I have a classic with one dommet. I pop my roof up a bit. Then open door do I can use step to help put roof a ll the way up. then attach wind bars. Zi have been lucky haven't had to put up in really windy conditions
I'm not sure exactly which part you're referring to. The axle on the camper is a torsion axle - I always assumed it was a Dexter but I'm not sure. I don't know who makes the wind assist poles I'm using to lift the camper in this video.
Thanks for the video Alice! One question I have for you is can you get the a frame walls to separate enough to come down on your own? I just bought an Aliner, am solo, and can’t lift the one side high enough so that it separates all the way across so the other side can start to come down. Any insight?
Do you have the wind assist poles? Our Aliner is set up on the driveway and I haven't taken it down in awhile but I'd probably just do the reverse of what I show in this video: lift one side, then walk around and lift the other. There are others who recommend standing inside the trailer and lifting the top roof panel from it's center...I assume the lower panel doesn't hit them in the head coming down...and top section of the entry door would need to be open to stand inside. Haven't tried it myself though!
Average Alice Yes. I have the wind assist poles and have used them in my attempt to take it down. THey lift one side up, but not enough to get the entire roof to separate. To do that I have to get up in the trailer and push up on the roof. Maybe I am just too weak to lift the roof up. Freaks me out a bit - what if I can’t get it down?!?
@@CarolSue422 I sympathize. It may be your technique needs refinement? For example are you pushing straight up on the upper panel? Also try walking around to the other wind pole and raising that side after the first side is partially freed up. You're right, you can't release the entire roof with just one pole. And don't worry about breaking it... the roof can flex some amount and it won't be damaged
seems to me in a big wind it would be easier to get it up high enough so you could get inside and then maybe have some handles pretty attached to each roof half so you can raise it up to the locking point without it getting away from you. Just an idea. I don't have an A- liner.
Having had your Aliner for a season, what is your opinion on the dormers? The front dormer seems to integral to the layout of recent LXE models like yours so it would probably be hard to do without it but is the rear dormer worthwhile? My main question is how well they hold up when pulled over rough roads...seems like there are more places to rub and wear. Have you noticed any issues?
press all the knobs Personally we’ve really enjoyed the added space and headroom with both dormers. The big one has had issues with rain leaking down the side and it is hard to lift if it’s cold out. With two adults in the Aliner the dormers have been a sanity saver
@@averagealice8877 Thanks. Sounds like they are worth the extra trouble then. I think I have similar criteria to you. Looking for comfort for two adults while still having a "camping" experience...large bed and indoor plumbing for primitive rather that park. Was hoping to find something used to keep the costs down but only new Aliners come with hard dormers. I don't see the point of soft dormers on a hard side popup.
@@pressalltheknobs3277 I guess some people love the soft dormers but we were wanting more protection from wind, bears and whoever else might be lurking out there. But I just saw the new Geopro with a king bed...not a folding solution but same size as our Aliner, somewhat heavier. I might post a video
Aliners original solution to this was just a huge wad of silicone at the low joint. This joint also needs to fold and move so it’s a problem. I haven’t repaired mine yet- I keep making a Gorillatape gutter over the area. We don’t get much rain and I’ve been busy restoring a old class B. The good news about this particular leak is that the water ends up in the dormers aluminum shelf inside so not much damage occurs. We mop it up
Thanks for checking in! Still enjoying camping in the restored Roadtrek (I think there's a very limited audience for videos on the Roadtrek so I've cut back).
Honestly we haven't had any water accumulating in the open cell foam, or condensation in the foam, at the top of the dormer walls. We do get a lot of condensation from the roof peak and there is a strip of open cell there (the original installed by Aliner), but I'm certain that even if we were to replace that roof peak strip with closed cell we would still have condensation because of all the metal edges converging at that point and the heat differential when it's cold out. Likewise we haven't had water intrusion or accumulation through the open-cell that Aliner put on the A-walls. If there were an active roof leak that was draining into the foam I agree it would happen. (I know Slim says use closed cell but I'm just reporting our experience with our newer Aliner - Long explanation!) On the other hand, we haven't done a lot of long drives in hard driving rain. But even then with the way the dormers fold and lock down on closed cell rubber, the tops of the dormer walls aren't a source of water accumulation.
Nice video Alice. Thanks for showing the foam insulation - it looks like a good solution to the draft problem. Bob
Thanks for making the video you did a perfect job of showing me how it works.
Thanks for the information. Enjoy the rest of your summer. Happy camping.
Thanks Alice for another interesting video.
I have a classic with one dommet. I pop my roof up a bit. Then open door do I can use step to help put roof a ll the way up. then attach wind bars. Zi have been lucky haven't had to put up in really windy conditions
Most of the time when wind will damage your camper, during the moment you raise the roof at 1:20
Hello Alice, congratulations on the video, you could tell me the brand, the manufacturer of the torsion axis used in the device, thanks
We purchased it from Aliner when we bought the trailer
@@averagealice8877 - thanks in advance, yes, but these types of houses use torsion shafts, I would like to know the name of the shaft manufacturer
I'm not sure exactly which part you're referring to. The axle on the camper is a torsion axle - I always assumed it was a Dexter but I'm not sure. I don't know who makes the wind assist poles I'm using to lift the camper in this video.
