My wife and I took our Briggs and Riley ZDX 21'' spinners on a trip to Italy last year and they performed flawlessly. The build quality is excellent and the wheels roll very smoothly. They also fit easily in even the smallest overhead compartments.
Word of advice for anyone complaining about price. Over our summer trip to Italy, I brought a fairly cheaper budget checked bag I got from a big box store. Once we made it to Italy, it must’ve landed on a wheel and it got caved in a bit. It was still manageable, but not very convenient. In a mad dash to one of our trains, it landed on the same wheel running down the stairs and exploded off while also crushing another wheel. The walk from the train station to our next hotel was absolute hell in the July sun. I ended up buying some luggage from a random shop, which I ended up replacing with something much sturdier. You get what you pay for, and often times buying cheap means you’ll be replacing it off. Up front cost is much better than replacing it every year, or being absolutely miserable on your trip.
@@TheBourbonWrench sure but I certainly won’t buy a luggage worth as much as my round trip ticket considering I fly once per 10 years 😆. Moderation cost is the key. 🔑 American Tourister or Amazon Basics are the ways to go.
One of the most important things for me is a handle on the bottom and despite the high cost of these, I didn't notice a handle on the bottom of any of them. picking up a heavy bag for a woman can be difficult without a bottom handle
Back again - and knew what my favorite was before watching the video. Glad we agree on Briggs & Riley. My travel career has been Samsonite -> Travel Pro -> Briggs & Riley. I have a different model than the one reviewed here (older model Baseline) and bought it for its innovative CX expansion feature (kinda makes the entire suitcase a compression cube!) and because I'm a suiter nerd. My personal belief is a 'suiter' is a feature more travelers should take advantage of. I got used to it when I was traveling on business with suits. Even though dress codes have relaxed, and I do less business travel, I still find it incredibly useful. All my tops on hangers (wire) rolled up into the suiter (with a few undergarments to occupy the space above the hangers) - its like a packing cube built into the bag. Then when I get to where I'm going, all of my tops are hung up in the closet in 5 seconds. So satisfying.
I had gotten a travel pro set 15 years ago or so. Only travel occasionally. Last year bought an expensive tumi bag for my first international flight with latest and greatest features. But I tend to go back to the travel pro with its lid opening vs the tumis clamshell. Get to the hotel and put it on a luggage stand with a compact form factor. Compact form factor seems better than the extra organization that clamshell gives. Nothing essentially wrong with the Tumi but also nothing wrong with travelpro either.
I read a review on Amazon about the Travel Pro Patriot Blue and Tan soft side. He said it wouldn’t stand up on its own if you let go of it so he returned it.
With more then 750+ flights over 25 years of travel for work and leisure, Travel Pro has been my go-to luggage, averaging over 200 trips between replacement. I picked up Travel Pro following the lead of flight attendants over 20 years ago.
I'm here looking to finally replace my 25 year old TravelPro Platinum-2 bags. Also business traveler with over 800k miles (basis my FF programs) on these boys. Either buy new ones and upgrade or replace the wheels, which are the only thing wrong. Trying to decide. Same intro here, noticed all the flight crews with these.
I love my Briggs and Riley for international travel. I have used them for over 10 years and they have held up well. Purchased a larger travel pro for longer car travel because of the price difference
I’ve been a road warrior since 2006. I love my Briggs and Riley. They are tough bags and when stuff finally does break they fix it no questions asked. I bought a cheap spinner years ago, it broke on the very first trip. The repair cost was almost as much as the bag. I threw it in the trash. I agree not everyone should spend $500 on a bag. But if you’re on a plane 20 times a year for work I’m going to assume you can afford a quality bag.
I was so happy the Briggs and Riley was included in this roundup. I've been vascillating for a few days, there are some negative reviews about its wheels out there. But I admit, cost is not that much of a concern and I wanted something that looks great and is light. For me, the single deciding factor is the outside mounted handle. I am so tired of rolling up small stuff to fill the gaps around the handle poles.
I have two Briggs and Riley bags... built like tanks, functionality like no other and that lifetime warranty. I also have a Tumi carry on that I owned for 10 years and went all over the world with me. Then the handle broke and Tumi refused to fix it. I spent some time in the Briggs and Riley store and learned why Tumi no longer honors its warranty. I will never buy a Tumi again. Briggs and Riley for me.
Yes, I wasn’t going to name names but yes, that’s the reason. I’m not against samsonite, they make reasonable products but for $900 I’d expect much higher levels of quality and service.
Tumi will repair your handle, just take it to a store and they will send it to a repair center with a shipping fee of $25. They will send you an estimate of the costs :)
My softside Olympia carry on that I bought before my wedding 23 years ago barely has any wear inspite of international travel and decades of family trips. It is a two wheeler so, not on your list and obviously I cannot speak to how they are made now or price, but I am so glad I got it. It is 1/3-2/3 clam shell which I like. If I had to get a new one I would like a charger port and flat bottom/external handle, but otherwise it does the job. I enjoyed your review and appreciate the research you did.
Still using my Tumi rolling carryon I bought in 1998. I’ve used it on hundreds of flights, checked it when necessary without a second thought, and it’s a top open (no clamshell) newer bags have more features, but this beast just works. I kind of want to replace it, but I just can’t justify it.
After doing a ton of research a few years back, I concluded the Travelpro Elite offered the best balance of function and value. I was glad to see you came to the same conclusion. I'm not concerned with status and labels. I don't really care if my luggage gets noticed. In fact, I prefer not to carry brands like Tumi, I think they bring unwelcome attention in many parts of the world. Travelpro is high quality, but won't lead bystanders to make assumptions about what's in my bag or wallet.
B&R ZDX is easily the best bag I have ever owned. Perfect size and features for our 15 day trip to Italy last May. Pricey, but worth every penny if you amortize the cost over a lifetime of use.
any regrets going zdx vs baseline ?? or for the price the zdx has been great ?? (what color did you choose ?? holding up well ?? ) liking the zdx the more I look at it... thanks for your time
@@JoelSc14 TBH I never really looked at the Baseline...I follow a couple who are full-time travelers and I think that they have two of ZDX. No issues at all and as I noted in my comment with the right packing it can easily work for a 2 week trip. I have the hunter green, but would have purchased the ocean if it was available and I think that P2 will be getting that color.
