We were definitely grinding in the 80's, I started back in 1986, they were competing against Indy, Tracker, Venture, Thunder, Z-Roller, and then Grind King. Yes they came out in the 70's.
Gabe talkin' about 80s skating being the coolest, how about they get the exact setup Marty Mcfly skates into school in the opening scene of Back to the Future? Get Chris Hiett back in there to show them what old school decks are all about! :D
Gullwing were one of the main brands in the early 90s, with independent and tracker. They were lighter than independents and they didn’t break as easily as trackers.
Gullwing Street Shadow. The original with the thick baseplate. Rode them hard and could not break them. Only needed new Kingpins and bushings after a while. The baseplate had an hexagonal space that allowed the kingpin nut to set tightly, that plus a normal kingpin upside down, and you have a cheap and easy to convert inverted kingpin.
Yo... New to yr channel,,,, old to skating. I skated in the 80s and now I'm 50 and decided to get back on a board as a recreational pastime. Gullwing trucks were legit brother
I had a set of these in hot pink/purple on the bottom of the old Powell Peralta Tony Hawk Black deck with Purple claw. Quite lightweight and very easy to grind.
Gullwings are my No. 1 fave truck. I still skate them. The grove is just a design thing, not for grinding. Those are the trucks I learned to slappy on.
Woah…gullwing magnesiums, I had some of them back in the 90’s, they were great trucks…could grind anything and the fact that you didn’t need a riser cause of the thick plastic baseplate was sweet, I’m gonna watch the rest of the video, cheers guys.
I'm trying to remember these, but I think the groove in the middle was for ramp copings. I want to say the vert skaters back then mainly used these. I may be wrong. I don't know anymore. I was like 13 or so when these came out.
that makes sense, i remember in one of their older videos when they had a bunch of vert/bowl skaters at the park, their trucks were worn down in the center like that
The trucks on the phone were for slalom skateboard racing. Dodging cones on a hill. Nowadays there are precision trucks called radikal or gog for slalom racing. Super specialized and cnc milled for precision and adjustability. Check out some slalom skateboarding to see them in action.
Hey Braille skateboarding! I got my first skateboard in 1975 and back then Gullwings original trucks were a wildly different pivot based truck completely different than any conventional truck! They didn't sell well so Gullwing started making conventional trucks like this blue things you got there in this vid! Ride ride ride!
These are dope. I used to ride a pair of gullwings circa 1988-89. I liked them because they handled great, the bushings didn't wear out as fast or dry out and split, the hangers didn't bend on high drops like Indy, the baseplates didn't break and the axles didn't shift like with early Tracker trucks. Grind King Disruptors and Krux K5's are the legs now. I kind of miss having extra sets of holes on the baseplates to adjust your wheelbase. You should take a board with Tracker Ultra Lights on it off of the Braille drop and watch the baseplates shatter in super slow-mo.
I once had a set of Gullwing Street Shadow 2 trucks on a Planet Earth Chris Miller deck with Santa Cruz Slim rails and Toxic Shock Ragdoll wheels. It was around 90/91 I believe when the first boards with a kick on the nose started to appear......now feeling old 😆😊
If memory serves, Vision debuted the "Double Kick" in like 88 or so... Took a couple years to catch on and then in a much modified form. Wasn't Valleley one of the other early adopters? Someone will correct me I'm sure. Look up that Vision board and you'll laugh it was hideous and the kick angles were STEEP
People did tend to gravitate toward the idea that the center relief was for grinding (which led to the silly follow-on 'innovation' of 'roller trucks'), but IIRC, this feature was actually advertised as an engineering feature intended to shave off excess material and reduce weight (which is also why they were made of magnesium, duh!) while increasing surface area and improving stress distribution, making them stronger as well as lighter. Magnesium is the giveaway here: these were all about lightness, and with magnesium being not terribly strong, careful attention to stress distribution is how you make a magnesium part intended to cope with stress without making it extra-chunky. And titanium was too expensive to even contemplate at the time. I believe they also had a plastic baseplate that was some kind of special stuff (glass- or nylon-filled plastic or maybe linen-filled phenolic?) also aimed at eliminating weight while retaining strength. Pick up pretty much any built board from that era and you'll realize that everything was way heavier than it is now (not only was everything bigger and heavier, but we all had skid plates and rails, etc.), so this approach made a lot of sense at the time.
