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  • Опубліковано 13 чер 2024
  • We are reaching the end of Month 5 since the release of the Cursed City of Sintranos and with it the final rotation. Plarium announced in their Raid Digest changes to the next rotation specifically how stages will select the restrictions. This in my opinion is a major issue. Lets break down the changes and also some additional info the Boss Rebalances.
    Link to the Google Sheet: tinyurl.com/462bztys
    Link to Raid Digest: tinyurl.com/ym2d7422
    WE NEED BETTER CHANGES THAN THIS... | Raid: Shadow Legends
    Timeline
    00:00 - Intro
    00:56 - Boss Rebalance Update
    03:55 - Cursed City Core Change
    07:44 - Champion Breakdown per Rotation
    10:59 - Soulcross Champion Breakdown
    13:41 - Which Champions Appear The Most?
    19:21 - Silver Economy Fixes Required
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  • @HHGamingNetwork
    @HHGamingNetwork  Місяць тому +7

    If you want to further dig into the data for hard mode sintranos - I've created the google sheet that you can make a personal copy. We'll add something to the Champion Guides for HellHades.com to future proof this concept!
    Link to the Google Sheet: tinyurl.com/462bztys
    Also check out the full Raid Digest here: tinyurl.com/ym2d7422

    • @dmitri360logcutting3
      @dmitri360logcutting3 Місяць тому +1

      I I don't play that game mode because of the cost to play it

    • @whom382
      @whom382 Місяць тому +1

      I don't see the most used champions in that Google Sheet. Am I missing something?

    • @Nusi42
      @Nusi42 Місяць тому

      Thank you for providing the sheet! There are e.g. 45 Lizardmen and 80 Sacred Order champs. Percentage wise, compared to the total of 859 champs they are 5.24% and 9.32% of the total count. The percentage of champs filtered for cursed city matches the percentage of champs available in the game. Like 5.05% of all allowed champs for CC are lizardmen and 9.05% are Sacred Order. I agree with reducing the silver cost, but the way they created their filters seems to make sense.

    • @JulianGMID1
      @JulianGMID1 Місяць тому

      awesome content, that spreadsheet is nuts

  • @ric01232001
    @ric01232001 Місяць тому +184

    I refuse to regear for this, i build champs, but then they stay as is, if it works then all good, if not i move on and forget about the mode

    • @visarat
      @visarat Місяць тому +18

      i do the same. see how far i get then wait for next time

    • @wraithofkah5487
      @wraithofkah5487 Місяць тому +5

      Same boat as well!

    • @tooreosonecup4995
      @tooreosonecup4995 Місяць тому

      Samsies

    • @Khaavrenbbb
      @Khaavrenbbb Місяць тому +2

      Same. So I’m behind on getting the mythical. I know people are pulling him tomorrow

    • @jimsteinbach229
      @jimsteinbach229 Місяць тому +1

      Yup, the whole gear situation is just cluttered and expensive.

  • @larsmartintangen7072
    @larsmartintangen7072 Місяць тому +31

    Love how they stated that this would be bigger then doom tower , and they gave us a content we need to invest so much for so little rewards. I can't be bothered leveling up all the champions needed with mastery books and gear.... Its not made for normal players

    • @kyleslater5245
      @kyleslater5245 Місяць тому +5

      You know what… imo it’s such a chore I just do the daily requirements there… I can’t be assed to actually play the content much. I just go do things I enjoy more.

    • @dukekessler6292
      @dukekessler6292 Місяць тому +1

      I agree the constant regearing is ridiculous and a resource/time sink. The rewards are pretty damn good though. The gear is top notch and it's a lot of rewards including the soul coins. No shards though which is what most players place at the highest value.

    • @bartkorol611
      @bartkorol611 Місяць тому +1

      ​@@dukekessler6292If you get the gear, you can keep the trash maybe and just dump on champs you might use here but almost as bad dt for farming gearing. And the rewards are not good, so you get some oils? Just another time sink and not a good one either.

    • @dukekessler6292
      @dukekessler6292 Місяць тому

      @@bartkorol611 you get a significant amount of soul coins, energy, and other things. The soul coins are the most valuable and are pretty huge. And the gear is the best in slot gear for damage and the other is best in slot for speed, both made better by being tiered sets making good combinations possible.
      Again players see no shards and assume that it has no value. You do however get 2 remnant summons per rotation.

