Had that happen once as well, I wound up, setting it down on a grid Road. Over one set of powerlines and under another… Full game on pucker. Certainly pay more attention to emergency landing spots as I fly now. I just found your channel, great content!
Sounds similar to my childhood. My uncle owned and operated a crop dusting service in Atmore, Alabama (0R1). He also managed the airport for 30+ years. I grew up on the ramp and hangers around there. I believe it was the best of times. He’s passed on now and I miss him and the good times we had. Love your channel!
Ay hello! As a kid I always loved when Mike godwin sprayed the fields around our house, that radial engine would shake the world lol. I fly Paramotors in the area and over his old hanger and runway all the time (: I'm at 0R1 in the evenings quite a bit working on my air-coupe (:
Nice airplane. I grew up on a farm on the KS/MO line 12 mi southeast of OJC. I flew spray planes all over KS. Left the area in 1984 for my job. I still have the Champ I soloed from that farm strip. Your videos make me miss home.
Been watching a few videos this AM and yours is the most interesting and exciting of all! And I add it is very well done technically. Glad it all worked out so well for you.
So glad you are ok brother! Thank goodness for the STOL plane and great piloting skills. My Dad had his private pilot’s license 30 years ago. I love flight!
@@noelnajera9993 Thanks Noel. I appreciate it. I’m a low hour private pilot and that was pretty intense. Definitely going to start practicing some simulated engine outs when I get this fuel issue figured out. Thanks again.
The best flying time is definitely right before dawn and again right before dusk. Flew in my dad's Luscomb back in the late 60s to mid-70s. He kept his plane on our farm, and I remember many times hearing the engine kick over and there goes dad still dressed in his PJs going for a 150-200-mile flight at 6 am on a summer morning. The air is so smooth and quiet.
Been many years since I have been in the air. Those bean fields after harvest make great emergency landing spots, corn fields are another matter. Great job 😀
Glad you made it down safely. I was an engineer with SkyStar Aircraft Corporation from 1993 until 2004. I love the Kitfox! I now live not too far from you in Pea Ridge, Arkansas. I hope to meet you and Lenny Fox sometime.
@@cptzoom Absolutely David. You aren’t far at all from Pittsburg. I’ll be grounded for awhile trying to figure out this fuel issue but we need to meet up when I get back up in the air again. I have some Arkansas airstrips on my bucket list that I would like to hit next spring.
Craziest part was when I rolled to a complete stop my lower back muscles felt like I had tried to squat 500 lbs. I could barely get out of the airplane. I guess because I was tensed up so bad for those couple of minutes.
HI,great story about the build of the Kitfox, great airplane I learnt to fly in one back in 1989-90 in the desert at Alice Springs Australia, there is an old bomber airstrip called Bond Springs 20km north of Alice township great days, good wake up for all of us with the engine out well done. Dx
@@dtwyckoff Thanks and yes it was great fun we had a small club of 4 or 5 ultra lights that we would fly out bush on weekends camping on salt lakes and the like, flour bombing targets and other fun things, all the best fly safe Dx
Man, I’d love to fly again! Been 6yrs now. Trying to come up with a plan to get back at it! Kitfox, RANS look perfect for my needs. Glad you’re safe!! 🙏
@@petercarley9260 thank you. And yes, I was very lucky. Hopefully I won’t have to experience this ever again. It wasn’t a good feeling. Thanks for watching.
Great job dude! didn't break anything or hurt anyone! That's a win! and you still have a flying airplane! Hell of a job using your training and practice to get it on the ground!
I built a Model IV Kitfox that I have now been flying for several years. Every year during the condition inspection I raise the tail to flying attitude and measure the fuel flow AFTER the fuel filter. I have always had over 15 gallons per hour. This is just gravity flow. Then I change the filter. I figure that takes care of most of the fuel flow issues. from the tanks to the fuel pump. Nice landing!!
You are lucky man that there are so many fields in your area. The pilot and airplane are in a working condition and ready to take off again. Great life video. Thank you. My Sub for your incredible video.
Curious though why you didn’t climb more on the way back. If you know your engine is “iffy”, I’d want all the altitude I could get until the airfield was made.
@ actually I climbed to 2,500 on the way home. 5 mile flight. Once I knew I could make the runway I started my descent. You can actually see on my base leg when I’m over the buildings next to the airport that I’m at a much higher altitude (2,500)
For the entire 58hrs it took me to fly from CA to Oshkosh and back in '92 I was waiting for that Rotax 532 on the nose of my Kitfox Model 1 to crap out, but it didn't.
@@garyvanremortel5218 ok I’m impressed!! In a 582? How long did that take you? That’s incredible. Great job. Also, how many fuel stops? I need to up my game. Trying to talk myself into flying to OSH from KS. That definitely motivates me.
@@dtwyckoff Rotax 532, not 582. I built it back in '89. 58hrs round trip over eight days, VOR nav. I got the longest distance flown in award from Skystar. I'd have to drag out my log book, but too many stops to count. I had an extra 5gal in the seat next to me. Coming back from Casper to Rock Springs I was running on fumes due to headwind.
Thank you Mark. I'm a PSU grad also. Oh yeah these pits are a lot of fun. we have a rainbow trout pit now that is stocked every year over near West Mineral. The trout are good size also. I really enjoy it.
