UK Providing Ukrainian Troops with Chinese Type 56 AKs
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- Опубліковано 3 вер 2022
- The UK has recently procured some 2,400 7.62x39mm AK-pattern rifles to aid training of Ukrainian troops in the UK. In the latest images released by the UK Ministry of Defence we can now confirm that these rifles include previously unseen Chinese Type 56-1s.
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Wouldn't even be surprised if China was knowingly selling these via 3rd party. For China, business is business.
Aka Pakistan
Money is goooood😂
They have more ethics than the yanks, who left all their weapons for the taliban to take after their 20 year failed war.
@@ChandranPrema123 more like India, still signing deals with Russia and backstabbing Ukraine
China selling weapons to both sides to always come out on top
Do not forget Albania, Heavily reliant on the PRC during the Hoxha years. Multiple thousands of Type 56s' purchased to arm the army and militia. Most of these were stored and as Albania is in NATO it would be a useful source of AK47 type weapons
Albania also has tons of 7.62 ammo. The young men known as “war dogs” attempted to sell 100 million rounds of this ammo as part of the “Afghan Deal” in 07’ to the U.S government for $30 million which was all Chinese; but repackaged to be passed off as Russian. Unfortunately they forgot to pay the guys that did this for them and got ratted out (oops).
Albania also made its own AKs called the ASH 78.
20,000 AK-s were donated only to Afghanistan, thousands more to anti-ISIS coalition and other Middle East anti-regime rebel paramilitaries, some went to Africa. Albania however has destroyed a lot more itself, hundreds of thousands of tons of weapons and munitions were destroyed since 1990, tons more were looted during the 1997 crisis, and a lot were sent to Kosovo which at the end of the war all those weapons were seized by NATO and later destroyed. Albania simply lacked even space to securely store all that amount of arsenal. Albanian MoD has officially and publicly accepted that it has sent munitions to Ukraine, it's not known the amount or what types, but no mention of weapons were made. Who knows.
@@kobold7763 I remember that...
Don't they have any upgraded Type 59 tanks in service?
Not too surprised, really. With relatively few exceptions an AK is an AK is an AK, and the Type 56 is among the more common patterns globally. Plenty of unobjectionable places to source them from, even if they weren't pulled from seized stocks.
Sort of true but the 7.62x39 Chinese, Russian and Yugoslavian Aks differ in some key areas and are not always parts compatible.
Their basic function is the same though
@@Gabthar If they break, you throw it away and get another as the world is awash with so many AKs the UN class them as a pollutant that effects human health and life expectantcy. Repairing them is really only a thing on the US civilian market for AK variants. Parts commonality is not a concern for the MOD.
Yugo AKs are easier to add mounts to, I suspect this is part of the reason for so many of them appearing, and most AK fans rate them most highly.
An AK is not an AK tho
The question is, when will this trainee return to ukrain to join the war?
Yep ex Finnish Chinese AKs. the Finns bought tens of thousands of them a decade ago for their militia. Not surprised such rifles are not only for training but also being deployed in Ukraine. still OK.
I've heard Finland sold off Sten Guns, Carcanos, Berdans, etc.. on the US surplus market and used the money to buy Type56 AKs
Not tens of thousands, but 100 000 for 2nd line troops.
I thought the Finns bought all of the former East German 5.45 AKs?
@@ZSC001 the finns may have given them to the Ukrs including their Chinese AKs.
Plenty of left handed work there with the AK's and one madlad running the L85 left handed as well. Wish them all the best, really do.
Finland probably sent some too. We made our own enhanced version of the AK but these served before and alongside them until there was an RK62 for everyone. Tankers still have them, with the folding stock. They're all still greased up in some vaults waiting for the storm.
love the type 56 SKS and AK I've had the imported version of both to the United States wish I had them now
The US did this in their intialt packages. These packages included lota of soviet or chinease small arms and equipment along with medical supplies. A large portion of these soviet and chonese arms have been collected from caught arms smugglers.
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Ammo supply for the troops in ukraine looks to be quite a challenge. They use so many different calibers... Just for the small arms alone. 556, 545, 762 nato, 762*39, 338, etc
Yes, it's a real myriad! Must be a logistical challenge. Some units are seen with multiple rifle calibres AKs and Western let alone MGs or precision kit.
Some type 56 rifles and ammunition came from Albania 🇦🇱 which is a great supporter of Ukraine.
