I had a guy earlier rage in chat about missing a hurricane that would have won him the game, but before that I missed a hurricane and a hydro pump back to back when either would have won me the game sooner which he conveniently forgot about
@@CancerGaming_yeah even with the shitty accuracy, hurricane is usually a better choice. 70% chance of a 110 power move leads to an expected power of 77, which is still higher than air slash
the idea is you will fire off many hurricanes in one game because your bird probably has roost and defensive EVs. the upside is enormous if you're expecting to use 5+ in a game. even with bad luck where more than half miss, just one lucky confusion can end the game. across many games i.e. if you're laddering the average upside is enormous. but it can easily lose you 1x tournament game. the other downsides: - sun (rare) lowering accuracy to 50% - kilowattrel (RU) switching in to this move and gaining a boost - terrible vs substitute pokemon - slowking-G removing the rain you might've been using and as said above, defensive flying types don't have better moves to spam. if they had something more like scald maybe they'd use that.
@@eyeborg3148fr. I remember on school-high school hearing his name since is so rememberable. now im pushing 20 and bro is still there, theres nothing wrong to have hobbies but bro takes this game wayy too seriously for someone pushing 30
"your opponent" you know that's finchinator right? He's the council leader of OU lol he's not just some random guy. He's one of the only dudes in this community actually trying to help the game.
Why do people always do “if x hit then y would have happened”? Like…then don’t play Pokémon if you don’t want to play a game with rng? And I can use his analogy on everything. “Oh man if only the ball landed on red instead of bIack I would have won so much so much money on roulette!” Yeah no shit.
not finch complaining about the hurricane miss when his ass got the two gunk shot rolls, the miss and the poison dodge that wouldve put i him in range the first time
Looked like you were in the back for most of the game yet you find your win con and work towards that so flawlessly. Honestly impressive. Very well played, Freezai!
I believe you deserve the win, he was playing off a 70% move to secure the win or at least gain the momentum needed to take it. While you were playing off gunk shots which has a higher accuracy so technically your odds were higher. On top of that he got two low rolls plus dodged poison which would have secured you the win regardless.
Blames the game on missing hurricane while freezai missed an ice hammer and lost 2 rolls on sandaconda with gunk shot with no poison too. The reason he lost was because he clicked flamethrower instead of hyper voice, and lost the taunt 50/50
This game wasn't played out poorly, but I think you realized that Appletun was your wincon a bit too late. If you had taunted the sandaconda the turn it first went for rest it would've negated any kind of rng risks you wound up finding in the end game. It was still a fun game to watch nonetheless, and I look forward to watching your future matches!
Freezai is probably not super well experienced with current gen NU. I mean he had been doing VGC this year along with WCOP. Probably hasn't had that much experience with NU.
finch. man. i respect you a lot and youre obviously a phenomenal player in your own right, but you dont get to complain about being unlucky in this game considering what happened with freezai's qwilfish lol.
i dont watch tournaments live so i kinda assumed finchinator being the ou leader was a nice dude lmao what a jackass. he gets saved by a 10% miss and two low rolls, all 3 of which drastically changed the game, and cried that one 30% miss on a specially defensive monster at high health is the reason he lost and complains instead off gging back
Crabominable is surprisingly not too awful in OU from my experiences. I wouldn’t use it on any team willingly, but I used a randomized team with it and it reminded me of using Crawdaunt in past generations.
@@misteral9045All I can say is most people don't know how to use glass Cannon pokemon properly. I used to steamroll teams in gen 5 with Rampardos because you kinda have to build a team around them, wittle down their priority users.
