6:34 It was crazy when it was revealed that Karstedt and Elvira’s marriage was only good when Rozemyne came into the picture, because we only saw it as good, but that was because we saw their relationship right when the rift started to mend.
Rozemyne is not an easy person to be in a relationship with. You need to be able to both keep her happy and rein her in so that she doesn’t accidentally revolutionize fashion or something while your back is turned. And you need to have enough willpower so that she doesn’t just manipulate you all the time. Combined with the fact that she’s hardly got a romantic bone in her body (at least as far as Yurgenschmidt’s sensibilities are concerned), Wilfried and Sigsiwald specifically were always going to be in for a bad time.
Ah! The zealot couple. Spreading the Word of Rozemyne far and wide. Converting nobles like Jesuit missionaries. Defending their Lady in both social and martial circles.
I can see Eckhart and Angelica getting back together and even having children because they both want the best knights for Rozemyne and Ferdinand’s future children. (Once RM realizes she’s engaged at least). At least one of the kids would end up a scholar to adapt to the battle-crazed household, since Eckhart probably wouldn’t bother taking a first wife, and someone has to make sure the house doesn’t fall apart. The kid will be like, “Yes,mother, I’ll come to sword practice right after I finish with our quarterly taxes.😆
They could hire a Nanny to make sure the children are well looked after and Angelica can return to Roze' service earlier (Philine's Aunt Isberga told her that when Kashick considered what to do to raise her and Konrad, to either hire a Nanny or marry a new wife, he ended up choosing the cheaper option of marrying Jonsara)... Or maybe Aunt Lieseleta and Aunt Leonore would be very involved in raising EckLina's children...
@@JukitaChan I can definitely see that! In that case I can see a bunch of battle-crazed kids because training is the best way to spend time with mama and papa 😁
I feel like Eckhart and Angelica will find something someday. They will never been like Eckhart and his first Wife, but they will find something their own.
Great video. Also - anyone is willing to place bets that Elvira prayed pretty hard to Bluanfah that her sons not only marry well but to find true love?
Lamprecht I have very little opinions on. But I think Aurelia is adorable. Therefore the ship in which someone is fighting for her safety and comfort is awesome in my book.
I can see Angelica and Eckhart ending up together but never bothering with kids. Just because they both just wanna guard there lords/ladys. But this was a nice video to watch with the next book coming out on the 20th. Also got this video making me realize I should listen to the drama cd’s more. Listened/read the first one but haven’t bothered with the others yet.
Wish more of the Video Essay, The Book Discussion is nice, want to listen the Community View and opinion but the Book reading is good if it in separate video. as can set on the background to listen
i'm missing a few couples even if we don't know a lot about them. primarily i would have loved Damuel x Brigitte (which we do know a lot about), Ottilie x Leberecht and one of my personal favs Philine x Damuel. and one person i'm really kinda sad never got attention in the ship departement was Judithe. Personally i would have loved a romance between her and Matthias. personally i think that's because Judithe to me always seemed like someone very bubbly in personality whereas Matthias is a lot more coolheaded and calculating. i think that what they would seek in a partner is exactly exasperated in eachothers personality. Matthias has a strong sence of responcibility and viewing himself as the one responcible for taking down his father for the crimes he has commited i think would have done wonders in proving that responcibility to dedication that he has and that Judithe as someone reised in Kirnberger would def valkue that dedication and sence of responcibility that coupled with the fact that he was capible of keeping up with the knights following rozemyne i think would work well with her devotion to ppl with stronger mana capacities which she admired in Angelica. For him on the other hand as we see in the case of the voice recording shumil Matthias is very ceceptible to the traditional forms of romantic engagements something i think Judithe would actually follow to the latter as a traditionalist from Kirnberger. her bubbly personality i think would also keep Matthias from keeping his head streight on in that regard making him all the more flustered in those situations XD
TBH for Matthias, intra duchy love lines will never work, both for faction and the Move reasons... he's basically Damuel but in a more privileged position with sadder-ish story
34:12 My favorite couple is Eckhart and Angelica. There are a lot of good couple, but they are my favorites. It would be interesting to cover couples that get a lot less time, Melchior’s brother and his wife, for example. Damuel’s brother and Freida (weird though that is, it’s still a relevant dynamic). I forget if you discussed Benno and Liz or Hugo and his first relationship. Lutz’s parents would also be interesting if you skipped them previously. None of these had a lot of time, but I think they still tell us a lot.
