Bikepacking Setup Part 1: Sleep System
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Hello Fellow Cyclists,
I have gotten some requests to do a setup video so here it is.
In this video mini series I will take a look at how I pack my bikepacking bags for trips. I have decided to make this a mini series so those interested in a particular part of the setup could just watch that video instead of a longer video searching for what they are looking for.
This is part 1 of 3
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Parts two and three are coming in the following weeks.
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I wouldn’t recommend to store the sleeping bag in the same bag as the tent without any separation. In case that you have to pack a wet bivi/tent into the sack, there is a high risk that your down feathers are wet too in the end. Probably a separat waterproof rolltop bag for the sleeping bag would help to separate these to while pushing them into the frontloader
This is gonna save me from trouble, thanks!
Agreed. I keep my sleeping bag separate with my dry/warm kit at the back. Wet stuff (poncho, bivi-bag, waterproof jacket at the front.
Or if you still want them stored together, cut a compactor bag down to size so your sleeping bag has a little protection.
Looks pretty solid. Definitely gonna be using some of your ideas and looking into that gear
Nice way to pack everything together, I will try it next time I go out
Pretty cool kit. Compact and well thought through.
Very nice light weight compact set up. Great for long distance and comfort.
Thanks for the video. I do a similar set up using Blackburn’s dry bag and mount. Same sleeping bag, but In place of the bivy and pad I cary an ultralight eno hammock, bug net and rain tarp. All the best on your adventures!
This was super well produced. Nice work, and nice kit!
Thanks BenRidesBikes! appreciate the feedback!
Awesome sleeping pad and sleeping bad recommendations, thanks!
The production quality on your videos are awesome!
Looking to get into bike packing and your videos are an amazing source of info.
Sub-ed! Kudos!!!!
I like your sleeping bag...would be great for long motorcycle tours as well. Nice setup.
short, simple, no bullshit blabla. Thumbs up from Germany!
Better than what we have now
Super informative and great production value.
Great video!! I've been wanting to setup a sleep system just like this since my current setup is a bit too bulky and on the heavier side. Thanks for putting this together!
Phil Snider - LAK Amputee no problem! Always interested in seeing people’s setup myself so I’m glad that showing mine helped someone out !
nice video and thanks for the tip with the tent sleeping bag and pad. greeting from france
nice job mate. looking forward to the next installment. really well made video.
tomac1020 thank you ! Pt 2 will be out this coming week !
I bike camp primarily in MN/WI and use a hammock that usually lives in my basket. I’ve really embraced basket camping in the last few years as it’s enabled me to leave my basket on at all times regardless of what I’m using my bike for!
Super convenient set up! I'm returning to the US in a couple weeks to set up a bike and gear for a cross country trip. Def. love the tips here. Cheers!
No problem glad I could help ! Enjoy your trip!
Loved the vid! Keen for the series!
merci pour ta vidéo pleine de bon sens...
The OR bivy looks cool. I almost went for a bivy until I found the North Face 'storm break' single-person tent.... Wow, that thing packs surprisingly small and light and it's like a mansion inside as far as bike packing goes
We're doing similar set ups. If your new to bivy tents I picked mine for all the reasons you mentioned but the Ionosphere by SnugPak is an Awesome tent!! Highly reviewed...used by British Special Forces. My pad is a Klymit...hey you big guys!! These Klymit ultralight pads are amazing! Half the size of what you show here...one and a half inches thick....yet a big guy can lie on his side and not hit bottom! Your bag is nice though!! I'm allergic to down or I'd go that route...instead I've got this hugh beast of a Coleman!
It's virtually identical to the one i purchased and am trying soon, I'm happy to know I made good choices
I am using a Giant AnyRoad2 with dual brake levers ( the reason I chose this bike)
Will this set up hang low enough to allow the middle levers to work naturallt and not drag on the front wheel?
Interesting setup. Maybe I will get this soon too 😄 Stoked on bikepacking right now 😁
do not have anything yet but this video game me things to think about thanks for sharing.