@@athyestic8374 So for the majority of its competitive life, has Crawdaunt spent the majority of its time in or out of OU? And, if any, is it used on a wide variety of teams with several move sets/items, or is it a specialized mon who does one thing on one kind of team?
finch was maldin that game, you only see bad rng when it happens to you so I guess he didn’t see how lucky he was getting, plus like you’re running hurricane you kinda need to expect some misses
I've slapped life orb crabominable on an OU team with trick room teleport gardevoir (most useful mon with these 2 moves, trace also let me power gamer outplay specs thundurus therian twice so you know its the best mon in the tier) and it does tend to pick up 3 kos per switch in
This was fun! I see lots of comments about finch's salt, tho I see no problem. It's only an issue when you openly insult and flame the other person. Let's not be upset when people express their emotions in a reasonable way :) ggs
how tf finch gonna whinge about a hurricane miss when you missed like 2 gunks, missed 2 ranges with gunks you did hit, and missed an ice hammer at the start lmao
gg wp, you do a great job taking up new formats and that’s shown across VGC, OU, and NU recently! To the dozens of commenters mad at me being upset, this game virtually eliminated my team and I really liked my spot if I connected. Appletun is forced to Tera Steel or be left close to dead - former means Sanda is in an awesome spot and latter makes it very hard for me to lose. I didn’t say anything insulting to freezai or anyone else - was just upset at the game like countless others have been. I don’t think there’s anything wrong with that; a lot of people are passionate about the game and sometimes it can bite. Obviously if you personally insult someone or degrade them, that’s another thing. But what’s the harm in being sad over the game? Gl next week
I feel like the main thing is that you could’ve just said something like “ahh that miss was unfortunate, gg” instead ur wording is basically like saying “you know you didn’t deserve that win and got bailed out right?” Even if that was not the intention that’s what most people watching are hearing. Just explaining the commenters point of view, doesn’t matter much either way.
Your sandaconda was lucky to have even made it that far considering that it got 2 gunk shot low rolls AND it dodged any further chip that crab was gonna put onto it.
To be honest the wording is the problematic part here, not the fact that you're mad at bad rng (but is 30% that unlikely anyway?...). Your message was pretty passive-aggressive and salty, as it basically was asking your opponent to recognize that his win was undeserved - which it is not. Not an insult per se, but it was definitely much more than just "you being sad about the game", and I felt it was rather insulting as a result. "Too bad for the miss, would have won me the game" would have been more correct to freezai. tldr: it's ok in the heat people get salty over stupid stuff and say bad things, but you can just admit it was not a super correct/fairplay reaction and not just "being sad" and apologize to freezai
@@bluemaku4456Im guessing that the value out of not having to deal with rocks(or any hazards) every switch in is more than the leftys recovery each turn apple is in
@@bluemaku4456it already has recover + leech for recovery so you value more not taking hazard chip, specially since defog scyther is far from reliable
@@peperoni9757 Double checked and apparently he's half Czech and half American. I had heard him talk about being Czech before and he lives in Prague so I assumed he just had immigrant parents or something.
People making fun of Finch for being mad when we all know most, keyword most of the peeps making fun of Finch would be either whiny in chat or whiny to themselves no matter what. Not defending him here, just saying it's rude ragging the man over being mad. This game is salt inducing.
I believe you deserve the win, he was playing off a 70% move to secure the win or at least gain the momentum needed to take it. While you were playing off gunk shots which has a higher accuracy so technically your odds were higher. On top of that he got two low rolls plus dodged poison which would have secured you the win regardless.
+ the initial hammer. him saying the hurricane hitting would have prevented the lucky gunk shots misses is so stupid, he literally got rng’d out of the situation HE got himself in after missing the 70% move
you would think for a tier leader, finchinator would bitch a lot less about rng considering the gunk shot and ice hammer misses, and the rolls on sandaconda
freezai being in the zone when thinking about his plays whilst finch is malding in chat is one of the funniest things ive seen today
It’s like he meditates while thinking
So true 😂
"I think we both know if I hit that hurricane" like you didn't miss two ranges on Sandaconda
Yea he was very salty, just say gg and move on
And the ice hammer miss
And a gunk miss.
I never liked him
I had a guy earlier rage in chat about missing a hurricane that would have won him the game, but before that I missed a hurricane and a hydro pump back to back when either would have won me the game sooner which he conveniently forgot about
"Unfortunate" doesnt even begin to describe Finchinator's time playing NU.
