That Geneva is the cultural capital of Switzerland, and New York is the cultural capital of the United States, I think comparing the two in a video, "Geneva vs New York, from a cultural point of view/with a cultural view", would be one-of-a-kind among the myriad of "Switzerland vs United States" videos that can be found throughout UA-cam.
I live in Zurich as well and moved here from the US. For me it's 1) safety, 2) transportation 3) general higher standard of living for everyone (including waiters!). You're not stepping over homeless people on the way to work and feeling generally crappy that so many people don't have the basics in life.
Question, I have been following Switzerland for a few years and even visited there in the fall of 2019. From your experience, what is the best way for people to get a visa? Are they mostly work-related sponsorships?
I totally understand your comment about the homeless people. I currently live in California and we have 42% of the countries homeless here it’s overwhelming.
@@roseforeuropa there are many ways to get a visa, and easier if you're already an EU citizen. but the key is to have a job here. Many expats come on work sponsored visas and they're able to live well with good salaries. Since it's so expensive here, you will have a hard time if you don't already have a job.
@@tomascunha7825 saving money, while working on minimum salary/wage, is difficult in any country; in Switzerland, specifically, the costs of living are among the highest in the World, which means, working on minimum wage could barely afford you to cover/pay for your expenses (just) to survive.
Heyy guys, been watching your videos for few days now as we’re coming to Zurich in June!!! Cant wait !! Hope to see u around there and maybe u guys can tour us around😅jk!
I'm from Seattle. When I was younger I went to Austria for a month. I spent that month eating bread slathered with Nutella and butter, pizza, McDonalds, schnitzel, gelato, and tons and tons of chocolate. I also drank beer, wine, and other assorted liquors. I was a tourist so I walked a lot but other than that I didn't really do any exercise. And when I got home I found I had LOST 15 pounds! European food is just different than American food. I don't know what most of the stuff is in American food but it's definitely a lot harder to lose weight here.
Pure nonsense at its best. US food is just as good as Swiss food but it depends on what you are eating. US prefers freedom and choice so it is up to you.
I also find the transportation system here very impressive and punctual. And going around even up in the alps is also hassle free. Being almost at the heart of Europe, Rome and Paris are easily accessible even by train.
Great video, as a Swiss I can agree with everything but the tipping culture thing. It is considered polite standard to tip at least 10% (going up to 15% and very rarely 20%) even though noone specifically asks for it. Pretty much everyone I know does it like that.
Hello! it's amazing! It's wonderful video! Switzerland is a wonderful place! Thank you for your wonderful talk and information! It's wonderful! Nice upload! And it's great high quality video! I really like it! Thank you for sharing! Have a nice week!
I’m a genuine Swiss and i own my own apartment in the east part of Switzerland, it’s cheaper for me to pay off a mortgage than rent an apartment. If you can afford to buy an apartment, you are better off than paying rent. I have a new top quality apartment, not talking about the dearest, just the quality of how the apartment was built, triple glazed windows, floor heating and more.
@@tomascunha7825 Yes, if you know how to be frugal within the swiss system. Healthcare premiums vary from 280 to 500 CHF per month even for young people (all options provide the same excellent care). Bike instead of car, flatshare and cooking at home instead of eating out are ways to save lots of money.
@@tomascunha7825 there is actually no minimum wage in general in switzerland. but neuchatel was actually the first "kanton" to implement it locally. 20Sfr per hour time 40 times 4 is like monthly salary which only leads to 3600Sfr a month. depending on the working field you get 13 monthly salaries a year, but i dont think that applies to minimum wage jobs, but i dont know. but its fair to assume that you pay atleast 2 month salary worth on taxes, so thats 600 gone there, you end up with 3000Sfr. social services pay around 2600Sfr a month for a person that does not work at all. so minimum wage is only 400Fr more than doing nothing and from that money you have to pay for the travel to work and the food while being out. at the end as a swiss person you end up even worse than on social security with such a bad minimum wage. so i think 20 is not a fair / good enough minimum wage, but thats just my opinion. but to your question, you can save 300-500Fr a month if you really want / have to even on that wage, but then you have no expenses like holidays, trips, smoking or any other things.
Do you have to pay "tax" for having an apartment? Is your apartment considered as a rent possibility and you have to pay for it's space/size/number of rooms?
i too love Switzerland! i have been there many time and still looking forward to my next visit. Aside from the very nice lifestyle and quality of food there is that our partner is Swiss! thumbs up to everyone having Swiss partner! looking forward to your new uploads! Lg -MAY
Wow! We loved that you put this together. We left NYC and always think about how special it is and how it has a special place in our hearts. We love so many places around the world and there is so much to see and do. NYC does have its downfalls like you mentioned about trains which is the worst part! Tipping is a thing just a part of US culture, but with NYC being such a congested city there are so many restaurants and so many opportunities in the service industry. Great list! We enjoyed your whole video!
We spend a lot of money on our train lines, roads etc to keep them in good order. The vignette (sticker) for your car to be allowed to use the Autobahns is Sfr. 40 per year. Not expensive at all.
Thanks for sharing, it was very interesting to see your perspective. I appreciate the amount of thought and agreed with everything you said. I've lived in the U.S for 15 years. My husband has worked in Geneva Switzerland and we have a small place in Nyon. But I also live in my home country UK. People in Switzerland have beautiful manners also. I laughed when you mentioned the cheese it is truly epic x
Hi, Love your enthusiasm and obvious love for the place. I'm a Scot married to a half-Swiss lass and we live near Edinburgh in Scotland but {normally} regularly visit family back in Kanton Schaffhausen. I've been lucky enough to live within a Swiss family setting { the family were farmers} and experience being immersed in the true culture of the country { which you never really get as a tourist, right?} Lucky too over the last thirty five years to have travelled extensively across the country. I love the german variant used by the family which to me relates very much to my native Scots language in relation to English. I feel a real affinity with it. I admire much about the Swiss - the fierce independence, the sense of pride in community and personal responsibility that the country seems to have fostered very successfully, the fact that it's primarily a safe, clean and cared for environment and the fact that all the pubic transport links so effectively together to get you anywhere so pleasureably and efficiently you can do without a car. Like you we're big fans of the cheese and eating well but relatively inexpensively in a restaurant like in a Migros or buying the sandwiches etc you've mentioned. I'm thoroughly enjoying the videos and the perspective. Hoped to get back last month but regulations just prevented it. Thankfully my wife got there last week to spend time with her elderly aunt. Hopefully I'll make it in the next couple of months and can walk through the forest from the house to the Rhinefall once again. Keep up the good work. Subscribed!
