This podcast is a real grower. I especially enjoy how you guys bring life to the minor characters in the story as they experience the events that unfold around them.
Tom looks like the very spectre of the executioner with his face half lit by the supposed sunshine creeping into this horrific episode. (See 18.02 time stamp)
Fun fact: In June 39, on his way down to the riviera, Christopher Lee stopped briefly in Paris, where he stayed with the journalist Webb Miller and witnessed the last public execution performed in France aha
I was surprised that Tom pushed aside Dominic's point that whereas traditional executions emphasized the individuality of the condemned, the guillotine, by its mechanistic efficiency, had the effect of erasing that individuality. Designed to be humane, the guillotine dehumanized, making it easier to kill without guilt.
Charles Dickens witnessed a guillotining in Italy. The account of this is in his book ‘Pictures from Italy’. He was shocked by the casual and perfunctory nature of the procedure. The apparently apathetic crowd wandered away afterwards leaving the decapitated corpse on the machine. Dickens and a friend went up and examined the body. He was struck by the closeness of the cut - no part of the neck remained…
The History of the executioner dynasty is wild! I never would have imagined that was a thing that happened. It adds so much context to the executions in history, from Joan of arc, through The Terror, to (apparently) two weeks before the Star wars premiere
It is also reckoned that in an age when upper classes were beheaded and lower classes were hanged, the ubiquitous guillotine symbolised - or made manifest - the ‘égalité’ of the revolutionary motto!
You say there'd never been anything like it before regarding the production line of slaughter. Maybe not in the French context, but it seems to me that in terms of that public spectacle there had perhaps been a premonition a hemisphere away. The line of victims waiting in increasing terror for their their turn on the public platform, mounting the steps slippery with blood of those who have gone before, receiving their end and then the corpse discarded from the death pedestal and the next poor sod brought on. It's all a bit Tenochtitlan isn't it!
Great fact! I love when you google this, they admit that it was an early guillotine, but still insist it was france that invented it at a later date. Do your own research and don't rely on google and AI's
Excellent episode, very good point on the executioners. You might want to try, for fun, the “Commissaire Le Floch” mysteries, you will love the courtly French being used. Samson appears regularly in a sort of Coroner’s help capacity.
Jean-Francois Parot, their author, was a diplomat with a deep rounding in history. His Sanson, after the horrible end of Damiens, resolved to study anatomy so he could bring his charges to quicker and more humane ends. He had plenty of bodies to study--and so ended up with an unrivalled knowledge of violent death--or so the novels say.
Rudolph Höß, the commandant of Auschwitz, had a similar epiphany regarding mass executions. He had hated the effect on his men that came after executing people by firing squad. I can’t remember his exact words; but after discovering cyanide was quick and efficient, he said something like “it makes it far-easier to sleep at night.”
Police Commissioner Charles Dreyfus used to have a miniature guillotine on his desk to cut his cigars. On one occasion, he was so upset and distracted by the antics of Inspector Clouseau, he managed to cut his own finger off.
Lol, oh no. Mixing Clouseau with reality again. I don't even want to admit how many years I spent thinking that the famous Dreyfuss Affair in French politics had something to do with the Pink Panther.
We had a guest speaker at Oxford University in the Middle Eastern Department that worked for an Oil Company. He spoke how he visited Baghdad in the 1950’s only to see burlap bags covering poles around the Presidential Palace. He thought they were protecting shrubs only to be told because of his presence they were covering up human heads that were placed on the pikes!😮
Friends thank you for all the time reading you've put in to be able to present this great series. I'm here like an addict scratching for each episode. 😂😂
Two (apocryphal?) euphemisms of the time: "the national razor'' "to shake the hot hand" And the witness of Marie Antoinette's execution who claimed he was so close he could hear "the whisper of the axe".
For those who may be interested in a Caribbean counterpart to Dickens' description of the guillotine, I recommend to read the work of the giant of Cuban literature Alejo Carpentier, who described so well the impact of the revolution in the Caribbean in his masterpiece "Explosion in a Cathedral".
Oh no....The Spoon....The Spoon! 😂 Brilliant episode as usual. Terrible topic but presented so well I think I need to buy yet another book recommended here. I'm completely addicted to these podcasts - thank you!
