6 Games That Aren't Fun - with Tom Vasel

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  • @bricelory9534
    @bricelory9534 7 місяців тому +12

    Ah yes, graffiti artists are renowned for their passion for acquiring permits for their paintings.

  • @kaboodledoodledoo
    @kaboodledoodledoo 7 місяців тому +32

    God, I love reviews of "bad stuff". That Lights Out Racing review made my day, I laughed so hard at your expressions XD

    • @bgamer3316
      @bgamer3316 6 місяців тому

      I've played Lights Out Racing at a friends and enjoyed it. Looks like Tom's kinda mixed up on the rules, especially about the ERS stuff. He missed that there are more ways to save up energy than just sitting tight and not moving. Understanding the ERS can really pay off when you play it right. I plan to buy this game when it goes on sale.

  • @Zalasta524
    @Zalasta524 7 місяців тому +101

    Am I the only one that read the title of the video as “Six games that aren’t fun [to play] with Tom Vasel”? I thought perhaps it was a new series from Zee or Mike where they roast Tom.

    • @piratedoggames1332
      @piratedoggames1332 7 місяців тому

      I was just going to comment about that. 😄

    • @rasmusolesen5307
      @rasmusolesen5307 7 місяців тому +2

      Commas saves lives ;)

    • @DrMcFly28
      @DrMcFly28 7 місяців тому +2

      I read it as 'Six games that aren't "Fun with Tom Vasel"'

    • @JamesWilson-ux6fi
      @JamesWilson-ux6fi 7 місяців тому +3

      Yeah part of me was definitely hoping this was a joke video from Zee!

    • @peterevensen
      @peterevensen 7 місяців тому

      @@DrMcFly28me too

  • @onedaywestgames6080
    @onedaywestgames6080 7 місяців тому +7

    Thank you for taking time to check out and review Sheep Boom Bah!

  • @robertthurman9866
    @robertthurman9866 7 місяців тому +19

    Formula One races are started when red lights go out on the starting grid.

  • @JesterJayJoker
    @JesterJayJoker 7 місяців тому +40

    Kid: Mom, I want Heat: Pedal to the Metal.
    Mom: We have Heat: Pedal to the Metal at home!
    Lights Out Racing 😢

    • @astrp3
      @astrp3 7 місяців тому +9

      More Like:
      Kid: Mom, I want Heat: Pedal to the Metal.
      Mom: What? I already bought you Lights Out Racing and you only played i1 once.
      Kid: But mom, that game stinks!
      Mom: It certainly does not. It's a perfectly fine game. I mean, it's no Monopoly, but what is? And speaking of that, you never play Monopoly either. You never play Monopoly. You never play Life. You never play Uno! You never play Go Fish. Those are the best games ever made. And now you want me to buy you ANOTHER game? No way. You said you wanted a "modern" game. Well, I got you one and you don't play it, so yo won't be getting any more games from me. You've already got plenty of games you can play.

    • @joshfrench5858
      @joshfrench5858 7 місяців тому

      Lol

    • @JonReid01
      @JonReid01 7 місяців тому

      20:45

    • @joshfrench5858
      @joshfrench5858 7 місяців тому +1

      @@JonReid01 I know what time it is.

    • @JonReid01
      @JonReid01 7 місяців тому

      @@joshfrench5858 it's hammer time

  • @andyreynolds6473
    @andyreynolds6473 7 місяців тому +19

    Leave it to Queen Games to use their typical bland pastel artwork in a game about graffiti tagging.

  • @MarshaKay605
    @MarshaKay605 7 місяців тому +3

    I really enjoyed Sheep Boom Bah on Board game arena so much I bought it to play with my son. It’s a good family game if you don’t mind the luck and take that. The strategy comes from choosing when to play your cards but there are games where another player will find their barn super early and you do so they win the game before you can even find yours but it’s a pretty quick game to set up and play again.

    • @onedaywestgames6080
      @onedaywestgames6080 7 місяців тому

      We are glad that you and your family are enjoying the game!