Angelica does not only not have romantic thoughts. There are a lot of thoughts that she does not have ;). Still as for kids, I am sure she and Eckhart would have some to serve as their respective lords' children guard knights.
15:01 One of the only good things Georgine did as an adult. Absolutely she was twisted nearly beyond belief by her mother’s actions, but she still did all the horrible things she did. This one just happened to help someone else.
To be fair to Wilfried, he didn't want the engagement to be cancelled because he thought Rozemyne wasn't good enough, quite the contrary. A large part of his motivation is that he was basically leeching off her accomplishments, and he could tell he wouldn't be able to become a peer to her. He refused to accept her being a tool for his political advantage to give him influence he didn't deserve. Ferdinand and Wilfried were both chosen as the next archduke over a more competent sister because they were males, and what it meant politically. But while Ferdinand just told Georgine "why don't you become Aub" without making any effort to make it happen, Wilfried actually fought to avoid being thrust into a position he didn't deserve. He's aware Charlotte would make a better Aub than him, and it doesn't make him jealous. Then there's the fact that he came to realize he cared for her as a sister and not a woman, but that's just feelings. Those aren't the main factor when it comes to archduke marriage.
Ironically, Its not that Rozenmyne didn't develop mana sensing, Its just that her mana is too big and mana sensing can only tell those with mana similar to you. In other words, the only people who could be sense by Rosenmyne is those who at least have enough mana to die a dutchy foundation or to have their own version of the Grutrashrite. You must remember that she is actually one and a half year older then Wilfried. She has been falsifying her age all this while
No, she is older, but her body has not developed, remember the 2-years juvere? Before visiting Treesus to get Book of Mestionora, her body was only around 10-11 yo, and author also confirmed it on Fanbook. Only when Answach grew Rozemyne up to her real age, then she developed mana-sensing, but at that time, all people around her could not sense her. Only until meet Gervasio and then Ferdinand. Ferdinand was in range, but because their mana was so close (99%) so they cannot sense each other and also cannot have children at this stage. It was only after Mestionora descent to her body, dyed her with divine god, alter her colour. That make her can sense Ferdinand. Then later on, even Ferdinand redye her, he could not completely dye her like before because Mestionora's colour affect Roz's mana organ, and Ferdie cannot rewrite the color, just around 90%. The difference now was enough to make them sense each other and be able to have children in future.
@@lindatran8357 that's totally Ferdinand fault. He was constantly dieing myne's mana with his juruve during the spring prayer even after he did the that memory thing. Afterwards, he continues to die her mana further by his charms and hairpin ornaments that he gave to her for protection. I'm not surprised at all that her mana end up mirroring Ferdinand so much that the gods got confused
@@mohdsufiansalleh4085 Excuse me, when did Ferdinand use his juvere to heal her? Rozemyne make her own juvere! And Ferdinand didn't know she has the mark of Ewigeliebe, in normal case her colour would returned to her original colour after 1 month. Are you sure you're not reading too many fanfic and mixed up with canon thing?
@@lindatran8357 remember when she was out off mana during spring prayer, after she bless kardsted and Silvester, then use shutzaria shield to protect the carriage full of her gray robes, He said he didn't have rejuvenate potion so he hand his juruve, and then again during the juruve hunt after the spring eggs outside the cave. That was juruve too. Most would miss it as it was only mentioned casually as something that could help and Rozenmyne said that it tasted sweet, just like what he gave him before he used that memory thingamabob, but yes. It happened. Fyi: I'm certain as I'm not reading any fan fiction 😑
I want an extended ending where one of the last scene between Elvira Karstedt and Rozemyne is Elvira telling Rozemyne that she is pregnant with Karstedt blushing.
