Begode Master Unboxing & Deep Dive: Their Best Suspension EUC had Some Issues
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- Опубліковано 22 сер 2024
- We unbox and test the Begode Master and find a few issues with the Best Suspension EUC ever made by Begode. The Begode Master EUC is one of the most anticipated electric unicycles of 2022. The Begode Master combines Begode and Gotway power with suspension to make an amazing EUC.
In the past, choosing a suspension wheel, meant less power. With the Begode Master, you get the benefits of suspension along with 134 volts of power to make most EUC enthusiasts happy.
My Begode Master written review/blog: eucguide.com/t...
This wheel is special. But like all new release EUCs, there is room for improvement.
Current pricing and availability for the Begode Master: shrsl.com/3i2es
Special thanks to Jason at Ewheels for lending us this EUC to test.
Safety gear Andrew and I wear: bit.ly/2UMQmr6
My EUC blog: www.eucguide.com
My IG: / oneradwheel
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My Twitter: / oneradwheel
Disclosure: We do not get paid to make reviews, but Ewheels sent us this EUC to test and review. Purchases made through our affiliate links may offer a commission that goes towards supporting this channel and our websites. A production of Just Create Ltd. with Ride PEVs LLC
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Begode/Gotway will win the race based off experience and the fact that they’ve improve with each new wheel. I’m getting my commander next month and I’m gonna be loving it.
Keep me posted on your Commander!
@@freshlycharged oh definitely. It was actually the Abrams, but there is too many reports of the cutouts right now. As soon as they fix the issue I’m getting one. That’s my ideal wheel. I’m 6 2
@@2slice805 Commander hs and ht owner here. It's an underrated low key solid wheel. People aren't getting it because the Sherman max has no overheating issues plus the more expensive cost. But install diy fans, and it's a beast of a wheel! I can't get it to beep!
@@vtran1082 sweeeeeeet!!! I’m actually getting the HS version. Then the Master in the summer time. I’m coming from the Gotway 84v. I make my decisions based off wha my heart says. Not off what these UA-camrs says. Thanks much Bro
@@vtran1082 where can I get the diy fan to purchase?
Going to have to start adding an athletic cup to our safety gear!
Great review, this is like the wheel I always wanted but didn't exist at the time I bought my RS (I think the V11 and S18 were the only ones out at the time, maybe EX was coming out soon?)
But I wanted the suspension, high speed, and torque (and acceptable battery capacity). I hope they update it to sort out the trolley handle issue (and tail light) Things like that are a bummer when wheels are getting into $3,000+ pricepoints, but first iterations are rarely perfect.
The product will only get better as we provide helpful feedback to them. This feels like a 3rd or 4th draft.
I keep watching your unboxing vids, because I don't want to miss it when the flimsy table finally gives out.
HA! Andrew and I keep saying that too! But if it ain't broken, why fix it? We should take bets... under/over that the table breaks before the end of the year.
@@freshlycharged The way these wheels keep getting heavier, it'll be soon.
Why not turn the pump upside down and push it down against the concrete ground? 😉👍
Thanks for showing what an absolute passion it was to pump up the suspension. Reminds me of Begode's EX and how one needed to beast the pump to fill the shocks.
Also, fantastic review. Thanks for taking the Master out and putting it through a few paces. It's a suspension wheel that I'm going to buy as my next EUC and KS still is #1 for that.
You are a pump savant! Thanks for the tip.
For some reason I really like this barebones EUC, the aesthetic is nice
Great review! Yup my rear light is broken after impact, mudguard broken off, and kickstand bent.
Nice review as always guys. Adam over at Wrong way noted a huge flaw with the Master.... the battery system does not allow the wheel to operate at all if one battery pack fails as the Master is wired in series to get its 134v, not parallel like other wheels.. there is no redundancy and even if one cell goes.. the wheel cuts off instantly.. something to be aware of
Adam @wrongway is the man! That is a big flaw...