I bought the Travelpro Crew VersaPack Global Carry On Expandable Spinner last year and I couldn't be more pleased. Sturdy telescoping handle, excellent spinner wheels that are well-constructed and move smoothly through the airport and on the plane going down the aisle, high quality ballistic nylon protected with stain resistance, etc. . . Total price was about $235 including shipping and tax and I did purchase it when I could get a small discount.
Thanks for all these great videos. I married a foreign lady, and we had to make a lot of overseas trips before she got her green card. We still have to travel sometimes. I always used a giant Tumi bag because I had to bring her things from the US. The bag would weigh 40 pounds when I left and 20 pounds when I flew home. Now that she's in the US, we can pack less. Air France and Aer Lingus literally stole my wife's bag, and insurer Heymondo refused to pay, as did the airlines. We are looking for ways to avoid checking bags, and I'm going to try the Travelpro Platinum Elite.
I’m using an old Wenger carry on 6.17 lbs (2.8kg). Built perfectly. Very large inside due to 2 wheels. Checked it in a few times, used as cabin bag a ton of times, it’s good for Ryanair and Wizzair “large” cabin bag. And it was very cheap - around 50 eur. I don’t see it going away any time soon😊
As a road warrior for the last 30 years, I've owned all of these bags except Hartmann. Today, I would only purchase B&R, Travelpro, and Victorinox (in that order). Although the latter is not always known for size compliant bags. Tumi "was" built like a tank. Heavy, but beautiful. Sadly, the clamshell doesn't work well for me on luggage racks, and it's simply too expensive (even on sale). Great video.
@@Ros44 Sorry for the delayed response. I would prefer Travelpro over Samsonite (for quality of spinners and handle), as long as the Travelpro is size compliant for your airline. They should both be in the same price range.
Great video, Nik. So glad you included the Briggs and Riley. I've been obsessively researching for a few days now. After watching, and reading the comments, I went ahead and ordered it in Hunter. I actually still find my sturdy old eBag nearly perfect, but a few things bugged me and the flat inside of the Briggs was the deciding factor.
I see a lot of Briggs and Riley fans in the comments. I am a retired pilot, 33 years at my airline, and I would put a lifetime of normal use on my suitcase every year. My suitcase was never fully unpacked, and never stowed away in a closet. My first was a TravelPro, junk within a year. Then I splurged for a Zero Halliburton. I loved the suitcase, but this was before rolling luggage, and I decided I needed wheels. I then bought a Briggs and Riley. Used it for about 10 years, had it repaired (for free) twice, and finally decided a new suitcase was in order, although the Briggs was still functional. So about 10 years ago now, I bought another Briggs, an improved model, and it is my suitcase to this day.
The Max Lite 5 by Travelpro 19 inch great international carry on. I also have the Swiss Gear 18" 4010 that has been on both transatlantic and transcontinental both as checked and as a carry on. It's held up well but the Travelpro is much better.
Thank you for the detailed review ... I travel quite a lot and i´ve been using my Samsonite carry on for a good amount of time ...My previous one was a purple 2wheeler that I retired from service after 9 years of use ( but in perfect shape) , and 2 years ago I upgraded to a purple 4 wheeler ( also Samsonite) ...can´t remember the model but it has expansion ,TSA lock , handles on all sides and a good size front pocket for my laptop. I´m not fan of built in additions because I have my set of perfectly sized cubes( honestly just meassured the interior of my bag and browsed on Amazon until I found some that fit like a glove, in vertical position )
Almost 3 pounds lighter and more than 10L of extra volume to pack in, the Travelpro Maxlite 5 Softside Expandable Upright 2 Wheel Carry On for $145 is THE WAY TO GO!!! You chose the right brand, but they have an even better bag! Check it out! We’ve taken it all over N America, Ctrl & S America, Africa, SE Asia & Europe - still looks and functions great!
I love my soft sided Kipling bags, I’ve had them for years, and they still look like new. Lightweight, wheels are fantastic, handle is sturdy, they look great too.
Hello, I have 3 TUMI carry-on , just loved the style and innovation they put on each luggage and more option in color and material. Thanks for the different review on the every brand.
Thanks for this. I may be the odd one out, but I always use a lightweight 2-wheel bag. Mainly Travelpro brand - currently their Maxlite 5 at 2.5 kilos. The 2-wheelers have more space for the same dimensions. I have bought spinners, but wheels often break. For 30+ years I usually take 20-30 flights a year, so they get a lot of use. I am probably on my 7th Travelpro. I have a Tumi given to me but it was way too heavy at over 5 kilos.
Most manufacturers use cheap, flimsy aluminum in the handles, so they need them to be inside or they will bend. Briggs and Riley uses aircraft grade aluminum so they can put the handles outside.
Because you give up some interior space. The space between the rails on the inside is good for smaller items. It’s a trade off. That’s a main reason I don’t use 4wheel spinners for carryons. All that air between the 4 wheels counts against your 22x14 size restriction but it’s useless.
I may be in the minority but I prefer the slightly extra packing space by having the track inside. Then the full outer size of the case gives you three more cubbies inside the bag
That Briggs and Riley bag is available through Costco for $380. We have a travel pro and really like it. But we are considering this B&R bag for a second carry on bag.
I am leaning toward the TravelPro or the Samsonite. I need to replace an Embark(??) bag and a swissgear. I am not as heavy duty traveler as most, but want to balance carry-on bag with a roller "personal" or computer bag. Thanks for the honest review.
I’m not attached to brands . I got an extra piece of luggage in Liverpool and it cost me £59 for a midsize luggage . I’ll take it again to my trip next year . If it survives my marathon then it’s a winner . I’d be scared about spending $895 on a Tumi but I also have a pacsafe bag for my passport , documents and money that I consider the best investment for a safer trip .
You get what you pay for. Briggs and Riley, Hartman, Travel Pro are expensive but have been around a long time and are built to last with features designed based on years of actual use. I personally use a Hartman because I got it on sale about 15 years ago.
I bought a bag with two wheels (relatively hard to find now because 4 is the fashion) because the wheels are partially built into the case which means that you get more internal space than in a 4 wheeler because the external size of the 4 wheelers include the air underneath the case !
I agree with you, and my preference is also a two wheel bag. They are also better if you are stopped on an incline, as a 4 wheel bag can roll away in you, but not a 2 wheeler.