    • @georgejonesson6338
      @georgejonesson6338 Місяць тому +1

      I completely forgot about that being their whole push behind it. Yet it is infinitely less valuable besides the new gear sets. DT hard I do every rotation even if I have to manually do a couple of stages. And I never miss either hard or normal, there’s not enough incentive and too much punishment to do the same with sintranos

  • @gpvh4426
    @gpvh4426 Місяць тому +11

    I take the approach that RAID will only help you out of their own problems if you pay them. So with that in mind I don't destroy my teams just to regear champs for temporary stages. I go into this game mode getting everything I can and that's it. Eventually I'll get enough of everything to unlock the long-term stuff or enough people will get fed up and RAID will finally get a clue and fix it. I can't waste the time and resources hoping RAID will some day soon do the right thing.

  • @BasementPepperoni
    @BasementPepperoni Місяць тому +56

    They need to either remove the cost for removing gear or drastically reduce the cost, this sh^t seriously is getting to the point where I'm having the opposite of fun while playing.

    • @Valentin_Teslov
      @Valentin_Teslov Місяць тому +1

      Even if they removed the cost entirely I would still be reluctant to swap gear simply because of how annoying to do it is

    • @BasementPepperoni
      @BasementPepperoni Місяць тому +1

      @@Valentin_Teslov I don't mind it too much, but this game would seriously have so much more playability for me if champs were able to have something like 2 spec/equipment sets that they could swap between. Even if it was something you had to unlock through missions/challenges, or a 1 time Gem fee. I'd actually use a lot more of the champs in my vault if that was the case, and they prolly wouldn't even have to end up nerfing the game as a result of more gameplay viability.
      But nope. Instead, we'll get nickel and dimed to death and have to spend an entire day of daily quests resources just to swap 1 set of gear from champ to another, and then you're in the negative since ya gotta still pay to swap it back, smfh.

  • @ethoface9410
    @ethoface9410 Місяць тому +20

    I play for fun not for headaches, when I get to a point in any raid content that feels like smashing my face against a wall I back away n come back later, have fun don't let their game design stress you out my dudes

  • @Nick-xo5mm
    @Nick-xo5mm Місяць тому +15

    my 6 star chopper finally gonna pay off

  • @karlgunterwunsch1950
    @karlgunterwunsch1950 Місяць тому +7

    I am finished with Sintranos if that rotation comes up like this. I had one single rotation where I could get past the (several) choke points on entry to the Soulcross area with the champs I have after playing the game 5 effing years. With the complete rotation now being totally random I will have no chance whatsoever to ever get into Soulcross again because one of the choke points will get me. I simply will play the game as if that part does not exist at all.

  • @Elixium_Watches
    @Elixium_Watches Місяць тому +5

    Amazing tool! Thank you for all your work and time you lend to the community :)

  • @WickedSL
    @WickedSL Місяць тому +7

    so u are telling me this is plariums method to deplete our silver constantly, and build the most random champs to just use one time every 3 months

  • @jerryfox143
    @jerryfox143 Місяць тому +2

    love the spread sheet
    would be nice to see it filtered by like Soulcross since that's the biggest issue

  • @snypergotya
    @snypergotya Місяць тому +1

    You are 100% spot on with all of these requests. It just amazes me how you can point out issues point blank to Plarium and basically they can't be bothered with it.

  • @Anubis678
    @Anubis678 Місяць тому +2

    Okay what we REALLY need is multiple gearing tabs. Say 1 PvP tab and 2 PvE tabs we can gear each tab and flip between what tab on the champ we want to use.

  • @dweb6832
    @dweb6832 Місяць тому

    The spreadsheet is great as usual. Thanks!

  • @shipboy32
    @shipboy32 Місяць тому

    Thanks for all the hard work you do Sapth! 💪🏼🙌🏼

  • @KresnikOSRS
    @KresnikOSRS Місяць тому

    Thank you for making that spreadsheet! I was waiting for someone to compile the data from the 5 rotations so we could start analyzing potential new champs to level up and build. Being in mid game I feel a lot of my next lvl 60s will be dictated on champs that can help address pain points in sintranos. Coming up with more champs than can handle Bommal and Scarab King in particular

  • @symm2r
    @symm2r Місяць тому +5

    Adding points for gear ascension in Artifact Enhancement events would help a lot imo

    • @dukekessler6292
      @dukekessler6292 Місяць тому

      This is a great suggestion.

