You'd probably love the channel History of the Universe. As luck would have it they also uploaded a new video today, also on black holes! I'm actually listening to this before bed because HOTU is also an excellent sleep aid!
imagine, we are inside a black hole that is being simulated on someones computer, and that computer is on another universe that is inside another black hole, inside another simulation
Imagine that nothing is all there is. We are a quantum fluctuation that exists for an infinitesimally brief instant of time in the midst of the infinite nothingness of the nothing-verse.
I dont know how to say this politely so ill just say it. I avoid all Avi interviews now. He's lost objectivity and credibility in my eyes. Love the show, passing on the episode.
Not a fan of Dr Loeb, but listening anyway. At about 13:30 to 14:00 minute mark he suggests a micro black hole could absorb a proton and become charged and potentially form an atom with an electron. I think hes wrong. In my understanding of Physics and an electrical field propagates at the speed of light and will not escape the black hole. 50 years since I studied Physics, so I'll be interested if anyone can explain why this rebuttal is incorrect.
Well.. just because a force propogates at the speed of light doesn’t mean it behaves like light and is therefore affected by gravity. If this were the case gravity itself wouldn’t be able to escape the black hole, as gravity also propagates at the speed of light. An electrical field is the result of a fundamental force not matter. Your rebuttal is wrong for this reason but it also doesn’t mean Loeb is right. My instincts do seem to agree with him though. If a black hole is made of matter as we understand it, there’s no reason it shouldn’t be able to do exactly as he described. We just don’t have a whole lot of hard data on what a black hole is “made” of
@@JohnMichaelGodier well, I can listen (to most of) your guests for hours on end, so this sounds like a win/win! The UAP stuff... Well, I've said it before and I'll say it again, you are spot on when you said it is weird the military found aliens before scientists did. But in the age of camera phones and discord leaks, it's easier to keep your adversaries guess about what programs are real if you can yell "shiny squirrel!!" and lump it into *_aliens._* Could there be aliens here? Sure. But I _could_ also become president, technically speaking...
All Scientists and observations agree that the Universe was smaller that it is now. This would mean several things 1/ More Matter was in close proximity :- As such many larger Stars and Large Black Holes would have formed 2/ That matter would now be largely consumed as Black Holes :- Large Stars to direct Collapse and Neutron Stars Merging into Small Black Holes. This leads to a fundamental Question :- What is the Gravity Field of 2 Solar Mass Black Holes ? It is strongly Theorised that there are Millions of Such Black Holes in each Galaxy. Our investigations into our Milky Way Galaxy show that we discover Black Holes in fairly Close Proximity and in an abundance that Suggests there are indeed many more Black Holes than we Theorised. In Binary Star Systems where two or more 8+ Solar Mass Stars were formed will end in 2 Neutron stars and then a Black Hole. Large Stars have life Spans of 10s of Millions of Years not Billions which would suggest again that Black Holes are significantly more abundant. As such they would constitute a significant amount of the Matter in the Galaxies. This would increase the Matter Weight in the Galaxy and Eliminate for the need for much of the phantom Dark Matter. As Black Holes are Circa 10*64 MEV per KM3 this would also eliminate much of the need for phantom Dark Energy.
It's probably not inside a black hole as we know it, but probably is something else entirely (a universe) that shares a lot of properties of black holes. Outside our universe, reality is probably very different.
Knowing how much goes into making these episodes means it really is a treat when different science content creators upload videos on very similar topics. History of the Universe just uploaded a video on black holes as well. If you haven't seen the channel already, you really should check it out. If anything it might inspire a video of your own, especially with how indepth HOTU gets into the topics. The also do a HOT Earth and HO Mankind if you're interested in those. Or just need a good listening video on a long winter's night!
36:36 - Thank you, @JohnMichaelGodier ! In addition to being BEYOND implausible mathematically, thinking we are LIKLEY ALONE in the universe is perhaps the pinnacle of absurdly arrogant things one can believe.
@EndlessSpaghetti You have it backwards. I would suggest we're likely very average. That's the opposite of arrogant. Thinking we are so special, amd one of a kind among trillions of planets... as I said, arrogant and statistically incoherent.
@EndlessSpaghetti If we buy a lottery ticket, and I suggest it's very unlikely to win, despite have no knowledge of the winning number, is that arrogant?
