Erin “stop telling me to just eat a burger it doesn’t work for me” also Erin “she can just get on a treadmill”. Love the podcast but weight is a complex topic and shouldn’t be spoken about lightly.
Okay but Like context. Both situations has overweight people talking about other people’s appearance those people then talked about their appearance… Neither the coworker or the ginger guy said anything about their appearance first, it was only up until their appearance was criticize.
i agree that both people in the first aita sucked, but erin's take was so so bad. her blatant fatphobia with the treadmill comment and fat b comment was hard to watch. and carly and mike going along with it sucked too. props to matt for holding his ground
But Matt said “it’s a compliment” and “it’s not that bad” completely invalidating skinny peoples feelings and normalizing making fun of them even further. If it wasn’t so normalized to make fun of skinny people and comment on their bodies, than none of this would’ve happened. The treadmill comments and so on were blatantly disrespectful I agree with you there but that doesn’t mean Matt is some stand up guy when he was being problematic too.
@@haydentaylor2872 because being seen as ‘skinny’ has been known to be a compliment. It’s quite literally been the beauty standard for centuries. I know for thinner people sure, being told that doesn’t make things better, but being thin has ALWAYS been more widely accepted than being bigger. I just think the two are incomparable.
@@alexSoto11117 I agree with this! Skinny shaming isnt it either but, Erin didnt have to stoop to the level of people skinny shaming by bringing down a whole other group of people
That was literally her point. Just like some people struggle to lose wait, there’s others who struggle to gain. That was the whole point of her comment.
I’m so confused on how the three of them gang up on Matt for his opinions but somehow Erin can have her opinion and if you don’t agree with her you are literally wrong??? Matt is the backbone on all his podcast
I’m a man and 140 pounds and 6’1 I can understand what it is to be made fun of for being skinny. However, I can 100% see how being called skinny and fat (or any other word that means it) is different. People that are skinny ARE the beauty standard and have always been, everything is catered for us. I want to say this does not give the girl a PASS to be mean and disrespect boundaries when asked to not be called skinny. But both of them are assholes, and for different reasons. I also can’t believe the hypocrisy from Erin, stating that she hated being told to eat more etc. and in the same breath making “fat bitch” “get on a treadmill” comments. They are so damaging to her audience. Very disappointed. Matt thanks for keeping it real.
As someone who’s been fat and very very skinny, I’ve gotten both and being called fat hurts 1000% more but skinny girls will never get that because they don’t understand the absolute hatred people have for fat people. Being called skinny is usually in a jealous way. Not that either is right, people shouldn’t comment about others bodies at all.
1000% I was underweight most of my life then in my late 20s became technically obese, fat comments sting and hurt so much more and someone who has never been fat will never understand and shouldn't pretend to
I’m wondering why erin thinks a stupid naughty name on a cup is sexual harassment and the guy laying naked in hopes that his roommates gf will see him and learn her lesson isn’t. In both of those stories both parties were in the wrong in my opinion but still
maybe they should stay away from the weight subject… as someone who is plus size I very much agree that the person who was calling the other slim was also an asshole, but the comments that followed bothered me. erin goes “don’t tell me to eat a cheeseburger” and then a bit later says “just get in the treadmill” and i stopped the podcast and sat shocked. such a double standard. idk i didn’t like how that conversation was handled it made me sad:(
literally exactly what i was going to say. the coworker is still an asshole for calling them slim but erin seems tone deaf on the subject and doesn’t realize shes a hypocrite
i lke you guys but the discussion about fatphobia was PAINFUL, especially disappointed in how easy it was for erin to "joke" about calling someone a "fat bitch" or telling a fat person to just "get on a treadmill" smh. theres a reason the word "fatphobia" exists and "skinnyphobia" or"gingerphobia" dont
100%! I can see why Erin has a problem with it from her experience but she really does NOT understand how difficult being fat is in comparison to being told she needs to eat more sometimes. She gets told she looks like a model 95% of the time. It’s just not the same thing.
Fat phobia? R u kidding that’s such a stretch she doesn’t hate fat people just cause she made 1 comment… if the girl is offended by being called out physically she should understand why the slimmer girl wanted her to stop
I feel like Erin’s putting her own issues with being skinny on this. I definitely don’t think OP has to apologize and it’s fair to call her coworker “chunky” because she’s asked politely not to be called “slim/toothpick” and her coworker didn’t care. However, the whole “well go on a treadmill” is pretty gross. Erin, fat people go on treadmills. They diet, they starve, they exercise. Just like you can’t gain weight, they struggle with losing weight. But you get told you look like a model by MOST people and fat people are shamed and looked down upon. It’s not the same thing AT ALL.
As an overweight person, I don’t really understand being offended by someone calling me “skinny”. But the second she asked the other person to not call her that, that should have been the end of it.
I’ve been both over AND underweight. You shouldn’t be commenting on someone’s weight/body. That’s why skinny people don’t like being called skinny. It’s the same reason you don’t want to be called fat. It’s someone making a judgement about your body That you didn’t ask for.
@@Carol-mn9xq OP is clearly being humiliated by their coworker for being skinny. So why is she wrong for saying it? Sometimes people need a taste of their own medicine to see they are hurting others. It doesn’t make her an asshole for calling her chunky. I means she’s put up a boundary- the other person refused to stop- so chunky it is.
@@ashleyduckworthyt3224 i just think it could have been handled better. If it were me, I would have called HR. Giving her “her own medicine” would have been my last option, only if nothing else worked. But in no way am I defending the second girl, if someone is clearly uncomfortable with a nickname, that should be the end of it.
In the additional comments on this AITA she went to the boss who said to handle it on their own. So seemingly no HR To report to. But I wish they had read that part so you can see she got no support from her office staff.
@@kayteebarga9694 not really. as you said everyone has the right to their opinions, and erin willingly posted her opinion online, she’s allowed to be disagreed with publicly.
The weight topic felt super tone deaf coming from 4 rather slim people. Matt was the only one saying the word chucky was messed up. We live in a world where being on the slimmer side is glorified. I know we’re in this new world of being more accepted but we all know that smaller people just get treated better in every instance. I get that the woman was using the world slim in a derogatory way but chunky was definitely a meaner thing to say.
completely agree with matt on the chunky vs slim one. & also as a fat person, there is a history of oppression towards fat people both systemically and socially... commenting on fat bodies will always be more harmful than commenting on skinny bodies because of the history associated with being a bigger bodied person. all that to be said that nobody should comment on others bodies, especially in the workplace, so they're both the asshole.... but again, not equal.
When someone asks you to stop you stop…otherwise it’s harassment. Really they should have gone to management but since she took matters into her own hands and turned it around on her. Why can’t she just reply “it’s my mouth and I can say what I want” to the chunky lady. I agree with Erin
@@haydentaylor2872 sorry, but this is giving all lives matter rhetoric…. i said in my comment that i disagree with either person calling each other names based on weight, but i stand by the fact that derogatory comments towards fat and skinny people are not equal, although both can be harmful in similar ways.
@@kccarter6578 also just to double down on how egregious of a take the all lives matter thing was- big people aren’t being murdered for their weight that they can usually control to some degree, black people are being systemically oppressed and murdered for the color of their skin which they cannot change. The fact that you even compared the two is honestly sickening.
@@kccarter6578 I didn’t even say it’s more or less derogatory- sure calling someone chunky is worse than slim. I agree. But the thin lady who called her chunky did not call her chunky right away. Only after repeated abuse. If her immediate response was to call her chunky she’d be the asshole. But if someone is going to repeatedly pick on you for your weight knowing you don’t like it, you are 100% justified to do the same thing back. The fact that she didn’t react right away is because of the understanding that being called chunky is worse than slim. The argument isn’t fat vs thin. It’s one individual giving her bully a taste of her own medicine. Not comparable to racism at all because racism can only go one way (against the oppressed group) , where body shaming can go towards multiple different groups of people and affects people on both ends of the spectrum.
i agree with matt most times because the rest of them are so rude about the weight comments… being called a negative connotation regarding to over weight is way more offensive than skinny.. like skinny is the beauty standard.
but the same way people struggle to lose weight, there are sooo many people who are insecure about being skinny and are actively trying to gain weight. if someone doesn’t want comments about their weight, why would they make comments about someone else’s?
i think it’s just the fact that the girl had already communicated that she was uncomfortable with the remarks about her weight, yet her coworker seemed to comment about it anyways
@@laurenrollins9622 yes i believe both were wrong! it’s the fact that erin was saying “i can’t change being skinny” then saying fat people need to go on a treadmill. Both were bullies but the first girl shouldn’t have started it!
