He is casual level one. He has a golden pan without even knowing how to get it and he trys to unbox the bf team capitain from crate 23. Theres nothing more left to say.
mad respect for the way you took this as an opportunity to spread the knowledge, most people dont know about the tf2 trade scene and how its literally the prototype for loot crate microtransactions. good shit brodie, spoke well under random pressure
You were pretty good at explaining things, chat were complete dicks to you lol Stream chats always suck so don't feel too threatened by it, you were put on the spot and TF2 is so much more deep than CS:GO and their trading scene so you did you best haha I have like 8k hours and I couldn't have done better
@@DaKingKayden CS also has a loooot more variables when it comes to skins, and arguably more valuable skins and cosmetics in GENERAL I think it's unfair to judge the two, since CS has the biggest, thriving marketplace, and TF2 has a lot of history in the market scene when it comes to items, and removed stuff, and such Closest thing CS has to that is contraband I suppose They're each as deep as the other just, different aspects Def harder to talk about TF2 trade history when on the spot in my opinion though
@@bonniefoam they're only related in the way that they're shooters with crate systems and made by the same company, thats it really- aside from the grades
tbf, he didnt actually know like anything about skins. I havnt played the game in years but still keep up from time to time, and I was able to instantly answer all the questions ohne asked with 100% accuracy. felt like dude was answering based of assumptions.
Nah it’s just getting to the point. Plus this guy didn’t seem credible at all at the beginning when he didn’t answer the questions straight away. Ohne was expecting someone that knows these things by heart otherwise that’s not an expert
@@charlechI don’t think there’s anyone that knows that stuff by heart because tf2s marketplace isn’t that big and profitable like cs so ohne was just being a big fat German waffen SS weaboo hentai lover
fr tho wtf is some regular person gonna do with a bentley, if you keep it, it bleeds money through maintenance and potential repairs, while if you sell it, you risk getting way less than what you COULD get for an arcana TC 😂
@@ColorCodeWhite drive carefully you can take care of it's not like if somebody took a luxury car for the TF2 had they be taking it to collect they be taking it to drive and use it doesn't degrade in value that fast and maintenance isn't bad if you know how to drive it can actually take care of it
You could literally put up a random case for a hundred bucks and he would by it screaming "IT'S EXPENSIVE, THERE HAS TO BE GOOD STUFF IN THERE OOOHH OOHH OHHH" just because it's expensive.
I mean yea that's literally why certain cases are expensive. The more expensive the items in a case are, the more expensive the case will cost. That being said when you search for cases on the market the price it shows is for the cheapest one listed. If you list a random 3 cent case for $100 it'll be on the last page of that cases listings behind the thousands of cheaper ones so no he wouldn't even see it lol.
dude u were actually helpful chat was so annoying for no reason, like no one is going to remember most of these prices because of how much variety there is in tf2 trading
Thank you for trying to help him understand these things. Because it hurts me as a TF2 trader that all he sees is that the antlers and TC are just rare flashy items. If a sale on one of those items went through with him the item wouldn't ever see the light of day and be forever locked to his BP just like the G pan for flexing.
TF2 "You have to play a game mode for the rarest item." CS "Nah, f*ck that." All you need to hear to get the difference in the market/mindset of the players.
The rarity of some of thsse items should make them so much more expensive when comparing to CSGO items, imagine if TF2 became popular again with an update similar to cs2...
I was in the chat and it felt like you were getting a bit pressed because oh ohne haha, i was waiting for someone like you to explain him tf2 economy. You were pretty entertaining! Good luck trading!
Huuuhh another cs2 glazer who has no idea about tf2 trading. Hats going for up to 3-4k as much as t4 Gamma Dopplers. You don't know what you're talking about.
You did a good job, Ohne was acting like a dick and pretended like he knew more than he did, saying that you should know the price of every hat with every effect is fucking absurd, and comparing it to knives is crazy. There are probably thousands of more combos of hats/effects than knives/skins.
That reminds me of any "collector" that bought as many unusualls banana hats or however they are named for sake that other people (wanting really this hat to Wear for their loadouts) coudlnt get them.