This should be a fun listen. My speculative theory is that maybe black holes have an upper size limit where they explode. Our universe would be part of a larger parent universe where enough matter clumped together to cause an explosion. It would explain the singularity at the beginning and the expansion of the universe. And since we already speculate the universe is much larger than it appears, we cant really know what this total mass might be. And im not talking about the big bounce or big crunch cyclic theories. Just a localized event of a much larger universe.
I suspect that dark matter is actually the artifact of the gravity of the universe outside of the universe we are trapped in. Turtles all of the way down.
Could the universe oscillate between a black hole and a white hole and our universe just happens to be expanding its white hole stage? Another thing I'm curious about is what holds space together and is space stretching out or is new space being created one planck unit at a time? I regret not focusing on mathematics in school. I would love to be able to communicate more precisely with these amazing people.
Thanks JMG. I feel like Dr. Loeb is kind of starting to repeat himself lately. Like the same spiel for any question or topic. Maybe that’s just the prof in him, and I do appreciate him making astronomy accessible, as well as his UAP work.
I think he took a lot of heat for his interstellar meteorite mission. Especially after he prematurely labeled some finds as possible ET tech, despite knowing the burden of proof a claim like that requires. He very well could have found fragments of a meteor. But it was too early to claim it was interstellar, let alone of possible alien origins. And he should have known that but I think he was feeling the pressure as mission costs were setting in and a repeat mission (read, I need to find funding, again...) was looking like it will be needed.
@@Benson_aka_devils_advocate_88 Absolutely. I hate it when scientists take heat for making suggestions, asking questions, and actually researching something others won't touch. But when you make baseless claims, you deserve that heat. There's a fine line between science and pseudoscience sometimes and he tiptoed along it if not crossing it completely.
@@Kelnx exactly. It's one thing to ask the questions others won't touch, and the drama that comes with it. It's entirely different when you make extraordinary claims without ensuring the extraordinary burden of proof is reached first.
I think a few things happened. So he did seem to be on solid ground in a way on the interstellar origin of IM1, he did have the limited version of the pentagon data set that they confirmed. However that was called into question because no one except the pentagon could examine the full data and we don't know the background or credentials of the people in the DoD that confirmed it to my knowledge. That's a problem. All they could do is issue a statement that yeah, Loeb seems to be right, it appears to have come in at a speed consistent only with an interstellar rock not gravitationally bound to the sun. Still I think that might have squeaked through in a standard scientific paper, I've seen worse. He was also on solid ground methodologically in the recovery of the spherules because he wasn't the first to do it. That was Marc Fries and the NOAA at the Olympic National Marine Sanctuary, so recovering meteoritic material from the ocean floor magnetically was been there done that stuff by the time of Loeb's expedition. Whether it was ET tech however is problematic, that's a step too far, but I think he actually only speculated that that was possible because his actual paper, which has a ton of coauthors, actually concludes them to be natural as the most likely explanation. So I'm not sure he actually claimed it, rather just speculated on it because it is physically possible for a piece of alien technology to show up in a star system and hit a planet. Especially if its intentional, remember we've littered Mars with flying saucers. -- quite literally -- with the full intent that they would crash in the form of the heat shields and back shells of our rovers and landers. It's not that out there to expect the same of aliens. I think the actual problem was that Avi was so visible in the various media, which caught the attention of detractors that were also highly visible with positions writing science articles for major publications, Xwitter and high profile youtube channels. The problem is that very few of those folks actually looked up the NOAA recovery, and just assumed that Avi recovering meteoritic material wasn't possible and had never been done before. That was weird, because you can see that isn't true with a 30 second google search. I think this happened because he had suggested that seeing alien technology in the solar system should not be surprising, and it shouldn't, Enrico Fermi said the same thing. It's actually weird that we don't see it in a sense. But there is this bias that's formed up with some in the scientific community that extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. Sorry Dr. Sagan, but that isn't, and hasn't ever been true. You just need plain, good old evidence, extraordinary is not required because there is no such thing as extraordinary evidence. I've never seen extraordinary evidence for anything, just regular flat out evidence. To require extraordinary evidence, whatever that may be, introduces a bias. The other issue is the UFO phenomenon issue which colors any idea of aliens because of all the fluff around that. Invariably jokes of being given a complete physical by an alien proctologist come into play and the like. It even effects radio SETI. The reality is that you can talk about aliens as long as you want, so long as they are not in the inner solar system. I spent years speculating about von Neumann, Benford and Bracewell probes on my original channel and still do, and took no heat. The moment I speculate about the exact same things inside the orbit of Mars however, I get heat, even though there is no functional difference between a von Neumann probe somewhere out in the outer solar system and one in the earth's atmosphere, the concept is the same. Loeb told me years ago he was going to throw himself on the barbed wire to knock that bias down, and that's what he did, so others could cross the battlefield. But I think Dr. Sagan would have been better served if he had said that extraordinary claims require GOOD evidence, or a preponderance of evidence. And that we do not have for IM1 being of alien technological origin, nor do we have that for anything else we've yet seen.