Nice plane! I used to own a Bushbaby, a South African version of the Kitfox, they are stunning planes! Looks like you got some contaminated fuel, best to flush the tanks and clean or replace the filters. Looking forward to your next video, thanks for sharing!
The bushbaby is a nice airplane. I follow a couple of UA-camrs that fly them. I believe you are correct. We are going to start there and try to diagnose the issue. A lot of people are saying it might be vapor lock also. Thanks for the kind words and advice. I appreciate it.
This is great. I never knew what the real meaning was behind that term. Thanks for sharing. And thanks for the kind words. Hopefully that's my last one I'll ever have to do.
Vader was indeed a good boy! Really cool to see the SEK countryside from the air. I used to live in Parsons, so a lot of this was pretty familiar. Really miss the area. Good to see you landed safely!
Nice job on the engine out. Did it glide/handle well with no engine vs at idle? I bet your glad you had those vortex generators installed! I fly a Kitfox 5 in SW Missouri. All the best sorting out your fuel issue.
Thank you. Yeah it handled really well and I got lucky. hardest part was finding a field with no cattle and or terraces. Thankfully the crops were just recently cut in this field also.
I fly out of Vinita and have had to put a couple in fields. You did a fantastic job. Glad it turned out well. I enjoy your videos we have a hunting cabin in Oswego my plane is there most weekends in November. I’m sure I will see you around I run with those guys from Lamar.
just found ur Channel new subscriber while not an Pilot I live 5 mins from my local airport & Luckily get to fly Right seat a good bit & Love to fly & Bush flying & such remote landings is an all new adventure iam ready to explore
@@stansbruv3169 yeah I agree. It always sounds like that on initial startup for a few seconds when the engine is cold. Then it finally sounds normal but I do agree that it does sound rough right when I initially star up
David, best to err on the side of caution. I would drain both wing tanks, clean the tank strainers and the gascolator at the firewall and/or filters at the low point in the fuel system, and then flush with some clean gas. Maybe have the carbs cleaned, too. You may have just got a load of bad gas, or there may be some degradation going on in your tanks. Ask some of the KF owners on the KF forum who have the older style tanks--they may can give you some answers. Also, I used to watch a KF vlogger who had to install some sort of vapor return line on his engine because he was getting vapor lock at high altitudes. He had a 912 ULS. Have you ever heard of that with the Rotax?
Great point. I think this is what we are going to do just to be safe and also for a peach of mind,. My engine and I have some serious trust issues now.
Just found and subscribed to your channel. Know your area well. Hauled grain out of your town years ago. Owned a Stinson and had to put it down due to a helicoil that spit a plug out. was eyeing a wet field with lots of water on the one side and when I looked left there was an airport. Did a tail wind landing that went just find. (wife not impressed). Didn't bother me until I woke up the next morning and thought I had better pay more attention of emergency sites to land.
That may very well have been the easiest emergency landing ever. I've had a tougher time doing engine out practice where the only place to land was an 800x50ft dirt strip carved out of a forest of mesquite, saguaro and ironwood. You need to practice your forward slip to perfection because you may need it some day to, you know, continue living when you have an engine fail in far less favorable circumstances. You don't give up energy until you have to. You make Newton and Bournelli your b*tch. You fly high and fast, not low and slow. But I have a soft spot for the Kitfox so I subbed anyway. Also, as an A&P, I totally knew it was going to be a clogged filter 5 minutes before you flashed it across the screen. You just have that vibe. You need to improve your mechanic skills in addition to your flying skills. You need to filter your mogas as you fuel the aircraft. And you absolutely must use a fuel stabilizer with modern mogas because of MTBE. I use Sta-bil 360. Buy it by the case. I'd also be running some Sea Foam through the fuel system every 50-100 hours. And I would go through all the fuel lines and check for degradation. I would check for corrosion. MTBE is a relentless corrosion promoter. It is especially bad with a fuel injected engine and can result in other causes of fuel starvation besides a clogged filter. I'm hardly a 912 expert but I did take a factory maintenance course and you have plenty of routine maintenance you need to be doing. Much easier for you to do it yourself as the builder but you really need to know more about what you're doing, maintenance-wise. I cannot stress enough the importance of following the maintenance manual to the letter.
@@Lurch-Bot I completely agree. I got really lucky with that huge field near me. Also, the land owner that drove out and checked on me said they just cut that corn and disked the field a couple weeks ago. Could’ve been a different outcome with a corn crop still in the field.
Apparently when anything stopped running my Grandfather would say"there'll be sht in the Carby" he passed when I was 3 . I guess your fuel systems due for a clean out ..... Gosh she glides nice too ! ♥️😉🙃😎 NZ
so, did your pre-flight inspection not pick up fuel contamination or was it not there then. Did you check the fuel before flight. Your going to have to flush all the fuel out, clean out the carby and probably take it apart to confirm its good to go.
Actually I did but there was nothing out of the ordinary. Just the small particles you normally get. We have discovered that I have a venting issue from my 2 gallon header tank to the wing tanks. I am hauling it to the mechanic at the end of the month to determine the problem and get it corrected. I'll be doing a follow up video with the finding hoping it will help someone else avoid this situation.