We have several pieces of luggage, funny how luggage like clothing things come back “in style”. Suitcases used to be hard sides, remember Samsonite commercial with the gorilla tossing the suitcase around? I have had Delsey, American Tourister, still have Samsonite 26” soft sides, 2 wheels & 28” hard shell 4 wheels, 21” carry ons hard shell 4 wheels, TravelPro Crew9 (21”or 22”) 2 wheels, Samsonite 20” soft side 4 wheels and we have have other numerous ones I don’t remember so probably not worth thinking about. Our backpacks are Briggs & Riley and Peak Design. Each one bought for a specific purpose at the time of purchase. The ones we favor the most though are the 2 wheeled Samsonite 26” and the TravelPro carry on. Why? Because we can pack more in them when we need to, sometimes our travels are only a few days in one place before moving on, the way softsides open is a smaller footprint so easy to find a place to open it and not having to maneuver around it. I’m now looking for replacements for our 26” bags as they have taken a beating and finally wearing on the corners.
I have something called a rucksack picked up through Rick Steves travel site. fantastic design. soft shell. expandable. backpack straps or handle. no wheels but small enough to not be a burden. I take the one bag for 3 days or 3 weeks.
Having worked at Hartsfield Airport in Atlanta, just be aware that your luggage gets treated brutally in the loading process. Bags are all dumped together and tossed around.
Not included on you list is Ricardo of Beverly Hills. I traveled over 150k by air before I retired and my Ricardo carryon lasted me over 12 years of business travel and now I use it for pleasure travel during retirement. I love the garment bag compartment!
I never see anyone comment or review the Ricardo carryon with 4 spinner wheels. I have probably had mine 9 or 10 years and have done quite a few international and USA trips. It still looks fairly new and has held up well.
I purchased my carry-on in this size from Costco in 2002. This thing is a durable beast! Over 20 years later, it is still my go-to travel suitcase. The wheels still spin just fine (I silicon lube them occasionally), the zippers are still in tact and the inside is still just fine. NOTHING has gone wrong with this carry-on and it has been probably over 250 flights. Kirkland Signature travel equipment rocks! Am taking it to Germany next month for 2 weeks as my only suitcase. I am sure it will serve me well once more.
YES! To Briggs & Riley. Well built, well sized, incredible warranty I have had to use a few times. The only problem is if you want to use as carry on for flights with carry on weight limits, they run a little bit heavier than some other brands like Samsonite. NO! No! No! To Tumi! Nice bag, but warranty is NOT honored. Had one for just over a year and the handle broke. Tumi said their warranty didn’t cover the handle - Huh? Wife’s Tumi bag had a problem with the wheel 6 months later and again, no warranty coverage. They claim an all inclusive warranty but it is not honored. Threw the Tumi bags away.
The problem with roller carry-ons is the weight. 8 to 10 pounds of bag to carry 10-15 pounds of stuff. Lifting 25 pounds into the overhead might be a problem for some, especially with back issues. I have one that is about 6. The lighter the better. I usually check my bag. I use a medium sized checked Travel Pro.
Great video, thanks! What are your thoughts on trolley style carry-on bags, particularly as a way to haul a backpack or second bag via hook for low center of gravity?
I'm team soft-sided here, but amazingly, I've never owned soft-sided spinner luggage (yet lol), which I think is the best of both worlds. The only challenge I have with spinner wheels is that they eat up valuable packing space, which for a long-term carry-on traveler, is GOLD. I think the Briggs & Riley looks terrific (and I have a friend with that bag and he adores it. He says the lifetime warranty justifies the price. The expansion capacity clinches it for me as being the most flexible of the bunch too.
I discovered that the Briggs and Riley spinner wheels use very little interior space compared to other bags. More importantly, the telescoping handle doesn't use any interior space on B&R bags! I love my B&R ZDX bags. It's my first lightweight but well-built bag.
The Hartman weighs almost 10 pounds which means you could only take 15 pounds of clothing and toiletries. I had a Tumi, but on a trip, the handle wouldn’t retract and stayed stuck out. That shouldn’t happen to an expensive suitcase. I only used it occasionally for about 3 years
My pick above all these is the Plume Cabin Size Spinner Lipault. At 4.8 pounds this bag has great spinner wheels and I've taken it on 4 international trips and many in the US. It has held up great, fits the international plane sizes for carryon, and is under $200. Why are you not reviewing it?
Great video, very informative review. I never thought of the other brands, but this video is very helpful for me to decide if ever I need to purchase a soft sided carry on.
I used to have Hartmann. They worked well. Took a lot of abuse on the outside but kept everything inside safe. Then after one trip, the inside one of the bags suddenly started smelling like spoiled milk. No explanation. No way to get the smell out. No help from Hartmann. I moved to Briggs and Riley and I love them. They have been all over Asia. Planes, boats (not ships, little speed boats), taxis trikes. There is scuffin on the wheels but even after nbine years thy still look near new. And the Briggs and Riley guarantee is the best.
Condor requires a depth of no more than 7.8" and ALL of the bags we've seen are 9-10". Can someone comment on this discrepancy? Thank you so much for the excellent video!
Hey hey! Thanks for this awesome video. I am leaving for some long, slow, indefinite travels through Europe soon, and some of the smaller airlines I am flying with (like Turkish Airlines) have a depth requirement of 7" max - not 9" or 10"! Do you know if this is common? I'm finding that most "carry on" bags are larger than that - so I'm pretty frustrated trying to find the perfect bag
My "brocade" soft side from about the 90's meets international standards, has an EXTERNAL handle setup like the expensive one and a J hook and, frankly, it's probably is as good as anything out there now. It was part of a set (I sold the bigger ones). Has 2 recessed ROLLERS that really don't take up interior space and little feet and stands strong. Not a clamshell, either. Great zippers which can take a lock. I'm not feeling that enticed by most of the stuff being sold now...esp.at the prices on some of these things. Also, some of what I've researched as "lightweight" are nearly or actually heavier than my approx. 8 lb bag! And a lot of them are actually bigger than the optimum 22 x 14 x 9 in at least one measurement.
The higher end TravelPros are probably worth it, but I bought one of their lower cost Maxlite bags and my extension handle got stuck extended when I was trying to check in in Athens. They took it and did something to force it down, but now it’s stuck down. Even if I get it fixed under warranty, it will be hard to trust it again.