Any sources on that? Would like to do a video on Type 56 use in Ukraine
Is Arsenal in Bulgaria no longer making AK-74 variants that can be used to train them with, or was this just a cost-effectiveness measure by the Brits?
Apparently those go quite directly from Bulgaria to Ukraine.
@@marcusott2973 : That would make sense in its own way.
@@samy7013 MoD surely is going through it back catalogue of AK's seized somewhere Iraq, AFG, old Irish stock (remember that cache off Chinese AK's, RPG's from Libya seized of the Irish coast in the 90's), Yemeni stuff seized on the high sea....etc.
Also it's the MoD they're definitely penny pinching, if money was no issue they'd all be rocking brand new Finish, Serbian or Swiss 😉 AK variations, with Mlock all over.
I'd say that it wasn't a cost thing, but rather a "WE NEED RIFLES NOW" thing. Speed.
Remember, that things don't magically appear out of thin air in factories, no matter how much money you throw at it. It takes time to fulfil an order for something.
@@garethfairclough8715 especially if buying, even as a national entity you still have to go through the whole end user certificate process. Which takes weeks.
The Chinese 56-1 rifles pictured in your video closely resemble the same pattern rifles taken during a US Navy maritime interdiction from 2021. In that incident 2500 Type 56-1 rifles with folding stocks were confiscated from a Dhow operating near the coast of Somalia. These guns were part of an illicit cargo meant for distribution from Iran to Houthi forces in Yemen. There was a second interdiction in December 2021 where over 1000 Type 56-1 rifles were confiscated. The configuration of the rifles taken in both interdictions are identical. A report from Oryx published in March 2022 also shows the same pattern rifles discovered in Ukraine.
Yep that's one theory of their origins. We've not seen them in Ukraine since the spring, one International Legion member ran one for a while but even he's swapped for something else now. Thanks for watching
They are probably ex-Finnish (Finland purchased a number of Type 56s) and possibly some captured in theatre operations.
The east German aka are gems
And the serb aks.i love those steel bolts they run smoother stronger and hold lubrication much longer
Anyone who has been to the Iraqi theater remembers very well the countless Chinese-made AK 47s supplied to that army, defective due to problems with the ferrous materials with which they were built. To persevere, to repeat the same mistake, is abominable.
There is a movie about USA weapon seller.That man also buy shells from East European old USSR country.And yes,also Chinese Shells
A stamped AK is a stamped AK. Getting them weapons that can use the calibres they have matters.
I would trade 3 of my Bulgarian Aks if they gave me one of those East German ones 🥺
The British Government have been buying 5.56mm AKs from Bulgaria for training Ukrainian troops. It's likely the Type 56s came from Albania.
Indeed, I did a video on the Arsenal guns. Thanks for watching.
There’s also the possibility of them coming from seized Iranian weapons shipments.
@@baneofbanes Yes - that would actually be a very quick and cheap way to get them.
To be trained by the British is just fantastic. They are the best, and good fun to hang with too.
Their accent makes people puke though
i do not know where they got those but at least Finland has about 100.000 Chinese ones in storage for 'future needs'
Getting the best possible chance of survival turning up to a british army training camp. Not many go threw basic with a war at finish of training. Fair play to these young lads.
Keep the head down grind threw the pain and youll maybe save your own life one day
Nice UK!!
Amusingly, saw the pictures of the rusty and damaged Russian AKs being issued to Putin's conscripts yesterday!!!! Oh boy! What a comparison to these immaculate British AKs! 😆
Some of those are yugo/ serb aks as well,
Yes, covered those in previous video!
AK blank firing adapters are 99 cents a piece. That price leads me to believe there are probably hundreds of thousands of not millions available.
1:12 This is not Chinese Norinco Type56 but Yugo Zastava M70
I know, it's a reference back to my earlier video about M70s and other AKs in use.
Now we know where the intercepted houthi shipments are going.
I bet they couldn’t wait to get back to Ukraine after being in Lydd!
Hahaha
The Type 56 AK has an attached spike bayonet much like the Type 56 SKS.
The fixed stock version does. The underfolding stock Type 56-1 typically doesn't.
@@TheArmourersBench Yep. I have a friend with the 5.56mm paratrooper version and it doesn't have a bayonet
Some Type 56s do, a lot don't.
@@sheriff0017 The guns with folding stocks did not have the spike bayonet because they were trying to reduce weight.
