Cool 12 Volt Refrigerator! Bodega TWW55 Refrigerator/Freezer Review
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- Опубліковано 28 сер 2024
- Need a little more refrigerator space? Want to be able to bring along ice cream? How about a true refrigerator with a dedicated freezer? Here's a nice unit from Bodega that can serve as all refrigerator, all freezer or a combination of both and the price is affordable.
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I just spent a few hours researching what to buy for my first trailer-fridge & decided on this one - thanks for the fun & in-depth review.
I love your channel. Y'all are great folks.
Thank you!
Excellent review.
The reversible lid and the extendable handle are a big plus in my mind.
Nice fridge and i am impressed with the fact it has wheels and enjoyed the thorough review.
That’s a really nice one! And you do a great job on these review videos.👍🏻🇺🇸
Thanks 👍
If I had a regular RV fridge break down I would replace it with two compressor fridges like this. Build drawer slides and stack them in the same place as the big RV fridge was. One would be a fridge, the other a freezer.
Handy for the coming power shortages with the direct solar panel install. It seems going "off grid" is getting easier every month.
Exactly what I would d.
Cool. Love the Bluetooth settings! Beautiful sunset at the end!!
Happy 4th. to you and Lynda Rick from Jim in Canada; what an awesome unit this review is, thank you. It was nice of you to think about our borders reopening, am looking forward to when I can travel south again. See you soon hopefully. Best wishes to you both; Jim.
This border closing is a pain!
Still now sure on what I need. Your reviews are helpful.
Lorrie, if it's just you or you and one other person, then this refrigerator might be too big for your needs. It's too big for Linda and I but if you want both a refrigerator AND a freezer of decent proportions then it would be good. We only use a refrigerator and stop for ice cream when we get the urge.
Its just me and my husband.
What a nice addition to help make camping even more convenient & enjoyable! Digging through ice to try to find what you need gets old; so this would definitely be a big plus. Thank you for the great review to help us understand it more.
Really nice review. That background is so beautiful!
Just discovered you. Love your sense of humor and laid back chill approach to reviewing. Look forward to your future content.
_Ice cream for who? Who are we kidding it’s not for the kids, it’s for us! I’ll share, but it’s for us! : )_
Great review. We just got back from Montana and my Rockpals 500 and my Alpicool t55 worked great. Plus we ran out of power one night and the Alpicool fridge freezer stayed cool and frozen all night. Thanks for the great review. And your help.
Thanks for watching Debbie. No way I would ever go back to an ice chest!
The link to the ice box seems to be missing
It's foxed now Ron, thank you.
Great review thanks
great channel to learn about rv lifestyle
Like Stanley would always say here’s another fine mess you’ve gotten us into ollie
Very nice review! This 12v fridge looks to be awesome for even an extended weekend away. Trying to keep your food fresh in a regular cooler is such a chore-very nice!
We'll never go back to ice!
Great review as always Rick. Your detailed reviews and understated humor is always fun to watch..
I bought a Bodega 45L like that a few months ago and find everything you say to be spot on. It's really quiet, hardly know when it's running. 30 watts for a dual refrigerator like you said, my GoalZero 1000 lithium will run it for several days. Glad I bought it back then, price is up near 30% since then.
Glad to hear it's working out good Eugene.
Ok it's a yr since you posted anyway i been going thru reviews and pricing a a hugh bodega is less $ than smaller ones a yr ago. Might actually complete my wosh list this year! 😳😂
Excellent review as always. It has some nice features such as the extending handle and the cutting board. That direct solar input is something pretty unique as well
Another Great Review Rick. Good Show. (ya wanna open an Ice-Cream Vending Truck in the Desert???) The Problem is, You & Linda will have to consume All the Goodies as Nobody could find you. HA🥳🍦🍧🍨 Have a Good 4th. God Bless.🎆🇺🇸👏👏👏 p.s. it's getting Smokin-Hot the last week. Yikes--!!!
There’s an app to find them and those novelty treats.
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It's a little toasty here too but it won't last for long.
