Yeah, even if "untransmitable", it's HIV we're talking about, it is highly mutagenic, which is one of the reasons a cure has never been found, what works one moment, will not work eventually, that said, chances are low, but it is not unlikely that at one point the meds stop working on her. That said... would you take the risk?
@@notsoanonymousmemes9455 It's hard to say. Even without the supposed risk of the meds not working having to trust someone to remember to regularly take meds can be unreliable. It is a very good sign of character that she is being upfront about it though.
@@notsoanonymousmemes9455 Not really. If you do it consistently there are basically no risks. It can mutate if you stop taking it consistently at the same time, it can get resistant.
@@Nojipiz Personally, don't trust in those medications, HIV is highly mutagenic, meds can eventually not work against it if the virus so pleases to change.
sleeping with someone that says he has had 8 previous partners is the first mistake, on top of that the girl was a virgin. Second mistake would be to not check the tests and seeing that there were only 2 diseases tested. This is either fake or dumb.
tbh, if the scientific consensus says that transition while under medication would be something like winning the lottery or even less of a chance, I think I might be okay with it. That being said, I don't know any of the science behind it at all.
Every person in this comment section would “personally not date her” and I’m with them. HIV is not something I would want to carry around for the rest of my life. Especially from someone I’m not married with
Consequences of hook up culture = damaged mentally and high risk of sti. Her boyfriend is part of hook up culture. Made me laugh when she said undetectable = untransmittable but if this info is also fake like her test results then rip ig
@@Nojipiz as factual as those test results of her? didnt work out that well did it? if she can transmit but result shows untransmittable, thats why most of them dont wanna get on with her
@--Seratin- If you don't know how HIV treatment works please ask your doctor. undetectable = untransmittable I'm not saying that every guy should sleep with her just without protection, but is makes sex as safer as any other person.
@@Fryzziyeah but that’s the capital cost the child support will be like a profit like but deducting the penalty for giving the forbidden disease to the doctor so its still win 😂😂😂
2:50 Honestly, there's plenty of people that would be willing to compromise and date a girl with issues like this, provided they are made aware of the fact that the virus is untransmittable provided she continuously takes her meds. But last i checked there were alternatives to said meds, namely transplanting organs or tissue from patients that are immune to HIV. Yes, the waiting list is decades long but it provides a permanent solution to the problem.
@@raymondcampusano2991 It's still out of desperation. It's still a huge disadvantage compared to thousands of other girls that don't have it. If you chose the one with a huge disadvantage it means you have no other options, which means you're desperate.
Yeah, right? There are so many issues "normies" have to really worry about that literally don't exist in our lives. The virginity shield makes the whole STI topic a science fiction as far as we are concerned.
I was scared of STDs, no protection would put me at ease, only that "extreme christian monogamy" but still single yet no, I wouldn't. If drugs run dry, it's slippery slope down to AIDS.
I see my girl take birth control every night, I don't worry about her getting preggo because I trust her and know she's responsible. But if she isn't then we have a chance of having child to raise. Why would I want to worry about HIV too, putting myself at the whim of pharma pricing? If your HIV meds become expensive or have supply chain issues, you could get aids and die to a simple infection within a year or two. Sometimes your cards just suck and it's no one else's responsibility to play your hand with you.
Would get with her if she somehow happens to be my soulmate and there is a magic spell that makes it so we never fall out of love from each other. That means no because there's no magic spell like that.
Back then, I remember there was a village in India that broke out in an HIV pandemic, all because of illegal blood transfusion: People were so poor they had to sell their blood for a living on the black market. They get it from unhygienic medical equipment, and the mothers pass the HIV down to their children. It was a nightmare. With that said, HIV carriers shouldn't be denigrated and HIV shouldn't be a synonymy of promiscuity. Today, the biggest reason for HIV remains blood transfusion. My heart goes out to all the poor families.
@@AntithesisDCLXVI Yeah, I wasn't sure because I remembered this was a massive thing but didn't remember exactly where it happened in India, so I just said it was in some village (it was). However, according to the BBC documentary, it spread to more than one village, because some of the folks were trafficked and caged to the village for their blood, so when they were freed they came back home with HIV, hence going beyond more than locally.
