American Revolution: Cornwallis' Elite Soldiers

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  • @ronaldpoppe3774
    @ronaldpoppe3774 6 місяців тому +29

    My ancestor Colonel Andrew Hampton
    commanded the Rutherford troops at the battle of Kings Mountain to help defeat Major Ferguson. Thanks for sharing. I am enjoying the history of the 33rd regiment that fought so bravely and well in this war. Very best regards Ron

    • @redcoathistory
      @redcoathistory  6 місяців тому +5

      A wonderful family history. Thanks so much for sharing.

  • @10thCompanyCaptain
    @10thCompanyCaptain 6 місяців тому +12

    As a foot guards re-enactor I was about to comment to dispute, then heard what you said about "probably not including the foot guards" and quieted down. Always glad to see Robbie as a guest!

  • @johnmurray1529
    @johnmurray1529 6 місяців тому +22

    Great video! Being raised in South Carolina, revolutionary war history is huge. Been to the fort in Ninety Six, cowpens and made many a trip to Charleston. I now live in North Carolina. We drive through Camden to visit family. They have a beautiful recreation of the houses and battlefield. It's definitely worth a trip.

    • @redcoathistory
      @redcoathistory  6 місяців тому +7

      Thanks a lot...If the channel ever gets big enough then my goal is to come to America and film on the battlefields...

    • @MattCellaneous
      @MattCellaneous 6 місяців тому +3

      @@redcoathistory oh you're well on your way. This is a great channel and we'll see you stateside shortly I'm sure. There were a good 7 or 8 wars in the colonies from 1675 to 1775 that are extremely interesting far too under-researched. The old Anglo and colonial military units of that century are my obsession. I really hope you go in that direction and I hope to see you in America. Break a leg.

    • @theinigosilvastation6232
      @theinigosilvastation6232 5 місяців тому +1

      @@redcoathistory Yeah, I’ve never seen the training or movements of the 33rd Regiment as carefully prolific as they fought.

  • @anselmdanker9519
    @anselmdanker9519 6 місяців тому +12

    Thank you for covering this regiment.
    Their exploits at Camden and Guildford Courthouse are awe inspiring.

  • @orthoff123
    @orthoff123 6 місяців тому +11

    Thank you for your work! Greetings from Germany!

    • @redcoathistory
      @redcoathistory  6 місяців тому

      Many thanks. Are there other battles/campaigns you'd like to see us cover in the future?

  • @ImperatorRomulus
    @ImperatorRomulus 6 місяців тому +6

    Great video.
    I have ancestors on both sides of the RevWar.
    The Redcoats are overdue for some love.

  • @kennedymcgovern5413
    @kennedymcgovern5413 6 місяців тому +7

    I grew up near and went to college IN Greensboro, NC. In my little corner of America, Lord Cornwallis is known for more than just Yorktown. His last major engagement before Yorktown was in what is now Greensboro (actually named for our General who lead our side in the battle, Nathaniel Greene). We had streets named after Cornwallis near the battlefield memorial, and the story of that entire campaign was drummed well into our heads as children.
    **I am talking about Guilford Courthouse here.**

    • @redcoathistory
      @redcoathistory  6 місяців тому +2

      I've been there once and wathced the Drive play - a lovely little place.

  • @filidorable
    @filidorable 6 місяців тому +17

    A big shout out for the Coldstream Guards (2nd Foot Guards), my dad's regiment. The oldest regiment in the Royal Army formed in the Scottish village of Coldstream in the early 1660s by General Monk. Many, many battle honours including the AWI and Waterloo. Pretty elite, huh?

    • @drno4837
      @drno4837 6 місяців тому +3

      their motto is "Nulli Secundus" which means "second to the Grenadier Guards"

    • @longbow3810
      @longbow3810 6 місяців тому +1

      @@drno4837😂

    • @daviddrake3504
      @daviddrake3504 6 місяців тому +1

      Oooh! Second to the Grenadiers? Only on paper! Belts off Boys!

    • @japhfo
      @japhfo 5 місяців тому +2

      Calling the Coldstream Guards "2nd Foot Guards" would not win any friends in the regiment, as I am sure your Dad would have confirmed. They resisted official attempts to impose on them a number that might suggest their being second in seniority to the First Foot Guards; hence the geographical title and their motto _Nulli Secundus_- 'Second To None.'
      The claim to be the oldest regiment in the British army will never be resolved, the nuances of argument -"oldest" "senior" - being too tangled to rehearse here, but the Coldstream claim to be senior to the First Foot Guards turns on whether you count their previous service in the Parliamentary army. The First (Royals) and the Third (Buffs) (now amalgamated) would have made their case for being older than both. The Coldstream Guards today would certainly claim an unbroken line of longevity.
      However, no regiment bears any honorary distinctions for the AWI. The custom as we might understand it had yet to be established, and no awards were made retrospectively; the traditional rationale being that this was a war against "our kith and kin" - which also ended in defeat.

    • @longbow3810
      @longbow3810 5 місяців тому +1

      It was Monck, not Monk. I drove through the village of Merton, Devon today. ( His birthplace.)

  • @ryanziegler1410
    @ryanziegler1410 6 місяців тому +4

    This channel continues to inspire me. Nothing like hearing about some of the greatest hardasses of history to get you ready for the day.

  • @lyndoncmp5751
    @lyndoncmp5751 6 місяців тому +3

    Brilliant, Christian and Robbie. Im really enjoying learning about all this. I can see so much more will be forthcoming. Looking forward to it.
    Cheers.