My friend that is a really good refrigerator. Beware of your ice cream, some of your top brands is not ice cream. When some of your ice cream can sit in a bowl outside all day and does not melt, that’s not real ice cream you are eating. Test them out before eating. Take care
Truth
You're so right about that! We're very particular about our ice cream and avoid all the guar gum, carrageenan, modified food starch and other things that stick to the back of your tongue.
Nice review, seems like more of a refrigerator/freezer than some others are.
That's true, not many have two separate cooling coils.
Has some great features I haven’t seen before. Dual compressors, reversible lid, solar hook up. If it lasts it will def. find a market.
Hello Renee, it only has a single compressor, but two separate cooling coils, like your refrigerator at home.
Bodega, thats a new one on me?
In Taiwan these are re-branded as Sansui 35 litre, TAW 35 litre, TWW 35 litre, Alpicool 35 litre to name but a few. They are all identical in appearance and also available in an awesome looking sand colour. Models supplied here are available with or without wheels.
Here they also have conveniently placed bottle openers fixed to the side BUT the interior baskets are supplied at extra cost which is a con!
Most folks purchase these units with the LG compressors as these have proven to be better units over others.
Thanks for sharing that, Terry. I'm not sure, but I think that Alpicool might be the parent company.
@@gonagain it's certainly a difficult one to be honest.....not sure why companies allow rebranding with very little enhancements to the actual rebranded product.
I've heard terrible reports about those LG compressors used in some of these units but trust me they are 100 times better than the OEMs that are originally fitted as standard.
There's a German brand compressor too yet this is never a choice here in S.E.Asia by Taiwan buyers as they are apparently noisy in operation and longevity isn't good blah blah.
Incidentally those LG compressors in these small fridge freezers have a 3yr warranty here in Taiwan which is really good in my opinion and at 45db when working I wouldn't say it's noisy.
The current range for 2022 with these rebranded fridge freezers hasn't changed much from previous years apart from a new body colour of "Sand" is now available which looks really smart over the traditional black.
Moving on to the detachable lithium 15600mAh rechargeable battery packs that you can purchase separately, these are very overpriced considering what they are BUT they're a must have if you want to run the unit on its own steam so to speak. The solar panel packs you can purchase are also slightly overpriced for what they are BUT a must have for serious camping enthusiasts.
The Jackery solar panel package is popular here in Taiwan but most will purchase the home country built panels etc etc as they are cheaper to purchase for sure.
I have heard the fridge freezer will run up to 3 - 5hrs from a single battery pack, probably possible if the unit is in ECO mode. Some people might disagree with this but at the end of the day it's always going to be down to how you use your unit and the conditions it's working in.
This unit is going in the trunk of my car but not as a permanent fixture. I want to be able to cool drinks while on the move and the like while we're away on a trip and having the ability to make icecubes, store ice cream etc etc is an awesome bonus.
Lastly I like the capabilities of the app, the USB charger port AND that added nice touch of a bottle opener on the top of the side panel.
Hello Rick and Linda! I really like your channel, it's very informative and you do an excelent review of the products that you review! Thank You!
I'm unable to find the link for the refrigerator ☹ it must have dropped off from the description. Take care! 🤙
Thank you Ron for pointing it out, I went in and corrected that.
@@gonagain Thank you Rick & Linda! Hope you two are safe and cooling down! 🤙🤙
@@gonagain Nuts & bolts...they are SOLD OUT. ☹☹
Thank you so much this would be a great early Xmas present for my parents.
That refrigerator is still going strong and is a favorite!
Your links not working brotha
Thanks Joe, got it fixed now.
Just ordered my bodega tww55! Thanks!
Thank you, Mark! We use ours all the time.
@@gonagain I’m also sikaflexing my solar as well ! Thanks a lot! My bluetti ac300 had bad fan on brand new unit so I’m returning and replacing. Trying to get my 7x16 load runner converted lol
In my home, where I want long term storage for frozen food, I set up he freezer at -4. In my rig, I do not need long
term storage. I set my freezer at 20 degrees. The ice cream stays frozen, but is still scoopable. Chicken breasts and steak stay frozen and it takes much less power.