Yeah I remember meeting you guys at the Kitfox booth. I ordered the only VG's you can get from aircraft spruce. We did 2 inch I believe. They came with some detailed instructions and we actually installed them on the tail also. I can definitely tell the difference.
@@dtwyckoff what mounts are you using for your 360 pole on the droop tip screws? Guessing you are just running 1/2 conduit with a bolt end? Thanks for the info!
Thanks Brian, I sure hope it's my last one of these and I hope you never have to make a video like this. Thankful for all the fairground here in Kansas
Not fun when the donkey stops! Had it happen to me as well, fuel related issue. Nice KitFox 3 👍 I have one also here in Scotland with only 79h on the new 912 80hp I hope it don’t stop for a while 😀
@@Flyingscotsman79 thank you so much. Yeah it wasn’t fun that’s for sure. Definitely fuel related and we think it’s a venting issue. Taking it to a mechanic the end of Nov so I’ll be down for awhile. Need to get this figured out. Thanks again.
@@Flyingscotsman79 yes sir, mogas. I have a 1 gallon header tank behind the seat as well. That is what a lot of people are saying also. Have you ever had any vapor lock issues? My header tank behind the seat is vented to the 13 gallon wing tank on the copilot side. My pilot side has 7 gallons. I started the day with full fuel and flew about 1.5 hours. I still had 1/4 of a tank of gas on the right side when this happened also.
@ I have 2 tanks behind the seat, one is vented to the left wing tank and the other is vented to the right wing tank, the bigger tank in the rear has a level warning and so far I haven’t had any issues but I’m running ethanol free UL91 in mine. I think venting to both wing tanks is a good idea.
@@Flyingscotsman79 I agree. I need to look into this, It's definitely a venting issue. Also, fuel is being sucked out or pushed out of one side during flight. Check out the ending of my video "flight of 4 to hangar cafe" and you can see where fuel is spilling out of my wing. I show it when I land and I am back at the hangar. I need to install a low fuel warning light as well. Thank you for the advice.
Because I had 1,000 feet to live or die and my priority was landing safely which I successfully did. I also forgot to retract my flaps as well. It's very easy to sit back and point out things that were done wrong but until you are in this situation yourself you will never understand the stress you are under. My right hand never left the throttle and the left hand never left the stick. Flying off of muscle memory at this point and trying to safely land.
@@parkburrets4054 great question. This is the first time I have experienced something like this and I was planning on trying to land in the field right along side that road to my left but I realized I had to much airspeed and also altitude and would’ve hit the fence at the end so I banked it to the right where I had more room to bleed off the airspeed and lose altitude. Otherwise I would have kept it straight and set it down
Initially I thought I tried to restart it in the air but after looking at my camera footage I actually didn't. I guess I was concentrating on trying to find the correct field. Definitely fuel related issue. Cleaned the gascolator and dumped the other fuel check valves and cranked it over several times and it finally started back up.
Love your videos. But. I have to turn the volume up in order to hear your speech, and turn it back down for the music which seems to be a little high in volume. Thank you for the great content! Thanks for sharing!
Hopefully you did some investigating in the field and it got cut in editing. If you just decided it was good to go after starting and successfully doing some run up’s, you’re likely to be someone whose story is told rather than a story teller. Be safe out there. Take care
Oh yeah, I sat there with the engine running for nearly 15 minutes debating on whether or not I should fly it back home. You take care also. Appreciate it.
Wow - you mean didn't have to jump out and use your parachute that all pilots always wear just in case their engine fails? XD I'm kidding, obviously this is a reference to that moron a couple years ago. Well done!
@@doggonemess1 That's my throttle. Even though I couldn't use it for anything I was just flying off of muscle memory because I was so tensed up just trying to land.
David, hopefully you aren't running ethanol fuel--the early KF tanks won't stand up to the stuff. The newer tanks (after the KF 4 I think were made of different material. I would guess out in KS with all the farming y'all can get non-ethanol gas for the tractors and farm equipment. Also, I wonder if the previous owner had used some sloshing compound in the tanks. I think that can cause some problems too. Keep us posted!
@@josephpadula2283 Depends on what size you're looking at. In lawn/garden tractors, Ventrac and JD still produce gasoline tractors. In the larger? Look overseas and smaller manufacturers (like Oggun), but expect more to pop up soon with modern diesel emissions requirements. The big engine manufacturers (Kubota and the like) all have gas motors clearly designed for upcoming tractors.
@@wilmeaux12 I appreciate that. Definitely scared me. Luckily there were some farm fields. We are thinking it’s a venting issue with my fuel lines and also the fuel filter. I’ll definitely be doing a follow up video after the mechanic diagnoses the problem. Thanks again
Why didn't you show us the nasty fuel filter? I'd liked to have seen ALL of you standing there working on it.... it would have made it a lot more realistic seeing the cavalry out helping you get it started again. Guess you'll let us see the footage later, that's more than half the fun to me since I know you can land just about anywhere, that leaves the actual work behind the mishap....or not? peace
I just posted a follow up video on what happened and what the issue was. Guess I should've filmed more after the landing. Hoping it never happens again though.