Trucks like that were the reason I used to flip my kingpins on all my trucks then I believe Skull skates came out with the large allen king pin bolts. man I miss riding.
I actually have an old pair of gulwings, and I think they are the pro 3. I was given them in the early 90s from my friend's brother who used to skate for H-street. They've seen better days but I think they're in my parents attic, if you really want them let me know.
The ones you were looking at in the 70s article are trucks for Quad Skates/Roller skates & or penny boards. That’s why they’re so small. The ones you’re skating in the video are re-issues, they are split Axel trucks designed for cruiser boards or downhill & slalom skating, they’re not designed for grinding. Gullwing is known for mostly making cruiser & longboard trucks. They do have one model that is your more traditional skateboard truck & that would be the Shadow model series. Tracker trucks & Indy were probably the major truck companies along with Gullwing. Tracker trucks makes great modern trucks, as well as Indy for ages. Gullwing sorta stayed in the cruiser & longboard realm with the exception of the Shadow model trucks for regular skateboarding.
GABE......... I'm hurt "Modern skateboarding is not as cool as it was in the 80s........." I think someone needs to be taken to school.. ;-) As a daily consumer of Braille Content... and an almost 50 yo (yet this video makes me feel I'm 85), still jumping on my board whenever possible, old man. Don't forget why...... skateparks were built. Because all of us skaters in the 80s destroyed so many curbs, parking blocks, planters, ledges, rails, pool coping.... so on and so forth. The skate parks with Angle Iron grew.... those skater blocks put on crubs and rails to stop the grinding and board sliding were invented. I think you would be pretty surprised how much you don't know. ;- ) But I still LIke You and The Entire Team! So I PROPOSE a new segment. GABE and BRAILLE Team react to Skateboard Videos (or segments of videos) from the 80s and 90s. My immediate suggestions, and my fellow Old Skoolers can let them know as well, are as follows: 1. H-Street Shackle-Me-Not (.........Matt..... who .....Matt... Matt Hensley! Riding those same Gullwings) 2. Powell Peralta Public Domain (Those incredible Rubber Boys!) 3. Powell Peralta Ban This (Cab teaches you the perfect line) 4. Santa Cruz Streets on Fire (NATAS...... nuff said) 5. Santa Cruz Reason for Living (Dressen.... still smooth AF!) Check out the pioneers of Grinds! ;- ) And another challenge to follow. A game of skate based on what you witness on the video! 1.....2.....3.....Shoot!
Lmao! You guys are to funny! I still ride these and g&s,og indys and you are rite,skateboarding in the 80's was way funner,all the different shapes it was just rad,im glad old skool decks are coming back,and those g wings are more for vert ramp coping,cheers!
I have some Grind King G2s hanging around ....they were on an ancient complete someone gave me a while back! 13:09 The Chicken Teriyaki Kyro Special, you love to hear it
i have some stage 6 indys and santa cruz 0jII 60mm wheels from late '80s on a cruiser setup. gullwings are sick, i have a set of level 3s from mid '90s and some sidewinder IIs. gullwing had some of the best pros of all time, ben schroeder, chris miller, jeff phillips
I worked at Rodolpho's Amsterdam back inthe 80', yup sold plenty of those trucks. I was lucky enough to have been a sponsored vert. Roller skater. I got to test out many stuff f.e the Indeependent pre production straigth Ermico base-plates which brroke after 4 months abuse, then got the upgraded left right Ermico base plates, that I abused AF for over 10 years but they never broke. But enough about that, try to obtain a Hobyflex park machine ( it's big wide and heavy 'a door' lol) . Have you guys ever skatea freestyle skateboard (A Powell Rodney Mullen modell, with my favo trucks the Indy 101's? If you havent please go retro, for those who dont know Rodney Mullen is the Goat of skateboarrding.
