Recording HEAVY GUITARS with HEADPHONES!

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  • @KohleAudioKult
    @KohleAudioKult  3 дні тому +17

    How do you like my low end trick?
    And who has used headphones as mics?

    • @HenritheHorse
      @HenritheHorse День тому

      Sounds great! Never tried!

    • @oris81
      @oris81 День тому

      Zurbum on Filosofem?

    • @ABHORRANCE831
      @ABHORRANCE831 День тому

      Ha!! I forgot about that. Don't think I've tried headphones as a mic since the 90s

    • @joaoantoniovione484
      @joaoantoniovione484 День тому

      I did use some 70s headphones as mics, for drum overheads, bass guitar (didn't really work out) and vocals. By the speaker's characteristics it was rather lacking in low end. But sounded cool.

    • @CrushingAxes
      @CrushingAxes День тому

      Me complaining I don't have expensive amps, Kohle just makes the perfect tone with a headphone, you're making my life any easier man =P. LoL, very cool video!

  • @nitromeda
    @nitromeda День тому +29

    For my very first recordings I used the mic of my guitar tuner (which has a line-out) into the mic-in of my parents' Sony stereo system, to record on cassette. Worked ... "magical" 😂😂😂 Edit: that was around 1995.

    • @lukasgraesslin
      @lukasgraesslin День тому +17

      Sounds like a proper black metal recording studio of the 90s.

    • @KohleAudioKult
      @KohleAudioKult  День тому +7

      Sounds like a great topic for a YT video ;)

    • @tomasolsson6493
      @tomasolsson6493 14 годин тому

      That's awesome. I wish I could hear how the recording sounded

    • @vladv5126
      @vladv5126 13 годин тому

      ​@@tomasolsson6493 you probably can with a free afternoon and like 10 bucks.

  • @beargonefission6160
    @beargonefission6160 День тому +11

    The Beyer 380 mic element was a modified headphone element. So this makes a lot of sense.

    • @KohleAudioKult
      @KohleAudioKult  День тому +2

      Great mic!

    • @tihinter
      @tihinter 15 годин тому +1

      …and absolutely overpriced today. Luckily I got one, when those were still inexpensive. Nowadays they got for 1k bucks…

  • @Ryan_Messenger
    @Ryan_Messenger День тому +7

    Not headphones but I have turned a car speaker into a kick sub mic. Works great🤘

  • @hjortoo
    @hjortoo День тому +7

    The headphone driver on the old 80s DT770/880/990 was the same as the capsule in the Beyerdynamic M380, a favorite for Steve Albini on kick drum and bass guitar. The driver in the new headphones are not the same, but similar enough to basically have the same character, only flatter. Since it is bidirectional it picks up both drumheads when you put it inside the kick drum and has a huge natural sound compared to cardioid mics. And it doesn't pick up the reflections from the shell on the sides, letting you have a wide open kick drum while still eliminating the dreaded basketball sound! Since it is bidirectional it also has an insane proximity effect, which is useful for any instrument where the low end is important.
    I built a clone from a pair of DT770s and anything else sounds flat and lifeless to me now.

    • @KohleAudioKult
      @KohleAudioKult  День тому

      The IR pack also includes M380 IRs. Great mic!

  • @jeffbridges6110
    @jeffbridges6110 День тому +3

    LoL. Awesome. I made sub mics for my kick and floor tom with an 8 & 10 inch speaker. I never NOT use them.

  • @Maddin-Kambrium
    @Maddin-Kambrium День тому +4

    Fat guitars? Bass players will hate this!
    Oh, wait, you can put a headphone in front of a bass cabinet as well... Bass players will love this!
    :-D

    • @vorpalblades
      @vorpalblades 21 годину тому

      Most bass tone sounds like shit anyway.
      Too clanky, too much distortion,barely any low-end.

    • @MadScientistGuitarLab
      @MadScientistGuitarLab 14 годин тому

      They get to use the broken half of the headphone though. 😂

  • @mrcoatsworth429
    @mrcoatsworth429 День тому +3

    Interesting! Would this work as a subkick?

    • @KohleAudioKult
      @KohleAudioKult  День тому +6

      Yes

    • @Mikey__R
      @Mikey__R День тому

      I was thinking the exact same thing!