@@JohnMichaelGodier Thanks for your perspective on it. And for what it's worth I agree that the statement "extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence" never quite set right with me. Who determines what is "extraordinary"? Evidence is evidence, observations are observations, and any conclusions are always a work in progress based on the best available data.
Saying there is definitely no other life in the universe is as stupid as saying that there definitely is. We don't know, and we need evidence before making assumptions.
Honestly discuntions like this wholly depends on whether or not black holes are anything more then the universe's best incorator... Pretty much Black holes have so much gravity they crush the stuff they eat into a infinatly single point seemly infinity gnrating power and gravity as long as stuff enters them which could even be light... Ofcorse not all black holes lead to nowhere but given the fact we never have seen a white hole which is suposly our end of another universe Black hole... It is very unlikely Balck holes are thesholds and very likely they are a incrator or na paper shreader next to someone at a deck on a trash bin that can just power they entire office with anything they sread with it including the light their light bulbs produce... Not that this is the solution to free energy as that stuff you can feed black hole with to keep it alive. Is best used to keep stars alive and make stuff and the light you can feed a black hole with likly is unable to keep it alive unless it was very small and barely a desk toy. Not saying that you can't find a black hole that is connected to another universe with a white hole... It just you would need to entire and return data from inside a black hole to find out. And even then there is no garrtee any of the black holes in our known universe is a thesehold so it would be a wild goose chance... Although you can use black holes to do other things like we do today maybe breach outside of the universe... But until we see a white hole or enter one that is a threshold it's best to awesome that black holes are just really big incnrators then anything else.
Tomorrow is a long and important day and i have to get enough sleep, but i checked yt and saw a new JMG video with dr. Avi Loeb, i will curse myself tomorrow.
This is great as it provides a source for sufficient matter to be ingested into black holes to account for the cooling of the universe as the cosmic voids transform matter into space time. The explanation of dark matter as tiny black holes thus provides a potentially sufficient source of incremental space time to account for a static universe. Matter is devoured by black holes then expelled in the form of space time in the cosmic voids. Then after extreme time, Hawking radiation fills the universe with uniform matter until it reaches a flashpoint, or big bang. No need for inflation. Thanks Avi.
Nice talk. Do neutrinos have a preferred QCD creation type. Or in degeneracy do neutrinos migrate to a preferred color charge. Hawking evaporation to gravitational waves/wobble. Probability and predictability and particle production from quantum foam and gravitational waves. Large particle collider meets large gravitational wave detection. A black hole ramping up brightness as it dies. Gives a lower limit on white holes. The universe gives a natural cutoff regime or limit. The universe as degenerate matter or Planckian 12.5 light year diamiter with error bars. 17:13 Quantum gives a possibility of pair universe production or ring deposit universes and ours would just be one spike of many in a ring or 4 point Einstein star type. The grid type only being ASI. Cryptographic tagging or such of each universe. 19:20 neutrinos falling in and condensing. Can you construct a unique superfluid boojum and alice ring? XD 19:20 What type of unique state is needed to destroy a 12.5 light year diamiter black hole. Gravitational wave from the center out. Cherenkov radiation and particle production and work done. Particle production and polarization. 19:20 photon pressure vs ability to dump stuff in. 19:20 Imbalances that come out in the valley of stability for antimatter most likely. Neutrinos may have had some play. 3 generations and one sided/handed. Thank you for sharing. Keep up the good work.
@@theoldman5896 Relativity perfectly predicted gravitational lensing, which was later observed. If you have a better theory, make some predictions and make some observations. You know, science?
@@ModernEphemera "you know, science?" I love how viscerally angry you got when I even vaguely hinted that Reletivity might be a "sacred cow," thus 100% proving my point.
