Using The Bizarre Keyboard and Mouse Controls of KH2

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  • @StickmanSham
    @StickmanSham  8 місяців тому +154

    DEFAULT KEYBOARD AND MOUSE CONTROLS:
    Attack/Confirm Menu - Left Click or Enter
    Jump/Cancel Menu - Space Bar or Backspace
    Guard/Dodge - Right Click or Right Shift
    Reaction Commands - F or Right CTRL
    Pause - M or 4
    FPS mode - N or 3
    Open Shortcuts - Left Shift
    Lock-on - R
    Toggle Cursor Controls (the thing that lets you control the command menu with the right stick) - C
    Change lock on target - E
    movement is on the typical WASD
    Walk - Alt (this forces you to slow-walk, but it breaks and makes Sora run if you turn the mouse)
    Reset Camera - Middle Mouse or Right Alt
    menuing is done with either the arrow keys or the mouse wheel for up/down and side mouse buttons for left/right
    (the camera behaves differently with the mouse, thats why its like glued to sora instead of drifting behind him)
    overall, after 4 streams and a full playthrough of KH2, I actually think these controls are sane? they look really weird on paper, but when you get your hands on it, its actually a really good attempt to make an extremely controller-specific layout work with a mouse and keyboard. I could absolutely see someone who uses mouse and keyboard for these games having a slight advantage over controller players; fighting Sephiroth with the extra field of view provided by the mouse and the mashing speed of clicking on the mouse made me land stuff like slapshot/reflect combos without missing a single beat. if it didn't look so weird with the way the camera behaves differently, i might've considered using it in the long term, but it probably sucks for stuff like KH1 where the camera is waaaay more limited

    • @jeffpussylol2578
      @jeffpussylol2578 8 місяців тому

      Ngl these controls don’t seem weird at all. The only strange one I see is pause being mapped to an and not escape. Everything else is pretty standard for a third person action game on pc

    • @johangelrodriguez6835
      @johangelrodriguez6835 8 місяців тому +7

      Wtf are those bindings Jesus Christ?
      Like, I usually play with Keyboard, no mouse, and I just treat the Keyboard like a PS2 Controller
      WASD for movement
      Triangle = Numerical 8
      Square = Numerical 4
      Circle = Numerical 6
      X = Numerical 2
      L = Q
      L2 = 2
      L3 = Z
      R = E
      R2 = 4
      R3 = 0
      D Pad = 4 Directionals
      Right Joystick= IJKL
      Like, there's no other way to play KH2 with mouse, any other bimding just sounds weird

    • @oni-linkle4880
      @oni-linkle4880 8 місяців тому

      I managed to beat roxas on crit keyboard only, no mouse involved, so they have some degree of usability.

    • @tsyumamatsuthehavenofguard32
      @tsyumamatsuthehavenofguard32 8 місяців тому +1

      ...bro this sounds like it's very easy to force sticky keys for certain bosses.

  • @unboundsoul3582
    @unboundsoul3582 8 місяців тому +412

    Press F to play reflects?

  • @RealRamona
    @RealRamona 8 місяців тому +180

    Xigbar: "R for reload"

    • @LilacMonarch
      @LilacMonarch 8 місяців тому +20

      "Now we're talking!" (while being completely shredded)

    • @hasshenjo6416
      @hasshenjo6416 8 місяців тому +3

      I gotcha now!

    • @econmatthew2598
      @econmatthew2598 8 місяців тому +9

      Now i imagine Xigbar/Luxu is a Keyboard and Mouse player and probably loves lots of FPS games

    • @panduvandal
      @panduvandal 4 місяці тому +1

      "Switching to a keyblade is faster than reloading"

  • @fiz8618
    @fiz8618 8 місяців тому +91

    KH2 with KB+M is better than expected.
    KH3 with KB+M turned me into a god.

  • @GamerLMA
    @GamerLMA 8 місяців тому +27

    F. What a wonderful letter already covered in accolades. It now joing triangle and y in the reaction command hall of fame

  • @CheeBorgisagoodname
    @CheeBorgisagoodname 8 місяців тому +121

    I love that you still kept the Ultra Instinct Goof picture for Goofy 😂

  • @ezekielduncan2352
    @ezekielduncan2352 8 місяців тому +13

    Sham's "Jackpot!" at the end sounded EXACTLY like Dante. I'm impressed!