    • @KohleAudioKult
      @KohleAudioKult  День тому +4

      @@Mikey__R It's actually a better sounding subkick. Not too boomy

  • @DongTaan112
    @DongTaan112 14 годин тому +1

    It'd have to be even more cooler if you just recorded it with dt990 live, instead of using dt990-used IR. Just as using the subkick instaed of using a subkick recorded kick sample.

  • @hoborec
    @hoborec 21 годину тому

    Such a great idea!!! Why haven’t I thought about this before 😮

  • @LIXOSonidoyDiscos
    @LIXOSonidoyDiscos 10 годин тому

    Its the best sound that I've listen with your Proffessional experience and #beyerdynamic microphones

  • @Askesis6
    @Askesis6 3 години тому

    loved when you added a little more "Oomph" in your mic mix everytime you say "oomph"

  • @AdamZiokowski666
    @AdamZiokowski666 3 години тому

    Not headphones but Heinrich submic uses a 6,5" speaker as a subkick mic and it sound amazing.

  • @BenjC1979
    @BenjC1979 Годину тому

    Cool idea and great results! How did you manage to screw the headphone driver on a mic stand?

  • @brozio77
    @brozio77 2 години тому

    for fun when i was young i have used phones as microfone but for vocals. you have done e great thing that i have to try, especially with brighter ten inch speakers.

  • @mattiabonafini4026
    @mattiabonafini4026 10 годин тому

    great idea! thanks ... what I tried and still use is a LOM Geofón ... also very nice to get some low frequencies

  • @antares4975
    @antares4975 5 годин тому

    "Whenever i need some oomph down there" I don't know man, whenever i record guitars i have loads and much too much low-end wich oomphs my mix apart

  • @rafadolny3551
    @rafadolny3551 День тому

    So earbuds are small diaphragm dynamic mics now :D

  • @bcrox
    @bcrox 4 години тому

    Massive low end on guitars is cool for jamming. But you have to cut it rite back out to get the guitars, bass & kick work together in a real mix,
    or you'll just have mud and over work the main buss & any mastering compressors etc.

  • @PaulEubanks
    @PaulEubanks 6 годин тому

    I feel like the IR loader is doing most of the heavy lifting here. Just pick any good sounding dark and bright IRs, and blend. Can use Cabinetron's auto-phase align if they're out of phase.

  • @mundainmonstre2372
    @mundainmonstre2372 9 годин тому

    My first electric guitar was an old epiphone acoustic when I was 11. I duck taped a broken headphone ear peace into the sound hole then popped the cable into the mic input of my sony boombox. Cranked that beast as loud as it could go. Boom - a life long journey was born. 30 years later I have my own home studio.

  • @slayabouts
    @slayabouts 10 годин тому

    I actually have a broken pair of those exact headphones haha. I do remember with my first cellphone before I actually got into recording and mixing, I used some ear buds to record a Skynyrd song to use as a ringtone. It objectively sounded like shit, but I made it so it sounded great
    What if you used the hi and low pass filters on Libra to make the headphone be the low end and the other one be the hi end?

  • @bradzillarocks
    @bradzillarocks 14 годин тому

    I have an old AKG set that only has 1 working side. Gotta see if I can make this happen.

  • @snowandcoal
    @snowandcoal День тому

    Yes! This was one of my favorite IRs in the pack.

  • @Harrysound
    @Harrysound Годину тому

    White background Cubase, that’s pretty old school!

    • @KohleAudioKult
      @KohleAudioKult  Годину тому

      I hate dark backgrounds. Everything looks fuckin grey in grey these days. Terrible! 😇

  • @kenhomeier8629
    @kenhomeier8629 21 годину тому

    Thjis is why I follow this channel. Hey, Here's some cool ideas to try for free or here's the same thing that we recorded if you want to buy the pack I love it.

  • @riangarianga
    @riangarianga День тому

    Haha, that was cool!
    It brought me memories of my teen years, when together with my friends we taped our own «radio programs», and I was the only one with a microphone, so we got a set of Aiwa headband headphones from our walkman, and thanks to the magic of minijack Y doublers we had a full «studio». 😂

  • @CrushingAxes
    @CrushingAxes День тому

    I tried using a AKG 414p once, but didn't work at all, didn't spend a lot of time trying to find the perfect spot, but it's definitely a very cool idea to add some textures!