@@dougr8646 "sacred cow" doesn't mean "it's wrong," silly-pants. It means it's an unreasonably "no-go" topic of non-discussion. (tldr; "being true" and being a "sacred cow" are not mutually exclusive qualities)
As Ukrainian I don’t think that abandoning military spending for one year is a good idea, especially since there are many countries that ready to challenge World order. I know that is not a topic of discussion but anyway just saying.
Sometimes I wonder how quickly a black hole would form if a fart was compact enough. What would the parameters be in order to fart a gravity well? I’m talking boisterous stuff
Why can’t light, traveling at the speed of light outside of our dimension because time for that light would not exist, be dark matter??? Either I am a super genius or it’s completely obvious but no one can answer my question yet… please someone tell me why dark matter cannot be light.
This episode wasn't as good as expected. Loeb sounded very confused, mixing all sorts of theories and hypothetical examples trying to make a point; but in fact he only succeeds to confuse listeners (he lost me after listening to about 15 minutes of his ramblings) My advice would be: back to the drawing board professor and, try to present a more rational, consistent explanation next time
I'm just an avid science learner so forgive me but has anyone ever hypothesized that suns could be white holes? So embarrassing to as this 🤦♂️ should just ask gpt
@@mattanderson111 i don't know why UA-cam decided to show me this comment but maybe just don't listen to the episode of you don't like the content. No need to be a jerk about it. Hope you get better bud
listening to this being stoned is weird 😂, love this channel
You'd probably love the channel History of the Universe. As luck would have it they also uploaded a new video today, also on black holes! I'm actually listening to this before bed because HOTU is also an excellent sleep aid!
Cool story
I play these to get to sleep and have weird dreams...
I am watching it on x2 to avoid falling asleep. Lol
I don't get stoned, but your comment has made me hungry.
Event Horizon with Avi Loeb and History of the Universe about black holes on the same day! Amazing.
Ditto 😊
Event Horizon with Avi Loeb? Never clicked on a video so fast.
There have been at least 5 with avi, you must be new
You like men with oversized egos who do nothing but speculate?
Yeah, clicking on this duo is as certain as falling into a black hole once past the event horizon lol
Me too, but you wanted to be first commenter 😅 j/k
You’re being sarcastic right?
Thank god he isnt talking about the damn aliens again
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💀💀😂😂😂
@@xbox70333 dude lived in the shadow of stephen hawking for decades. He doesn't realize he was always standing on his own.
imagine, we are inside a black hole that is being simulated on someones computer, and that computer is on another universe that is inside another black hole, inside another simulation
Imagine that nothing is all there is. We are a quantum fluctuation that exists for an infinitesimally brief instant of time in the midst of the infinite nothingness of the nothing-verse.
Imagine dragon deez
the objective still remains the same, become neo and break the matrix lol
I dont know how to say this politely so ill just say it. I avoid all Avi interviews now. He's lost objectivity and credibility in my eyes.
Love the show, passing on the episode.
Hello from Australia
Not a fan of Dr Loeb, but listening anyway. At about 13:30 to 14:00 minute mark he suggests a micro black hole could absorb a proton and become charged and potentially form an atom with an electron. I think hes wrong. In my understanding of Physics and an electrical field propagates at the speed of light and will not escape the black hole.
50 years since I studied Physics, so I'll be interested if anyone can explain why this rebuttal is incorrect.
Well.. just because a force propogates at the speed of light doesn’t mean it behaves like light and is therefore affected by gravity. If this were the case gravity itself wouldn’t be able to escape the black hole, as gravity also propagates at the speed of light. An electrical field is the result of a fundamental force not matter. Your rebuttal is wrong for this reason but it also doesn’t mean Loeb is right. My instincts do seem to agree with him though. If a black hole is made of matter as we understand it, there’s no reason it shouldn’t be able to do exactly as he described. We just don’t have a whole lot of hard data on what a black hole is “made” of
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Great episode, I am interested in all these topics and I really like Avi and enjoy hearing what he has to say!
Another 'home run' episode. Yay ! Professor Loeb is back !.
Event Horizon is a decent channel but Avi Loeb doesn't have the best reputation, curious to see how this goes
Oh, the return of one of my favorite guests! Thank you! Hope to hear news about the fishing expedition for the interstellar meteorite ☄
This one is a two part episode as we spoke for an hour and half. We do get into that in next week's episode.
@@JohnMichaelGodier Awesome!
Same. Can't wait until the update.