Sorry for my rant in advance: Wilfried is flawed but I think Wilfried gets too much hate, more than he deserves Not justifying his faults but highlighting what is going through his head Biggest flaw is he is too gullible/trusting. Minor flaws is childishness, cowardice against higher duchy (most of the Ehrenfest/middle/lesser duchy also act), and not enough patience The biggest issue is people he associate with; Veronica and Oswald (both loyal but very bad influence), Barthold (his manipulative name sworn), Leisegang, Detlinde, Bonifatius, Ortwin and Lestilaut to lesser extent His main two parent figures growing up were both stripped away from him (Veronica and Oswald) which is devastating if you look at Georgine's backstory Sylvester and Florencia pretty much set him up to fail separately (Sylvester forcing him on being aub which he did not want nor was suited for and Florencia throwing him into Leisegang at arguably one of the worst time) - this was his breaking point that made him throw a tantrum (Forced into aub which he is not suitable for, forced into marriage he did not want, his most loyal/parental figures taken away, everyone is trying to use him if not belittle him, his very life is threatened) - Definitely has had a rough three years that was vastly not his fault Not as many hurdles as Rosemyne but probably top 5 after Trauerqaul, Ferdinand, and Veronica (6 if you consider Letizia as worse)
Elvira has always been and always will be the best girl of this series. Also Wilbur can screw himself. Looking forward to the next vid. Will it contain the only true ship? Of course I mean Rozemyne x Hannelore.
Sylvester and Brunhilde aren’t romantic at all. I think Brunhilde thinks so little of Wilfred that she would see a lot of his mannerisms in Sylvester and she’d be turned off. That being said though this is a business relationship proposed by this Lady Boss and I think it will work.
They are each other's beard and I love the respect they have for each other. I only see them marrying in Arensbach to avoid marriage pressure again. Otherwise they'd be single for life!
Watch the previous video in the series, Lower City Couples:
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You did such a a great job on this video! Thank you for making sense of my jumbled thoughts and comments!😂😊
6:34 It was crazy when it was revealed that Karstedt and Elvira’s marriage was only good when Rozemyne came into the picture, because we only saw it as good, but that was because we saw their relationship right when the rift started to mend.
Too bad the only other mom scene in her adopted home when it's so “late”
Rozemyne is not an easy person to be in a relationship with. You need to be able to both keep her happy and rein her in so that she doesn’t accidentally revolutionize fashion or something while your back is turned. And you need to have enough willpower so that she doesn’t just manipulate you all the time. Combined with the fact that she’s hardly got a romantic bone in her body (at least as far as Yurgenschmidt’s sensibilities are concerned), Wilfried and Sigsiwald specifically were always going to be in for a bad time.
13:42 I agree. Her choosing Rozemyne over Eckhart almost definitely made her a better match in his eyes.
I see Bluanfah has heralded Effloreflume's dance in Ehrenfest.
I am both proud yet partially ashamed I understand that 😂😂😂
I think it is more apt to call the Karstedt/Elvira ship sunk from the harbor until Rosemyne built them a new one at sea.
Can't wait for Hartmut & Clarissa!
Soon! I hope to do them justice!
Ah! The zealot couple. Spreading the Word of Rozemyne far and wide. Converting nobles like Jesuit missionaries. Defending their Lady in both social and martial circles.
I can see Eckhart and Angelica getting back together and even having children because they both want the best knights for Rozemyne and Ferdinand’s future children. (Once RM realizes she’s engaged at least). At least one of the kids would end up a scholar to adapt to the battle-crazed household, since Eckhart probably wouldn’t bother taking a first wife, and someone has to make sure the house doesn’t fall apart. The kid will be like, “Yes,mother, I’ll come to sword practice right after I finish with our quarterly taxes.😆
They could hire a Nanny to make sure the children are well looked after and Angelica can return to Roze' service earlier (Philine's Aunt Isberga told her that when Kashick considered what to do to raise her and Konrad, to either hire a Nanny or marry a new wife, he ended up choosing the cheaper option of marrying Jonsara)... Or maybe Aunt Lieseleta and Aunt Leonore would be very involved in raising EckLina's children...