This guy's chat, his entire attitude, Everything is actually making me cringe. I used to think Ohne was an alright guy with a gambling addiction, Now i see he's just rude and seems to think an inventory equates to your worth as a human being.
There’s actually another 1/1 item that can never be unboxed again it was a body cosmetic that was glitched and unboxed in an unusual which isn’t supposed to happen (unless it’s a hat)
That Gordon Ramsay PFP fits perfectly with this situation. Ohne asking all those questions and you are sitting there like "How the fuck did I get here?"
I would say u were under alot of pressure , also monent at 12:00 triggered me:D he wasnt even looking at right price and he though he won:D I have now over 10k hours in tf2 and never was that big trader myself, but u did good.. pressure did its thing and he was also asking random ass questions..
Mad respect for trying your best to explain the overly complicated tf2 market, but man both sides of this conversation infuriate me lol. Ive been tradint for 7+ years and there were so much missing from the discussion. Dont blame you at all for not knowing a lot of this niche shit but just for example the price fluctuation in cases 7-8 compared to the rest of 1-25 is due to the possible strange contents of thise cases, i could tell you were tryinf to share that with him specifically with the original, but the bacon grease or the white and black paints also make them generally mkre profitable than other 1-25 crates. Those old crates that are worth a ridiculous amount are just rare and most cannot be opened anymore regardless. If hes looking to chase a dream hat i highly recommend you telling him about invasion crates or EOTL crates. Frostbite and nebula are god tier effects that will go for absurd amounts regardless of the hat. That or if you ever manage to speak to him again mention the unlocked multi-class cosmetic crates. Also iirc misc unusuals cannot be unboxed anymore except certain quick switch glitch hats. Gotta be frustrating getting grilled by someone who knows absolutely nothing about how dense the tf2 market is though man.
I know a whole lot about warpaints and weapon skins, if you still have contact with ohne, hmu as I know a guy who is going to craft a ~$50,000-$100,000+ strange skin that's probably never going to exist if he doesn't hit a 1/3 chance trade up.
Ohnepixel is just a two dimensional CSGO trader that just understands grades, patterns, and floats. TF2 is so much more in depth with hats, unusuals, grades, spells, taunts, unusual gens, Halloween spells, post life spells, rare patterns (actual ones not just 1-999). I could go on forever. Guy wouldn't survive a single day trading in TF2.
@@user-defined-X Man which one is more Complex i wanted to get into Economy but and tf2 was feeling too complex for me so i went and Downloaded Cs and there you need to have masters in Probability just to make a profit man idk which one do i go for i dont play Cs much but have some cheaper skins that i got from failed trade ups
When they were talking about the rarest tf2 hat why didn't he just play that one safe and said like the gliched unusual coffin kit or the virtual viewfinder at that time those would have been the most expensive
insane to me how this guy has a viewbbase, genuinely has the maturity of a 14 year old as a grown man. Ohne is one of the most intolerable people ive seen on this platform
OHNE OPEN CRATE 40 AND 50 the least expensive item u can get is like 25 keys and there is a strange pan u can get not golden but strange and its worth like 500
this is just sad to watch. He thinks that knowing every single skin in a video game makes him much superior than others. I dont think anyone actually knows what the most expensive skin in tf2, taken to consideration that there more things valued more like highlander medal or saxxy trophy or just collector weapons, he is actually so bad at this
Bro you should have said for the salvaged 50 crate you can get a unusual or also get one of the weapon drops which are expensive like the PDA. So you can get an unusual or a strange PDA which are both super rare so the crate costs more. Also they don’t make them so their super rare
Ohne is addicted to that potential gambling so he was hyperventilating and malding at the chance that he could get something but because he doesnt understand the difference between the TF2 market and CSGO market, him being overly aggressive for that quick on-the-fly knowledge dump was hard to watch ngl lol
1158 cs2 skins, guns skins can't be unboxed yellow (not counting contraband either) 1844 tf2 cosmetics, normal hats CAN be unusual and every hat/misc is unique. (granted, MANY of these are pretty irrelevant in trading, can't be unusual, and as cheap as it gets among unique hats/misc) CS has many skin variants on the same base item while tf2 has a stupid amount of entirely different looking cosmetics. So when we're comparing unusual hats to knives/gloves, there are WAY more possible unusuals than there are knives/gloves unless you include every single pattern. I still don't think it's comparable in number if we were to compare all unusuals to knives + major pattern types. All I'm saying is that you can't expect a TF2 trader to know the prices of every single unusual hat + effect. (not saying one is better over the other)
I thought Ohne was a chill dude, na CSGO people are just different dude. If Valve actually cared about tf2 we’d be still up there. Tf2 people just don’t care as much as csgo people about the “golds”
laughing my ass off at how you start calmly explaining things and ohnepixel just starts screaming from the top of his lungs almost at random
🤣
fr i watched the case opening it was incredibly something
It’s just germans
bro he was fuckin interrogating u like u killed someone
Lmaooo he was fr stressing me out a little bit but I know he was just checking my credibility and half joking
Bro no shit i was stressed for u lol
Job interview 💀
@@ebicoTF i think he just really really really likes video game items lol
The dude was clueless. He clearly hasn’t been into god tier trading.