@@freshlycharged like yourself.. he has only done his unbox and first impression.. he hasn't done the teardown yet.,. but that was the first major priority issue he mentioned on safety aspect...
the upside to the way its wired is less chance of fire as each pack is only like 35v according to EUC Upgrades
@@ZenLee so we have to choose between the risk of fire or risk of cut out?😬
@@freshlycharged I don't think the risk of cutout is high, unless you've damaged your unit, or pushing it too hard under 40% but guess time will, I've been pushing it hard and its performed perfectly.
new begode design : auto-eject trolley handle 😂😂 good review guys👌🏻
Turn the hand pump (push rod) towards the floor and push the pump's cylinder down towards the floor. Wrks4me👍
Thanks for the great review Jimmy and Andrew! I just got back from riding the Master. I agree with almost everything you brought up. I do really love the power delivery and ride of the wheel. It has torque and speed like nothing else. I am hoping the same upgraded shock Alienrides used on the Hero will also work for the Master. I think once you get ride of the stock one it should be much better.
The stock shock is great for rough roads... anything more intense deserves an upgrade.
Alienrides doesn’t offer a coil spring on the hero currently without multi week wait for some reason. If you want spring, not air, plan to wait out the KS s22.
for some reason i thought the first part of this vid title said Bodega master😄
@@freshlycharged Is the giveaway on my highlighted comment a scam? Seems like it is. Lemeno
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I feel like after watching this, the Master should only be sold as how Roger has his
Get a Milwaukee m18 tire inflator, not only can you use it for your car tires, you can use it for this as well. You can put it in your car or backpack when you’re on the go.
I’ll check it out!
I glad you mention these things and reiterate the problems. Hopefully new batches comes fixed.
Noticed the helmet change. Thought between the Pass vs. Predator???? Thanks for the vid! Great work!
You have a schnauzer!!!! I just lost mine past January. He was 17.5 yrs old. Keep up the good work guys
Sorry for your loss. 17.5 years! Wow! Our guy just turned 1.
Very good comparative video between the S22 and the Master. Very descriptive and informative.
Glad it helped!
Thanks for the review. Great job 👏 glad you were not hurt
Thanks for watching!
I just got an EX N HT w/ the Litech battery pack from Ewheels. It also came with these nice spiked pedals, I was really impressed. That and the collapsible handle isn't cheap thin metal anymore, its actually usable!!
You mean the same collapsible handle which broke on Zen Lee new Master?
The same handle which cracked on EUC Upgrade new Master?
Now the S22 has the new firmware update with more torque … I would say this is the best street suspension and the Eagle is the best all terrain suspension wheel, you gotta give it to king song , they have the best suspension and mtn riders will in my opinion choose the eagle, you don’t go over 25/30mph on bike trails , the added travel is necessary for a lot of rocky trails and jumps
@@Scifi_Ape he should have kept the pre order because now the torque is much better after they updated the firmware… think that fire did a lot more good than it did bad ;)
Love the torque, display, and seated area of the Master, but I don't think it would hold up to the same amount of abuse that early reviewers did to the S20. I also wonder what would happen to those batteries in a crash if someone took off the Begode pads and managed to put on something aftermarket. At least the front bumper on the S22 is an easily replaceable part and cheap enough to stock up on replacement bumpers. Having your light get damaged is a bigger issue.
Hear me out jimmy and Andrew I think you guys should branch out more like gas scooters ev and gas go karts. You guys got a great knack and charm for tech related stuff and think broadening your content would bring in alot more subscribers.
Omg Jimmy, i wished you found my pump tip for easy pumping. I keep laughing 😂. Great video!!!
Great video, Guys!!! Looks like you slid out because of that drifty tire lol. Cant wait to see what everyone does with this wheel!!
As far as pumps go I can highly recommend the Tavaler rechargeable tire inflator. It has a rechargeable battery pack, you can set the target pressure you want & it's good enough to fully inflate 4 car tires. It's also small enough to carry in your daysack.
this is the kind of review i'm looking for🤟
What do you look for in a review?