    • @redcoathistory
      @redcoathistory  6 місяців тому +1

      Thanks mate - got a few more AWI videos in the prep phase but might be a while before I jump back in again at a deep level. Thanks again for the support.

    • @lyndoncmp5751
      @lyndoncmp5751 6 місяців тому

      @@redcoathistory
      No worries Christian. The deep level wade can wait for later. Enjoying these shorter ones for now.
      Cheers.

  • @johno1504
    @johno1504 6 місяців тому +3

    He was one of our greatest officers , even when I was in Army he was mentioned .

  • @brokenbridge6316
    @brokenbridge6316 5 місяців тому +1

    I love Revolutionary War history. And I can certainly appreciate the point of view of both sides of this war.

    • @redcoathistory
      @redcoathistory  5 місяців тому

      Thanks - I have a series coming soon on Loyalist troops.

    • @brokenbridge6316
      @brokenbridge6316 5 місяців тому

      @@redcoathistory---Sounds like something worth listening too. And your welcome.

  • @thatcouncilestatekid1832
    @thatcouncilestatekid1832 6 місяців тому +2

    It is good to learn about other conflicts other than the more mainstream battles. I have never really delved into the war of independence so it’s good to learn 👍🏻

  • @alexanderrichmond5890
    @alexanderrichmond5890 6 місяців тому +2

    American here, I really enjoy your content. Keep up the great work. 👍👍

    • @redcoathistory
      @redcoathistory  6 місяців тому +1

      Many thanks, Sir. Are there other campaigns and conflicts you would like to see me tackle?

    • @alexanderrichmond5890
      @alexanderrichmond5890 6 місяців тому

      @@redcoathistory Definitely more War of 1812 content, but any videos on these subjects are appreciated.

  • @RandomDudeOYT
    @RandomDudeOYT 6 місяців тому +20

    Washington kept the army together, that was the key to winning. Was mostly a terrible tactician, but did pull the rabbit out the hat a few times just enough to keep it going. Understood morale and understood the difficultly of uniting 13 different mini country units into one national force. Furthering proving you don’t even need to win a majority of the battles to win a war.

    • @CelticHound357
      @CelticHound357 6 місяців тому +3

      Washingtons tactics were not the problem. It was getting his subordinates to carry out his orders properly and with urgency. He had to deal with several inflated egos.

    • @ronanchristiana.belleza9270
      @ronanchristiana.belleza9270 6 місяців тому +3

      @@CelticHound357 It's still a miracle he keep the army together

    • @CelticHound357
      @CelticHound357 6 місяців тому

      @@ronanchristiana.belleza9270 A miracle it truly was.

    • @ronanchristiana.belleza9270
      @ronanchristiana.belleza9270 6 місяців тому

      @@CelticHound357 If only his officers as competent as Napoleon's own generals he would have greater chance of winning

    • @CelticHound357
      @CelticHound357 6 місяців тому

      @@ronanchristiana.belleza9270 He had good generals. As I mentioned. He had to deal with some inflated egos. But for the most part, they were good when they weren't smelling their own farts. I'm not sure I'm understanding you correctly. Washington did win.

  • @feltonmclaughlin3529
    @feltonmclaughlin3529 5 місяців тому +1

    Interesting that Cornwallis commanded the 33rd. When it was in India in the early 1800's it was commanded by Arthur Wellesley, 1st Duke of Wellington. It must have been considered very high on the list of desirable Regiments to purchase the command of. Thank you for presenting this it rounds out the history of the family quarrel between us back then.

  • @ajferet
    @ajferet 5 місяців тому

    I was at Yorktown yesterday. In addition to the history there, it is a place of great natural beauty.

  • @welshwarrior5263
    @welshwarrior5263 6 місяців тому +1

    I have never looked into this part of history. Excellent information mate. Thank you. 👍

    • @redcoathistory
      @redcoathistory  6 місяців тому +1

      Glad you enjoyed it mate. Got a few more good videos brewing in the next few weeks including one that has a section on your old regiment - watch this space.

    • @welshwarrior5263
      @welshwarrior5263 6 місяців тому

      @redcoathistory Thanks for the heads up mate. I will keep a watchful eye and look forward to it.

  • @MattCellaneous
    @MattCellaneous 6 місяців тому +2

    I'm not a big horn tooter, But I am very knowledgeable in the American revolution. And I must say this was an absolutely fantastic video. General and concise but still a mostly overall history of the war, while being particular about that regiment. I am going to buy that book. The only engagement he didn't talk about with cow pens where Morgan defeats Tarleton. But I'm not sure if the 33rd was engaged in that or not, so Anyway, great video!.

    • @redcoathistory
      @redcoathistory  6 місяців тому +1

      That's great - really happy that you enjoyed it.

  • @dennispepperack2973
    @dennispepperack2973 4 місяці тому

    Thanks, guys! All the best from Tampa... Nathaniel Greene was a tactical genius, after taking over from Granny Gates.

  • @Ethelred966
    @Ethelred966 6 місяців тому

    Great interview, thanks mate.

  • @MarkWYoung-ky4uc
    @MarkWYoung-ky4uc 5 місяців тому

    I live less than an hour from Guilford Courthouse National Military Park and the battlefield is still mostly wooded today. I love walking around the park and imagining the fighting going on in the woods around me. Another great British unit that fought through most of the war and was at Guilford Courthouse was The 71st Frazier's Highlanders.