I actually agree with matt on the first one, erin and other thin people have every right to be offended at being called slim etc. but systematically fat people have been called and treated much worse so I think the person is definitely the asshole...
Really?! Even though the woman was asked to stop and refused by giving a bitchy response “it’s my mouth I’ll say what I want” you think the poster is the the asshole?
@@emilyzimmermann9986 yes i agree you shouldn’t comment on someone’s weight at all but i’m more so mad at erin for the way she’s getting on using the word chunky, fat bitch etc. thinking that they are equally offensive to being called slim and thin. They aren’t, simple as that. fatphobia is a much larger issue than being called slim.
For the first one, I think it’s as simple as if the ‘bigger’ woman is talking about the ‘slim’ girls body, she should be prepared for her own body to be spoken about too. Although bigger people have historically been ridiculed, if someone has expressed they are uncomfortable with something, and they’re not listened to, they are well within their right to retaliate. Simply don’t dish out what you can’t dish in
I love how mike was like “oh wait” when he was about to go off about people who hate kids when he remembered that Carly and Erin make hating kids their entire personality 😂
@@dangerrkylaa they don’t even say they hate kids. they just don’t desire to have their one, and carly often says that babies and kids don’t make her feel any type of way like they do for other people. that’s all
I think you should never use foul language in front of kids…not cool, however whether you take longer in a line or not should depend on how many people waiting. For example if 50 people were waiting then take a pass on the life lesson because you are inconveniencing others but if 5 people are waiting and 10 check outs then by all means do it. Teaching your kid to check out is important but so is teaching him to be courteous to others is also equally important
I’m probably going to get some hate for this, but the take on the Starbucks story was painful to me. I’ve worked in food service before and have been harassed by coworkers and customers both verbally and physically, I’ve had customers threaten me with violence while my coworkers were instigating them from the background, and do you want to know how many times I’ve thrown things at customers, 0 times. From someone who has been actually assaulted at work a dumb name on a cup is not something that would even be on my radar, at most I would think, “This person is childish.” and then move on with my day. I would never physically assault a customer with food or anything else because at the end of the day, It’s not worth getting fired, arrested, or sued over something so childish that I won’t even remember it by tomorrow.
Understandable and I am probably on your side regarding this. I don’t think I would have gotten so fired up as to throw my drink either but it’s not really fair to compare your tolerance for harassment to someone else’s.
Agreed. People don’t realize the society aspect of someone who is consider “fat” and someone who is considered “skinny”. I get if you’ve always been thin why you think it’s a double standard but it really is very different. She spoke like someone who doesn’t understand because she’s never experienced it so I get it but you have to think outside yourself sometimes 🤷🏼♀️
MATTS EYE ROLL AT 1:03:17 honestly kinda valid there’s weird tension throughout this whole episode between all of them i feel like something def happened off camera between them..
i really hope you address your treadmill comment and apologize as it was really hurtful to a whole community of people. its not as simple as getting on a treadmill and loosing weight. i have pcos and it takes forever to loose weight. this comment really broke my heart coming from you
before anyone comes to argue - I know it’s wrong to comment on anyone’s body and would personally never do that, under ANY circumstance (including as a response to someone else commenting on mine). there are many fair ways to approach retaliation without doing exactly what you say not to. I would think a reasonable person, who finds it harmful to comment on someone’s body, wouldn’t do that. like it’s pretty simple. so if you think retaliation that stems from fatphobia is appropriate, you’re probably fatphobic - which is a lot more harmful than calling someone thin (society’s standard) .. like come on
@@shedoesstuffsometimes like how did they not bring up the topic that its more socially acceptable to be thin than fat 😭 doesnt make it right to make fun of someone for being thin at all but i do feel like it needed to be discussed. and when erin said go get on a treadmill i rolled my eyes like girl bye. shes upset that people tell her to put some meat on her bones but shes gonna tell fat people to get on a treadmill unprovoked.... like cmon, it screams fatphobia
also the way she said "fat bitch" to the hypothetical person.... so disgusting & showed her true fatphobic colors! her life has been so hard being the skinny beauty standard clearly... **eye roll**
These comments are so dense, that’s how she would react if someone was making fun of HER weight. Not how she treats large people for no reason. Stop reaching. So sensitive it’s unreal
@@charliedawn27 actually that was her response to the dating show when the girl says she's not into people with shaved/bald heads and the man goes on to say he doesn't like 'bigger' girls (girl was not even slightly big). Figure out the context of the comment before complaining snowflake.
"I was kinda trolling" lol Matt its okay to say you hate when you're disliked by people. we all know you weren't trolling, just own the fact that you had an opposing opinion. People pleasing will get you nowhere.
I think people project way too hard, I always thought Matt was obviously half going along being contradictory for the drama of being the contradictory voice. The problem he really had was the same one I do with the AITA subreddit in that you read between the lines in people's stories and see the holes in the story and start to mistrust the entire thing because they're obviously not giving an unbiased explanation...but as the girls said, with this you just have to take things at face value and he wasn't really clicking with that at the time.
Yea, a majority agree with a certain way, but a lot think differently. Just bc Matt’s opinion isn’t the popular opinion of the group doesn’t mean he has to agree or blend in. I often agree with his opinion over theirs or the “popular” opinion. Feel and think and believe how YOU do, if you’re shamed for it. That’s on them.
AITA #1: Erin didn’t seem to be a dick like so many people are saying. There’s people who have difficulty losing weight and people who have difficulty gaining weight, sure, neither issue was mentioned, but what WAS mentioned was that the writer was not okay with being called “slim, toothpick, etc” and made that known therefore that’s totally JUSTIFIED. If you’re going to pick at people’s appearance, don’t be mad when they fire back. I saw a comment saying that slim/skinny is the beauty standard therefore the comment should not have affected the writer as much. Regardless of what the standards is, that doesn’t mean the writer agrees with that, could have weight gaining issues, or whatever it may be. They respectfully asked the person to stop with the comments and they didn’t. Also, about the the AITA 1.5 that’s Carly mentioned, the girl that said that redheads aren’t her type and her partner said slimmer people are his type, Erin was simply saying that ‘the same way he could die his hair, the same way she could get on a treadmill’. Of course, a treadmill isn’t the solution for every person or situation, but she was simply trying to get at “if you can fire, so can I”. The guy wasn’t the girl’s type, the girl wasn’t the guy’s type. Just because commenting on appearance doesn’t seem as critical to the person commenting, it doesn’t mean it isn’t critical to the person receiving the comment. Finally, I was baffled by the comments and started to watch the episode in a very worried way because of it. I Stan with Erin.
Okay I have never commented on a YT video before, but I just felt like I needed to. These videos are honestly the definition of groupthink. Y’all are 30+ individuals yet majority of the time you can’t accept that people have different opinions?? Sometimes I feel bad for Matt and can’t imagine why he even likes participating at this point. He probably already monitors majority of his opinions because of the reaction he anticipates. Idk. I just think it’d be more interesting if everyone could freely express their opinion without someone immediately shutting it down.
As someone who has been overweight the majority of my life and at times bullied, I don’t think the person is in the wrong for calling her chunky after she asked her to stop commenting on her body. I never ever make comments on anyone’s body, everyone’s relationship with their body is so different and often really complex no matter their size. The only time I was ‘skinny’ was when I was eating at all, which then caused rapid weight gain when I couldn’t maintain it. I hate when people comment on mine, even if it’s ‘oh you’ve lost weight’ that they mean as a compliment. My body, in any state, is not something I want up for discussion, opinion or comment.