@@dtwyckoff No no, I'm sure I wouldn't ever want to see it either.... this was the best case scenario, safe landing & you got her back up in the air and home. A storybook ending. I like seeing the nitty-gritty -n- sH!TTy that might cause it was all... I know what it is on a motorcycle but planes are a wee bit different in the upkeep & all. Wish you had it as that would be the "Story".... the what caused it story. Glad you were fortunate & I'll see ya on another, I'm sure. peace
@@MegaRickw nope. Didnt miss that at all. I do it every pre flight. The actual problem is my right wing tank not feeding the header tank. I posted a follow up video you should watch.
@ because of particles in the fuel, particles from fiberglass wing tanks. A number of things. That’s why it’s on the pre flight checklist and that’s why you do it every time.
what do you mean you don't know how it quit? you all ready said you cleaned the fuel filter and it started. so whats the big misery" trying for clicks?
That's correct, at the time it happened I dd not know why my engine quit on me in flight. BUT I was able to get it restated. No I did not purposely shut off my engine during flight you jack ass.
He probably wanted his mechanic to look it over so he knows for absolutely certain his assessment was correct. Until then he doesn’t know exactly what happened. He’s certainly not experienced enough to be doing something like this on purpose.
@@countysecession definitely don’t care if you do or not. Would never kill my engine in flight with only 65 hours of flight time so I really don’t care what you think. Go troll someone else’s channel
First time I watch your channel and you got an engine out, glad it all went well and you had plenty places to land on.
Thank you, me too. Hopefully this is the last time I have to experience this.
Had that happen once as well, I wound up, setting it down on a grid Road. Over one set of powerlines and under another… Full game on pucker. Certainly pay more attention to emergency landing spots as I fly now. I just found your channel, great content!
Appreciate it. Sounds like yours was a little more challenging. Glad it all worked out for you.
Sounds similar to my childhood. My uncle owned and operated a crop dusting service in Atmore, Alabama (0R1). He also managed the airport for 30+ years. I grew up on the ramp and hangers around there. I believe it was the best of times. He’s passed on now and I miss him and the good times we had. Love your channel!
Ay hello! As a kid I always loved when Mike godwin sprayed the fields around our house, that radial engine would shake the world lol. I fly Paramotors in the area and over his old hanger and runway all the time (:
I'm at 0R1 in the evenings quite a bit working on my air-coupe (:
Great way to grow up isn't it? Some of the best times of my life.
Nice airplane. I grew up on a farm on the KS/MO line 12 mi southeast of OJC. I flew spray planes all over KS. Left the area in 1984 for my job. I still have the Champ I soloed from that farm strip. Your videos make me miss home.
Thanks. Pretty neat you still have the Champ you soloed in. That's really cool
Damn that’s where I live now I fly out of IXD
Been watching a few videos this AM and yours is the most interesting and exciting of all! And I add it is very well done technically. Glad it all worked out so well for you.
Thank you for the kind words. I really appreciate it.
Good recovery and nicely handled. Hope the owners of the field okay and no issues there.
Thank you. Yes they completely understood and were very nice people. He was a pilot also so he knew the urgency. Thanks again.
I just love that dog! How great it is to have such a wonderful friend there!
So glad you are ok brother! Thank goodness for the STOL plane and great piloting skills. My Dad had his private pilot’s license 30 years ago. I love flight!
@@noelnajera9993 Thanks Noel. I appreciate it. I’m a low hour private pilot and that was pretty intense. Definitely going to start practicing some simulated engine outs when I get this fuel issue figured out. Thanks again.
man that is an amazing story of how you acquired the plane, its history, and you tell it well.
@@nrome49 thank you so much. I really appreciate the kind words.
First time watcher! Glad you kept flying the airplane all the way to the ground. Well done.
@@RudderMeThis thank you. It wasn’t a good feeling. Thanks again.
The best flying time is definitely right before dawn and again right before dusk. Flew in my dad's Luscomb back in the late 60s to mid-70s. He kept his plane on our farm, and I remember many times hearing the engine kick over and there goes dad still dressed in his PJs going for a 150-200-mile flight at 6 am on a summer morning. The air is so smooth and quiet.
Oh yeah, best time to fly for sure.
Been many years since I have been in the air. Those bean fields after harvest make great emergency landing spots, corn fields are another matter. Great job 😀
The farmer that came out and checked on me said they had just plowed up this corn field a couple weeks ago. I got lucky.
Do you drain the tank sumps and the gascolator before every flight? also when I use mogas I ALWAYS fill my cans with a Mr. filter funnel.
Sumps yes, gascolator no. I actually just got introduced to the Mr Funnel since I posted this video and bought me one. That thing is amazing
Glad you made it down safely. I was an engineer with SkyStar Aircraft Corporation from 1993 until 2004. I love the Kitfox! I now live not too far from you in Pea Ridge, Arkansas. I hope to meet you and Lenny Fox sometime.
@@cptzoom Absolutely David. You aren’t far at all from Pittsburg. I’ll be grounded for awhile trying to figure out this fuel issue but we need to meet up when I get back up in the air again. I have some Arkansas airstrips on my bucket list that I would like to hit next spring.
Glad it worked out and you did a great job staying calm and putting it down safely. I always wonder how I’ll react in that situation.
