This Will Improve Your Surface Using Scrapers
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- Опубліковано 6 лют 2025
- This was really fun video as I learn through little experiment.... Never stop testing out new way to improve.
Hope you enjoy and I really hope this will help some begginers out there.
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disclaimer Methods that are shown works great for me and they are not only methods out there, if you find this or any other method not comfortble,please use some other way.
Thank you and enjoy
Tomislav, As a 89 year old hobbyist Windsor chair and table builder I have turned many spindles. Your excellent narratives and videos have improved my turning and tool knowledge and encourage me to expand my turning activity. I join Gerald Moore's attitude that you are a master turner and teacher. Thank you
Thank you soo much sir, you are inspiration to all of us doing what you like and having age just as a number.
Thank you for that
Tomislav, I always enjoy your teaching videos. I have been doing this as a hobby for a long time, but I always pick up things that help me. So don't let no one tell you that an old dog can't learn new tricks, this one is 82 years young.
Thank you sir,It means a lot
You are by far one of the very best teachers of wood turning on UA-cam!!! Thank you for all the time you take to produce these videos! Looking forward to being able to get your refiner!
Thank you soo much Amy, I try my best 😀
This video helped me quite a bit. I just got a burnisher, and when I used it, I was really disappointed. It just didn't give me a good burr. After watching your video, I realized I was rolling the edge over way too much, leaving me with a rounded edge with no burr. Thank you for your help.
This is FANTASTIC content - you and Richard Raffan use scrapers all the time, and you are both EXTREMELY good with them. This very in-depth video on what may seem like a "simple" topic shows the pros and cons of the different grinds, with real-world examples.
Also, we all know that your hands/fingers are MUCH stronger than most of ours! So, our burr won't match yours, but we can see what to expect when we get a burr that does/might match yours!
Thank you again for all that you do for the community!
Thank you very much for kind words and support 😀
For a two year wood turner that only works 2 or 3 hrs. a day it was very hard for me to get started. I find your videos very informative with the relationships of different thicknesses, curves, angle of grinds etc. I began by thinking a gouge was a gouge. A skew a skew, etc. I wish I'd started by understanding the grinds and how to use them properly. Just learning one day that the heal of the grind can be different angles for different accomplishments. It would have helped me immeasurably. Ie. Might not be able to transition to the bottom interior of the bowl to the side.
You are doing a good job so keep it up. Very small things can save us six months of learning on our own. Thank you and thanks for forwarding on Richard's knowledge, there will be an encyclopedia of knowledge lost when we lose that man.
No, the knowledge will not be lost, because we have Tomislav 👍
Greetings Andreas
Thank you buddy
Really glad to hear that and I'm honored to be able to help out
Very interesting, very informative. For months now, I have had a honing stone to touch up the edge of my Scrapers. I think I will also now start to experiment with a Burnisher to see what results I get. Thank you.
Fantastic teaching job!Thank you!
This video is an excellent reference for me to keep. Thank you for demonstrating the importance of the angles and variations of burrs.
Glad to help out 😀
thanks again Tomislav - i don't think our turning group has a single meeting without some mention of your videos. one of our members asked me about scraper angles and i referred him to this video.
Thank you, I really appriciate that you reccomend and your turning group as well
Thanks, Tomi. Really good explanations of the why's and how's the sharpening design matters. To properly turn wood, sharpening is an essential skill that needs to be learned.
That is soo true...
Thanks!
Thank you soo much 😀
Tomi, another in depth and helpful video, thank you. I did the bottom of a small platter yesterday using only scrapers and will do the top this evening. Having tried the burr straight of the CBN then from a diamond file, I will try a burnisher later.
Since watching you and Richard for a few years now I always use my scrapers to finish off, using your techniques. I now have as many scrapers as bowl gouges! Once I get one of your signature scrapers I will convert one of my scrapers into a diamond scraper. I have a small 1/2” one but it is not really strong enough for some work. Once again, thank you for your video and time.
Thank you very much, glad to hear my videos help out ☺️
So helpful to see all these experimental iterations of the grind angle and burr longevity.