    • @LeggieGlasgow
      @LeggieGlasgow 5 місяців тому

      I remember the remains of soldiers from both sides were found and given a magnificent military funeral.I come from Glasgow it was a great gesture from the US military and the people ,much respect for that.

  • @FranciscoPreira
    @FranciscoPreira 6 місяців тому

    Great stuff Chris, thanks for sharing.

  • @MrMaxedout00
    @MrMaxedout00 4 місяці тому +1

    I also love how 78th Highlanders were raised under Lieutenant Colonel Fraser’s from the Jacobite’s who agreed to go fight so they could ware there kilts and carry weapons as they were outlawed . They gained a good reputation

  • @greghoyt4061
    @greghoyt4061 6 місяців тому +1

    I’ve watched a number of your uploads and, as usual, this was great! There’s a certain respect many of us have for many of the British generals and troops of the Revolution.
    If you’re interested in learning about other conflicts from Colonial America prior to the Revolution, I’d suggest reading up on:
    - King Philip’s War (1675-1678)
    - The four French and Indian Wars:
    •King William’s War [Nine Years’ War] (1688-1697)
    •Queen Anne’s War [War of the Spanish Succession] (1702-1713)
    •King George’s War & The War of Jenkins’ Ear [War of the Austrian Succession] (1739-1748)
    •The French and Indian War [Seven Years’ War] (1754-1763)
    - Pontiac’s Rebellion (1763-1766)
    There’s a lot to learn, and a good bit of it is pretty brutal. But it’s also a fascinating period, filled with legendary figures like Robert Rogers, groundbreaking tactics and new approaches to warfare, amphibious assaults, and it will help to explain why the Revolution eventually happened.
    If you take a liking to it and think you’d like to eventually cover some of it, you’d be in the clear since it’s British military history as well.
    Take care man, and I look forward to your future content.

    • @redcoathistory
      @redcoathistory  6 місяців тому

      Thanks so much for taking the time to write such a great comment - so much history and so little time! Hopefully I'll get to some of it eventually.

    • @greghoyt4061
      @greghoyt4061 6 місяців тому

      @@redcoathistory Haha of course, man. Thank you for the reply; that means a lot.
      I’ve found that a number of British people who enjoy history tend to take an interest in Colonial America once they delve into it, since it’s a part of British history that isn’t often taught in school. It’s over a century and a half, so there’s a lot for them to learn. It’s our history, but it’s yours too.
      Well, if I can condense it all down, I’d say look into King Philip’s War; King George’s War and the amphibious assault on Ft. Louisbourg; The French and Indian War; the various ranger units throughout these conflicts and their leaders (Benjamin Church, John Gorham, Robert Rogers, etc).
      If you think you’d like to do something with some of this - great! If not, that’s fine too. Looking forward to the next upload!
      PS I just realized - you’re South African. I thought you were from the UK. I’m usually pretty good with accents, but South African’s more subtle to my ear, and I often mistake it for an English accent. Sorry for the mixup - carry on!

    • @phillipmerritt1428
      @phillipmerritt1428 6 місяців тому

      I enjoyed the wars or battles before the revolutionaries war. But there a lot of American who really whaler, not taking a side.
      I believe if better use of the American who supported British.

  • @ethanlewis1459
    @ethanlewis1459 6 місяців тому +1

    I hope you do videos on the Royal Navy and people like Lord Nelson or Thomas Cochrane

  • @peterkerruish8136
    @peterkerruish8136 6 місяців тому

    Love your even-handed explanation of sh.t that went down. Cheers M8.

  • @robertstrong6798
    @robertstrong6798 6 місяців тому +25

    Cornwallis is badly underrated he won numerous battles while constantly fighting logistical issues. The loss of America all boils down to logistics and the French

    • @DonAbrams-hq7ln
      @DonAbrams-hq7ln 6 місяців тому +1

      Where was the Royal Navy knowing Charles was surrounded
      and trapped at Yorktown?

    • @robertstrong6798
      @robertstrong6798 6 місяців тому +4

      The British Empire needed their ships to guard local waters and India , problem with having a massive Empire is you need to guard it all. Also the ships were mostly over twenty years old and dated. Most Empires in human history fall because everyone gangs up on them. That mixed with internal corruption

    • @unspoken24
      @unspoken24 6 місяців тому +3

      Yep that’s all. Nothing to do with American resolve 😂

    • @robertstrong6798
      @robertstrong6798 6 місяців тому +3

      Of course unspoken but no French no win

    • @andrewbarr5227
      @andrewbarr5227 6 місяців тому +3

      ​@@unspoken24 while the colonial resolve was strong.. that wasn't enough without the French they lose

  • @coltenbeachel645
    @coltenbeachel645 6 місяців тому +6

    The American Revolution was a British political Cold War that went hot in its colonies.

    • @ianmedford4855
      @ianmedford4855 6 місяців тому

      I guarantee that after Bunker Hill both sides looked at their friends and said "so THATS what its like to fight Englishmen? Fu*king hell."

    • @coltenbeachel645
      @coltenbeachel645 6 місяців тому +1

      @@ianmedford4855 when I was a kid I never realized why the loyalists were called “Torys” now I’m an adult and realizing the whole narrative we were fed is kinda bs.

  • @DT-sb9sv
    @DT-sb9sv 6 місяців тому +2

    Very interesting hearing the British perspective. Sounds a little like the Boer War years later, from a British Perspective. A western trained guerrilla force against a superior imperial force. The Americans learned guerrilla tactics in the French Indian War.