  • @nickvandam1214
    @nickvandam1214 7 місяців тому +4

    I love the Christmas movie theme, we do that with Rory's Story cubes Untold Adventures game.

  • @kookaburrito6771
    @kookaburrito6771 7 місяців тому +8

    That may be my favorite hat of yours Tom! Stylin'!

  • @nreekm
    @nreekm 7 місяців тому +5

    The more Tom described how Zoo Tycoon is complex the more I was into it. I mean, I love Feudum, it cant be worse than that.

    • @Baploveslife
      @Baploveslife 7 місяців тому +1

      haha I know what you mean. Feudums my No.1 🤗👍🏻

    • @MTDeFrance
      @MTDeFrance 7 місяців тому +3

      Yeah. Most of what he was complaining about are features I most enjoy. I can’t wait for the expansion to be released.

  • @danacoleman4007
    @danacoleman4007 7 місяців тому +7

    Considering the state of modern board gaming, it's really mind-boggling that games like these still get published.

  • @zackbob6
    @zackbob6 7 місяців тому +4

    "Which is likely gonna be 1 cause you're gonna quit before then"😂

  • @KodiakKing
    @KodiakKing 7 місяців тому +4

    I really enjoyed Zoo Tycoon once I figured out how to play. I have to give Tom credit for not liking the complexity and the rule book for sure. Granted I have only played solo, it definitely feels like a hardcore simulation.

  • @jeremycarter8844
    @jeremycarter8844 7 місяців тому +19

    Tom, I feel like this was among your better videos in this series. In some previous videos it feels like you’re punching down at games no one would give a second glance anyway. Remember the value of this type of video is saving people from wasting their money on dreck. More of these for borderline/tempting buyable games please.

  • @Poiuytrew.Q
    @Poiuytrew.Q 7 місяців тому +4

    I really like the clouds on the racing game board.

  • @JimmyWorld
    @JimmyWorld 7 місяців тому +2

    Oh man, always look forward to these.

  • @BoardGamesBricksHobbies
    @BoardGamesBricksHobbies 7 місяців тому +8

    Poor Lights Out Racing, it seems like it tried so hard to be a good game, but spun out on every turn it took.

    • @bgamer3316
      @bgamer3316 6 місяців тому +2

      I've played Lights Out Racing at a friends and enjoyed it. Looks like Tom's kinda mixed up on the rules, especially about the ERS stuff. He missed that there are more ways to save up energy than just sitting tight and not moving. Understanding the ERS can really pay off when you play it right. I plan to buy this game when it goes on sale.

    • @Designsy-wl9nr
      @Designsy-wl9nr 6 місяців тому

      Like Alpine this year lol

  • @bigfro77
    @bigfro77 7 місяців тому +3

    First off, your tie is awesome! Second..thanks for saving us all some money. Third, so you didn't like Lights off racing? hahahha!! that might have been the best negative review EVER!

  • @Designsy-wl9nr
    @Designsy-wl9nr 6 місяців тому

    On the start of a Formula 1 (F1) race lights start turning red. When the lights go out the race starts. Thus, Lights out.

  • @mikecowan495
    @mikecowan495 7 місяців тому +2

    100% agree on the Zoo Tycoon rulebook. Total mess, laundry list of actions with minimal tactical guidance, i.e. don't just say what you do each season, but give some indication regarding why you do it.
    The 1 rules video that exists isn't really any better. 60 minutes of a person basically reading the rulebook to you.

    • @SalterThe
      @SalterThe 7 місяців тому

      I had to watch three different videos (including the one from the creator of game) and real the rules to understand the game 😅
      And after that... its about 3-4 hours game 😂
      Overall it isnt bad euro game buuuuut... :D

  • @octopuppet4874
    @octopuppet4874 7 місяців тому +13

    The Christmas one got my attention with the theme but pushed me away with the AI art. I guess it's nice to hear I really didn't miss out on much.