While I understand that the girl at work should’ve stopped calling her skinny and stuff when prompted and she was the asshole for that, being called chunky or fat is different because it used to discriminate people against. It is very derogatory, and being skinny is the beauty standard. Love you guys and I understand erin being thin and being told that is not excusable, but weight fat/skinny discourse is really complex and can’t be viewed in a black/white lens.
Being the beauty standard doesn’t matter when the girl was literally saying slim in a negative way. Can we all be real and get over acting like being thin is all it takes to be accepted by society.
@@og.hails27 Thank you! Being fat doesn’t give you an excuse to be a bully about someone else’s weight and expect them to ignore you because society gave you a hard time..
I think a lot more people should go by the 5 second rule, if someone can’t fix it in 5 seconds then just don’t comment on it. You never know what someone is going through or their mental state so it’s easier to just not comment on it to anyone imo
Point blank for the first one, the co worker is the ah for making comments on her body to begin with. Having said that I think skinny people are naïve and think skinny shaming is the same as fat shaming when it’s not. It will never be the same. Being skinny will never be frowned upon the same being big is.
It is tho. Just because the world views skinny people as better doesn't mean those people feel better themselves. There's people who love being called fat cuz they don't see it as negative. Your view is very skewed. She asked nicely to not be called those names and the chunky girl was rude about it. You can't tell someone they can't feel a certain way just because society has normalized one thing over the other. These comments are making me so sad.
Erin gets told she looks like a model EVERY DAY. I’ve never seen anyone talk about her weight in a negative way. She has no clue what it’s like to exist in a bigger body and how demoralized you feel by society every. single. day. With a lot of weight problems being caused by a lot of different issues that are harder to control. I agree the OP should have stopped making comments about her coworkers body as soon as she was asked.. but Erin’s fatphobia really rubbed me the wrong way. The beauty standard is LITERALLY being thin.
respectfully, just because you haven’t witnessed someone negatively talk about her weight doesn’t mean that she hasn’t heard it or it hasn’t happened to her!
@@realpicklecitytotally! I’m not saying it never happens. But I watch almost all her content and have never seen any disparaging comments about her body. But watch any plus sized persons videos and there are always comments about their bodies. Society has created a beauty standard where fat people get the shit end of the stick almost always.
@@kateydid_wut of course you don’t see people commenting on her videos talking negatively about her body because the people watching her are her fans and people that support her, so why would they say stuff like that? if her picture was posted on somewhere totally random people would probably say some negative things about her. personally, i have seen her body be attacked in her instagram comments saying she looks like a praying mantis and other mean stuff like that.
100% agree. it totally sucks that erin has gone through experiences where people have bullied her for her body, but i wish she could understand that in no way does that compare to the lived experience of fat people. it's truly a 24/7, daily thing knowing that you are walking around constantly being judged for your body and living in a world that was not build for someone of your size. also, i've never been praised for my body type, but smaller people (especially influencers) experience that every single day. it's just tone deaf to even be comparing the struggles of skinny and fat people in my opinion, let alone using and jusifying derogatory language!
I’m gonna have to disagree. Either way the coworker was wrong for bullying OP about being skinny, OP was hurt and disrespected so he hurt and disrespected her back. You don’t get to decide that OP pain doesn’t hurt as much just cuz of what you see in your life. OP could’ve had an ED. Being fat doesn’t give you a right to bully someone’s weight or be of that an asshole. Anyone who talks about anyone’s weight in a negative is an asshole. Period. But OP just gave her a taste of her own medicine. Now maybe she’ll think twice before she bullies someone about their weight
for the first aita, we have made skinny a compliment when it shouldnt be. just because you are skinny doesnt mean u or more attractive its a toxic thing we say to each other that causes so many of us to be so unhealthily focused on the size of our bodies. because society made it equal to attractiveness and worthiness of love
holy sh*t no way erins fatphobia made me so uncomfortable as a fat woman. i understand being skinny but it definitely is not the same thing as being fat. disappointed
It wasn’t fat-phobia, wow. She pointed out the point of view as someone who’s been on that side of things. If you feel bad about yourself in any type of way it’s annoying and or hurtful to hear comments about it continuously. It’s not a hurt feelings competition, two things can be true at the same time.
@@og.hails27 You don't understand what fatphobia is. Nobody's mad at Erin for her comments about how the first AITA was in the wrong. It was the continuous comments, "fat bitch", "just get on a treadmill", etc. Erin literally looks like a model because she's skinny, she gets paid thousands of dollars every month because she's considered beautiful. Fat people don't experience the same luxury. Skinny people can have hurt feelings too, but they don't experience the regular degradation, the societal humiliation that fat people are subjected to. Please educate yourself before commenting a topic you're clearly not aware about.
It can be frustrating to wait for kids, but it’s ridiculous for someone to think they are more important than a child learning how to exist in society.
erin saying “it’s really annoying when someone is constantly picking and telling on you for something you can’t control” and then saying “go on a treadmill” …like come on erin
person with one arm here; can confirm random people ask consistently. 100% have told ppl it was a shark attack, it fell off, answered “wait, what do you mean?” to throw them off, fake cried to traumatize them in hopes they’ll learn a lesson, etc. people are truly ruthless when it comes to human decency 😂
Yes I agree when Mike said that people might just not be aware of that knocking etiquette and it's better to always specify before taking extreme steps
i think erin saying the starbucks thing is sexual hareassment was a bit of a reach. i think that’s why carly was asking how woke we were gonna be lol. but seriously, it’s just a stupid name and saying it was sexual harassment was a little dramatic
as a starbucks worker i disagree, it’s uncomfortable saying those things out loud to middle age men when i was freshly 18, a lot of my co workers are minors and it’s disgusting, especially since starbucks workers go through so much all ready
i feel like matt is never the asshole & people just shit on him all the time...i can sense he has anxiety and he's trying to be conscious on what he wants to say & even when i disagree on his opinions i rlly feel like he's never rude or morally wrong about it but people still make him feel that way???
I got called CocaineChic by this old lady and I wanted to flip out. I was at work and she was a customer so I bit my tongue. I was well aware I was underweight. I constantly ate and and was a competitive dancer so my metabolism was just nuts. Now that I’ve put on weight everyone has to comment on it and it’s also frustrating. But I say personally I would rather be overweight and be able to change my lifestyle to control it than be underweight and not be able to fix it. And I’m not happy with where I am right now but once I get the motivation I know I can change it. At the same place I also worked with a chick who threw the hot coffee pot at a customer lol that place was wild!
Mike sounds so weird about the barging in situation. Literally thought he was joking at first. He must have did that to his friends when he was in a Fraternity and growing up.
I know right? Girl had no business barging in on people at someone else’s place. Direct or passive aggressive the guy told her what would happen if she keeps doing what’s she’s doing.. she didn’t care.
i don’t think it’s that she necessarily didn’t care rather she simply wasn’t aware that knocking would be preferable. like he said people grow up differently
46:57 my dads father passed as he was literally getting on a flight to Israel to see him, it’s an 11 hour flight and he almost didn’t make the funeral because of how quick it is for Jews. Especially in Israel, it’s common to see even same day funerals. Some cases it’s delayed a day or so (sabbath or holiday, waiting for immediate immediate family, transporting the body to its final resting place) but from the time of death to the funeral it cannot be unsupervised.
