It is good to see that they will find a new use in Mexico granted even though the UK train operating companies may not want them to bear in mind they are technically speaking still sound structure wise and mechanical speaking still perfectly serviceable locomotives and even the MK3 stock is serviceable frankly speaking too good to consign to scrap 😊
@@johnrees And who made the TOCs have the Class 800s. THE GOVERMENT. Already experiencing the goverment interfering on Southern & Southeastern railways here.
@stephenchecksfield632 I'm also glad they're not just being abandoned, or scrapped, and that they will continue working. I'm just sad they'll be working on the other side of the world! Thanks for commenting!
From what I’ve heard Mexico bought 7 train sets one set is already being tested in Mexico with a different paint job which looks pretty good I guess these are part of that deal which we’re supposed to be sent at different dates and not all at once great video cheers
@pipandkitty2004 Unfortunately a prime example of "newer is better" according to higher ups, yet the rest of the population knows that the older gems are the best! Thanks for commenting!
@@MerlinHuffy We traveled from Penzance to Exeter St Davids just after Easter I was living in Devon when they first came in At least then they had a trolley We'd taken the Sleeper down to Penzance after traveling on the Cally Sleeper to Fort William the previous summer Both are an experience but the Deerstalker and breakfast over Rannoch Moor is just amazing
A fantastic question, and one I hope we'll find out the answer to. I guess it will take a little while for them to set up the trains over there, and train the drivers on how to use them etc! Thanks for commenting!
Excelente noticia ojalá se consigan más trenes como este para el transporte en México se estan haciendo esfuerzos para revivir los trenes de pasajeros abandonados por décadas a propósito por nuestros gobernantes
They are amazing trains, sad to see them go, but glad they're still going to be in service and running over there in Mexico. I hope you get to see them up close!
@kevinoswaldofxe3817 Thank you for commenting! I have every faith that they will be working hard over there! Unfortunately I don't have exact figures, but I'm sure more are heading your way!
All I can do is echo the other comments on here. It breaks my heart to see these lovely trains being flogged off while we put up with the ironing board seated rubbish replacements.
It's not "amazing" at all. They have lower safety standards and we have faster, safer, more reliable and cost effective alternatives. It isn't disgusting at all, you clown.
Sad to see but at least they are having another chance at life. I was told today that 11 powercars are going by boat to Nigeria. Make of that what you will. Nicely filmed too.
I wonder why they haven't tried them on the Waterloo - Exeter St David's route with consideration of replacing the class159's. They did clearance tests on the Class 43's in the early 1990's with this is mind but went with the 159's. They could run them as 2+6 units, however there would be problems on the Salisbury - Waterloo trains in the mornings and evenings, when they run 9 car trains.
Running them on the Waterloo-Exeter St. David route would be better for all us HST lovers, than shipping them off. At least we'd get to carry on seeing them at work! Thanks for commenting!
answered you own question there... "however there would be problems on the Salisbury - Waterloo trains in the mornings and evenings, when they run 9 car trains"
There are 114 HTS CLASS 43 .. 5 exported to Mexico ( btw max speed for them there is just 60mph ) … 40 HST are stored at the moment 16 have been preserved and 24 scrapped
Well the first ship that took the first badge of 125s to Mexico was the BBC Arkhangelsk but that ship is currently in Chile South America so I doubt that ship will be the same one to deliver the rest of the trains
@@roysimmons3549 1435mm is not standard worldwide. Many countries use many different gauges. Russia uses 1520mm, Finland usually uses 1524mm and India has a national network of 1676mm.
Sad times for British engineering good times for Mexico, thank you very much department of transport, what’s the saying if it’s not broke don’t try fix it 🤷♂️
They should utilise these brilliant sets into four or five car trains for beautifully scenic routes such as the Heart of Wales Line and the Cambrian Coast Line in Wales plus other jewels in the UK railways crown just as they have done in Scotland! X
@@gxhall It's a lovely idea, but I think you're right that they wouldn't fit all platforms. I know they also don't fit all platforms from where I am in East Anglia. Thanks for commenting, I hope you enjoyed the video and thanks for subscribing!