Another Amazon trucks wheels is back to build really different creativity and balance of holding on a obstacle than the other trucks are original of a standard version trucks
Wow I remember them gull wing was top notch back in the day only problem with them was when you lock in it was are to get them unlock which cause a lot of bailing and face plant lol
Dang. Taking me back to the days of Powell and Peralta. I had those original trucks made by Goldwing in the 80’s. They went from a Powell deck to a Valtera after awhile. I think the bearings I used back then weren’t as great as the Reds used later on.
I've just started skating again after 24 years! My boy is taking a shine to it and I thought, "I wonder"? Turns out I can still do allot 🤣🤣. Unfortunately my knees don't think so, but I will pull them in line. Anyway, love the content.
You should try titan ti-lite trucks I think there titanium, they use to have them in the late 90’s. I had a semi run my board over and it didn’t do anything to the trucks and it was ran over by 4 wheels
i always liked the way gull wings looked but i was strictly indy. i had a set of trackers that broke and i was strictly indy after that. i had a set of san diegos back in the early 90s and they were the best but they stopped making them.
We were definitely grinding in the 80's, I started back in 1986, they were competing against Indy, Tracker, Venture, Thunder, Z-Roller, and then Grind King. Yes they came out in the 70's.
I first started skating in 86/87 too 😊
They were fun times 🙏
@@larryjimbob I was this many fingers (5) old back then. 😅
curbs
Braille should totally get some ancient Z Rollers and try them out on camera :) Can you really call it a grind if it rolls?
Gabe talkin' about 80s skating being the coolest, how about they get the exact setup Marty Mcfly skates into school in the opening scene of Back to the Future? Get Chris Hiett back in there to show them what old school decks are all about! :D
I want an episode of Gabe and moe just geeking on old school skateboard stuff. Or the braille team goes to skateboard museum.
We have gone several times, it is an amazing place. here is one of the videos ua-cam.com/video/eEwkUYJ5k_w/v-deo.html
Chaotic energy in this one. beginning to end, love it
Gullwing were one of the main brands in the early 90s, with independent and tracker. They were lighter than independents and they didn’t break as easily as trackers.
My first board was a Vision Jinx with Tracker trucks 😊
Feeling like a skate dinosaur now 😆🙏
@@larryjimbob bang bang bang.... okay, it rolls again
Gullwing Street Shadow. The original with the thick baseplate. Rode them hard and could not break them. Only needed new Kingpins and bushings after a while.
The baseplate had an hexagonal space that allowed the kingpin nut to set tightly, that plus a normal kingpin upside down, and you have a cheap and easy to convert inverted kingpin.
Amazing video love from italy
I vibe with the way this was shot, it feels different and more chill compared to other videos
Yo... New to yr channel,,,, old to skating. I skated in the 80s and now I'm 50 and decided to get back on a board as a recreational pastime. Gullwing trucks were legit brother
I had a set of these in hot pink/purple on the bottom of the old Powell Peralta Tony Hawk Black deck with Purple claw. Quite lightweight and very easy to grind.
The Groove is for locking in. You're right, Chris.
Gullwings are my No. 1 fave truck. I still skate them. The grove is just a design thing, not for grinding. Those are the trucks I learned to slappy on.
Woah…gullwing magnesiums, I had some of them back in the 90’s, they were great trucks…could grind anything and the fact that you didn’t need a riser cause of the thick plastic baseplate was sweet, I’m gonna watch the rest of the video, cheers guys.
Different trucks to what I had, my gullwings had thick plastic baseplates
I had Gull Wing Trucks on my Sims Lester back in 1987
I'm trying to remember these, but I think the groove in the middle was for ramp copings. I want to say the vert skaters back then mainly used these. I may be wrong. I don't know anymore. I was like 13 or so when these came out.
that makes sense, i remember in one of their older videos when they had a bunch of vert/bowl skaters at the park, their trucks were worn down in the center like that
I too recall them being more popular with vert skaters.
Ain't nothing better than getting ready for work and watching a Braille video before hand.🔥
My favorite trucks from the 80s!!!!
The trucks on the phone were for slalom skateboard racing. Dodging cones on a hill. Nowadays there are precision trucks called radikal or gog for slalom racing. Super specialized and cnc milled for precision and adjustability. Check out some slalom skateboarding to see them in action.