All people are the asshole in the first one and let me explain why I feel that way. The “skinny” coworker established a boundary by asking her coworker nicely to stop, and her coworker didn’t respect that boundary. She decided in that moment, that she doesn’t care about her boundaries or hurting her feelings. That is 100% an asshole move. On the flip side to that though, being judged for being fat is VERY different than being judged for being skinny. At the most simplified level yea it is the same thing, neither person can change their natural body type. *However*, fat people have been discriminated against in ways that skinny people don’t. I don’t go to the doctor and have my doctor automatically blame all of my health issues on me being skinny. There’s very different forms of discrimination that they face for being bigger. In addition to that just because something may be justified, that doesn’t make it right. Calling her “chunky” because it may have felt justified, doesn’t make it right. Stooping down to that level makes her the asshole as well. I personally have been bullied my entire life for being short and scrawny, but I’m not going to start contributing to that kind of behavior by doing it back to people who face very different struggles than I do. That’s my take on it anyway, I’m totally open to other perspectives 🤷🏻♂️
Took the words out of my mouth I also grew up a skinny flat girl and have had rude comment thrown at me but because of that experience I would never contribute to making fun of someone’s body especially someone’s who’s weight gets scrutinized way harsher
HELPFUL TIP: Use the 5 second rule when deciding if you should comment on someone’s appearance. You should only comment on any aspect of someone’s appearance if and ONLY IF they can change it in 5 seconds. i.e. weight - this cannot be changed in 5 seconds, so you probably shouldn’t comment on it either way. whether saying ‘skinny’ or ‘fat’, all people have their own insecurities.
wow. never thought i would be leaving a comment like this on my favorite podcast but the first 13 minutes was extremely triggering as someone who is overweight. Erin, Specifically when you said that the girl could just get on the treadmill. thats lkke the most basic fat phobic comment one could make. i am in no way dismissing the rude comments made to slim or redhead, but calling someone chunky is SO different than calling someone slim because of societal standards. being fat in society as a women is extremely difficult and different than being called too skinny bc there is no stigma against being too skinny. the way you guys talked about being chunky compared to slim is so insanely insensitive and i really hope i’m not alone on viewing it this way but i think its really only possible for people who are overweight or have been overweight before to have that level of empathy towards the subject. erin, mike & carly i really hope you actually learn from this comment from someone who has been overweight, cant just get on a treadmill and loose weight that fast & gets treated so differently by society than someone who is skinnier rather than chunky. im really fuming and i hope you can be empathetic in this situation and not roll your eyes and dismiss this comment as hate.
Wow is definitely right with this one. I’m fuming from this. This episode was absolutely disgusting. Erin is absolutely disgusting. They always say that Matt is the most insensitive, but it is definitely Erin. She should 100% apologize but at this point she’ll probably only being saving face and not have any emotion towards an apology. She just doesn’t seem like she would be sorry at all because this is how she is in her everyday life.
I feel like saying you don’t normally go for a certain hair color is not as big of a deal as the guy saying he normally goes for someone fitter #1 a thin body does not mean healthy and a bigger body does not mean unhealthy some people who go to the gym every day and are super healthy are bigger! and that is beautiful and wonderful stop assuming if people are bigger they don’t work out and aren’t fit commenting about someone’s body vs hair is very different
The last story. It didn’t say that he didn’t ask her to knock. He very well could have and she still does it. By him saying “I told her that she could see something” seems to suggest that he’s told her to knock before entering as she could see something. Why would he say that otherwise. I’d be surprised if it had gotten to this point and he hadn’t asked her to knock previously.
agreed, but don’t you think there were other things he could have done to show her she’s wrong other than intentionally expose himself to her? he knew she would come in, so he changed his usual behavior of sleeping under the blankets with the intention of her seeing him naked. Even if he did say that she needs to knock and she didn’t follow through with it, he didn’t need to jump all the way to this response.
as a big girl i 100% agree w erin on the first one. if you’re gonna say things about somebody elses body, be ready for somebody to say something about YOURS.
the fatphobia on the first one yikes, as someone that is overweight and has a tough time losing weight (yes, Erin I do get on a treadmill and I got to the gym) it made me super uncomfortable. I have been bullied and talked about behind my back being made fun of, like skinny people don't get that treatment, being skinny is the beauty standard.
as a barista i understand the barista who dropped the drink bc some days there is so much shit you deal with not only with customers but higher ups that you get hit with a breaking point that you just can’t continue being smiley and nice i dont think i would ever drop a drink on purpose but probably more just blankly stare at the customer while they get their drink
I recently saw a lecture where two medical doctors discussed obesity, obesity is a disease but there is a large stigma that it is not and that people are able to fix it and are considered at fault for their weight. Many people that are obese do the exact same things as other people that are not obese but in reality they do not have complete control over their weight, same as someone skinny trying to gain weight.You can do things to alter it but in reality everyone has their own baseline. I’m not saying you cannot change your weight but it is more of a challenge than just getting on a treadmill.
Matt is actually really brave to be consistently critiqued on the internet and continues to be himself
Don't let people you don't know control your thoughts.
Agreed, I don’t always agree with his opinions but I literally watch all his podcasts for him specifically, I love him!
he likes to stir the pot, he’s mentioned it many times. he’s not brave. he’s a cis white man who loves the attention lmao
Love his expressions!
!!!!! This
the way Erin was joking the whole time that Matt was the ahole for his takes this episode, but it was her all along 💀
RIGHT HAHA
It's literally always her, she is awful 😅
Dude when she said throwing the coffee at a customer was warranted bc of a joke I lost it 💀
Erin “stop telling me to just eat a burger it doesn’t work for me” also Erin “she can just get on a treadmill”. Love the podcast but weight is a complex topic and shouldn’t be spoken about lightly.
came here to say this !!!
Yeah thought this! She doesn’t seem to like bigger people lmao
so agree
great way to summarize her hypocrisy
Okay but Like context. Both situations has overweight people talking about other people’s appearance those people then talked about their appearance… Neither the coworker or the ginger guy said anything about their appearance first, it was only up until their appearance was criticize.
People I wouldn’t wear a bikini in front of:
1.) Erin
Or Matt
Erin did not have one redeeming quality this entire episode lmao
does she ever? lol
@@ashleyelll literally
i agree that both people in the first aita sucked, but erin's take was so so bad. her blatant fatphobia with the treadmill comment and fat b comment was hard to watch. and carly and mike going along with it sucked too. props to matt for holding his ground
But Matt said “it’s a compliment” and “it’s not that bad” completely invalidating skinny peoples feelings and normalizing making fun of them even further. If it wasn’t so normalized to make fun of skinny people and comment on their bodies, than none of this would’ve happened. The treadmill comments and so on were blatantly disrespectful I agree with you there but that doesn’t mean Matt is some stand up guy when he was being problematic too.
@@haydentaylor2872 because being seen as ‘skinny’ has been known to be a compliment. It’s quite literally been the beauty standard for centuries. I know for thinner people sure, being told that doesn’t make things better, but being thin has ALWAYS been more widely accepted than being bigger. I just think the two are incomparable.
@@alexSoto11117 I agree with this! Skinny shaming isnt it either but, Erin didnt have to stoop to the level of people skinny shaming by bringing down a whole other group of people
Who actually cares, relax bud
I appreciate Matt’s differing opinion, it makes for good entertainment and conversation. Keep doing you Matt!
i agree! i feel like if everyone were to just agree on everything it would make for a boring discussion
the Starbucks story - when Carly said "how woke are we gonna be" & "I feel like Donald trump rn" I DIED LAUGHING
Hahaha Erin can’t just put on weight but she thinks big people can just hop on a treadmill?
Nope I can’t !!
I really expected more from her (and the others that were laughing along and not finding a problem with what she was saying)
Erin was like “stop telling me to just eat a burger, it doesn’t work ”
To
"She can just get on a treadmill”.
That was literally her point. Just like some people struggle to lose wait, there’s others who struggle to gain. That was the whole point of her comment.
She said it vaguely. She’s not a actually putting her educated opinion on it. Like let’s relax
I’m so confused on how the three of them gang up on Matt for his opinions but somehow Erin can have her opinion and if you don’t agree with her you are literally wrong??? Matt is the backbone on all his podcast
Also Carly asking how woke are they going to be was the best take on this whole episode
I’m a man and 140 pounds and 6’1 I can understand what it is to be made fun of for being skinny. However, I can 100% see how being called skinny and fat (or any other word that means it) is different. People that are skinny ARE the beauty standard and have always been, everything is catered for us. I want to say this does not give the girl a PASS to be mean and disrespect boundaries when asked to not be called skinny. But both of them are assholes, and for different reasons. I also can’t believe the hypocrisy from Erin, stating that she hated being told to eat more etc. and in the same breath making “fat bitch” “get on a treadmill” comments. They are so damaging to her audience. Very disappointed. Matt thanks for keeping it real.