    • @redcoathistory
      @redcoathistory  6 місяців тому +4

      Not really mate. The Continental army won the war because they learned to fight the British at the own game and beat them in a stand up fight - it's a bit of a myth about them being some sort of guerilla force. On Tuesday we have a video dropping about this. I think you'll like it.

    • @brianoneill4470
      @brianoneill4470 6 місяців тому +1

      Funnily enough so did the British...

  • @morganhale3434
    @morganhale3434 6 місяців тому

    New to channel, but you should check out the battle of Monmouth Courthouse if you haven't already. Very interesting battle.

  • @randolph69
    @randolph69 6 місяців тому

    Quentin Kennedy's Indian Corps during the Anglo-Cherokee War is probably the most badass and unique unit I've read about.

  • @Coka-Rolla
    @Coka-Rolla 6 місяців тому

    I lived in South Carolina my whole life. I recently heard of “Carolina Day” which celebrates the victory at Sullivans Island. I’m gunna throw a party for it this year and confuse my neighbors with the old state flag, the Union Jack 🇬🇧 and some fireworks flying.

  • @CrispianBarlow
    @CrispianBarlow 6 місяців тому +1

    As an interesting connection to your Indian videos, Cornwallis was later Governor General of India (succeeded by my ancestor Sir George Barlow Bt.) As a result of his experiences in America he introduced guidelines into the Indian Civil Service to discourage locals from marrying Brits as he felt that it caused mixed loyaties of the type that lead to the American revolution.

    • @redcoathistory
      @redcoathistory  6 місяців тому +1

      Interesting - thanks I didn't know about the mixed marriages thing.

  • @mktf5582
    @mktf5582 6 місяців тому

    Please do more ELITE = soldiers/commanders/regiments, not just American revolution but other wars/conflicts as well.

    • @redcoathistory
      @redcoathistory  6 місяців тому

      Dear Sir, please check my channel as there are many that I'm sure you will enjoy. And yes, there are more in the pipeline also. Thanks

    • @mktf5582
      @mktf5582 6 місяців тому

      @@redcoathistory Guillermo Miller = Latin American wars of independence, the man was a complete soldier = capable in any position/soldiering, and deserves more recognition.

  • @mitchellline4242
    @mitchellline4242 6 місяців тому +4

    Something I would find interesting is a video by you comparing Washington to the 5 British commanders of the war. Washington was by far the worst tactician of the revolution but was likely a superior overall commander and strategist compared to his British contemporaries.
    Especially as Washington's military carrier began as a British militia commander during the Seven years war.

    • @redcoathistory
      @redcoathistory  6 місяців тому +1

      Thanks a lot - that is certainly a good idea.

    • @johntillman6068
      @johntillman6068 6 місяців тому +4

      US MG Nathaneal Greene was the best battlefield tactician and campaign strategist on either side in the war. Indeed, he was almost the only original thinker. On the level of weapons employment, the US had BG Daniel Morgan's riflemen and British MJR Patrick Ferguson, KIA at Kings Mountain. Morgan's sharpshooters contributed to victory at both Saratoga and Cowpens.

    • @CrispianBarlow
      @CrispianBarlow 6 місяців тому +2

      When Washington was a Major in the British Army he was part of the incident that triggered the French and Indian War

    • @johntillman6068
      @johntillman6068 6 місяців тому +2

      @@CrispianBarlow He wasn't a British Army MJR, but in the Virginia militia. He wanted a royal commission, but never received one. Big mistake by His Majesty's government.

    • @CrispianBarlow
      @CrispianBarlow 6 місяців тому +1

      @@johntillman6068 Thanks for the clarification. I knew he was a major & fought with the British against the French.

  • @johntillman6068
    @johntillman6068 6 місяців тому

    The British Army used red battle dress for about 243 years, from c. 1642, with Cromwell's New Model Army, until replaced in combat by khaki c. 1885. "Venetian red" dye was the cheapest available in the 1640s and later.

  • @ianmedford4855
    @ianmedford4855 6 місяців тому

    33rd? As in "The Havercakes"?
    I just finished reading "Sharpes Tiger" about an hour ago.

  • @nicolasorozco1477
    @nicolasorozco1477 6 місяців тому

    my ancestor died in action at The Battle of White Plains...very sureal to think that he could have died fighting this regiment in battle and here I am in the modern times..watching their documentary.

  • @V.B.Squire
    @V.B.Squire 6 місяців тому +2

    Would love to know what the Indians were doing during the revolution, and how the alliances of the previous wars influenced their decisions.

    • @josephwalukonis9934
      @josephwalukonis9934 6 місяців тому +1

      Most of the native americans were allied to the British due to the Proclamation of 1763 which gave the lands west of the mountains to them and restricted colonial expansion. The British did not want a replay of Pontiac's War which took a lot of effort and expense to win.

  • @ak9989
    @ak9989 6 місяців тому +1

    In the 90s I visited every American Revolution battlefield on vacations😮. From Quebec to Kings Mountain😊. Fun trips. I do have a British officers gorget from 1778

    • @redcoathistory
      @redcoathistory  6 місяців тому +1

      Very cool! I hope to visit also one day. Which battlefield was the most interesting for you?

  • @tikkasako6.5
    @tikkasako6.5 6 місяців тому

    Please do a video on Cornwallis' magnificent South Carloina campaign, resulting in not one victory and the surrender of his WHOLE FORCE, without a fight at Yorktoen. (Dear Boy, your moniker, here).