There's quite a few on the civilian market they'd be able to get in a pinch, although they'd be limited to straight pull due to our gun laws.
And would limit their usefulness as training aids.
Looks to large numbers captured from iraq and Syria over the last 20 years, I think I may have a idea were they got them.
Fighting in Built Up Areas....FIBUA......Fighting In Someones House. ...FISH...........FIBD.....Fighting in Bars and Discos....
The Kalashnikov is the greatest battle implement ever devised.
Fitting the old Soviet tech and its carbon copies bite the man who would revivce that vast gray empire. S.I.!
Things like this are why I was confused that the UK destroyed weapons it captured in Iraq and Afghanistan. Take them. Store them. Never know...
I think the issue with equipment in Afghanistan / Iraq is the cost and logistics of transporting it back to the UK. Unfortunately a lot of expensive equipment was destroyed instead of brought back unfortunately.
Theres probably a number of rusting British wrecks joining the Soviet tanks in the sands of Afghanistan.
Russia: China is our forever BF
Also Russia: Why are Chinese AKs shooting at us?!?
Heh , nope. While Americans claim that Stingers were effective in Afgan. The most numerous mujahadeen MANPADS was Chinese clones of Strela-2
China: I play on both sides so I can always come out on top
More likely these came from nation that bought the rifles from China decades ago (cough Albania) and who is now in NATO and have them as aid to the British to train Ukrainians.
They can just own russia at this point.
The ak is the most simple weapon system and you can beat the shit out of it and it still shoots
The first time I fired a submachine gun, I was a cop. Before I was army. And there is a reason one eventially fires a submachine gun as army.
Ive owned a couple of 56s. Can't say I liked them
What was wrong with them.
@@humansvd3269 probably an AR guy he is, for Chinese AKs are remarkably good, reliable and surprisingly, more accurate than the Russian ones
Its as if a certain UK ally had some 100K Type-56:s lying around. Coincidence?
Interesting
Looking at you Finland.
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They bought Type 56-2s I believe.
We got 100000 aks from DDR and bought another 100000 from China so plenty to send to UK and Ukraine.
Where is the folding bayonet on them?
At last as a Hungarian I can feel proud. 😀
It makes sense using the older Kalashnikovs. Operationally there are minute differences in functionality between AK-47/AKM/AKS rifles and AK-74s. The manual of arms is essentially the same. The big advantages of the British training of the Ukrainians include their learning Western Military skills, being proficient on a secondary rifle platform aka the British L-85 series Bullpub, and likely development of a Western style Professional Non-Commissioned Officers' Corps.
The L85 is ergonomically very similar to Ukraines official rifle, a bullpup that they give to SFs and few other units, I always forget the bloody name of it.
This isn’t going to make a difference.
@@user-zj1uf8hs6t a lot more difference than trolling youtube with irrelevant comments...
I can just imagine the poor Welsh guards having to test fire all those weapons in 17 days but if they say they're good I'd trust them they know there shit and if they wouldn't use it themselves they'd bin it but type 56 is a durable and reliable rifle
Don't the ukrainian special forces use some type of bullpup ak that they made forgot the name but have seen photos online about it.
Yeah the Malyuk a rearranged AK-74, the Russians and the East Germans tried the same in the 70's and 80's.
@@marcusott2973 That's the name i new it started with M but could not think of it lol, thanls! I bet the trigger would be awful cause on how bullpup rifles have crappy triggers.
@@kylehurd6956 well AK's don't have a great trigger to start with, operating the firing mechanism via rods isn't going to improve it.
I carried a Steyr AUG in service the staged trigger is 🤫💩, I'm sure with untrained troops and panic situations it would lead to lots of involuntary mag dumps.
@@marcusott2973 Oh wow must been an experince carrying the steyr aug. I did see that that their bullpup used ak mags which was intresting.
Yes, here's my video on it ua-cam.com/video/SYv26KuuwvQ/v-deo.html
After Ukraine wins the war, their weapons museums are going to be an absolutely HOT destination for us to visit.
No chance Ukraine wins,and no use pretending they can. They lost overv3,000 men and 100 tanks,5 planes,dozens of armoured vehicles etc IN FIVE DAYS
@@antipropo461 well aren’t you an embarrassment.
And the Russians have still not provided any proof for their claims.