    • @CalebWilesMagic
      @CalebWilesMagic 7 місяців тому +4

      There’s even an AI art typo on the side of the box where it’s printed “Aanother Christmas Romance Movie.”
      I would legitimately money that they also used AI to come up with some of the game mechanics.

    • @soogymoogi
      @soogymoogi 7 місяців тому +6

      To be fair, AI art and Hallmark holiday romance movies have the same vibe

  • @thecaryou
    @thecaryou 7 місяців тому +2

    I didn't think Zoo Tycoon rulebook was that bad, I could be wrong but maybe because it felt like the pc game. Lots of upkeep but seems better then a 5 not sure yet

  • @adwilliams1987
    @adwilliams1987 7 місяців тому +3

    I think the Christmas Romance Movie game is alright. 6/10 maybe. We never had any issues running out of dice, there isnt a set amount of dice per player so that isnt necessarily a big deal. The rulebook did need some revision for sure and I agree about the middle card but I just didnt find it game breaking. Somehow it always was taken and everyone was close in competition. I agree that it isnt a great mechanic, but the game rolled on in spite of that. Didn't feel long at all to me or my group.

    • @daniellebackus819
      @daniellebackus819 7 місяців тому +1

      I’m looking forward to playing the version where you choose cards to try to predict what happens in a Christmas romance movie you haven’t seen before.

  • @mikaeki5245
    @mikaeki5245 7 місяців тому +12

    I love Tom's negative reviews.

  • @metallsnubben
    @metallsnubben 7 місяців тому +1

    Graffiti could be such a good theme AND aesthetic (go full Jet Set Radio with it!) and the game looks like that and is about attaining permits???

  • @kaden5286
    @kaden5286 7 місяців тому +4

    Life as an accountant is hard man

    • @thedicetower
      @thedicetower  7 місяців тому +7

      I (Chris) was one before working here. No disagreements, accounting is a hard life. That's also why I almost never talk about it 😋

  • @alexstrang9823
    @alexstrang9823 7 місяців тому +1

    Damn. The Christmas Romance one is a great missed opportunity!

  • @spookytkid
    @spookytkid 7 місяців тому +2

    Well I get the theme elements in lights out but I do see Toms point. I think the dice roll at the beginning of the lap forcing you to take the long way or short was symbolizes being out of sink with the corners... almost like not being focused and out of the racing line... weird the 4 dice on the corners is the tyres getting full grip... so car balance through corners. ok I guess..

    • @bgamer3316
      @bgamer3316 6 місяців тому

      I've played Lights Out Racing at a friends and enjoyed it. Looks like Tom's kinda mixed up on the rules, especially about the ERS stuff. He missed that there are more ways to save up energy than just sitting tight and not moving. Understanding the ERS can really pay off when you play it right. I plan to buy this game when it goes on sale.

  • @TerrierHalo
    @TerrierHalo 7 місяців тому

    Wow, a real snipe at Chris there with only talking about his accounting job at dinner. ;)

  • @Rufiy0
    @Rufiy0 7 місяців тому +1

    But wait! there's more. I Rofl'd

  • @hugesinker
    @hugesinker 7 місяців тому +1

    The creators of Lights Out Racing actually paid to have the game overview taught in a professionally produced video episode of Game the Game with Becca Scott last year. Talk about polishing a turd. Definitely not cheap.

    • @bgamer3316
      @bgamer3316 6 місяців тому

      I've played Lights Out Racing at a friends and enjoyed it. Looks like Tom's kinda mixed up on the rules, especially about the ERS stuff. He missed that there are more ways to save up energy than just sitting tight and not moving. Understanding the ERS can really pay off when you play it right. I plan to buy this game when it goes on sale.

  • @zoopzoooom
    @zoopzoooom 6 місяців тому

    “You’ll put one of these tokens on it to make the game a little uglier.”
    -Tom Vasel

  • @nezukoshop
    @nezukoshop 7 місяців тому +1

    I knew Zoo Tycoon is not a great game by looking at it at Kickstarter campaign.

