I wish there could be some innovative advancement in primer production. I can't imagine all these reloading equipment companies think people are going to just keep buying there products if you can't get components to use there products.
I loaded thousands of rounds on a Lee turret press and then I bought a Dillon XL 750 with all the bells and whistles. All I can say is, I wish I would’ve bought one sooner. Unfortunately, with the increase prices of powder and primer’s, I’m selling everything. Before I sell, I have to finish loading up 10,000 rounds.
My theory is with different brand cases, both softer and harder, the “independent” free float may benefit in better concentricity. But I need to hear more to justify the $100 plus shipping.
I have 3 of the free float tool heads and most of the Armanov upgrades on my 750. My issue is I don't trust the consistency of the free float for sizing and bullet seating. it seems like if you are measuring to .001 or .0005 it will be hard to keep it consistent. I want to use them as I really like to concept but i am trying to only change one variable at a time in my hand loading journey. If the movement is typical and not an issue that takes away from consistent sizing and seating depth then I am all for this system. I rate the tool head a 5/5 as well as everything else Armanov
I ran into the same problem but solved it by testing stations 1 and 2 with a shell in battery. I updated the springs and bearing and a roller on my guide rod. I always keep my eye on the last 2 rounds in a run to make sure they don't vary without shells in battery in the stations. I use them on the 10 calibers I load for. They are great for the competitions I'm in.
@brazilcabo8850 so you are saying you have cases is 1(deprime/resize) and 2(prime/powder charge) while you seat in 4 and crimp in 5? So the load on the shell plate is evenly distributed?
@jeffeaston6908 Exactly. That's how I was able to get consistent seating depth. I found the powder die to be tricky. It's easy to say it would not interfere, but it totally does. I have tested each station and found they will impact seating depth a little bit individually and partially, and when all station are full. It's important to know your machine. It's a pain at first, but now it's a second nature, and the precison is worth it to me. I documented for my kids to be aware off, so they know what to do when I am not around.
Regardless, Armanov stuff is awesome. I have so much of their stuff. And these videos really help me with my purchasing decisions. Whether or not it's worth it, how it works, how to install, etc. Awesome content and products.
why do you have to hold onto the bullet all the way up to the die? is your case belling (on a rifle round) different than the belling on a handgun case? Thanks
Interesting, I have an almost 40 year old 550, and have never done any upgrades to it. But that toolhead setup does look nice. Now what I want to know is how do you lube your cases for sizing before you toss them in that feeder?
Mine is kind of the same way. I don't like keeping the lock ring on the bottom of the tool head. There really isnt a good solution. I wish they made a low profile tool head or something.
I mean they make the one for cutter dies but I didn't know this would be an issue until after I got mine. Gonna have a friend with a mill cut mine down some so it'll work as designed.
Sorry - but they certainly DO need upgrade(S) to work smooth & flawlessly. And Armanov delivers PHENOMOUSLY upgrades for Dillon. Sorry to say - but true... Dont be blind - see the possibilities instead... 👍🤓🔍 - Armanov rocks - Maybe the reason even Gavin gives them time in his phantastic and valuable videos... 🤔👍👋💪😃
I agree with Chesnutlouie. I ran a 550B for 20 years before I started playing around with 3rd party updates. Need? Not really. 3rd party parts & accessories certainly enhance a handloader’s experience. I do applaud Arminov’s innovations, and have applied his accessories to my 550’s and 650.
They DO need upgrades. Example is short powder bar if you want to use bullet feeder on XL750. Floating system works fantastic for me. Also she'll plate with bearings is much smoother, no powder spill.
@@tnapierala those are all add ons though. If you want more than what it does out of the box, you need those things, which is fine. You don’t NEED those things for the press to work well though. I personally don’t use any add ons and love mine.
Iv wonderd about the side lockig screw on lock ring. The conventional ones will mess up my work i leave em loose. Guessing u get better consistentency seating iftool head has less play? And still line up right?
Why do Dillons need so many upgrades ???? What hasn’t Dillon upgraded their press designs? Legacy costs of their warranty prohibits innovation and change.
Every press out there has aftermarket stuff made for them. Dillon presses work great and definitely have the best warranty. Fortunately I live 20 minutes from them in Scottsdale and every time I go in there and ask about something that needs to be addressed they hand me parts for free with no paperwork or questions. I broke the ring indexer and in less then an hour I was back up and running after a trip to their office. I'm mot a fanboy but they are a good company.
They’re not really upgrades. The original parts they replace work and work well. However, there is always someone out there who’s going to want to tweak their machines.
I have been using these for a year, and I love them! They work great.
Thanks, Gavin 👍
I wish there could be some innovative advancement in primer production. I can't imagine all these reloading equipment companies think people are going to just keep buying there products if you can't get components to use there products.
I am using the free float system at my Dillon 650. Loving it 🎉
I loaded thousands of rounds on a Lee turret press and then I bought a Dillon XL 750 with all the bells and whistles. All I can say is, I wish I would’ve bought one sooner. Unfortunately, with the increase prices of powder and primer’s, I’m selling everything. Before I sell, I have to finish loading up 10,000 rounds.
My theory is with different brand cases, both softer and harder, the “independent” free float may benefit in better concentricity. But I need to hear more to justify the $100 plus shipping.
I have 3 of the free float tool heads and most of the Armanov upgrades on my 750. My issue is I don't trust the consistency of the free float for sizing and bullet seating. it seems like if you are measuring to .001 or .0005 it will be hard to keep it consistent. I want to use them as I really like to concept but i am trying to only change one variable at a time in my hand loading journey.