Thank you so much for commenting and for sharing your story/experience with Switzerland! Hopefully you'll make it back here soon! If you ever have any particular videos you'd like to request (or recommendations!) please let me know :)
Nice to hear about the differences between the two countries. I always wanted to try living in NYC 😁, but on the other hand we cant leave Europe behind. We def see ourselves living in Switserland. My fav would be the smooth public transportation over there. And the beautiful nature 🤗
It was definitely something different - I was in NYC public school in 5th grade during 9/11 and ever since that moment the types of drills and preps we would have was quite intense for our age I think
Been enjoying this channel...got to visit a few times for work (Basel, Zurich, Bienne, Bern, Lucern, Gruyere, Montreaux) was wondering if you mentioned how the salaries compare, and how hard would it be for a non-Swiss person to get a job there?
Wage levels are pretty high, depending on the job. Given that you have a skill that is needed, it's not that hard to move to Switzerland. We have one of the highest rates of skilled immigration in the world.
Let’s just say, you are very, very lucky. You have lived in the most vibrant City in the world and now reside in on of the most picturesque. Think positive and positive things happen 👍🌈🙏
In Geneva i walked to the Kindergarden (i was 4 to 5 years old) all alone, almost 1Km, having to cross a road, and even walk 300m in a desert alley, and i never ever even felt any kind of fear, outside my home was like inside my home, this is Switzerland: you home is beyond your walls, the whole nation is your home:) (it was in the 60s, ... nowadays i would feel a bit less confident as a parent)
Thank you for watching! I work in advertising and production for a large media company! Finance, insurance, biotech, and engineering are all big sectors in Switzerland. I know they have a shortage of skilled engineers, so a lot of visas are granted for that specifically
@@lifeandmorechannel2987 I'm in an unusual situation - I still work for my employer in NYC but work remotely - but in general yes it can be really tricky to break into the Swiss job market as a non-Swiss
I'm so happy for you two that you found a great place for you two to live. I agree with you about New York City. I've traveled to New York City but nowhere else that I have been in the United States has the problems that New York does. From my experience, If the service is terrible in the US you don't tip 15%. You might even tip 0%. That is the point of tipping. I've not been around schools in New York but I know the high school I went to in Arizona is still an open campus except at night when they are closed. You may actually be able to do a similar comparison video of NYC compared to New Mexico or Arizona or Nevada. NYC is not similar to anywhere.
Love your channel! I wonder if you could share more about how you and your husband met, your story of how you handled long distance, and how you found the transition for your career in a new country. I am originally from America, currently I live in the UK and I'm in a long-distance relationship with my boyfriend based in Switzerland. It would be so helpful to hear your point of view!
I love that you're not bitching about high prices, instead appreciate the safety, reliability and cleanliness. If you're interested there was a Swiss documentary on trash collection a while ago. It's amazing what these men and women do to keep our streets litter-free because we do have ignorant people who leave their beer bottles, cans and face masks everywhere.
Thank you for watching! I'll look into the document, sounds interesting - and I'm sure my husband would love it! Of course prices are high here, but so are the salaries! The quality of life here in my opinion is 100% aligned with the prices of goods and services in Switzerland so I don't consider it a negative at all!
@@TheTravelingSwiss well then you and your husband must have a really well paying job because as far as i'm concerned , a family of 3 living with a total income of 5000 francs and not always sometimes even less, the fixed costs of rent and health insurance transportation and now sadly childcare... we are broke before the month ends ans we never have emergency money for all the emergency crap that happens every once in a while. He has a broken tooth that needs fixing. He broke it 7 months ago. It will take us 2 years to save up 3000 francs to fix his tooth. So i rlly dont know how many ppl get by here... but god damn it. Im rlly exhausted. And as i say. Child care especially after school care is soo damn expensive. If i get a full time job i will pay triple what i pay now in order to have the same amount of money not to mention the extremely high taxes they take monthly off your salary. From 3700 fr to 2700!! God damn it. Only taxes. Yeah.. im glad youre in a good place but sadly it is not the case for many. And switzerland over prices ALOT of things that are the same quality elsewhere. Pcr 160 fr? What a rip off!!!!!!!!!! I am only glad electricity is cheap and hot water exists here. Coming from a country where these were luxury for me even if we paid extra,they werent available. But otjer than that? Night Transportation in smaller towns and early transport is NOT available. I had to turn down a job becaise there is no train to get me thrre by 6 am. They boast and boast and yet, there are basic necesscitirs that truly need to be looked at!! Child care !!! Is SOOOOOOOOOOOOO damn expensive my god!!!! If you have 2 kids and you need to put them in childcare because u dont have family to look after them u can forget it!! Sorry im just really frustrated because im just tired of being literally penniless 2 weeks into every pay check. I spent my last 5 cents today and i have to borrow money just to het food until i get paid again in 2 weeks. Oh well..
@@novemberrain2184 lol switzerland actually has one of the lowest tax rates worldwide… and public transportation is one of the best here. believe it or not, at least there are trains and busses to the small towns, unlike in other countries. most of the other countries don‘t have public transportation through the night too.
@@tobimael i disagree. It doesnt have the best public transport. One of the worst iv seen. I had to turn down a job in another town because it startd at 5 am and guess what!!! No transport available :). Should i pay 100 francs for private cab to get me to work? Also , i cnt count the nb of times i had to WALK 50 minutes back home from work at 12 am because there werent any more busses to take me. I dont have a driver license. I wont get a car because its also too expensive to maintain . So how exactly is the gov encouragin ppl to use transport if its not available. Not to mention train rides ?? Hell. Insane. 100 fr per person for a 1.5 hour ride.