  • @HollywoodRecordingStudio
    @HollywoodRecordingStudio День тому

    I did find this headphone method is awesome for bass or kick.
    I’m finding that too much low end on the guitar masks the bass and kick drum.

  • @badagon
    @badagon 3 години тому

    But we use ribbon mics :)

  • @bradleyberdahl6148
    @bradleyberdahl6148 День тому

    THATS FUCKIN COOL BRO!!!!!!!!

  • @dremcfleuve
    @dremcfleuve 4 години тому

    I never manage to make a sound I like with a sm57 and a huge cab with V30 but somehow I managed to get something I like with a 15w practice amp and a karaoke microphone

    • @KohleAudioKult
      @KohleAudioKult  3 години тому

      That means either you do something completely wrong or you are special! 🤘❤️

  • @JordonBeal
    @JordonBeal 15 годин тому

    Beyer M260’s are very unironically my favorite ride mic ever. Seriously, they’re insane in that application, if a bit extravagant.

  • @yonikessler1912
    @yonikessler1912 18 годин тому

    I have a broken pair of AKG k553's that I used on a VO session for a small documentary during a drive through scene where we had to redo the dialogue for a fast food worker coming out of a drive through speaker and the headphones + some light distortion was PERFECT.

    • @KohleAudioKult
      @KohleAudioKult  15 годин тому

      I almost made a joke about AKG headphones in the video. Because one side of every pair I used in my career died at some point.😮‍💨

  • @m.a.6478
    @m.a.6478 День тому

    Looking at my headphone with rotating ear cups... then at my rack with the big amp... which directly feeds into a reactive load, no cab anywhere.

    • @vorpalblades
      @vorpalblades 21 годину тому

      I could never record without a cabinet.

  • @mrparkinson
    @mrparkinson 19 годин тому

    Hey Kohle, did you get a chance to try the headphone mic on a kick? Seems like it might be cool outside of the kick, like a subkick.

    • @KohleAudioKult
      @KohleAudioKult  15 годин тому

      Not yet. But that’s exactly the plan!

  • @flapjack413
    @flapjack413 День тому

    Why ruin a pair of headphones, only to capture sound that's going to get high passed out anyway? Seems kinda dumb IMO.

    • @KohleAudioKult
      @KohleAudioKult  День тому +2

      I did NOT recommend to treasure your headphones apart!
      Use headphones with only one side working or just get our IRs 😜

  • @PaddyMacNabh
    @PaddyMacNabh День тому

    Great sound from the headphone. 👍 I had an old Sennheiser HD540 which worked really well. It has 300 ohms impedance. If you want to go completely crazy then try the Yamaha Subkick. The Subkick hasn't got a very detailed sound but killer if you work with subzero tuned guitars 😁

    • @KohleAudioKult
      @KohleAudioKult  День тому

      I actually used to have the Subkick on guitar cabs, I feel theat the headphopnes to a better job though.

  • @MadScientistGuitarLab
    @MadScientistGuitarLab 14 годин тому

    I really like knowing that something I would have done in desperation as a teen has become the secret sauce for beefy tone in your studio.

    • @KohleAudioKult
      @KohleAudioKult  9 годин тому

      That’s how legendary tones are born 😇

  • @crock2434
    @crock2434 День тому

    Would you be recording in mono ? Only using 1 side ov the phones?

    • @KohleAudioKult
      @KohleAudioKult  День тому

      Of course. Guitars are usually recorded in mono.

  • @chickenlickin3820
    @chickenlickin3820 День тому

    why not an ns10 woofer lol

    • @KohleAudioKult
      @KohleAudioKult  День тому

      I never liked the traditional subkicks for some reason. I have the new version from Yamaha.

  • @BlondPanda
    @BlondPanda 22 години тому

    Would be super interested in hearing what the headphone-mic would sound like in front of a kick drum. I assume not quite as low-end heavy as your usual sub-kick but it might work as a thick kick-out mic?

    • @vorpalblades
      @vorpalblades 21 годину тому

      A 6" to 10" speaker would be a better choice.

    • @KohleAudioKult
      @KohleAudioKult  15 годин тому

      I’ll try that asap!