Also there are Galileo Project updates for next week as well. I can literally talk to Avi for hours, so I made sure to get it all in.
@@JohnMichaelGodier well, I can listen (to most of) your guests for hours on end, so this sounds like a win/win!
The UAP stuff... Well, I've said it before and I'll say it again, you are spot on when you said it is weird the military found aliens before scientists did. But in the age of camera phones and discord leaks, it's easier to keep your adversaries guess about what programs are real if you can yell "shiny squirrel!!" and lump it into *_aliens._*
Could there be aliens here? Sure. But I _could_ also become president, technically speaking...
Your videos make my life a little better every time there is a new upload; I just wanted to thank you for that.
All Scientists and observations agree that the Universe was smaller that it is now. This would mean several things 1/ More Matter was in close proximity :- As such many larger Stars and Large Black Holes would have formed 2/ That matter would now be largely consumed as Black Holes :- Large Stars to direct Collapse and Neutron Stars Merging into Small Black Holes.
This leads to a fundamental Question :- What is the Gravity Field of 2 Solar Mass Black Holes ? It is strongly Theorised that there are Millions of Such Black Holes in each Galaxy. Our investigations into our Milky Way Galaxy show that we discover Black Holes in fairly Close Proximity and in an abundance that Suggests there are indeed many more Black Holes than we Theorised. In Binary Star Systems where two or more 8+ Solar Mass Stars were formed will end in 2 Neutron stars and then a Black Hole. Large Stars have life Spans of 10s of Millions of Years not Billions which would suggest again that Black Holes are significantly more abundant. As such they would constitute a significant amount of the Matter in the Galaxies. This would increase the Matter Weight in the Galaxy and Eliminate for the need for much of the phantom Dark Matter. As Black Holes are Circa 10*64 MEV per KM3 this would also eliminate much of the need for phantom Dark Energy.
"Great minds think alike." and so humble too :)
Small minds beg to differ.."
Small minds beg to differ...
@@deltalima6703 trying to disprove your collegues is good science.
Hello from Poland 🇵🇱🙂
Hello Natalia!
Jak Tam ?
It's probably not inside a black hole as we know it, but probably is something else entirely (a universe) that shares a lot of properties of black holes. Outside our universe, reality is probably very different.
Avi Loeb: prioritizes bold claims to satisfy his ego.
You live up to your name.
I love this theory, my 7 year old son and I were only just talking about this the other night, whilst out stargazing in Scotland.
Knowing how much goes into making these episodes means it really is a treat when different science content creators upload videos on very similar topics.
History of the Universe just uploaded a video on black holes as well. If you haven't seen the channel already, you really should check it out. If anything it might inspire a video of your own, especially with how indepth HOTU gets into the topics. The also do a HOT Earth and HO Mankind if you're interested in those. Or just need a good listening video on a long winter's night!
Every time i see a topic I'm interrested in i get so excited until i see it's avi loeb again. I'm sorry.
Avi Loeb is an expensive date, a trillion dollars lol
36:36 - Thank you, @JohnMichaelGodier !
In addition to being BEYOND implausible mathematically, thinking we are LIKLEY ALONE in the universe is perhaps the pinnacle of absurdly arrogant things one can believe.
@@youaremoppedSome would argue that it's arrogant to assume there is other life out there when we have till now no evidence to support that idea.
@EndlessSpaghetti You have it backwards. I would suggest we're likely very average. That's the opposite of arrogant. Thinking we are so special, amd one of a kind among trillions of planets... as I said, arrogant and statistically incoherent.
@EndlessSpaghetti If we buy a lottery ticket, and I suggest it's very unlikely to win, despite have no knowledge of the winning number, is that arrogant?
*pinnacle
Welcome back, Ave Loeb!
I just know this is gonna be a good one
I don’t know enough to say
Avi's analogies are very entertaining...I'm pretty sure he's self-aware of this.🙂
So glad to see Avi Loeb back. Thank-you Mr Godier. !!
This should be a fun listen.
My speculative theory is that maybe black holes have an upper size limit where they explode. Our universe would be part of a larger parent universe where enough matter clumped together to cause an explosion. It would explain the singularity at the beginning and the expansion of the universe. And since we already speculate the universe is much larger than it appears, we cant really know what this total mass might be. And im not talking about the big bounce or big crunch cyclic theories. Just a localized event of a much larger universe.
I always click on event horizon as soon as I see it on my notifications.
We do not relay on magic or creation.