As someone who’s been fat and very very skinny, I’ve gotten both and being called fat hurts 1000% more but skinny girls will never get that because they don’t understand the absolute hatred people have for fat people. Being called skinny is usually in a jealous way. Not that either is right, people shouldn’t comment about others bodies at all.
1000% I was underweight most of my life then in my late 20s became technically obese, fat comments sting and hurt so much more and someone who has never been fat will never understand and shouldn't pretend to
I’m wondering why erin thinks a stupid naughty name on a cup is sexual harassment and the guy laying naked in hopes that his roommates gf will see him and learn her lesson isn’t. In both of those stories both parties were in the wrong in my opinion but still
my thoughts exactly. a lot of her takes were insanely contradictory throughout this podcast
maybe they should stay away from the weight subject… as someone who is plus size I very much agree that the person who was calling the other slim was also an asshole, but the comments that followed bothered me. erin goes “don’t tell me to eat a cheeseburger” and then a bit later says “just get in the treadmill” and i stopped the podcast and sat shocked. such a double standard. idk i didn’t like how that conversation was handled it made me sad:(
literally exactly what i was going to say. the coworker is still an asshole for calling them slim but erin seems tone deaf on the subject and doesn’t realize shes a hypocrite
It was wild. The double standards make me question all these ppl
She said that referring to how people would tell her to eat a cheeseburger. It’s not bad like relax
Differing opinions are better than everybody having the same opinion. Please remember that
5 mins in and congrats erin u win for worst take!! 👑
i lke you guys but the discussion about fatphobia was PAINFUL, especially disappointed in how easy it was for erin to "joke" about calling someone a "fat bitch" or telling a fat person to just "get on a treadmill" smh. theres a reason the word "fatphobia" exists and "skinnyphobia" or"gingerphobia" dont
and for the record, i also think op was wrong for commenting on someones body, but the way yall responded... yikes. lines were crossed
@@ilaria93 this !!! the fatphobia really jumped out it’s disappointing af
100%! I can see why Erin has a problem with it from her experience but she really does NOT understand how difficult being fat is in comparison to being told she needs to eat more sometimes. She gets told she looks like a model 95% of the time. It’s just not the same thing.
It’s so obvious they’re joking omg
Fat phobia? R u kidding that’s such a stretch she doesn’t hate fat people just cause she made 1 comment… if the girl is offended by being called out physically she should understand why the slimmer girl wanted her to stop
Erins views on things is so wild lmfao
I feel like Erin’s putting her own issues with being skinny on this. I definitely don’t think OP has to apologize and it’s fair to call her coworker “chunky” because she’s asked politely not to be called “slim/toothpick” and her coworker didn’t care. However, the whole “well go on a treadmill” is pretty gross. Erin, fat people go on treadmills. They diet, they starve, they exercise. Just like you can’t gain weight, they struggle with losing weight. But you get told you look like a model by MOST people and fat people are shamed and looked down upon. It’s not the same thing AT ALL.
yep !!!!
Yeah that part made me sad lol like girl come on it’s getting harder and harder to defend her
YESS EXACTLY
YEP!! totally agree
yess the treadmill comment was soo fat phobic lmao
As an overweight person, I don’t really understand being offended by someone calling me “skinny”. But the second she asked the other person to not call her that, that should have been the end of it.
But she was also very wrong for calling her “chunky”. That would make me feel so humiliated
I’ve been both over AND underweight.
You shouldn’t be commenting on someone’s weight/body. That’s why skinny people don’t like being called skinny. It’s the same reason you don’t want to be called fat. It’s someone making a judgement about your body That you didn’t ask for.
@@Carol-mn9xq OP is clearly being humiliated by their coworker for being skinny. So why is she wrong for saying it? Sometimes people need a taste of their own medicine to see they are hurting others. It doesn’t make her an asshole for calling her chunky. I means she’s put up a boundary- the other person refused to stop- so chunky it is.
@@ashleyduckworthyt3224 i just think it could have been handled better. If it were me, I would have called HR. Giving her “her own medicine” would have been my last option, only if nothing else worked.
But in no way am I defending the second girl, if someone is clearly uncomfortable with a nickname, that should be the end of it.
In the additional comments on this AITA she went to the boss who said to handle it on their own. So seemingly no HR To report to. But I wish they had read that part so you can see she got no support from her office staff.
Erins true colors really showed in this episode. extremely selfish and arrogant perspective towards everything
That's your opinion. Just as she has her own. You both are right and wrong. But you commenting negative hate definitely makes you worse.
Always have felt she was a little condescending and arrogant. 🤷♀️
@@kayteebarga9694 not really. as you said everyone has the right to their opinions, and erin willingly posted her opinion online, she’s allowed to be disagreed with publicly.
Lmao Matt totally redeeming himself this entire episode, from pt 1, and not even knowing it 😂😂
The weight topic felt super tone deaf coming from 4 rather slim people. Matt was the only one saying the word chucky was messed up. We live in a world where being on the slimmer side is glorified. I know we’re in this new world of being more accepted but we all know that smaller people just get treated better in every instance.
I get that the woman was using the world slim in a derogatory way but chunky was definitely a meaner thing to say.
"tone deaf" is ableist.
i’ve seriously always loved watching Matt online through all these years
completely agree with matt on the chunky vs slim one. & also as a fat person, there is a history of oppression towards fat people both systemically and socially... commenting on fat bodies will always be more harmful than commenting on skinny bodies because of the history associated with being a bigger bodied person. all that to be said that nobody should comment on others bodies, especially in the workplace, so they're both the asshole.... but again, not equal.
When someone asks you to stop you stop…otherwise it’s harassment. Really they should have gone to management but since she took matters into her own hands and turned it around on her. Why can’t she just reply “it’s my mouth and I can say what I want” to the chunky lady. I agree with Erin
@@haydentaylor2872 sorry, but this is giving all lives matter rhetoric…. i said in my comment that i disagree with either person calling each other names based on weight, but i stand by the fact that derogatory comments towards fat and skinny people are not equal, although both can be harmful in similar ways.
@@kccarter6578 also just to double down on how egregious of a take the all lives matter thing was- big people aren’t being murdered for their weight that they can usually control to some degree, black people are being systemically oppressed and murdered for the color of their skin which they cannot change. The fact that you even compared the two is honestly sickening.
@@kccarter6578 I didn’t even say it’s more or less derogatory- sure calling someone chunky is worse than slim. I agree. But the thin lady who called her chunky did not call her chunky right away. Only after repeated abuse. If her immediate response was to call her chunky she’d be the asshole. But if someone is going to repeatedly pick on you for your weight knowing you don’t like it, you are 100% justified to do the same thing back. The fact that she didn’t react right away is because of the understanding that being called chunky is worse than slim. The argument isn’t fat vs thin. It’s one individual giving her bully a taste of her own medicine. Not comparable to racism at all because racism can only go one way (against the oppressed group) , where body shaming can go towards multiple different groups of people and affects people on both ends of the spectrum.
i agree with matt most times because the rest of them are so rude about the weight comments… being called a negative connotation regarding to over weight is way more offensive than skinny.. like skinny is the beauty standard.
Name calling is name calling the coworker asked her to stop and was told “I can say what I want” so the standard should be the same
but the same way people struggle to lose weight, there are sooo many people who are insecure about being skinny and are actively trying to gain weight. if someone doesn’t want comments about their weight, why would they make comments about someone else’s?
That completely disregards a persons wants and what they communicated they don’t like.
i think it’s just the fact that the girl had already communicated that she was uncomfortable with the remarks about her weight, yet her coworker seemed to comment about it anyways
@@laurenrollins9622 yes i believe both were wrong! it’s the fact that erin was saying “i can’t change being skinny” then saying fat people need to go on a treadmill. Both were bullies but the first girl shouldn’t have started it!
I actually agree with matt on the first one, erin and other thin people have every right to be offended at being called slim etc. but systematically fat people have been called and treated much worse so I think the person is definitely the asshole...
fatphobia is a much larger and complex topic than being called slim 🤷🏻♀
@@audreyjoy6821 then you would think they wouldn't comment on somebody else's weight
Yeah both sides were def assholes in that story
Really?! Even though the woman was asked to stop and refused by giving a bitchy response “it’s my mouth I’ll say what I want” you think the poster is the the asshole?