2:32 that's actually a pretty reasonable solution but i'm not surprised femanon's standards are still up in the clouds when she herself is a risk not worth the effort
I'm not, been married to my wife (Filipina) both virgin. Thank God I didn't let lust temp me and gave my whole being to my wife. That's one of the consequences of hook up culture.
Wouldn't. I'd be too worried about kids. Would that even be possible with the meds? Would the kids have it? Also if i did date her, that ruins my chances if i break up.
No, the meds have advanced. She can live a normal life like any person. If she takes her medicine everyday, even her kids will born healthy and the HIV cannot be transmitted. People are really ignorant in this day and age. I would rather have that than diabetes.
Tbh idk how that would affect me. I don’t like sex that much and don’t want kids. I also have a somewhat problematic infatuation with a blind half-Chinese chick and a former yakuza-turned-orphanage manager who I stalk incessantly. By the way, have you guys seen him? He’s a Japanese man with a light gray two piece suit and a red shirt and *beautiful eyes*
Statistically correct from the 80s until today, never different, despite a lot of 80s hysteria, but only if the definition was "promiscuous gay men and IV drug users of any sex or orientation", but I wish doctors would know that statistical facts are not going to work out to be the case in every individual case. Plus, if I ask for and pay for a specific thing, I'm going to get that specific thing. And if I get a lethal disease from the doctor failing to do the test I asked for and paid for, he's not just paying out with money.
In the period from the 70s through 2000s that would have seemed nothing out of the ordinary for men, and in the latter part of that era for women either. Nor did more than a tiny fraction of the hetero ones get HIV or any other disease.
Did I miss something, why did she not stay with the initial boyfriend? Most sensible solution is to work out their issues and stick together, since they both have it
@@slashing_S the doctor was negligent and found guilty in court for not running the proper panel, it’s their fault, not necessarily the man’s. At what point did the man lie about his count?
That seems unfair. It was literally her first time, with a long-term partner AND she made him get a full screen test. She only got it because of medical malpractice.
The stupid game is sleeping around carelessly, not having a secure and monogamous relationship. Touch grass and try meeting someone, you might like it.
Undetectable does not mean you absolutely can't transmit. It just means that it's very very unlikely. Even if it's 1 in 10,000 chance, that's still not zero.
I find it disturbing she's plying for sympathy in the dating world. If true, she didn't deserve to get HIV, but ultimately she does have it. Regardless of modern medicine, it's absolutely understandable she'd be treated like she's radioactive. I wouldn't swipe on someone with HIV, and if i met someone who then told me after meeting then I'd just be like "no, sorry". Like why is it a bad thing to want to peotect yourself from that? I dont think she has a right to be upset about that tbh. None at all.
You need to go back to pre-school and work on your reading comprehension. She didnt blame anyone for not wanting her. She is just depressed because she is lonely.
Well, but anyways, most people are really ignorant about HIV. She can even have children and they can born without any sickness as long as she takes her meds.
I certainly would, if she is a good person, sweet, caring and I like how she looks. HIV is not as bad as people think. Undetectable = Untransmittable. As long as she takes her meds, she can even have kids without HIV and never transmit it to me. If I want to be even safer, I could just take prep. She was literally betrayed in a long term relationship, that could happen to anyone, people need more empathy.
Except you're repeating bullshit. It's well known that even if you are undetectable one day, doesn't mean you will not be the next. It's a constant risk to your sex partners and absolutely to any children you have, even if the risk is reduced. It is not a 100% reduction in risk. You are spreading lies.
@levigoldson Not really and if you stop being indetectable is because you stopped taking your meds. That doesnt happen out of nowhere. You are the one spreading ignorance.
I would. New developments in medical science have recently cured HIV but the treatment isn’t widely practiced yet. “Damaged goods” just means no competition.
Don't worry, an equally desperate dude is always there to make competition for you. Thinking you get a girl nobody wants is a fallacy. If you want her, someone else will as well.