Edit: Oh lol the poster is the guy interviewed… well Im not changing my opinion.
Man him trying to open case 90 while the clown music in background was like the funniest shit man
😂
for refrence a 1000€ inventory in cs2 in 2024 is the top 25%. Ohne is glazing again.
He is casual level one. He has a golden pan without even knowing how to get it and he trys to unbox the bf team capitain from crate 23. Theres nothing more left to say.
Its no longer a BF TC its a "Burning hat captain"?
I know it is 7 months old, but during hween u can get only hween effects
@@JanPawrOn cases, not crates.
mad respect for the way you took this as an opportunity to spread the knowledge, most people dont know about the tf2 trade scene and how its literally the prototype for loot crate microtransactions. good shit brodie, spoke well under random pressure
You were pretty good at explaining things, chat were complete dicks to you lol
Stream chats always suck so don't feel too threatened by it, you were put on the spot and TF2 is so much more deep than CS:GO and their trading scene so you did you best haha
I have like 8k hours and I couldn't have done better
i would argue that csgo is much more deep than tf2 but thats because it has a really big market, tf2 is nothing to scoff at
@@DaKingKayden CS also has a loooot more variables when it comes to skins, and arguably more valuable skins and cosmetics in GENERAL
I think it's unfair to judge the two, since CS has the biggest, thriving marketplace, and TF2 has a lot of history in the market scene when it comes to items, and removed stuff, and such
Closest thing CS has to that is contraband I suppose
They're each as deep as the other just, different aspects
Def harder to talk about TF2 trade history when on the spot in my opinion though
@@bonniefoam they're only related in the way that they're shooters with crate systems and made by the same company, thats it really- aside from the grades
tbf, he didnt actually know like anything about skins. I havnt played the game in years but still keep up from time to time, and I was able to instantly answer all the questions ohne asked with 100% accuracy. felt like dude was answering based of assumptions.
dude ohne was lowkey pissing me off with how rude and arrogant he was being (he was chill at the end tho)
Nah it’s just getting to the point. Plus this guy didn’t seem credible at all at the beginning when he didn’t answer the questions straight away. Ohne was expecting someone that knows these things by heart otherwise that’s not an expert
German people ☕
@@charlechI don’t think there’s anyone that knows that stuff by heart because tf2s marketplace isn’t that big and profitable like cs so ohne was just being a big fat German waffen SS weaboo hentai lover
@@goodknightpangestu470😂
at around 13:00 he clarified he was just bantering
"YOU GOTTA KNOW THESE THINGS. YOU GOTTA KNOW THESE THINGS." i felt stressed just watching this
I just died when he told him about the golden pan and he followed it up with, “it’s only-“
Someone should tell Ohnepixel about the guy that declined a Bentley for his Arcana Team Captain lol
lol
fr tho wtf is some regular person gonna do with a bentley, if you keep it, it bleeds money through maintenance and potential repairs, while if you sell it, you risk getting way less than what you COULD get for an arcana TC 😂
@@ColorCodeWhite drive carefully you can take care of it's not like if somebody took a luxury car for the TF2 had they be taking it to collect they be taking it to drive and use it doesn't degrade in value that fast and maintenance isn't bad if you know how to drive it can actually take care of it
@@cibriss9735 uhhh gasoline, washing this car, and you will get higher charges cuz its expensive cuh,
You could literally put up a random case for a hundred bucks and he would by it screaming "IT'S EXPENSIVE, THERE HAS TO BE GOOD STUFF IN THERE OOOHH OOHH OHHH" just because it's expensive.