I think people are forgetting that in the '80s they were super popular for vert skater's as well. In case no one mentioned it
I still ride the gull wing hangers on my skateboard. I am 48 years old and love this setup. Btw i use an inverted kingpin and an independent base
Hey Braille skateboarding! I got my first skateboard in 1975 and back then Gullwings original trucks were a wildly different pivot based truck completely different than any conventional truck! They didn't sell well so Gullwing started making conventional trucks like this blue things you got there in this vid! Ride ride ride!
These are dope. I used to ride a pair of gullwings circa 1988-89. I liked them because they handled great, the bushings didn't wear out as fast or dry out and split, the hangers didn't bend on high drops like Indy, the baseplates didn't break and the axles didn't shift like with early Tracker trucks. Grind King Disruptors and Krux K5's are the legs now. I kind of miss having extra sets of holes on the baseplates to adjust your wheelbase. You should take a board with Tracker Ultra Lights on it off of the Braille drop and watch the baseplates shatter in super slow-mo.
Been riding them since early 2000. They are the best trucks I’ve ridden.
My first pair of trucks were these exact Gullwings in white circa 1985 or so!
my friend bought them, i was inspired, but he busted them 2 days later.
I also had these at around the same time but mine were Green with white truck guards.
I once had a set of Gullwing Street Shadow 2 trucks on a Planet Earth Chris Miller deck with Santa Cruz Slim rails and Toxic Shock Ragdoll wheels. It was around 90/91 I believe when the first boards with a kick on the nose started to appear......now feeling old 😆😊
If memory serves, Vision debuted the "Double Kick" in like 88 or so... Took a couple years to catch on and then in a much modified form. Wasn't Valleley one of the other early adopters? Someone will correct me I'm sure. Look up that Vision board and you'll laugh it was hideous and the kick angles were STEEP
@@BakedAndAwakePodcast My first board was a Vision Jinx 😊👍
Do a 70s, 80s, 90s, 00s complete setups demo!
Gabe's outburst was hilarious lol
People did tend to gravitate toward the idea that the center relief was for grinding (which led to the silly follow-on 'innovation' of 'roller trucks'), but IIRC, this feature was actually advertised as an engineering feature intended to shave off excess material and reduce weight (which is also why they were made of magnesium, duh!) while increasing surface area and improving stress distribution, making them stronger as well as lighter. Magnesium is the giveaway here: these were all about lightness, and with magnesium being not terribly strong, careful attention to stress distribution is how you make a magnesium part intended to cope with stress without making it extra-chunky. And titanium was too expensive to even contemplate at the time. I believe they also had a plastic baseplate that was some kind of special stuff (glass- or nylon-filled plastic or maybe linen-filled phenolic?) also aimed at eliminating weight while retaining strength. Pick up pretty much any built board from that era and you'll realize that everything was way heavier than it is now (not only was everything bigger and heavier, but we all had skid plates and rails, etc.), so this approach made a lot of sense at the time.
I want a “mogely’s back” video when he returns
Yes!! Let's get a 30 minutes in the park video!!
Yea man back in the day they loved grinds and any tricks like that especially on vert
my first board: Vision Gator on Gullwings! won´t forget this days
I had a black and white set in about 92. My Indy’s would grind better but I remember my gullwing feeling smooth to ride.
Trucks like that were the reason I used to flip my kingpins on all my trucks then I believe Skull skates came out with the large allen king pin bolts. man I miss riding.
Yes I knew mcnug would like them!! That makes me happy. You should look up there ultralight Mach v1 gullwings
We should definitely look those up
@@brailleskateboarding they are extremely light. I still ride them on my vert board. And I'm 50!!!
At 6:38 just the way he said brother sent me
I still have my original Gull Wing trucks from the 80s. 💙
Dang glo got a fresh fade 💈💇🏾
Nice trucks the super pro 3 look chill
I actually have an old pair of gulwings, and I think they are the pro 3. I was given them in the early 90s from my friend's brother who used to skate for H-street. They've seen better days but I think they're in my parents attic, if you really want them let me know.