China is very happy to clear up it's Type 56 stock, so these can be replaced with the new Type 191 Assault Rifles, also the Ukrainian are purchasing drones from China and the Island of Taiwan as well. Business is business
@Watcher Republic of China.
@Watcher Republic of China.
@@Dimetropteryx ROC desire more land than PRC,they even say Outer Mongolia is a part of China
These rifles likely didn’t come from China.
@Watcher no it’s just Taiwan. If anything the PRC belongs to the ROC.
I'm from the UK. I know what you just did. XXX
When China dumped the Type 56 as its main battle rifle quality control at the factories for foreign export is non-existent.
Reported that two units of Rosgvardiya held up Ukrainian Army for 24hrs. What were they armed with?
Where's that report Colin? Depends on the tier of Rosgvardia unit to be honest. Some have rather good kit, some don't.
So are any of these guys involved in the Kharkiv offensive
Quite possibly, the first 4,000 were confirmed trained a week or so ago so many of them could be.
Albania and Finland?
Those were the akm type 56 confiscated by UK and US navy from numerous ship heading to Yemen for them houthi rebels
I think it was like 5-6,000 ak 47 type 56
And rpg7 and other weapon etcs
Mhmm, quite likely, I mention that in the video.
Sus but when have the UK ever not been sus
I think that they are from the Albanian army
They need to come up with a 3 to 4 times zoom rifle scope for the AKs. This will really help out scoring some kills on the frontline. They better get a production line going ASAP.
Greetings,
Jeff
China has produced about 15 million of these. Excellent quality, very durable. This should be the most produced weapon in the world.
Captured from Iraqis surplus!
Type 56. 875 RPM. Nice.
Feel the M43 ball. Order some Tungsten Ball from China through Canada. 😁
If not from china itself I’m sure their from Albania
This could wreak havoc with Russo Chinese relationship.
Eh most likely these rifles came from Albania or from a captured Iranian shipment.
I wonder how things are going for them in Ukraine
They are getting torn to bits 3200 lost in the last week.
As long as they go bang and are similar to what they use, or will encounter on the battlefield it's all good. The Chinese ones are pretty good especially the Norincos or Polytechs. 🎩♠️🎱🎯🇺🇲🏁🇺🇦🌻🔱💮🌼🌸👊🔫
Here I was all morning going to read a UA-cam comment with 14 emojis, and before I knew it, you came along and fulfilled my wish. I should’ve wished for a winning lottery ticket instead! 🤣😂😁
@@samy7013 thanks see if you figure out the meaning of it.
@@ratagris21 explain it please
@@Google_Does_Evil_Now as long as they work, and can use anything found on the battlefield. So endth the lesson.
@@ratagris21 I meant please explain the emoticons 🙂
This makes sense. According to a volunteer foreign soldier at the very beginning of the war they were handing out malfunctioning AKs. The specific incident called out was a gun that would only fire 2 rounds before not cycling.
These are former weapons of Saddam Huessein Iraqi army, defeated and captured by British army in 1991 Gulf War. Britain took those usable weapons kept in store for 30 years.
I've never seen anything to support that idea. Thanks for watching.
Putin need to loose the war in humiliation. Adolf Hitler was defeated in humiliation and Germany has been humble since. Slava Ukraini 🇸🇪❤️🇺🇦.
Cope harder not going to happen
@@user-zj1uf8hs6t Russia is being dismantled, in so many ways. In the end we will see Putin and his inner circle of thugs sliding along the road, clutching the steering wheel, all the rest of the Russian juggernaut littering the road behind them.
@@user-zj1uf8hs6t say that again buddy.
4 months of Russian advances gone in 6 days. Not even a fucking week.
Ahahaha keep dreaming ans don’t forget to cut the heater this winter
@@baneofbanes Ok NWO Cock Polisher
They may not be as good as Russian, but Chinese firearms work very well in my experience
They will be just as good as Russian made ones. China got the complete data package for AK47s and machine tools even if not for the AKM, China are far better at mass production than Russia.
The Type 56 is the most produced AK variant in the world, far surpassing the Soviet/Russian AKs. I think the Chinese had the kinks sorted out after the first 10 million.
@@eddietat95 Ive fired multiple type 56s and the reason I'd say the Russians are bit better are because of the cold hammer forged barrel of the ak 103. Groups are tighter in my experience on the Russian rifle
They're better than Russian made. China has been a civilization for 5000 years. But Russia is a nation of uncivilized mongrels who happened to stumble across industrialization. Basically chimps with AKs.