I would date her, Even if we never had sex, As long as they are loyal and kind, I dont mind dating anyone Though thats me saying that, Never been in a relationship or in love, or had a crush Then again im also a basement dweller with no concept of a life so that makes sense
@@slashing_S To be frank, I dont think there is a worse situation then getting HIV. I wouldn't say im in a worse situation, I just dont have had any interest to date anyone especially with all the worst case scenarios that can happen from just being in a relationship with someone
You’re looking for the right things in a relationship, king. Date the person for who they are, and if they end up being the person you want to spend the rest of your life with, that’s all that matters. If you’re still unsure about sex even with her being consistent on her meds, just use a condom.
@@Argophobiac condom + meds is still not 100% risk free and if you plan on marrying her and having sex regularly that risk adds up, plus there is a 100% chance if she has kids they will have hiv
fuck no i wouldn't. unfair as fuck to op who seem like a sensible responsible woman but hey, what if the medication active substance is defective in one dose or it gets neutreulize by food or other drugs somehow someday, and that's not even considering the fallaibility of the brain schedule gain... Again, op seems plenty responsible but we humans are not machines and i ain't taking no chances. Funnily enough i s'pose a girl with HIV gets the closest possible experience of dating as an average dude. HAH ! How the turntables ! kek It sure does suck to suck ain't it , op ?
@@raymondcampusano2991 yeah I'm not taking my chances getting an uncurbable disease that can kill you. No thanks I'm good not pussy is worth that much.
She's honorable for being upfront about that. Most people would hear untransmittable with meds and not tell anyone.
Yeah, even if "untransmitable", it's HIV we're talking about, it is highly mutagenic, which is one of the reasons a cure has never been found, what works one moment, will not work eventually, that said, chances are low, but it is not unlikely that at one point the meds stop working on her.
That said... would you take the risk?
@@notsoanonymousmemes9455 It's hard to say. Even without the supposed risk of the meds not working having to trust someone to remember to regularly take meds can be unreliable. It is a very good sign of character that she is being upfront about it though.
@@notsoanonymousmemes9455 Not really. If you do it consistently there are basically no risks. It can mutate if you stop taking it consistently at the same time, it can get resistant.
oh undetectable as long she discipline with taking med?
nah not gonna bet my life on battle between laziness and discipline of another human
Yeah risky.
Usually HIV+ partners could access to PReP or HIV prevention vaccine (you should take it once a year), so it's like double protection.
Birth control pills
@@NojipizI'm sure it's 100% safe and effective
@@Nojipiz Personally, don't trust in those medications, HIV is highly mutagenic, meds can eventually not work against it if the virus so pleases to change.
But but I have a near 400 day duolingo streak 🥺
Also cant they for example takemeds right before fun time?
Asummimg this is real
While yes it's not necessarily your fault
It's not anyone's responsibility to accept that baggage
Me personally I would not.
sleeping with someone that says he has had 8 previous partners is the first mistake, on top of that the girl was a virgin. Second mistake would be to not check the tests and seeing that there were only 2 diseases tested. This is either fake or dumb.
Its not completely 0. Its negligible. There's a difference.
tbh, if the scientific consensus says that transition while under medication would be something like winning the lottery or even less of a chance, I think I might be okay with it.
That being said, I don't know any of the science behind it at all.
@@piggypoo there is still a 0.013 or 0.027 percent chance of getting aids even after doing everything as recommended by the doctor.
Every person in this comment section would “personally not date her” and I’m with them.
HIV is not something I would want to carry around for the rest of my life. Especially from someone I’m not married with
Can't trust girls with regular stuff, sure as hell not gonna trust them with that.
Consequences of hook up culture = damaged mentally and high risk of sti.
Her boyfriend is part of hook up culture. Made me laugh when she said undetectable = untransmittable but if this info is also fake like her test results then rip ig
undetectable = untransmittable.
That isn't an opinion, is a fact.
@@Nojipiz as factual as those test results of her? didnt work out that well did it? if she can transmit but result shows untransmittable, thats why most of them dont wanna get on with her
@--Seratin- If you don't know how HIV treatment works please ask your doctor.
undetectable = untransmittable
I'm not saying that every guy should sleep with her just without protection, but is makes sex as safer as any other person.
@@Nojipiz not even worth the risk. they took doctor's word for it and their whole life changed.
I disagree, they both did everything right, the doctor screwed her over by now knowing his shit essentially.
DELULU IS NOT THE SOLULU
>Sleep with the negligent doctor without taking your meds
>Get preggo and give him hive at the same time
>Now sue him for child support
Problem?