  • @joelhutton2120
    @joelhutton2120 2 місяці тому

    Some of the criticisms leveled at Light Out Racing are due to completely false interpretations of the rules. Yes, too much of the game play is based on dice/luck. But there is plenty of nuance and strategy from usage of ERS and DRS zone which are not accurately represented here in this video. Also, you roll for fast/slow before every lap - not just at the beginning of the game. You can also change from slow to fast if you roll dubs and catch another car. My wife and I play this game using two cars/scoreboards each several times per week and are always discovering new nuances of gameplay, including adding a few rules of our own since we field a “team” of cars.

  • @evanb6862
    @evanb6862 7 місяців тому

    I saw Lights Out Racing advertised on my FB feed. I'm glad you posted this, as it does sound terrible. As a F1 fan, I get what they were TRYING to do with ERS...but sounds like they totally flopped. It'd almost make sense if the ERS could only be used when you're on the green straights, then the Sorry aspect would even be somewhat thematic to F1. But the "Fast/Slow" is too odd, and the Yahtzee play in the turns is weird as well. Finally, the current broadcast of F1 races (which start when the red lights go off) all begin with the team saying "Lights out and away we go!".

    • @bgamer3316
      @bgamer3316 6 місяців тому

      I've played Lights Out Racing at a friends and enjoyed it. Looks like Tom's kinda mixed up on the rules, especially about the ERS stuff. He missed that there are more ways to save up energy than just sitting tight and not moving. Understanding the ERS can really pay off when you play it right. I plan to buy this game when it goes on sale.

  • @playerCAB
    @playerCAB 7 місяців тому

    I was interested in the Romance movie game but it was obvious without a reserve mechanic or more of the Romance cards out there that it was flawed.

  • @JefferyHunt
    @JefferyHunt 7 місяців тому

    Graffiti is the same designers as Fresco. I think they just streamlined the soul out of Fresco.

  • @MTDeFrance
    @MTDeFrance 7 місяців тому

    I have really enjoyed playing Zoo Tycoon. Honestly, aside from the theme, I don’t think it should be compared to Ark Nova. This game focuses on animal welfare, which is something I felt AN was sadly missing. Also, I didn’t find the rulebook hard to understand at all. Sure, it’s complex and requires a lot of upkeep, but I think most of it just comes naturally with the theme. This game is one of my favorites, second to only Ark Nova.
    P.S. I grew up playing the video game and this board game has recreated the memories of playing that game for me wonderfully.

    • @mrp4242
      @mrp4242 5 місяців тому

      Your feelings are similar to mine. Glad there are those that rebuttal Tom’s take (which I feel is somewhat ‘mailed in’).
      Zoo Tycoon is solid. I give it a 8.9/10, and Ark Nova a 9/10/ I think they are both great. Neither are ‘for everyone’; these are gamer games. But ZT definitely has its niche and fans. I think an expansion, as well as scenario booklet are coming and will improve replay-ability. The lack of scenarios (like the campaign in Hadrian’s wall) was one of the few things lacking at the outset. Designers are addressing that and the criticisms of the rulebook. I predict it will be a ‘hidden gem’ or ‘overlooked game’ on a few UA-camrs ‘Top-10’ videos in a couple years.
      Really, this game are rulebook are not that hard to understand, relative to the game’s weight. Like many heavy games, you are best off learning it from someone who knows how to play. I taught my 12 year old son in about 30 minutes, it took us about 1:15 to play 2P, and he had everything down.

  • @mohmednasarlunat-vb8md
    @mohmednasarlunat-vb8md 7 місяців тому

    Nice looking hat!
    Hobby Doctor Games UK

  • @davidriemaker
    @davidriemaker 7 місяців тому +2

    Should I get Lights Out Racing?