Craziest part was when I rolled to a complete stop my lower back muscles felt like I had tried to squat 500 lbs. I could barely get out of the airplane. I guess because I was tensed up so bad for those couple of minutes.
HI,great story about the build of the Kitfox, great airplane I learnt to fly in one back in 1989-90 in the desert at Alice Springs Australia, there is an old bomber airstrip called Bond Springs 20km north of Alice township great days, good wake up for all of us with the engine out well done. Dx
@@ro19gat that’s a neat story. I bet the old bomber airstrip was fun to fly out of. Thanks for kind words. Cheers.
@@dtwyckoff Thanks and yes it was great fun we had a small club of 4 or 5 ultra lights that we would fly out bush on weekends camping on salt lakes and the like, flour bombing targets and other fun things, all the best fly safe Dx
Man, I’d love to fly again! Been 6yrs now. Trying to come up with a plan to get back at it! Kitfox, RANS look perfect for my needs. Glad you’re safe!! 🙏
Thanks Shane, you definitely need to get back up in the air buddy.
@ I have a plan, my friend. I’m working hard! Lol. 🙏
Enjoyed this! you handled that really well. Man, you were lucky you were fairly high when it happened, and that there were plenty of fields around.
@@petercarley9260 thank you. And yes, I was very lucky. Hopefully I won’t have to experience this ever again. It wasn’t a good feeling. Thanks for watching.
Great job dude! didn't break anything or hurt anyone! That's a win! and you still have a flying airplane! Hell of a job using your training and practice to get it on the ground!
I built a Model IV Kitfox that I have now been flying for several years. Every year during the condition inspection I raise the tail to flying attitude and measure the fuel flow AFTER the fuel filter. I have always had over 15 gallons per hour. This is just gravity flow. Then I change the filter. I figure that takes care of most of the fuel flow issues. from the tanks to the fuel pump. Nice landing!!
Thank you. It was pretty nerve racking. And thanks for the advice on the fuel flow. I need to start doing this also.
You are lucky man that there are so many fields in your area. The pilot and airplane are in a working condition and ready to take off again. Great life video. Thank you. My Sub for your incredible video.
Thank you. I appreciate it. Hopefully I’ll never be in this situation ever again.
@@dtwyckoff I do my hope too. Take care👍
Glad you’re safe man! Great job.
Appreciate it. Thank you.
The takeoff after an engine issue is almost more nerve wracking
Definitely, the only reason I would say it was a somewhat feasible idea was the fact he was flying over ag fields a majority of the way back.
Absolutely. Thankfully I had all farmland the next 5 miles to the airport but it was still pretty nerve-racking.
Curious though why you didn’t climb more on the way back. If you know your engine is “iffy”, I’d want all the altitude I could get until the airfield was made.
@ actually I climbed to 2,500 on the way home. 5 mile flight. Once I knew I could make the runway I started my descent. You can actually see on my base leg when I’m over the buildings next to the airport that I’m at a much higher altitude (2,500)
@ hmm. Just hard to tell from the video I guess until you’re over the runway
Don’t forget to check your finger strainers in the fuel tanks. Seen a lot of them with fiberglass resin and sealer in them.
Good point. Thanks
For the entire 58hrs it took me to fly from CA to Oshkosh and back in '92 I was waiting for that Rotax 532 on the nose of my Kitfox Model 1 to crap out, but it didn't.
@@garyvanremortel5218 ok I’m impressed!! In a 582? How long did that take you? That’s incredible. Great job. Also, how many fuel stops? I need to up my game. Trying to talk myself into flying to OSH from KS. That definitely motivates me.
@@dtwyckoff Rotax 532, not 582. I built it back in '89. 58hrs round trip over eight days, VOR nav. I got the longest distance flown in award from Skystar. I'd have to drag out my log book, but too many stops to count. I had an extra 5gal in the seat next to me. Coming back from Casper to Rock Springs I was running on fumes due to headwind.
I went to PSU late 70’s..Great video content! Lots of good fishing holes in your area😊
Thank you Mark. I'm a PSU grad also. Oh yeah these pits are a lot of fun. we have a rainbow trout pit now that is stocked every year over near West Mineral. The trout are good size also. I really enjoy it.
"that sucked"😂
Glad you're okay!
HAHA> Had to keep it PG for my channel. Some other choice words might have been edited out. LOL
Nice plane! I used to own a Bushbaby, a South African version of the Kitfox, they are stunning planes! Looks like you got some contaminated fuel, best to flush the tanks and clean or replace the filters.
Looking forward to your next video, thanks for sharing!
The bushbaby is a nice airplane. I follow a couple of UA-camrs that fly them. I believe you are correct. We are going to start there and try to diagnose the issue. A lot of people are saying it might be vapor lock also. Thanks for the kind words and advice. I appreciate it.
Found you today. Glad that you landed safely. But that return flight must have caused some anxiety.
@@RWBHere it was the longest 6 mile flight of my life. I was so glad to see that runway and was relieved when I knew I was within gliding distance.
Glad you made it home safely. Makes me want to drain the gascolator on my colt every time I fly.
I think that might be a habit I get into now after this experience.
You did a great job. Glad it didn’t happen right after takeoff.
