to hear the attitude we all wanted and many bands today will count Oasis as a major influence so no they're not going away easily
It was the Beatles that convinced the members of this jug band called "Mother Mcree's Uptown Jug Champians" to plug in and rebrand themselves as the "Warlocs" then re rebrand themselves as "The Grateful Dead"
i love 'emotional denouement' to RUSH! i think that's exactly why i love them, & i'm the one who hates anything 'agit-pop' or deconstructivist-seeming. i don't like long instrumental solos, or that 'magician singer songwriter' vibe either but what can i say, their music's absolutely TONAL, they're able to pull it off . . .
What a great list and the reasononing is dead on.
I think the problem with most of these bands, is that they started believing their own press!
They mostly have 'some' great songs or even albums. But to faun over these people for getting out of bed and gracing us with their presence seems to go too far. And for that reason, I own a ton of music from most if these bands, (my MP3 and MP4 list is almost 60 hours long) but damned few FULL albums from any of them.
I loved this video. Keep at it.
Pet Sounds is very good music weighed down by mopey puerile lyrics. I'll make an exception for God Only Knows, which is transcendently beautiful, and for Sloop John B., which is a folk song tarted up.
It never ceases to amaze me ,that just because someone does not like an Album/group/singer they say there overrated . Some of the names on this list have sold millions of albums wide world ,so how can they be overrated when so many people like their records.Its an over used term which means nothing, if you like or don't like an Album/group/singer it does not mean they are over or under rated, its a nonsense saying. Thank you ,you made good comments to the list
Saying The Beatles are overrated is the equivalent of saying music is overrated.
@@johneeeemarry34I wanna hold your hand is just one great song out of all the other songs they wrote.. no bad songs on every album
True
I agree with you about Floyd. I always thought the Eagles grossly overrated. Joe Walsh joining them was a big disappointed. Sleepy Joe just made them more boring. Fleetwood Mac was brilliant from their first records up thru Bare Trees. The California-based Mac from 1975 on is occasionally pleasant- but NOT brilliant.
Walsh's solo records are far better than the Eagles' stuff.
Grateful Dead? Wake of the Flood and Workingman’s Dead and Skeletons albums? And all the hits. Wow, did not see that one coming
I know! What’s with the tee?
People who view the Dead as nothing more than psychedelic noodling and drugs never listened to the Dead.
Great vid, please do a "10 Rush Songs I Don't Want to Hear Again". My list (in no particular order):
- Time Stand Still
- Dog Years
- Lakeside Park
- Passage to Bangkok
- Spirit of the Radio
- Limelight
- Vital Signs
- Working Man
- Mission
- The Garden
Very nice job on this my friend. People voting The Beatles is pure idiocy. The invented pop, psychedelic and hard rock music. I agree that I have a niggling feeling that Pink Floyd and Led Zeppelin are a bit overrated in comparison to what else was happening in their salad days. I will defend Nirvana to an extent in that our poor lost soul Kurt was not the most musically gifted but his voice had an emotional/fragile tenor that really spoke to a generation that really sparked an awareness of vunerability that no one else in mainstream rock music did. I think that the current "woke" culture as well as the impending bed-wetting nu metal culture owes a lot to him. He was the CCR/John Fogerty of his generation.
If you're a musician (hobbyist, amateur, or pro)- Ignore this video completely.
I'm a musician, with qualifications in music, and I agree with most of his opinions.
People who don't really understand music, just think the bands who sell the most must be the best.
In the same way a 12 year old argues that McDonalds is better than a posh restaurant.
Thanks for the list. I would remove Oasis and throw Steely Dan on it
Fair enough!
Utterly insane.
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Ah, the best thing about music; I can like what I like and not care what others think. I agree on some points, disagree on others and the best part is that we are still discussing, sharing and listening to some of the best music ever created in our lifetimes. Brilliant!
Only agree with Dream Theater being overrated, for the reasons given. Every other band is either properly rated or underrated.