    • @HHGamingNetwork
      @HHGamingNetwork  Місяць тому +6

      Upgrading many of the events would to be honest. Gear Ascension for Enhancement, Adding Diver points for Sand Devil and Shogun, Adding training points for awakening champions aswell just fleshing all of them out for 2024.

    • @georgejonesson6338
      @georgejonesson6338 Місяць тому

      It’s a bit silly that they’re so behind on this stuff. I’m stuck on the sand devil and shogun missions to get the greater essence because I’m always stuck doing some event that doesn’t allow me to do what I want to progress

  • @LABRTVR
    @LABRTVR Місяць тому +4

    @10:40 they're basically asking(telling imo) you to build 300 champions... it's Paylarium, of course that's what they want. Plarium does one thing with this game and that's crank the screws down as many ways possible to get peeps to spend more money. Fixing the issues of silver or improving gear drops from endless farming to help would probably cut into their profits and therefore won't happen. I figured from the start that Sintranos was just a big ploy to drive up the cash flow... same reason I'm guessing they won't ever do anything about the low energy cap.
    For me to continue playing the game needs to be fun, not work and I am more dedicated to remaining f2p than ever with this company so I just do what I can and want to. When pay walls or difficult content stops me I either try to figure a solution or just move on.

  • @TheRagzzz
    @TheRagzzz Місяць тому +1

    Got no problem with having to build extra champs to complete harder content, because once they're built I have them moving forward. Would like to see free champion storage that is unlimited in order to be able to do that.

  • @Lint42
    @Lint42 Місяць тому +1

    I play with what champs I have built and move on. Like you said none of us have the silver to regear every champ every rotation. I've been playing since before the Rotos fusion and have a pretty darn good end game account. I still don't have 20 awakening levels for some of the awakening stages.

  • @Deosis
    @Deosis Місяць тому

    Thanks for the vid and the document! Especially the most used champs overview will be useful to have (been building my Katonn a bit for FW).
    And they definitely need to deal with the silver issue. I definitely don't have enough to switch gear around to push through difficult stages.
    As for the filters, not sure what to think about it. Guess it'll be something new eveytime but it'll surely be annoying to have to build so many more champs

  • @acorn1754
    @acorn1754 Місяць тому

    Saph, I agree with everything you said. One thing I think you missed is the huge inattentive per champ to get them masteries. It's currently 2200 energy per champ. We need stage 25 for Mino, make it take less than half of the energy and that would go a long way to helping us get more champs trained. Also, give us a reason to farm Mino, make the scrolls worth something in DD.

  • @teddyboar323
    @teddyboar323 Місяць тому

    "I've been working on a method of assessing all rotations to try find champions you should invest the most." - doing God's work there, thank you!

  • @omaraponte908
    @omaraponte908 Місяць тому +1

    *I'm literally watching this video and upgrading the gear on the champions that appear more often during Cursed City while the Lady Mikage Artifact Enhancement is live*

  • @muchanic
    @muchanic Місяць тому

    My main problem is that usually when I am stuck somewhere on hard I am also stuck on normal difficulty as well. Not because of gear but because of champs I don't have build up. There are factions where I dont have single lvl 60 champ or single legendary champ worth ranking up.
    And another problem is getting masteries - there are champs I use daily that don't have them so there is 0,0001% chance I will get to do champ I can only use once per 2-3month in Sintranos.
    I don't even bother regearing, even when it is free. It is not built for normal players and when I hit roadblack (usually pretty early in the rotation) I just ignore Sintranos until it resets.

  • @jillstandretracy4661
    @jillstandretracy4661 Місяць тому +1

    Agreed 100% n btw 🤩 love u r spreadsheets. You r much appreciated

  • @severngamingnetwork
    @severngamingnetwork Місяць тому +1

    This man is a treasure!

  • @luciferrin7475
    @luciferrin7475 Місяць тому

    Thanks for the legwork. 🥂

  • @charlesmims8786
    @charlesmims8786 Місяць тому

    I’m a long term player - and I actually like that Sintranos is pushing me to build out my roster though I know many see it as an annoyance - if you’ve built out champs for everything else this is something to do. It’s late game. What I dislike is that though there are many paths, actually there are defined choke points in all areas outside of the initial one so if I can’t do Dark Fae for example, then I’m just locked out - I can’t go around into that area. I swear the limitations got harder after the initial rotation but that may be my imagination

  • @pestyoverlord
    @pestyoverlord Місяць тому +1

    Saph regears for every stage, it seems it's weird. I don't do that. I use left over champs and gear. And I've done every boss on hard mode from rotation 2 onward using that strat. It's an issue but not to the extent saph says it is. He's making it more complex than it needs to be for himself.