There’s a hand pump for car tires. You can use your feet to anchor as you use your arms to pump so you get more leverage.
You'd think that they would know.
Why aren't you including the EX2.0S (which appears to just be a variant version of the Hero anyways) but as far as the new line of suspension wheels go- my pick is probably going to be the EX2.0sHS only because I like the raw stripped down appearance and the all metal construction. Plus it's only a 100v wheel but the 100v system is tried true & tested unlike these 120+volt systems. So I'm a little more trusting and confident that it's not going to fail (like the s20 in NY)
You guy's are legends. 👍 I see the Zumba classes are paying off very agile dismount. I hope Begode take your and Andrew's review and modify some of the problems. 👍🇦🇺
I hope so too! Zumba nation! Shake it!
Thanks…saved me $4000!! What junk. Awesome as always Jimmy!!🙏
Junk? Lolol. Begode makes the best on the market. Sure there's improvements and stuff with each generation to make. But at least they fix stuff and learn. They're still the best out there.
@@WeAreChoasIncarnate Look at that you won a wheel !!
@@DonovanWert 😂😂😂
The original air shock, even set to lowest resistance , is acting too slow to small bumps, and if you pump it with too much pressure to avoid bottom-out, it's way too high and stiff. air shock upgrade is necessary. I did upgrade to DNM shock with good result.
I appreciate your vids dude - sur ron rider here with 8000 miles 2xsets of wheels/tires, 5 brake systems as mtn bike componets not robust enough for weight power of bike - been on E kick long before fuel prices made it cool like 15 years - built a bike from scratch prior to surron an honest 80mph bike but could not keep controllers from burning up from amperages - prefer mid drive setups as big hub motors while quieter have terrible reliability in wheel builds & not advantageous to handling - in seattle area - keep up the vids market is exploding!
Just get a digital air pump that connects to your car's power outlet. It's gamechanger and you can pump your car or euc tires with accurate psi
man.. Hans and Franz .. i haven't thought of them for ages Jimmy.. nice one!
Showing my age...
@@freshlycharged lol.. you're not alone - then again put me on a wheel and I don't feel old, I feel like a 12 year old on my BMX
Pump you up! Lol!
Thank you for the review! I appreciate your clarity of details.
Thank you Jimmy & Andrew for another great EUC review video!
I noticed you both sporting the "Predator" helmets.
How do you like that helmet?
Looks sweet!
J.Chang Chest Pump Manuever. 6:05 😁 Crotch rocket handle 19:35
Kingsong sends out preproduction units for testing. While Begode is selling preproduction units. The Master is already in consumers hands. Even the Ex20s is already out.
I would wait for batch 3 for the Master.
Great review, I had concerns with longevity of cycle life with the samsung 21700-40T "Cycle life: 250 cycles to 60% at 6A charge and 35A discharge." vs the samsung 21700- 50 E "Cycle life: 500 cycles to 3802mAh (80%)" with expected 40 miles real riding conditions that means 8-10k mile life span vs 20k mile life span... I guess if the rest of the unicycle breaks before you hit that mileage it wont matter, but that was my concern. Would be so much more efficient to use nuclear energy, come on Begode...
Where did you pull those battery ratings from?
One is to 60% and the other 80%, it doesn’t look like you can compare the results directly.
Plus it’s not like the battery becomes unusable after 250 cycles.
It loses max charge but it will continue working
@@darkstar4494 lygte-info.dk/review/ batteries2012/Common18650comparator.php delete spaces.
compare each cell. I understand what you are saying, but after 250 cycles your expected range will be reduced to 20 miles. a molicel wouldnt have that issue but is more sensitive to temperature extremes.
Great! Would love to see a video on the safety gear you wear
I AM A SCOOTER GUY BUT I WOULDN'T MIND LEANING TO RIDE A EUC THEY LOOK SO COOL
WHY ARE YOU YELLING?
The poor pump hahahaha. I got a nicer pump after realizing how bad the generic pumps are at higher pressures. 250+PSI super easy now.