Great episode - I wonder if Sanson removed Robespierre's bandage before the execution to reminisce about the good old days when he could torture people. PS Mass executions do not necessarily require a guillotine, there are traces of mass executions from the Neolithic era - and during the French Revolution, Fouche and Collot shot at convicts with grapeshot, and Carrier drowned people in Nantes. When Robespierre found out about these atrocities, he immediately recalled them from their missions and they feared the guillotine, which is why they were the ringleaders of the 9 Thermidor."
34:50 - 35:20 ... uh, your French accent sounds precisely like the French taunting knight in the castle in Monty Python and the Holy Grail. Lol "your mother was a hamster and your father smelled of elderberries".
@jamesrogers5277 He had an Amazing life. Aside from playing Saurumon The White, he also had a heavy metal band. I found that incredible. That he would head bang at his age. He never let being old get him down. He was just cool.
It seems that the transition to impersonal slaughter represents an economic shift from the feudal to the industrial. The old systems are not built to handle volume and depend on personality; the new way is about process with individual personality drained away.
Here in Vietnam the French had a portable guillotine that was like a box trailer pulled by a truck and would travel around to provincial prisons. The idear was to set up before lunch and then decide whether to dispatch before lunch or after eating and drinking.
There is a movie of the last public execution in France on UA-cam. It is a very quick procedure - over in a few seconds! In early 1900s an early movie maker applied to be given a spot near the execution platform to film it. However, his request was denied, so he concealed the camera and filmed it from a less favourable angle. The scandel, when the film was shown, was such that future executions were done behind closed days. Of course these sensibilities went by the board on 1944/45.
Interesting point regarding the last public execution in Paris using the Guillotine in 1939. Watching from an apartment window across the street from the "event" was the 17 year old Christopher Lee of Dracula , Hammer films fame.
The last line of 'The Marseillaise' is pretty strong: 'Qu'un sang impur abreuve nos sillons.'- 'Let their [aristocrats] foul blood drench our furrows.'
Mais non, le sang impur n'est pas celui des aristocrates mais celui du peuple non noble ... Les sillons sont abreuvés par le sang impur du peuple qui se sacrifie ...
These ivory-headed gents did not seem promising at first but in time they've proven themselves to be knowledgeable, colorful, insightful historians. Are they professors or authors? Where? What?
I would like more commentary on the affect of the Revolution on the national psyche in ethical and moralistic terms. By prosecuting the church and royalty the people turned to debauchery. Then, later welcomed an Emperor and church with powers far beyond the previous times.
I once knew a man who constructed a life-size guillotine as an art project. Had trouble adjusting the blade. Had to add lead weight to get it to decapitate a melon.
If you look at an actual guillotine blade, they are approximately 1/2" steel, 18" x 26" with the angle on the narrower edge. From working with 1/2" plate, I'd guess about 50lb. So 50lb falling 20ft will hit dangerously hard. Someone could get hurt.
Quite possibly it was another of your podcasts that I learned that beheading was an aristocratic punishment in the middle ages so the guillotine was a case of levelling up. Hanging, at least without a Pierrepoint to make sure you were properly weighted, was much worse. Friends and relatives would hang onto the feet of hanged men to shorten the agony.
The Scottish Maiden 1564 & also The Gibbet used in Halifax in England ...not sure of the exact date the Gibbet was used , but the Maiden in Edinburgh used in the 16 th century .
I remember watching the film about Albert Pierpoint, the UK's hangman in the 20th century. He was played by Timothy Spall who gave a menacing portrayal. I can't get my head around why any decent human being wants to do this.
1. There are plenty of not so decent human beings to get the dirty work done. 2. Even otherwise pretty decent persons can be made to do horrible things if they can be convinced that what they are doing is for the greater good.
Giacomo Casanova was installed in one of the balconies overlooking the Place de Greve on the day of Damien's execution. Reading his account (Vol. III, Chapter 1 of the Memoirs), it becomes clear that these public executions played the role that wedding receptions do in the life of a blithe young bachelor today.
My only problem is that you say GILL-O-teen and i have always heard it as GEEyo-teen. Now I am not sure of that's just an American/Brit pronunciation situation or if it's bc i learned French.
I agree, 💯 , that the French Revolution was very gruesome. While at same time I am a big fan of The Rest is History podcasts. The podcasts on this revolution show how the French Revolution was horrifying with terrified people beheaded by the dreaded guillotine.