I mean yea that's literally why certain cases are expensive. The more expensive the items in a case are, the more expensive the case will cost.
That being said when you search for cases on the market the price it shows is for the cheapest one listed. If you list a random 3 cent case for $100 it'll be on the last page of that cases listings behind the thousands of cheaper ones so no he wouldn't even see it lol.
the circus music playing while he was getting mad at the item servers was perfect lol
I’m glad Ohne finally let you talk like 2 minutes in holy shit
Man ohne was on your shit, i woulda got annoyed by him demanding so many answers😭
Ohne: “I could name every single CS:GO skin!”
Ok? It’s not a competition??? Let the man talk ffs.
bro do you even trust him..?😂😂
he's obviously trashtalking when he says that shit..
just told that cuz my dude ebic was stressing out 😂
dude u were actually helpful chat was so annoying for no reason, like no one is going to remember most of these prices because of how much variety there is in tf2 trading
Thank you for trying to help him understand these things. Because it hurts me as a TF2 trader that all he sees is that the antlers and TC are just rare flashy items. If a sale on one of those items went through with him the item wouldn't ever see the light of day and be forever locked to his BP just like the G pan for flexing.
Yeah he doesn't play. He's just a degenerate gambler lol
Bro thinks he’s him after watching one video about the rarest item 😂
haha golden pan is a totally random drop. Dude is a tourist.
I find this funny with the circus music on 22:09
TF2 "You have to play a game mode for the rarest item."
CS "Nah, f*ck that."
All you need to hear to get the difference in the market/mindset of the players.
"I don't even play the game, I have a golden pan." Like dude, f*ck this guy, fr.
@@notabene9804 yeah absolute cs glazer and sees and other comp shooter as less. Then interrogates the guy, pretty cringe
The rarity of some of thsse items should make them so much more expensive when comparing to CSGO items, imagine if TF2 became popular again with an update similar to cs2...
why is blud so aggressive
German
German
its just the german personality he's actually super chill lolol
SS
I was in the chat and it felt like you were getting a bit pressed because oh ohne haha, i was waiting for someone like you to explain him tf2 economy. You were pretty entertaining! Good luck trading!
"you gotta know these things bro!"
bro doesn't understand tf2 hats lol
the menu music with the item servers not working along with chat was so fucking chaotic it was funny af
Watching Ohne gambling on TF2 is like watching Cryptobros "investing" on Pokemon Trading Cards.
Ohne did a whole job interview in the start
this was so awkward and it wasnt even on your end bro 😭
i love how for CS traders, buying the most expensive unusual is like taking a walk down the park
Huuuhh another cs2 glazer who has no idea about tf2 trading. Hats going for up to 3-4k as much as t4 Gamma Dopplers. You don't know what you're talking about.
so many more factors in tf2 hat cost compared to knife or skin drops in CS2 other than float or ware.
Seeing ohne going crazy over tf2 items is so heartwarming
This guy is 19 and already has a deeper voice then me 😭
bro u get puberty at like 12, why are you surprised an adult has a deep voice lol
You did a good job, Ohne was acting like a dick and pretended like he knew more than he did, saying that you should know the price of every hat with every effect is fucking absurd, and comparing it to knives is crazy. There are probably thousands of more combos of hats/effects than knives/skins.
"i can name every csgo skin" mental
I think i got more regarded and acustic watching this video, this is why i hate CS:GO and those damn buyer trading weirdos
Ohne gotta chill he interrogating the guy like he commited a crime for not being an expert on TF2 items 💀
the chat moves like a hivemind, and ohne just listens to them
Your Original is sick. Glad to see you're a comethazine fan.
Bros memorizing Csgo skins like Pokémon
Typical CSGO player that thinks he can just buy whatever he wants lol. Glad TF2 owners won't have his bullshit.