    • @bgamer3316
      @bgamer3316 6 місяців тому

      I've played Lights Out Racing at a friends and enjoyed it. Looks like Tom's kinda mixed up on the rules, especially about the ERS stuff. He missed that there are more ways to save up energy than just sitting tight and not moving. Understanding the ERS can really pay off when you play it right. I plan to buy this game when it goes on sale.

  • @TheOldMan-75
    @TheOldMan-75 7 місяців тому +1

    Does anybody know where that intro song is from. I’ve definitely seen a western featuring that song

    • @criscarpio5837
      @criscarpio5837 7 місяців тому

      ua-cam.com/video/yYf-kUmzvdc/v-deo.html

    • @LegoAssassin098
      @LegoAssassin098 7 місяців тому +1

      It's the Dice Tower theme composed in a western style. Totally proprietary for the dice tower.

    • @MichaelJones-yp8gj
      @MichaelJones-yp8gj 7 місяців тому +4

      the song you're thinking of is the theme to "The Magnificent Seven". The Dice Tower song isn't exactly the same, but it's definitely based on it.

    • @TheOldMan-75
      @TheOldMan-75 7 місяців тому

      @@MichaelJones-yp8gj That's not the one. There is one even closer to that. Might've been a Tom Selleck western.

  • @JonTripp115
    @JonTripp115 7 місяців тому

    Sheep Boom Bah loses a point for mangling one of the all-time Carnac The Magnificent jokes.

  • @DrMcFly28
    @DrMcFly28 7 місяців тому

    I want to know what those red slugs on Tom's tie are supposed to be

  • @glenfairen2996
    @glenfairen2996 7 місяців тому +1

    But wait…there’s more…can’t seem Tom’s face when he says that but I know EXACTLY what his expression is. :)

  • @edwindrood2816
    @edwindrood2816 7 місяців тому +1

    Always fun

  • @JonReid01
    @JonReid01 7 місяців тому

    20:45 clip it 😂

    • @Hemux0
      @Hemux0 7 місяців тому

      I got you ua-cam.com/users/clipUgkxs09aGq0KwxLwe5AcHvzJhy5rpFOJsLTo?si=-Z3k-eHywK3Hq0U0

  • @pluvia33
    @pluvia33 6 місяців тому

    I'd hate to assume bad intent, but the creators of Another Christmas Romance Movie saying 6-players is done in teams (when it never said that in the rules) sounds like an excuse to not have to send more dice to all of their backers.

  • @Tokioka
    @Tokioka 7 місяців тому +1

    For a game called Graffiti that board just looks so dull and uninspired.

  • @RennegadeCrayz
    @RennegadeCrayz 7 місяців тому +1

    I would love to see you review forestation. It is hands down the worst mess of game I have ever played in my life. It has good ideas that do nothing and go nowhere

  • @andreasoranno
    @andreasoranno 7 місяців тому

    How is it going with ATO? Missing updates on the Titans.

  • @bart402
    @bart402 7 місяців тому +2

    Zoo Tycoon is not an easy game to master, but I think it is a beautiful and really good heavy strategy game.

  • @Poiuytrew.Q
    @Poiuytrew.Q 7 місяців тому +2

    I don’t understand why you would need a permit to do graffiti. I don’t get it.

    • @BoardGamesBricksHobbies
      @BoardGamesBricksHobbies 7 місяців тому +4

      I'm sure it's just the publisher's way of using graffiti as a theme while not endorsing illegal actions.

    • @user-tc8yj7zd7k
      @user-tc8yj7zd7k 7 місяців тому +6

      In the UK you can get a permit to graffiti certain areas. You need to show you're actually good and not just putting on stupid looking tags. You submit a design for a particular side of a building or a concrete pillar or whatever and you can get a permit from the council to paint on that design if they like it.

  • @GlorifiedGutsyGaming
    @GlorifiedGutsyGaming 7 місяців тому

    Ald Duel straight up stole the Tampa Bay Lightning’s logo there. Blue lightning bolt in a circle.

  • @GrayBeardDamonsen
    @GrayBeardDamonsen 7 місяців тому

    Guessing Tom got complaints about not really going through the games he didn't like from past videos.