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This is the only episode in an otherwise exemplary series which I felt was off. Just too much salivating over really gruesome torture details. I’m not suggesting that we ignore this aspect ( it was integral to the revolution) it’s just that I thought it was OTT bordering on titillating.
I'll let you guys in on a little secret. Women are human beings. I KNOW! Shocking. And women, like all human beings, can behave badly. And it's not misogyny to point it out. Many women (not all, calm down) find human misery entertaining. From the decades of soap operas to the true crime documentaries on Lifetime. Many women I've loved in my life love stories, fictional and factual, of the worst day in a person's life. I don't understand it at all. I don't even think they do. But it's a fact.
You first point out that women are human beings too (shock horror) then proceed to say you don’t understand it & THEY don’t either 😂 why not ask why humans can be fascinated by horror?! Do you know why men can be?
@@eskylent7962 Human beings come with a myriad of negative urges that we must deal with or contain to coexist and live happy prosperous lives. Watching someone's life be taken from them with horrid fascination, and for some glee, would be one of those. Maybe you disagree?
My question is probably skewed by Madam Defarge and the other lady tricoteuses knitting as they watched the guillotine in action in Tale of Two Cities.
We may feel relieved, as the “empathic” heirs to the French Revolution, now that Justitia has finally lost her blindfold, and has welded fast the pivot of her scales, that Justitia only wields a nerf sword. We will see as Justitia accustoms herself to her newfound, and long suspected Godhood, and the exalted company she keeps, she will rapidly lose patience with this sword, and insist on a long, razor sharp and single edged sword instead.
The fellow called Blokhin was just one of Stalin’s executioners. He is credited with personally ushering tens of thousands into the afterlife. He bragged of being the sole executive in the disappearance of 7,000 Polish prisoners of war.
The guillotine was used as a celebratory symbol by the city of Paris at the Olympics this summer, with people clapping and laughing at a headless woman and a bloody guillotine. Tells you something about the future of Woke culture, no?
! You guys are lucky you aren't in France in the 19th century, for it is certain you both would be introduced to the guillotine for your tortured French accents. It is amusing how Tom, in particular, seems quite proud of his pronunciation, while in almost every instance he sounds like a strangled cat. For your edification, the correct pronunciation of the device, and the man after whom it was named, is "gee-yo-teen" NOT "Gill-o-tin." It is intellectual laziness not to learn the correct pronunciation of key terms, given how much research goes into every other aspect of your podcasts. So English!
Whilst I agree with the use of cartoonish accents in speech quotations I don't understand your criticism on 'guillotine' pronounciations. The inventor is Joseph-Ignace Guillotin (without an -e) and would not be pronounced "een", surely?. The device in English is pronounced "gilloteen' the same way that the capital of France is pronounced Paris not Paree.
Nothing that was said or done or written by the French during the French revolution was of any value. it was a catalogue of horrors during which the French achieved nothing and learned nothing.
@@Happyheretic2308 Nothing wrong with progressivism, it has given us the 5 day working week, universal education, universal suffrage, regulations against environmental harm, religious freedom .. I'll never understand the yearning of some conservatives to go back to living in the Dark Ages
This podcast is a real grower. I especially enjoy how you guys bring life to the minor characters in the story as they experience the events that unfold around them.
Nerd alert
agree. I listen to a lot of history podcasts and these two seem to be the best. Natural, knowledgeable and entertaining. I like them
I am 73 and have never enjoyed history so much THANK YOU
"Guillotine was pushing an open door"! Fabulous. These 2 eloquent Brits, with their jousting bookshelves, are true masters of the poetic wax!
French Revolution has been the best thing you’ve done on this podcast
oooo, the Luther mini series it pretty breathtaking
Titanic is pretty epic
UTFT!
Tom looks like the very spectre of the executioner with his face half lit by the supposed sunshine creeping into this horrific episode. (See 18.02 time stamp)
At 44:16 "Joseph-Ignace Guillotin was definitely ahead of the curve" 😂
Fun fact: In June 39, on his way down to the riviera, Christopher Lee stopped briefly in Paris, where he stayed with the journalist Webb Miller and witnessed the last public execution performed in France aha
Fun fact??
I was surprised that Tom pushed aside Dominic's point that whereas traditional executions emphasized the individuality of the condemned, the guillotine, by its mechanistic efficiency, had the effect of erasing that individuality. Designed to be humane, the guillotine dehumanized, making it easier to kill without guilt.