The ones you were looking at in the 70s article are trucks for Quad Skates/Roller skates & or penny boards. That’s why they’re so small. The ones you’re skating in the video are re-issues, they are split Axel trucks designed for cruiser boards or downhill & slalom skating, they’re not designed for grinding. Gullwing is known for mostly making cruiser & longboard trucks. They do have one model that is your more traditional skateboard truck & that would be the Shadow model series. Tracker trucks & Indy were probably the major truck companies along with Gullwing. Tracker trucks makes great modern trucks, as well as Indy for ages. Gullwing sorta stayed in the cruiser & longboard realm with the exception of the Shadow model trucks for regular skateboarding.
I rode Street Shadow 2's in 90/91 😊👍
I remember Gullwing trucks being pretty popular in the 80's. Slimeball wheels, on Gullwings, on a Psyco Stick. Top knotch.
I had OJs on my setup with the gullwing trucks
Gabe definitely out of his mind in this one 🤣
I feel old now… thanx🤓👍
GABE......... I'm hurt
"Modern skateboarding is not as cool as it was in the 80s........." I think someone needs to be taken to school.. ;-)
As a daily consumer of Braille Content... and an almost 50 yo (yet this video makes me feel I'm 85), still jumping on my board whenever possible, old man. Don't forget why...... skateparks were built. Because all of us skaters in the 80s destroyed so many curbs, parking blocks, planters, ledges, rails, pool coping.... so on and so forth. The skate parks with Angle Iron grew.... those skater blocks put on crubs and rails to stop the grinding and board sliding were invented. I think you would be pretty surprised how much you don't know. ;- )
But I still LIke You and The Entire Team! So I PROPOSE a new segment.
GABE and BRAILLE Team react to Skateboard Videos (or segments of videos) from the 80s and 90s. My immediate suggestions, and my fellow Old Skoolers can let them know as well, are as follows:
1. H-Street Shackle-Me-Not (.........Matt..... who .....Matt... Matt Hensley! Riding those same Gullwings)
2. Powell Peralta Public Domain (Those incredible Rubber Boys!)
3. Powell Peralta Ban This (Cab teaches you the perfect line)
4. Santa Cruz Streets on Fire (NATAS...... nuff said)
5. Santa Cruz Reason for Living (Dressen.... still smooth AF!)
Check out the pioneers of Grinds! ;- ) And another challenge to follow. A game of skate based on what you witness on the video!
1.....2.....3.....Shoot!
Lmao! You guys are to funny! I still ride these and g&s,og indys and you are rite,skateboarding in the 80's was way funner,all the different shapes it was just rad,im glad old skool decks are coming back,and those g wings are more for vert ramp coping,cheers!
I am old enough to say I used to skate these. Gullwing magnesium I had that skated down to the axle showing bigtime and they still didn't break.
You should totally try to get your hands on the old Z Roller trucks, they had an axel that actually rolled, for grinds
i might have a pair of z rollers at my dads house, I bet they are worth money!!
I've got some 1980s trucks on my 1980s board. They still work fine. Wish I could say the same.
Had a set off those in green, even with the light weight bases.
15:14 "Doug! Doug! Doug! Doug! Doug!" I always appreciate some Doug Des Autels action
The growth was we went to the newer ones that work best
Glo look like a Naruto character turned cuhhh 😂😂
I loved this video it made me laugh lots of times keep it up braille content never disappoints
I have some Grind King G2s hanging around ....they were on an ancient complete someone gave me a while back! 13:09 The Chicken Teriyaki Kyro Special, you love to hear it
I skated gullwings. I also had a pair of magnesium, they were my favorites.
i have some stage 6 indys and santa cruz 0jII 60mm wheels from late '80s on a cruiser setup. gullwings are sick, i have a set of level 3s from mid '90s and some sidewinder IIs. gullwing had some of the best pros of all time, ben schroeder, chris miller, jeff phillips
I was in the Gullwing Army. You have to remember that skating started in pools and ramps before it went to the streets.
I worked at Rodolpho's Amsterdam back inthe 80', yup sold plenty of those trucks. I was lucky enough to have been a sponsored vert. Roller skater. I got to test out many stuff f.e the Indeependent pre production straigth Ermico base-plates which brroke after 4 months abuse, then got the upgraded left right Ermico base plates, that I abused AF for over 10 years but they never broke. But enough about that, try to obtain a Hobyflex park machine ( it's big wide and heavy 'a door' lol) .