I just bought the Briggs & Riley, and while I like the compression system, flat bottom, and ease of rolling, it's so dang heavy at over 10 lbs. I haven't gone on my trip yet, but I'm seriously worried this carry-on is going to throw out my back, esp since I'll be wheeling it around all day long. I'm thinking about returning it and getting a different roller that weighs under 6 lbs. I just haven't found any that seem very good so far...I only want soft-side, so if anyone has recommendations let me know. Worth mentioning, I already bought and returned the TravelPro because it doesn't steer very well, esp compared with the Briggs.
Soft side is top open. There are no hardside top open luggage that I know of. Delsey had one once, but I can't find it anymore. I have one 22" Delsey hard side top open. I fell on it and bent the handle tube. I can't find a new one anywhere. Top open is great for sharing a hotel luggage shelf. Clamps shell opening means you can't leave it open if you travel with someone. Softies also have outside pockets. Expensive bags make you a target..."rob that guy." 😂
I have the travelpro bag and it has a major design flaw. It expands outside the footprint of the wheels, kind of like a beer gut, which makes it unbalanced and prone to tipping over.
My pet peeve with the cheaper carry ons is the flimsy telespopic handle. The 4 wheel spinners is the trend now, but you are losing a day’s worth of clothes that you can otherwise pack with those higher wheels.
I think my TUMI was only 500, but then I bought it 8-9 years ago, and I travel HEAVYLY. as well I check it in anymore as I have a pelican equipment case I have to check anyway. I have had it in one time to repair the extendable handle about 3 years ago. no charge. don't know I would buy a 800+ one now though. even if my average would be under 100 a year depreciation.
Adding one more comment that I am looking at three different TravelPro items. The one you showed above really measures 23 inches not 22 inches. I’m undecided on either the platinum elite carry-on spinner versus the Crew classic compact carry-on, expandable spinner versus the Crew versapack Global carry on spinner. Hello, I am coming to this late, but I really need help figuring out which TravelPro carry-on luggage to buy for two upcoming international trips. Right now I’m looking at The Travelpro platinum elite carry-on, spinner versus the Crew classic compact carry-on expandable spinner versus the Crew versapack Global carry-on spinner. Like you I get concerned about that 1 inch and half inch extra size that goes over the 22 x 14 x 9 international requirement on the Platinum Elite, which has the most positive reviews. I know the Platinum Elite reviews say that it seems to work on international flights, but who wants to stress at the gate once there. I also want to know about the inside dimensions since I do pack a lot but I want to make this work for my 12 days. What to do! Which one of these three! I’d love to know what you ended up choosing. Thank you.
I”m too looking at the same TravelPro bags specifically for international flights. I am leaning towards the Crew Versapack Global spinner. Which one did you end up buying?
So wait. Is there another video where you compare the Monos to the Samsonite and the Briggs? Lol. I'm trying to get to the overall bracket winner. We are so close. Finish the job sir lol.
Thanks for the video! Very informative! Now my real question is after buying 7 hard shell luggage and all these carry ons - do you return the ones you don’t like? Or do you have a garage full of carry on luggage?😂
I am 6'7" and need a bag with a longer handle that I can carry on. Are the handle lengths all the same on the bags you reviewed? I like the Briggs & Riley.
I have 6 different pieces of Tumi luggage in different sizes that I've acquired over the years. Tumi used to be buy-it-for-life bags but after they were acquired by Samsonite they've been turned into a luxury brand and now they're nowhere near as durable as they were just 10 years ago. The high price used to mean quality but now it's just for luxury. I will switch to another brand for my next luggage purchase.
You left out Victorinox. For a long time they were known to be some of the best luggage made. Idk how many times I’ve heard people whisper “hey he’s got the Victorinox.” Or “excuse me sir, how do you like those Victorinox luggage?” True stories. They used to be on par with Briggs and Tumis. Maybe even better. Back in the day, they had lifetime warranties. The best in the segment. Idk how many times I’ve gotten new luggage replacements for free. I haven’t looked at their products lately so idk how they stack up.
My wife and I took our Briggs and Riley ZDX 21'' spinners on a trip to Italy last year and they performed flawlessly. The build quality is excellent and the wheels roll very smoothly. They also fit easily in even the smallest overhead compartments.
I was in Turkey recently and had a empriente multi pouchette with me. They show me a *hotdups* bag and it looked just like it.
Word of advice for anyone complaining about price. Over our summer trip to Italy, I brought a fairly cheaper budget checked bag I got from a big box store. Once we made it to Italy, it must’ve landed on a wheel and it got caved in a bit. It was still manageable, but not very convenient.
In a mad dash to one of our trains, it landed on the same wheel running down the stairs and exploded off while also crushing another wheel. The walk from the train station to our next hotel was absolute hell in the July sun.
I ended up buying some luggage from a random shop, which I ended up replacing with something much sturdier.
You get what you pay for, and often times buying cheap means you’ll be replacing it off. Up front cost is much better than replacing it every year, or being absolutely miserable on your trip.
Buy cheap, buy twice.
@@TheBourbonWrench sure but I certainly won’t buy a luggage worth as much as my round trip ticket considering I fly once per 10 years 😆. Moderation cost is the key. 🔑 American Tourister or Amazon Basics are the ways to go.
One of the most important things for me is a handle on the bottom and despite the high cost of these, I didn't notice a handle on the bottom of any of them. picking up a heavy bag for a woman can be difficult without a bottom handle
Back again - and knew what my favorite was before watching the video. Glad we agree on Briggs & Riley. My travel career has been Samsonite -> Travel Pro -> Briggs & Riley. I have a different model than the one reviewed here (older model Baseline) and bought it for its innovative CX expansion feature (kinda makes the entire suitcase a compression cube!) and because I'm a suiter nerd.
My personal belief is a 'suiter' is a feature more travelers should take advantage of. I got used to it when I was traveling on business with suits. Even though dress codes have relaxed, and I do less business travel, I still find it incredibly useful. All my tops on hangers (wire) rolled up into the suiter (with a few undergarments to occupy the space above the hangers) - its like a packing cube built into the bag. Then when I get to where I'm going, all of my tops are hung up in the closet in 5 seconds. So satisfying.
*hotdups* purse pieces are unique and classic. they are not the typical luxury designer bags that we already seen from the other collectors
I was just given a TravelPro by a flight crew member who didn't want it anymore. It is so sturdy! I love it.
I had gotten a travel pro set 15 years ago or so. Only travel occasionally. Last year bought an expensive tumi bag for my first international flight with latest and greatest features. But I tend to go back to the travel pro with its lid opening vs the tumis clamshell. Get to the hotel and put it on a luggage stand with a compact form factor. Compact form factor seems better than the extra organization that clamshell gives. Nothing essentially wrong with the Tumi but also nothing wrong with travelpro either.