  • @lougait4362
    @lougait4362 Місяць тому

    Definitely will want to know how useful the next fusion will be for soul cross hard.

  • @ModernMyths
    @ModernMyths 22 дні тому

    It's not just removing and regearing champs. It's actually having these champs. I can never get any further in Hard because I just don't have these champs. It's even hilarious when I got on the optimizer on HH website and it can't even give me any teams to defeat it.

  • @DvryceB
    @DvryceB Місяць тому

    One thing I've wanted for a long time is that gear upgrades can never take more attempts than the level you are trying to upgrade to. Sort of a mercy system for gear upgrades. For example, if I'm trying to upgrade my banner from level 11 to level 12, it cannot take more than 12 tries; going from 15 to 16 cannot take more than 16 tries. This would reduce the cost of gear upgrades and reduce the amount of frustration with and anger at the game caused by upgrading gear.

  • @icejoe6534
    @icejoe6534 Місяць тому

    Hey Saph, im a lil confused.. ur saying they changed sintranos but the articel doesnt say they chnaged anything, just they are clarifing how it works... so r they just explaining how it works like they say or they did actually CHNAGE something?

  • @jackglass9226
    @jackglass9226 Місяць тому +1

    I've ben trying to play raid nearly 4 years. I've spent thousands and regret every penny. You need luck when you pull shards, when you roll gear and money and effort get you more rolls at the dice but don't change you needing the luck. The game would be great if ever I get some champs or gear to actually play it.

  • @Sledgehuk
    @Sledgehuk Місяць тому

    Good coverage i do what I can do on hard and then thats it, not spilling out time on rng, cost of silver, builds etc, for no reward straight off the bat will get what i need too down the line ...

  • @michelleeditor
    @michelleeditor Місяць тому

    They should combine re-gear with the equipment upgrade period. That way you can upgrade and remove gear and maximize your silver use

  • @rowanmcleod5576
    @rowanmcleod5576 Місяць тому

    the weirdest thing in sintranos is how much of the game it makes almost irrelevent. i dont run potion keeps sand devil or shogun because it's easier to win the resources from them in sintranos. it would have been such a great place to put stacks of books which would justify the requirement of constantly building champions. as it is i just build the best champions i can with the best gear i have available. not enough silver to keep swapping gear constantly or even upgrade it all.

  • @o1GAUGES1o
    @o1GAUGES1o Місяць тому +14

    I literally just get my 3 keys, kill amius on both difficulties and dip out. Silver cost to build teams has killed this game mode from the get go

  • @jebusisnthere2580
    @jebusisnthere2580 Місяць тому

    Simple fact of the matter is they are trying to incentivise people spending resources on gearing, buying storage space and levelling as many heroes as possible as it drives sales. They will not want to fix the economy as it drives profit. It is just a case of creating a problem to sell a product. Thanks for the work as usual though, as always quality work.

  • @thebigwahoonie2009
    @thebigwahoonie2009 Місяць тому

    Sometimes I think the Plarium Board sits in a meeting and they are like: "Damn! Why do we have ppl in our community that are able to dig out this numbers in the code?"
    Thanks for doing the work I couldnt do.

  • @hamo455
    @hamo455 Місяць тому

    Jingwon, boy that was a fun day wasting my void mercy on that guy. But I still have him built for one stage with Nether Spider to throw debuffs back at the boss.

  • @suokkos
    @suokkos Місяць тому

    I don't do gear swaps. I just don't beat stages if I don't have champions built for them. Eventually I will have enough champions build but it is going to take age.

  • @dustinanderson1860
    @dustinanderson1860 Місяць тому

    I only do the stuff in cursed city that I can without moving gear. If I can't do it, I move on. Very little sunk time or cost. I end up switching from hard to normal halfway through. Never finished one yet. Will be a long time before I do. Precisely because of silver cost.

  • @skew9879
    @skew9879 Місяць тому +1

    that laundry day was clutch tho ong

  • @Redinator
    @Redinator Місяць тому

    *Plarium* : _Dig deeper into your coffers._
    *Players* : _No._

  • @aledstovold3906
    @aledstovold3906 Місяць тому +1

    If sintranos was made easier where you didn't need to have your best gear moved to champs to complete the content then I think what they have done with it is fun. The only other solution I can see is to remove gear cost of moving gear around.