Have you guys ever skatea freestyle skateboard (A Powell Rodney Mullen modell, with my favo trucks the Indy 101's? If you havent please go retro, for those who dont know Rodney Mullen is the Goat of skateboarrding.
Luv u guys content!
Thanks
I had the gullwings with the plastic base
Independent trucks made rollerskate baseplates too. I used to skate with a guy in ‘79 who had 131 hangers on his and skated ‘surf stance’
I wish Andy was there he would have the entire history about the trucks, why they was made, the first skater who rode them 🤣🤣
Very true
Gullwing trucks, I had a pair in black. They came in neon colors, I liked the lime green.
You guys need an original full 80's board set up (including rails and risers) and skate the full Braile house including the vert ramp 😜👍
Another Amazon trucks wheels is back to build really different creativity and balance of holding on a obstacle than the other trucks are original of a standard version trucks
I skated both Gullwing and Independent trucks. They did the job. Still have an old setup laying around somewhere
I had that gullwing truck, but with a plastic base. They were great back then.
back when those came out you did 50=50 by grinding in the middle, cross lock is new.
I got to try these things too!!
Id love to ride at that park!
You guys got that link right?
The groove is amazing on parking blocks - but u gotta flip the kingpin
Wow I remember them gull wing was top notch back in the day only problem with them was when you lock in it was are to get them unlock which cause a lot of bailing and face plant lol
I forget who makes them but there’s trucks that have a slight arch to them so you properly lock in easier.
Had a set of Gullwings for my first setup ever in 1997. They were indestructrible and got handed down to several different skaters over time.
I had those trucks back in 87-88. Id still skate em!
gullwings orange or yellow 'fluor paint'. yep. 80's. swap bushes from stock white to the harder red ones. Very first kingpin too.)
@11:22 not slalom being pronounced slaylom 😅
I had these trucks in 91. Not bad :)
Gullwings did rule the scene for a while. Especially with Giant G-Bones on a Corey O'Brien by Santa Cruz.
You guys need to tryout the bamboo with carbon fiber 5ply board
We broke so many pair of these trucks back in the 80’s. We did think you were supposed to grind in the middle of the trucks
Nug always has cool grip tape
another great Amazon review video yeeeew
Dang. Taking me back to the days of Powell and Peralta. I had those original trucks made by Goldwing in the 80’s. They went from a Powell deck to a Valtera after awhile. I think the bearings I used back then weren’t as great as the Reds used later on.
I have these on my Powell McGill from 1989/90. Mine have the thick plastic baseplate.
The board I rode until my late thirties (some 20 years ago) was a 10inch Alva with green kryptonics and ACS 651 trucks. Hows that for old!
I've just started skating again after 24 years! My boy is taking a shine to it and I thought, "I wonder"? Turns out I can still do allot 🤣🤣. Unfortunately my knees don't think so, but I will pull them in line. Anyway, love the content.
Video starts at 6:04
I bought a couple pairs of these a year ago I like them.
The divot wasn't there to grind. I was there to make them lighter.
In the 80s these truck were for grinding on the top coping of half pipe few skaters were grinding flat ground rails at that time.
You mean the best trucks ! Gullwing for life
Yes mogley they were great when they came out
Gabes eyebrows moved in with his mustache.😶🌫️🙃 much love
had those on my tony hawk mini transition skating setup in 86
They were meant for doing long 5050s on vert ramps. I had a set of their predecessors, the Gullwing Phoenix, back when Gonz was still on Vision.
Wow rad
You should try titan ti-lite trucks I think there titanium, they use to have them in the late 90’s. I had a semi run my board over and it didn’t do anything to the trucks and it was ran over by 4 wheels
they look pretty sick
i always liked the way gull wings looked but i was strictly indy. i had a set of trackers that broke and i was strictly indy after that. i had a set of san diegos back in the early 90s and they were the best but they stopped making them.
You need to put Copers on those trucks... i had them in the 80s..same trucks .neon green hangers and baseplates on a green tony hawk 80s deck lol..
Gabe is toasted.. haha feel you brother
You should do a series skating through the history of different skateboard parts