I think I agree with this comment. I don't particularly like Oasis, but I also don't think they are rated highly by people outside the U.K., so I wouldn't bother to put them on a list of the most overrated.
Enjoyed your video, thank you.. people forgot to list Foo Fighters, besides 2 decent first albums, a lot of safe, middle of the road, dull ones.. People think everything's overrated if you see this list.
I can't understand why Radiohead isn't on this list. They are absolutely terrible and yet get massive amounts of critical acclaim for the meandering tuneless crap theyve spewed out for 30 years now
😅you are seriously full of baloney. Radiohead are one of the best bands in history. so are Coldplay.
@klausrain111 oh puuuuuhlease. I heard a Radiohead album one time years ago and thought there was something wrong with my stereo equipment.
On The Beach Boys, I’m with Brian Wilson in terms of their best song, Barry. “Darlin’ “ is just sublime. Better than “Good Vibrations” and “God Only Knows”. Great vid as usual.
i really like the Beach Boys output during the 1970s, amongst the wack throwaway fillers there are some great elegiac pieces, and 'Lady Lynda' from 1979 was their last great highpoint imo.
I have to agree about LL even though it's pretty cheesy. Love You is another favourite of mine but it is forever getting slagged off as the BBs worst album. When I listen to music I don't always need it to be a masterpiece.
Anyone that claims that Elvis or The Beatles are overrated and have not bothered listening to the records and/or have no sense of historical perspective. Without them, your favorite band would probably not exist.
I've found if someone says the Beatles are overrated and you ask them what music they like it's usually something like Black Metal 🤔
I immediately think of high school kids streaming sterile, Auto-Tuned dreck.
agree with most of that, Pink Floyd the Syd Barrett days they was magnificent, after Syd they suffered a bit from head up their arses syndrome in a big way, as for Blackmores take on Pete Townshend, Petes guitar work is limited to suit his songwriting also playing with Keith Moon and John Entwistle restricted him, however since Keith and John passed Pete Townshends guitar work has flourished given his new found freedom to express himself more live on stage......big Who fan here, also dont rate Blackmores bash at Folk, but he could never compete with the great Richard Thompson, Fairport Convention, Steeleye Span etc etc.....a lot of the Beatles stuff was Tosh, but a lot of their stuff was truly wonderful....Love Music Love Life, could say that about Beer as well...haha.
...great and highly entertaining review, Barry...of course lists of the very best, overrated, underrated and worst bands... are overall: overrated! 😎 But when you are there for the fun of it, then the 'overrated-ness' becomes possibly even 'underrated-ness' (still following me?)
I can live with all kinds of judgement about any band... every single one of this low-10 has many fans, who rate them as the best band, ever gracing this planet...
...but: the Beatles, and I'm very (not) sorry, are indeed the wonder, that they are looked at... they had a few 'misses', but you can almost count those with your fingers... as much as this provokes riots among the rebellious, I put it down to 'not knowing enough about them' to be able to comprehend, what they've done... ⭐🔥💖
This is great. I love your deadpan delivery, even-handedness and range of knowledge. Good catch on the Bert Jansch episode, but see also Davey Graham (White Summer and Over the Hills both cop his version of She Moved through the fair). The Dead weren't particularly ill-disciplined when they played with Bob Bylan, by the way. It's only with the VE that I disagree with any of the choices here. If nothing else, it gave us Lou Reed. Do you really think the Beatles were that good. Borrowed from Bob Dylan? Well, yes, but more. By the time Sgt Pepper came out Bob had already released Bringing it all back home, Highway 61 revisited and Blonde on Blonde (first rock double album - beats Zappa's double by a week and Sgt Pepper by just under a year (Highway 61 kills it by about 18 months)!). So whos driving the album culture now? Obviously you do credit Dylan, but don't dismiss this as a Dylan Fan Rant. I should point out that even very good bands can be over-rated, and some of the ones on your list (not Nirvana, not Oasis, by the way) are very good, but still over-rated. Cheers.
This is embarrassing. Who voted for these? A 13 year old BTS fan?