Thank you! Good Luck!
I just got suggested your channel and i am blown away with the quality of the content. Keep up the good work! And btw, your spanish is great, oveja (sheep) is a really hard work for english speakers. Greetings from Chile!!!
Gracias ! So mitad Mexicano! Saludos
I can't get by with less than front and rear Ortlieb panniers for extended self contained mtn bike tours. By self contained, I mean tools to do my own repairs, food for 5-7 days, clothes and shelter for all weather conditions and water for up to 2 days when water sources are scarce. It has served me well for the Continental Divide, Baja Divide and FL trail thru rides. I'll be doing the 5200 mile TAT starting in April with the same setup.
Good vids. Similar setup for me except a hiking tent rather than bivy. For the extra comfort/room, got to sort a new sleeping bag though.
Great sleeping bag. Definitely going to get that.
A word of warning on the Aegismax bag. It is more a summer bag than a three season bag. I would advise trying it out on a warm, 50 degree night first before you test it's 35 degree temperature rating. Also, make sure you pack extra layers your first couple times using this bag until you figure out your system.
I like what you did with the sleeping bag and mat, putting them inside the bivvy bag before rolling up (makes it like a cowboys sleep system). Subbed.
I absolutely hate top tube bags and almost everyone uses a setup with them. I really like the clean look of your setup and the minimalistic approach!
that knife is dope
Top... Danke für das video...
I like your style. Keep up the good work
Thanks Brain! Will do!
I just take 12 dollars and a banana and pedal till I collapse
Thats the spirit, brother.
have you made it back?
Beer must be cheap where you're riding
i tried bananas for pedals but it didnt work well - any tips?
Why do you take $12?
Like the simplicity of your vids - nothing complex. My sleep system... Hennessy Hammock, under-quilt, fly, python straps, Thermarest Chorus blanket & 4 beeners. Packed in only a 12L stuff sack. As pulled out of the bag. Straps & fly go up first, pre assembled for speed (a must so I can duck under when raining, then the hammock, under quilt, & down quilt inside all ready to just clip into straps under the fly & adjust... I also have a blow pillow & LED light already in the hammock. And reverse when it’s raining keeps the wet fly at one end and the (quite protected) quilt in the hammock all dry.
Very compact and accessible which is exactly what you need at the end of the days ride. Now for tea/coffee and some noodles.
true! haha I will usually eat something simple and stop at a cafe in the morning if im not to far away from one.
UK here. I'm looking to use a 58 patten army sleeping bag, and a basha tent. Will most likely grab food on the go, so will forgo cooking equipment (as cannot afford one right now).
Solid... I’m subbed.
I have been rolling my pad, sleeping bag and pillow in my tent. But so far only on dry days. As Alex says, this could be an issue if you roll up a wet tent.
Nice job on the video BTW.
Bivys were originally developed for climbing, where people needed a shelter with a very small footprint, that is as lightweight and compact as possible. Perfect for situations where "efficiency" is more important than comfort.
I feel that my "Zpacks Duplex" tent is the perfect 3 season shelter for 1 person. Got the "Rab Neutrino 200" down quilt, for warmer weather, and an old "Ferrino Lightec 750 Duvet" down sleeping bag for camping in the spring and fall (maybe down to freezing). My sleeping pad is a "Mountan Equipment Aerostat Syn 7.0 Long", which is a decent pad that can be used pretty much all year, but im thinking of getting a smaller and lighter one for summer use... For a bike, i have a "KTM Race 2.29" MTB, modified with a sturdy rear rack (had to drill holes in the frame for the screws) rated for up to 25kg, with 2 rugged and waterproof 20 liter Alprace Panniers.
For people who insist on using those small bikepacking bags instead of panniers, the Duplex tent is probably too big - but the hammock, tarp, and bugnet from "Hummingbird Hammocks" have a combined size just a little bit bigger than the "Helium Bivy" - and as you dont need a sleeping pad, this setup is perfect for packing in small bikepacking bags. You can modify a long (and ideally also somewhat "wide") sleeping bag with a hole in the bottom, and use it as a pod/cocoon around the hammock, and then you have a much more compact and lightweight option than the usual topquilt and underquilt style. This setup will not allow you to lay diagonally, so you will need to put your hammock up somewhat tightly, for a "straight" parallell lay...