  • @fabithiery7269
    @fabithiery7269 Місяць тому

    In my opinion, it makes sense that there is a gear swapping cost - if there wasn't, there wouldn't be much need to farm gear, since you could use the same 5 stun sets over and over again. What I would really like to have would be some QoL changes that make changing gear a lot easier and faster....

    • @georgejonesson6338
      @georgejonesson6338 Місяць тому +1

      What do you mean. How do you make it faster and easier than it already is without taking the stupid cost burden off?It takes like 30 seconds in the try on selection. You’re still using the same 5 stun sets, it just costs 2 million silver to move them around

  • @jamesfoxx8302
    @jamesfoxx8302 Місяць тому

    I would give just about anything in game for the devs to watch this video. It hits all the points and problems as well as gives easy solutions for them to implement. I usually get around 90 stages done hard and I just get sick of spending silver and rearing along with some of the RNG of stages rotation. Well done Saph

  • @Epiphonech
    @Epiphonech Місяць тому

    We would like to statistics from Optimiser - what are the most used champs in Cursed city location so far?

  • @iamhungry4000
    @iamhungry4000 Місяць тому +3

    Saff this is constructive criticism, but maybe you could give a quick summary of what the point is before you dive into excel sheets so people know what it's about and whether they want to watch a twenty minute video and if it's even relevant to them. You do a good job though, and I like the fact that you're detailed and show your working.

    • @kyleslater5245
      @kyleslater5245 Місяць тому +2

      lol that’s saph for ya. He’s smart af and sometimes his content is good for me but damnit most of it is as effective for me as a private jet….
      Don’t get me wrong I still try to understand him every time. One day it might work…

    • @HHGamingNetwork
      @HHGamingNetwork  Місяць тому +1

      There be chapters on the video for this but hope you understand my goal isnt to make a video people will watch 1 minute of ofcourse. I do tried to summarise everything where i can!

    • @iamhungry4000
      @iamhungry4000 Місяць тому

      @@HHGamingNetwork Yeah that's what I meant Saph, it's a long video to watch if you're not even sure what it's about before hand. Like I said, constructive criticism, no hate, and appreciate that you replied :)

  • @TheLancemine
    @TheLancemine Місяць тому

    The solution i would suggest for reducing the silver cost is Plarium giving everyone 4 days of regearing the second week-end of the rotation + allowing players to buy, for something like 40 gems, 48h of free regear in the gem shop, within a limit around 4x a month.
    So people can regear more often, they can also choose when they want to regear and as there’s a limit in the amount you can buy the regear, people won’t abuse it for the pvp

  • @jerryfox143
    @jerryfox143 Місяць тому +1

    I'm about to get karnage this rotation
    sin city still sux but imo it's been heavily nerfed by the faction guards
    Still wish we could have more regear events or maybe something like exp booster but for free or discount regear

  • @amphetabiene4955
    @amphetabiene4955 Місяць тому

    I‘m still wondering why they not simply add a Token-System into Sinntranos, since everyone rather skips the city than wasting ressources on required champions.
    I got this in mind:
    So you have 8 Keys therefor I would suggest adding a total of 4 Tokens to the city.
    Each Token can be used to randomly add a champion from the last 20 recently used champions.
    In most cases, so I think, that would make things way more relliable since then it would be up to everybody to maybe check the following stages if he want to save the rest of his tokens or maybe go for another token to unlock another one additionaly to the first unlock of the Random-Token-Spin-System.
    With such a mechanic the city would be way more attractiv and it would make it a real challenege, cause in my eyes it isn‘t challenging not to be able to clear a stage rather because of it‘s stupid champion limitations than real hard strategies enemies.
    If things are not doable by random, just because you dont have at least one useful champion to pick, than it‘s nothing I really wanna get my hands on. I just skip it and leave it behind.

  • @Therealmt7765
    @Therealmt7765 Місяць тому

    Ive completed sintranos 1 time since its been released and i love the extra reqards they have. I dont regear anyone for sintranos but im building a lot of champs for it so my roster has more than doubled since its release. I dont let it frustrate me, if i cant complete it that's fine but building so many champs kinda sucks cause theyre useless for me anywhere else it seems

  • @darkbeach72
    @darkbeach72 Місяць тому

    Gear loadouts would be insane.