@@emilyzimmermann9986 yes i agree you shouldn’t comment on someone’s weight at all but i’m more so mad at erin for the way she’s getting on using the word chunky, fat bitch etc. thinking that they are equally offensive to being called slim and thin. They aren’t, simple as that. fatphobia is a much larger issue than being called slim.
For the first one, I think it’s as simple as if the ‘bigger’ woman is talking about the ‘slim’ girls body, she should be prepared for her own body to be spoken about too. Although bigger people have historically been ridiculed, if someone has expressed they are uncomfortable with something, and they’re not listened to, they are well within their right to retaliate. Simply don’t dish out what you can’t dish in
I so agree! Fat has been so much for hateful for ever but the first lady was a plain bully.
I love how mike was like “oh wait” when he was about to go off about people who hate kids when he remembered that Carly and Erin make hating kids their entire personality 😂
lmaooo not at all, they just express they don’t like kids. i feel like that’s not their whole personality at all.
@@nayalaa ok that was an exaggeration. It’s not their whole personality but they make it clear that they HAAAAATE kids quite often.
@@dangerrkylaa lol okay i thought u were one of those people that attacks any woman that doesn’t like kids 😂 sorry got a lil defensive there!
@@dangerrkylaa they don’t even say they hate kids. they just don’t desire to have their one, and carly often says that babies and kids don’t make her feel any type of way like they do for other people. that’s all
I think you should never use foul language in front of kids…not cool, however whether you take longer in a line or not should depend on how many people waiting. For example if 50 people were waiting then take a pass on the life lesson because you are inconveniencing others but if 5 people are waiting and 10 check outs then by all means do it. Teaching your kid to check out is important but so is teaching him to be courteous to others is also equally important
I’m probably going to get some hate for this, but the take on the Starbucks story was painful to me.
I’ve worked in food service before and have been harassed by coworkers and customers both verbally and physically, I’ve had customers threaten me with violence while my coworkers were instigating them from the background, and do you want to know how many times I’ve thrown things at customers, 0 times.
From someone who has been actually assaulted at work a dumb name on a cup is not something that would even be on my radar, at most I would think, “This person is childish.” and then move on with my day.
I would never physically assault a customer with food or anything else because at the end of the day, It’s not worth getting fired, arrested, or sued over something so childish that I won’t even remember it by tomorrow.
nah i like this a lot. good take imo
exactly!!! agree 100% 👏
Understandable and I am probably on your side regarding this. I don’t think I would have gotten so fired up as to throw my drink either but it’s not really fair to compare your tolerance for harassment to someone else’s.
Erin was extremely fatphobic in this video. Her body type is THE beauty standard. Her tone was so unsettling, I’m so disappointed :(
Making fun of a fat person who is making fun of you for being skinny is not fatphobia lmao stop
Agreed. People don’t realize the society aspect of someone who is consider “fat” and someone who is considered “skinny”. I get if you’ve always been thin why you think it’s a double standard but it really is very different. She spoke like someone who doesn’t understand because she’s never experienced it so I get it but you have to think outside yourself sometimes 🤷🏼♀️
I agree. this also isn’t the first time a discussion like this has made her appear that way
It was literally so hard to watch this episode, the hypocrisy is WILD
MATTS EYE ROLL AT 1:03:17 honestly kinda valid there’s weird tension throughout this whole episode between all of them i feel like something def happened off camera between them..
Erin is UNBEARABLE
Carly: don’t add additional details - take them at face value
*first story* WHAT IF SHE HAS AN EATING DISORDER????
Erin had the bad take btw
i really hope you address your treadmill comment and apologize as it was really hurtful to a whole community of people. its not as simple as getting on a treadmill and loosing weight. i have pcos and it takes forever to loose weight. this comment really broke my heart coming from you
@1:01:33 Sylvia Plath didn't "turn it on" as in to heat up food ..it's a gas stove, she turned the gas on and the gas suffocated her
I was screaming this at my phone hahahaa
Me and Matt are the same and I honestly feel like they tease him too much for being himself.
Not Matt using the "I was trolling" card lmao
only like 10 min in but the way matt & erin have swapped bad takes so far in this episode lmao yikes!!!
ikr 🫠 I haven’t gotten far yet either and she’s got me tired alr
before anyone comes to argue - I know it’s wrong to comment on anyone’s body and would personally never do that, under ANY circumstance (including as a response to someone else commenting on mine). there are many fair ways to approach retaliation without doing exactly what you say not to. I would think a reasonable person, who finds it harmful to comment on someone’s body, wouldn’t do that. like it’s pretty simple. so if you think retaliation that stems from fatphobia is appropriate, you’re probably fatphobic - which is a lot more harmful than calling someone thin (society’s standard) .. like come on
@@shedoesstuffsometimes like how did they not bring up the topic that its more socially acceptable to be thin than fat 😭 doesnt make it right to make fun of someone for being thin at all but i do feel like it needed to be discussed. and when erin said go get on a treadmill i rolled my eyes like girl bye. shes upset that people tell her to put some meat on her bones but shes gonna tell fat people to get on a treadmill unprovoked.... like cmon, it screams fatphobia
@@becca5016 THIS omfg the treadmill comment … SIDE EYE
The treadmill comment was so hurtful and irresponsible
The tone that erin used to say "Go walk on a treadmill" was disgusting.
also the way she said "fat bitch" to the hypothetical person.... so disgusting & showed her true fatphobic colors! her life has been so hard being the skinny beauty standard clearly... **eye roll**
These comments are so dense, that’s how she would react if someone was making fun of HER weight. Not how she treats large people for no reason. Stop reaching. So sensitive it’s unreal
@@charliedawn27 actually that was her response to the dating show when the girl says she's not into people with shaved/bald heads and the man goes on to say he doesn't like 'bigger' girls (girl was not even slightly big). Figure out the context of the comment before complaining snowflake.
i’ve been on both ends of the weight spectrum and being called fat is 10000% worse.
"I was kinda trolling" lol Matt its okay to say you hate when you're disliked by people. we all know you weren't trolling, just own the fact that you had an opposing opinion. People pleasing will get you nowhere.
I think people project way too hard, I always thought Matt was obviously half going along being contradictory for the drama of being the contradictory voice. The problem he really had was the same one I do with the AITA subreddit in that you read between the lines in people's stories and see the holes in the story and start to mistrust the entire thing because they're obviously not giving an unbiased explanation...but as the girls said, with this you just have to take things at face value and he wasn't really clicking with that at the time.
Yea, a majority agree with a certain way, but a lot think differently. Just bc Matt’s opinion isn’t the popular opinion of the group doesn’t mean he has to agree or blend in. I often agree with his opinion over theirs or the “popular” opinion. Feel and think and believe how YOU do, if you’re shamed for it. That’s on them.
AITA #1: Erin didn’t seem to be a dick like so many people are saying. There’s people who have difficulty losing weight and people who have difficulty gaining weight, sure, neither issue was mentioned, but what WAS mentioned was that the writer was not okay with being called “slim, toothpick, etc” and made that known therefore that’s totally JUSTIFIED. If you’re going to pick at people’s appearance, don’t be mad when they fire back.
I saw a comment saying that slim/skinny is the beauty standard therefore the comment should not have affected the writer as much. Regardless of what the standards is, that doesn’t mean the writer agrees with that, could have weight gaining issues, or whatever it may be. They respectfully asked the person to stop with the comments and they didn’t.
Also, about the the AITA 1.5 that’s Carly mentioned, the girl that said that redheads aren’t her type and her partner said slimmer people are his type, Erin was simply saying that ‘the same way he could die his hair, the same way she could get on a treadmill’. Of course, a treadmill isn’t the solution for every person or situation, but she was simply trying to get at “if you can fire, so can I”. The guy wasn’t the girl’s type, the girl wasn’t the guy’s type.
Just because commenting on appearance doesn’t seem as critical to the person commenting, it doesn’t mean it isn’t critical to the person receiving the comment.