Child is born with hiv?
1.000 IQ idea. Unfortunately, can he sue you now for infecting him, knowingly.
Yeah, you're bringing a child into this world that's going to be born with HIV, that's a huge problem.
@@Fryzziyeah but that’s the capital cost the child support will be like a profit like but deducting the penalty for giving the forbidden disease to the doctor so its still win 😂😂😂
@@Fryzzinot on California
2:50 Honestly, there's plenty of people that would be willing to compromise and date a girl with issues like this, provided they are made aware of the fact that the virus is untransmittable provided she continuously takes her meds. But last i checked there were alternatives to said meds, namely transplanting organs or tissue from patients that are immune to HIV. Yes, the waiting list is decades long but it provides a permanent solution to the problem.
Also condoms.
@@ysgramornorris2452And risk them breaking? Nah, I'm good. Would rather not take the risk
Yea, out of desperation.
@@mrkiky Not really, out of knowledge. People are really ignorant about HIV.
@@raymondcampusano2991 It's still out of desperation. It's still a huge disadvantage compared to thousands of other girls that don't have it. If you chose the one with a huge disadvantage it means you have no other options, which means you're desperate.
I really really wish I could say I'd be willing to date her, but I'm not.
I get that this isn't her fault, but women sure do sleep around and then get worried about being seen as "damaged goods".
No, I wouldn't date someone who has been passed around like a blunt in the first place. 🤣
Agreed
Thankful for another year being a virigin 🙏🙏🙏🙏
Yeah, right? There are so many issues "normies" have to really worry about that literally don't exist in our lives. The virginity shield makes the whole STI topic a science fiction as far as we are concerned.
God bless you for your cleanliness
I was scared of STDs, no protection would put me at ease, only that "extreme christian monogamy" but still single yet no, I wouldn't.
If drugs run dry, it's slippery slope down to AIDS.
I see my girl take birth control every night, I don't worry about her getting preggo because I trust her and know she's responsible. But if she isn't then we have a chance of having child to raise.
Why would I want to worry about HIV too, putting myself at the whim of pharma pricing? If your HIV meds become expensive or have supply chain issues, you could get aids and die to a simple infection within a year or two. Sometimes your cards just suck and it's no one else's responsibility to play your hand with you.
Short answer : No.
Long answer : HELL NO!
So using a condom was not an option? Stupidity at its finest.
Would get with her if she somehow happens to be my soulmate and there is a magic spell that makes it so we never fall out of love from each other.
That means no because there's no magic spell like that.
Wellllllll I can't help it but see her as radioactive
With PreP and PeP there's pretty much 0 risk nowadays... hooray for modern medicine.
No sex before marriage
is that why so many do a*al before marriage?
Real.
Right. Because it's impossible for someone to cheat and you to end up in the exact same position...
Based.
@@chuck2703 that's why you don't go for those type of people.
Back then, I remember there was a village in India that broke out in an HIV pandemic, all because of illegal blood transfusion: People were so poor they had to sell their blood for a living on the black market. They get it from unhygienic medical equipment, and the mothers pass the HIV down to their children. It was a nightmare.
With that said, HIV carriers shouldn't be denigrated and HIV shouldn't be a synonymy of promiscuity. Today, the biggest reason for HIV remains blood transfusion. My heart goes out to all the poor families.
pan means international, local is just an epidemic
Because the western world has little villages with random back alley doctors doing transfusions... gtfoh.
@@AntithesisDCLXVI Yeah, I wasn't sure because I remembered this was a massive thing but didn't remember exactly where it happened in India, so I just said it was in some village (it was). However, according to the BBC documentary, it spread to more than one village, because some of the folks were trafficked and caged to the village for their blood, so when they were freed they came back home with HIV, hence going beyond more than locally.
Not the case here, honey! This one is just too damn stupid, never heard of a fuckin' condon before
You are a liar.
The most common source of HIV transmission is unprotected sex.
2:32 that's actually a pretty reasonable solution but i'm not surprised femanon's standards are still up in the clouds when she herself is a risk not worth the effort
I would not.