It fills devil's arguments.
I suspect that dark matter is actually the artifact of the gravity of the universe outside of the universe we are trapped in. Turtles all of the way down.
I’ve been spoilt tonight, my favourite podcast maker and my favourite intellectual mind probably the greatest mind of our time. Thank you to you both
Always keen to hear from Avi even though I don’t always agree it’s always good to stretch your mind with a new perspective. 👍🏻
Could the universe oscillate between a black hole and a white hole and our universe just happens to be expanding its white hole stage?
Another thing I'm curious about is what holds space together and is space stretching out or is new space being created one planck unit at a time?
I regret not focusing on mathematics in school. I would love to be able to communicate more precisely with these amazing people.
It cannot be inside a blackhole, as there are parts of spacetime leaving the observable universe on a steady basis.
We have no idea.
End.
Thanks JMG. I feel like Dr. Loeb is kind of starting to repeat himself lately. Like the same spiel for any question or topic. Maybe that’s just the prof in him, and I do appreciate him making astronomy accessible, as well as his UAP work.
Everything in this video is new work and papers.
No , they can not and speculation like this ... anyways.
All avi needs is the entire US Defense budget for 1 year. As he said, it's not really that much money😂..
Well, it is frankly a better use of such money.
How do you like this paradox: there is no center of the Universe, and we are the center of the universe.
My theory is that the Universe is that scientist in the white lab coat.
And then he had to go and quote Weinberg
Nice to see Avi back, he seems to have been quiet recently.
I think he took a lot of heat for his interstellar meteorite mission. Especially after he prematurely labeled some finds as possible ET tech, despite knowing the burden of proof a claim like that requires.
He very well could have found fragments of a meteor. But it was too early to claim it was interstellar, let alone of possible alien origins. And he should have known that but I think he was feeling the pressure as mission costs were setting in and a repeat mission (read, I need to find funding, again...) was looking like it will be needed.
@@Benson_aka_devils_advocate_88 Absolutely. I hate it when scientists take heat for making suggestions, asking questions, and actually researching something others won't touch. But when you make baseless claims, you deserve that heat. There's a fine line between science and pseudoscience sometimes and he tiptoed along it if not crossing it completely.
@@Kelnx exactly. It's one thing to ask the questions others won't touch, and the drama that comes with it. It's entirely different when you make extraordinary claims without ensuring the extraordinary burden of proof is reached first.
I think a few things happened. So he did seem to be on solid ground in a way on the interstellar origin of IM1, he did have the limited version of the pentagon data set that they confirmed. However that was called into question because no one except the pentagon could examine the full data and we don't know the background or credentials of the people in the DoD that confirmed it to my knowledge. That's a problem. All they could do is issue a statement that yeah, Loeb seems to be right, it appears to have come in at a speed consistent only with an interstellar rock not gravitationally bound to the sun. Still I think that might have squeaked through in a standard scientific paper, I've seen worse. He was also on solid ground methodologically in the recovery of the spherules because he wasn't the first to do it. That was Marc Fries and the NOAA at the Olympic National Marine Sanctuary, so recovering meteoritic material from the ocean floor magnetically was been there done that stuff by the time of Loeb's expedition. Whether it was ET tech however is problematic, that's a step too far, but I think he actually only speculated that that was possible because his actual paper, which has a ton of coauthors, actually concludes them to be natural as the most likely explanation. So I'm not sure he actually claimed it, rather just speculated on it because it is physically possible for a piece of alien technology to show up in a star system and hit a planet. Especially if its intentional, remember we've littered Mars with flying saucers. -- quite literally -- with the full intent that they would crash in the form of the heat shields and back shells of our rovers and landers. It's not that out there to expect the same of aliens.
I think the actual problem was that Avi was so visible in the various media, which caught the attention of detractors that were also highly visible with positions writing science articles for major publications, Xwitter and high profile youtube channels. The problem is that very few of those folks actually looked up the NOAA recovery, and just assumed that Avi recovering meteoritic material wasn't possible and had never been done before. That was weird, because you can see that isn't true with a 30 second google search. I think this happened because he had suggested that seeing alien technology in the solar system should not be surprising, and it shouldn't, Enrico Fermi said the same thing. It's actually weird that we don't see it in a sense. But there is this bias that's formed up with some in the scientific community that extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. Sorry Dr. Sagan, but that isn't, and hasn't ever been true. You just need plain, good old evidence, extraordinary is not required because there is no such thing as extraordinary evidence. I've never seen extraordinary evidence for anything, just regular flat out evidence. To require extraordinary evidence, whatever that may be, introduces a bias. The other issue is the UFO phenomenon issue which colors any idea of aliens because of all the fluff around that. Invariably jokes of being given a complete physical by an alien proctologist come into play and the like. It even effects radio SETI.