Don't forget there is still possibility of Stenluke fulfilling that role.
@@JukitaChan I can definitely see that! In that case I can see a bunch of battle-crazed kids because training is the best way to spend time with mama and papa 😁
I feel like Eckhart and Angelica will find something someday. They will never been like Eckhart and his first Wife, but they will find something their own.
I hope so too! Eckhart deserves a happy ending!
Woohoo new video! I like that all the drama CD chapters were included. I still hold out hope for a English release one day
I hope so too!
17:29 Georgine helped the ship sail, but Rozemyne helped the bride to flourish by welcoming her in publicly.
Great video. Also - anyone is willing to place bets that Elvira prayed pretty hard to Bluanfah that her sons not only marry well but to find true love?
i absolutely am specifically. when you think about what kind of relationship she previously had with Karsted.
Karstedt family is the tamest and cute for a noble family 😍
Great content as always! It was nice hearing the stuff I wasn't there for.
Glad you enjoyed! 😊
Lamprecht I have very little opinions on. But I think Aurelia is adorable. Therefore the ship in which someone is fighting for her safety and comfort is awesome in my book.
I think in the first or second video of announcing the Elvira merch I almost expected to hear "Elvira mother of love" kinda like "mother of dragons"
Dragon Mommy is as cool as Wolf Mommy ~
Elvira, avatar of bluanfah.
Ya… Wilfred and Rosemyne was a ship kept together with Ducktape.
*Side note, Thanks from including my comment in so many things. 😊
not even ducktape that's was barely celophane tape XD
@@LIAuNXeNON more like cheap tape that loses 90% sticky after tearing off your skin.
@@PrograError yes m8 that's cellophane tape XD
@@LIAuNXeNON i meant the real cheap china brand tbh
With Archduketape, specifically :p.
22:01 Cornelius is just being a good Brother! Do has he says not as he do.
LOVED THE VIDEOOO!!! ❤❤❤❤❤ I adore how Linkberg oriented the video ended up being~~ Lady Elvira Best Noblemama and Noblewife~~
Leonore X Cornelius and Damuel X Paru Cakes are the true OTPs
Oh stop bullying damuel. He has philine
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I can see Angelica and Eckhart ending up together but never bothering with kids. Just because they both just wanna guard there lords/ladys. But this was a nice video to watch with the next book coming out on the 20th.
Also got this video making me realize I should listen to the drama cd’s more. Listened/read the first one but haven’t bothered with the others yet.
I feel like Angelica will insist on a couple. Just so she can “Train” some knights herself.
Wish more of the Video Essay,
The Book Discussion is nice, want to listen the Community View and opinion
but the Book reading is good if it in separate video. as can set on the background to listen
i'm missing a few couples even if we don't know a lot about them. primarily i would have loved Damuel x Brigitte (which we do know a lot about), Ottilie x Leberecht and one of my personal favs Philine x Damuel. and one person i'm really kinda sad never got attention in the ship departement was Judithe. Personally i would have loved a romance between her and Matthias. personally i think that's because Judithe to me always seemed like someone very bubbly in personality whereas Matthias is a lot more coolheaded and calculating. i think that what they would seek in a partner is exactly exasperated in eachothers personality. Matthias has a strong sence of responcibility and viewing himself as the one responcible for taking down his father for the crimes he has commited i think would have done wonders in proving that responcibility to dedication that he has and that Judithe as someone reised in Kirnberger would def valkue that dedication and sence of responcibility that coupled with the fact that he was capible of keeping up with the knights following rozemyne i think would work well with her devotion to ppl with stronger mana capacities which she admired in Angelica. For him on the other hand as we see in the case of the voice recording shumil Matthias is very ceceptible to the traditional forms of romantic engagements something i think Judithe would actually follow to the latter as a traditionalist from Kirnberger. her bubbly personality i think would also keep Matthias from keeping his head streight on in that regard making him all the more flustered in those situations XD
TBH for Matthias, intra duchy love lines will never work, both for faction and the Move reasons... he's basically Damuel but in a more privileged position with sadder-ish story
34:12 My favorite couple is Eckhart and Angelica. There are a lot of good couple, but they are my favorites.