Nice landing with grain. Also in old days all the propellers were made of wood so when the engine went out you had a dead stick.
This is great. I never knew what the real meaning was behind that term. Thanks for sharing. And thanks for the kind words. Hopefully that's my last one I'll ever have to do.
Vader was indeed a good boy!
Really cool to see the SEK countryside from the air. I used to live in Parsons, so a lot of this was pretty familiar. Really miss the area. Good to see you landed safely!
@@SariahPendragon thank you so much. Vader wanted to go for a ride. Lol.
Nice job on the engine out. Did it glide/handle well with no engine vs at idle? I bet your glad you had those vortex generators installed! I fly a Kitfox 5 in SW Missouri. All the best sorting out your fuel issue.
Thank you. Yeah it handled really well and I got lucky. hardest part was finding a field with no cattle and or terraces. Thankfully the crops were just recently cut in this field also.
I fly out of Vinita and have had to put a couple in fields. You did a fantastic job. Glad it turned out well. I enjoy your videos we have a hunting cabin in Oswego my plane is there most weekends in November. I’m sure I will see you around I run with those guys from Lamar.
@@jaredmcclure6627 appreciate it. I believe I met you a couple fly ins possibly.
Good Job!. If that would have happened around here, your choices for landing spots are rocks, trees, or the river.
Thank you. I was super lucky. Definitely saying some extra prayers this week for sure.
just found ur Channel new subscriber while not an Pilot I live 5 mins from my local airport & Luckily get to fly Right seat a good bit & Love to fly & Bush flying & such remote landings is an all new adventure iam ready to explore
@@jmead6121 thanks awesome. It’s always fun to get up in the air. Even as a passenger. Thanks for following along.
That seemed pretty rough just starting up but I’m not sure how it’s supposed to sound.
@@stansbruv3169 yeah I agree. It always sounds like that on initial startup for a few seconds when the engine is cold. Then it finally sounds normal but I do agree that it does sound rough right when I initially star up
David, best to err on the side of caution. I would drain both wing tanks, clean the tank strainers and the gascolator at the firewall and/or filters at the low point in the fuel system, and then flush with some clean gas. Maybe have the carbs cleaned, too. You may have just got a load of bad gas, or there may be some degradation going on in your tanks. Ask some of the KF owners on the KF forum who have the older style tanks--they may can give you some answers. Also, I used to watch a KF vlogger who had to install some sort of vapor return line on his engine because he was getting vapor lock at high altitudes. He had a 912 ULS. Have you ever heard of that with the Rotax?
Great point. I think this is what we are going to do just to be safe and also for a peach of mind,. My engine and I have some serious trust issues now.
Just found and subscribed to your channel. Know your area well. Hauled grain out of your town years ago. Owned a Stinson and had to put it down due to a helicoil that spit a plug out. was eyeing a wet field with lots of water on the one side and when I looked left there was an airport. Did a tail wind landing that went just find. (wife not impressed). Didn't bother me until I woke up the next morning and thought I had better pay more attention of emergency sites to land.
It isn't a very good feeling is it? Glad you got it down safely.
David, You need to check all your wheel bearings too, a proper service to ensure they are fully greased. Cheers
Cheers. Safe flying mate.....Enjoy.
That may very well have been the easiest emergency landing ever. I've had a tougher time doing engine out practice where the only place to land was an 800x50ft dirt strip carved out of a forest of mesquite, saguaro and ironwood.
You need to practice your forward slip to perfection because you may need it some day to, you know, continue living when you have an engine fail in far less favorable circumstances. You don't give up energy until you have to. You make Newton and Bournelli your b*tch. You fly high and fast, not low and slow.
But I have a soft spot for the Kitfox so I subbed anyway.
Also, as an A&P, I totally knew it was going to be a clogged filter 5 minutes before you flashed it across the screen. You just have that vibe.
You need to improve your mechanic skills in addition to your flying skills. You need to filter your mogas as you fuel the aircraft. And you absolutely must use a fuel stabilizer with modern mogas because of MTBE. I use Sta-bil 360. Buy it by the case. I'd also be running some Sea Foam through the fuel system every 50-100 hours.
And I would go through all the fuel lines and check for degradation. I would check for corrosion. MTBE is a relentless corrosion promoter. It is especially bad with a fuel injected engine and can result in other causes of fuel starvation besides a clogged filter. I'm hardly a 912 expert but I did take a factory maintenance course and you have plenty of routine maintenance you need to be doing. Much easier for you to do it yourself as the builder but you really need to know more about what you're doing, maintenance-wise. I cannot stress enough the importance of following the maintenance manual to the letter.
@@Lurch-Bot I completely agree. I got really lucky with that huge field near me. Also, the land owner that drove out and checked on me said they just cut that corn and disked the field a couple weeks ago. Could’ve been a different outcome with a corn crop still in the field.
What type of tailwheel is this?
Baby bush wheel and the Alaskan T3 Tailwheel suspension from Alaskan Bushwheels.
Apparently when anything stopped running my Grandfather would say"there'll be sht in the Carby" he passed when I was 3 . I guess your fuel systems due for a clean out ..... Gosh she glides nice too ! ♥️😉🙃😎 NZ
@@deanedeane4318 haha. That is so true. Sounds like something my grandad would’ve said also.