Thanks Gail!
Boy I think I like this one..thanks again for your review your opinion matters.
Hello Teresa, it has a good compressor in it. It may be temporarily out of stock, but they'll have it back soon.
Nice review and nice fridge!
I think these things are all made in the same factory in China. They just put a different brand name on them depending on which company puts the order in. They do seem to be well made though and seem to work well.
What we need to do is get a group of people together and order a bunch from Alibaba/Aliexpress and all pitch in and get one. They are a great price off there if you can get a bunch shipped over. The shipping is what bumps the price up.
Good to know. I like your videos learn a lot. I want to build out a 7 by 14 to live in full time. I am from Greenville NC..eastern no. In the winter time it gets down in the teens at night. How much insulation do I need in ceiling walls & floor. Reply.😎👍
Hello James. In a trailer that size it isn't going to take a lot to heat it and the main thing you'll be concerned with is handling the condensation build-up. If it were me, I'd put in two inches of rigid foam, including the floor. You can also put one inch in the doors. But make sure you tape ALL the seams so no moisture can get behind the insulation to the inside of the trailer skin. Watch this video: ua-cam.com/video/o5zf-7-q4sQ/v-deo.html
@@gonagain Thanks.😎👍
Nice video. You do great reviews. How about tie downs? Can the handle be used? How about cleaning? Is the inside smooth? Compressor area ?
Hello Miles. You can definitely use the handles to tie it down and the inside is smooth for cleaning. The compressor is going to be either an LG or a German design (as described by the manufacturer).
Solor connection only useful when battery oiption is installed.
I think i like it.
Happy trails.
Have a great Independence day
Same to you!
Good stuff,,, You & Linda happy 4th,,,!
Thank you John, same to you!
Boomer reviews are the best.
Thanks Carly!
Like the wheels and long handle. Can Linda pick up and load and unload this refrigerator when loaded? (I love ice too!)
She's small and needs help to lift it when empty (it's about 47lbs.) because of it's bulk. One thing that we do is to lift out the baskets full of food before lifting it.
@@gonagain lifting baskets out first is a good idea. I have a little 12-volt ice chest for the car and will try to find a basket that fits. Or maybe I need to start lifting weights! 😂
The solar doesn't work without the built in battery. The battery is an option and it is still available for sale. A better option than a power station, if you just want to run the cooler off grid, would be a 12.8 volt LiFePO4 battery at 100 AH. That would just require an inexpensive cig socket with battery clips and, because it wouldn't require the down conversion to 12 VDC or up conversion to 120 VAC, it would be more efficient than a power station/solar generator. The Dr. Prepare brand battery even comes with several different USB sockets, a cig socket, a battery level indicator ..and a 100 watt MPPT solar charge controller built right in. 1280 watt hours of straight 12 volts for $399 and a solar charger is pretty sweet in my book. It's how I power my Newair Fridge Freezer, which is nearly identical to this one.
Sounds good for that purpose. The battery wasn't available at the time I made the video and thst particular TW55 wasn't wired for one.
Link not working
It's fixed now.
@@gonagain Awesome thank you
Always good reviews...
Missing link for Bodega refrigerator
Fixed it, thanks!
The TWW55 are pre order only.. i pre ordered anyways.. Thanks for the review
It's a pretty good fridge, we like ours.
@@gonagain also used your discount code. Saved me few bucks vs Amazon.. again Thank you
Kewl and cool. Thanks again.
I like this unit it is a higher price but you get what you pay for
Great info
Nicely done
Thanks!
Thanks so much for making this informative video. I recently purchased the two door model 59 qt but haven't used it yet. I do have one question for you. Have you by chance had any experience with it getting caught in the rain while being used? Reason I ask is I am planning a camping trip in a couple of days. The cooler will be hauled in the back of my truck, which has to cover and we are looking at a 40% chance of rain the day we leave. I know the manual says do not expose to water or submerge in water. Dont know why anyone would submerge a 500.00 cooler in water but whatever.... I do plan to place a tarp over everything in the bed of my truck and try and leave some room around the cooler for ventilation but just wondered if anyone could offer any info on if they get stand a little water without harm or not. Thanks in advance.