Insert Shakespearean monologue
Dude's waffling in the chat as if his Sandaconda didn't squeak out two lucky survives plus the ice hammer and gunk shot misses
If you don't wanna miss hurricane, don't use hurricane.
~~use air slash or sue cutter instead!~~
I don't want to say "ugh typical Finch" or "that's not like him" because I don't know him like that, but man Finchinator was bitching in this one
Naa that’s just finch being finch
I didn't realize this guy was so famous.
@@jonathanlgill He's the OU tier Leader.
@@jonathanlgillto say finchinator is really good at the game is an understatement.
He’s consistently a tier leader.
B*tchinator
I feel like some people shouldn't build teams with 70 accuracy moves, for their own well-being.
crappy thing about some pokemon moves, the only move before hurricane is air slash which has like 2/3 the dmg
@@CancerGaming_yeah even with the shitty accuracy, hurricane is usually a better choice. 70% chance of a 110 power move leads to an expected power of 77, which is still higher than air slash
@@TheMurrmursonbottleAnd that 5% miss chance is so fake, air slash hits as much as Rock slide
the idea is you will fire off many hurricanes in one game because your bird probably has roost and defensive EVs. the upside is enormous if you're expecting to use 5+ in a game. even with bad luck where more than half miss, just one lucky confusion can end the game. across many games i.e. if you're laddering the average upside is enormous. but it can easily lose you 1x tournament game.
the other downsides:
- sun (rare) lowering accuracy to 50%
- kilowattrel (RU) switching in to this move and gaining a boost
- terrible vs substitute pokemon
- slowking-G removing the rain you might've been using
and as said above, defensive flying types don't have better moves to spam. if they had something more like scald maybe they'd use that.
The worst thing is that some pokemon have no other options
cringed so hard watching finch complain about rng as if his sandaconda didnt get saved twice in a row on low rolls
And the ice hammer miss on switch in. If finch has less than 34 evs in speed crB outspeeds and 2hkos after rocks does 29 min
he always cries over rng, unexpected from a player WHO's playing since 2014
to be fair appletun was a lot more important than sandaconda team matchup wise
If sandaconda died appletun coudlve tera steeled and walled articuno
none of the gunk shots poisoned either. finch avoided huge rng early on that wouldve literally ended the match on the spot lol
your mentality and patience is truly something to admire Freezai, never change
I expected a tier leader to be ... less salty?
He was sooooo mad and for what
literally
Especially when you know this battle is going to YT for all to see 😂
Looks like smogon tier leaders have the temperament of Reddit mods. Same demographic probably
@@eyeborg3148fr. I remember on school-high school hearing his name since is so rememberable. now im pushing 20 and bro is still there, theres nothing wrong to have hobbies but bro takes this game wayy too seriously for someone pushing 30
I think you should use Garganacl next because your opponent could use some Salt Cure.
😂😂
Well, a Naclstack, Garganacl is OU
Nothing will ever cure finchinators salt lmao
"your opponent" you know that's finchinator right? He's the council leader of OU lol he's not just some random guy. He's one of the only dudes in this community actually trying to help the game.
@@N0GG1NDoesn't change the fact he was salty (this was a crucial game and losing due to a miss is pretty unfortunate but still)
Freezai misses Ice hammer
"or that"
Freezai misses gunk shot
"That's bound to happen"
Finchinator misses hurricane
"WAAAAAAAAAAAH U BAD BG WIN DON'T COUNT"
The virgin Finchinator vs The goat Freezai
@@Steph_Nfreezai keeps taking the W
+ freezai got two roll of gunk shot that could kill but didn't
Why do people always do “if x hit then y would have happened”?
Like…then don’t play Pokémon if you don’t want to play a game with rng?
And I can use his analogy on everything.
“Oh man if only the ball landed on red instead of bIack I would have won so much so much money on roulette!”