The school thing is so true. Like the only time there was a "fence" around school was in kindergarden, however that was more to keep the children inside because we were allowed to roam there pretty freely and run around etc and because there was a small shopping centre right next to it there were quite a few cars. Later in elementary school we could technically just walk on and off the schoolyard (we were not allowed to though) and in the evenings you would often find teenagers on the soccerfield just playing and it wasnt a problem at all. (Oh, and the yellow "warn/light vest" thing (we called that "lüchtsgi", meaning light-thing) was only worn by kindergardeners (age 5 and 6) and many would walk alone/with friends or sometimes with parents. In elementary school you would really really rarely go with your parents. So yea, thats great, and as a child you feel really proud to be allowed to wear the vest and go to kindergarden alone. (Oh, and most would walk to school or take a kickboard or later on bike, up to 12th grade. Or later public transport, and rarely by car)
Thank you very much for this lovely and informative video. I am planning to move to Switzerland soon. I started learning French. I started educating myself about Swiss Culture. I also would love to marry a Swiss gentleman (they are handsome 🥰). ♥️
It is true that the standard of living in Switzerland is very high but the country offers all the comforts and facilities necessary to feel good in this country, added to this also the mentality of people who are always smiling 😀
There is nothing in Switzerland that can compare to NYC. NYC is not for everybody and I am not personality cut out for it. I do love the odd trip there and visiting family but that is it. The difference between Switzerland and NYC can be huge for many people. New State on the other hand has far more in common with Switzerland. New York State has some stunningly beautiful places. New York state is about 3 times larger than Switzerland. Houses are cheaper in New York State.
Thank you very much for your very interesting video :-)! I think what I like most in CH is that as a CH-citizen I have a say in how the State /Kantons invest my taxes, hence I have no problem paying them because I see what they give me for them :-)
Good quality food is very important to us. We cook mostly fresh food. Not much processed stuff. Only in “emergencies” 😅 for example, our bread has no added sugar 🤷🏻♀️
Yes! It makes shopping so much easier, I just trust that everything will be of a higher quality without being loaded with processed refined sugar and preservatives
When you are talking about garbage, that’s why we pay Sfr. 2 per bag for the council to collect your household rubbish, all the other stuff like cardboard, glass, paper, pet bottles, aluminium, styrofoam, tin cans, metal things, plastic bottles like for shampoo, washing liquid can be recycled. Things like used batteries, old shoes, old clothing, broken small electrical appliances, cds, plus more can be deposited at your recycling centre.
Thank you for sharing. Great to hear about the positive things☺️I’m considering to relocate to Switzerland for better education & living for my kids, checking some international schools there.
The most important reason you live in Switzerland is your other half....you are very lucky finding the perfect partner... The rest I thing are only details 😂❤️😊
Great video. Thank you for the information. I visited Germany and Switzerland just over two years ago and I felt a lot safer in those countries and their cities versus my own country of the United States. I am interested in expatting in the next 10 years after I retire and am exploring different countries.
It is not only the 40 chf for the sticker, The gasoline is taxed (about 0.80 chf per Liter, 3.50 chf per gallon). and all the tax money goes to roadwork.
US has states with no sales taxes and still have stunning roads. Sales tax does not guarantee better roads as there are states with high sales tax and have inferior roads.
@@bighands69 my point is rather that Switzerland has a plan how roads and road works are funded nation wide without lets say the majority of the funding not going to the right places . With flawless roads in the whole country. What you are pointing out that that is not the case in the US. And if the only point of yours is to degrade Switzerland. please travel your own country and please travel abroad. Before you make statements of relations you have no clue about. Exposure is education.
@@TheTravelingSwiss it is for sure. But after watching the video I am concerned about American public transport, because I could complain about the quality of the SBB.
The Traveling Swiss - Alexis & Louis- i'm an american. when i go to a real estate website to check out homes, they dont look appealing. how is the house selection there?
Can you live without a car in Switzerland and just use public transportation? Or maybe if you have one, do you need to use it the whole time like here in the US? (I live in the suburbs so we can’t do anything without cars and really hate that) also, what about the healthcare system? Is it free? Or you need to pay insurance? Thank you.😊
Depends on where you live, when we lived in Zurich for 2 years we did not have a car and had no issues! We live in Geneva now but Louis doesn’t use the car to commute (he takes trams or bikes) we have it mostly for the weekends or when we need to drive somewhere with our baby. Health insurance is not free and unfortunately quite expensive
Can you order food from the Migros and have it sent to the United States? There are some items I miss that they don’t have now that I don’t live in Switzerland.
Hi Jacob! I'm not sure, but I don't think so unfortunately - I think your best bet would be to have someone in Switzerland buy it for you and send it to the states. Thanks for watching!
When I went to France to see friends, they showed me their highschools and I was like "yoooo, is this a prison ?? Why do they have those huge fences ?" "Wait, you don't have those is Switzerland ?" Well...
I don't feel like we have absoluetly no tipping culture. Actually in my place of living in Switzerland it is quite common to give a little tip over the price even if prices are service included. When you eat for dinner for example and you spend maybe let's say 120.- for 2 persons with wine or something like that and you end up giving absolutely no tip then you're telling the waiter in the subtext that something was reeeeally NOT ok with the meal either the service or the meal it self. To give no tip at all anytime is really not a common practice in switzerland. But... you don't have to thats correct. Nobody can expect it from you 100% or force you to. But we have for sure far more of a tipping culture than they have in italy or spain or so..
Hard Cheeses (extrahart, hart, halbhart) cheeses are naturally lactose-free. So, you can enjoy all the Raclette, Gruyere, Grana Padano, Manchego, Parmesan, Appenzeller, Emmentaler, Sbrinz, etc. to your heart's desire and you won't have any digestive problems. Avoid all soft cheeses.
When I visited Switzerland there was an election going on which nicely contrasted with the politicking I experienced in Switzerland. The political signs were all of a uniform and modest size. There was candidates forum where major candidates held forth to talk with individual citizens. Money did not intrude through huge signage and commercials blaring out talking points. It was all so much more civilized. From talking the the Swiss, I found that the whole contribution of money thing was not present, much less dominant. Switzerland gives meaning to how dysfunctional the whole money is speech thing of American law is.
7:04 You're a bit over reacting here. Everything foreward from 3min is considered delayed and will be called out and shown on the information boards and in the app. But even in Switzerland 1min or 2min delay is considered on time and will not be called out nor shown on the information boards or in the app.
I can swear I’ve seen the 2 min delayed notices but maybe not! Either way my overreaction comes from a good place - just really Impressed with Switzerland’s train system! :)
Most European countries don't allow genetically altered foods. They probably have better pure-food laws in general than the US and don't seem to be fans of American-type junk foods. I don't think the Europeans have a pill for every ill like we do in America, and they tend to use more natural remedies, instead of drugs. And, the practical Swiss are probably less glued to their devices, so more physically active. Also, Switzerland has TEN TIMES less man-made electromagnetic frequencies than what is allowed in the US. So, there are many reasons why one's health would improve after moving to Switzerland.