Hell nah, but medical advancement is getting close to making it possible
We're all damaged goods, in one way or another. Some get dealt shittier consequences. I feel bad for her but I would most likely not date her, no.
I'm not, been married to my wife (Filipina) both virgin. Thank God I didn't let lust temp me and gave my whole being to my wife. That's one of the consequences of hook up culture.
@@deepdungeon8465He's not talking about only sexually "damaged goods" he is right, everyone has their own baggage and is damaged their own way.
I don't wanna get even more damaged in new ways 😂
Wouldn't. I'd be too worried about kids. Would that even be possible with the meds? Would the kids have it? Also if i did date her, that ruins my chances if i break up.
yes the kids would have it hiv is passed down to your children
No, the meds have advanced. She can live a normal life like any person. If she takes her medicine everyday, even her kids will born healthy and the HIV cannot be transmitted. People are really ignorant in this day and age. I would rather have that than diabetes.
id take my chances with a bit of that spicy air radiation than something you cant get rid of for your entire life. because radiation sounds cooler.
Tbh idk how that would affect me. I don’t like sex that much and don’t want kids.
I also have a somewhat problematic infatuation with a blind half-Chinese chick and a former yakuza-turned-orphanage manager who I stalk incessantly. By the way, have you guys seen him? He’s a Japanese man with a light gray two piece suit and a red shirt and *beautiful eyes*
i feel bad, but no, deal breaker, its "safe" to do alot of things, skydiving, flying, bungie jumping, im not doing them either.
Statistically correct from the 80s until today, never different, despite a lot of 80s hysteria, but only if the definition was "promiscuous gay men and IV drug users of any sex or orientation", but I wish doctors would know that statistical facts are not going to work out to be the case in every individual case. Plus, if I ask for and pay for a specific thing, I'm going to get that specific thing. And if I get a lethal disease from the doctor failing to do the test I asked for and paid for, he's not just paying out with money.
Why would you sleep with someone who says they've slept with 8 people?
Poor judgment which on itself is a red flag.
Because common sense and self esteem are hard to come by when you're raised on influencers and feminism.
In the period from the 70s through 2000s that would have seemed nothing out of the ordinary for men, and in the latter part of that era for women either. Nor did more than a tiny fraction of the hetero ones get HIV or any other disease.
I am pretty sure that is a malpractice suit against the doctor.
She said she sued and won, you really didn't pay attention did you?
Buy the ticket take the ride
Did I miss something, why did she not stay with the initial boyfriend? Most sensible solution is to work out their issues and stick together, since they both have it
Obviously she didn't. Guy was a f-boi.
If they stick together they won't make any more victims
Bro the boyfriend gave it to her and obviously had issues. He didn't know that he had HIV maybe but he lied about his body count and deceived her
@@slashing_S the doctor was negligent and found guilty in court for not running the proper panel, it’s their fault, not necessarily the man’s. At what point did the man lie about his count?
@breakaoz if you read it says he pulled his body count out of his ass
Play stupid games.
Won stupid prizes.
Say stupid shit on the internet.
Look like an insensitive idiot on the Internet.
That seems unfair. It was literally her first time, with a long-term partner AND she made him get a full screen test. She only got it because of medical malpractice.
The stupid game is sleeping around carelessly, not having a secure and monogamous relationship. Touch grass and try meeting someone, you might like it.
why doesn't she just stay with the guy she got it from? She liked him enough to do it with him.
UA-cam poster is a coward for not posting the replies
Probably but wont ever have unprotected sex. Well that's good policy anyways.
What? How can you have a Bern pfp and think this.
Shes not a virgin and gave her v card away to a loser fuckboy
No, just say no
Undetectable does not mean you absolutely can't transmit.
It just means that it's very very unlikely.
Even if it's 1 in 10,000 chance, that's still not zero.
You cant transmit, undetectable = Untransmittable. That is as long as you are responsible taking your meds.
Lucky for you it is a 0/10 000 chance
Modern meds make HIV untransmittable
Who isn't damaged goods?
They got it huh?....
I find it disturbing she's plying for sympathy in the dating world. If true, she didn't deserve to get HIV, but ultimately she does have it. Regardless of modern medicine, it's absolutely understandable she'd be treated like she's radioactive. I wouldn't swipe on someone with HIV, and if i met someone who then told me after meeting then I'd just be like "no, sorry". Like why is it a bad thing to want to peotect yourself from that? I dont think she has a right to be upset about that tbh. None at all.