If you cover it from the rain and give the compressor room to breathe, it should be fine. I wouldn't want it to get wet.
Looks nice. New trailer rims ?
And water hanging from the side of the pack mule?
Double check link to check price? Click here seems to not be active for me.
Yep!
@@gonagain Looks like bigger tires for more clearance. But, did you balance the load on the mule?
@@gonagain look awesome
The solar input I would assume would only work if it had the lithium battery as well. I can't imagine it's gonna run directly off a solar panel itself.
Right.
Pretty cool! ( pun intended ) LOL
Nice video Rick and Linda. Hope you're having a great 4th of July.
JT & Ole What's Her Name...... ?
You can call her the "Boss"!
I like your reviews. Which one do you use the most?
I have the ICECO at our cabin, this particular Bodega is currently keeping food and drinks cold in our guest room and the Setpower is in my cargo trailer (it's smaller and not as deep).
And does it run better on solar than electric wall socket in the house current? because the solar and battery stay the same power without changes in amperage and voltage like from electric companies that cause problems to the power units of the refrigerators and freezers?...
Hello Jimmy! It seems to me that it runs well either way. Plugged in to 110 it draws about 40 to 60 watts and on DC, according to the power supply readout, it draws 30 to 40 watts, but the maintained temperature remains the same.
it was explained to me by one that knew how the electric companies work the system, between day time and night time, pick and lower demand times, and why the equipment can get to little amperages at times which makes the the machines work hard and wear out faster because of surges and reductions in the power amperage needed to operate them, and was told of a system that can control it, but not legal in all states and did understand that idea at all! why not legal in all states?...
Don't use the handle extension to pull through the grass. It's purpose is to help you move it forward in your truck bed or car.
Thank you for letting us know. We only move it from our trailer to the house but that's good to know.
Wow! Some of these 12 volt fridge/freezers can be very expensive. These are priced a lot lower than I expected.
From what I've heard, these are lasting as long as the more expensive choices.
I’m looking at getting this cooler with the dual lid, not sure if that’s a better version. I’m thinking only open the side you need. Ever have any issues with the lid?
The lid is strong, no issues at all.
Great review so I buy this or BougeRV 12 Volt Refrigerator Portable Car Freezer 53 Quart Fridge 12V/24V DC 110~240 Volt AC? hmmm for a trip from Texas to Wyoming this June?
They are both good units, different sizes, of course. I would go with the Bodega because it has 2 different cooling systems, one for the fridge, one for the freezer. Linda likes to keep the entire unit as a fridge, using the one side for the condiments or things we reach for a lot.
@@gonagain thanks
After watching your video on this, I decided to purchase one. It works fine, but mine did not have the USB port and it has a bottle opener on the outside of it. I know this is 9 months later and they say that they discontinued the usb plug. Just wandering if anybody else has this issue or if they actually sold me a old unit?
The newer units come without the USB port.
Which would you recommend more, the Bodega or the Alpicool T50 that you previously reviewed?
One thing the Alpicool can do that this can't is have the compartment divider come out to make one big unit.
Both are made by the same company, they are just 2 different models. I like them both for different features.
How is the lid on the cooler holding up? I'm not really a fan of how the reversible hinge is part of the molded plastic lid. Seems like other designs that latch into place on both ends is a lot superior but also slightly more costly. Does the lid feel like it seals well?
The lid is holding up just fine, no problems and it also seals well. We really like this one.
Am I able to power this from a solar panel directly even if I don't have the built in battery installed🤔
Yes, on this Bodega you can.
Sold out --- go figure ;-)
Be sure and check back, that usually happens when I post a review but they'll get them back in stock soon.