I would not want too live in any country,no matter how wealthy,where people do not say good morning too you or give a damn whether you exist or not.Switzerland is my idea of absolute loneliness.
You obviously have never talked to your parents to see how America was before you were born we were able to walk to school there wasn't crime like there is today you had people that cared most people that came from Europe wanted to be American and they cared about New York and we could walk and we could play outside and we didn't have to wear helmets we didn't have to worry about anyone coming into school with a gun like you do now I'm sure the Swiss have their precautions in this world up today this is just how it is living today then yesterday you have to worry about terrorism anywhere
To say "You obviously have never talked to your parents to see how America was before you were born" makes sense when somebody says something like "America has not changed over time, it's the same today as it was 50 years ago." But if somebody is talking about the situation of today without mentioning at all how it was in the past (like in the video), then it doesn't make sense to say that. It is as absurd as this: - The weather is great today, it is so sunny! - You obviously have no clue about the past. One week ago, it was raining. I don't know how it was 50 years ago in the US, but today, it seems to me that most WTF comments on UA-cam come from Americans.
I'd like to hear about the 10 things you don't like about Switzerland. I would like to say the Swiss do take care of their things whereas New York City is a big welfare City and they don't care about keeping their apartments or their pipes and working order that's the welfare system!
I'm actually from Northern Europe and found the quality of the appartements in Switzerland to be quite horrible, especially the quality and looks of the finishing materials. I think NYC apartments have also quite nice old features. Public transportation in Switzerland is in my opinion comparatively slow and very expensive. I'm always laughing on how the Swiss emphasise their transportation being on time because it's on time here as well and nobody makes a deal out of it. I understand your view is different since you come from an entirely different place.
Hello Anne, You are right most of european Train Systems are amazing. But the thing that makes the swiss trains unique is the extremly Network. Switzerland Has the highest density Train Network per Square km. You can take the Train from everywhere to anywhere (said Rick Stevens on his Blog) And the Connections between cities are very frequent (2 per Hour). If you see how all These Lines are combined together it is a Miracle that everything ist still on time. You have mentioned the Speed. Switzerland ist only 300 km wide and has a lot of Mountains. It is Not possible to install a high Speed System, but I think 140 km per hour is not Slow.
@@olibeh no I don't complain about the speed of the train. Due to a lot of connecting vehicles and many stations you always loose 8-10 minutes in between. When I lived in Switzerland I was faster by my bike in a radius of 35 km. This is what I mean by public transportation is slow when even a bicycle wins a lot of the time. So why pay 20-30 francs to be slower than actually by bicycle? Most useful transportation is probably the inter regional trains and the price is then OK as well.
I'll be straightforward: NYC had the absolute worst grocery stores that I had ever experienced. There would be canned goods on the shelves that had been expired for more than a year. I had been warned by my brother to always check before buying (and I didn't) until I got some really weird tasting product - checked the label and saw that it had been expired for a very long time and my brother was not spreading urban legends. I find the processed products in Swiss supermarkets on par with those in "normal" American supermarkets like H.E.B. (in Texas) or Harris Teeter (in South Carolina) or Whole Foods. Most of the time, they're the exact same brands: McCormick, Buitoni, Old El Paso, etc.
Would you guys want to see the reverse video? Things I preferred about living in NYC? Let me know! xx
Yes!!!
It's only fair - bring it on. I have a few ideas myself :-)
@Von The Traveling Swiss I'd love to.
That Geneva is the cultural capital of Switzerland, and New York is the cultural capital of the United States, I think comparing the two in a video, "Geneva vs New York, from a cultural point of view/with a cultural view", would be one-of-a-kind among the myriad of "Switzerland vs United States" videos that can be found throughout UA-cam.
I live in Zurich as well and moved here from the US. For me it's 1) safety, 2) transportation 3) general higher standard of living for everyone (including waiters!). You're not stepping over homeless people on the way to work and feeling generally crappy that so many people don't have the basics in life.
Question, I have been following Switzerland for a few years and even visited there in the fall of 2019. From your experience, what is the best way for people to get a visa? Are they mostly work-related sponsorships?
I totally understand your comment about the homeless people. I currently live in California and we have 42% of the countries homeless here it’s overwhelming.
@@roseforeuropa there are many ways to get a visa, and easier if you're already an EU citizen. but the key is to have a job here. Many expats come on work sponsored visas and they're able to live well with good salaries. Since it's so expensive here, you will have a hard time if you don't already have a job.
@@tomascunha7825 saving money, while working on minimum salary/wage, is difficult in any country; in Switzerland, specifically, the costs of living are among the highest in the World, which means, working on minimum wage could barely afford you to cover/pay for your expenses (just) to survive.
@@mariusmatei2946 could I ask you some questions about it on insta or twitter? Thanks
The flag is a big plus 🇨🇭
Yeahhh our flag is THE besssssst 💕💕
Come on, that's an old one.
@@janwullschleger17 it is, indeed x)
Heyy guys, been watching your videos for few days now as we’re coming to Zurich in June!!! Cant wait !! Hope to see u around there and maybe u guys can tour us around😅jk!
I'm from Seattle. When I was younger I went to Austria for a month. I spent that month eating bread slathered with Nutella and butter, pizza, McDonalds, schnitzel, gelato, and tons and tons of chocolate. I also drank beer, wine, and other assorted liquors. I was a tourist so I walked a lot but other than that I didn't really do any exercise. And when I got home I found I had LOST 15 pounds! European food is just different than American food. I don't know what most of the stuff is in American food but it's definitely a lot harder to lose weight here.
Pure nonsense at its best. US food is just as good as Swiss food but it depends on what you are eating.
US prefers freedom and choice so it is up to you.
😭😭 You're making me cry. Switzerland is such an amazing country.
I also find the transportation system here very impressive and punctual. And going around even up in the alps is also hassle free. Being almost at the heart of Europe, Rome and Paris are easily accessible even by train.
Love the Things u notice here in Switzerland. The thing with the food is also freshness of Vegetables
Great video, as a Swiss I can agree with everything but the tipping culture thing. It is considered polite standard to tip at least 10% (going up to 15% and very rarely 20%) even though noone specifically asks for it. Pretty much everyone I know does it like that.