  • @JGStonedRaider
    @JGStonedRaider 11 годин тому

    Got a pair of DT990 pro's on my head right now...must not pull them apart :/

    • @KohleAudioKult
      @KohleAudioKult  9 годин тому +1

      I’m sorry! 😎😇

    • @JGStonedRaider
      @JGStonedRaider 8 годин тому

      @@KohleAudioKult I can just mix in mono ;)

    • @KohleAudioKult
      @KohleAudioKult  Годину тому

      @@JGStonedRaider Right! Who needs stereo anyway 🥳

  • @Sylkis89
    @Sylkis89 День тому

    Hey, Kristian! Can you review using some specific bass speakers in guitar cabs? People online recommend Celestion BN12-300S, Eminence Basslite S2012, Eminence Deltalite II 2512, Beyma 12G40, 12" vintage CTS, and 12" Peavey Black Widow, and there's surely more I am not aware of. These often have response graphs similar to guitar speakers, but can handle the excursion and wattage needed for bass - though a graph is not enough to know what to expect irl. I’ve seen them used in setups with a modeller + poweramp + DIY cab, or for high-gain guitar and bass in home studios, or for Doom/Shoegaze. Quilter, Zilla, and Barefaced use them in guitar cabs. I think it's a cool idea to explore as an alternative to the boring V30 and/or Greenback standard. I wonder how well - from your perspective - they perform with high-gain guitar tones (possibly with a 10-band EQ in the effects loop), as well as bass tones where you mix a miced cab track with a bass cab IR track. Could you test each speaker individually and in blends, and compare closed vs. open cabs, and 2x12 vs. 4x12 configurations? Dr. Decibel from Celestion support confirmed it’s safe to use the BN12-300S this way, and I've seen people successfully use the Eminence models, not to mention vintage CTS being common in old Fender combo amps.

    • @KohleAudioKult
      @KohleAudioKult  День тому +1

      I once did a 10" bass speaker comparison video, but not for guitars. Check the bass playlist for that one. Bass speakers usually have too much high end for distorted guitars.

    • @Sylkis89
      @Sylkis89 День тому

      ​​@@KohleAudioKultthe Celestions and Eminences I mentioned are actually usually told to be dark for a lot of guitarists who want to have shine and sparkle from their telecasters ;) but metalheads usually praise them. So hence I was hoping to get a big UA-camr with a capacity to have some gear rotation to try it out, as it's difficult to go by anecdotes online, and it's very expensive for a bedroom playing hobbyist, haha! I have actually already decided on getting a BN12-300S for my 2x12 cab, but I still need to decide whether the other speaker will be another BN12-300S or one of the Eminence models, or something yet else. Anyway, I think it would be a really awesome idea for a video!

    • @riangarianga
      @riangarianga День тому +1

      I have a BN12-300S and it sounds great, but you might lose more high end than you expect. An A-Type is also warm and dark, if you're after that, I love that speaker, alhough it might have less bass. You can find plenty of examples of these two on UA-cam, both of them are sort of vintagey. I liked how Thevon or the guys at Zilla Cabs got great results out of the A-Type in the videos on their channels. The latter guys also tested the BN12-300S, but I can't recall if they used high gain.
      I believe the Hempback would be also extreme in this warmness game, but I never tried one.
      What about building and tuning a crossover circuit where you just filter out the high end, and using the speaker you have now? It's cheaper than trying dark speakers, and unlike the EQ pedal it would act after the power amp.

    • @Sylkis89
      @Sylkis89 День тому +1

      ​@@riangariangaboth Celestion BN12-300S and Eminence Deltalite II 2512 are often suggested as lightweight (as in physically, neodymium, easier to carry a cab) alternatives to EVM12L. I was wondering how coupling them in one cab would work. What I'm after is speakers that will allow me to use my Hughes & Kettner Switchblade 2x12 combo both for high gain baritone guitar and for bass recording at a small hobbyist home studio.

    • @vorpalblades
      @vorpalblades 21 годину тому +1

      I use a full range 15", never found one that sounds good for guitar.
      10" bass speakers can sound good.
      I used to play through a Hartke Transient Attack cab with 4 10" aluminum cone drivers. That sounded great.
      Burned up in an apartment fire though.

  • @tomix1970pl1
    @tomix1970pl1 День тому +1

    Cool but I will not destroy my headphones.Sorry...

    • @KohleAudioKult
      @KohleAudioKult  День тому +3

      Just get the IRs, much safer

    • @mrcoatsworth429
      @mrcoatsworth429 День тому +1

      @@tomix1970pl1 well, he specifically said you can do this with your defective headphones, not working ones.