@@rbrad848I am tempted to splurge on Tumi. They are gorgeous but a little bit heavy.
I read a review on Amazon about the Travel Pro Patriot Blue and Tan soft side. He said it wouldn’t stand up on its own if you let go of it so he returned it.
With more then 750+ flights over 25 years of travel for work and leisure, Travel Pro has been my go-to luggage, averaging over 200 trips between replacement.
I picked up Travel Pro following the lead of flight attendants over 20 years ago.
I'm here looking to finally replace my 25 year old TravelPro Platinum-2 bags. Also business traveler with over 800k miles (basis my FF programs) on these boys. Either buy new ones and upgrade or replace the wheels, which are the only thing wrong. Trying to decide. Same intro here, noticed all the flight crews with these.
I love my Briggs and Riley for international travel. I have used them for over 10 years and they have held up well. Purchased a larger travel pro for longer car travel because of the price difference
I’ve been a road warrior since 2006. I love my Briggs and Riley. They are tough bags and when stuff finally does break they fix it no questions asked. I bought a cheap spinner years ago, it broke on the very first trip. The repair cost was almost as much as the bag. I threw it in the trash. I agree not everyone should spend $500 on a bag. But if you’re on a plane 20 times a year for work I’m going to assume you can afford a quality bag.
I was so happy the Briggs and Riley was included in this roundup. I've been vascillating for a few days, there are some negative reviews about its wheels out there. But I admit, cost is not that much of a concern and I wanted something that looks great and is light. For me, the single deciding factor is the outside mounted handle. I am so tired of rolling up small stuff to fill the gaps around the handle poles.
I have two Briggs and Riley bags... built like tanks, functionality like no other and that lifetime warranty. I also have a Tumi carry on that I owned for 10 years and went all over the world with me. Then the handle broke and Tumi refused to fix it. I spent some time in the Briggs and Riley store and learned why Tumi no longer honors its warranty. I will never buy a Tumi again. Briggs and Riley for me.
Tumi was purchased by Samsonite so that’s probably your answer
Yes, I wasn’t going to name names but yes, that’s the reason. I’m not against samsonite, they make reasonable products but for $900 I’d expect much higher levels of quality and service.
@@lululee1653 Samsonite also bought Hartmann...probably over 10 years ago.
Tumi will repair your handle, just take it to a store and they will send it to a repair center with a shipping fee of $25.
They will send you an estimate of the costs :)
My softside Olympia carry on that I bought before my wedding 23 years ago barely has any wear inspite of international travel and decades of family trips. It is a two wheeler so, not on your list and obviously I cannot speak to how they are made now or price, but I am so glad I got it. It is 1/3-2/3 clam shell which I like. If I had to get a new one I would like a charger port and flat bottom/external handle, but otherwise it does the job. I enjoyed your review and appreciate the research you did.
the *hotdups* would be super cute during the fall with a nude or tan or even tonal outfit! i’m thinking a tan wool coat with that bag!!
Still using my Tumi rolling carryon I bought in 1998. I’ve used it on hundreds of flights, checked it when necessary without a second thought, and it’s a top open (no clamshell) newer bags have more features, but this beast just works. I kind of want to replace it, but I just can’t justify it.
After doing a ton of research a few years back, I concluded the Travelpro Elite offered the best balance of function and value. I was glad to see you came to the same conclusion.
I'm not concerned with status and labels. I don't really care if my luggage gets noticed. In fact, I prefer not to carry brands like Tumi, I think they bring unwelcome attention in many parts of the world. Travelpro is high quality, but won't lead bystanders to make assumptions about what's in my bag or wallet.
B&R ZDX is easily the best bag I have ever owned. Perfect size and features for our 15 day trip to Italy last May. Pricey, but worth every penny if you amortize the cost over a lifetime of use.
Amen - great perspective!
any regrets going zdx vs baseline ?? or for the price the zdx has been great ?? (what color did you choose ?? holding up well ?? ) liking the zdx the more I look at it... thanks for your time
@@JoelSc14 TBH I never really looked at the Baseline...I follow a couple who are full-time travelers and I think that they have two of ZDX. No issues at all and as I noted in my comment with the right packing it can easily work for a 2 week trip. I have the hunter green, but would have purchased the ocean if it was available and I think that P2 will be getting that color.
Awesome, thanks so much!
(green has held up color wise checked?) all 3 seem nice
I have the TravelPro Maxlite and really like it. Very lightweight and sturdy. It does get a bit tipsy sometimes but not too limiting
My Dad has that bag and swears by it!
I bought the Travelpro Crew VersaPack Global Carry On Expandable Spinner last year and I couldn't be more pleased. Sturdy telescoping handle, excellent spinner wheels that are well-constructed and move smoothly through the airport and on the plane going down the aisle, high quality ballistic nylon protected with stain resistance, etc. . . Total price was about $235 including shipping and tax and I did purchase it when I could get a small discount.
Thanks for all these great videos. I married a foreign lady, and we had to make a lot of overseas trips before she got her green card. We still have to travel sometimes. I always used a giant Tumi bag because I had to bring her things from the US. The bag would weigh 40 pounds when I left and 20 pounds when I flew home. Now that she's in the US, we can pack less.
Air France and Aer Lingus literally stole my wife's bag, and insurer Heymondo refused to pay, as did the airlines. We are looking for ways to avoid checking bags, and I'm going to try the Travelpro Platinum Elite.
I’m using an old Wenger carry on 6.17 lbs (2.8kg). Built perfectly. Very large inside due to 2 wheels. Checked it in a few times, used as cabin bag a ton of times, it’s good for Ryanair and Wizzair “large” cabin bag. And it was very cheap - around 50 eur. I don’t see it going away any time soon😊
Lipault carry on- the lightest and easiest I’ve used. The wheels are great and sturdy.
As a road warrior for the last 30 years, I've owned all of these bags except Hartmann. Today, I would only purchase B&R, Travelpro, and Victorinox (in that order). Although the latter is not always known for size compliant bags. Tumi "was" built like a tank. Heavy, but beautiful. Sadly, the clamshell doesn't work well for me on luggage racks, and it's simply too expensive (even on sale). Great video.
And what about Samsonite? Do you have some expirience with it?