I am looking forward to seeing other shocks people fit into the Master. A smaller chamber should help a ton with the bottoming out, the stock shock isn't progressive enough. It's a shame they put such a lackluster shock in.
The handle fragility is disappointing, and there are the usual GotWay design oversight type stuff, like the missing holes in the foam, the rubber bumpers on the stand not really being in the right place, and lack of water proofing. But also like a GotWay, it looks to be easy to work on, and I think waterproofing DIY shouldn't be too awful.
I'm still looking forward to it. The S22 is just too wide for my legs, while the Master I can stand over okay. I'm a tinkerer and don't totally mind dialing in the wheel to me, but I can totally see the appeal of something with more polish and togetherness. An exciting time for EUCs, nonetheless =)
brilliant review guys
thanks!
Great work Hanz and Franz.
Many thanks! Do you know what that's from? Andrew does not.
@@freshlycharged SNL in the early 90s.
BTW Love yourr EUC reviews. Keep up the great work.
@@rexradar9297 back when SNL was funny!
OMG, they need to fix the handle popping up, it wasn't even a long stairs or high speed. Also the back light is so like glass, so disappointing after spending thousands of hard earned dollars. Begode please fix the handle (safety issue to my most important body part), and the back light cover (so prototype feel).
The CST 186 on this wheel is known for unpredictable turning characteristics like you experienced around 17:40. It would probably feel a lot better with either lower pressure or switching to a Kenda 262.
Strange we have put cst tyre on the s22 and it's amazing !!! Think because of the wider rim and the lower centre of gravity 🤔 just rides perfect.. plus most s18 and msp , gt have the same tyre on it and all perform well... but the master seems to pull to the sides..
loved the SNL quote !
Begode Master, a high performance wheel with a good suspension (with flaws), full with cheap materials and design flaws, but the worst is the 134V battery system with 4 battery packs connected in series.... If one battery pack is off means you will have 100% faceplant.
Master hype is over for me. I was so close to buy this wheel....
Interesting choice to put them in series, what's the reason to do so?
@@freshlycharged , from what I understand, they did this to reduce the risk of fire. Each battery pack has 33.6V (33.6V x 4 packs = 134.4V), which means low voltage = low risk of fire. Here's a video of the flaw ua-cam.com/video/OD-76wujK-4/v-deo.html and another one from @EUC UPGRADES, ua-cam.com/video/raYYclkA7xA/v-deo.html
@@freshlycharged each pack can be 1/4 of the total voltage so a lot less angry in terms of fire danger.
@@BigChiefWiggles lower pack voltage does not decrease the fire risk, it is the chemistry when exposed to air once the casing is compromised eg large current exceeding battery limits causing heat and expansion. I personally have experienced a fire like the ny s20 with just a 14.4v lipo ! not as big of course but burns just as ferocious
You would get a different outcome depending on the way you have the suspension dialled in. You said that while going down the stairs that the Master bottomed out, could that be the reason the trolley handle pops up.
I watched a wrong way video and he only pumped up the suspension to 200 psi, by the way you were forcing it with the supplied pump I would think that's all you were meant to pump it up . Although I don't have a manual infront of me but It's easy to make an EUC look bad if you don't use it properly.
Nice, got one on order from EWheels and will get the 40T packs. I ride the RST w Mollicel 42a packs and can attest to their power and able to ride low battery percentage (teens) before I notice reduced power. Highly recommend high capacity packs, they’re safer too. I’d like to see the fender material on this swapped, plastic inner and metal outer. Those beeps when laying on the kickstand is annoying and don’t see any purpose whatsoever so I likely will rarely use it. Otherwise, looking like a strong wheel. Good unboxing, thanks.
You can get a pump used for air guns, since they are standing pumps they are way easier. You will need an adapter though
Great stuff! One question, what’s the name of the intro song in the very beginning? :)
Would a mountain bike shock pump work? A lot better than that thing they sent with it.