  • @alasala1687
    @alasala1687 Місяць тому

    16 minutes in is the most useful information

  • @A_Amko_A
    @A_Amko_A Місяць тому

    Gj...Raid...im soo glad im supporting you. 🐵

  • @MrMillett9
    @MrMillett9 Місяць тому +1

    Agree on silver but also gear drops so bad now.

    • @freeeggs3811
      @freeeggs3811 Місяць тому

      Yeah that’s why I only farm spider

  • @rsquestingandbossing4071
    @rsquestingandbossing4071 Місяць тому

    Free gear removal should be implemented if they actually want people to try for Sintranos. Also, Scarab Boss and HP stages should be looked at. Many people are just using a solo regen build for scarab boss and for hard mode HP, it’s hard to beat the stage if you don’t have Taras or Narses. Sure, you could beat the stage with other HP champions but it takes forever because they rely on debuffs and there’s cleansers in every wave

  • @user-wm4vp3go5j
    @user-wm4vp3go5j Місяць тому

    100% I think you have a wonderful idea but they on that side are thinking of revenue so it's kind of a what do I do and do this so we make less sorta things. The silver is our biggest issue

  • @JohnGangi
    @JohnGangi Місяць тому

    I’m hoping that toward the end of this rotation they make changes. All the krakens will have gotten karnage so they get to enjoy him early and then plarium can loosen up some of the restrictions to make these stages more solveable without reliance on rng and insane overkill stats. Either that or they’re going to start "selling the solution" by introducing champions that meet these specific filters for late stage soulcross, which is probably the route they will take.

  • @454slowride
    @454slowride Місяць тому

    I can't beat normal S4. How to handle Chagaar?

  • @gugafabbro
    @gugafabbro Місяць тому

    Silver and Lego books are the real money makers for plarium...

  • @yoshihara888
    @yoshihara888 Місяць тому

    I build everyone so I don’t mind as much, but the silver is an issue. Could they make Sintranos a separate window within the game that you save all the builds before entering, and within Sintranos gear switching could be done without cost, and finally when exiting Sintranos the builds are all loaded back to what they where saved before entering. It’s not perfect, but I’d argue it’s better

  • @BrennanCh06
    @BrennanCh06 Місяць тому

    Wouldn't Jingwon be a good Armanz Arena counter?

  • @dukekessler6292
    @dukekessler6292 Місяць тому

    Strange that Calamitous shows up the most given both his forms are atk.

  • @nicolaslacroix-pepin7750
    @nicolaslacroix-pepin7750 Місяць тому

    In itself the concept is good. The problem is down the line in game evolution.
    Was talking last year with Neva and he was saying he had onle 18 champion with gear on his whole account. Myself I don't really do Sintranos and can do all game content with between 20-40 champion with gear on. When you do your big regear live video I am sure it's a similar number 20-40?
    To aim at building 100-300 different champion in a champion collector game isn't a bad idea in itself.
    The problem is the foundation of the game was 4 main dungeon, clan boss (OG) and arena. You needed probably godlike gear on like 10-20 champion so the gear mechanic was RNG so heavy to make you work to get gear on those 10-20 an prohibit to have 5 goood gear set and just swap them endlessly. Wich was fine.
    Now with 2 CB, 3 arena mode, 7 main dungeon, 3 DT rotation and 5 Sintranos rotation, the game goal is to get not 10-20 build champion but 100-300.
    Either you can freely swap gear or (what would make more sens) gear with right stats would be easier to acquire.
    I wouldn't mind building 300 champion that you collect... the problem is getting 300 x 9 legendary to godlike gear pieces for those 300...
    Either you collect a few godlike gear set that you freely swap or you downgrade the RNG so you get enough good gear to build those champions... it's one or the other.
    Depending on game vision

  • @whwiii
    @whwiii Місяць тому

    Call me crazy but i like training many different champions. Just 6* rock breaker in triple frostbite for s 6, what a great cc champ i'd have never used. Paired well with stun shield guard and resist lifesteal zephyr from the old spider days.
    Silver though is a huge problem and free regear should be sooner. Feels bad waiting for the end

  • @HK-ob6hq
    @HK-ob6hq Місяць тому

    What's my thought ? Well, as long as I need to regear to optimize my cintranos ability then I'm just gonna not really bother with it, it goes the way of live arena which is also just another annoying time sink.