  • @drawhou9356
    @drawhou9356 8 місяців тому +10

    46:00 "Press F to re[F]lect"

  • @LilacMonarch
    @LilacMonarch 8 місяців тому +17

    Don't squander your time.

  • @RoseTerraW14
    @RoseTerraW14 7 місяців тому +5

    Take a shot everytime Sham says "bitch"- Blackout before you're halfway through the video

  • @xAbsolution1
    @xAbsolution1 8 місяців тому +27

    Bro, my ps5 controller disconnected in the middle of Ven's Enchanted Dominion visit after i released Aurora's heart. The game wouldnt pick up my controller after i turned it back on. I couldnt reach save point and had to fight Maleficient on my first playthrough with keyboard and mouse. Horrible

  • @stonedmoth
    @stonedmoth 8 місяців тому +11

    babe wake up new stickman sham vid just dropped

  • @CaptainStraya
    @CaptainStraya 8 місяців тому +8

    I’m sure bbs is a special kind of hell with keyboard and mouse

  • @yV__Vy
    @yV__Vy 8 місяців тому +25

    just found your channel and this video, it's really helping me relax as i do my programming homework so I subscribed! looking forward to more videos by you!

    • @StickmanSham
      @StickmanSham  8 місяців тому +19

      you'll love my stream archive channel if you like this style of long-form playthrough content

    • @JI0MB
      @JI0MB 5 місяців тому +1

      @@StickmanSham can vouch

    • @arson_e.
      @arson_e. 2 дні тому +1

      thank you for the idea, i'm about to try this

  • @futureqiqimain4601
    @futureqiqimain4601 8 місяців тому +23

    I just can't imagine anyone playing kh with mouse and keyboard
    It's just very out of blue

    • @SheriffJake_
      @SheriffJake_ 8 місяців тому +3

      Currently suffering through KH3 with m+kb, because the first time I held a controller was with 18, so I never got used to them, it's the only way I can play 99% of games. The 1% are Nintendo games with a Pro Controller.

    • @SmashtoonGamer
      @SmashtoonGamer 8 місяців тому +1

      This how I played my second playthrough of 1 and first playthrough of 2, and Ven’s story in bbs. I got a controller a few months ago so now I can join the war about which button cure is on

    • @futureqiqimain4601
      @futureqiqimain4601 8 місяців тому +1

      @@SmashtoonGamer without a doubt cure is square
      Reflect is circle

    • @Cheesepoop
      @Cheesepoop 8 місяців тому +1

      @@futureqiqimain4601objectively wrong

    • @matamatmassivetac5789
      @matamatmassivetac5789 8 місяців тому

      It's how I played all the games when I first got the Epic Games ports. It was very funny to work with, especially the camera shenanigans. But I somehow managed. Then I got a controller. Let me tell you, I was somehow worse with that.

  • @foster2095
    @foster2095 8 місяців тому +25

    iiiiii'm SO FLAT

    • @slime_jelly201
      @slime_jelly201 8 місяців тому +21

      transmascs after their binder arrives in the mail:

    • @Plagiarismm
      @Plagiarismm 8 місяців тому +4

      Naoto Shirogane (presumed.)

    • @JPNEETozaki
      @JPNEETozaki 8 місяців тому +4

      ​@slime_jelly201 what?

  • @moon3117
    @moon3117 8 місяців тому +6

    Paper Mario be like: im so FLAT!

  • @maxturbo45
    @maxturbo45 8 місяців тому +7

    46:06 if you set the playback speed to 0.25×, tou can see Ruki's model freak out LMFAO

    • @ImaPizzaK
      @ImaPizzaK 8 місяців тому +7

      ruki is a handsome guy

  • @unnusannus6193
    @unnusannus6193 8 місяців тому +11

    Press F to pay for commands

  • @seanbot10
    @seanbot10 8 місяців тому +11

    Me when kh keyboard and mouse camera go brrrrrrrrrr

  • @destroyermcw626
    @destroyermcw626 8 місяців тому +7

    The Keyboard has been forged!