Glad everything was ok.
so, did your pre-flight inspection not pick up fuel contamination or was it not there then. Did you check the fuel before flight. Your going to have to flush all the fuel out, clean out the carby and probably take it apart to confirm its good to go.
Actually I did but there was nothing out of the ordinary. Just the small particles you normally get. We have discovered that I have a venting issue from my 2 gallon header tank to the wing tanks. I am hauling it to the mechanic at the end of the month to determine the problem and get it corrected. I'll be doing a follow up video with the finding hoping it will help someone else avoid this situation.
At least you have a new friend and possible co pilot Vader
David,
Was nice to meet you at OSH! Fellow kf3 pilot. What vg's did you install and spacing? Only leading edge?
Thanks and great content!
Also looks like a new turtle deck?
Yeah I remember meeting you guys at the Kitfox booth. I ordered the only VG's you can get from aircraft spruce. We did 2 inch I believe. They came with some detailed instructions and we actually installed them on the tail also. I can definitely tell the difference.
@@dtwyckoff what mounts are you using for your 360 pole on the droop tip screws? Guessing you are just running 1/2 conduit with a bolt end? Thanks for the info!
Hey brother, I think we're from the same neck of the woods. I fly out of KBUM in a rented C150. Are you flying out of Pittsburg Kansas?
I am. Just right down the road from ya.
Glad it worked out for you!
Thanks Brian, I sure hope it's my last one of these and I hope you never have to make a video like this. Thankful for all the fairground here in Kansas
Not fun when the donkey stops! Had it happen to me as well, fuel related issue. Nice KitFox 3 👍 I have one also here in Scotland with only 79h on the new 912 80hp I hope it don’t stop for a while 😀
@@Flyingscotsman79 thank you so much. Yeah it wasn’t fun that’s for sure. Definitely fuel related and we think it’s a venting issue. Taking it to a mechanic the end of Nov so I’ll be down for awhile. Need to get this figured out. Thanks again.
@ are you using mogas? Could be vaporlock. I have a large tank behind the seats and a vent on n each wing tank line.
@@Flyingscotsman79 yes sir, mogas. I have a 1 gallon header tank behind the seat as well. That is what a lot of people are saying also. Have you ever had any vapor lock issues? My header tank behind the seat is vented to the 13 gallon wing tank on the copilot side. My pilot side has 7 gallons. I started the day with full fuel and flew about 1.5 hours. I still had 1/4 of a tank of gas on the right side when this happened also.
@ I have 2 tanks behind the seat, one is vented to the left wing tank and the other is vented to the right wing tank, the bigger tank in the rear has a level warning and so far I haven’t had any issues but I’m running ethanol free UL91 in mine. I think venting to both wing tanks is a good idea.
@@Flyingscotsman79 I agree. I need to look into this, It's definitely a venting issue. Also, fuel is being sucked out or pushed out of one side during flight. Check out the ending of my video "flight of 4 to hangar cafe" and you can see where fuel is spilling out of my wing. I show it when I land and I am back at the hangar. I need to install a low fuel warning light as well. Thank you for the advice.
Dang, I was stressing watching the video up until the landing. Glad all is okay, hopefully its just some dirty fuel.
Thanks, yeah it was pretty stressful. Thankful for all the farm ground here in Kansas for sure.
From when the prop stopped to landing, it looks like the starter was never engaged to attempt a restart. Why?
Because I had 1,000 feet to live or die and my priority was landing safely which I successfully did. I also forgot to retract my flaps as well. It's very easy to sit back and point out things that were done wrong but until you are in this situation yourself you will never understand the stress you are under. My right hand never left the throttle and the left hand never left the stick. Flying off of muscle memory at this point and trying to safely land.
@@dtwyckoff Fugging A bubba!
First time i pass by; Rotax engines too much sensitive on contamination. İts carburettor jets too small to pass debris. Good save and luck .
how DID U GET THAT SHOT AT 8:49" Thank you! :)
With a drone.
I use an Insta 360 x4 camera mounted under my wing with a boom pole so you cannot see the pole.
Why does everyone turn close to the ground when landing off field?
@@parkburrets4054 great question. This is the first time I have experienced something like this and I was planning on trying to land in the field right along side that road to my left but I realized I had to much airspeed and also altitude and would’ve hit the fence at the end so I banked it to the right where I had more room to bleed off the airspeed and lose altitude. Otherwise I would have kept it straight and set it down
So you cleaned what? No restart in the air?
Initially I thought I tried to restart it in the air but after looking at my camera footage I actually didn't. I guess I was concentrating on trying to find the correct field. Definitely fuel related issue. Cleaned the gascolator and dumped the other fuel check valves and cranked it over several times and it finally started back up.
Love your videos. But.
I have to turn the volume up in order to hear your speech, and turn it back down for the music which seems to be a little high in volume. Thank you for the great content! Thanks for sharing!
I'll be sure to check y volume levels. Thanks for the feedback and appreciate you watching.
Where. Is. This???
North of Cherokee, Kansas
so what happened?