Some say Chinese type 56 AK,S not so good. anythin that goes bang and sprays bullets are better than rocks. ask a Vietnam vet.
Fresh meat!I wish to Britain to be frozen!
How’s Kharkiv going for you? Oh wait, that’s right the Russians got pushed entirely out.
bludged another one of victor boots stashes i see
Thoe are all either Yugoslavian or East German.
No l, there’s multiple Chinese AKs in the video as well.
The Chinese Type 56 is copy of Russian AK, they used the same AK bullet , which Ukraine has plenty of from their western supplier
Indeed it is.
No NATO country can buy sell or trade Russian or Chinese made weapons. This are made from a NATO country most likely the only one that have massive stocks of AK 47 and 65 is Albania and they have provided a lot so far
There’s other ways to acquire Chinese AKs than buying them direct.
❤️Ukraine!
NIHAOWDY!🇺🇸
Cheap ass UK Politicians....Type 56 export model is the WORST Ak copy.....not durable at all...M16 can do a better job with less ammunition/weight per soldier...
Huh
Would be fun to hear if the Ukranians prefer the AK over the L85. But i suspect they wouldn't be honest about it as to not piss off their generous benefactors... or because its difficult to choose between a chinese clone of a copy of a ripoff, and one of the worst military rifles in service.
It really isn't that bad. You can with practice take an sa80 out to 600 meters and out to 300 easily. Id be suprised if you could do that with a Chinese ak.
L86 has an optic.
So the UK bought AKs from China. Countries talk hard but buying weapons is business not personal, America probably buy & sell weapons with China as well
No. Earlier in the war during one if the US small arms and equipment packages the US sent like 10,000 Chinese AKMs and AKs ammo. All of which it had taken from caught arms smugglers and stored in case of a situation like the Ukraine war. The US has spent the last decade being the world police man of shipping lanes and the high seas.
You mean UK taxpayers pay out to help keep the tories in power
Well until apathetic voters feel they have a better choice they'll stay in power. 🤷♂️
@@TheArmourersBench Absolutely. Which will never happen under the current system.
Not type56, It's Zastava M70 of Yugoslavia (former), UK buy from surplus military store of former Yugoslavia's countries (Croatia, Slovenia, Motenegro, Bosnia & Hezergovina...).
Western military providers can be buying Type56 and many Chinese firearms from black market, but no more.
Nope, those are Type 56-1s. I mention thr M70s in the video and have covered them in some detail in an earlier video.
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Че фашистов поддерживаешь?Уят!Они в могилы казахов плюют!Позорник!
@@Dainka2002 *Токаев заявил, что Казахстан не признает «квазигосударства» ДНР и ЛНР*
🤮🤮🤮
While many British citizens can't even afford their food and fuel bills 🙄
Maybe Europeans shouldn’t have been so reliant on Russian energy.
@@baneofbanes Russian energy is European energy, it's also cheap & clean.
So, perhaps it is perfectly OK, (or certainly should be), for Europeans to buy Russian gas.
Chinese aks aren't great from what I know. Still wouldn't want to be on the other side of it.
It's the same ak that beat the Americans in the Vietnam war lol
Underfolders are terrible rifes.
Better than no rifle.
see!? it’s all bout money beibeh xi jin ping thriving
I doubt that the British got these from China.
Ukraine cannot defeat Russia
Of course Ukraine can. There is nothing to indicate Russia's defeat isn't possible.
The Ukrainians just blitzed through Kharkiv and liberated Izium. The Russians aren’t invincible and the Ukrainians are not weak.
they train others to fight a war for them, a war that they know they could not afford to win...such a surrealism
One they also had a hand in starting!!!!!!!!!
You people are insane. Whatever, cope while the Ukrainians keep on paying Russia back.
@@baneofbanes they lost thousands of their pleb in the trenches for the 'free world fascist big capital' proxy war, how they are paying back?....and Ukrainian people are very fortunate that evil Putin doesn't follow NATO's tactics to throw on them tones of bombs , as NATO did in Yugoslavia
Training new recruits to use rifles for what is obviously a predominantly artillery war dooms these men to a quick death.
There’s plenty of infantry fighting going on. And a soldier always needs to know how to shoot!
Why??? Didn’t we give them hundreds of billions at this point or did they launder ALL of it already???
Why what? These are rifles bought and retained in the UK for training purposes.
Projection