@@gxhall Too many around my area! Restricts on what you can see without it being a blur as it uses the station as a pass rather than a stop! And even now, I believe it's Halesworth Station that still doesn't fit the everyday Greater Anglia trains too!
Unless they've been or are going to be modified they will surely struggle in the Mexican hotter climate. The XPT power cars were modified from day one to have double the engine cooling than the Class 43 they are based on to suit the Australian heat.
@@Martindyna There's a Wikipedia entry here with some basic information: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ferrocarril_Trans%C3%ADstmico#Redevelopment Here's a video from a recent ride by the Mexican president. The non-stop end to end journey took in the region of 6-7 hours. ua-cam.com/video/pEJyqP4V-wY/v-deo.html
@@karlosbricks2413 yes true I agree I think that the MTU power unit fitted to them will be downrated and they will be regeared for lower speed operating and obviously too less trailer cars in the consist
I think it’s great Mexico has them, they will rot here get graffiti on them, weeds cover them, then rust then booths scrapyard after being cut up as they will have a massive price tag on them all the way to scrap so I can’t buy one
I have heard from a friend who was in Mexico recently, that these will be used to go between archeological sites in the Mayan ruins. If that's the case, at least they will have a decent purpose. Maybe we should all chip in and share-buy one?! Thanks for commenting!
Lovely video.
I've worked on all those, back in FGW days at Old Oak Common.
Thank you, Its rare to see them in Norfolk/Suffolk let alone there last trip before export.
It is good to see that they will find a new use in Mexico granted even though the UK train operating companies may not want them to bear in mind they are technically speaking still sound structure wise and mechanical speaking still perfectly serviceable locomotives and even the MK3 stock is serviceable frankly speaking too good to consign to scrap 😊
And what have we got left now on the railways in the UK ..... fucking crap ...... time to re nationalize the railways before we have fuck all left.
@@johnrees And who made the TOCs have the Class 800s. THE GOVERMENT. Already experiencing the goverment interfering on Southern & Southeastern railways here.
@stephenchecksfield632 I'm also glad they're not just being abandoned, or scrapped, and that they will continue working. I'm just sad they'll be working on the other side of the world!
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@johnrees Unfortunately a prime example of "newer is not always better"!
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@ritchiescott4684 There's things the government shouldn't interfere with. Deciding which is a better train is one of them!
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From what I’ve heard Mexico bought 7 train sets one set is already being tested in Mexico with a different paint job which looks pretty good I guess these are part of that deal which we’re supposed to be sent at different dates and not all at once great video cheers
Certainly seems to be a staggered date giveaway for sure!
Thanks for commenting and I'm glad you liked the video!
This is such a cool place to film them! 👍
It was, worth the early start to catch them.
I'm glad 43.004 is still in service
Mexico will now have a better train with better comfort than here in the uk
Who remembers the 'Loco Toledo's advert (for Southern!)?
"The train hardly ever come!"
Until they crashed into a SD-70M
A "BriXican" train.😄
@pipandkitty2004 Unfortunately a prime example of "newer is better" according to higher ups, yet the rest of the population knows that the older gems are the best!
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@riklund691 It doesn't sound familiar, but after your comment I'm going to see if I can find it on UA-cam!
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super footage!💖💖👏👏
Thank you so much, was fun getting it.
Great shots! I’ve subscribed 🙂
Glad you liked them, thank you for the sub.
I was on Powderham Castle in April this year - they are probably the best trains produced by BR
Oh wow - how was the journey? I bet it was great!
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@@MerlinHuffy We traveled from Penzance to Exeter St Davids just after Easter
I was living in Devon when they first came in
At least then they had a trolley
We'd taken the Sleeper down to Penzance after traveling on the Cally Sleeper to Fort William the previous summer
Both are an experience but the Deerstalker and breakfast over Rannoch Moor is just amazing
@@gxhall That sounds like an amazing trip. I'm so glad (and jealous!) that you got to travel on the Powderham Castle!