That reminds me of any "collector" that bought as many unusualls banana hats or however they are named for sake that other people (wanting really this hat to Wear for their loadouts) coudlnt get them.
tf2 dead game
Gmod dead game and chanel 😫
He can buy whatever he wants and trust the tf2 owners would deffo have his shit
@@bloke9864 he tried to buy antlers and couldn't so yeah, he can't lol
All class unlocked cases are the best way to go if you wanna open
The clown music when he was unboxing was perfect
This guy's chat, his entire attitude, Everything is actually making me cringe. I used to think Ohne was an alright guy with a gambling addiction, Now i see he's just rude and seems to think an inventory equates to your worth as a human being.
Ohney needs to get in a call with zesty Jesus
no he doesn't actually
two annoying people in call
that would be horrendous yet interesting at the same time
the most desirable items in tf2 are unsuals and zesty doenst really care about them so that wouldnt make sense
@@rama-rao-y8u they both care about different things but both are equally unbearable to listen to with their childish rants.
14:49 He sounds like a fucking kid that gets excited over the word treat
And then he says that you can equip the antlers on any "agent" jesus christ
Love how he turns dude down then continues to yell
ohne gotta understand that tf2 economy is like a 1/100th of cs2
There’s actually another 1/1 item that can never be unboxed again it was a body cosmetic that was glitched and unboxed in an unusual which isn’t supposed to happen (unless it’s a hat)
tf2 player meets skin crazed counterstrike player lol
That Gordon Ramsay PFP fits perfectly with this situation. Ohne asking all those questions and you are sitting there like "How the fuck did I get here?"
shouldve talked about macar masked war paint
gods seeing the "lmao he's a brokie"
this dudes community is TERRIBLE.
I would say u were under alot of pressure , also monent at 12:00 triggered me:D he wasnt even looking at right price and he though he won:D
I have now over 10k hours in tf2 and never was that big trader myself, but u did good.. pressure did its thing and he was also asking random ass questions..
so thats why all my fav crates are getting scalped
rare =/= valueable
EMP guy can't be legit having that much same unusual hat he must have duplicated them.
Imagine poor shaming a person for only dropping 1000$ on a ftp game
He saw a podcast that told him about it, the cycle continues 😂
Ohnepixel does not now how to check a knowledge of a Tf2 trader
He should’ve opened the cosmetic cases
Ohnepixel is so insufferable
now somebody have ohne prove that he doesnt play valorant in a discord call with intense questions please
okay, theres like uhhh, okay a video, okay?
Mad respect for trying your best to explain the overly complicated tf2 market, but man both sides of this conversation infuriate me lol. Ive been tradint for 7+ years and there were so much missing from the discussion. Dont blame you at all for not knowing a lot of this niche shit but just for example the price fluctuation in cases 7-8 compared to the rest of 1-25 is due to the possible strange contents of thise cases, i could tell you were tryinf to share that with him specifically with the original, but the bacon grease or the white and black paints also make them generally mkre profitable than other 1-25 crates. Those old crates that are worth a ridiculous amount are just rare and most cannot be opened anymore regardless.
If hes looking to chase a dream hat i highly recommend you telling him about invasion crates or EOTL crates. Frostbite and nebula are god tier effects that will go for absurd amounts regardless of the hat. That or if you ever manage to speak to him again mention the unlocked multi-class cosmetic crates.
Also iirc misc unusuals cannot be unboxed anymore except certain quick switch glitch hats.
Gotta be frustrating getting grilled by someone who knows absolutely nothing about how dense the tf2 market is though man.
Ohne pixel makes me so angry lol He pretends to be an expert when he knows literally nothing.
😠😠😠✊ GRRRRRR Ohne
It's interesting how both in Dota 2 and TF2 Halloween items can no longer be obtained and are some of the most valuable items in the game.
I know a whole lot about warpaints and weapon skins, if you still have contact with ohne, hmu as I know a guy who is going to craft a ~$50,000-$100,000+ strange skin that's probably never going to exist if he doesn't hit a 1/3 chance trade up.