I agree, Switzerland is a great country to live! I also worked there for a while and loved it! 😁 Have a great weekend! ATB
Hello! it's amazing! It's wonderful video! Switzerland is a wonderful place! Thank you for your wonderful talk and information! It's wonderful!
Nice upload! And it's great high quality video! I really like it! Thank you for sharing! Have a nice week!
thank you so much for watching!
Very much informative. Good for those who are going to settle down Switzerland. Subscribed also
I’m a genuine Swiss and i own my own apartment in the east part of Switzerland, it’s cheaper for me to pay off a mortgage than rent an apartment. If you can afford to buy an apartment, you are better off than paying rent. I have a new top quality apartment, not talking about the dearest, just the quality of how the apartment was built, triple glazed windows, floor heating and more.
Hey it is possible to save money in switzerland in neuchatel it only the minimum wage?
@@tomascunha7825 Yes, if you know how to be frugal within the swiss system. Healthcare premiums vary from 280 to 500 CHF per month even for young people (all options provide the same excellent care). Bike instead of car, flatshare and cooking at home instead of eating out are ways to save lots of money.
@@tomascunha7825 there is actually no minimum wage in general in switzerland. but neuchatel was actually the first "kanton" to implement it locally. 20Sfr per hour time 40 times 4 is like monthly salary which only leads to 3600Sfr a month. depending on the working field you get 13 monthly salaries a year, but i dont think that applies to minimum wage jobs, but i dont know. but its fair to assume that you pay atleast 2 month salary worth on taxes, so thats 600 gone there, you end up with 3000Sfr. social services pay around 2600Sfr a month for a person that does not work at all. so minimum wage is only 400Fr more than doing nothing and from that money you have to pay for the travel to work and the food while being out. at the end as a swiss person you end up even worse than on social security with such a bad minimum wage. so i think 20 is not a fair / good enough minimum wage, but thats just my opinion. but to your question, you can save 300-500Fr a month if you really want / have to even on that wage, but then you have no expenses like holidays, trips, smoking or any other things.
@@grasgruen84 thanks I'm thinking to move to swiss look for a job or 2 and save but its not so easy hahah 😅
Do you have to pay "tax" for having an apartment? Is your apartment considered as a rent possibility and you have to pay for it's space/size/number of rooms?
i too love Switzerland! i have been there many time and still looking forward to my next visit. Aside from the very nice lifestyle and quality of food there is that our partner is Swiss! thumbs up to everyone having Swiss partner!
looking forward to your new uploads!
Lg
-MAY
Thank you so much for watching! Will have a new video up this weekend :D
I am looking for a swiss partner! Any takers?
I love how respectfully you talk about cultural differences.
Thank you, Daniela! Very much appreciated :)
Sounds like some good reasons! I should probably start eating better foods.. looking for those Swiss exports!
Wow! We loved that you put this together. We left NYC and always think about how special it is and how it has a special place in our hearts. We love so many places around the world and there is so much to see and do. NYC does have its downfalls like you mentioned about trains which is the worst part! Tipping is a thing just a part of US culture, but with NYC being such a congested city there are so many restaurants and so many opportunities in the service industry. Great list! We enjoyed your whole video!
thanks so much for watchng!!
We spend a lot of money on our train lines, roads etc to keep them in good order. The vignette (sticker) for your car to be allowed to use the Autobahns is Sfr. 40 per year. Not expensive at all.
You can definitely tell. It's the most incredible transportation infrastructure of any country I've been in for sure.
this was so interesting!! It's one of the places i've always wanted to visit!
Thanks for this video , i just love switzerland its heaven on earth !
Glad you enjoyed it!
Thanks for sharing, it was very interesting to see your perspective. I appreciate the amount of thought and agreed with everything you said. I've lived in the U.S for 15 years. My husband has worked in Geneva Switzerland and we have a small place in Nyon. But I also live in my home country UK. People in Switzerland have beautiful manners also. I laughed when you mentioned the cheese it is truly epic x
Hi, Love your enthusiasm and obvious love for the place. I'm a Scot married to a half-Swiss lass and we live near Edinburgh in Scotland but {normally} regularly visit family back in Kanton Schaffhausen. I've been lucky enough to live within a Swiss family setting { the family were farmers} and experience being immersed in the true culture of the country { which you never really get as a tourist, right?} Lucky too over the last thirty five years to have travelled extensively across the country. I love the german variant used by the family which to me relates very much to my native Scots language in relation to English. I feel a real affinity with it. I admire much about the Swiss - the fierce independence, the sense of pride in community and personal responsibility that the country seems to have fostered very successfully, the fact that it's primarily a safe, clean and cared for environment and the fact that all the pubic transport links so effectively together to get you anywhere so pleasureably and efficiently you can do without a car. Like you we're big fans of the cheese and eating well but relatively inexpensively in a restaurant like in a Migros or buying the sandwiches etc you've mentioned. I'm thoroughly enjoying the videos and the perspective. Hoped to get back last month but regulations just prevented it. Thankfully my wife got there last week to spend time with her elderly aunt. Hopefully I'll make it in the next couple of months and can walk through the forest from the house to the Rhinefall once again. Keep up the good work. Subscribed!
Thank you so much for commenting and for sharing your story/experience with Switzerland! Hopefully you'll make it back here soon! If you ever have any particular videos you'd like to request (or recommendations!) please let me know :)
We have over 450 types of cheese here. A lot come from country towns. Swiss love their cheese.
Nice to hear about the differences between the two countries. I always wanted to try living in NYC 😁, but on the other hand we cant leave Europe behind. We def see ourselves living in Switserland. My fav would be the smooth public transportation over there. And the beautiful nature 🤗
everything is so punctual in swiss, especially the trains and busses ,
who wouldn't want to live in Switzerland haha? So awesome watching your chit chat and pretty POV of Why you love living there, Stay awesome :)
Thank you for watching!
This was really interesting. I liked hearing your perspective. On an opposite note I was shocked to hear about what school kids prepare for in NY!
It was definitely something different - I was in NYC public school in 5th grade during 9/11 and ever since that moment the types of drills and preps we would have was quite intense for our age I think
Been enjoying this channel...got to visit a few times for work (Basel, Zurich, Bienne, Bern, Lucern, Gruyere, Montreaux) was wondering if you mentioned how the salaries compare, and how hard would it be for a non-Swiss person to get a job there?