  • @kennedymcgovern5413
    @kennedymcgovern5413 6 місяців тому

    There's more.
    The tactc that General Greene used at Guilford Courthouse was actually not his invention. Daniel Morgan invented it and used it to whip Banistre Tarleton in a smaller engagement. I think that happened at Cowpens, but I might be mistaken about where he did it (going on memory here). But Greene got the report of the success of the tactic against Tarleton, and decided to employ it on a larger scale against Cormwallis at Guilford Courthouse, where it worked well again.

  • @JamesThomas-gg6il
    @JamesThomas-gg6il 6 місяців тому

    And we've returned the favor several times.

  • @hound3000
    @hound3000 6 місяців тому +1

    To think that Cornwallis went to India many years after this war. There is even a fort named after him in the northern state of Penang, Malaysia. I don't think he came to Malaysia though.

  • @friesregularsize
    @friesregularsize 6 місяців тому +1

    People talking about Americans and French winning the war is weird.
    Guys, like 1/3rd of Americans were loyalists to the British. There were battles between Americans based on allegiance.
    Also, yes, the French helped but the Spanish and Belgians were vital too.
    Spain helped with American troop payrolls, provided cannons, uniforms. The most common currency in the Americas at the time was Spanish.
    The British and Union loyalists were defeated in part not because “We kicked their ass.”
    In was because we spread their resources thin and wore them down.
    While they were fighting us, they were also committing large masses of troops in both the Siege of Gibraltar for many years, Menorca and the West Indies.
    We have France AND Spain to thank for those diversions.

  • @karlking4980
    @karlking4980 6 місяців тому +1

    Excellent video! I have one question. What specifically made the 33rd "elite?" The term elite is used a lot to describe regular units, especially in the American Civil War. In modern militaries, the elite units have specialized training with sometimes half or more of the candidatesdropped (washed out). Just the very best survive the training and join the units. When I think of modern elite units, I think of the British SAS, U.S. Navy Seals and Army Delta, and the French Foreign Legion. They go through months and years of specialized training. What made the 33rd, not just good,, but elite? Thanks for taking the time to read my comment - and hopefully reply.
    Thanks!

    • @mitchellline4242
      @mitchellline4242 6 місяців тому

      I believe they went over this in an earlier video. Basically Cornwallis made sure to only handpick the best men to be officers. They weren't elite like special forces but more like the american 3rd infantry regiment (the old guard)

    • @karlking4980
      @karlking4980 6 місяців тому +1

      @@mitchellline4242 Thanks for the reply. The U.S. Old Guard are certainly excellent ceremonial troops. I just think the term elite is a little over used. One example of a 19th century elite unite was Berdan's sharp shooters. (The 1st U.S. Sharpshooters.) You had to pass a marksmanship test to join the unit. Many tried but most failed. It sounds like the 33rd accepted anyone into the ranks but the officers were excellent and therefore trained the regiment to an above average standard for that time period. But I reserve the right to be wrong once again.

    • @redcoathistory
      @redcoathistory  6 місяців тому +1

      Hi - I use the term "elite" more as a way to make it relevant to modern audiences...You are correct in that the term isn't really the right one for the times...what they were was an excellent line infantry regiment but that is a much harder headline to write!

    • @karlking4980
      @karlking4980 6 місяців тому

      @@redcoathistory Makes sense. I know it is outside your Redcoat history area of knowledge and perhaps interest, but I would be interested in a video comparing, who I believe was the finest 19th century general, Wellington, to the top four U.S. Civil War Union generals: Grant, Meade, Sherman, and Sheridan. Other than Kearny, I have always felt the Union generals were too timid whereas Wellington was amazing both in defense and on the offensive. Keep up the great work!

    • @mitchellline4242
      @mitchellline4242 6 місяців тому +1

      @@karlking4980 all the best civil war generals were confederates.

  • @kennethmaney914
    @kennethmaney914 6 місяців тому

    I think you'll find that the North Lincolnshire where the elite regiment in America... They had green facings. The south Lincolnshire regiment with yellow facings, where known as the yellow bellies. Not because of the facings, but they where prone to losing there colours.

  • @Geo_Seph
    @Geo_Seph 6 місяців тому

    The 33rd regiment of foot was very good in empire total war.

  • @expeditioncalypsowind
    @expeditioncalypsowind 6 місяців тому

    Battle of Guilford Court House was the beginning of the end for the British , they "won" the battle but post victory decisions after such a calamity of personnel loss ( estimated as one quarter of the British ) amongst the redcoats put the events that lead to total surrender by the British into motion.

  • @bobstine3785
    @bobstine3785 4 місяці тому

    American historians view the Battle of Monmouth as critical: Washington demonstrated that he had an army that could go toe to toe with the Brits. He then kept his army out of major conflict until he thought he could gain an overwhelming win. This win turned out to be at Yorktown.

  • @patwilson2546
    @patwilson2546 6 місяців тому +2

    I don't know why you say that Yorktown wasn't really the end of the Revolutionary War. Within months loyalists were evacuated from the colonies. There were no more major engagements within the 13 colonies afterwards. It took two years to get to the treaty of Paris but Yorktown was it as far as major combats are concerned. Your guest dismissively makes comments about later actions with "Americans aren't taught that". We are not taught that because things happening in the Caribbean are not our history and only tangentially related to the Revolutionary War.
    So, yeah, Yorktown was the end of the Revolutionary War. British diddling about in the rest of the world, which would continue on until the middle of the 20th century, shockingly enough, is not deeply studied in the US.