@@Ros44 Sorry for the delayed response. I would prefer Travelpro over Samsonite (for quality of spinners and handle), as long as the Travelpro is size compliant for your airline. They should both be in the same price range.
@@DaveM-FFB Thank you for you reply. ❤
Great video, Nik. So glad you included the Briggs and Riley. I've been obsessively researching for a few days now. After watching, and reading the comments, I went ahead and ordered it in Hunter. I actually still find my sturdy old eBag nearly perfect, but a few things bugged me and the flat inside of the Briggs was the deciding factor.
I see a lot of Briggs and Riley fans in the comments. I am a retired pilot, 33 years at my airline, and I would put a lifetime of normal use on my suitcase every year. My suitcase was never fully unpacked, and never stowed away in a closet. My first was a TravelPro, junk within a year. Then I splurged for a Zero Halliburton. I loved the suitcase, but this was before rolling luggage, and I decided I needed wheels. I then bought a Briggs and Riley. Used it for about 10 years, had it repaired (for free) twice, and finally decided a new suitcase was in order, although the Briggs was still functional. So about 10 years ago now, I bought another Briggs, an improved model, and it is my suitcase to this day.
The Max Lite 5 by Travelpro 19 inch great international carry on. I also have the Swiss Gear 18" 4010 that has been on both transatlantic and transcontinental both as checked and as a carry on. It's held up well but the Travelpro is much better.
Thank you for the detailed review ... I travel quite a lot and i´ve been using my Samsonite carry on for a good amount of time ...My previous one was a purple 2wheeler that I retired from service after 9 years of use ( but in perfect shape) , and 2 years ago I upgraded to a purple 4 wheeler ( also Samsonite) ...can´t remember the model but it has expansion ,TSA lock , handles on all sides and a good size front pocket for my laptop. I´m not fan of built in additions because I have my set of perfectly sized cubes( honestly just meassured the interior of my bag and browsed on Amazon until I found some that fit like a glove, in vertical position )
Almost 3 pounds lighter and more than 10L of extra volume to pack in, the Travelpro Maxlite 5 Softside Expandable Upright 2 Wheel Carry On for $145 is THE WAY TO GO!!! You chose the right brand, but they have an even better bag! Check it out! We’ve taken it all over N America, Ctrl & S America, Africa, SE Asia & Europe - still looks and functions great!
I have the TravelPro Maxlite and so far it has been great. Holds a lot, rolls along easily, sturdy handle.
I love my soft sided Kipling bags, I’ve had them for years, and they still look like new. Lightweight, wheels are fantastic, handle is sturdy, they look great too.
Hello, I have 3 TUMI carry-on , just loved the style and innovation they put on each luggage and more option in color and material. Thanks for the different review on the every brand.
For sure! They are high quality and such a respected name!
As a frequent traveler myself, TUMI is a NO. It's heavy. Samsonite is for me. Light, durable and easy service center.
Used my ZDX & cargo backpack for the first time : great travel duo!!
still enjoying the zdx ?? thinking that might be the line we choose for multiple pieces as well.. thanks for your time
Briggs & Riley user here. Worth every cent.
As always, a super informative review! Thanks for your time in making these
Most important for me is a handle placed on the bottom of the bag, between the wheels. Makes it a ton easier to pull the bag out of the overhead bin.
Great review, thank you for sharing! I'm interested in seeing a review between hard-sided and soft-sided carry-on and what works better.
Thanks! Check out this video! ua-cam.com/video/0J0pCyndY9Y/v-deo.html
Thanks for this. I may be the odd one out, but I always use a lightweight 2-wheel bag. Mainly Travelpro brand - currently their Maxlite 5 at 2.5 kilos. The 2-wheelers have more space for the same dimensions. I have bought spinners, but wheels often break. For 30+ years I usually take 20-30 flights a year, so they get a lot of use. I am probably on my 7th Travelpro. I have a Tumi given to me but it was way too heavy at over 5 kilos.
The external handle track on the Briggs & Riley so the inside is flat for packing! Why don’t ALL suitcases do this?!?!
Right???
Most manufacturers use cheap, flimsy aluminum in the handles, so they need them to be inside or they will bend. Briggs and Riley uses aircraft grade aluminum so they can put the handles outside.
Because you give up some interior space. The space between the rails on the inside is good for smaller items. It’s a trade off. That’s a main reason I don’t use 4wheel spinners for carryons. All that air between the 4 wheels counts against your 22x14 size restriction but it’s useless.
I may be in the minority but I prefer the slightly extra packing space by having the track inside. Then the full outer size of the case gives you three more cubbies inside the bag
@@David-nx2vm this
That Briggs and Riley bag is available through Costco for $380. We have a travel pro and really like it. But we are considering this B&R bag for a second carry on bag.
That's a GREAT price! Wish we had Costco around here.
Great video that I was just looking for!
Wish you covered the Briggs Riley Baseline essential for comparisons.
I am leaning toward the TravelPro or the Samsonite. I need to replace an Embark(??) bag and a swissgear. I am not as heavy duty traveler as most, but want to balance carry-on bag with a roller "personal" or computer bag. Thanks for the honest review.
I'd pick soft luggage over hard shell mainly for weight, but most of these are even heavier than the hard shell ones
I've had the same Travel Pro for a decade. Awesome suitcase, darn near indestructible. Had the Samsonite, zipper crapped out after a year.
I’m not attached to brands . I got an extra piece of luggage in Liverpool and it cost me £59 for a midsize luggage . I’ll take it again to my trip next year . If it survives my marathon then it’s a winner . I’d be scared about spending $895 on a Tumi but I also have a pacsafe bag for my passport , documents and money that I consider the best investment for a safer trip .
Super helpful! Thanks for all your efforts with these reviews!
you’re literally my comfort person i love you kislux !
TRAVELPRO!! They have stood by their warranty EVERY TIME!! Ihave 4 different models ranging from 20 years old to 1 year old. Love them all.
You get what you pay for. Briggs and Riley, Hartman, Travel Pro are expensive but have been around a long time and are built to last with features designed based on years of actual use. I personally use a Hartman because I got it on sale about 15 years ago.
I bought a bag with two wheels (relatively hard to find now because 4 is the fashion) because the wheels are partially built into the case which means that you get more internal space than in a 4 wheeler because the external size of the 4 wheelers include the air underneath the case !
I agree with you, and my preference is also a two wheel bag. They are also better if you are stopped on an incline, as a 4 wheel bag can roll away in you, but not a 2 wheeler.
