the quality of this content is AMAZING, straight and clear. thank you for throwing a light on that importent subject. as a player from Israel, I have no proffesionals players in our local community to help me develop my skill, and I believe many other players around the world could relate.
Thank you for the encouragement! I'm 13 years old and I've been trying to get a cut serve for a while now. I started to feel like it would never happen, but I think I might get it soon, thanks!
It is very hard to actually get corkscrew spin from hitting/serving a ball and what most cut serves do is give the ball “left”side spin which wouldn’t normal make the ball jump if you were aiming straight horizontally in front of you (because the axis of rotation is perpendicular to the net’s plane of contact so the ball’s surface isn’t sliding against the net creating friction to change direction) but it does because we hit downwards at a net so side spin generated in the direction of travel will generate some corkscrew component of spin relative to the net. if that makes sense.
Awesome comment! Agree with this with one caveat, at the top-level (pro) players are hitting the ball with substantially more left corkscrew-spin than left side-spin. When teaching cut serves, we almost always emphasize left corkscrew-spin as the goal since purely left side-spin would either jump slightly in the wrong direction or not jump at all off of the net. There is merit to left side-spin, however, as it seems to be a point of natural progression towards getting more left corkscrew-spin.
@@RevisedRoundnet I dont think anybody is serving having your number 6 sidespin (rotating around the z axis). Its just not physically possible they way we contact the ball on cut serve. Reverse on the other hand is totally different as there it has a 5 spin. if you have a video of someone actually managing to serve where it has a 6 spin (rotating around z axis) i would like to see that :D
I like this video! It clearly defines what each type of serve does! I also like how you emphasized the idea that not every serve is learned the same way with the same mechanics! Each server is unique! Great job
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Id say its if you have two different serves that you are very good at. Especially left and right cut because if you only have one no matter what the opponent will adapt to it. Easiest serve to learn is probably the jam then I would go for a cut serve.
Hi Moritz, great question! For sidespin (y-axis) in particular, the grippiness of the ball plays a role as well as the direction the ball is travelling in. If you were to hit a table tennis ball with right side-spin, it would most certainly travel left off the bounce. A forward-travelling basketball (or Spikeball) with the same right side-spin would result in a less dramatic jumping effect but it would still jump left. However, if you were to simply drop a basketball (or Spikeball) with right side-spin, the rubbers would grip the ground so hard that it would react with the opposite spin.
We encourage everyone to try different spins themselves to see how they react in person. Definitely gives you a deeper understanding to do it yourself!
I think I actually disagree with both of these. A ball with perfect sidespin (i.e. no corkscrew spin at all) won't change its trajectory after the bounce. A ball with left sidespin + topspin will travel left, while a ball with left sidespin + backspin will travel right (and opposite for right sidespin). I think that what looks like right sidespin in table tennis is actually right sidespin + backspin. However, pure right sidespin will curve left *in the air*. I'm not 100% confident on all of this but I don't understand the physics of how it would work otherwise.
I also have a hard time understanding why a ball with only side spin would change trajectory when leaving the net. Is it because It has a forward speed and it's not only dropped? That would be the only thing I can think of that would make sense
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the quality of this content is AMAZING, straight and clear. thank you for throwing a light on that importent subject.
as a player from Israel, I have no proffesionals players in our local community to help me develop my skill, and I believe many other players around the world could relate.
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Thank you for the encouragement! I'm 13 years old and I've been trying to get a cut serve for a while now. I started to feel like it would never happen, but I think I might get it soon, thanks!
It is very hard to actually get corkscrew spin from hitting/serving a ball and what most cut serves do is give the ball “left”side spin which wouldn’t normal make the ball jump if you were aiming straight horizontally in front of you (because the axis of rotation is perpendicular to the net’s plane of contact so the ball’s surface isn’t sliding against the net creating friction to change direction) but it does because we hit downwards at a net so side spin generated in the direction of travel will generate some corkscrew component of spin relative to the net. if that makes sense.
Awesome comment! Agree with this with one caveat, at the top-level (pro) players are hitting the ball with substantially more left corkscrew-spin than left side-spin. When teaching cut serves, we almost always emphasize left corkscrew-spin as the goal since purely left side-spin would either jump slightly in the wrong direction or not jump at all off of the net. There is merit to left side-spin, however, as it seems to be a point of natural progression towards getting more left corkscrew-spin.
@@RevisedRoundnet I dont think anybody is serving having your number 6 sidespin (rotating around the z axis). Its just not physically possible they way we contact the ball on cut serve. Reverse on the other hand is totally different as there it has a 5 spin.
if you have a video of someone actually managing to serve where it has a 6 spin (rotating around z axis) i would like to see that :D
@@1nf3ct3dTT agreed. this is also why i think reverses can jump more then regular cuts
I like this video! It clearly defines what each type of serve does! I also like how you emphasized the idea that not every serve is learned the same way with the same mechanics! Each server is unique! Great job
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hey man just wanna say the videos you posted have exponentially helped me see roundnet more clearly. I can’t wait to see what videos you guys keep coming up with!
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What is the most difficult serve for the reciver? Btw Great content my frien!!
Id say its if you have two different serves that you are very good at. Especially left and right cut because if you only have one no matter what the opponent will adapt to it. Easiest serve to learn is probably the jam then I would go for a cut serve.
@@eidenkahn7162 right, also it can be more lethal if the posture and body movement during rhe serve is really similar
At 2:48: Isn't it exactly the other way round? Meaning it has to be: a ball with right side spin, will go to the right and so on?!
Hi Moritz, great question!
For sidespin (y-axis) in particular, the grippiness of the ball plays a role as well as the direction the ball is travelling in. If you were to hit a table tennis ball with right side-spin, it would most certainly travel left off the bounce. A forward-travelling basketball (or Spikeball) with the same right side-spin would result in a less dramatic jumping effect but it would still jump left. However, if you were to simply drop a basketball (or Spikeball) with right side-spin, the rubbers would grip the ground so hard that it would react with the opposite spin.
We encourage everyone to try different spins themselves to see how they react in person. Definitely gives you a deeper understanding to do it yourself!
I think I actually disagree with both of these. A ball with perfect sidespin (i.e. no corkscrew spin at all) won't change its trajectory after the bounce. A ball with left sidespin + topspin will travel left, while a ball with left sidespin + backspin will travel right (and opposite for right sidespin). I think that what looks like right sidespin in table tennis is actually right sidespin + backspin. However, pure right sidespin will curve left *in the air*. I'm not 100% confident on all of this but I don't understand the physics of how it would work otherwise.
I also have a hard time understanding why a ball with only side spin would change trajectory when leaving the net. Is it because It has a forward speed and it's not only dropped? That would be the only thing I can think of that would make sense
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