  • @TheGrowler55
    @TheGrowler55 6 місяців тому +3

    I would suggest that the Scottish Regiments are elite troops in Battle, just saying 😎🇬🇧👊

  • @thechancellor3715
    @thechancellor3715 6 місяців тому

    Perhaps Mr. Niven can discuss the elite units that guarded the Crown's notorious prison ships and prisons in NYC. 11,500 Anericans died in such, almost three times the number, 4,300, killed in action during the entire course of the war.
    Grand invention that, waterborne Black Holes of Calcutta.

    • @waynenash6008
      @waynenash6008 6 місяців тому +1

      Some of the blame needs to rest with the colonists, as food and medical supplies were their responsibility,

  • @geoffjones4285
    @geoffjones4285 6 місяців тому

    Just mentioned the Vietnam water in American see if they wish to talk about it as much as they talk about other wars or incidentally how the Beatles with the French intervention

  • @windalfalatar333
    @windalfalatar333 6 місяців тому +1

    Which is the best computer strategy game to play if you want to put history right in the Rebellion of the Colonies?

    • @redcoathistory
      @redcoathistory  6 місяців тому +1

      Great question...I'm not sure - anyone else want to join this thread?

    • @greghoyt4061
      @greghoyt4061 6 місяців тому +2

      I’d highly recommend Ultimate General: American Revolution. It’s challenging, wicked fun and it gets very in depth. It’s historically accurate where it needs to be, however it also leaves enough open-ended where it’s also a sandbox experience. For example, the Continental Navy never had sixth rates. However, if you choose to do so, you can eventually research and build them.
      It’s still in early access and only the American campaign is available. However, additional content is regularly uploaded, which will eventually include the British campaign. From what I’ve read, it will be very different from the American campaign, with its own set of unique mechanics and challenges.
      In time, you’ll be able to satisfy your lust to conquer us and put us all to the sword. 😉

    • @windalfalatar333
      @windalfalatar333 6 місяців тому

      @@greghoyt4061 Thank you ever so much!! I've played their Gettysburg and American Civil War games and enjoyed them tremendously so I'll give this one a go!!

  • @sirdudleynightshade8747
    @sirdudleynightshade8747 2 місяці тому

    I'm sure Cornwallis surrendered at Saratoga (Hudson Valley?), not Yorktown.

  • @morganhale3434
    @morganhale3434 6 місяців тому

    The problem with the Southern Campaign of 1780 was lack of good intelligence. It did not take into account the presence of the Over-the-Mountain-Boys in eastern Tennessee and Kentucky who were frontiersman with combat experience fighting native American tribes. Virulent patriots who hated the crown because of the stop to immigration west of the Alleghenies after the 7 years' war. My family lived in Tennessee and Kentucky during that time and originally came from western North Carolina. They had close connection with their former relatives in the Carolinas and Virginia and came to their aid during the 1780 campaign versus the Loyalists and the later British reinforcements at King's Mountain. Their great utility to the Patriot cause were as a morale boost from being reinforcements and Napoleon said "God favors the Army with Bigger Battalions" it still was attritional warfare, experienced scouts, and excellent riflemen (on the frontier if you are not a good shot your family probably starves during the winter, the west had extremely low excess food production and there was no transportation infrastructure.)The most avid Patriot supporters were in the foothills of the Blue Ridge Mountains while the Loyalists were mostly centered in the Tidewater coastal areas and not very militant in comparison.

  • @welshknight1456
    @welshknight1456 6 місяців тому

    Don't forget the 23rd foot regiment.

  • @Moto_Dad_114
    @Moto_Dad_114 6 місяців тому

    Congratulations on 2nd place.

  • @sledgehammerm29
    @sledgehammerm29 6 місяців тому

    Hold on. That guy in the thumbnail isn't a British general. That's Benjamin Franklin!

  • @boatingexplainedwithcapndr8359
    @boatingexplainedwithcapndr8359 6 місяців тому

    Great video. However, Cornwallis surrendered at Yorktown with 5,000 British soldiers and some 2,000+ Hessian mercenaries.

  • @harryshriver6223
    @harryshriver6223 6 місяців тому

    Yes but in the end who won? Enough said

  • @willn703
    @willn703 6 місяців тому +2

    To be honest Gates was the worst general in the Continental Army...and was in command at Camden. While Gates also had command at Saratoga that was very much Benedict Arnold who won that battle. Gates also was responsible for the American van falling back at Monmouth instead of standing and Washington had to rally the van.

  • @johntillman6068
    @johntillman6068 6 місяців тому

    The 33rd Regiment of Foot missed the battles which won the North for the US, Saratoga, and, even though they were in the region, the South, ie Cowpens.

  • @Outlier999
    @Outlier999 6 місяців тому +13

    We did not defeat the British. We outlasted them. The Taliban did the same thing to us in Afghanistan 🇦🇫 and Vietnam was the same thing.

    • @donaldkroth2579
      @donaldkroth2579 6 місяців тому +1

      Hit and run tactics like the North American indigenous warriors used. Whinkler's Osprey books are recommended reads. Point Pleasant, Tippecanoe, etc.

    • @natedlc854
      @natedlc854 6 місяців тому +3

      That is just not true. The British were decisively defeated in the field. Thats why Conwallis surrendered at Yorktown.

    • @rungfang27
      @rungfang27 5 місяців тому

      When you really don't know much about history, or even history from the past 60 years!