Your not as bad as joe Bidum yet, that’s because I’m still going to watch your Gaffes.I looked in the drop-down and never saw Dee advertised refrigerator only the iceco refrigerator
Thanks Raymond, I fixed the link.
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I would like to hear information... About your battery bank... and solar energy and any other way you charge up your battery bank ??
Hello Jim and Rose! Please look in my list of past videos for information on how we keep our batteries charged. I'll also be making more videos on that subject in the future.
I received my tww55 today. Unfortunately after leaving it running and plugged in all day it doesn't seem to go below ambient temperature (77 degrees) despite setting the temperature to below freezing.
After you received it, did you let it sit for 24 hours before turning it on? In shipping they get turned every which way and the coolant needs time to settle back into the condenser. Try that and it should start working like it should.
@@gonagain wow, wasn't expecting a reply but I greatly appreciate it. I'll give that a try. Its been sitting upright for over 24 hours now. I'll try again once I get home today. Thanks again!
So you make ice! COOL!
What style/size/brand of ice cube cube tray? Ice tray on bottom or top of compartment?
Hours to frozen?
I agree with many others comments, you provide good simple straight honorable advice and reviews for the adventure/camping/nomadic lifestyle.
This allows us to be more prudent with our $.
THANKS!
Thanks! In this case we just brought a large bag of ice from home, but you wouldn't have any problem making trays of ice in this as long as you're not moving. It'll freeze as fast as your home freezer will. I would just carefully place them on top.
I got a great set of Crofton ice cube trays from Aldi. They are silicone and hold 15 pieces of ice each. I would freeze the cubes before traveling, so you have some ready to use when you arrive at camp. I have an Alpicool t50 and they fit perfectly on the top shelf of the freezer section.
What is the solar input connection called, what type of cable do I need for that 🤔
I tried every connector that I have and couldn't find one that fits. To run it from solar, I hook the solar panel to a power station and plug the 12v refrigerator cable into that. For your question, I suggest that you contact Bodega directly at: info@bodegacooler.com
@@gonagain Still waiting for a response from me but it hasn't been 24 hours yet since I emailed bodegacooler about the connection port type. I'm also noticing that 3 to 4 other manufactures make this refrigerator and the only difference is the color schemes, with that being said I checked out bougervs' version of this refrigerator and in their manual it shows 5521 solar charging port.. Let me know if you can confirm this if you'd like to try it out
What’s the App name? I know this video was 2 years ago and the App Bodega uses now is the “QZSmart” App. It’s okay, unfortunately even with the upgraded model, Bodega is way behind the power ball by only requiring 2.4ghz for Wi-Fi.
You can find it on Playstore under the name "BodegaCooler". Or Alpicool T Series might work.
I just bought a tww45 and I cannot get it to Bluetooth to my phone I read the instructions still no pairing
You should get in touch with Bodega. If you bought it from Amazon, go through Amazon; they will help you get in touch with Bodega.
That is the bluetti 120w solar panel? can be connected directly to the freeze solar panel input? tnx
That depends on the refrigerator, but most of them can be hooked up directly to a solar panel. Yes, that's the Bluetti 120watt panel that I showed in that video.
How is it holding up? I just got one & it worked for about one hour. I touched the lid & the lcd screen went black & will not turn back on. The USB charger & the interior light still work, but not the compressor & control panel. I checked the fuse it is good. I am waiting to hear back from the manufacturer. Have you had this issue or have any suggestions? Thanks
Mine has been in steady use since we got it and is working fine. Where did you buy it? If you bought it through Amazon, then that is who you contact if you have a problem with it. You'll get instant results that way. If you bought it directly from the company you should also get good results, but please let me know how it goes. Did you get any error codes before it shut off? Email me at: gonagain21@gmail.com
@@gonagain no error codes. It just went off. They did email me back and said they would send a replacement.
@@gonagain Just a follow up on my Bodega fridge freezer issue. They mailed me a replacement circuit board & emailed me a video on how to replace it. Replaced it today, fairly easy. So far so good.