The pot judging the kettle
You need to go back to pre-school and work on your reading comprehension. She didnt blame anyone for not wanting her. She is just depressed because she is lonely.
@2MeterLP clearly your parents have done a poor job raising you enough to think you can engage with people like this in any medium
Well, but anyways, most people are really ignorant about HIV. She can even have children and they can born without any sickness as long as she takes her meds.
She did specifically say she wasn’t looking for sympathy, just asking what people thought.
Sucks to suck.
This is a fake story
Ya I mean the way she’s talking about std screening before hand they’ve gotta be a d1 heroin consumer
No. Nobody would, nobody should. Lol sucks to suck
Go back under your bridge.
Based
Yes, someone could. Someone that is not ignorant. She could be a great person.
@@raymondcampusano2991she has hiv. The risk might be low but it is never zero.
@@raymondcampusano2991 That person would be just as stupid as she was.
Never
That's really unfortunate.
Something doesn't add up in this story 🤔
LOL WTF?
Ew no
Depends how hot you are
Best answer
I certainly would, if she is a good person, sweet, caring and I like how she looks. HIV is not as bad as people think. Undetectable = Untransmittable. As long as she takes her meds, she can even have kids without HIV and never transmit it to me. If I want to be even safer, I could just take prep. She was literally betrayed in a long term relationship, that could happen to anyone, people need more empathy.
Except you're repeating bullshit. It's well known that even if you are undetectable one day, doesn't mean you will not be the next. It's a constant risk to your sex partners and absolutely to any children you have, even if the risk is reduced. It is not a 100% reduction in risk. You are spreading lies.
@levigoldson Not really and if you stop being indetectable is because you stopped taking your meds. That doesnt happen out of nowhere. You are the one spreading ignorance.
@@levigoldson Except you know nothing and should study more before writing BS.
@@levigoldson The will always be unless they stop taking their meds.
Fake
Lol fake story
aHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHAHAHhahahahahaaha get rekt
I would. New developments in medical science have recently cured HIV but the treatment isn’t widely practiced yet. “Damaged goods” just means no competition.
Don't worry, an equally desperate dude is always there to make competition for you. Thinking you get a girl nobody wants is a fallacy. If you want her, someone else will as well.
Fake. Every test is another bill they can send to the insurance companies.
yeah they might have wanted to run more tests instead of less.
Most dishonest people in the comments
I would date her, Even if we never had sex, As long as they are loyal and kind, I dont mind dating anyone
Though thats me saying that, Never been in a relationship or in love, or had a crush
Then again im also a basement dweller with no concept of a life so that makes sense
This does make sense because you are in a worse situation than her and lacking connection even more
@@slashing_S To be frank, I dont think there is a worse situation then getting HIV. I wouldn't say im in a worse situation, I just dont have had any interest to date anyone especially with all the worst case scenarios that can happen from just being in a relationship with someone
You’re looking for the right things in a relationship, king. Date the person for who they are, and if they end up being the person you want to spend the rest of your life with, that’s all that matters. If you’re still unsure about sex even with her being consistent on her meds, just use a condom.
@@Argophobiac condom + meds is still not 100% risk free and if you plan on marrying her and having sex regularly that risk adds up, plus there is a 100% chance if she has kids they will have hiv
fuck no i wouldn't.
unfair as fuck to op who seem like a sensible responsible woman but hey, what if the medication active substance is defective in one dose or it gets neutreulize by food or other drugs somehow someday, and that's not even considering the fallaibility of the brain schedule gain...
Again, op seems plenty responsible but we humans are not machines and i ain't taking no chances.
Funnily enough i s'pose a girl with HIV gets the closest possible experience of dating as an average dude. HAH ! How the turntables !
kek
It sure does suck to suck ain't it , op ?
You are imagining scenarios that dont happen, and even if it happens a day, she has to stop taking it for some time before it has a negative effect.
@@raymondcampusano2991 yeah I'm not taking my chances getting an uncurbable disease that can kill you. No thanks I'm good not pussy is worth that much.