  • @kmarks97236
    @kmarks97236 6 місяців тому

    You forgot Cowpens. Maybe the 33rd wasn’t part of that battle.

  • @outdoorlife5396
    @outdoorlife5396 6 місяців тому

    It is interesting to what the Brits have to say about the AR. I think in the south, you are leaving out it was brother vs brother feud. The British didn't help. With Banister Tarlton, Fergusion would try to talk. His big mistake was talking about going over the mountains killing and burning people and their homes. People who were very use to fighting Indians, they hacked their homes out of the wilderness. These people were not push overs. I do believe that if Tarlton had of been killed instead of Fergusion, there might have been a bite of a difference. There was a rub between the three and neither Cornwallis nor Tarlton would come to Ferguson's aid. At Camden, the Americans were poorly led. They had no supplies to support their movements. The British, were well led and supplied. As for the militia, most had hunting rifles. They had a distance of two hundred yards or more. They were very slow to load and no bayonets. The Brown Bess in my opinion was the AK47 of its day. Guilford Court house was a redo of Cowpens. Tarlton should have told them, not to screw up like he did. Then Cornwallis had to fire on his own troops. Also, I think you left out Cornwallis destroyed his own supplies. Tables, chairs and none combat items to keep up with Greene. Greene spares with him, then crosses the Dan River. There are no boats, so Cornwallis pulls back, and Greene recrosses the river. I may have missed some of this, he is a good speaker, but dry as a popcorn fart. But that is the worst I can say, I enjoyed the video. Because now we are in the 3rd rule of French warfare. Let the British and the Americans make up and they will do most of your fighting for you. lol

    • @japhfo
      @japhfo 5 місяців тому

      " His big mistake was talking about going over the mountains killing and burning people and their homes."
      That has been proved to be a myth invented in the 1820s

    • @outdoorlife5396
      @outdoorlife5396 5 місяців тому

      @@japhfo Fergusion actually made that statement. I will lay to waste with sword to all you over the mountain men. That was the wrong thing to say. All thought we didn't do that well in the east, in the war of 1812, we did fine in the back country. I think along with the long supply lines, the type of fighting and the Battle of New Orleans, it was a prelude to what was to come. Let's make peace. Thing is, the war started over taking American Sailors, which was not mentioned in the peace agreement. I think both sides had enough.

    • @japhfo
      @japhfo 5 місяців тому

      @@outdoorlife5396 Apparently there is no reference to this alleged threat before 1823 when it entered the folklore, and no documentary record from the time. In Cornwallis' papers are copies of what Ferguson actually proclaimed:
      "Wherefore every man that is not conscious of crimes that render him unfit to live in a state of peace in civil society has only to repair to his home and declare his submission, after which his person, his property and just rights as a freeman will be protected to the utmost until the re-establishment of civil government shall for ever fix and secure his libertys...As to those rebels who continue the waste of human blood in a war without a just object or even a reasonable pretext, whatever fate may befall them and their property, it shall be the endeavour of the King’s officers to protect their wives and familys from injury or insult and to pursue with equal vengeance those of their own party or of the enemy who shall offer any outrage or insult to the female sex or act the part of house thieves....
      They [the Loyalists] are strictly enjoined to offer no injury to the persons or property of those men wo have been of the rebel side who remain at home and shew a disposition for peace and submission, but to afford every protection in their power to them and to women and children of every denomination … those who by plunder and outrage disgrace the name of loyalists will be punished even to death as scoundrels who wish to continue to their country the miserys of war, to distress the women and children and other innocent people, to destroy all the property on both sides, and to retard the progress of His Majesty’s arms."
      (The Cornwallis Papers, Vol II, 2010)

    • @outdoorlife5396
      @outdoorlife5396 5 місяців тому

      ​@@japhfo They must have left it over here. It is American History, many documentaries, I have no idea where it's at. But the history professors would not have gotten an lecture on TV wrong. The papers or speech must have been left over here. Of the two Fergusion was better, but he and Tarlton hated each other. Cornwallis didn't like him. He did say it according to the historian at Kings Mtn NP. Right afterwards we took turn urinating on Ferguson' grave.(it was the bicentennial) But with Tarlton burning homes and farms, his no surrender or no quarter, ain't no way in hell anyone would believe Ferguson. Of the two I would have believed him way before Tarlton or Cornwallis. When Fergusion was at Kings Mtn, Charolette is about 25 miles away, Cornwallis was there, he didn't bother to reinforce him, nor did Tarlton, I forget where he was. He was close to. He claimed to have been sick. Neither supported him. Do he would not have died on KM. Thing of it is, is Cornwallis shot his self in the foot in my opinion. Tarlton was defeated about 4 months later. His legion was shot to sh*t. I do not think with the Hatfield/McCoy feuding that was going on in the back country he would have raised another legion. Then to make matters worse, I forget the British commanders name who didn't support him. If he had of gotten there sooner maybe the French would not have bottled Cornwallis up. With the long supply lines, the thoughts on the King, the more the Brits had to do to make the Colonist get in line, the more enemies they made. Maybe the paperwork is over here. Every time I KM, CP or Yorktown, they are full of museums that pretty much say the same thing.

  • @EverGlorious22nd168
    @EverGlorious22nd168 6 місяців тому

    22nd (Cheshire) Regiiment of Foot. There's a very good reason why their motto is/was "Ever Glorious."" They too were in almost every serious engagement of the revolutionary war with success.