I thought I saw them parked up at Eastern rail services, I only caught a glimpse of one as I was on the road, I hope some will remain in the UK.
There were a few at Eastern rail services this week, think they have started moving them out by road to the docks.
Sad end to a fantastic machine 😫 Nice catch though buddy 👍🏻
@TheDaf95xf Agree with you on the sad end!
Thanks for commenting, and I'm glad you liked the video!
hi. iwonder will MTU supply the engine parts out there and who is going to show them how to operate them ?
A fantastic question, and one I hope we'll find out the answer to. I guess it will take a little while for them to set up the trains over there, and train the drivers on how to use them etc!
Thanks for commenting!
Excelente noticia ojalá se consigan más trenes como este para el transporte en México se estan haciendo esfuerzos para revivir los trenes de pasajeros abandonados por décadas a propósito por nuestros gobernantes
They are amazing trains, sad to see them go, but glad they're still going to be in service and running over there in Mexico. I hope you get to see them up close!
Tranquilos aquí en México les vamos a dar un buen uso a estos hermosos hst y por cierto tienes el dato cuántos trenes van a mandar ?
@kevinoswaldofxe3817
Thank you for commenting! I have every faith that they will be working hard over there!
Unfortunately I don't have exact figures, but I'm sure more are heading your way!
All I can do is echo the other comments on here. It breaks my heart to see these lovely trains being flogged off while we put up with the ironing board seated rubbish replacements.
Absolutely! It seems we're all of the same thought, that we should keep these on our tracks!
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Where in Mexico will they be running?
its amazing how other countries can still make use of them but they no longer want to run them in the UK! utterly disgusting!
It's not "amazing" at all. They have lower safety standards and we have faster, safer, more reliable and cost effective alternatives. It isn't disgusting at all, you clown.
Still life in the old girls
Totally agree with you there
You've clearly never worked on them....
Other countries arent chasing some 'net zero' fantasy like that being forced on us by a cabal of politicians and climate activists.
Sad to see but at least they are having another chance at life. I was told today that 11 powercars are going by boat to Nigeria. Make of that what you will. Nicely filmed too.
Thank you. was worth the trip out to film them, lucky it was not far for me.
I wonder why they haven't tried them on the Waterloo - Exeter St David's route with consideration of replacing the class159's. They did clearance tests on the Class 43's in the early 1990's with this is mind but went with the 159's. They could run them as 2+6 units, however there would be problems on the Salisbury - Waterloo trains in the mornings and evenings, when they run 9 car trains.
Running them on the Waterloo-Exeter St. David route would be better for all us HST lovers, than shipping them off. At least we'd get to carry on seeing them at work!
Thanks for commenting!
answered you own question there... "however there would be problems on the Salisbury - Waterloo trains in the mornings and evenings, when they run 9 car trains"
There are 114 HTS CLASS 43 .. 5 exported to Mexico ( btw max speed for them there is just 60mph ) … 40 HST are stored at the moment 16 have been preserved and 24 scrapped
Thanks for the figures, I always love to hear them!
It's a shame that 24 have been scrapped, yet only 16 have been preserved.
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**UPDATE** 43009, 43016 were loaded onto a ship at Gt Yarmouth Outer Harbour on 22nd October 2023. The ships name is the "Panthera J".
Does anyone know when the ferry or what transport they're taking leaves?
I cant find a name of a ship. Turns out some are Mexico bound and some Nigeria. Not sure if they have already been moved to the docks.
Well the first ship that took the first badge of 125s to Mexico was the BBC Arkhangelsk but that ship is currently in Chile South America so I doubt that ship will be the same one to deliver the rest of the trains
They will probably be good for another 10 - 20 years. So will last as long as the Hitachi HST's we now have over here😂
They will last a month.
It's a shame that we now live in a world where "newer is better", even though most of the time that simply isn't the case!
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@gamerfan8445 You're giving them that long?!
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Ironic the first two MTU conversations there.
But My 43016 tho .
Indeed, I hope someone will post videos of them working in their new homes, so we still get to see them in action!