Yeah no shit.
That was an extremly exciting game. halfway through I was really starting to doubt you could turn it around
finch getting salty is so funny lmaooooo
not finch complaining about the hurricane miss when his ass got the two gunk shot rolls, the miss and the poison dodge that wouldve put i
him in range the first time
Looked like you were in the back for most of the game yet you find your win con and work towards that so flawlessly. Honestly impressive. Very well played, Freezai!
Why is Finch complaining about his bad luck but Freezai had some as well, just say gg and move or learn instead of being salty and stuff
I believe you deserve the win, he was playing off a 70% move to secure the win or at least gain the momentum needed to take it. While you were playing off gunk shots which has a higher accuracy so technically your odds were higher. On top of that he got two low rolls plus dodged poison which would have secured you the win regardless.
*uses innaccurate move*
*move misses*
Finchinator: "bro wtf hax!!1!"
Blames the game on missing hurricane while freezai missed an ice hammer and lost 2 rolls on sandaconda with gunk shot with no poison too.
The reason he lost was because he clicked flamethrower instead of hyper voice, and lost the taunt 50/50
Freezai ignoring him crying in chat is so funny
Man finch complaining was wild as if he was the unlucky one
Damn didn’t realize finch was such a neck beard
He's the ou tier leader lmao. What'd u expect.
Thank god Goatzai posted
Sandaconda would’ve been dead if the ice hammer landed. That chip mattered, Fish would’ve gotten the KO the first time..
finch try not to complain challenge (impossible)
This game wasn't played out poorly, but I think you realized that Appletun was your wincon a bit too late. If you had taunted the sandaconda the turn it first went for rest it would've negated any kind of rng risks you wound up finding in the end game. It was still a fun game to watch nonetheless, and I look forward to watching your future matches!
Freezai is probably not super well experienced with current gen NU. I mean he had been doing VGC this year along with WCOP. Probably hasn't had that much experience with NU.
finch. man. i respect you a lot and youre obviously a phenomenal player in your own right, but you dont get to complain about being unlucky in this game considering what happened with freezai's qwilfish lol.
Flinchinator try not to whine hint impossible
21.6% chance to miss at least 2 out of 3 hurricanes. If something is going to happen every 1 in 5 games, it shouldn't be that surprising.
when u miss 3 times in a row thats bad luck but once is just normal for a 70% move
i dont watch tournaments live so i kinda assumed finchinator being the ou leader was a nice dude lmao what a jackass. he gets saved by a 10% miss and two low rolls, all 3 of which drastically changed the game, and cried that one 30% miss on a specially defensive monster at high health is the reason he lost and complains instead off gging back
People be runing 70% moves an then complaint about miss smh
Crabominable is surprisingly not too awful in OU from my experiences. I wouldn’t use it on any team willingly, but I used a randomized team with it and it reminded me of using Crawdaunt in past generations.
And Crawdaunt has also been pretty bad. 😭
@@misteral9045All I can say is most people don't know how to use glass Cannon pokemon properly. I used to steamroll teams in gen 5 with Rampardos because you kinda have to build a team around them, wittle down their priority users.
@@yeahyeahwowman8099 No one asked for all that you can say, nor is pubstomping the low level ladder of any significance.
well no this is demonstrably untrue, Crawdaunt has seen at least some tournament usage and is generally really scary on rain
@@athyestic8374 So for the majority of its competitive life, has Crawdaunt spent the majority of its time in or out of OU? And, if any, is it used on a wide variety of teams with several move sets/items, or is it a specialized mon who does one thing on one kind of team?