I dont have a CBM, so I like that one can get similar and maintainable results using a sharper bevel with a renewable burnished edge.
If you use pink or white wheel they are good as well cbn is nice comfort,but not nessesity
Great description, thanks for putting this out there. Yes, Mr Raffan a great teacher.
Best teacher out there 😀
I love your teaching technique and how you develop the subject through all the stages, thanks Tomislav 😊
Thank you very much Kevin
The video came out on time! I just found a file made of steel from the USSR. And the steel was super back then! Now I know exactly what to do! Thank you!
No problem,glad to help
This is a great video!!
I have changed all my scrappers to your angle!
Now I use the scrapers more with excellent results!
Awsome to hear that☺️thank you for watching
I was finishing a olive bowl today using some of your techniques with my scraper and got excellent results. I have always used a very "blunt" angle of what I call 8 degrees but you would call about 80 to 82 degrees. The burr does leave but I was taking very light cuts and it lasted for a few turns. I have one scraper at about 45 degrees and it does tend to grab more often as I use a lot of figured wood with branches, voids, etc. Great video.
Thank you sir for feedback 😀
Your in-depth demonstrations and explanations are remarkable! If I ever make it to Croatia, the rakia is on me. Živeo, dude! (I hope I got that right)
Thanks Michael, you said it right sir and yes I ascept 👍
Great video Tomislav, very interesting 👍
Thank you for a great video. Scrapers are definitely the most challenging tools to master. I consider myself pretty good but your scraper vids are next level. They have opened up quite a bit of new capabilities for me. So thank you. What size is your refiner scraper? 1”?
Thank you very much, be gentle with scrapers and keep the burr up and very light touch for finish, Thank you for very kind words and it is 1 inch by 1/4 inch
brilliant Tomi and very timely. I have just made a new tungsten burnisher and now using your guidance I'm off to the grinder to experiment and I think I'm going to try reducing to about 60 deg first and see how we go !
Tungsten is very good for this, good luck and keep on experiment
Interesting. I've had no instruction re rolling a burr; I thought a lot of pressure on a bench mounted burnishing tool was the way to go. Thanks!
Really really gives me great perspective on the advantages of doing this way!
Thanks Tomislav. Love your technique. I learn a lot. : )
Glad to hear that, thank you very much for watching
Thanks Tomislav! I used to think scraping and sanding should be kept to a minimum, but the way you use scrapers is remarkable and I am using them more often. Thanks.I have a question? did you get the start/stop button sorted?
Thank you, glad to help out, and yes, if you mean about dust collector switch, Yes I have... its not just few steps away
Aha! Very interesting. I haven't yet started on this hobby but plan to soon (currently building the workshop). Your videos are going to get a lot of re-watching by me. 😅
Not sure if this will help but you could refer to your grinding angles as being more 'acute' (sharper) or more 'obtuse' (less sharp).
Thank you for that suggestion, I'll try to remember it😉
Hi Tomislav, mate another great video explaining the benefits of each angle. Refresh my memory why do you cut the edge i on the scrapers . I think from one of your other videos is it because it allows you to finish the edge of a piece. Look forward to. Your response.
Greatly appreciated again.
Thank you very much,no problem, its beacuse to shear scrape into corners and also to put quick details on let say bottom of the plate or bowls
Thanks for this video Tomislav. Really helpful. Looking forward to your signature tool release!
Thank you
Great explanations. Gives me a lot to consider and to experiment with on my own scrapper.
Great work Buddy! Can't wait to get my hands on one of them Refiners😅
Thanks Ray, very very Shorty
Thank you for this explanation ….. I am learning that proper sharpening techniques is critical to be able to turn out decent projects 🤠🇨🇱
Thank you Randy ☺️
Super informative video, thank you Tomislav.
Very interesting video. This had some great information and it was interesting seeing the comparison between angles.
Thank, I appriciate that ☺️
Very educational. Interesting to see the differences. Thanks!