  • @dmariots
    @dmariots Місяць тому

    I think sin city is easier for me bc I kept 1 copy of every epic and rare, and feed dupes to them as books and given basic gear. And even leveled them during events. So I have 4-stars fully booked and geared ready for use. And I'm to a point where 5- starring a champ is easy... Which is usually all it takes most stages.

  • @GrayBonesGaming-su8vt
    @GrayBonesGaming-su8vt Місяць тому

    Economy is a huge issue. I waste so much time doing airplane mode to level artifacts, cause if I do not, then I run out of silver every time we have an artifact enhancement event. =p

  • @vx9330
    @vx9330 Місяць тому

    Time to breakout the 6-star Ultimate Galek blessing I have been sleeping on I guess X)

  • @GRIMRPR
    @GRIMRPR Місяць тому

    Having to build different champions for different rotations is a very very very positive thing for me

  • @RockinTROUBLE4U720
    @RockinTROUBLE4U720 Місяць тому

    sounds like a nightmare it makes my head hurt

  • @Chris_Whisky
    @Chris_Whisky Місяць тому

    Right now, I just see Sintranos as "Hey, some free stuff"... but I simply can`t do some stages... I would have enough problems beatingthe Bommal and Ice Golem Hard combo with ALL my champs available, let alone with a reduced roster

  • @user-fn2hd5ff1d
    @user-fn2hd5ff1d Місяць тому

    they should have a weekly or bi-weekly free gear removal friday or something and keep it , then everyone could plan , oh its free gear friday lets rebuild, etc

  • @rowdybishop5755
    @rowdybishop5755 Місяць тому

    Another change needed is to allow more movement in Sint. Increase the number of pathways for avoiding bosses and increase the reward for defeating them to incentivize actually fighting them. The mode dies at the boss for most people and not being able to do other battles that can be won is a loss. Allow us to get around these bosses that need specific champs.

    • @HHGamingNetwork
      @HHGamingNetwork  Місяць тому +1

      Yeah some of the core blockers like Soulcross 9 / 6 / 8 have been truly brutal the past few rotations. This should in theory improve with the situation but the map could do with adjustments.

  • @peterbrown8455
    @peterbrown8455 Місяць тому

    Yeah this sucks more than I realized when I first read it. 😅 At least I could potentially regear some Champs for critical progress during the regear and then move gear for the next stage at the end of it before once we saw all the rotations. But now I can throw that hope out the window...
    Also yay the one Mythical I've pulled is the least used for Sintranos in Arbais lmao.

  • @GavinMastersRAID
    @GavinMastersRAID Місяць тому

    What if they give us one free champion regear per day? With the daily reset.

  • @RavenDeepwood
    @RavenDeepwood Місяць тому

    I dont regear any more, either they work or I wait for free gear removal and vault strip them.
    I can do 99% of normal and have beat whats his name 3 out 5. Hard mode I think I have been blocked from getting out of cobble market at less 3 out of 5 rotations and scarb king is just an auto road block majority of time, cause im not wasting time trying to beat it even if I can field a half decent team against it.
    Nubs cover some boss fixes as well, plus your silver economy fixes and it would be a good start.
    Hope they listen to you guys. Keep ip the good work mate.

  • @dd_zzero6827
    @dd_zzero6827 Місяць тому +4

    Anyone surprised that Plarium hasn't addressed the problems Saph is mentioning for the City? When they don't touch something as easy as token trader or the market or bizarre, they certainly will not touch this for another 5 year. Saph, thank you so much for the breakdown with your stats. They were so very interesting.

  • @whwiii
    @whwiii Місяць тому

    list for soul cross hard only would be nice

  • @jefferyerik5427
    @jefferyerik5427 Місяць тому

    I 6 starred Aleksander for sintranos. atleast i know he can help in many stages

  • @mrelemantal4743
    @mrelemantal4743 Місяць тому

    The should do like watcher of realms and have a boss you can fight kinda like clan boss where the more damage you deal the more money you make and every minute that goes by the boss gets stronger and stronger and a timed thing is better than a turn thing with this after say 10 minutes the boss hits through all buffs and than say you deal 50m damage to this boss you get 50m silver and you can only hit it once a week
    Theres the 3rd door in clan bosses put it there maybe make it a clan thing where you get multipliers the more damage as a clan that you deal

  • @scotsanders1156
    @scotsanders1156 Місяць тому +1

    What is wrong with hard content just being hard. You don't have to complete absolutely everything in the game all the time. I love sintranos because of that. I love the idea that to consistently beats it you need all of the Champs built. And that's just really difficult to do.