Espen Haug thanks for the comment ! I’ve had my eye on the duplex for a while might pull the trigger on it next spring! not only for bikepacking but backpacking as well!
@@JoshRomeroYT I only got the Duplex last winter, and have only had it out for a few overnighters. Really like it so far, and totally recommend it to anyone who are sufficiently interested in this and who can afford it. Im not sure if the Plexamid (or Altaplex if you are a tall guy) is as good in windy conditions as the Duplex, but it has a smaller footprint, which i think is really nice when looking for a suitable place to set it up. Especially when backpacking in new areas. On my last trip, i was on a small hill/"mountain", and had to search for maybe 45minutes to find a suitable place for my tent. Vegetation was pretty thick on the sides of the trail, and the few open areas i found only had a few inches of soil and moss on top of the rock ground, and was not suitable for tent pegs... So a smaller tent definitely has some advantages. The new freestanding tents from Zpacks would be awesome that day...
I got a Rove ST about three months ago, I've made a number of component changes to it, including Fyxation carbon fork, (best mod!). My three bags are all Apidura, I love them! As for my sleep system: Tent - Big Agnes HV, SL Copper Spur 1p, "bikepacking" model. BA changed the length of the poles to 12" and put it all in a bag that attaches to your handlebars. Quilt - UGQ "Bandit" 30°. Sleeping pad - Nemo "Tensor" insulated. Great sleeping pad, comfortable, easy to inflate and QUIET! With the tent footprint, total weight for my sleep system 5lb 5 oz. Thanks for the videos, once the bikepacking season starts here in Oregon, I'll have some videos and reviews to offer.
52lefty nice let me know when they are up and I’ll check them out ! Cheers !
My dude, I'm argentinian and it must me be first time I've heard anyone pronounce oveja negra correctly :))
haha thanks! soy mitad Mexicano! Saludos
@@JoshRomeroYT wooow I love Mexico!! I'd be really cool if you did un video en español ;)
Oveja negra es difícil de pronunciar..... 10 de 10 para tí
Great video, thanks! Just getting into bikepacking but I've been solo backpacking for years. All looks good but I just don't like these small bivys. I know they are compact and light but I prefer an ultralight tent as it makes me feel more comfortable and safer plus I can't keep nearly everything inside the tent safely.. Just me.
I also have an Outdoor Research Helium. When searching for shelter solutions, I kept seeing people suggest bivy's for solo travelers and I couldn't imagine being that claustrophobic. One of the first bivys I saw with a pole was the OR Helium and I knew I could probably pull that off.
Great video!
When you pronounced negra correctly I hit that sub
I'm digging that bivy, looks a little more breathable than my black diamond four season
First let me congratulate you on making a vlear concise succinct video. So many YT videos take forever to say Nothinh6, yours was awesome.
Thanks for the idea of lightening and compacting my load.
I would also like to know how cold you can go and what about rain and all is wet?
Thanks
That is a sweet set up but it is important to note that the sleeping bag is not a 3 season bag. It is realistically a summer bag, just an FYI!
I agree, it's a budget bag and no way is that very lofty down, so there's no way I'd go below 40 in it lol. You'd have to take a pile of clothes to layer on, at which point it's far more efficient to just carry a quilt vs sleeping bag rated to lower temps
Good video, that's for 5he indepth review
If you have the room? pack a tarp also bivy and tarp combo works well together.
I agree, Some of my gear:
Panniers:
Kitchen - photos.app.goo.gl/WnqJj7b6UxGNSvjg8
Bedroom/Bathroom - photos.app.goo.gl/Psj6sHpoiy7jq3JY7
Primary Sleep System - photos.app.goo.gl/s4ZwacKEVL7obUGv6
Garage - photos.app.goo.gl/wtBkagW4fbfQxnJn7
Bien hecho. I always laugh at the negative comments on most videos. We all know 99.9% of those making the comments will never have the skill or courage to post even one video. I found your system interesting because you don’t use panniers. I’m a minimalist in everything I do these days, so I appreciate your approach. Siempre adelante.