We have several pieces of luggage, funny how luggage like clothing things come back “in style”. Suitcases used to be hard sides, remember Samsonite commercial with the gorilla tossing the suitcase around? I have had Delsey, American Tourister, still have Samsonite 26” soft sides, 2 wheels & 28” hard shell 4 wheels, 21” carry ons hard shell 4 wheels, TravelPro Crew9 (21”or 22”) 2 wheels, Samsonite 20” soft side 4 wheels and we have have other numerous ones I don’t remember so probably not worth thinking about. Our backpacks are Briggs & Riley and Peak Design. Each one bought for a specific purpose at the time of purchase. The ones we favor the most though are the 2 wheeled Samsonite 26” and the TravelPro carry on. Why? Because we can pack more in them when we need to, sometimes our travels are only a few days in one place before moving on, the way softsides open is a smaller footprint so easy to find a place to open it and not having to maneuver around it. I’m now looking for replacements for our 26” bags as they have taken a beating and finally wearing on the corners.
I have something called a rucksack picked up through Rick Steves travel site. fantastic design. soft shell. expandable. backpack straps or handle. no wheels but small enough to not be a burden. I take the one bag for 3 days or 3 weeks.
I am so glad I found your channel. You both seem very authentic and transparent. Thank you for great content..
Been using Eagle Creek forever & been across world w them. Fantastic quality, warranty & cust service. Price is only an issue in the absence of value!
great video. I picked Briggs and Riley for the flat surface, !! I did not know that.. thanks Again
Having worked at Hartsfield Airport in Atlanta, just be aware that your luggage gets treated brutally in the loading process. Bags are all dumped together and tossed around.
Not included on you list is Ricardo of Beverly Hills. I traveled over 150k by air before I retired and my Ricardo carryon lasted me over 12 years of business travel and now I use it for pleasure travel during retirement. I love the garment bag compartment!
I never see anyone comment or review the Ricardo carryon with 4 spinner wheels. I have probably had mine 9 or 10 years and have done quite a few international and USA trips. It still looks fairly new and has held up well.
always has excellent content
Love this review! Ty! I am happy to see the one you recommended is the one I own…and love!😊
I'd love a review of 22inch carry-ons up to 2kg, they're important for the European Airlines with an 8-10kg weight limit
The Briggs n Riley design, quality and lifetime warranty makes their luggage well worth the price.
I purchased my carry-on in this size from Costco in 2002. This thing is a durable beast! Over 20 years later, it is still my go-to travel suitcase.
The wheels still spin just fine (I silicon lube them occasionally), the zippers are still in tact and the inside is still just fine.
NOTHING has gone wrong with this carry-on and it has been probably over 250 flights. Kirkland Signature travel equipment rocks!
Am taking it to Germany next month for 2 weeks as my only suitcase. I am sure it will serve me well once more.
Excellent review!!! As an “occasional” traveler, I would pick the less expensive brands.
YES! To Briggs & Riley. Well built, well sized, incredible warranty I have had to use a few times. The only problem is if you want to use as carry on for flights with carry on weight limits, they run a little bit heavier than some other brands like Samsonite. NO! No! No! To Tumi! Nice bag, but warranty is NOT honored. Had one for just over a year and the handle broke. Tumi said their warranty didn’t cover the handle - Huh? Wife’s Tumi bag had a problem with the wheel 6 months later and again, no warranty coverage. They claim an all inclusive warranty but it is not honored. Threw the Tumi bags away.
The problem with roller carry-ons is the weight. 8 to 10 pounds of bag to carry 10-15 pounds of stuff. Lifting 25 pounds into the overhead might be a problem for some, especially with back issues. I have one that is about 6. The lighter the better. I usually check my bag. I use a medium sized checked Travel Pro.
Great video, thanks! What are your thoughts on trolley style carry-on bags, particularly as a way to haul a backpack or second bag via hook for low center of gravity?
I'm team soft-sided here, but amazingly, I've never owned soft-sided spinner luggage (yet lol), which I think is the best of both worlds. The only challenge I have with spinner wheels is that they eat up valuable packing space, which for a long-term carry-on traveler, is GOLD.
I think the Briggs & Riley looks terrific (and I have a friend with that bag and he adores it. He says the lifetime warranty justifies the price. The expansion capacity clinches it for me as being the most flexible of the bunch too.
I discovered that the Briggs and Riley spinner wheels use very little interior space compared to other bags. More importantly, the telescoping handle doesn't use any interior space on B&R bags! I love my B&R ZDX bags. It's my first lightweight but well-built bag.
@@DaveM-FFB Those are 2 very specific factors that have me drooling over Briggs & Riley!
The Hartman weighs almost 10 pounds which means you could only take 15 pounds of clothing and toiletries. I had a Tumi, but on a trip, the handle wouldn’t retract and stayed stuck out. That shouldn’t happen to an expensive suitcase. I only used it occasionally for about 3 years
My pick above all these is the Plume Cabin Size Spinner Lipault. At 4.8 pounds this bag has great spinner wheels and I've taken it on 4 international trips and many in the US. It has held up great, fits the international plane sizes for carryon, and is under $200. Why are you not reviewing it?
Because of your reviews, I bought the Monos carry on. It was crazy expensive, but worth every penny. Thanks!
Wow! Hope you enjoy. Thanks for watching
What about Brics? Saw them at the luggage store. Are they any good?
Great video, very informative review. I never thought of the other brands, but this video is very helpful for me to decide if ever I need to purchase a soft sided carry on.
Awesome breakdown, thank you!
I used to have Hartmann. They worked well. Took a lot of abuse on the outside but kept everything inside safe. Then after one trip, the inside one of the bags suddenly started smelling like spoiled milk. No explanation. No way to get the smell out. No help from Hartmann. I moved to Briggs and Riley and I love them. They have been all over Asia. Planes, boats (not ships, little speed boats), taxis trikes. There is scuffin on the wheels but even after nbine years thy still look near new. And the Briggs and Riley guarantee is the best.
Condor requires a depth of no more than 7.8" and ALL of the bags we've seen are 9-10". Can someone comment on this discrepancy? Thank you so much for the excellent video!