  • @johnthomas2485
    @johnthomas2485 6 місяців тому

    US had a navy, just a tuny one. John Paul Jones.

  • @rewild6134
    @rewild6134 6 місяців тому +5

    Bloody French.

  • @stephenbird5472
    @stephenbird5472 3 місяці тому

    This is fun!! Even after all these years the Brits cannot admit they were bettered by the Americans. Let me help you out. The reason Cornwallis went to Virginia was he was in full retreat. He split his forces into three groups. The largest was at Gilford Courthouse and took heavy losses. The other two groups were wiped out entirely by the Americans. One group by Scots-Irish at Kings Mountain and Tarleton was also wiped out. Cornwallis was out of supplies and could not return to Charleston so he pillaged farms in Virginia and ran to Yorktown to get transport out of danger. The French navy stopped his transport so he had to fight at Yorktown and lost one more time. Kind of like you guys he was so embarrassed at being beat by the Americans he hid in his room so would not have to surrender his sword directly.

    • @InhertiaPink-t7n
      @InhertiaPink-t7n 2 місяці тому +2

      And now you’re out here crying and wasting time on essays in UA-cam comments XD

  • @mattyallen3396
    @mattyallen3396 6 місяців тому +3

    Biggest mistake the yanks ever made

  • @FelixstoweFoamForge
    @FelixstoweFoamForge 6 місяців тому +90

    Just try telling an American, particularity a republican, that they only won the war because of the French, and see just how far you get. Mind you, they did win.

    • @philiprufus4427
      @philiprufus4427 6 місяців тому +32

      Yeah, ! Most do not realise Britain was fighting in Europe and India at the same time.

    • @GrumpyGenXGramps
      @GrumpyGenXGramps 6 місяців тому +55

      The French definitely helped us win the war but to say they are the “only” reason, is ignorant. They won MANY battles without the help of the French. We definitely didn’t have a Navy equal to the Brits and that’s where the French assistance was invaluable! Although the Brits also could not have won a War of Attrition(at that time) with an extremely determined enemy, with the distances they were from the battlefields.
      As a Republican myself, I don’t know anyone that doesn’t give France the credit they are due and of course we know this! It IS taught in American History classes in American schools.

    • @RandomDudeOYT
      @RandomDudeOYT 6 місяців тому +47

      I’m an American Republican and understand how we didn’t do this on our own. I rarely meet a serious early US historian in the US that’s a Democrat so your point is pretty inaccurate.

    • @RandomDudeOYT
      @RandomDudeOYT 6 місяців тому +19

      @@GrumpyGenXGramps yea I don’t see too many people thinking we did this on our own. At least not many that are watching these types of history videos haha

    • @GrumpyGenXGramps
      @GrumpyGenXGramps 6 місяців тому

      @@RandomDudeOYT only those that failed American History 101! LOL They’re just as ignorant as those that say it’s “only” because of the French! The Founders already knew ew we would get French support and that England was already stretched thin! It was the perfect time to rebel and stop paying for those other wars!
      LOL
      Still, not too bad for a bunch of farmer militiamen with squirrel rifles!

  • @andrewyarosh1809
    @andrewyarosh1809 6 місяців тому

    Camden, where Cornwallis gave Tarleton the opportunity to further hone his genocidal inclinations that first appeared at Waxhaws. Morgan finally broke Tarleton at Cowpens, but the stench of Tarleton’s behavior was so great that when Cornwallis’ officers were invited to dine with Washington’s, Tarleton was specifically excluded from the invitation. With great sensitivity, the British Army promoted Tarleton to General, and the British zeitgeist made him a member of Parliament. Where he proceeded to sustain his career in public life with lifelong and virulent opposition to the abolition of slavery. Rather than ostracizing “The Butcher of Waxhaws,” British society applauded and promoted this war criminal.

  • @1994CPK
    @1994CPK 6 місяців тому +9

    Britain lost America but we have a new owner now, Israel.

  • @thomaschinn6344
    @thomaschinn6344 6 місяців тому

    we had been outed by french

  • @danydany3974
    @danydany3974 5 місяців тому

    Learn to live in present.Its history.nice to see in micky mouse horse guard parade.that is it.

  • @jim99west46
    @jim99west46 6 місяців тому

    British generals were largely incompetent. They had every advantage in men, mobility and material. Yet they staggered about as if they couldn’t drink enough alcohol.
    Tally ho to the whiskey barrel for 7 years! So glad the French unglued them from the bar!

  • @FirstLast.....
    @FirstLast..... 6 місяців тому

    Good thing the Brits lost. Saved us all from becoming throne sniffing plebs.

  • @JARRETT7121
    @JARRETT7121 3 місяці тому

    I respect the British but they tried to rule US with a heavy hand

  • @swiftymorgan3001
    @swiftymorgan3001 6 місяців тому +3

    The yank did only win because they had the French there and it took three months for us to send fresh troops over , God if Wellington had been in charge I think history would be different

    • @jamesmaier1223
      @jamesmaier1223 6 місяців тому +1

      Wellington was only born in 1769. He would have been 14 when it ended in 1783.

    • @swiftymorgan3001
      @swiftymorgan3001 6 місяців тому

      @jamesmaier1223 yes mate your right I ment the comment as more of a reference, but about 1812

  • @michaelabbott8248
    @michaelabbott8248 6 місяців тому +1

    Brits still crying that they lost, get over it and yourselves. 🙄👎

    • @redcoathistory
      @redcoathistory  6 місяців тому +3

      What in the video seems to be crying or resentful?