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Three of the oldest power cars I see. Incidentally I once travelled behind 43010 from Slough into Paddington.
Been many years since I travelled on a HST, sadly.
What about the guage
Same as UK so not a issue.
Photos on a recent press trip have included a set of stairs on a dolly to bring people up the the UK door height.
4ft 8 and a half inches standard worldwide. Metric maniacs convert to whatever in their preferred figures but still the same.width.
@@roysimmons3549 1435mm is not standard worldwide. Many countries use many different gauges. Russia uses 1520mm, Finland usually uses 1524mm and India has a national network of 1676mm.
It's like when the deltics stopped
I was only about 6 years old when the deltics were withdrawn
Sad times for British engineering good times for Mexico, thank you very much department of transport, what’s the saying if it’s not broke don’t try fix it 🤷♂️
Unfortunately it seems to be the way of life nowadays, which is a sad state of affairs!
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They should utilise these brilliant sets into four or five car trains for beautifully scenic routes such as the Heart of Wales Line and the Cambrian Coast Line in Wales plus other jewels in the UK railways crown just as they have done in Scotland! X
Sounds like a great idea to me. Sadly wont happen.
The Cambrian Line would have been excellent for them but would they have been able to fit all the platforms ?
@@gxhall It's a lovely idea, but I think you're right that they wouldn't fit all platforms. I know they also don't fit all platforms from where I am in East Anglia.
Thanks for commenting, I hope you enjoyed the video and thanks for subscribing!
@@MerlinHuffy There are some short platforms in East Anglia
@@gxhall Too many around my area! Restricts on what you can see without it being a blur as it uses the station as a pass rather than a stop! And even now, I believe it's Halesworth Station that still doesn't fit the everyday Greater Anglia trains too!
Unless they've been or are going to be modified they will surely struggle in the Mexican hotter climate.
The XPT power cars were modified from day one to have double the engine cooling than the Class 43 they are based on to suit the Australian heat.
They're running at a maximum of 80km/h in 2+5 configuration. They'll be fine.
@@Martindyna There's a Wikipedia entry here with some basic information:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ferrocarril_Trans%C3%ADstmico#Redevelopment
Here's a video from a recent ride by the Mexican president. The non-stop end to end journey took in the region of 6-7 hours.
ua-cam.com/video/pEJyqP4V-wY/v-deo.html
So sad once again to see these excellent machines put out to pasture, or if Mexico, desert!😢
@@karlosbricks2413 yes true I agree I think that the MTU power unit fitted to them will be downrated and they will be regeared for lower speed operating and obviously too less trailer cars in the consist
Well those locomotives are going to Mexico, a nation that shares Britain's love for beer and soccer!😊
Rest in peace
Off to Nigeria apparently
Seems some are off to the Mayan Ruins in Mexico, and some are off to Nigeria, you're absolutely correct!
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Noo not the first two MTUs
I know! A sad day!
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I think it’s great Mexico has them, they will rot here get graffiti on them, weeds cover them, then rust then booths scrapyard after being cut up as they will have a massive price tag on them all the way to scrap so I can’t buy one
ua-cam.com/video/uvRpgkArY8Q/v-deo.htmlsi=Aks4VERQFK5wrD0g
I have heard from a friend who was in Mexico recently, that these will be used to go between archeological sites in the Mayan ruins. If that's the case, at least they will have a decent purpose.
Maybe we should all chip in and share-buy one?!
Thanks for commenting!
@@MerlinHuffythey will be used at "Corredor Interoceánico del Istmo de Tehuantepec", from Coatzacoalcos to Oaxaca.
I'm amazed that they got there under their own 'steam'. I prefer it when they go on low loaders. Then you can make a poor TV programme about it. 🤓
Hahahaha! Brilliant!
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🎬🦺⭐️👌
Thanks for commenting! Glad you liked the video!
Good bye hsts from the UK 🇬🇧 😊
I think it's safe to say that all train enthusiasts agree here!
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Good bye hsts
A very fond farewell, I'm glad I'm not the only one sad to see them leave!
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