  • @sceptiletasukengaming
    @sceptiletasukengaming 8 місяців тому +7

    F to reflext

  • @rollinjay8214
    @rollinjay8214 7 місяців тому +2

    This seems like a perfect game for analog stick movements but mouse for attacking. Would probably feel even better than this

  • @Zenriesz
    @Zenriesz 8 місяців тому +9

    43:28 That was probably the coolest thing I've ever seen anyone do in KH2, I assume magic lock-on lets you do that?

  • @MadValraven
    @MadValraven 8 місяців тому +21

    always played KH with controller, but recently my controller broke and i played KH3 from start to finish with mouse and keyboard, it was actually pretty good, at the star the adaptation phase was rough, but since i already played the game, on the second world i was already pretty familiar with the controllers

    • @jacksonlatch2165
      @jacksonlatch2165 8 місяців тому

      KH3 is the best keyboard and mouse Kingdom hearts for shotlocks alone.

  • @ars3n3_lup1n2
    @ars3n3_lup1n2 8 місяців тому +7

    I honestly find kh with mouse and keyboard really comfortable

  • @Seekay37
    @Seekay37 8 місяців тому +34

    I actually play all the KH games with KB+M, I think it works just fine for the most part but some minigames or whatever are clearly designed with joysticks and then break with mouse input. Also the camera sensitivity is all over the place which is annoying but you get used to it. Back in the day I used to play keyboard only on PCSX2 lmao, still worked fine though. I would have loved them to take full advantage of the keyboard for the PC ports so you could bind individual commands to keys, how cool would that be?

  • @JxBatterymanTTV
    @JxBatterymanTTV 8 місяців тому +6

    SCROLL WHEEL SPEED!!?!?!

  • @Ryanzusa
    @Ryanzusa 7 місяців тому +3

    Something about how the camera functions on keyboard and mouse just looks so unbelievebly cursed to me idk why

  • @valentinecure329
    @valentinecure329 8 місяців тому +4

    didn't even know carpet could move like that. 15:17

  • @Lunarzac
    @Lunarzac 8 місяців тому +3

    This will be a gem video

  • @GeorgeCowsert
    @GeorgeCowsert 6 місяців тому +1

    We need a KH game on PC that is meant for PC. Imagine actually getting to use the number keys for spells like in MMO's.
    Edit: fuck it, I got nothing better to do. Imma theorycraft a dumb idea for a PC exclusive take on the command deck.
    Instead of using MP to cast spells, take the BBS/ReCoded/DDD approach to special abilities, where you create a deck of commands that automatically cycle when you use them.
    However
    Instead of it being one long list, you always have four options available, which are activated with the 1, 2, 3, & 4 keys respectively. Using one will cycle all four options, but holding down one of the number buttons allows you to combine commands. This function can also be used on the normal attack button to trigger special combos.
    I think the idea of shotlocks and airstep should also make a return for PC. On console, it feels super clunky and risky in even the best of circumstances. On PC, it is absurdly easy to just look at an enemy and either zoom at them or blast 'em with free ranged damage. As a mechanic, it legitimately works better on PC.
    An experimental change I want to see playtested would be ditching the idea of combos automatically homing in on enemies.
    It's a staple of Kingdom Hearts, hence why I say it'd need playtesting, but I feel like PC is far better suited for run 'n' gun combat than the kind of combat KH has.
    The mouse just provides so much control that it becomes really easy for players to orient themselves, so they shouldn't need to home-in on enemies to be effective.
    I can see some potential problems with air combat, but if airstep is present then that doesn't really matter.

  • @bluestar_kun
    @bluestar_kun 7 місяців тому

    I had this playing while I was playing Starfield on another screen, and I look over at 28:42 just to see the goofy party member icons

  • @LaCazaLP
    @LaCazaLP 8 місяців тому +8

    i swear its not even hype at all.
    but damn the Mouswheel strats are hype for me.