Thanks Joris
Brilliant explanation, I could never understand why everyone stated 80degree and you and Richard use 45degree. Now we can see why, one stroke of the burnisher looked a good introduction to using the hook method. Cheers Geoff
Thank you sir 😀
Great video, I am going to experiment.. Thank you
Great video tomislav very informative,
Will😊👍
Thanks buddy
Thank you for sharing your knowledge.
The grabby effect seen in the 45 degree happens because there is less material thus it needs less pressure to penetrate into the wood (a dig in) the 80 degree one has so much metal behind it the edge that it takes considerable pressure to start a dig in. That being said though by turning the scrapper on it side you direct the force away from the scrapper avoiding the dig in
🕶Fantastic video Tomislav. Thank you.
Thank you Soo much Steven
Thanks for the info! Do you have a video recommendation explaining the notch? I keep hoping to hear an explanation but never do, must have missed the episode talking about it.
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Yes I have, but in probably next video all explain it a bit.... Its basicly so you can scrape into a corner and to make details on the bottom of bowls or plates super fast
@@tomislavtomasicwoodturning Oh that's a great little addition! Thanks for explaining and really looking forward to seeing you use it in action :)
For most domestic timber 45% is a good angle in practice. I use 40% but the difference is negligible. The harder the wood the more acute.
Very interesting. Learning how to shape and sharpen tools properly is the key to turning. I use magnets to keep smaller tools handy on my lathes, set square/metal ruler/calipers I also keep different grades of honing card (like a metal bank card on each of my lathes so I can keep things sharp. doing it this way means the tools are always to hand.
That is true, great suggestion
Very helpful video. Thanks
Great video Tomislav, Thank you. One question why do you put the notch on the bevel ??
Thank you sir, its so I can shear scrape into corners and also to put quick details
Another great vidio thanks for your noledge and helping others. Do appreciate it alot
Great video really informative
One question; how many times can you pull a burr before going back to the grinder?😊
I usually pull 2 times even the second time its not as good as first.
Interesting video, I was expecting the same result as you.
I would love to know about your dust collection box behind the lathe, how the shape was developed.
Thank you Robert, here is video about my dust collector setup
ua-cam.com/video/SvB6ipyeVlY/v-deo.htmlsi=onPqlLneY-UrQoRM
When you shear scrape, are you concerned with keeping the angle less than 90 degrees to the workpiece?
I try to keep same position but tilt the scraper on edge
When you say shallower at 29:17? Are you referring to the 80° angle as being more shallower?
P.S.Never mind you answered my questions before the video ended.😂
Glad I answer it through video😀
Tomislov, what is the reason for the notch in the left corner? Thanks!
To shear scrape into corners and for quick detail work
What is the. Purpose of the notch that you put on the left side of the scraper?
For putting details real quick and to be able to shear scrape into corners
Tomislav how is progress going with the "refiner" and burnisher ? When can we buy then and what will the cost be. Brett from Australia Cheers
Hi, well it was supposed to be on sale this week however there are few delays ,biggest one with custom size boxes.... it will have to be a few more weeks unfortunately, but I guess anything good in life is worth waiting 😀.
And they will be available to ship to Australia 😀
Thanks for sharing this video. After watching it I plan to change the angle on my bowl scraper. Not sure what angle it is right now but I will make it closer to your 45 degrees.
Any idea when your Refiner will be available?
Thanks buddy
I should have final talk with Crown this week and website should be done soon as well so hopefully just a few days
@@tomislavtomasicwoodturning please let us know when you’re able to sell them. I know you’ve had some legal issues to work through but hopefully you can get them resolved soon
Como siempre buenas explicaciones y buenos videos Hoy reforme un raspador que tenia a 65 grados a 45 como me comentase el otro día y cambio mucho la terminación en el cuenco que realicé Mañana modifico otro que tengo de hss
Glad to hear that, thank you for watching
I take it from your videos that you do not use double bevel (like a skew but less angle) negative rake scrapers. Can you please tell if you do or do not use or like and why?
Thanks so much for the video!
He does own negative rake scrapers, but I don't remember him using one.