It would be interesting to cover couples that get a lot less time, Melchior’s brother and his wife, for example. Damuel’s brother and Freida (weird though that is, it’s still a relevant dynamic). I forget if you discussed Benno and Liz or Hugo and his first relationship. Lutz’s parents would also be interesting if you skipped them previously. None of these had a lot of time, but I think they still tell us a lot.
Angelica does not only not have romantic thoughts. There are a lot of thoughts that she does not have ;). Still as for kids, I am sure she and Eckhart would have some to serve as their respective lords' children guard knights.
haha this is true. I suppose at some point they'll have to continue the bloodline...
This Video almost became a Linkberg family ship video lol
I know ☺️ I just couldn't help myself!!
Best noble family in Ehrenfest. Best family goes to Myne's lower city family @TheChatteringMagpi
AngeHart would be perfect retainer couple for FerMyne.
15:01 One of the only good things Georgine did as an adult. Absolutely she was twisted nearly beyond belief by her mother’s actions, but she still did all the horrible things she did. This one just happened to help someone else.
To be fair to Wilfried, he didn't want the engagement to be cancelled because he thought Rozemyne wasn't good enough, quite the contrary. A large part of his motivation is that he was basically leeching off her accomplishments, and he could tell he wouldn't be able to become a peer to her. He refused to accept her being a tool for his political advantage to give him influence he didn't deserve.
Ferdinand and Wilfried were both chosen as the next archduke over a more competent sister because they were males, and what it meant politically. But while Ferdinand just told Georgine "why don't you become Aub" without making any effort to make it happen, Wilfried actually fought to avoid being thrust into a position he didn't deserve. He's aware Charlotte would make a better Aub than him, and it doesn't make him jealous.
Then there's the fact that he came to realize he cared for her as a sister and not a woman, but that's just feelings. Those aren't the main factor when it comes to archduke marriage.
That is the whole reason I was down with Wilfried again when we hear his actual feelings on the matter. 😊
I wanna the next ships videooooo 😂
Soon, I promise!+
@@TheChatteringMagpi this obviously took a lot of work. Take your time, we care for you o/
(But I they are so good :) Gimme more hehehe)
Ironically, Its not that Rozenmyne didn't develop mana sensing, Its just that her mana is too big and mana sensing can only tell those with mana similar to you. In other words, the only people who could be sense by Rosenmyne is those who at least have enough mana to die a dutchy foundation or to have their own version of the Grutrashrite. You must remember that she is actually one and a half year older then Wilfried. She has been falsifying her age all this while
No, she is older, but her body has not developed, remember the 2-years juvere? Before visiting Treesus to get Book of Mestionora, her body was only around 10-11 yo, and author also confirmed it on Fanbook.
Only when Answach grew Rozemyne up to her real age, then she developed mana-sensing, but at that time, all people around her could not sense her. Only until meet Gervasio and then Ferdinand.
Ferdinand was in range, but because their mana was so close (99%) so they cannot sense each other and also cannot have children at this stage. It was only after Mestionora descent to her body, dyed her with divine god, alter her colour. That make her can sense Ferdinand. Then later on, even Ferdinand redye her, he could not completely dye her like before because Mestionora's colour affect Roz's mana organ, and Ferdie cannot rewrite the color, just around 90%. The difference now was enough to make them sense each other and be able to have children in future.
@@lindatran8357 that's totally Ferdinand fault. He was constantly dieing myne's mana with his juruve during the spring prayer even after he did the that memory thing. Afterwards, he continues to die her mana further by his charms and hairpin ornaments that he gave to her for protection. I'm not surprised at all that her mana end up mirroring Ferdinand so much that the gods got confused
@@mohdsufiansalleh4085 Excuse me, when did Ferdinand use his juvere to heal her? Rozemyne make her own juvere! And Ferdinand didn't know she has the mark of Ewigeliebe, in normal case her colour would returned to her original colour after 1 month.