It seems there is no historical understanding of the Evolution of 'Rock' bands .... it did not start in 1996 ....
You terrified me with the opening comment about Townshend. Mercifully, the Who (greatest live act in rock) were not on the list. That said, the Beatles? Really? I agree with Velvet Underground, Pink Floyd, Grateful Dead and some others being on the list. I don't get the enthusiasm for them.
haha the Who definitely overrated as a live act. Townshend being a nonstop spaz isn't live greatness
I must have missed something. I have a lot of live Who and a lot of live Dead. The Who cannot touch the Dead when it comes to playing live. Yes, some of the Who's music is definitely good when played live, but the Who did not improvise like the Dead did. Maybe you just don't know the Dead, but that does not make them overrated.
@@CO-PE-123 Different strokes for different folks. My comment was spawned by the hint that someone might think the Who is overrated. More egregious is the actual placement of Zep and the Beatles on that list. Again, just my opinion.
Love your channel! For future reference, Jansch is pronounced with a hard J. Found that out recently from the man himself (via the medium of documentary on youtube)
I find it's less confrontational to call them successful/influential bands that I never personally 'got' .
But where would the fun be in that! 😊
I will honestly say that I never got into the Beatles and couldn't understand the fuss but then watched the recent documentary on the Sgnt Pepper Album - mind blown! Perhaps The Beatles now lay claim to one of the most underated bands of all time by those not around at the time??
Like Caitlin Moran said:
"The Beatles is a grid from which I understand everything ... the way you can progress as an artist or human, I understand it throught the first you'll be in Hamburg and do your ten thousand hours, (---) and then you'll go through you know your punky urgent phase, then you'll go through your imperial phase, then you go through your experimental phase, then it all go heroin bad".
Nonsense. The Beatles are overrated.
I once got into an argument with Caitlin Moran on twitter. Horrendous woman. Just thought I'd put that out there.
@@Man-From-Another-Place Thank you for mentioning that. I like the subject "meeting famous people in reality". 👍
@@steakmediumrare To be fair, it was years ago, and I don't even remember what it was about. She might be OK.
Much of this says more about the people who voted than it does about the bands themselves. Some people don't have the emotional or mental acuity to appreciate the music in its time. It is the old trope about I don't know about art but I know what I like.
I never realized just how genius The Beatles were until I watched the movie YESTERDAY a few years ago.
Playing The Beatles Rock Band made me realise their genius - especially Ringo!
Saying Rush are overrated because they have no soul is just that one person’s opinion, a preference which doesn’t make them overrated. I’ve always based overrated artists on their technique/skill or lack of. Factors like Influence I’ve never taken into account because it’s too loose a term, it’s a preference again as every band has influence to a certain degree.
The older I get, the less impressed I am by technical skill and the more impressed I am by well-crafted songs that leave a lasting emotional impact.
@@AbbeyRoadkill1Rush have both of them.
Beatles will always be #1 ! Are there some songs I don’t like? Heck yeahhhhh Maxwell’s Silver Hammer! Hate hate hate that song!
That one gets way too much hate. I hate Bungalow Bill way more.
@@canalesworks1247 just as bad lol , McCarthy wrote some beautiful songs, I have no idea what he was thinking with these two. Could be worse though…..Like if he asked Yoko to guest sing on one of his songs! 💀💀💀 God knows what Lennon was thinking or taking
I wonder if you would have hated Maxwells Silver Hammer if it was on Pepper or the White Album? Neither their greatest or worst song, but just feels out of place on Abbey Road.
@@glumonion1454 I’m trying give a honest answer I’ll say YES I wouldn’t like it no matter what album and since I’m being honest I’m not a fan of I’m A Walrus from MMT
@@cherriberri7161 yeah , it’s all down to taste, Maxwells Hammer is a bit cheesy and I don’t like Come together. Love Walrus though
I was wondering if you suggest the top ten rock bands based on musical quality. Every time I ask someone the best rock bands from a musical perspective I don't get any clear answer. Usually I hear that the Beatles were commercially successful, however from a musical perspective they are not so great. Thank you.
rock is not about musical quality but about impact, energy.