Charles Dickens witnessed a guillotining in Italy. The account of this is in his book ‘Pictures from Italy’. He was shocked by the casual and perfunctory nature of the procedure. The apparently apathetic crowd wandered away afterwards leaving the decapitated corpse on the machine. Dickens and a friend went up and examined the body. He was struck by the closeness of the cut - no part of the neck remained…
The History of the executioner dynasty is wild! I never would have imagined that was a thing that happened. It adds so much context to the executions in history, from Joan of arc, through The Terror, to (apparently) two weeks before the Star wars premiere
Your stories are GREAT ! I assume them to be accurate because they are so detailed.🐐of UA-cam history channels!!
Absolutely fascinating topic, presented brilliantly! Thank you!
It is also reckoned that in an age when upper classes were beheaded and lower classes were hanged, the ubiquitous guillotine symbolised - or made manifest - the ‘égalité’ of the revolutionary motto!
You say there'd never been anything like it before regarding the production line of slaughter. Maybe not in the French context, but it seems to me that in terms of that public spectacle there had perhaps been a premonition a hemisphere away.
The line of victims waiting in increasing terror for their their turn on the public platform, mounting the steps slippery with blood of those who have gone before, receiving their end and then the corpse discarded from the death pedestal and the next poor sod brought on. It's all a bit Tenochtitlan isn't it!
A bit
Very
The "maiden" had been "guillotining" the head off aristocrats in Edinburgh long before this and be seen in the national museum of Scotland
Figures. The Scots invented the modern world. LOL
Great fact!
I love when you google this, they admit that it was an early guillotine, but still insist it was france that invented it at a later date. Do your own research and don't rely on google and AI's
Brilliantly presented.
Thank you !
Dan carlin goes into great detail on the execution of the assassin of Louis 15th, in his prefontainment episode..very grim
Cutting edge technology for the time being
We see what you did there
They were indeed ahead of their time.
A cutting remark
but today that old tech would be put on the chopping block.......
38:35 A nice nod to Blackadder 3 there.
Excellent episode, very good point on the executioners. You might want to try, for fun, the “Commissaire Le Floch” mysteries, you will love the courtly French being used. Samson appears regularly in a sort of Coroner’s help capacity.
Jean-Francois Parot, their author, was a diplomat with a deep rounding in history. His Sanson, after the horrible end of Damiens, resolved to study anatomy so he could bring his charges to quicker and more humane ends. He had plenty of bodies to study--and so ended up with an unrivalled knowledge of violent death--or so the novels say.
'Cackling Orc-Faced women...' 😂
The hysteria, building up to a crescendo of violence, has very disconcerting parallels to today's viciously polarised society. Scary.
Rudolph Höß, the commandant of Auschwitz, had a similar epiphany regarding mass executions.
He had hated the effect on his men that came after executing people by firing squad.
I can’t remember his exact words; but after discovering cyanide was quick and efficient, he said something like “it makes it far-easier to sleep at night.”
Great content and a great format. I learned a lot from this.
Fantastic episode! Loving this series.
Police Commissioner Charles Dreyfus used to have a miniature guillotine on his desk to cut his cigars. On one occasion, he was so upset and distracted by the antics of Inspector Clouseau, he managed to cut his own finger off.
It was his pinky, and it was a clue for the inspector.
Lol, oh no. Mixing Clouseau with reality again. I don't even want to admit how many years I spent thinking that the famous Dreyfuss Affair in French politics had something to do with the Pink Panther.
@@mule-do6tc it was kind of obvious huh.
A true historical event, no doubt.
@@mule-do6tc Well for years I thought Clouseau had foiled the Jackal’s attempt to assassinate DeGaulle.
We had a guest speaker at Oxford University in the Middle Eastern Department that worked for an Oil Company. He spoke how he visited Baghdad in the 1950’s only to see burlap bags covering poles around the Presidential Palace. He thought they were protecting shrubs only to be told because of his presence they were covering up human heads that were placed on the pikes!😮
Friends thank you for all the time reading you've put in to be able to present this great series. I'm here like an addict scratching for each episode. 😂😂
In hindsight, listening to this just after a hearty lunch wasn’t the best idea! Fascinating and gruesome.