  • @Nexard237
    @Nexard237 Місяць тому

    i feel like if you get a rotation you dont like you feel bad for 30 days. if you progress you still can get lucky. it fits the gamemode better to be all rng.

  • @KeithDCanada
    @KeithDCanada Місяць тому +3

    I usually rag on Plarium... and for good reason. Their track record, in my opinion, is not great.
    With that said.... I was one of the haters for Sintranos when it first dropped. The thought of having to build a ton of vault dwellers just for one piece of content seemed like a real chore.
    Months in.... and I will say, that I was 100% wrong. It's given me a chance to really try out new champs that I would have never built before. When Sintranos opened, any 6star rare soul that dropped, I built that rare to 6*..... and I am shocked at the versatility of a handful of those rares. Some of the rares an epics I have built solely because of Sintranos, have turned out to be some of my funnest builds.
    So... on this update, I am going to give Plarium a pass, and wait for it to go live before I judge it.

  • @DevilizerHimself
    @DevilizerHimself Місяць тому

    Yeeeah, Im not doing the whole re-gearing thing. Not too bothered. I'm just pushing stages as far as I can, maaaybe 6* a new champ if I feel like that. After that, I wait for the reset.

  • @Khaavrenbbb
    @Khaavrenbbb Місяць тому +1

    We pull shards and chase legos, but this game mode locks them out and make you use epics and rares.

  • @daveinsane7349
    @daveinsane7349 Місяць тому

    but if u where able to clear all stages once, u can do it again? its just those hyper hard stages like hte morag soulcross stage in rotation 1 that stays that hard. but if u have been able to clear, u will be again, with now just the live arena bonus stats
    In my case, I dont swap gear around, but try to make possible what I can do with the gear I have still laying around, requires a shitton of gear but at least I know if I could make it, I ll be able to do so again without destroying other teams

    • @HHGamingNetwork
      @HHGamingNetwork  Місяць тому

      Yeah im taking this approach but eventually my 4.5 year account will run out of gear.

  • @pewpewgang
    @pewpewgang Місяць тому

    i believe the mode will be left behind for most people after they get the mythical. This mode is mostly just torture lol

  • @f.h.1364
    @f.h.1364 Місяць тому

    For me personally, the biggest issue of Sintranos is that Soulcross is boring. I am not moving gear. Only build champs and keep the items on them. I only rebuild the key champs like Duchess.

  • @marvingauthier2290
    @marvingauthier2290 Місяць тому

    Another Plarium low, didn't see this one coming. Now this means players in the same clan will have different enemies on the same stage ? Takes away the "fun" sharing experiences between us. I wonder if the in game "Suggested Teams" or "Team of the Week" will be per version of that stage or global.

  • @reborngt7204
    @reborngt7204 Місяць тому

    all i want is better rewards from the normal sintranos chest. Im not asking for shards or books just atleast give us some energy or gyms

  • @sjaakbakker9944
    @sjaakbakker9944 Місяць тому

    Truth!

  • @deezydeuce
    @deezydeuce Місяць тому

    I'd been playing long enough when the Cursed City was released to not even worry about gear-swapping. But, I can see a a newer player just gaining access to Sintranos just how daunting it can be. Also, LESS LINEARITY!!!! ;)

  • @sunce_99
    @sunce_99 Місяць тому

    That’s not the main issue, but as a guy who is interested in data I have a question - isn’t the numbers “biased” because some factions have a much more wider roster to choose from? Because it seems that factions with 3+ rows of every hero rarity are far more ahead on this count

    • @HHGamingNetwork
      @HHGamingNetwork  Місяць тому

      Possibly yes - if a faction is more champs it will show up more naturally. Theres many ways to contextualise the data i guess.

    • @sunce_99
      @sunce_99 Місяць тому

      I mean you’ve process a huge pile of data, and I want to thank you for moving that way, but due to special love for banner lords and sacred order stats looks like most of the factions are worthless, when it mostly depends on specific champions, rather than a raw number of heroes that are “available in filter”
      Anyway, thanks for displaying this stats, it’s a really nice things to know!

  • @mrelemantal4743
    @mrelemantal4743 Місяць тому

    Immagine if mythical champions can be use on any stage in curse city lol

  • @rd400d
    @rd400d Місяць тому

    they just need to make gear free to change in the character select screen. hell they need to make it free period.