15:30 aint no way boi I never heard a german person say lemme cook 😂😂
Bro called the classes "agents"
ohnepixel doesnt realize that tf2 items are worth much lower than counter strike skins, and its funny trying to tell him how tf2 works lmfao
Ohnepixel is just a two dimensional CSGO trader that just understands grades, patterns, and floats. TF2 is so much more in depth with hats, unusuals, grades, spells, taunts, unusual gens, Halloween spells, post life spells, rare patterns (actual ones not just 1-999). I could go on forever. Guy wouldn't survive a single day trading in TF2.
@@user-defined-X Man which one is more Complex
i wanted to get into Economy but and tf2 was feeling too complex for me so i went and Downloaded Cs
and there you need to have masters in Probability just to make a profit man
idk which one do i go for i dont play Cs much but have some cheaper skins that i got from failed trade ups
@self-proclaimedanimator cs2 is a fun game and has nice stuff but for the most part things are very generic.
With crates 1-25 iirc there was this bug with 100% unu drops, I remember I made like 200$ on it lol
When they were talking about the rarest tf2 hat why didn't he just play that one safe and said like the gliched unusual coffin kit or the virtual viewfinder at that time those would have been the most expensive
Because there's a hat with a declined $60,000 USD offer
I think Ohne was just pulling your leg, and you handled it really well. Twitch chat always dogpiles everything so I’d just ignore them tbh
theres no one who will ever get rarest item in game.
19:09 Bro is drinking with his lose wth
insane to me how this guy has a viewbbase, genuinely has the maturity of a 14 year old as a grown man. Ohne is one of the most intolerable people ive seen on this platform
As with most CS traders
you sound like charlie from smiling friends
@@aglot7665 lmfao
OHNE OPEN CRATE 40 AND 50 the least expensive item u can get is like 25 keys and there is a strange pan u can get not golden but strange and its worth like 500
I mean rarest skin would be some form of an energy orb spelled skin
Bro this guy really didn’t know all that much, ohne should of went to a legit high tier trader and talked to one of them…
Talking to people from germany be like
this is just sad to watch. He thinks that knowing every single skin in a video game makes him much superior than others. I dont think anyone actually knows what the most expensive skin in tf2, taken to consideration that there more things valued more like highlander medal or saxxy trophy or just collector weapons, he is actually so bad at this
Bro you should have said for the salvaged 50 crate you can get a unusual or also get one of the weapon drops which are expensive like the PDA. So you can get an unusual or a strange PDA which are both super rare so the crate costs more. Also they don’t make them so their super rare
Ohne is addicted to that potential gambling so he was hyperventilating and malding at the chance that he could get something but because he doesnt understand the difference between the TF2 market and CSGO market, him being overly aggressive for that quick on-the-fly knowledge dump was hard to watch ngl lol
Good job , i would freeze under the stress lol.
crazy how people don't know that the spellbound antlers would sell for like 60k keys
1158 cs2 skins, guns skins can't be unboxed yellow (not counting contraband either)
1844 tf2 cosmetics, normal hats CAN be unusual and every hat/misc is unique. (granted, MANY of these are pretty irrelevant in trading, can't be unusual, and as cheap as it gets among unique hats/misc)
CS has many skin variants on the same base item while tf2 has a stupid amount of entirely different looking cosmetics. So when we're comparing unusual hats to knives/gloves, there are WAY more possible unusuals than there are knives/gloves unless you include every single pattern. I still don't think it's comparable in number if we were to compare all unusuals to knives + major pattern types.
All I'm saying is that you can't expect a TF2 trader to know the prices of every single unusual hat + effect. (not saying one is better over the other)
I thought Ohne was a chill dude, na CSGO people are just different dude. If Valve actually cared about tf2 we’d be still up there. Tf2 people just don’t care as much as csgo people about the “golds”
man put me in there i would yap about tf2 items so hard
you seem so nice
shoulda opened case #60
tbf u dont have to play the game to know whats the most expensive skin in cs2
lmao he just completely doesnt get it
You did pretty good but the chat full of 12yo made it like i was at crucifixion
Ima keep it a buck ohne is pretty insufferable
couldn't you get burning tc from unlocked multi-class crate?
i hate that he owns a G pan its just locked in his inventory never to be used smh
holy shit i actually have you in my friends list
Bros psycotic