@@averagealice8877 Thank you
Thanks for the video Alice! One question I have for you is can you get the a frame walls to separate enough to come down on your own? I just bought an Aliner, am solo, and can’t lift the one side high enough so that it separates all the way across so the other side can start to come down. Any insight?
Do you have the wind assist poles? Our Aliner is set up on the driveway and I haven't taken it down in awhile but I'd probably just do the reverse of what I show in this video: lift one side, then walk around and lift the other. There are others who recommend standing inside the trailer and lifting the top roof panel from it's center...I assume the lower panel doesn't hit them in the head coming down...and top section of the entry door would need to be open to stand inside. Haven't tried it myself though!
Average Alice Yes. I have the wind assist poles and have used them in my attempt to take it down. THey lift one side up, but not enough to get the entire roof to separate. To do that I have to get up in the trailer and push up on the roof. Maybe I am just too weak to lift the roof up. Freaks me out a bit - what if I can’t get it down?!?
@@CarolSue422 I sympathize. It may be your technique needs refinement? For example are you pushing straight up on the upper panel? Also try walking around to the other wind pole and raising that side after the first side is partially freed up. You're right, you can't release the entire roof with just one pole. And don't worry about breaking it... the roof can flex some amount and it won't be damaged
Average Alice thanks much! I will keep at it 😊
What a nice vid working on my rig now
I'd use felt-weatherstripping instead; felt doesn't squeak when it slides.
I have so got to have me one of these. Storage facility for my TT is 25 minutes away and $800/year.
seems to me in a big wind it would be easier to get it up high enough so you could get inside and then maybe have some handles pretty attached to each roof half so you can raise it up to the locking point without it getting away from you. Just an idea. I don't have an A- liner.
Having had your Aliner for a season, what is your opinion on the dormers? The front dormer seems to integral to the layout of recent LXE models like yours so it would probably be hard to do without it but is the rear dormer worthwhile? My main question is how well they hold up when pulled over rough roads...seems like there are more places to rub and wear. Have you noticed any issues?
press all the knobs Personally we’ve really enjoyed the added space and headroom with both dormers. The big one has had issues with rain leaking down the side and it is hard to lift if it’s cold out. With two adults in the Aliner the dormers have been a sanity saver
@@averagealice8877 Thanks. Sounds like they are worth the extra trouble then. I think I have similar criteria to you. Looking for comfort for two adults while still having a "camping" experience...large bed and indoor plumbing for primitive rather that park. Was hoping to find something used to keep the costs down but only new Aliners come with hard dormers. I don't see the point of soft dormers on a hard side popup.
@@pressalltheknobs3277 I guess some people love the soft dormers but we were wanting more protection from wind, bears and whoever else might be lurking out there. But I just saw the new Geopro with a king bed...not a folding solution but same size as our Aliner, somewhat heavier. I might post a video
@@averagealice8877 have you been able to fix the rain leaking issue?
Aliners original solution to this was just a huge wad of silicone at the low joint. This joint also needs to fold and move so it’s a problem. I haven’t repaired mine yet- I keep making a Gorillatape gutter over the area. We don’t get much rain and I’ve been busy restoring a old class B. The good news about this particular leak is that the water ends up in the dormers aluminum shelf inside so not much damage occurs. We mop it up
Can you tell me where you purchased the hammock storage nets inside your camper?
I think it was Autozone (chain store). They stretch a lot ...the non-stretch type would have been better but I think those were more expensive
Great video. Which mike are you using, works great.
just the camera mike (hence the air conditioner noise...)
Well its very clear.
Give us an update on you guys. Miss you.
Thanks for checking in! Still enjoying camping in the restored Roadtrek (I think there's a very limited audience for videos on the Roadtrek so I've cut back).
Where did you get your poles or did you just fabricate them? Thanks
They came from Aliner as a purchase option when we bought the trailer
I like your film.
Thank you Alice for sharing this! Definitely not for me solo!
take the open cell foam off and put closed cell foam on the open stuff will absorb water like a sponge
Honestly we haven't had any water accumulating in the open cell foam, or condensation in the foam, at the top of the dormer walls. We do get a lot of condensation from the roof peak and there is a strip of open cell there (the original installed by Aliner), but I'm certain that even if we were to replace that roof peak strip with closed cell we would still have condensation because of all the metal edges converging at that point and the heat differential when it's cold out. Likewise we haven't had water intrusion or accumulation through the open-cell that Aliner put on the A-walls. If there were an active roof leak that was draining into the foam I agree it would happen. (I know Slim says use closed cell but I'm just reporting our experience with our newer Aliner - Long explanation!) On the other hand, we haven't done a lot of long drives in hard driving rain. But even then with the way the dormers fold and lock down on closed cell rubber, the tops of the dormer walls aren't a source of water accumulation.
Look at slim potatoheas he has home made lift assist that's way easier