Finally, I was baffled by the comments and started to watch the episode in a very worried way because of it. I Stan with Erin.
For the one about missing fingers - my grandpa was missing half his thumb and he used to always tell fake stories about what happened
Okay I have never commented on a YT video before, but I just felt like I needed to. These videos are honestly the definition of groupthink. Y’all are 30+ individuals yet majority of the time you can’t accept that people have different opinions?? Sometimes I feel bad for Matt and can’t imagine why he even likes participating at this point. He probably already monitors majority of his opinions because of the reaction he anticipates. Idk. I just think it’d be more interesting if everyone could freely express their opinion without someone immediately shutting it down.
Am I the ahole is always just so awkward lol
As someone who has been overweight the majority of my life and at times bullied, I don’t think the person is in the wrong for calling her chunky after she asked her to stop commenting on her body. I never ever make comments on anyone’s body, everyone’s relationship with their body is so different and often really complex no matter their size. The only time I was ‘skinny’ was when I was eating at all, which then caused rapid weight gain when I couldn’t maintain it. I hate when people comment on mine, even if it’s ‘oh you’ve lost weight’ that they mean as a compliment. My body, in any state, is not something I want up for discussion, opinion or comment.
Yes!!! Normalise not commenting on people’s bodies and eating habits
While I understand that the girl at work should’ve stopped calling her skinny and stuff when prompted and she was the asshole for that, being called chunky or fat is different because it used to discriminate people against. It is very derogatory, and being skinny is the beauty standard. Love you guys and I understand erin being thin and being told that is not excusable, but weight fat/skinny discourse is really complex and can’t be viewed in a black/white lens.
Yeah I was thinking about how to explain this. I agree it is different.
Being the beauty standard doesn’t matter when the girl was literally saying slim in a negative way. Can we all be real and get over acting like being thin is all it takes to be accepted by society.
@@og.hails27 Thank you! Being fat doesn’t give you an excuse to be a bully about someone else’s weight and expect them to ignore you because society gave you a hard time..
I think a lot more people should go by the 5 second rule, if someone can’t fix it in 5 seconds then just don’t comment on it. You never know what someone is going through or their mental state so it’s easier to just not comment on it to anyone imo
Exactly! Love this
Matt’s funny lol! I didn’t see a problem with his opinions on this ep or the last aita ep and it’s more entertaining to hear different views.
Point blank for the first one, the co worker is the ah for making comments on her body to begin with. Having said that I think skinny people are naïve and think skinny shaming is the same as fat shaming when it’s not. It will never be the same. Being skinny will never be frowned upon the same being big is.
It is tho. Just because the world views skinny people as better doesn't mean those people feel better themselves. There's people who love being called fat cuz they don't see it as negative. Your view is very skewed. She asked nicely to not be called those names and the chunky girl was rude about it. You can't tell someone they can't feel a certain way just because society has normalized one thing over the other. These comments are making me so sad.
If you open a closed door, its on you if you don't like what's behind it.
NO ! Don’t ever go into a room without knocking, it’s called privacy. Jeezus. He was def not the butthole.
Moral of the story: Don't comment on other people's bodies. Period.
Erin with the casual fatphobia...
Erin gets told she looks like a model EVERY DAY. I’ve never seen anyone talk about her weight in a negative way. She has no clue what it’s like to exist in a bigger body and how demoralized you feel by society every. single. day. With a lot of weight problems being caused by a lot of different issues that are harder to control. I agree the OP should have stopped making comments about her coworkers body as soon as she was asked.. but Erin’s fatphobia really rubbed me the wrong way. The beauty standard is LITERALLY being thin.
respectfully, just because you haven’t witnessed someone negatively talk about her weight doesn’t mean that she hasn’t heard it or it hasn’t happened to her!
@@realpicklecitytotally! I’m not saying it never happens. But I watch almost all her content and have never seen any disparaging comments about her body. But watch any plus sized persons videos and there are always comments about their bodies. Society has created a beauty standard where fat people get the shit end of the stick almost always.
@@kateydid_wut of course you don’t see people commenting on her videos talking negatively about her body because the people watching her are her fans and people that support her, so why would they say stuff like that? if her picture was posted on somewhere totally random people would probably say some negative things about her. personally, i have seen her body be attacked in her instagram comments saying she looks like a praying mantis and other mean stuff like that.
100% agree. it totally sucks that erin has gone through experiences where people have bullied her for her body, but i wish she could understand that in no way does that compare to the lived experience of fat people. it's truly a 24/7, daily thing knowing that you are walking around constantly being judged for your body and living in a world that was not build for someone of your size. also, i've never been praised for my body type, but smaller people (especially influencers) experience that every single day. it's just tone deaf to even be comparing the struggles of skinny and fat people in my opinion, let alone using and jusifying derogatory language!
I’m gonna have to disagree. Either way the coworker was wrong for bullying OP about being skinny, OP was hurt and disrespected so he hurt and disrespected her back. You don’t get to decide that OP pain doesn’t hurt as much just cuz of what you see in your life. OP could’ve had an ED. Being fat doesn’t give you a right to bully someone’s weight or be of that an asshole. Anyone who talks about anyone’s weight in a negative is an asshole. Period. But OP just gave her a taste of her own medicine. Now maybe she’ll think twice before she bullies someone about their weight
for the first aita, we have made skinny a compliment when it shouldnt be. just because you are skinny doesnt mean u or more attractive its a toxic thing we say to each other that causes so many of us to be so unhealthily focused on the size of our bodies. because society made it equal to attractiveness and worthiness of love
The response from the “identical twin only fans” has me floored! How can you even give the benefit of the doubt on that?
The twin with the OF shouldn’t have used her twins nickname to begin with. I don’t understand how people even disagree with that…
Matt is so unapologetically himself and that’s why I love him. Even if I don’t agree with him you know he’s honest
love these types of episodes! hoping for a part three!
holy sh*t no way erins fatphobia made me so uncomfortable as a fat woman. i understand being skinny but it definitely is not the same thing as being fat. disappointed
It wasn’t fat-phobia, wow. She pointed out the point of view as someone who’s been on that side of things. If you feel bad about yourself in any type of way it’s annoying and or hurtful to hear comments about it continuously. It’s not a hurt feelings competition, two things can be true at the same time.
@@og.hails27 You don't understand what fatphobia is. Nobody's mad at Erin for her comments about how the first AITA was in the wrong. It was the continuous comments, "fat bitch", "just get on a treadmill", etc. Erin literally looks like a model because she's skinny, she gets paid thousands of dollars every month because she's considered beautiful. Fat people don't experience the same luxury. Skinny people can have hurt feelings too, but they don't experience the regular degradation, the societal humiliation that fat people are subjected to. Please educate yourself before commenting a topic you're clearly not aware about.
It’s Mike thinking Sylvia Plath “cooked her head” for me
It can be frustrating to wait for kids, but it’s ridiculous for someone to think they are more important than a child learning how to exist in society.
Just don't comment on people's weight. Skinny or fat. Just don't.
YES and don’t dish if you can’t take (has to be on same level tho cause obviously slim is way less harmful then chunky)
Matt I came to this podcast just because I ran out of Unfiltered episodes to listen to so you do you!!!
erin saying “it’s really annoying when someone is constantly picking and telling on you for something you can’t control” and then saying “go on a treadmill” …like come on erin
person with one arm here; can confirm random people ask consistently. 100% have told ppl it was a shark attack, it fell off, answered “wait, what do you mean?” to throw them off, fake cried to traumatize them in hopes they’ll learn a lesson, etc. people are truly ruthless when it comes to human decency 😂
Yes I agree when Mike said that people might just not be aware of that knocking etiquette and it's better to always specify before taking extreme steps
Interesting how the gang up on Matt Is very preventable but more than one person in this episode said something incredibly problematic.