Two (apocryphal?) euphemisms of the time: "the national razor'' "to shake the hot hand" And the witness of Marie Antoinette's execution who claimed he was so close he could hear "the whisper of the axe".
For those who may be interested in a Caribbean counterpart to Dickens' description of the guillotine, I recommend to read the work of the giant of Cuban literature Alejo Carpentier, who described so well the impact of the revolution in the Caribbean in his masterpiece "Explosion in a Cathedral".
Oh no....The Spoon....The Spoon! 😂 Brilliant episode as usual. Terrible topic but presented so well I think I need to buy yet another book recommended here. I'm completely addicted to these podcasts - thank you!
I hope you follow this up with the Bourbon Restoration!
Would saying "A la lanterne!" with Keir Starmer in the vacinity get you broken on the wheel?
Great episode - I wonder if Sanson removed Robespierre's bandage before the execution to reminisce about the good old days when he could torture people.
PS Mass executions do not necessarily require a guillotine, there are traces of mass executions from the Neolithic era - and during the French Revolution, Fouche and Collot shot at convicts with grapeshot, and Carrier drowned people in Nantes. When Robespierre found out about these atrocities, he immediately recalled them from their missions and they feared the guillotine, which is why they were the ringleaders of the 9 Thermidor."
Great episode. Given your several references in this series, it’d be great if you could do the restoration and the Glorious Revolution 1688.
34:50 - 35:20 ... uh, your French accent sounds precisely like the French taunting knight in the castle in Monty Python and the Holy Grail. Lol "your mother was a hamster and your father smelled of elderberries".
"Of course I'm French! Why do you think I have zis outrageous accent?"
Because in the same era the British were effectively strangling people. How very English.
how very intimate? ............ so not very English?
Christopher Lee witnessed the last public guillotining.
Ironically he played Sanson in the 1989 two-parter "The French Revolution" which you can find on this platform...
…of a murderer called Weidmann. It was filmed.
@jamesrogers5277 He had an Amazing life. Aside from playing Saurumon The White, he also had a heavy metal band. I found that incredible. That he would head bang at his age. He never let being old get him down. He was just cool.
The women with knitting needles reminds me of a scene in the Scarlett Pimpernel TV movie with Anthony Andrews which is a great film
It seems that the transition to impersonal slaughter represents an economic shift from the feudal to the industrial. The old systems are not built to handle volume and depend on personality; the new way is about process with individual personality drained away.
Here in Vietnam the French had a portable guillotine that was like a box trailer pulled by a truck and would travel around to provincial prisons. The idear was to set up before lunch and then decide whether to dispatch before lunch or after eating and drinking.
crazy it was used in the 20th C
There is a movie of the last public execution in France on UA-cam. It is a very quick procedure - over in a few seconds!
In early 1900s an early movie maker applied to be given a spot near the execution platform to film it. However, his request was denied, so he concealed the camera and filmed it from a less favourable angle.
The scandel, when the film was shown, was such that future executions were done behind closed days.
Of course these sensibilities went by the board on 1944/45.
Interesting point regarding the last public execution in Paris using the Guillotine in 1939. Watching from an apartment window across the street from the "event" was the 17 year old Christopher Lee of Dracula , Hammer films fame.
Tom, the guillotine is all very fascinating and all that but is that a dinosaur fossil you have on your shelf there? 🤔😁
The last line of 'The Marseillaise' is pretty strong:
'Qu'un sang impur abreuve nos sillons.'-
'Let their [aristocrats] foul blood drench our furrows.'
Mais non, le sang impur n'est pas celui des aristocrates mais celui du peuple non noble ... Les sillons sont abreuvés par le sang impur du peuple qui se sacrifie ...
These ivory-headed gents did not seem promising at first but in time they've proven themselves to be knowledgeable, colorful, insightful historians. Are they professors or authors? Where? What?
Holland has written several very good books of popular history.
Having read Innocent the mention Sanson got me excited
I would like more commentary on the affect of the Revolution on the national psyche in ethical and moralistic terms. By prosecuting the church and royalty the people turned to debauchery. Then, later welcomed an Emperor and church with powers far beyond the previous times.
Well, she did attend one 😮 31:12
Im relieved that you didn't try the accent, Dominic.
A company called Aurora used to do a splendid working plastic model of the guillotine.
Nice to know. Full size?
Marie Antoinette did in fact, go to an execution. Just the one.