Gracias Enrique, Yes I tend to not focus on those comments. Especially when it comes to such a broad topic like bikepacking. You are right though most of the time their channel has 0 videos. Appreciate your support glad you enjoyed the video! Saludos
Very nice!
Great! And perfectly explained. Thank you.
No problem ! Glad it could help
staying in hotels + b&bs for this year's trip. eyeing this for next year though.
I really want to go on a little bike trip like this with hotels and bandbs. Less camping gear means the riding will be more fun on a lighter bike !
Great video, and also, nice editing. I have a question about the camera bag; if you pass through rough terrain, doesn't the camera or the stuff inside the pouch bounce and hit against the bike itself? I wonder now that I'm considering getting one of those
Hi Vicente thanks! The bag is not padded by any means but the camera fits in there orrery nice so there is not a lot of room for the camera to grab momentum and smack against the bike frame. I have also used this setup on my mountain bike on singletrack and still no broken camera... however I won’t say it can’t happen but so far it hasn’t and I haven’t felt like it would
good quality video, best of luck on YT. Greetings from Poland.
Ps. You have new follower :-)
Appreciate the support ! Cheers !
When it rains, it won't be so great to roll your sleeping bag with the bivy.
Or with condensation,, which bivies get a lot of!! I’d recommend using a water proof stuff sac for your sleeping bag,, 😉👍 Good stuff!!
I prefer the 1 man tent. So I can keep my stuff in the vestibule and pee in private.
Same video in 3 words how to pack ur bike :
Front, middle and rear.
Done.
Videos which discuss a problem where none is.
Still liking it!!
very nice
I like it.
Check out Arkel brand bags too. I have heard they are great for road bikes.
I just carry a normal everyday backpack.
I’ve ridden across USA 4x.
I’ve ridden across India 2x
I’ve ridden across China
I’ve ridden across Aussie
I’ve ridden across Europe
No problem.
This was a great video. I never knew something like the bivy existed. do you find that the insulated sleeping pad is too warm for the summer months?
No not at all. Would rather have a warm one as I can just sleep with the sleeping bag open and be fine. No problems with condensation if I do get too warm though. Have never got up sweating or anything like that.
Hi Spokes. Simon from the UK. Thanks for the nice and simple videos. Any chance of a review on the set up of the bivvy bag and your single sleeping setup as a whole compared to your tent set up.
Cheers
Simon Ward hi Simon yeah I will definitely be getting more bikepacking videos as spring and summer roll around what would you like to see in the comparison ? My tent would take up quite a bit of space compared to a bivy, but yeah I think comparing camping options is something I can do !
@@JoshRomeroYT Hi thanks for the reply. Well I carry a two man tent. I'm prepared to carry the extra weight for the space. But I really liked the look of that Bivvyy bag. Just would like to see how it goes up, inside it and any features. Did you mention the cost? I'll watch again. Also loved the price of that sleeping bag and the size. I'm lucky I've got a brother in Lake Tahoe.😉😉👍 Like the Gorilla tape idea as well. I am using Ortileb bags. Great light, waterproof bags but they haven't extra compartments so you dig around to find what you what you want in the bar bag. Not impressed with the top tube bad either. The handlebar bag and seatpost bag are excellent but I do like the idea of the harness to take the dry bag off. Any experience in different bags. Hey thanks for your time. Looking forward to more great videos and ideas from you.