HISUIAN QWILFISHHHHH
finch may have gotten unlucky with the hurricanes but you got unlucky with sandaconda living gunkshot twice
Hammer miss too
@@muk_is_superiorand shed skin
finch was maldin that game, you only see bad rng when it happens to you so I guess he didn’t see how lucky he was getting, plus like you’re running hurricane you kinda need to expect some misses
I've slapped life orb crabominable on an OU team with trick room teleport gardevoir (most useful mon with these 2 moves, trace also let me power gamer outplay specs thundurus therian twice so you know its the best mon in the tier) and it does tend to pick up 3 kos per switch in
Ik finch bout to read through these comments
spoiler: he did and he got cooked 😭
This was fun! I see lots of comments about finch's salt, tho I see no problem. It's only an issue when you openly insult and flame the other person. Let's not be upset when people express their emotions in a reasonable way :) ggs
Bro was not being reasonable 💀
Crying salty babbbbbbeeee haha it was great to watch
bro expected a move with focus blast accuracy to hit consistently.
Perfect end cut.
Chocie band, Gorila tactics, tera ice, ice hammer
Seeing qwilfish scare articuno out is really funny to me.
Crabominal
I didn’t know Finch was such a whining baby lol
Freezai beating big stall leader
Flinchinator is known to be a salty crybaby. No wonder he wined so much, he was lucky af with gunk shot, ice hanner and 2 fucking ranges on sandaconda
how tf finch gonna whinge about a hurricane miss when you missed like 2 gunks, missed 2 ranges with gunks you did hit, and missed an ice hammer at the start lmao
Hey Freezai what extensions do you use for showdown to see the possible moves on random battles and have the damage calcs shown?
Why didn't you taunt on sandaconda when you thought it would rest??
lol every time u played finchinator he always complaining about something
finch continues his losing streak against youtubers lol
Nothing makes me smile more than watching Finchinator get destroyed, what a loser :D
GLORY TO BIG STALL ™️! GLORY TO THE COUNCIL! GLORY TO FINCHINATOR!
gg wp, you do a great job taking up new formats and that’s shown across VGC, OU, and NU recently!
To the dozens of commenters mad at me being upset, this game virtually eliminated my team and I really liked my spot if I connected. Appletun is forced to Tera Steel or be left close to dead - former means Sanda is in an awesome spot and latter makes it very hard for me to lose.
I didn’t say anything insulting to freezai or anyone else - was just upset at the game like countless others have been. I don’t think there’s anything wrong with that; a lot of people are passionate about the game and sometimes it can bite. Obviously if you personally insult someone or degrade them, that’s another thing. But what’s the harm in being sad over the game?
Gl next week
I feel like the main thing is that you could’ve just said something like “ahh that miss was unfortunate, gg” instead ur wording is basically like saying “you know you didn’t deserve that win and got bailed out right?” Even if that was not the intention that’s what most people watching are hearing. Just explaining the commenters point of view, doesn’t matter much either way.
Guys I swear it was legit over if he hit the hurricane
Your sandaconda was lucky to have even made it that far considering that it got 2 gunk shot low rolls AND it dodged any further chip that crab was gonna put onto it.
@@oofjeff3735 you realize the sandaconda living either was after the Hurricane, and at the time it was over half health?
To be honest the wording is the problematic part here, not the fact that you're mad at bad rng (but is 30% that unlikely anyway?...). Your message was pretty passive-aggressive and salty, as it basically was asking your opponent to recognize that his win was undeserved - which it is not. Not an insult per se, but it was definitely much more than just "you being sad about the game", and I felt it was rather insulting as a result. "Too bad for the miss, would have won me the game" would have been more correct to freezai.
tldr: it's ok in the heat people get salty over stupid stuff and say bad things, but you can just admit it was not a super correct/fairplay reaction and not just "being sad" and apologize to freezai
Finch was truly pathetic
Feel like Brave bird would be a great option for the sake of him not getting salty on a cane missing
Ffs finch
I'm sorry, was that heavy-buty boots appletun? Boy, the boots being on just random mons is just crazy to me
He’s gotta get his pie feet warm and safe. It’s a cold cold world
Can some one explain to me why heavy-duty over leftovers or something Else?
@@bluemaku4456Im guessing that the value out of not having to deal with rocks(or any hazards) every switch in is more than the leftys recovery each turn apple is in
@@bluemaku4456 Makes pivoting easier because you don't take hazard damage.