The reality is that you can talk about aliens as long as you want, so long as they are not in the inner solar system. I spent years speculating about von Neumann, Benford and Bracewell probes on my original channel and still do, and took no heat. The moment I speculate about the exact same things inside the orbit of Mars however, I get heat, even though there is no functional difference between a von Neumann probe somewhere out in the outer solar system and one in the earth's atmosphere, the concept is the same. Loeb told me years ago he was going to throw himself on the barbed wire to knock that bias down, and that's what he did, so others could cross the battlefield. But I think Dr. Sagan would have been better served if he had said that extraordinary claims require GOOD evidence, or a preponderance of evidence. And that we do not have for IM1 being of alien technological origin, nor do we have that for anything else we've yet seen.
@@JohnMichaelGodier Thanks for your perspective on it. And for what it's worth I agree that the statement "extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence" never quite set right with me. Who determines what is "extraordinary"?
Evidence is evidence, observations are observations, and any conclusions are always a work in progress based on the best available data.
🤦🏻♂️ here we go let’s listen to Mr. Loeb pontificate on his greatness. I swear this guy’s ego has a gravitational field of its own.
Agreed.
Yo.. what if the big bang was the Collapse of a massive star or a higher realm being divided.
Saying there is definitely no other life in the universe is as stupid as saying that there definitely is. We don't know, and we need evidence before making assumptions.
I agree. Personally, I think there is abundant life simply because the universe is so immense with billions and billions of planets.
Honestly discuntions like this wholly depends on whether or not black holes are anything more then the universe's best incorator... Pretty much Black holes have so much gravity they crush the stuff they eat into a infinatly single point seemly infinity gnrating power and gravity as long as stuff enters them which could even be light... Ofcorse not all black holes lead to nowhere but given the fact we never have seen a white hole which is suposly our end of another universe Black hole... It is very unlikely Balck holes are thesholds and very likely they are a incrator or na paper shreader next to someone at a deck on a trash bin that can just power they entire office with anything they sread with it including the light their light bulbs produce... Not that this is the solution to free energy as that stuff you can feed black hole with to keep it alive. Is best used to keep stars alive and make stuff and the light you can feed a black hole with likly is unable to keep it alive unless it was very small and barely a desk toy. Not saying that you can't find a black hole that is connected to another universe with a white hole... It just you would need to entire and return data from inside a black hole to find out. And even then there is no garrtee any of the black holes in our known universe is a thesehold so it would be a wild goose chance... Although you can use black holes to do other things like we do today maybe breach outside of the universe... But until we see a white hole or enter one that is a threshold it's best to awesome that black holes are just really big incnrators then anything else.
Hey JMG, I will look for that nasa article if I get a chance to stop by my alma mater.
Tomorrow is a long and important day and i have to get enough sleep, but i checked yt and saw a new JMG video with dr. Avi Loeb, i will curse myself tomorrow.
Can black holes produce electrical fields?
Always interesting with Avi 👍
This is great as it provides a source for sufficient matter to be ingested into black holes to account for the cooling of the universe as the cosmic voids transform matter into space time. The explanation of dark matter as tiny black holes thus provides a potentially sufficient source of incremental space time to account for a static universe. Matter is devoured by black holes then expelled in the form of space time in the cosmic voids. Then after extreme time, Hawking radiation fills the universe with uniform matter until it reaches a flashpoint, or big bang. No need for inflation. Thanks Avi.
Nice talk. Do neutrinos have a preferred QCD creation type. Or in degeneracy do neutrinos migrate to a preferred color charge. Hawking evaporation to gravitational waves/wobble. Probability and predictability and particle production from quantum foam and gravitational waves. Large particle collider meets large gravitational wave detection. A black hole ramping up brightness as it dies. Gives a lower limit on white holes. The universe gives a natural cutoff regime or limit. The universe as degenerate matter or Planckian 12.5 light year diamiter with error bars. 17:13 Quantum gives a possibility of pair universe production or ring deposit universes and ours would just be one spike of many in a ring or 4 point Einstein star type. The grid type only being ASI. Cryptographic tagging or such of each universe. 19:20 neutrinos falling in and condensing. Can you construct a unique superfluid boojum and alice ring? XD
19:20 What type of unique state is needed to destroy a 12.5 light year diamiter black hole. Gravitational wave from the center out. Cherenkov radiation and particle production and work done. Particle production and polarization. 19:20 photon pressure vs ability to dump stuff in. 19:20 Imbalances that come out in the valley of stability for antimatter most likely. Neutrinos may have had some play. 3 generations and one sided/handed.