Nice set-up, and I do much the same but what’s your strategy when something is wet such as bivy/tent?? as rolling it up with my down sleeping bag would only transfer moisture into it + being inside a waterproof handlebar bag adds to the problem
Thnx
I would definitely leave it out of the dry sack. while i havent dealt with this I think a simple solution would be to shake it out as best as you can and roll the wet bivy up on its own. I would then just lay it outside of the dry bag. Letting the oveja negra front loader tighten around it and the dry bag. If you are going on a multi day trip and you get moisture on the first night I'd lay it out as soon as you get to your next camp or if you have an long lunch stop on a sunny day. If you are going on a one night trip i'd still reccommend doing this as when you get home you'd only have one wet item instead of three.
Cheers.
I'm doing the king Alfred's way cycle route solo this year.
A word of warning on the Aegismax bag. It is more a summer bag than a three season bag. I would advise trying it out on a warm, 50 degree night first before you test it's 35 degree temperature rating. Also, make sure you pack extra layers your first couple times using this bag until you figure out your system.
Thought it seemed too good to be true, thanks for the heads up! I'll stick to my Snugpack in a drybag on the back rack! For summer my £10 cheapo sleeping bag will do the trick anyway, in fact I've used it down to 5 C / 41F but inside a bivvy bag, with a fleece liner, was toasty warm undressed!
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Heck yeah! Cheers Bon G!
That's real smart how you roll the three bits of kit together. Can't believe that's a 3 season sleeping bag. I guess maybe if you're wearing your polar bear fur pyjamas....
I still couldn't get rid of the tent over the bivy. I just strap the tent poles outside the front handlebar bags. Front handlebar bag consists of tent, mini oven system, foods. My sleeping bag is stuffed into the saddle bag.
Thank you for these tips! Do you use a pillow???
Hello! I'm finding your vids really helpful and I like your editing style! I'm a bit limited as to bike camping gear here in Colombia. Trying to decide b/t a 15L and 9L handlebar bag? The 15L seems a bit excessive. Do you have any thoughts on which might be the better option? Thanks again for your content. Saludos desde Colombia
Hola Simon! So i think it depends on what you are doing more of. I try my best to purchase bike packing bags that aren’t only used when on a bike packing trip. But can be used on a long day ride or helpful to carry things for a commute.
That being said I think a 9l bag is more than enough to do this. 15l does seem excessive but some people might love that and the fact you can carry more. It’s all personal preference but my preference would be the smaller one and use it more than have a big large bag you don’t use often because it might be too big.
Hope this helps!
Hola!
How many litters has that porcelain rocket dry bag??
Thanks :)
Travel light, freeze all night , my friend. I wouldn’t like to spend too many nights with your sleep system. Looks like you went for smallest/lightest and cheapest? That’s so easy to do. Light, cheap, warm and comfortable? Now there’s the skill. Bivvy bags in summer aren’t too bad or under some sort of shelter. Get a good 3 season one man tent, for serious backpacking or bike packing. Anyway, who cares what I think? Good luck and enjoy your adventure, you’re not likely to do a second one with this gear.
If you’re on a multi day trip and it rains overnight or your bivvy bag gets wet from dew does this change how you repack the next day? Wouldn’t want to put my sleeping bag etc. (Especially a down bag) in with a wet bivvy.
Exactly! It could still work with some lightweight tarp for those definitiely-rainy situations, where the bivy holds the warm air bubble inside and mosquitoes outside ;)
I’m not old but I think It would be a good setup for me
I am a backpacker, bushcrafter, hunter, outdoorsman. That being said, I employ characteristics of all of these in my approach to all my outdoor activities. I have done short bikepacking trips and others may view my setup as heavy. I tend to to be prepared for too much. One reason is that I can carry a lot more comfortably on a bicycle than on my back. I will start my 6th decade this year and sleeping on the ground sucks. Mummy bags suck. The hammock is far and away the most comfortable way to sleep there is......and heavier than your setup.. My choice.
I will live with it. This is no argument.......just my view. Thanks for sharing
What's the name of the pocket knife?? Do you have any links or something??
Just added the knife to the links in the Details :)
much cheaper than when I bought it haha
Question about the packing that has me very confused. Where have you camped where your bivy didn't get wet? Even in dry conditions, condensation in the morning will soak your rain fly/bivy.