I do have one or two but really use them for video only, Only one I use a bit more is Steve Jones inspired for making square crossgrain nice and round.
I just prefer standard scrapers as for me I get better finish and burr last lot longer
I’m away from my shop for the week so I am unable to answer my own question by experimenting so I will ask. When you tip the scraper up on edge for shear scraping, it doesn’t seem like the tool tips up very far. Looks like you’re tipping it to about 30 degrees. Would 45 degrees be better? Is there a point where the scraper tips too far on its edge?
It can perhaps catch easier the more you tilt as it might be easier to cought unsuported edge.
I don't bother how much I tilt, the more tilt in theory cleaner surface, but for me atleast its more owcward to use like that
@@tomislavtomasicwoodturning Understood, and thank you for replying. I do not have any curved standard scrapers but I will experiment with shear cutting angles with my negative rake scrapers.
Hi Tomi - really great video this time and I learnt a lot from it. QUESTION - I noticed that you have started putting a little 'cut-out' in the left corner of your flat gouges. I think you said you got the idea from Richard - WHY? Why do you put the little cut out in the corner please.
By the way, I didn't mean that you look like a bear - I only meant that your ARMS look like a bear with them covered in brown-ish shavings! All you have to do is rub your arms with your hand now and again and most of the shavings will be gone.
Keep up the great work and videos. Phil (from South West England)
Ho Phil,no worries, I can take a Joke on my part👍
That notch I'll show in next turning video, but its basicly to be able to shear scrape into corners and also to put details on the bottom of the bowls or plates super fast
Thanks Super Man
What is the main purpose of the notch?
+1 Would also like to know!
Its so I can shear scrape into corners and also to put details on the bottom of the bowls and plates super fast
I'm just curious, what the notch is for
To be able to shear scrape into corners and also to put fast details on the bottom of the plates or bowls
@tomislavtomasicwoodturning thank you. I'm also curious, do you ship you signature tools to the USA
@@hairy180 I will once they are available, hopefully really really soon
Made me first mistake today, it was quite the "whoopsy" 😂😂😂 hollowing a Ray Key style capsule box, with tools I made myself...... With probably too short a handle 😐😂 was leaning over to watch inside, too much over the rest and handle too short, plus all the edge got into the wood....... BANG!!! Catch, the tool handle lifted, and because I'm stupid I had me head over the tool tryna watch inside, caught the handle of the tool in the jaw 🤦😂😂 30 seconds to settle myself, and i was back on the horse, completing the hollowing. I did have to go quite deep tho to remove the tearing, about 10mm deeper than expected, it tore out a lot of end grain.
I learned more respect for scrapers today, also about handle length and to not have me head over the tool 😂😂
The scraper I was using; i originally made it as a beading and parting tool...... Short handle for spindle work. I converted it into a scraper to do the hollowing work, but yeah..... Handle too short for that job. Sometimes we learn best from our own mistakes 😂
Ouch, glad you are ok, yes we have all been there, what I find is if you put handle under your elbow and your top half weight is on the tool its much less likely or it won't atleast punch you, it can however make a loud rip sound that bleads the ears 😅
@@tomislavtomasicwoodturning I know from watching you and Richard that it should be tucked under my arm, I don't know why I didn't do that. Also, maybe when I lowered me head to look inside, I might have also dropped the handle as I moved my head down, not sure.
It wasn't sore really, more of a fright than anything....... Learning the hard way can often be the best way to learn, coz I know I'm not gonna do that again 😂😂
I don't really understand why you would remove the burr. Surely by doing that, you end up where you're actually scraping (in a bad way) instead of cutting? I appreciate that a burr makes it more grabby, but surely its just a case of keeping a very small burr so you can still cut? In my experience, if I remove the burr, it just feels like you're trying to cut with a very blunt tool
I remove it to put new one
Большинство тех, кому это нужно и интересно, не понимают по английски! Пожалуйста, больше показывайте и меньше рассказывайте. 🤔
Most of my viewers are from English speaking countries, so Not sure I follow you