💀
I once knew a man who constructed a life-size guillotine as an art project. Had trouble adjusting the blade. Had to add lead weight to get it to decapitate a melon.
If you look at an actual guillotine blade, they are approximately 1/2" steel, 18" x 26" with the angle on the narrower edge. From working with 1/2" plate, I'd guess about 50lb. So 50lb falling 20ft will hit dangerously hard. Someone could get hurt.
Cannot imagine and seems as though the French still have hard time like the rest of us imagining the insanity of the moment
From what I have read and heard, it took two tries on the guillotine to get through the king's fat neck.
it goes it goes it goes it goes it goes it goes it goes it goes...
Quite possibly it was another of your podcasts that I learned that beheading was an aristocratic punishment in the middle ages so the guillotine was a case of levelling up. Hanging, at least without a Pierrepoint to make sure you were properly weighted, was much worse. Friends and relatives would hang onto the feet of hanged men to shorten the agony.
Did I hear correctly, that Marie Antoinette was a fan and supporter of the classic public executions? If so, how and where is this known and recorded?
The guillotine machine (it was not called that of course!) was actually invented by the Scottish hundreds of years before the French Revolution.
Is this true? I’ve never heard this.
@@jameseverett8206 It's in Wikipedia but I've read it in other sources as well - the Scots had a killing machine like the guillotine!
@@kaloarepo288 sigh ... Wikipedia is not a trusted source.
@@Happyheretic2308 It can be a starting point but must be checked against other sources!
The Scottish Maiden 1564 & also The Gibbet used in Halifax in England ...not sure of the exact date the Gibbet was used , but the Maiden in Edinburgh used in the 16 th century .
Ugh. I stood on the Place de Greve last year and thought how pretty it looked.
We need to bring it back
Ah, the National Razor...
I remember watching the film about Albert Pierpoint, the UK's hangman in the 20th century. He was played by Timothy Spall who gave a menacing portrayal. I can't get my head around why any decent human being wants to do this.
1. There are plenty of not so decent human beings to get the dirty work done.
2. Even otherwise pretty decent persons can be made to do horrible things if they can be convinced that what they are doing is for the greater good.
The cognitive dissonance of the text/guillotine and Dominic's face on the thumbnail is just wonderful.
"In just a few seconds, another sliced loaf"
You gotta crack a few eggs to make an omelet, and you can't do that until the egg is removed from the chicken.
Sir Christopher Lee witnessed the last public execution carried out by guillotine.
And played Sanson in the 1989 TV film about the revolution.
In 1939, at the age of 17. Fine introduction to the war years.
More of a shovel than a spoon really
Giacomo Casanova was installed in one of the balconies overlooking the Place de Greve on the day of Damien's execution. Reading his account (Vol. III, Chapter 1 of the Memoirs), it becomes clear that these public executions played the role that wedding receptions do in the life of a blithe young bachelor today.
There's one on display in Vietnam. The French of course left it behind.
Riveting stuff!
At 43:58 Tom Holland is probably referring to La guillotine permanente ua-cam.com/video/XU5Rhcx5ZNs/v-deo.html
Thanks.
A game of two halves ...?
Ooh that 1757 execution story disturbed me so bad i dont think I can sleep! Worse than Henry the 8th. Rather have the guillotine if it wad me
Slightly uncomfortable listening to Dominic chuckle through description of the drawn out execution of of Louis 15th’s attempted assassin.
The boys are having a jolly old time 😂
My only problem is that you say GILL-O-teen and i have always heard it as GEEyo-teen. Now I am not sure of that's just an American/Brit pronunciation situation or if it's bc i learned French.
The guillotine was only used once in Sweden.
Tomas Carlyle wasn't English. He was born in Dumfries-shire
You guys need to make yourselves relevant to today!
No, its not terrifying, it was .
Today we have far more stuff to be terrified of
A tour de force haha
The more l learn about it, the more I hate the Revolution.
I agree, 💯 , that the French Revolution was very gruesome. While at same time I am a big fan of The Rest is History podcasts. The podcasts on this revolution show how the French Revolution was horrifying with terrified people beheaded by the dreaded guillotine.
Spoon or no spoon....✅ back ground source info big dipper star system.