Hope my master gets to EWheels quick hope I get by beginning of june
Try rechargeable portable electric pump. They work great.
For the pump : press it against the wall with both arms. :p
Damn i gotta try that stairs trolley handle trick and see if it pops up on mine. Will report back. I also faced the same issues when pumping the suspension. Im surprised you guys prefer the suspension on the s22. I felt it was very stiff in comparison to air suspension, granted i just tested it at a demo vs owning the Master. The crash on turns is due to the combination of higher pedals and crappy knobby tire. That tire has also that hidden feature of making you lean on a side faster during strong wind gusts. Tire change is mandatory in the Master!! Good video!!
Thanks Ronin! I agree, probably the tire and probably my lack of experience riding the Master. Our S22 suspension was so good and easy to adjust. Keep up the great work on your channel!
@@freshlycharged thank you very much🙏🙏
What camera are you filming with, the clarity is awesome ?
Got the S22 on preorder- dunno if I want to switch to Master. That plastic battery casing doesn't instill confidence
It's so shiny though! :)
The Begode Master
Looks like it's extremely nice.
Very fast great range.
GIYO High Pressure Shock Pump, (300 PSI Max) for Fork & Rear Suspension, Lever Lock on Nozzle No Air Loss
so am i going to have to put the batteries on when it comes in? kinda dumb imo
does anyone have an opinion on the Batteries being connected in series, if a fault develops in any part on any battery and the bms shuts it down as it is meant to do, then face plant guaranteed
same issue with other begode master owner, the auto popup handle :-D
begode hero also have similar issue
I watched that fall so many times trying to understand what happened regarding the fall at 17:19, could you shed some light on this please. Personal I think that it is the tire, I had a similar experience when testing the Master.
Yeah. Me too. I think it is a combination of tire, unfamiliarity with the wheel, and possibly the soft suspension compressing during the turn, something Andrew referred to earlier during that ride. Didn’t have any problems later though.
Hi Jimmy, I'm watching the video right now but check out French USA's pump technique on his Hero, it'll help out a lot
Great SNL reference, lol
I need all the help I can get!
No extra charge from Begode for the crotch shot, lol
Hi guys, in some reviews people complain that the pedals are too high and it harms the stability of the wheel on 50+ speed and makes it not safe for big speed. And also that default tyre does not fit the city. True?
Thanks for this nice review! I ordered my Master one month ago and i do not think i will receive it before end of june (i live in Canada). Anyway for the trolley handle, is it possible to just remove the popup spring and have it act like my S18? or change the push button spring for a mush stronger one? Also first thing i will do when i receive it is design and 3D print Nylon bumpers screwed on the top shock bolts to better protect the rear light.
Jim carry back in the day when he was in in living color.
Uggggg! I'm going to be living in a nursing home before these companies get their quality on par with the prices they're charging.
I'll be reviewing electric wheelchairs at that time, so make sure to subscribe! :)
@@freshlycharged Ha! Nice.
Gimme a 16x bulletproof. Way more r&d needed on these latest suspension wheels. Way better quality needed 🙏🏼
use the Milwaukee M12 battery powered pump it's pretty accurate.
So how big is the price discount for this DIY EUC?
🤔🤔plastic casing for protecting the batteries?
Why didn't they give the option for the Molicell p42a? That's the best cell out of all of them
Supply... Molicels are backordered from Taiwan for the next six months...
I see you riding right after the pad installation. Mine beeps at about 21 mph right out of the box. Is there something that I'm doing wrong ? Does it need to have the alarms adjusted?
Would a tiny electric pump that goes up to 120 psi help me airing it up much?
My toxic trait is thinking I can hop on an electric unicycle for the first time and ride like Andrew and Jimmy.