Wage levels are pretty high, depending on the job. Given that you have a skill that is needed, it's not that hard to move to Switzerland. We have one of the highest rates of skilled immigration in the world.
Please keep the videos coming!
Of course! Let me know if there’s anything particular you want to see! :)
Let’s just say, you are very, very lucky. You have lived in the most vibrant City in the world and now reside in on of the most picturesque. Think positive and positive things happen 👍🌈🙏
That's such a nice way to look at it :) Thanks for watching
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Thanks for the compliments ! :)
Any time! ;)
In Geneva i walked to the Kindergarden (i was 4 to 5 years old) all alone, almost 1Km, having to cross a road, and even walk 300m in a desert alley, and i never ever even felt any kind of fear, outside my home was like inside my home, this is Switzerland: you home is beyond your walls, the whole nation is your home:) (it was in the 60s, ... nowadays i would feel a bit less confident as a parent)
This is exciting. What do you do for a living? What do you suggest for people who want to move there? Thanks
Thank you for watching! I work in advertising and production for a large media company! Finance, insurance, biotech, and engineering are all big sectors in Switzerland. I know they have a shortage of skilled engineers, so a lot of visas are granted for that specifically
@@TheTravelingSwiss - thank you. Was it hard looking for a job there?
@@lifeandmorechannel2987 I'm in an unusual situation - I still work for my employer in NYC but work remotely - but in general yes it can be really tricky to break into the Swiss job market as a non-Swiss
I'm so happy for you two that you found a great place for you two to live. I agree with you about New York City. I've traveled to New York City but nowhere else that I have been in the United States has the problems that New York does. From my experience, If the service is terrible in the US you don't tip 15%. You might even tip 0%. That is the point of tipping. I've not been around schools in New York but I know the high school I went to in Arizona is still an open campus except at night when they are closed. You may actually be able to do a similar comparison video of NYC compared to New Mexico or Arizona or Nevada. NYC is not similar to anywhere.
Love your channel! I wonder if you could share more about how you and your husband met, your story of how you handled long distance, and how you found the transition for your career in a new country. I am originally from America, currently I live in the UK and I'm in a long-distance relationship with my boyfriend based in Switzerland. It would be so helpful to hear your point of view!
I love that you're not bitching about high prices, instead appreciate the safety, reliability and cleanliness. If you're interested there was a Swiss documentary on trash collection a while ago. It's amazing what these men and women do to keep our streets litter-free because we do have ignorant people who leave their beer bottles, cans and face masks everywhere.
Thank you for watching! I'll look into the document, sounds interesting - and I'm sure my husband would love it! Of course prices are high here, but so are the salaries! The quality of life here in my opinion is 100% aligned with the prices of goods and services in Switzerland so I don't consider it a negative at all!
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@@TheTravelingSwiss well then you and your husband must have a really well paying job because as far as i'm concerned , a family of 3 living with a total income of 5000 francs and not always sometimes even less, the fixed costs of rent and health insurance transportation and now sadly childcare... we are broke before the month ends ans we never have emergency money for all the emergency crap that happens every once in a while. He has a broken tooth that needs fixing. He broke it 7 months ago. It will take us 2 years to save up 3000 francs to fix his tooth. So i rlly dont know how many ppl get by here... but god damn it. Im rlly exhausted. And as i say. Child care especially after school care is soo damn expensive. If i get a full time job i will pay triple what i pay now in order to have the same amount of money not to mention the extremely high taxes they take monthly off your salary. From 3700 fr to 2700!! God damn it. Only taxes. Yeah.. im glad youre in a good place but sadly it is not the case for many. And switzerland over prices ALOT of things that are the same quality elsewhere. Pcr 160 fr? What a rip off!!!!!!!!!! I am only glad electricity is cheap and hot water exists here. Coming from a country where these were luxury for me even if we paid extra,they werent available. But otjer than that? Night Transportation in smaller towns and early transport is NOT available. I had to turn down a job becaise there is no train to get me thrre by 6 am. They boast and boast and yet, there are basic necesscitirs that truly need to be looked at!!
Child care !!! Is SOOOOOOOOOOOOO damn expensive my god!!!! If you have 2 kids and you need to put them in childcare because u dont have family to look after them u can forget it!! Sorry im just really frustrated because im just tired of being literally penniless 2 weeks into every pay check. I spent my last 5 cents today and i have to borrow money just to het food until i get paid again in 2 weeks. Oh well..
@@novemberrain2184 lol switzerland actually has one of the lowest tax rates worldwide… and public transportation is one of the best here. believe it or not, at least there are trains and busses to the small towns, unlike in other countries. most of the other countries don‘t have public transportation through the night too.
@@tobimael i disagree. It doesnt have the best public transport. One of the worst iv seen. I had to turn down a job in another town because it startd at 5 am and guess what!!! No transport available :). Should i pay 100 francs for private cab to get me to work? Also , i cnt count the nb of times i had to WALK 50 minutes back home from work at 12 am because there werent any more busses to take me. I dont have a driver license. I wont get a car because its also too expensive to maintain . So how exactly is the gov encouragin ppl to use transport if its not available. Not to mention train rides ?? Hell. Insane. 100 fr per person for a 1.5 hour ride.
i love the transport system in switzerland and i love travelling by train . hope this pandemic comes to an end so that we can travel again
In florida people were a lot more free in the pandemic.
@@bighands69 Texas too.
The school thing is so true. Like the only time there was a "fence" around school was in kindergarden, however that was more to keep the children inside because we were allowed to roam there pretty freely and run around etc and because there was a small shopping centre right next to it there were quite a few cars. Later in elementary school we could technically just walk on and off the schoolyard (we were not allowed to though) and in the evenings you would often find teenagers on the soccerfield just playing and it wasnt a problem at all. (Oh, and the yellow "warn/light vest" thing (we called that "lüchtsgi", meaning light-thing) was only worn by kindergardeners (age 5 and 6) and many would walk alone/with friends or sometimes with parents. In elementary school you would really really rarely go with your parents. So yea, thats great, and as a child you feel really proud to be allowed to wear the vest and go to kindergarden alone.
(Oh, and most would walk to school or take a kickboard or later on bike, up to 12th grade. Or later public transport, and rarely by car)
My friend, thank you for sharing! Very nice video! 🙂👍
St. Gallen has garbage mountains, but I guess they are one of the few that does it like that. Otherwise I agree on all points!