Great Halloween Show! 💀😁 please do a show or two on 'Arthur Laffer' #thelaffercurve and Reaganomics.. m.ua-cam.com/play/PLa2mOZh4Px93pff4br4y5uZLbKV4jQ5SW.html
This is the only episode in an otherwise exemplary series which I felt was off. Just too much salivating over really gruesome torture details. I’m not suggesting that we ignore this aspect ( it was integral to the revolution) it’s just that I thought it was OTT bordering on titillating.
Women, Can't Live with Them
Can't Live Without Them.
God Help Us All
Mr Guillotine was fond of quangoes. Good to know.
Probably time to do a full episode on the Reign of Terror, since the US is about to have one.
I'll let you guys in on a little secret. Women are human beings. I KNOW! Shocking. And women, like all human beings, can behave badly. And it's not misogyny to point it out. Many women (not all, calm down) find human misery entertaining. From the decades of soap operas to the true crime documentaries on Lifetime. Many women I've loved in my life love stories, fictional and factual, of the worst day in a person's life. I don't understand it at all. I don't even think they do. But it's a fact.
You first point out that women are human beings too (shock horror) then proceed to say you don’t understand it & THEY don’t either 😂 why not ask why humans can be fascinated by horror?! Do you know why men can be?
@@eskylent7962 Human beings come with a myriad of negative urges that we must deal with or contain to coexist and live happy prosperous lives. Watching someone's life be taken from them with horrid fascination, and for some glee, would be one of those. Maybe you disagree?
@@thanksfernuthin so why would it be any different for women? It sounded like it was a mystery to you why women would be fascinated too.
My question is probably skewed by Madam Defarge and the other lady tricoteuses knitting as they watched the guillotine in action in Tale of Two Cities.
Can you trace what happened then to what is going on today.
We may feel relieved, as the “empathic” heirs to the French Revolution, now that Justitia has finally lost her blindfold, and has welded fast the pivot of her scales, that Justitia only wields a nerf sword. We will see as Justitia accustoms herself to her newfound, and long suspected Godhood, and the exalted company she keeps, she will rapidly lose patience with this sword, and insist on a long, razor sharp and single edged sword instead.
How horrible to be the man (Charles-Henri Sanson) who personally executed two thousand human beings.
Makes you wonder if there was a record length scarf or jumper made
The fellow called Blokhin was just one of Stalin’s executioners. He is credited with personally ushering tens of thousands into the afterlife. He bragged of being the sole executive in the disappearance of 7,000 Polish prisoners of war.
Probably worse to be one of the 2000
I doubt it was horrible for him. He probably didn't lose any sleep because of that.
The death penalty is just and good and should not be viewed with horror
The guillotine was used as a celebratory symbol by the city of Paris at the Olympics this summer, with people clapping and laughing at a headless woman and a bloody guillotine. Tells you something about the future of Woke culture, no?
5:09 The White Race? Oh, cringe. It was _The White Rose._
I love this show but the french accent has to stop, dear god stop
Nawn, we adorons ze accents Francis, hon he hon hehon.
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You guys are lucky you aren't in France in the 19th century, for it is certain you both would be introduced to the guillotine for your tortured French accents. It is amusing how Tom, in particular, seems quite proud of his pronunciation, while in almost every instance he sounds like a strangled cat. For your edification, the correct pronunciation of the device, and the man after whom it was named, is "gee-yo-teen" NOT "Gill-o-tin." It is intellectual laziness not to learn the correct pronunciation of key terms, given how much research goes into every other aspect of your podcasts.
So English!
Whilst I agree with the use of cartoonish accents in speech quotations I don't understand your criticism on 'guillotine' pronounciations. The inventor is Joseph-Ignace Guillotin (without an -e) and would not be pronounced "een", surely?. The device in English is pronounced "gilloteen' the same way that the capital of France is pronounced Paris not Paree.
Women watch 80% of all Netflix serial killer and torture films. The Guillotine was the Netflix of the 1790's.
At the core of this bloodshed is the deeply flawed ideology of secular humanism.
Nothing that was said or done or written by the French during the French revolution was of any value. it was a catalogue of horrors during which the French achieved nothing and learned nothing.
The word “progressive” conjures up nothing but revulsion and dread. It is not something to aspire to.
ok boomer
@ wrong group, pet.
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Nothing wrong with progressivism, it has given us the 5 day working week, universal education, universal suffrage, regulations against environmental harm, religious freedom .. I'll never understand the yearning of some conservatives to go back to living in the Dark Ages