Are you sure you're not reading too many fanfic and mixed up with canon thing?
@@lindatran8357 remember when she was out off mana during spring prayer, after she bless kardsted and Silvester, then use shutzaria shield to protect the carriage full of her gray robes, He said he didn't have rejuvenate potion so he hand his juruve, and then again during the juruve hunt after the spring eggs outside the cave. That was juruve too. Most would miss it as it was only mentioned casually as something that could help and Rozenmyne said that it tasted sweet, just like what he gave him before he used that memory thingamabob, but yes. It happened. Fyi: I'm certain as I'm not reading any fan fiction 😑
if Beischmacht had a color
Silvesters Highbeast faystone would glow harder then the sun in it
What about the ships that appear genuine but are not official couples...yet? Like Damuel and Philline?
Part 2! Just covering Ehrenfest couples was more than an hour long video, so I had to cut it.
I want an extended ending where one of the last scene between Elvira Karstedt and Rozemyne is Elvira telling Rozemyne that she is pregnant with Karstedt blushing.
Sorry for my rant in advance:
Wilfried is flawed but I think Wilfried gets too much hate, more than he deserves
Not justifying his faults but highlighting what is going through his head
Biggest flaw is he is too gullible/trusting. Minor flaws is childishness, cowardice against higher duchy (most of the Ehrenfest/middle/lesser duchy also act), and not enough patience
The biggest issue is people he associate with; Veronica and Oswald (both loyal but very bad influence), Barthold (his manipulative name sworn), Leisegang, Detlinde,
Bonifatius, Ortwin and Lestilaut to lesser extent
His main two parent figures growing up were both stripped away from him (Veronica and Oswald) which is devastating if you look at Georgine's backstory
Sylvester and Florencia pretty much set him up to fail separately (Sylvester forcing him on being aub which he did not want nor was suited for and Florencia throwing him into Leisegang at arguably one of the worst time) - this was his breaking point that made him throw a tantrum
(Forced into aub which he is not suitable for, forced into marriage he did not want, his most loyal/parental figures taken away, everyone is trying to use him if not belittle him, his very life is threatened) - Definitely has had a rough three years that was vastly not his fault
Not as many hurdles as Rosemyne but probably top 5 after Trauerqaul, Ferdinand, and Veronica (6 if you consider Letizia as worse)
Lutz and Myne are my personal ship, still.
too bad that would never be... at least the sis's ship is sailing nicely...
Angela is really the biggest freak in the series.
well... she's balanced by the lack of brain power
20:41 reminder that the ONLY REASON Leonore is not on current love stories is because of FLORENCIA telling her out of it xD
Elvira has always been and always will be the best girl of this series. Also Wilbur can screw himself.
Looking forward to the next vid. Will it contain the only true ship? Of course I mean Rozemyne x Hannelore.
Once I finish Ehrenfest peeps, I'll move on to Hannelore and all the other Yurgenschmidt nobles
No Sylvester x Florencia ship meme?
Ahhhh darn it!! I'll include it in the next video!!
The Brunhilde tie-in is so interesting.
Sylvester and Brunhilde aren’t romantic at all. I think Brunhilde thinks so little of Wilfred that she would see a lot of his mannerisms in Sylvester and she’d be turned off. That being said though this is a business relationship proposed by this Lady Boss and I think it will work.
Brunhilde does her best in all things including accepting the bad things on her boss/husband
Eckhart and Angelica is a "perfect" couple only because scosiety forces people into marriage. Both of them could care less about love
They are the best of colleagues
@@sommeone Hartmut and Clarissa: 😈🔥
They are each other's beard and I love the respect they have for each other. I only see them marrying in Arensbach to avoid marriage pressure again. Otherwise they'd be single for life!
Wilfried x Hannelore pls thx!