@@bluemaku4456it already has recover + leech for recovery so you value more not taking hazard chip, specially since defog scyther is far from reliable
Why is finchinator so whiny 😭
wait were you not team india the world cup before this one?
Probably some form of Indian American so he gets along with both sides
people will also just kinda play for whoever they want sometimes lol. BKC is european but played for US because all his friends were on that team
That’s true. Freezai do be brown tho
@@jacksonsmith2955BKC is european? he talks like an american
@@peperoni9757 Double checked and apparently he's half Czech and half American. I had heard him talk about being Czech before and he lives in Prague so I assumed he just had immigrant parents or something.
You were more unlucky than finch. Idk why hes so salty its a high risk high reward move if you want it to hit use rain you cant rely on that to win
>Star Pokémon
>Gets name mispronounced
Cringeinator
Slayy
People who cant take unlucky losses shouldnt play pokemon. Every single round has the potential to be unlucky for you.
People making fun of Finch for being mad when we all know most, keyword most of the peeps making fun of Finch would be either whiny in chat or whiny to themselves no matter what. Not defending him here, just saying it's rude ragging the man over being mad. This game is salt inducing.
Crabominable is so forgettable that you spelled it wrong in the video you used it in
Finch is cringe
First
Bro is bitching about a 70% accurate move and also where tf is his dark and ghost resist??????
"If i hit that cane"
Ok bro but you didnt 💀
I believe you deserve the win, he was playing off a 70% move to secure the win or at least gain the momentum needed to take it. While you were playing off gunk shots which has a higher accuracy so technically your odds were higher. On top of that he got two low rolls plus dodged poison which would have secured you the win regardless.
+ the initial hammer. him saying the hurricane hitting would have prevented the lucky gunk shots misses is so stupid, he literally got rng’d out of the situation HE got himself in after missing the 70% move
Finch is so corny man lmao. Bro got bailed out on his sandaconda twice and still cries about 70% hurricane grow up buddy freezai owns you
!
so true
Hah, flinch got salty for missing 2 canes but conveniently forgets about 2 rolls + ice hamner miss on conda .
Seeing finchinator raging in chat made the win so much better
Finch is so pressed lmao
Love seeing the opponent get so salty in messages. Take the L gracefully
Crabo is one of few mons which needed just a li'l push to be broken/op
But unfort it didn't get that push ice/fighting one hack of offensive typing
King of ou getting salty when he's out of his element lmao
The crab strikes again! I love your videos Freezai, good luck!
Finchinator not using big stall
If you can't handle moves missing, don't pick moves with 70% accuracy lmao
Unexpected behaviour here from Finch. No idea why they're basically being such a little bih.
Like, my brother in christ, you chose to run hurricane.
what a crying baby finch is lmao
bro crying over rng in an game about skill and rng. What's new?
Lmao grow up finch
finch is simply worse
18:32 bro needs to pipe down that his low accuracy move missed once boo hoo
Finch making himself look a fool.
flinchinator being salty
I remember playing against this guy! Glad to see he is still salty about evetything! And just now i realized his name wasnt flinchinator.
bro was so mad as if you didnt miss hella gunks and as if he didnt get outplayed even with the lucky low rolls on sandaconda
I hate anyone that shortens words for no reason so im glad that stupid "cane" player lost lmao
My luck is like both Finch’s and Freezai’s, I miss all my moves and don’t get any good roles
I once missed draco, twave and leaf storm all in one game. Opponent forfeited out of pity and told me to have a nice rest of my day
@@theschnozzlerAbsolute W opponent
@@SERMareep2007 ik, shows that the community isn't as toxic as certain UA-camrs make it seem
He started against finchinator damn
you would think for a tier leader, finchinator would bitch a lot less about rng considering the gunk shot and ice hammer misses, and the rolls on sandaconda
Its a good thing he puts most of his personal bias away when considering suspects
yes