I have a converted 6x12 Cargo trailer/camper. Made a raised bed in the 69"x 48" v nose & haul a 2019 Goldwing tour. Loving life!
hey rick in the past you mention noise levels, ? what is the noise level on this one,
This one was about 52 decibels and I figure it was the same as most others.
What portable power do you take with you ? I am looking for one for a
weekend up to a week camping. Things I may need power for.
Phone, laptop, fan, lights, maybe a refrigerator or 12volt TV.
Thanks for any info you can help with.
There are quite a few good products on the market when it comes to portable power stations and I've reviewed a few. The one I've been using most lately is the Bluetti EB70 for it's size and capacity. I don't care for really big units when we're traveling (although other folks might not mind) and would rather have two smaller units. The EB70 is in the middle and performs well. This is it through my Amazon Affiliates link:
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@@gonagain Thanks for the info. Safe travels.
@@gonagain Rick I just ordered an EB70 and was wondering how you charge it ?
I wanted to get panels mounted and not the portable from Bluetti. It sounds like that could be a challenge ?
Rich Solar 200 Watt ?
Question... You have an Iceco. If you spent your own cash. Which would you buy?
Iceco or Bodega?
I like the Iceco for the longer warranty but the Bodega has a high quality compressor and costs less.
@@gonagain well, I already have a Vl60 Dual that I'm now thinking of selling to get the Bodega. They had me at the app.
Having the app is nice and this Bodega TWW55 is doing fine. Sometimes we use a smaller refrigerator but this one is great when we need more space.
Seems to be in the mid price range for a 12 volt compressor refrigerator. I want a one year, three year, & a 5-10 year review. I look for the long term, buy once.
The other alternative is to buy the inexpensive ones and replace them every few years. The expensive ones are only lasting 3 to 5 years, same as the less expensive brands.
@@gonagain I have purchased two used 12 volt refrigerators. 1st is a 40 quart - a 30 year old norcold (made by Engel), 2nd is a 15 year old - 35 quart Engel.
It’s scary how little $ I was able to purchased 2nd hand.
I think the flashing light is probably just to show that it's running...kinda a 'piece of mind' thing🤔
It's the only refrigerator I've seen that had that particularly light. This is a nice fridge all around.
How is it holding up
I still have this one and it's holding up very well.
I have watched your videos on refrigerators bodega and alphacool
Which one do you like best
They're both made by Alpicool. I like this one because of the permanent divider between the two compartments, giving you absolute control over the individual settings. Also it was very efficient, especially when on refrigerator mode for both compartments. This one, the Bodega TWW55, has been in constant use here since we got it and it's great.
Will a cigarette lighter power this ?
Yes, it will and it will automatically turn off before drawing your battery down too far.
What happened to your alpicool.
I get many refrigerators to do reviews on that I pass on the older ones. The one in this video is actually made by Alpicool.
Is it then hackable by cell phones?...
I have no idea, but Bluetooth is Bluetooth I suppose.
@@gonagain seems today every thing is getting to be made hackable according to the news people and government...
I was talking about, if you put out a bowl of ice cream and it doesn’t melt, it just sits and looks just like it was when you sit it out, no change in it just a lot of clear liquid around it. That’s not ice cream. Real ice cream will go from scoops to like a bowl of milk. A few of the top brands want melt, I don’t know what it is, its sure not ice cream. I saw it on a UA-cam video. He had out a bowl of Ben and you know who and it set out all day and would not melt. I would not eat it. Take care
I just bought this T50 six weeks and twice have had 3 dashes come up on the refrigerator screen. Ambient temperature this time 61, ambient temperature last time 75. There is nothing on the troubleshooting guide or manual about how to fix. Worse. They literally have NO customer service. The only way to get in touch is by email, and they do not respond. I advise people not to buy from this company.
Hello Elizabeth, if you bought it through Amazon, then the best way to contact them is through Amazon. Even if you didn't, go to Amazon and look up a Bodega refrigerator, then click on Bodega store near the top of the listing. Once there, select "More" and choose "Contact Us". When you do that through Amazon you usually get smoke right away because Amazon is very particular about customer service.