Hey hey! Thanks for this awesome video. I am leaving for some long, slow, indefinite travels through Europe soon, and some of the smaller airlines I am flying with (like Turkish Airlines) have a depth requirement of 7" max - not 9" or 10"! Do you know if this is common? I'm finding that most "carry on" bags are larger than that - so I'm pretty frustrated trying to find the perfect bag
I also wonder...if a soft shell bag is 9" deep - perhaps it could be squished down to 7"?
My "brocade" soft side from about the 90's meets international standards, has an
EXTERNAL handle setup like the expensive one and a J hook and, frankly, it's probably is as good as anything out there now. It was part of a set (I sold the bigger ones). Has 2 recessed ROLLERS that really don't take up interior space and little feet and stands strong. Not a clamshell, either. Great zippers which can take a lock. I'm not feeling that enticed by most of the stuff being sold now...esp.at the prices on some of these things. Also, some of what I've researched as "lightweight" are nearly or actually heavier than my approx. 8 lb bag! And a lot of them are actually bigger than the optimum 22 x 14 x 9 in at least one measurement.
The higher end TravelPros are probably worth it, but I bought one of their lower cost Maxlite bags and my extension handle got stuck extended when I was trying to check in in Athens. They took it and did something to force it down, but now it’s stuck down. Even if I get it fixed under warranty, it will be hard to trust it again.
I just bought the Briggs & Riley, and while I like the compression system, flat bottom, and ease of rolling, it's so dang heavy at over 10 lbs. I haven't gone on my trip yet, but I'm seriously worried this carry-on is going to throw out my back, esp since I'll be wheeling it around all day long. I'm thinking about returning it and getting a different roller that weighs under 6 lbs. I just haven't found any that seem very good so far...I only want soft-side, so if anyone has recommendations let me know. Worth mentioning, I already bought and returned the TravelPro because it doesn't steer very well, esp compared with the Briggs.
Soft side is top open. There are no hardside top open luggage that I know of. Delsey had one once, but I can't find it anymore. I have one 22" Delsey hard side top open. I fell on it and bent the handle tube. I can't find a new one anywhere.
Top open is great for sharing a hotel luggage shelf. Clamps shell opening means you can't leave it open if you travel with someone. Softies also have outside pockets.
Expensive bags make you a target..."rob that guy." 😂
Great content! I hope you will do a similar review for international carry on roller bags too
Great report! Thank you. Greetings from Munich, Germany
excellent video now for a international travel which would you recommend, thank you
WOW! Didn’t expect Ron to get roasted in a luggage review hahaha!
Hahaha #neverforget
I REALLY enjoyed listening to your presentation. Very informative 🙂👍🏻👍🏻🇺🇸 and… your speaking skills were very good.
What about eagle creek carry on?
I have the travelpro bag and it has a major design flaw. It expands outside the footprint of the wheels, kind of like a beer gut, which makes it unbalanced and prone to tipping over.
Very helpful but do you have any videos for best soft side checked baggage? Thanks!
My pet peeve with the cheaper carry ons is the flimsy telespopic handle. The 4 wheel spinners is the trend now, but you are losing a day’s worth of clothes that you can otherwise pack with those higher wheels.
No doubt about it: This is a beautifully done, informative, clearly explained and concise video. Bravo to you!
I think my TUMI was only 500, but then I bought it 8-9 years ago, and I travel HEAVYLY. as well I check it in anymore as I have a pelican equipment case I have to check anyway. I have had it in one time to repair the extendable handle about 3 years ago. no charge. don't know I would buy a 800+ one now though. even if my average would be under 100 a year depreciation.
Adding one more comment that I am looking at three different TravelPro items. The one you showed above really measures 23 inches not 22 inches. I’m undecided on either the platinum elite carry-on spinner versus the Crew classic compact carry-on, expandable spinner versus the Crew versapack Global carry on spinner. Hello, I am coming to this late, but I really need help figuring out which TravelPro carry-on luggage to buy for two upcoming international trips. Right now I’m looking at The Travelpro platinum elite carry-on, spinner versus the Crew classic compact carry-on expandable spinner versus the Crew versapack Global carry-on spinner. Like you I get concerned about that 1 inch and half inch extra size that goes over the 22 x 14 x 9 international requirement on the Platinum Elite, which has the most positive reviews. I know the Platinum Elite reviews say that it seems to work on international flights, but who wants to stress at the gate once there. I also want to know about the inside dimensions since I do pack a lot but I want to make this work for my 12 days. What to do! Which one of these three! I’d love to know what you ended up choosing. Thank you.
I”m too looking at the same TravelPro bags specifically for international flights. I am leaning towards the Crew Versapack Global spinner. Which one did you end up buying?
I really wish you would have talked about how tipsy these are when packed.
Very helpful!
Can you suggest the lightest carry in bag, please. Strong as well.
So wait. Is there another video where you compare the Monos to the Samsonite and the Briggs? Lol. I'm trying to get to the overall bracket winner. We are so close. Finish the job sir lol.
Thanks for the video! Very informative! Now my real question is after buying 7 hard shell luggage and all these carry ons - do you return the ones you don’t like? Or do you have a garage full of carry on luggage?😂
Does the power pack come with the suitcase? If not, which power pack do you recommend to purchase? Great info Nik!
Thanks
No unfortunately not. Here is a power bank I like amzn.to/3rltS0h (affiliate link)
profession and useful suggestion👍
I am 6'7" and need a bag with a longer handle that I can carry on. Are the handle lengths all the same on the bags you reviewed? I like the Briggs & Riley.
I have 6 different pieces of Tumi luggage in different sizes that I've acquired over the years. Tumi used to be buy-it-for-life bags but after they were acquired by Samsonite they've been turned into a luxury brand and now they're nowhere near as durable as they were just 10 years ago. The high price used to mean quality but now it's just for luxury. I will switch to another brand for my next luggage purchase.
apparently TUMI are no longer durable after it was acquired by Samsonite. The warranty is also only 5 years now.
Thanks!
En el momento en que vi el bolso kislux , supe que tenía que tenerlo.
Fair and balanced info! Super thanks for doing the work!
You left out Victorinox. For a long time they were known to be some of the best luggage made. Idk how many times I’ve heard people whisper “hey he’s got the Victorinox.” Or “excuse me sir, how do you like those Victorinox luggage?” True stories. They used to be on par with Briggs and Tumis. Maybe even better. Back in the day, they had lifetime warranties. The best in the segment. Idk how many times I’ve gotten new luggage replacements for free. I haven’t looked at their products lately so idk how they stack up.
Great to know! I will have to check them out!