  • @Dinjoralo.
    @Dinjoralo. 7 днів тому

    I think Keyboard and Mouse controls could work really well, if you could separate bindings from buttons.
    As in, Circle is both for jumping and going back in menus, but I'd prefer jump on Space and menu-back on Right-Click. Lots of things like that make it feel impossible to make a control scheme that's natural both in combat and menus.

  • @Simeo905
    @Simeo905 8 місяців тому

    speaking of which i was just watching one of the streams for this particular thing when I was eating lunch lol so this is a welcome surprise

  • @Flufferpup
    @Flufferpup 8 місяців тому +15

    Honestly, anything other than a playstation controller just feels so viscerally wrong to me lol

  • @econmatthew2598
    @econmatthew2598 8 місяців тому +1

    Keyboard and Mouse is definitely the best for Duel Stance, as scroll wheel and button spam is op as fuck.

  • @destroyermcw626
    @destroyermcw626 8 місяців тому +1

    I was wondering when someone would do this.

  • @lumaseed6490
    @lumaseed6490 8 місяців тому +3

    Once again Jack

  • @arson_e.
    @arson_e. 2 дні тому

    10:07 bro thinks he's part of the team 💀

  • @BreathWeapon
    @BreathWeapon 6 місяців тому

    The game looks completly different, at least camera view wise, it gives it a bit less flow (especially with the WASD movement) but it looks like a honestly fun/good way to play it watching this! The major downside is that KH2 doesn't seem like it was optimised for keyboard controls

  • @emashane7035
    @emashane7035 8 місяців тому +1

    i remapped my controls for pc kh but i like it on mouse in keyboard (most of the time)

  • @DonFreecssCL
    @DonFreecssCL 8 місяців тому +1

    Good fight!👍🏿

  • @niteriemcfarlane5285
    @niteriemcfarlane5285 8 місяців тому

    so do ya GOT IT MEMORIZED stickman 😏

  • @Hardridge
    @Hardridge 8 місяців тому +3

    i hate how you can tell he playing on keyboard and mouse too

    • @arson_e.
      @arson_e. 2 дні тому

      the mashing noises are hilarious 😭

  • @mohitonon-alco4287
    @mohitonon-alco4287 8 місяців тому +1

    The vertical sensitivity on mouse is way too high for some reason

  • @Edkkiiid
    @Edkkiiid 8 місяців тому

    I remember I best final mix eng patch on pcsx2 using only a keyboard. Been playing only deck recently and don’t know how I did it

  • @jacksonlatch2165
    @jacksonlatch2165 8 місяців тому

    I beat most of my critical mode run on this video, I state before the video starts, lets see how this goes.
    (Used a controller randomly just cause comfort and used to it, and for gummie segments.)

  • @elmaxo4942
    @elmaxo4942 8 місяців тому +2

    It's only possible to play with keyboard and mouse in the epic games version right?

    • @thepotatoking13
      @thepotatoking13 8 місяців тому +8

      I mean theoretically you could emulate the game and bind all the controls to keyboard and mouse that way too. Legally though, yeah the Epic Games port is the only way you can iirc

  • @KevinEontrainer381
    @KevinEontrainer381 5 місяців тому

    Press F to pay reflects

  • @Roxas1510
    @Roxas1510 4 місяці тому

    I'am SO FLAR-

  • @Rundas0
    @Rundas0 8 місяців тому +1

    can u do chimken lil fps mode on keyboiard ouse??? itd be like an fpx xD

  • @GhilliedWDB
    @GhilliedWDB 8 місяців тому

    F FOR GODSPEED

  • @pengeyboss
    @pengeyboss 6 місяців тому +1

    Why is xigbar upside down

  • @majorasamtheo-door7007
    @majorasamtheo-door7007 8 місяців тому

    What’s the roxas voice mod called?

    • @ryyyyyyn
      @ryyyyyyn 8 місяців тому +9

      its roxas original voice on nexusmods iirc

  • @MarioMarioPlushGUY
    @MarioMarioPlushGUY 8 місяців тому

    Is this the Epic Games port?

  • @PandaKook
    @PandaKook 8 місяців тому +1

    Freflect