Same as the US. Some places are stunningly clean while others are not.
Thank you very much for this lovely and informative video. I am planning to move to Switzerland soon. I started learning French. I started educating myself about Swiss Culture. I also would love to marry a Swiss gentleman (they are handsome 🥰). ♥️
I love Switzerland but I've never been to New York so I'm waiting to be influenced to compare 😉
It is true that the standard of living in Switzerland is very high but the country offers all the comforts and facilities necessary to feel good in this country, added to this also the mentality of people who are always smiling 😀
There is nothing in Switzerland that can compare to NYC.
NYC is not for everybody and I am not personality cut out for it. I do love the odd trip there and visiting family but that is it.
The difference between Switzerland and NYC can be huge for many people. New State on the other hand has far more in common with Switzerland. New York State has some stunningly beautiful places.
New York state is about 3 times larger than Switzerland. Houses are cheaper in New York State.
Thank you very much for your very interesting video :-)! I think what I like most in CH is that as a CH-citizen I have a say in how the State /Kantons invest my taxes, hence I have no problem paying them because I see what they give me for them :-)
Thanks for watching! That sounds amazing! I would love if I could decide where the taxes I’ve paid in the US go 😬
If you love cheese, visit the Appenzeller show dairy in Stein Appenzell
I'll check it out! Thanks!
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curious here while watching im just started now ..quality of foods???.all i know switzerland is one on a bucketlist of most travellers !!!!thank you
Good quality food is very important to us. We cook mostly fresh food. Not much processed stuff. Only in “emergencies” 😅 for example, our bread has no added sugar 🤷🏻♀️
Yes! It makes shopping so much easier, I just trust that everything will be of a higher quality without being loaded with processed refined sugar and preservatives
Really cool to hear about these differences. Welcome to the European family 🥰
Really well explained
Yay! Thank you! Very happy to be here, still takes a bit of getting used to, but it's been a year and has been great so far!
I'm originally from Geneva but moved to Toronto when I was 23 years old.
When you are talking about garbage, that’s why we pay Sfr. 2 per bag for the council to collect your household rubbish, all the other stuff like cardboard, glass, paper, pet bottles, aluminium, styrofoam, tin cans, metal things, plastic bottles like for shampoo, washing liquid can be recycled. Things like used batteries, old shoes, old clothing, broken small electrical appliances, cds, plus more can be deposited at your recycling centre.
You got me with the cheese! I would LOVE that!
Thank you for sharing. Great to hear about the positive things☺️I’m considering to relocate to Switzerland for better education & living for my kids, checking some international schools there.
So exciting! Thanks for watching!
Beautiful tutorial my friend, thumbs up 👍
Great face expressions with information
The most important reason you live in Switzerland is your other half....you are very lucky finding the perfect partner...
The rest I thing are only details 😂❤️😊
goooood. stay tunned friend and keep connected,
A very warm welcome to our country! You will realize of course at some point that Denmark would have been the (even) better choice. But never mind :-)
Great video. Thank you for the information. I visited Germany and Switzerland just over two years ago and I felt a lot safer in those countries and their cities versus my own country of the United States.
I am interested in expatting in the next 10 years after I retire and am exploring different countries.
What are you looking at most of the time? The monitor that shows yourself?
It is not only the 40 chf for the sticker, The gasoline is taxed (about 0.80 chf per Liter, 3.50 chf per gallon). and all the tax money goes to roadwork.
US has states with no sales taxes and still have stunning roads. Sales tax does not guarantee better roads as there are states with high sales tax and have inferior roads.
@@bighands69 my point is rather that Switzerland has a plan how roads and road works are funded nation wide without lets say the majority of the funding not going to the right places . With flawless roads in the whole country.
What you are pointing out that that is not the case in the US. And if the only point of yours is to degrade Switzerland. please travel your own country and please travel abroad. Before you make statements of relations you have no clue about.
Exposure is education.
I love Switzerland
I like Switzerland woman
I‘m from Switzerland and I walked to kindergarten with my classmates from the age of four without any adult supervision. Never felt unsafe.
such an amazing way to grow up :)
@@TheTravelingSwiss it is for sure. But after watching the video I am concerned about American public transport, because I could complain about the quality of the SBB.
My children in the US walk to school as well.
thank You so much, to remenber me how amazing my Country is. Nevertheless i dream to live in US since i am a little Girl.
Thank you so much for watching 😊
Switzerland seems cool, but i hear its hard to get a visa.
The Traveling Swiss - Alexis & Louis- i'm an american. when i go to a real estate website to check out homes, they dont look appealing. how is the house selection there?
Switzerland has the lowest home ownership rate in the whole of Europe.
Can you live without a car in Switzerland and just use public transportation? Or maybe if you have one, do you need to use it the whole time like here in the US? (I live in the suburbs so we can’t do anything without cars and really hate that) also, what about the healthcare system? Is it free? Or you need to pay insurance?
Thank you.😊
Depends on where you live, when we lived in Zurich for 2 years we did not have a car and had no issues! We live in Geneva now but Louis doesn’t use the car to commute (he takes trams or bikes) we have it mostly for the weekends or when we need to drive somewhere with our baby.
Health insurance is not free and unfortunately quite expensive
Can you order food from the Migros and have it sent to the United States? There are some items I miss that they don’t have now that I don’t live in Switzerland.
Hi Jacob! I'm not sure, but I don't think so unfortunately - I think your best bet would be to have someone in Switzerland buy it for you and send it to the states. Thanks for watching!
@@TheTravelingSwiss thanks and of course! I do miss it there for sure!
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I’m officially jealous. How to move to Switzerland permanent my if am single and a US citizen?😞
WOW classic
Why not mention the Basel airport?:(
My heart is broken💔
Fromaaaaaaaage 😍😍😍
When I went to France to see friends, they showed me their highschools and I was like "yoooo, is this a prison ?? Why do they have those huge fences ?"
"Wait, you don't have those is Switzerland ?"
Well...
hoping that i could be there
Is that a Zimbabwe 🇿🇼 flag on the cuishon in the background.
Haha! no just a neon patterned pillow from IKEA :D
@@TheTravelingSwiss thanks
I don't feel like we have absoluetly no tipping culture. Actually in my place of living in Switzerland it is quite common to give a little tip over the price even if prices are service included.