I am working on a follow. up video. Fuel starvation
Hopefully you did some investigating in the field and it got cut in editing. If you just decided it was good to go after starting and successfully doing some run up’s, you’re likely to be someone whose story is told rather than a story teller. Be safe out there. Take care
Oh yeah, I sat there with the engine running for nearly 15 minutes debating on whether or not I should fly it back home. You take care also. Appreciate it.
Great work not bending you or the airplane....
Thank you, Hopefully this is the last time I have to experience this.
it will happen eventually just don’t panic fly and land
I want to hear the uncut version once you lost power.
@@aaronarb1977 lol. I’ll have to show you next time I see ya.
Wow - you mean didn't have to jump out and use your parachute that all pilots always wear just in case their engine fails? XD
I'm kidding, obviously this is a reference to that moron a couple years ago. Well done!
@@doggonemess1 lol. No this was the real deal. Almost peed down my leg also. 🤦♂️
@@dtwyckoff That's got to be terrifying. What was the knob/switch you were holding after the engine stopped? Attempt to restart?
@@doggonemess1 That's my throttle. Even though I couldn't use it for anything I was just flying off of muscle memory because I was so tensed up just trying to land.
@@dtwyckoff That makes sense to me!
David, hopefully you aren't running ethanol fuel--the early KF tanks won't stand up to the stuff. The newer tanks (after the KF 4 I think were made of different material. I would guess out in KS with all the farming y'all can get non-ethanol gas for the tractors and farm equipment. Also, I wonder if the previous owner had used some sloshing compound in the tanks. I think that can cause some problems too. Keep us posted!
Everyone uses diesel except some old sentimental tractor in the family and hobby farms .
I doubt they made a gas Tractor in decades .
Will do. I'm running no ethanol fuel. Never had any issues until this one.
@@josephpadula2283 there are plenty of gas tractors out there still, including new.
@@mkosmo
Thanks .
What company still making gas tractors? I have seen one in ages …..
@@josephpadula2283 Depends on what size you're looking at. In lawn/garden tractors, Ventrac and JD still produce gasoline tractors. In the larger? Look overseas and smaller manufacturers (like Oggun), but expect more to pop up soon with modern diesel emissions requirements. The big engine manufacturers (Kubota and the like) all have gas motors clearly designed for upcoming tractors.
Motor failure is not fun in a plane. You handled it with total aplomb though. A batch of bad gas? Please keep up updated.
@@wilmeaux12 I appreciate that. Definitely scared me. Luckily there were some farm fields. We are thinking it’s a venting issue with my fuel lines and also the fuel filter. I’ll definitely be doing a follow up video after the mechanic diagnoses the problem. Thanks again
Dogs make everything better
@@belowfray5251 absolutely. I couldn’t agree more
but the butt that means furl fuel needs to be drained to check for sediment
Who goes out of their way to catch croppie's?
Let me guess 582?
It looks like a 912 , real quick view when he’s showing the build photos.
Actually a 912UL. The older 912.
Why didn't you show us the nasty fuel filter? I'd liked to have seen ALL of you standing there working on it.... it would have made
it a lot more realistic seeing the cavalry out helping you get it started again. Guess you'll let us see the footage later, that's more
than half the fun to me since I know you can land just about anywhere, that leaves the actual work behind the mishap....or not?
peace
I just posted a follow up video on what happened and what the issue was. Guess I should've filmed more after the landing. Hoping it never happens again though.
@@dtwyckoff No no, I'm sure I wouldn't ever want to see it either.... this was the best case scenario, safe landing & you got
her back up in the air and home. A storybook ending. I like seeing the nitty-gritty -n- sH!TTy that might cause it was all...
I know what it is on a motorcycle but planes are a wee bit different in the upkeep & all. Wish you had it as that would be
the "Story".... the what caused it story. Glad you were fortunate & I'll see ya on another, I'm sure. peace
LOL...I've never seen a pilot or airplane that deliberately over shoots the asphalt runway on purpose and prefers the dirt...wow...
Bushwheels are too expensive. They wear out quickly on asphalt
You should never land on pavement if possible with bush wheel tires. Always grass landings if you can
Not real smart to take off in an aircraft that just had an engine failure.
looks like you missed checking your fuel on preflight,not very smart
@@MegaRickw nope. Didnt miss that at all. I do it every pre flight. The actual problem is my right wing tank not feeding the header tank. I posted a follow up video you should watch.
@@dtwyckoff if you do it everytime why is all that junk in your sump?
@ because of particles in the fuel, particles from fiberglass wing tanks. A number of things. That’s why it’s on the pre flight checklist and that’s why you do it every time.
what do you mean you don't know how it quit? you all ready said you cleaned the fuel filter and it started. so whats the big misery" trying for clicks?
That's correct, at the time it happened I dd not know why my engine quit on me in flight. BUT I was able to get it restated. No I did not purposely shut off my engine during flight you jack ass.
He probably wanted his mechanic to look it over so he knows for absolutely certain his assessment was correct. Until then he doesn’t know exactly what happened. He’s certainly not experienced enough to be doing something like this on purpose.
Not sure I buy it.
I definitely don't buy it.
@@countysecession definitely don’t care if you do or not. Would never kill my engine in flight with only 65 hours of flight time so I really don’t care what you think. Go troll someone else’s channel