Songwriting: the energy & mood that can be created.
Roger Daltrey once said that rock 'n' roll was for f**king, and rock was for fighting.
Bruce Springsteen.
I don't agree with at least half that list. I think people who were not old enough to listen to these bands when they were releasing albums or were maybe too old to understand their influence on contemporary music when they came out would say they are overrated. Led Zeppelin was a huge influence. Yes, they stole other people's music like the Rolling Stones seemed to do in the early days.
To me, some of the most overrated bands are Kiss and Guns n Roses. They were neither good nor unique but have a heavy following from mostly young boys at the time who grew up thinking they were the best bands in the world.
Two artists I find to be overrated because of the bands they used to be in are Alice Cooper and Ozzy Osborne. Neither one is anywhere as good asbthe bands they left. I also think Peter Gabriel's solo career produced inferior music to Genesis. To me, it was a letdown.
There are a lot of bands and musicians releasing music these days who are overrated because of how many hits they get from streaming sources. Musical contestant shows and streaming have produced a lot of bland, similar sounding artists who seem to be very popular now.
By the way, how is the Grateful Dead overrated. You either like them or you don't. They did not have a lot of hit songs. People who follow them mostly like their live music, so if you didn't follow them, you would have no idea what the band is all about. Lots of people might say the Allman Brothers were a great jam band, but I would argue that the Dead were better.
Sadly, most people who would say Pink Floyd is overrated probably haven't listened to their entire catalog. They made a lot of music, and it isn't just The Wall and Dark Side of the Moon.
People are entitled to their opinions, but I am surprised by the bands that were called out on this list and by the ones that are missing.
Most bands and musicians name check Led Zeppelin because they were a big industry plant at the time. There music was poor, even with plagiarisms and most of what they were doing was done better by other bands who don't get enough credit. Every music nerd and dullard musician name checks them because they know it will get them talked about if they pretend to like them. Plenty of people hated that band for not being very good and having poor songwriting.
It's funny how Guns and Roses, or Queen, wasn't here but Led Zeppelin, Rush, The Beach Boys, Pink Floyd and The Beatles were. As a few mentioned below, it's again one of those "these guys are popular so I hate them" lists. Every one of these bands were highly influential, except for maybe Oasis. You can't be overrated when you've influenced a whole generation of musicians, whether a person likes them or not.
How is Aerosmith not on this list? Every single song they released from 1980 on is the same track with different lyrics.
Most online criticism of Nirvana often comes across as elitist and snobbish.
What Nirvana did was so basic, so derivative and so lacking in depth that you'd think critics would manage to do something better at some point in their lives.
There seems be an attitude among some that music is either as complex as jazz-fusion or prog rock at its most experimental or it's 'mainstream' garbage.
I'm not saying that anyone has to like Nirvana. But I don't think writing hits is a crime especially hits that define an entire generation and epoch. Nor is it a fair to act like just because Kurt Cobain wasn't Tom Scholz or Frank Zappa that his contribution and creativity deserves no respect.
I seem to remember Nirvana drowning in elite critical praise when they were current, so this is a baffling comment to me
Someone else on this thread said that Nirvana is an example of how great songwriting beats great musicianship every time. They're right.
They have not very good songs at all.
Morning Barry. There is lot of over rated videos about at the moment. We all have different ears. There are no over rated bands. We all like different styles and music. My favourite band of all times are Rush. Very very few of my muso friends like them and my Mrs abhors them. She attended one of my favourite gigs and she hated it.
I’ve never rated ELP (I know, sacrilege)! But appreciate how good they were and would never consider them over rated.
I did see the Andy Edwards video and just thought it was pretentious tosh.
Hey ho.
I absolutely agree The Beatles were over rated hugely. When you play instruments yourself, and have qualifications in music production, and really understand music, you can see the truth. The truth is, The Beatles were cheesy, simplistic, basic, rubbish. Their defining moment (Sgt Peppers) was only decent because Pink Floyd were in another room at Abby Road recording Piper At The Gates Of Dawn, and the members of The Beatles took turns sneaking in to listen (copy) what Floyd were doing.