Then you roll the wet and muddy bivy into your sleeping bag and sleeping pad? Sounds like a bad idea.
Armin Korsos sleeping bag and pad are inside the bivy if the bivy is moist it won’t wet the sleeping bag and pad since they are inside the bivy. If it is more than moist I’d roll it up tight and put it on the outside of the dry bag
hey man. which shoes are these...? thanks 😊
Thansk for sharing I like that life
How does it compare to my own??? That's the purpose of me watching this video. I don't have one. I'm looking to bike part of the Trans Canada Trail and am researching what to get. Thank you
Thanks for posting
I didn't get the name of the bag or name of contraption that holds the front dry bag
Pls :)
Roger Mainville no problem ROBERT the front bag is the porcelain rocket nugget and the contraption that holds it is the oveja negra front loader
Appreciated TKS
Are there Any disadvantages to packing a bag in a rear rack?? You know the one that fixes to the seat post.. some racks are also extendable. I am considering this for my LA to San Francisco road trip. I have a mountain bike
arbj I’d say the only disadvantage or disadvantages can come from two sources... one being an saddle bag that does not tighten appropriately to your seatpost (some cheaper bags have this problem) the following disadvantage would be if the cyclist is packing it wrong... pack heavier items towards the seatpost and if you can avoid heavy items in it at all (putting them somewhere else on the bike) that’s ideal ... picture having a super heavy heavy I mean heavy saddle... when you are out of the saddle climbing their will be a lot of side to side sway and the bike would feel off.
Besides that I don’t see many more... when it’s raining it acts as a mudguard and when packed right you almost forget it’s there... if you aren’t flexible you might have trouble swinging your leg over it to mount or unmount your bike but other than that they are great !
Stoked On Spokes thanks for the detailed tip, it is definitely very insightful for me as I have never done this before. I plan to use a saddle bag mounted on the top tube, the bag has a window for the phone, and is supposedly water proof. Heavy items could be kept here. The mini pump has a mounting hook that attaches to the bottled cage. The mountain bike has two bottle cages. Also Is staying in models better than camping out (I have never camped out)? The highway1 route shows many motels on the way.
Can you put a link to the Bivy tent please?
Thank you for you videos, I'm a Marine with a full length bionic right leg, since my surgery I've been wanting to get into mountain bike riding. In the Marine Corps we are trained to be minimalist, travel light. I really like your gear setup. I would like to know if you can create a video on the pro's and con's of hard tail vs soft tail mountain bikes that would be a best fit for someone like me. Thank you
SF
How close to freezing temperatures can you ensure with that little down bag?
I wouldn't risk
Is there a link for the bivy tent? Thanks.
What is the temperature range for the sleeping equipment? Can it do between -5 to +10?
What width handlebars do you use? Looks like an 8L nugget? I have a 2020 NRB DL and have been weighing my options for bar bags. My 56cm frame came with 46cm bars which feel a little narrow...did you upgrade at all?
If i'm correct I think it is a 10l nugget. I havent upgraded bars they are the stock bars that come on the rove 54cm The bars are 42 at the hood but 44 at the ends.
I’m not that old to go places so I think that setup would work for me tho if I was older
Love your video style my man! Not sure how many outings you’ve had so far with the bivy, but any shortcomings to speak to at this point? I’m considering jumping into the bivy game as well. Thanks and keep it up!
Havent had too many last year and it was relatively new when I made this video: my only gripe is how bright it is. I went stealth camping with it and got spotted around 6pm by a truck. I waited for them to move and I switched my location as I was unsure if it was their land or they were going to look for trouble.. If I had to buy again id buy the brownish option.
hope this helps
Indeed it does!
hello, what is the tent name ?
Why you don't use a bicycle racks?
Quick question mate as I'm looking to do more bikepacking,do you get issues with the pack away if the bivi is wet?
Step away from the screens pack everything as usual minus the bivy pack that on the outside straps of the front bar bag
Nice oveja negra
which bicycle you have used?
I don’t see the shelter tent link?