When you eat for dinner for example and you spend maybe let's say 120.- for 2 persons with wine or something like that and you end up giving absolutely no tip then you're telling the waiter in the subtext that something was reeeeally NOT ok with the meal either the service or the meal it self. To give no tip at all anytime is really not a common practice in switzerland. But... you don't have to thats correct. Nobody can expect it from you 100% or force you to. But we have for sure far more of a tipping culture than they have in italy or spain or so..
The standard of living in the US is far higher and people have more disposable income and that means they can tip.
@@bighands69 far higher than where?
The food in America is not LESS because we have to tip. We just don't pay people a living wage here, so we pass the cost of that to the customer.
How do you get a visa to perm live there
Via marriage to a Swiss
How hard is it to move to Switzerland from the US?
Depends very much on your situation, I'm married to a Swiss citizen so it was a bit easier for me
North America on a whole is so far behind on its infrastructure compared to the rest of the developed countries.
Lol the NYC Garbage! I remember this, so terrible
Are you Pakistan or Iranian New Yorker??
Where are you coming from?
nyc
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Hard Cheeses (extrahart, hart, halbhart) cheeses are naturally lactose-free. So, you can enjoy all the Raclette, Gruyere, Grana Padano, Manchego, Parmesan, Appenzeller, Emmentaler, Sbrinz, etc. to your heart's desire and you won't have any digestive problems. Avoid all soft cheeses.
Public transport better than m track
When I visited Switzerland there was an election going on which nicely contrasted with the politicking I experienced in Switzerland. The political signs were all of a uniform and modest size. There was candidates forum where major candidates held forth to talk with individual citizens. Money did not intrude through huge signage and commercials blaring out talking points. It was all so much more civilized. From talking the the Swiss, I found that the whole contribution of money thing was not present, much less dominant. Switzerland gives meaning to how dysfunctional the whole money is speech thing of American law is.
7:04 You're a bit over reacting here. Everything foreward from 3min is considered delayed and will be called out and shown on the information boards and in the app. But even in Switzerland 1min or 2min delay is considered on time and will not be called out nor shown on the information boards or in the app.
I can swear I’ve seen the 2 min delayed notices but maybe not! Either way my overreaction comes from a good place - just really Impressed with Switzerland’s train system! :)
Most European countries don't allow genetically altered foods. They probably have better pure-food laws in general than the US and don't seem to be fans of American-type junk foods. I don't think the Europeans have a pill for every ill like we do in America, and they tend to use more natural remedies, instead of drugs. And, the practical Swiss are probably less glued to their devices, so more physically active. Also, Switzerland has TEN TIMES less man-made electromagnetic frequencies than what is allowed in the US. So, there are many reasons why one's health would improve after moving to Switzerland.
I would not want too live in any country,no matter how wealthy,where people do not say good morning too you or give a damn whether you exist or not.Switzerland is my idea of absolute loneliness.
You obviously have never talked to your parents to see how America was before you were born we were able to walk to school there wasn't crime like there is today you had people that cared most people that came from Europe wanted to be American and they cared about New York and we could walk and we could play outside and we didn't have to wear helmets we didn't have to worry about anyone coming into school with a gun like you do now I'm sure the Swiss have their precautions in this world up today this is just how it is living today then yesterday you have to worry about terrorism anywhere
To say "You obviously have never talked to your parents to see how America was before you were born" makes sense when somebody says something like "America has not changed over time, it's the same today as it was 50 years ago."
But if somebody is talking about the situation of today without mentioning at all how it was in the past (like in the video), then it doesn't make sense to say that. It is as absurd as this:
- The weather is great today, it is so sunny!
- You obviously have no clue about the past. One week ago, it was raining.
I don't know how it was 50 years ago in the US, but today, it seems to me that most WTF comments on UA-cam come from Americans.
zurich and cheap appartmens is a oximoron... they dont exist in the same universe
It’s all relative - I lived in Manhattan previously so apartments in Zurich relative to that are quite a bit cheaper in the end
I'd like to hear about the 10 things you don't like about Switzerland. I would like to say the Swiss do take care of their things whereas New York City is a big welfare City and they don't care about keeping their apartments or their pipes and working order that's the welfare system!
I'm actually from Northern Europe and found the quality of the appartements in Switzerland to be quite horrible, especially the quality and looks of the finishing materials. I think NYC apartments have also quite nice old features. Public transportation in Switzerland is in my opinion comparatively slow and very expensive. I'm always laughing on how the Swiss emphasise their transportation being on time because it's on time here as well and nobody makes a deal out of it. I understand your view is different since you come from an entirely different place.
Hello Anne, You are right most of european Train Systems are amazing. But the thing that makes the swiss trains unique is the extremly Network. Switzerland Has the highest density Train Network per Square km. You can take the Train from everywhere to anywhere (said Rick Stevens on his Blog) And the Connections between cities are very frequent (2 per Hour). If you see how all These Lines are combined together it is a Miracle that everything ist still on time. You have mentioned the Speed. Switzerland ist only 300 km wide and has a lot of Mountains. It is Not possible to install a high Speed System, but I think 140 km per hour is not Slow.
@@olibeh no I don't complain about the speed of the train. Due to a lot of connecting vehicles and many stations you always loose 8-10 minutes in between. When I lived in Switzerland I was faster by my bike in a radius of 35 km. This is what I mean by public transportation is slow when even a bicycle wins a lot of the time. So why pay 20-30 francs to be slower than actually by bicycle? Most useful transportation is probably the inter regional trains and the price is then OK as well.
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.......if I was your husband I would not leave you alone for a minute
😬 I don't think I would like that very much!
I'll be straightforward: NYC had the absolute worst grocery stores that I had ever experienced. There would be canned goods on the shelves that had been expired for more than a year. I had been warned by my brother to always check before buying (and I didn't) until I got some really weird tasting product - checked the label and saw that it had been expired for a very long time and my brother was not spreading urban legends. I find the processed products in Swiss supermarkets on par with those in "normal" American supermarkets like H.E.B. (in Texas) or Harris Teeter (in South Carolina) or Whole Foods. Most of the time, they're the exact same brands: McCormick, Buitoni, Old El Paso, etc.
RAMPANT CRIME VS LITTLE CRIME; FILTHY AIR & WATER VS FREASH AIR, CLEAN WATER: FILTHY PUBLIC BATHROOMS VS CLEAN PUBLIC BATHROOMS;
WHAT?!
You went on a rant about what's fair.. stay away from that