Great review guys, loving alot of aspects about this wheel your right about how many suspension wheels begode have come out with before this one... but they are still behind in the suspension department in comparison to kingsong 🤔. I hope they get those few niggles sorted like the handle popping up, protecting/make stronger rear light, better front light.... it would help if the pedal height could be adjusted too . Even without those things it's a top road wheel. I reckon ks will over come their short falls a la the 16x and look how good that turned out.. ks don't seem to have to make so many different wheels before they make a good one, middle of next year will be the time to buy the ks22 they've already improved the initial torque alot just with software upgrades and there will be more to come knowing them ,
Look forward to more content from you 👍
Thanks for the support and insight!
@@freshlycharged 👍
It seems like the S22 suspension is still better but all these early reviews severely underpumped this shock. I understand begode gave no information at the time but a 200lb rider should be at like 350lbs not 250.
who tf is designing those suspension wheels, not best engineers to say the least, it's almost 3 yrs since s18 and nobody could get it right and durable like a dirt bike
Hi Jimmy, I love you content & channel. I'm VERY NEW to making content on UA-cam, & doing reviews, I've had A MILLION DOORS slammed in my face "trying" to grow traction, getting e-Bikes to test & review, I have an affiliate deal with an e-Bike company, because I've helped them sell a good amount of e-Bike's from my posts on Reddit, Facebook & other platforms, but I can't get any other company to see my worth, reviewing their products, well that's if they're good, if it's crap I'll say it is! 😂
I wish I had money to buy TONS of toys to review, so my channel would grow, but I've been unemployed due to long term Covid, & almost dying twice from it in the last year, so I really can't work a traditional job right now, I REALLY NEED this to work, especially because I'm a single father with no help, & no income for a year already, have no more valuables to sell to keep us afloat!
Can you give me any good advice?
Thank you! 👍
Have you tried pumping Air while wheel is laying down… Cause your pumping air with the weight of the wheel as a risistance… I think? Also Isnt temperature directly proportional to air compression… hmm…
With the batteries on the outside, is it possible to ride it in the rain?
nice video :)
random filming tip - dont film people's faces unless they're speaking. it feels awkward for them when they have to just sit there and smile for long periods.
Why don't they just build a protective roll cage around it? Seems like a great wheel but with a cheap, flimsy exterior.
so what do you think 5 or 10 years until someone makes a good wheel that Dosn't look like a garage build
Pretty sure those chargeports aren’t live on the Master right?
Hmmm... let me get a paperclip.
get those battery pack tyre inflator kit or bicycle stand pump.
Compared to the suspension of the Inmotion V11, is this smoother or more coarse?
Exposed power cables? Or are they fully covered?
They are covered by a fabric material
Jimmy- what is the riding update on it- let's say after 5k of riding - not 1k
At 5:10 - what are those awesome shoes?
I custom made the Van's MTE on their website.
Parabéns parabéns gostei parabéns parabéns
There is something wrong with the valve or the connection blocking the air flow, the pump shouldn't be that hard to use
Seems like the pads are an issue in all the reviews. that rear light cover needs attention before production release for sure.
People already received the production model. There is no preproduction model.
Begone vs Master ??🙏
Those beeps when putting it on its stand would get annoying
Inmotion s22 🚀
What helmet are you using?
It sounds like a good idea to get testers out testing wheels for a solid few months to figure out what’s wrong with the wheels so they can adjust before the production… that’s the redeeming quality for the king song since they fixed so many issues, Hope master will be able to do the same before it’s given out
People already received the Master. There is no preproduction unite.
@@BunnyslippersEUCohhhhh I don’t like that lol , unless they can perfect the wheel before they actually release it which blows my mind why they can’t but they do make a wheel a year so always something new
@@thefoss721 Wait for batch 3.
@@BunnyslippersEUC yeah that’s always smart but idk if I’d ever be able to wait that long, the wait for the Eagle was hard enough when they revealed it last year, but like the master yeah I’d probably wait a few generations, or maybe even the Master 2/3. But till then I just ride king song because I’ve had the best reliability with them so far, absolutely no issues on my S-18 so the Eagle will probably be great if you take care of her
@@BunnyslippersEUC are you gonna order a master? Or just checking em out