Y’all Erin has lived her life with thin skinny privilege, what do we expect🤷♀️
i think erin saying the starbucks thing is sexual hareassment was a bit of a reach. i think that’s why carly was asking how woke we were gonna be lol. but seriously, it’s just a stupid name and saying it was sexual harassment was a little dramatic
as a starbucks worker i disagree, it’s uncomfortable saying those things out loud to middle age men when i was freshly 18, a lot of my co workers are minors and it’s disgusting, especially since starbucks workers go through so much all ready
But by definition that is sexual harassment
I totally disagree it was 100% sexual harassment.
I think it’s cute how matt got offended carly and erin have a book club without him
i feel like matt is never the asshole & people just shit on him all the time...i can sense he has anxiety and he's trying to be conscious on what he wants to say & even when i disagree on his opinions i rlly feel like he's never rude or morally wrong about it but people still make him feel that way???
I love the noise mike makes after he laughs lmao
I got called CocaineChic by this old lady and I wanted to flip out. I was at work and she was a customer so I bit my tongue. I was well aware I was underweight. I constantly ate and and was a competitive dancer so my metabolism was just nuts. Now that I’ve put on weight everyone has to comment on it and it’s also frustrating. But I say personally I would rather be overweight and be able to change my lifestyle to control it than be underweight and not be able to fix it. And I’m not happy with where I am right now but once I get the motivation I know I can change it.
At the same place I also worked with a chick who threw the hot coffee pot at a customer lol that place was wild!
Mike sounds so weird about the barging in situation. Literally thought he was joking at first. He must have did that to his friends when he was in a Fraternity and growing up.
I know right? Girl had no business barging in on people at someone else’s place. Direct or passive aggressive the guy told her what would happen if she keeps doing what’s she’s doing.. she didn’t care.
i don’t think it’s that she necessarily didn’t care rather she simply wasn’t aware that knocking would be preferable. like he said people grow up differently
@@jaimiemirella5003 He told her what could happen if she keeps barging in… she kept barging in.. it happened.. now she’s mad. So no she didn’t care.
46:57 my dads father passed as he was literally getting on a flight to Israel to see him, it’s an 11 hour flight and he almost didn’t make the funeral because of how quick it is for Jews.
Especially in Israel, it’s common to see even same day funerals. Some cases it’s delayed a day or so (sabbath or holiday, waiting for immediate immediate family, transporting the body to its final resting place) but from the time of death to the funeral it cannot be unsupervised.
yes in islam too. its Honoring the dead by burying them
The “Anita Moorhead” portion sent me, for obvious reasons 😂
All people are the asshole in the first one and let me explain why I feel that way. The “skinny” coworker established a boundary by asking her coworker nicely to stop, and her coworker didn’t respect that boundary. She decided in that moment, that she doesn’t care about her boundaries or hurting her feelings. That is 100% an asshole move. On the flip side to that though, being judged for being fat is VERY different than being judged for being skinny. At the most simplified level yea it is the same thing, neither person can change their natural body type. *However*, fat people have been discriminated against in ways that skinny people don’t. I don’t go to the doctor and have my doctor automatically blame all of my health issues on me being skinny. There’s very different forms of discrimination that they face for being bigger. In addition to that just because something may be justified, that doesn’t make it right. Calling her “chunky” because it may have felt justified, doesn’t make it right. Stooping down to that level makes her the asshole as well. I personally have been bullied my entire life for being short and scrawny, but I’m not going to start contributing to that kind of behavior by doing it back to people who face very different struggles than I do. That’s my take on it anyway, I’m totally open to other perspectives 🤷🏻♂️
Took the words out of my mouth I also grew up a skinny flat girl and have had rude comment thrown at me but because of that experience I would never contribute to making fun of someone’s body especially someone’s who’s weight gets scrutinized way harsher
I just feel like if someone continues to bite me after I asked nicely for them to stop… they can get bit back
Petition for part 3, 4, and 5!!!
Two wrongs don’t make a right yall
The “Good Luck” from Matt did it for me
I hate the excuse “oh their are worse things that can happen” it just belittles your feelings. You have the right to feel a certain way.
33:57 “shit bow” I acknowledge that Matt 😂
HELPFUL TIP: Use the 5 second rule when deciding if you should comment on someone’s appearance.
You should only comment on any aspect of someone’s appearance if and ONLY IF they can change it in 5 seconds.
i.e. weight - this cannot be changed in 5 seconds, so you probably shouldn’t comment on it either way. whether saying ‘skinny’ or ‘fat’, all people have their own insecurities.
wow. never thought i would be leaving a comment like this on my favorite podcast but the first 13 minutes was extremely triggering as someone who is overweight. Erin, Specifically when you said that the girl could just get on the treadmill. thats lkke the most basic fat phobic comment one could make. i am in no way dismissing the rude comments made to slim or redhead, but calling someone chunky is SO different than calling someone slim because of societal standards. being fat in society as a women is extremely difficult and different than being called too skinny bc there is no stigma against being too skinny. the way you guys talked about being chunky compared to slim is so insanely insensitive and i really hope i’m not alone on viewing it this way but i think its really only possible for people who are overweight or have been overweight before to have that level of empathy towards the subject.
erin, mike & carly i really hope you actually learn from this comment from someone who has been overweight, cant just get on a treadmill and loose weight that fast & gets treated so differently by society than someone who is skinnier rather than chunky.
im really fuming and i hope you can be empathetic in this situation and not roll your eyes and dismiss this comment as hate.
Wow is definitely right with this one. I’m fuming from this. This episode was absolutely disgusting. Erin is absolutely disgusting. They always say that Matt is the most insensitive, but it is definitely Erin. She should 100% apologize but at this point she’ll probably only being saving face and not have any emotion towards an apology. She just doesn’t seem like she would be sorry at all because this is how she is in her everyday life.
You guys should do an episode about animals! Like what pets you grew up with, what you have now, what your dream pets are, cool animal facts ext!
Guys just say am i the bad guy lol
I feel like saying you don’t normally go for a certain hair color is not as big of a deal as the guy saying he normally goes for someone fitter
#1 a thin body does not mean healthy and a bigger body does not mean unhealthy
some people who go to the gym every day and are super healthy are bigger! and that is beautiful and wonderful
stop assuming if people are bigger they don’t work out and aren’t fit
commenting about someone’s body vs hair is very different
The last story. It didn’t say that he didn’t ask her to knock. He very well could have and she still does it. By him saying “I told her that she could see something” seems to suggest that he’s told her to knock before entering as she could see something. Why would he say that otherwise.
I’d be surprised if it had gotten to this point and he hadn’t asked her to knock previously.
agreed, but don’t you think there were other things he could have done to show her she’s wrong other than intentionally expose himself to her? he knew she would come in, so he changed his usual behavior of sleeping under the blankets with the intention of her seeing him naked. Even if he did say that she needs to knock and she didn’t follow through with it, he didn’t need to jump all the way to this response.
Mike telling Matt he wouldn't talk to him if he was missing an arm was so funny!! haha
I loved this episode, I’d love to see more of these!
Mike. With that last naked AITA he said he told her “you could’ve knocked and she said but i didn’t and she giggled”
Happy birthday Carly 🎂🥳🎉🎈
as a big girl i 100% agree w erin on the first one. if you’re gonna say things about somebody elses body, be ready for somebody to say something about YOURS.
the fatphobia on the first one yikes, as someone that is overweight and has a tough time losing weight (yes, Erin I do get on a treadmill and I got to the gym) it made me super uncomfortable. I have been bullied and talked about behind my back being made fun of, like skinny people don't get that treatment, being skinny is the beauty standard.
1:14:59 lmaooo matt recording mike like a karen
as a barista i understand the barista who dropped the drink bc some days there is so much shit you deal with not only with customers but higher ups that you get hit with a breaking point that you just can’t continue being smiley and nice i dont think i would ever drop a drink on purpose but probably more just blankly stare at the customer while they get their drink
I recently saw a lecture where two medical doctors discussed obesity, obesity is a disease but there is a large stigma that it is not and that people are able to fix it and are considered at fault for their weight. Many people that are obese do the exact same things as other people that are not obese but in reality they do not have complete control over their weight, same as someone skinny trying to gain weight.You can do things to alter it but in reality everyone has their own baseline. I’m not saying you cannot change your weight but it is more of a challenge than just getting on a treadmill.