Thank you for sharing. Keep up the good work.
can you have nested singularities?
I should be asleep…..you got me again JMG…..i will sleep when im dark matter
It never ends with the dark matter unicorns.
Anything to avoid harming the relativistic sacred cow.
@@theoldman5896 Relativity perfectly predicted gravitational lensing, which was later observed. If you have a better theory, make some predictions and make some observations. You know, science?
@@ModernEphemera "you know, science?"
I love how viscerally angry you got when I even vaguely hinted that Reletivity might be a "sacred cow," thus 100% proving my point.
It's not a sacred cow, it's just extremely well tested and verified lol.
@@dougr8646 "sacred cow" doesn't mean "it's wrong," silly-pants. It means it's an unreasonably "no-go" topic of non-discussion. (tldr; "being true" and being a "sacred cow" are not mutually exclusive qualities)
As Ukrainian I don’t think that abandoning military spending for one year is a good idea, especially since there are many countries that ready to challenge World order. I know that is not a topic of discussion but anyway just saying.
Personally, i subscribe to the universe is in a black hole hypothesis
Sometimes I wonder how quickly a black hole would form if a fart was compact enough. What would the parameters be in order to fart a gravity well? I’m talking boisterous stuff
Oh yeah good video
Why can’t light, traveling at the speed of light outside of our dimension because time for that light would not exist, be dark matter??? Either I am a super genius or it’s completely obvious but no one can answer my question yet… please someone tell me why dark matter cannot be light.
Light, or the photon has no mass hence no matter whatever.
Very Likely
Oh, Avi, I've missed you 🥰.. now, go away!! 🛸
I called this years ago! On my channel
This episode wasn't as good as expected. Loeb sounded very confused, mixing all sorts of theories and hypothetical examples trying to make a point; but in fact he only succeeds to confuse listeners (he lost me after listening to about 15 minutes of his ramblings)
My advice would be: back to the drawing board professor and, try to present a more rational, consistent explanation next time
Always good to see avi back on
When scoentists stop doing actual reasearch and writing tech papers, and instead start doing talk shows & writing speculative novels...
So where is the singularity the great a🚜 then or are the maths wrong 😂 great show as always cheers.
I am pretty sure the city I live in is ether in a black hole or a alternate reality. It's called Pittsburgh Pennsylvania.🤣🤣🤣🤣😂😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
No Avi, thid is MOND
MOND has many issues. Nothing is concrete yet.
Love it when Lobe is on! He's like a modern Einstein! Haven't watched all of it yet obviously given this just came out but absolutely loving it!
I love Avi Loeb!!!
I'm just an avid science learner so forgive me but has anyone ever hypothesized that suns could be white holes? So embarrassing to as this 🤦♂️ should just ask gpt
No, because that is obviously not the case. Good luck with your learning.
only clicked on the video to comment that I despise all the avi leob content.
@@mattanderson111 i don't know why UA-cam decided to show me this comment but maybe just don't listen to the episode of you don't like the content. No need to be a jerk about it. Hope you get better bud
Try not to cut youself on those edges!
@mattanderson11 fair enough. What do you dislike about him?
I'll never watch any of your videos with that crank, Avi Loeb.
What makes you comfortable calling him that?
@@EventHorizonShow What makes you so blind?
Did you change the title ???
Yes
@EventHorizonShow I thought I was going crazy for a moment... or that I crossed timelines.
@AviLoeb is soooo coool. Thanks, bro! schalom!
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Sabine Hossenfeller just declared dark mater dead, replaced by MOND.
Did she publish a paper?
@ Todays video from her.
@@ggtgp So no, lol.
MOND is garbage. Sabine would be wise to accept that fact.
@@deltalima6703 She’s just grifting on “‘academics’ HATE this” boomer bait these days. Avi kinda does a little bit too but he’s nowhere near as bad
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