If the movement is typical and not an issue that takes away from consistent sizing and seating depth then I am all for this system. I rate the tool head a 5/5 as well as everything else Armanov
I ran into the same problem but solved it by testing stations 1 and 2 with a shell in battery. I updated the springs and bearing and a roller on my guide rod. I always keep my eye on the last 2 rounds in a run to make sure they don't vary without shells in battery in the stations. I use them on the 10 calibers I load for. They are great for the competitions I'm in.
@brazilcabo8850 so you are saying you have cases is 1(deprime/resize) and 2(prime/powder charge) while you seat in 4 and crimp in 5? So the load on the shell plate is evenly distributed?
@jeffeaston6908 Exactly. That's how I was able to get consistent seating depth. I found the powder die to be tricky. It's easy to say it would not interfere, but it totally does. I have tested each station and found they will impact seating depth a little bit individually and partially, and when all station are full. It's important to know your machine. It's a pain at first, but now it's a second nature, and the precison is worth it to me. I documented for my kids to be aware off, so they know what to do when I am not around.
I'm using a uniquetek locking screw kit with the Dillon tool head. It works but that setup looks better
Curious, why bother free float the powder drop?
Actually, why bother free float anything but the bullet seater?
Regardless, Armanov stuff is awesome. I have so much of their stuff. And these videos really help me with my purchasing decisions. Whether or not it's worth it, how it works, how to install, etc. Awesome content and products.
Concentricity I believe is the aim of free float. But I’d like the data to show (perhaps in another video that’s already out there).
why do you have to hold onto the bullet all the way up to the die? is your case belling (on a rifle round) different than the belling on a handgun case? Thanks
Interesting, I have an almost 40 year old 550, and have never done any upgrades to it. But that toolhead setup does look nice. Now what I want to know is how do you lube your cases for sizing before you toss them in that feeder?
I use Dillon spray lube on the brass before putting them into the case feeder.
Why float the powder measure?
It's also flare
Great upgrade, except my 223 sizing die is threaded down so far it doesnt have enough exposed threads to use the lock ring.
Mine is kind of the same way. I don't like keeping the lock ring on the bottom of the tool head. There really isnt a good solution. I wish they made a low profile tool head or something.
I mean they make the one for cutter dies but I didn't know this would be an issue until after I got mine. Gonna have a friend with a mill cut mine down some so it'll work as designed.
Dillon presses do not need upgrading. You may choose to add “bells and whistles” to your Dillon press if you want.
Sorry - but they certainly DO need upgrade(S) to work smooth & flawlessly. And Armanov delivers PHENOMOUSLY upgrades for Dillon. Sorry to say - but true...
Dont be blind - see the possibilities instead... 👍🤓🔍 - Armanov rocks - Maybe the reason even Gavin gives them time in his phantastic and valuable videos... 🤔👍👋💪😃
I’m not sure about that. Lee presses NEED upgrading. I haven’t added much at all to my Dillion and have been using it a lot.
I agree with Chesnutlouie. I ran a 550B for 20 years before I started playing around with 3rd party updates. Need? Not really. 3rd party parts & accessories certainly enhance a handloader’s experience. I do applaud Arminov’s innovations, and have applied his accessories to my 550’s and 650.
They DO need upgrades. Example is short powder bar if you want to use bullet feeder on XL750. Floating system works fantastic for me. Also she'll plate with bearings is much smoother, no powder spill.
@@tnapierala those are all add ons though. If you want more than what it does out of the box, you need those things, which is fine. You don’t NEED those things for the press to work well though. I personally don’t use any add ons and love mine.
Iv wonderd about the side lockig screw on lock ring. The conventional ones will mess up my work i leave em loose. Guessing u get better consistentency seating iftool head has less play? And still line up right?
Pretty similar to the floating toolhead offered by Whidden Gunworks
If the dies needs floating why not just leave the tool head floating as is?
Because floating dies allow for every station to have tome play, not entire tool head. Much smoother 😊
I like the setup superb just a question do you not lubricate with sizing wax when sizing as that is standard practice
Regular bar soap is good as sizing wax. Less "oil dings " not as clingy as wax ..Just spin the rim on a dry bar of soap
Looks nice
And to think that we are making fun of Lee and his… floating press turrets.
Take the backfire challenge please
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Why do Dillons need so many upgrades ????
What hasn’t Dillon upgraded their press designs?
Legacy costs of their warranty prohibits innovation and change.
Every press out there has aftermarket stuff made for them. Dillon presses work great and definitely have the best warranty. Fortunately I live 20 minutes from them in Scottsdale and every time I go in there and ask about something that needs to be addressed they hand me parts for free with no paperwork or questions. I broke the ring indexer and in less then an hour I was back up and running after a trip to their office.
I'm mot a fanboy but they are a good company.
But still there's gaps for improvement - and they unfortunately are (a bit) conservative at Dillon... 😢😂
They’re not really upgrades. The original parts they replace work and work well. However, there is always someone out there who’s going to want to tweak their machines.
@@patrickvernacchio7540 - Test'em and your opinion will change - if you dare... 😂
... Please check the powder charge...
NEVER just trust and go on... ,😬💥🤯💣
Not even you Gavin... 🙏🏻🙄 Our God when it comes to reloading... 😃
Calling him a god is pretty strange.
Everything OK with you fella?