Led Zep absolutely over rated, Page was just a thief who stole all of his best bits from other better musicians.
People love crap though, it's like the musical equivalent of McDonalds and some 12 year old arguing that McDonalds is better than any restaurant because they sell many more meals.
Love this analysis….
Absolutely agree with you, they were in the right place at the right time, that's all. So were the Stones.
Best comment. Totally agree!
The Beatles catalogue of songs is anything but cheesy, simplistic and basic - Paperback Writer/Revolution/Strawberry Fields Forever. The quip about stealing from Pink Floyd is Fortean Times\Nexus ANALysis.
@@Ruda-n4h I looked on your channel, to gauge your intelligence, experience, and how that backed up your opinion.
Mr no content 8 subscribers.
I don't think that adds any credibility to your fanboyism.
There's a lot to unpack from this list and the opinions surrounding it so I'll try to keep it short, and yes, I'm speaking to the man behind the channel and all of you as well.
I look at overrated bands as being in the right place at the right time in terms of the music and more importantly, the commercial viability. Every single one of the bands mentioned had the right music and the right advertising. Oasis would never have survived the Brit Pop era if it weren't for the marketing and their forced rivalry with Blur.
Nirvana came onto the scene when grunge was healthy and growing at the very tail end of the 80's going into the 90's. It can absolutely be said that Alice in Chains is better than Nirvana but the latter was more commercially viable in the end and still is because of Nevermind and Kurt's suicide at 27, thus being immortalized by his fans and put on the "great artists who died at 27" list.
When it comes to the likes of Zeppelin, The Floyd, and the Beatles, the marketing behind them catapulted them into stardom when the time and music was right as well. I tend to joke with people that I'm too much of a Floyd fan to listen to Zeppelin so I simply won't attempt to try and analyze them.
Your opinions of the Floyd very much mirror my own and your analysis of AHM gave me a new appreciation for the album I never considered.
When it comes to The Beatles, loving their music has been a lifelong journey and I can't say it's all good but the right stuff tickles my music bone with glee and gloom. Imagine falling in love with Accross the Universe while simultaneously the woman I loved and her daughter who called me Dad just up and left me. Had to put that song on the backburner and is still there.
As an amateur historian of music, I also cannot stress enough to people the importance of how bands like The Floyd, Beatles and Beach Boys created new techniques for recording and mixing sounds into extraordinary works of art and that modern music could and would never be the same.
Thanks as always for your words of wisdom and maybe try this for a poll: The most overrated bands most people have never heard of. (Until I went to college, I had no idea who the likes of King Crimson, Yes, Genesis, and Gentle Giant were, and punk that wasn't the Ramones)
3:52 anthem of the sun for the win. Totally agree!
Rush was overlooked and dismissed by critics FOR YEARS, and now they're overrated? SMH
Any band that can evolve from 'She Loves You' to 'Tomorrow Never Knows' in 3 years is clearly not overrated.
Some folks confuses overexposed with overrated. Often because those folks feel a need for defining themselves as original individuals, visionary people with an eye for what many others can’t see as brilliant.
Hence such folks despises things that are a bit too popular or widely acknowledged...
The Beatles are surely such a overexposed band. And it’s their own fault. Even after all these years hardly a year goes by without a “new” Beatles release in some form.
That doesn’t make The Beatles a less groundbreaking band though. They were clearly a musical revolution back in their day. And it’s hard to imagine how music would have developed if they hadn’t been there. Hence The Beatles can hardly be defined as overrated.
In my eyes exposion and sales figures has nothing to do with whether a band is overrated or not.
As already alluded to in a few other posts, just because you like something doesn't mean it's genius, and just because you DON'T like something, doesn't mean it's shit or overrated.
Let's also give credit to producers who (as I've heard from some less-than-awesome demos from bands) often times transformed a band's mediocre ideas into amazing finished products.