    • @thedicetower
      @thedicetower  7 місяців тому +1

      No, I was always planning to do this. My "41 games in x minutes" reviews are extra.

  • @TheBrokenMeeple
    @TheBrokenMeeple 7 місяців тому +2

    Ha ha, i couldnt wait to hear your words on Zoo Tycoon, we share the same rating and the flaw impressions from my review. It was a slog to get through and a huge disappointment. Not even a candle to Ark Nova. That rulebook, utter garbage. And yet some people came out of the woodwork to say they love the game and it was amazing..........HOW?! though 5/10 means an average game as opposed to bad.

  • @dblevins343
    @dblevins343 7 місяців тому +1

    The racing one just hurts me a little bit. They chose such a great track for it. They clearly based it off of F1. But man does it look boring.
    Now if only Heat would release some more track maps.

    • @forisrex
      @forisrex 7 місяців тому

      board game bliss lists it as q1 2024 for its eta, so hopefully soon

    • @bgamer3316
      @bgamer3316 6 місяців тому +2

      I've played Lights Out Racing at a friends and enjoyed it. Looks like Tom's kinda mixed up on the rules, especially about the ERS stuff. He missed that there are more ways to save up energy than just sitting tight and not moving. Understanding the ERS can really pay off when you play it right. I plan to buy this game when it goes on sale.

  • @12345678abracadabra
    @12345678abracadabra 7 місяців тому +2

    Another Christmas Romance Movie - the KIckstarter makes no mention of a real artist, so it must be AI art and it looks it. Cheap and unethical. Now that I watched the rest of the video, so many of these no-name Kickstarters are 100% AI art, like Lights Out Racing.

  • @nirszi
    @nirszi 7 місяців тому

    Another Christmas Romance Movie mixes a terrible theme with a terrible game. Add those cringe-worthy cards... oh my. Edit: If the cards were supposed to be satirical, I retract my cringe comment.

  • @towerguardgames
    @towerguardgames 7 місяців тому

    This just seems like a UA-cam series about being unkind purely for clicks? Is this the Dice Tower brand?

  • @joshjenson8111
    @joshjenson8111 7 місяців тому +4

    Tom's ratings make no sense, he gave the 1st game a 6 because its good with kids? Yet he said nothing good about the entire game except the components
    How is it a 6?
    Then he gives the other games 5 or 6 despite saying nothing good about it
    TERRIBLE TERRIBLE REVIEW, your rating scale on games makes no sense
    If i don't like a game its definitely not going to be a 5 or 6

    • @Deaddinoproductions
      @Deaddinoproductions 7 місяців тому +2

      Might be helpful context that he’s a teacher, and if you equate these ratings to a conventional school grading scales, they’re all Ds and Fs. Everyone uses numbered rating scales differently and I agree that Tom tends to rate things on the high end. You just gotta be aware of how a particular reviewer uses those numbers. No point in getting bent out of shape over it.

    • @DanGrossDrums
      @DanGrossDrums 7 місяців тому +2

      He gave the first game a 6 based on kids liking it but he said otherwise it would be a 4. I believe they pretty much follow the BGG suggested numbering system which basically means, even though he didn't like them, the only game he would never play again is the last one. The threshold for seal of approval is 7, which again according to BGG guidelines (and I believe I've heard Tom echo it) is that it's a game he'd be willing to play if someone suggested. Everything below 7 is pretty much varying degrees of "don't like" with 1-2 reserved for bad enough that he'd never play again. Basically, based on that review system, and Tom looking for something redeeming about a game, there will simply be a lot of 5's and 6's...

  • @user-hk5fo1nm9h
    @user-hk5fo1nm9h 7 місяців тому

    Tom’s comments on street art come off really… off. Like it’s out of the suburbs in 1985. He said this about another game recently. Tagging, street art, graffiti, it’s not a bad thing, it’s weird that he’s so offput about it.